Explain to me, how america is the Greatest.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

I hear of alot of talk about how this land which is called america is the greatest, and even tho i am not american, i have been living in this land long enough to see it is not the greatest. I would go far enough and say, there is not great land on this earth, and neither is there any holy lands. I do however believe that america is more stable then some of the lands in this world, but thats really about it.

All lands seems to be corrupt and out of place, so please, someone englighen me.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9285/yup1ch.jpg

[RedvsBlue]

Ok but first explain to me why U2K is the greatest!

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Ok but first explain to me why U2K is the greatest!

Because i am , in a way. You find out in before late 2007. But um lets get back to the thread alright.

[Kayden]

I don't think America is the best possible, but its probably one of the best around... Canada is great and all, but they speak french.

[doraemonkerpal]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums...90&page=1&pp=20

[alonzomourning23]

I don't think America is the best possible, but its probably one of the best around... Canada is great and all, but they speak french.

Well, immigrants seem to like canada, I even know a guy from zimbabwe, who lives in the u.s., who tells everyone to go to canada instead because they're treated better there. Though most canadians don't seem to like quebec or quebecois, and quebecois don't seem to like dealing with the rest of canada or english speakers. Basically, stay away from quebec and you stay away from french.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Well, immigrants seem to like canada, I even know a guy from zimbabwe, who lives in the u.s., who tells everyone to go to canada instead because they're treated better there. Though most canadians don't seem to like quebec or quebecois, and quebecois don't seem to like dealing with the rest of canada or english speakers. Basically, stay away from quebec and you stay away from french.

I put it like this, any place that has video games and grocery stores is cool in my opinion. But great, or greatest land? No, i dont believe so.

[PKRipp3r]

I hear of alot of talk about how this land which is called america is the greatest, and even tho i am not american, i have been living in this land long enough to see it is not the greatest. I would go far enough and say, there is not great land on this earth, and neither is there any holy lands. I do however believe that america is more stable then some of the lands in this world, but thats really about it.

All lands seems to be corrupt and out of place, so please, someone englighen me.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9285/yup1ch.jpg


are you on crack?

clearly the U.S.A. is the greatest empire to ever arise on planet Earth.

if it wasn't for Americans you wouldn't have TV, radio, light bulbs, coca-cola, submarines, artificial hearts (or open heart surgery), tractors, pencils, morse code, electron microscopes, pacemakers, cash registers, razors, ice machines, vulcanized rubber, short-hand, conditioner, telephones, locomotives, assembly lines, desktop computers OR the freaking internet plus about another 1,000,000 items that people use every day - not to mention all the American entertaiment that the world loves to pretend to look down on, while consuming it faster than Rush Limbaugh downing a bottle of hillbilly heroin.

america > you

fact

[PKRipp3r]

I put it like this, any place that has video games and grocery stores is cool in my opinion. But great, or greatest land? No, i dont believe so.

name a country or place that's greater

we're all waiting.....

[mykevermin]

So, then, where the fuck are you from u2k?

[alonzomourning23]

are you on crack?

clearly the U.S.A. is the greatest empire to ever arise on planet Earth.

if it wasn't for Americans you wouldn't have TV, radio, light bulbs, coca-cola, submarines, artificial hearts (or open heart surgery), tractors, pencils, morse code, electron microscopes, pacemakers, cash registers, razors, ice machines, vulcanized rubber, short-hand, conditioner, telephones, locomotives, assembly lines, desktop computers OR the freaking internet plus about another 1,000,000 items that people use every day - not to mention all the American entertaiment that the world loves to pretend to look down on, while consuming it faster than Rush Limbaugh downing a bottle of hillbilly heroin.

america > you

fact

Greatest empire depends on the definition of empire and what makes it greatest.

But placing the u.s. as the greatest country in the world is, like giving any country that position, is completely subjective and based on the criteria chosen and personal opinion.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

I think North Korea is the greatest place on Earth. Nowhere else has the juche idea worked out so well.

[PKRipp3r]

Greatest empire depends on the definition of empire and what makes it greatest.

But placing the u.s. as the greatest country in the world is, like giving any country that position, is completely subjective and based on the criteria chosen and personal opinion.

again... name any empire (of any sort) that is greater and give your reasons

the only one I can think of, off hand is the Playboy Empire. If 'Hef-istan' were a sovereign nation, I'd give it the title...

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1073437328187_2004/01/07/britney_hefner,0.jpg

in the real world though that's just one more reason why the U.S.A. owns every other nation.

we even invented the centerfold.

can't front on that

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

are you on crack?

clearly the U.S.A. is the greatest empire to ever arise on planet Earth.

if it wasn't for Americans you wouldn't have TV, radio, light bulbs, coca-cola, submarines, artificial hearts (or open heart surgery), tractors, pencils, morse code, electron microscopes, pacemakers, cash registers, razors, ice machines, vulcanized rubber, short-hand, conditioner, telephones, locomotives, assembly lines, desktop computers OR the freaking internet plus about another 1,000,000 items that people use every day - not to mention all the American entertaiment that the world loves to pretend to look down on, while consuming it faster than Rush Limbaugh downing a bottle of hillbilly heroin.



Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of
God abideth for ever

Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:

[Xevious]

I hear of alot of talk about how this land which is called america is the greatest, and even tho i am not american, i have been living in this land long enough to see it is not the greatest. I would go far enough and say, there is not great land on this earth, and neither is there any holy lands. I do however believe that america is more stable then some of the lands in this world, but thats really about it.

All lands seems to be corrupt and out of place, so please, someone englighen me.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9285/yup1ch.jpg

If the US is not the greatest then can you enlighten us as to which country do you think should be considered the greatest?

[PKRipp3r]

Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of
God abideth for ever

Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:





yeah that's pretty hilarious... i'd like to see you live on God when you're starving and your rent is due.

:|

newsflash, you live on Earth which is made of MATTER. everything is a 'material good' you mental midget. that's what 'empires' and 'nations' are made of, material fucking things.

if you have a problem with that I would invite you to go live with your maker in Heaven. i think the world would be a better place for it.

and as an aside, NO idea what the porn comment was about but I live in the porn capital of the U.S. so my guess is that probably 20-30 different porn movies are currently being filmed in the greater Southern CA area as we type this...

worldwide though... ? no clue.

i'm just happy that America was smart enough to invent modern Porn.

it's one of the backbones of the economy of Earth. without Pornography the world would collapse in on itself.

[Kayden]

Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of
God abideth for ever

Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:





Well then, I guess you wont mind if we seize your material possesions to keep you from posting on CAG. Or anywhere else for that matter.

Why is it that the people with the least to say shout the loudest?

[alonzomourning23]

again... name any empire (of any sort) that is greater and give your reasons

the only one I can think of, off hand is the Playboy Empire. If 'Hef-istan' were a sovereign nation, I'd give it the title...

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1073437328187_2004/01/07/britney_hefner,0.jpg

in the real world though that's just one more reason why the U.S.A. owns every other nation.

we even invented the centerfold.

can't front on that

Land controlled, relative military strength, different populations controlled and united (ie. keeping the roman empire intact takes more effort than keeping the u.s. intact) etc., there are many different ways to judge the greatest empire ever.

There are a lot of things that go into being the greatest country, form of government, ingenuity, education available, treatment of poor, freedom, wealth, treatment of minorities, cultural history, use of influence, use of military, equal opportunity etc. There is no way to possibly decide the greatest country. You can have an opinion on which you think is best, but there's no way to get a definitive answer. There's 4 clear cut things about america, it has made more major inventions than any other country since 1776 (population size, expansion and wealth plays a role here), it is the, overal, wealthiest nation on earth (then again, the condition of our poor is nothing to brag about), most high quality universities (which most people will never, and can never, get near), and it's the worlds strongest military. But, the level of importance given to specific strengths and weaknesses, and the decision of what a strength and weakness is (ie. someone may see our great wealth as a strength, others may see it as a weakness since we tend to view success and failure as entirely deserved, and therefore don't do much to help our poor compared to the resources we have), will result in many, many different opinions on greatest country.

Personally, I don't think there is a greatest country. I think there are greatest countries in particular areas, but no overal best country. Personally, there are many reasons that many countries can be considered the greatest country. Though I find that inventions, military, and playboy to be negligable reasons compared to social aspects, like the conditions of poor, social equality, access to opportunities and other similar issues. On the criteria you used, yes america probably would come out top overal, on the criteria I used, and the criteria normally used in deciding quality of life, it doesn't get near it. Honestly, as much as I find u2k to be bible thumping and close minded, he does have a point. You're basing greatness on things of material concern more than social wellbeing and happiness. Quite honestly, I really don't think I'd be any less happy or any less well off if I never had a microwave, but I know that, without quality health insurance, my father would never have recieved the level of care he did and would still be a hospitalized quadraplegic. I think that would have a much greater effect on my happiness and well being.

[Photomotoz]

I moved to America when I was 6 from Russia. After 2-3 years I moved to Canada then after 2 years there I moved to another part of the US. All in all I would say that the US is definatly not the best. It may be an economic power house but nothing else. The only thing america has better than any other country is money. THe great military we have is fro mthe money we have.

When I moved from Canada I realised how much nicer Canada was. People tended to be nicer and the streets were cleaner. It was a much more courteous place than the US. The US has never WOWed me. Infact I think the best countries out there are the European ones with laws that make sense and dont intrude on my rights.

Laws such as the Patriot Act anger me extremly. I despise it becuase it breaks all of my basic rights. And what I hate more is that people havent done crap about it. Sure poepl dont like it but are they doning anything about ot? It seems to me that the peoples feeling of democracy is slipping into a comfort area where we just become so used to things that we stop caring. I dont like where the state of this country is going and I hope it will change when its time for a re-election.

[alonzomourning23]

I moved to America when I was 6 from Russia. After 2-3 years I moved to Canada then after 2 years there I moved to another part of the US. All in all I would say that the US is definatly not the best. It may be an economic power house but nothing else. The only thing america has better than any other country is money. THe great military we have is fro mthe money we have.

When I moved from Canada I realised how much nicer Canada was. People tended to be nicer and the streets were cleaner. It was a much more courteous place than the US. The US has never WOWed me. Infact I think the best countries out there are the European ones with laws that make sense and dont intrude on my rights.

Laws such as the Patriot Act anger me extremly. I despise it becuase it breaks all of my basic rights. And what I hate more is that people havent done crap about it. Sure poepl dont like it but are they doning anything about ot? It seems to me that the peoples feeling of democracy is slipping into a comfort area where we just become so used to things that we stop caring. I dont like where the state of this country is going and I hope it will change when its time for a re-election.

Most immigrants seem to prefer canada over the u.s., usually for the reasons you mentioned, as well as better opportunities for immigrants (making upward mobility easier), and they're treated better. Then again, there are horror stories on both sides as well (ie. doctors not having their PHD recognized so they end up working at the falafel hut while having to start college from scratch again).

Thought this was interesting, horrible thing to say, but interesting:

You must understand the environment in Pakistan ... This has become a money-making concern. A lot of people say if you want to go abroad and get a visa for Canada or citizenship and be a millionaire, get yourself raped," the Post quoted Musharraf as saying.
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/09/16/musharraf.canada.reut/index.html

[zionoverfire]

Name a better country.

[Hex]

So, then, where the fuck are you from u2k?

He's from Russia, to quote his FileFront forum intro. Too bad he had to migrate to CAG, instead of staying and infecting FileFront. :|

[alonzomourning23]

Name a better country.

I'm not sure if you're talking to me or u2k. If its me, then better in what area?

[Sleepkyng]

What does better or greatest mean?

historically, I'm gonna go with China, Greece, Italy, Turkey or the Middle East

in terms of food, France, Italy, Thailand, and China.

in terms of hot chicks - Argentina, Czech Republic, Brazil, China (mostly Hong Kong)

in terms of geographically - the U.S.A, China, Russia, Canada

in terms of literature - Ireland, England, U.S.A, France (ok so i'm biased and western cetric)

in terms of soccer - Brazil, France, Germany, England

etc. etc. etc.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Well, as i mention there is not great land from my viewpoint. Because every nation / land seems to be corrupt or something wrong doing is going on in it. America is a nice place to lived and its a nice place overall, but greatest land? I wouldnt think so, because if havent notice, there is alot of bs going on. I think all lands are the same, some may be more violent and unstable then others, but all of them seems to be the same in the sense of everything is equal when it comes to the foundation of this world.

There is no peace on this earth, not yet anyway. So if there is no peace, there is no great land.

[zionoverfire]

I'm not sure if you're talking to me or u2k. If its me, then better in what area?

If I was talking to you I would have specified the area.;)

[zionoverfire]

There is no peace on this earth, not yet anyway. So if there is no peace, there is no great land.

To be the greatest you simply have to be the best of al the choices you don't have to be a Utopia, now try to think of a country on this planet that is better than the US and explain why.

[Sleepkyng]

Well, as i mention there is not great land from my viewpoint. Because every nation / land seems to be corrupt or something wrong doing is going on in it. America is a nice place to lived and its a nice place overall, but greatest land? I wouldnt think so, because if havent notice, there is alot of bs going on. I think all lands are the same, some may be more violent and unstable then others, but all of them seems to be the same in the sense of everything is equal when it comes to the foundation of this world.

There is no peace on this earth, not yet anyway. So if there is no peace, there is no great land.

I hope you're a 13 year old who is trying to get a rile out of people and not actually a person who would refer to countries as "lands"

[PittsburghAfterDark]

In soccer the USA has a higher current FIFA ranking than England or Germany.
Link (http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Sep-2005,00.html)

Last month we were 6th. How did we lose a ranking when we beat the Mexicans (Currently 5th) to qualify for the World Cup Labor Day weekend???

[PKRipp3r]

What does better or greatest mean?

historically, I'm gonna go with China, Greece, Italy, Turkey or the Middle East

in terms of food, France, Italy, Thailand, and China.

in terms of hot chicks - Argentina, Czech Republic, Brazil, China (mostly Hong Kong)

in terms of geographically - the U.S.A, China, Russia, Canada

in terms of literature - Ireland, England, U.S.A, France (ok so i'm biased and western cetric)

in terms of soccer - Brazil, France, Germany, England

etc. etc. etc.

thank you for at least providing some examples to support your opinions

[PKRipp3r]

Land controlled, relative military strength, different populations controlled and united (ie. keeping the roman empire intact takes more effort than keeping the u.s. intact) etc., there are many different ways to judge the greatest empire ever.

There are a lot of things that go into being the greatest country, form of government, ingenuity, education available, treatment of poor, freedom, wealth, treatment of minorities, cultural history, use of influence, use of military, equal opportunity etc. There is no way to possibly decide the greatest country. You can have an opinion on which you think is best, but there's no way to get a definitive answer. There's 4 clear cut things about america, it has made more major inventions than any other country since 1776 (population size, expansion and wealth plays a role here), it is the, overal, wealthiest nation on earth (then again, the condition of our poor is nothing to brag about), most high quality universities (which most people will never, and can never, get near), and it's the worlds strongest military. But, the level of importance given to specific strengths and weaknesses, and the decision of what a strength and weakness is (ie. someone may see our great wealth as a strength, others may see it as a weakness since we tend to view success and failure as entirely deserved, and therefore don't do much to help our poor compared to the resources we have), will result in many, many different opinions on greatest country.

Personally, I don't think there is a greatest country. I think there are greatest countries in particular areas, but no overal best country. Personally, there are many reasons that many countries can be considered the greatest country. Though I find that inventions, military, and playboy to be negligable reasons compared to social aspects, like the conditions of poor, social equality, access to opportunities and other similar issues. On the criteria you used, yes america probably would come out top overal, on the criteria I used, and the criteria normally used in deciding quality of life, it doesn't get near it. Honestly, as much as I find u2k to be bible thumping and close minded, he does have a point. You're basing greatness on things of material concern more than social wellbeing and happiness. Quite honestly, I really don't think I'd be any less happy or any less well off if I never had a microwave, but I know that, without quality health insurance, my father would never have recieved the level of care he did and would still be a hospitalized quadraplegic. I think that would have a much greater effect on my happiness and well being.

100% incorrect.

i merely gave some examples of life necessities that have been brought to you courtesy of America The Beautiful.

that wasn't a complete list.

:|

regarding quality of life issues... you're contradicting yourself there just a tad as many material goods relate directly to overall quality of life.

however if you just want to stick to intangibles like access to opportunity, where the poverty line falls, social equality, etc... then again - AMERICA OWNS EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HANDS DOWN.

If you disagree PLEASE TELL ME what country provides greater opportunity than America? Our 'access to opportunity' is so spectacular that people flood across our borders to take advantage of it. People below the poverty line in the U.S. have infinitely more opportunity to get out of that poverty than do people from the vast majority of other countries around the globe.

The same goes for civil rights, social issues and the rest. Of course you can pick out examples of things that don't work in the U.S. but our system is STILL head and shoulders above others'.

By far, the greatest way to see how much America kicks ass is to do what I did. Travel around the world to other countries and see what goes on with your own eyes. I love Eastern Europe, Asia and South/Central America... they are super awesome. But comparing those to the USofA is like comparing Goodfellas to The Godfather. One is really good... one is the BEST EVER.

Lastly.. the best thing of all about America. If you hate it and wish it would be wiped off the face of the planet, we'll still let you in!!! Burn the flag! Go nuts! It's all good b/c we're free to do and say what we please.

in short... please direct your attention toward the game and away from the player

[alonzomourning23]

100% incorrect.

i merely gave some examples of life necessities that have been brought to you courtesy of America The Beautiful.

that wasn't a complete list.

:neutral:

regarding quality of life issues... you're contradicting yourself there just a tad as many material goods relate directly to overall quality of life.

But most are just interesting iventions. Major ones, like airplanes, become common use throughout the world and the founder becomes insignificant, as all wealthy nations use them. You'd also be suprised how often it's a race, instead of a lone inventor. The airplane is one of many things were others were right behind, including europeans.


regarding quality of life issues... you're contradicting yourself there just a tad as many material goods relate directly to overall quality of life.

But many do not, and once the technology becomes available it no longer matters which country invented it, since the wealthy nations all take advantage of it. Basically, it doesn't matter who invented airplanes (which was basically a race anyway, since others, including europeans, were very close to it as well), all nations have them now and therefore does not effect living standards and quality of life.
however if you just want to stick to intangibles like access to opportunity, where the poverty line falls, social equality, etc... then again - AMERICA OWNS EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HANDS DOWN.

If you disagree PLEASE TELL ME what country provides greater opportunity than America? Our 'access to opportunity' is so spectacular that people flood across our borders to take advantage of it. People below the poverty line in the U.S. have infinitely more opportunity to get out of that poverty than do people from the vast majority of other countries around the globe.


People flood our borders because we're the rich country to the north. They flood our borders like north africans flood Italy and Spain, and like vietnamese, north koreans, cambodians etc. flood China.

In studies done Canada and europe (britain being an exception) have the most upward mobility, u.s. is on the bottom.


Despite the widespread belief that the U.S. remains a more mobile society than Europe, economists and sociologists say that in recent decades the typical child starting out in poverty in continental Europe (or in Canada) has had a better chance at prosperity. Miles Corak, an economist for Canada's national statistical agency who edited a recent Cambridge University Press book on mobility in Europe and North America, tweaked dozens of studies of the U.S., Canada and European countries to make them comparable. "The U.S. and Britain appear to stand out as the least mobile societies among the rich countries studied," he finds. France and Germany are somewhat more mobile than the U.S.; Canada and the Nordic countries are much more so.
Even the University of Chicago's Prof. Becker is changing his mind, reluctantly. "I do believe that it's still true if you come from a modest background it's easier to move ahead in the U.S. than elsewhere," he says, "but the more data we get that doesn't show that, the more we have to accept the conclusions."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05133/504149.stm

For immigrants, toronto was a different world than what I was used to. My university was loaded with immigrants, africans, middle easterners, and tons of asians. Toronto is the largest economy in canada, and 50% weren't even born in canada. Markham, a city on the north east boarder of toronto, is majority asian (mostly chinese), and has mega asian malls, large houses and money. In toronto, if you go to chinatown its mostly recent vietnamese immigrants. The children of chinese immigrants made money and moved north. I know a guy from zimbabwe, now living near boston, who is only here to go to Boston University. He's told everyone he knows to go to canada instead, since they treat immigrants better and its easier to get ahead.

In america, if you need medication or become hospitalized and are one of the 15% who don't have insurance your screwed (compared to 0% in other countries). If you have very poor health insurance your screwed. My fathers health insurance sucked, and wouldn't have covered much of what he needed when he was hospitalized (disease that made him a quadraplegic unless treated), luckily my mother has excellent family insurance (from a union) that covered it. In canada, or much of western europe, we wouldn't have had an issue.

The same goes for civil rights, social issues and the rest. Of course you can pick out examples of things that don't work in the U.S. but our system is STILL head and shoulders above others'.

By far, the greatest way to see how much America kicks ass is to do what I did. Travel around the world to other countries and see what goes on with your own eyes. I love Eastern Europe, Asia and South/Central America... they are super awesome. But comparing those to the USofA is like comparing Goodfellas to The Godfather. One is really good... one is the BEST EVER.

Lastly.. the best thing of all about America. If you hate it and wish it would be wiped off the face of the planet, we'll still let you in!!! Burn the flag! Go nuts! It's all good b/c we're free to do and say what we please.


Funny, you can walk up to the front door of the parliament building in Ottawa (the main government building) and scream about how much Paul Martin sucks and you hope he dies and nothing would happen (assuming you don't threaten to kill him yourself of course). You can burn a flag anywhere in canada and, as long as your not breaking any fire laws, no ones gonna do a thing to you. The same hold true for most of western europe.

In canada (and the netherlands and one other european country I believe) gays can get married throughout the country. In america, only one out of 50 states do people have that right. In most of the western world, no ones threatening to take away abortion rights. In canada they even allow religions to set up voluntarily religious courts for those who wish to use them (there are catholic and jewish ones, islamic ones are in the works). Also, most western countries also have the sense to publicly teach birth control in schools, and have results to show for it.

Most countries populations are also not afraid to pay taxes when they think its necessary. A poll of canadians showed that most would support increasing taxes if it improved health insurance, americans run screaming at suggestions like that.

And, militarily, most countries give more, per capita, for aid, and canada is the all time top peace keeping nation, in number of peacekeepers, number of countries deployed to etc.

I find it odd though, you compared the u.s. to south america, eastern europe and asia, but missed the obvious and most prominent comparison, the u.s. with canada and western europe.

[alonzomourning23]

More on upward mobility:

The second reason is that America's engines of upward mobility are no longer working as effectively as they once were. The most obvious example lies in the education system. Upward mobility is increasingly determined by education. The income of people with just a high-school diploma was flat in 1975-99, whereas that of people with a bachelor's degree rose substantially, and that of people with advanced degrees rocketed.

The education system is increasingly stratified by social class, and poor children have a double disadvantage. They attend schools with fewer resources than those of their richer contemporaries (school finances are largely determined by local property taxes). And they have to deal with the legacy of what Michael Barone, a conservative commentator, has labelled “soft America”. Soft America is allergic to introducing accountability and measurement in education, particularly if it takes the form of merit pay for successful teachers or rewards for outstanding pupils. Dumbed-down schools are particularly harmful to poor children, who are unlikely to be able to compensate for them at home.

America's great universities are increasingly reinforcing rather than reducing these educational inequalities. Poorer students are at a huge disadvantage, both when they try to get in and, if they are successful, in their ability to make the most of what is on offer. This disadvantage is most marked in the elite colleges that hold the keys to the best jobs. Three-quarters of the students at the country's top 146 colleges come from the richest socio-economic fourth, compared with just 3% who come from the poorest fourth (the median family income at Harvard, for example, is $150,000). This means that, at an elite university, you are 25 times as likely to run into a rich student as a poor one.

One reason for this is government money. The main federal programme supporting poorer students is the Pell grant: 90% of such grants go to families with incomes below $41,000. But the federal government has been shifting resources from Pell grants to other forms of aid to higher education. Student loans are unrelated to family resources. Federal tax breaks for higher education benefit the rich. State subsidies for higher education benefit rich and poor alike. At the same time, colleges are increasingly using financial aid to attract talented students away from competitors rather than to help the poor.........

America's great companies are also becoming less successful agents of upward mobility. The years from 1880 to 1960 were a period of great corporate behemoths. These produced a new class of Americans—professional managers. They built elaborate internal hierarchies, and also accepted their responsibilities to both their workers and their local communities. But since the 1970s the pressure of competition has forced these behemoths to become much leaner—to reduce their layers, contract out some activities, and shift from full-time to part-time employees. It has became harder for people to start at the bottom and rise up the company hierarchy by dint of hard work and self-improvement. And it has also become harder for managers to keep their jobs in a single company.





http://www.economist.com/world/na/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3518560

[Photomotoz]

I belive that to get a true feeling of a country you must have lived else where for a considerate amount of time, long enough to make friends and get a feel for the culture. The reason that many consider America to be the greatest is either that they actaully belive it or just want to belive it but know that something is wrong.

One thing horrbiley wrong with America rigt now is how we are going back wards after findging solutions. When the Clinton administration set aside a great deal of land for preservation it was supposed be PRESERVED. And now Bush's adminstration ios reversing that to get oil. Now I understand that we need oil but do we need it thaty badly that we would destroy acres upon acres of living things just to get it instead of simply either paying a bit more or just finding something more effective and better.

All countries have problems but America has the most and keeps getting more and more. Other countries at some point also have something like this but they end up solving theirs while we have not. The majority of politicians want to and do shift the publics folcus from the issues which really matter(because violence in videogames is very, VERY important compared to large companies taking over small family buisness and creating a monopoly or peoples rights getting violated everyday).

America would be a great place to live if not for its flaws. I think people are still stuck back in the previous years when national debt wasnt so high and other countries seemed lesser in comaprison. I think that events such as 9/11 break the illusion for a while but then its back to normal within a year and people stop caring.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.

[mykevermin]

The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk.

:shock:

West Coast, you're on the air.

[Hex]

All countries have problems but America has the most

I'm not looking to get heavily entrentched in this debate, but America has hardly the biggest problems. Places like Honduras, Middle East, South American and Eastern European countries have it a lot harder than we do- When were we fighting for our lives in city streets, or repelling drug lords? Obviously, it could come to all that, but when you really think about it, America is one of the ewasiest places to live in. Hey, you could be working in an outsourced sweatshop in China, or something, then America sounds like a utopia.

The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.

Someone ban him, please. This is like Alucard, all over again.

[Kayden]

The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.

You are a FRUIT. I would like your ass to MEAT the LAND after being punted out an airplane.

So, if it wasn't in the bible, it doesn't exist? Damn those TVs, Berlin Walls, Dinosaurs, civil liberties, and showers... They're all imaginary!

Oh... Guess it would be hard to throw you from a plane seeing how they weren't in the bible.... :roll:

[elprincipe]

Everything you said is base on material things, thus:

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of
God abideth for ever

Thusx2, you missed the point to this thread, try again please.

hmmmm, i wonder how many porn movies is being made as i type this? :applause:





Yet that's the beauty of America: You don't have to base your life on material things if you don't want to. You can be as religious as you want to. All we ask is you leave others alone. You can be more religious than the Pope. Or you can divest yourself of material things more than monks. Or you can be a lustful greedy slob. Unless you have a penchant for ordering others around, I don't see your problem.

[elprincipe]

in terms of soccer - Brazil, France, Germany, England

Sleepy sleepy sleepy. Why are France on that list? Ridiculous. Brazil, Germany, no question. England, okay, due to the earlier history of the game this is more than fair. No Argentina, Italy? Uruguay have a far superior footballing pedigree compared with France! France should rightfully be placed in a second-tier category I would say, perhaps with the likes of Holland, USSR/Russia, maybe Spain, Portugal, perhaps Hungary.

[elprincipe]

In soccer the USA has a higher current FIFA ranking than England or Germany.
Link (http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Sep-2005,00.html)

Last month we were 6th. How did we lose a ranking when we beat the Mexicans (Currently 5th) to qualify for the World Cup Labor Day weekend???

PAD, the FIFA rankings are a joke. Everyone knows this. The USA are certainly not the 6th best team in the world and Mexico certainly are not the 5th best team. Nobody takes these seriously except the idiot commentators on ESPN like Rob Stone and Eric Wynalda. We're a strong team at this point and so are Mexico, but above Spain, Portugal, England, Italy, Germany? I don't think so. I think more accurate would be around 18th or 20th, very, very respectable and probably higher than most of the world rates us.

[alonzomourning23]

The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.

The bible doesn't mention australians, so I guess that means there's no such things as australians either.

I think you just crossed the boundry between bible thumper and idiot.

[Hex]

The bible doesn't mention australians, so I guess that means there's no such things as australians either.

I think you just crossed the boundry between bible thumper and idiot.

Oh, he established his idiocy a long while ago. :roll:

[elprincipe]

The correct word is Land, i dont recall seeing the word countries or country in the bible. Just like Fruit and Vegetables. The truth is, there is no such thing as vegetables, thats science talk. The reality is, there is only fruit, because from the bible viewpoint.

Everything that is not consider meat, is label as fruit. Over the time, man has change the correct definitions on them. There is fruit's and meats, thats it.

Funny, I don't see a lot of "thy", "thee" and "thou" in your posts.

[Photomotoz]

I'm not looking to get heavily entrentched in this debate, but America has hardly the biggest problems. Places like Honduras, Middle East, South American and Eastern European countries have it a lot harder than we do- When were we fighting for our lives in city streets, or repelling drug lords? Obviously, it could come to all that, but when you really think about it, America is one of the ewasiest places to live in. Hey, you could be working in an outsourced sweatshop in China, or something, then America sounds like a utopia.



Yep you're right, when I wrote that I completely forgot about those countries.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Dinosaurs,

Dinosaurs never existed, dont believe the hype.

[Mr. Anderson]

You have made the most useless threads. Ignore.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Really? Its better then most of the threads, where people is speaking down on bush, like he is the real problem or something.

[BigSpoonyBard]

Really? Its better then most of the threads, where people is speaking down on bush, like he is the real problem or something.

You're right, Bush isn't the real problem, it's that fucking Bible. :bomb:

[alonzomourning23]

Dinosaurs never existed, dont believe the hype.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, go read the bible. Knowledgable christians believe that the bible does mention dinosaurs, though not as dinosaurs:

Job 40: 15-24

15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel (http://www.apologeticspress.org/faq/r&r8612b.htm) of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron.
19 He [is] the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his
sword to approach .
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him [with] their shadow; the willows of the brook
compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, [and] hasteth not: he trusteth that he
can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: [his] nose pierceth through snares.

Daniel 14:22- 27

14:22. And there was a great dragon in that place, and the [u]Babylonians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02159b.htm) worshipped him.


14:23. And the king said to Daniel (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04620a.htm): Behold, thou canst not say now, that this is not a living god: adore (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01151a.htm) him, therefore.

14:24. And Daniel (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04620a.htm) said: I adore (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01151a.htm) the Lord (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608a.htm), my God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608a.htm): for he is the living God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608a.htm): but that is no living god.

14:25. But give me leave, O king, and I will kill this dragon without sword or club. And the king said, I give thee leave.

14:26. Then Daniel (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04620a.htm) took pitch, and fat, and hair, and boiled them together: and he made lumps, and put them into the dragon's mouth, and the dragon burst asunder. And he said: Behold him whom you worship.
14:27. And when the Babylonians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02159b.htm) had heard this, they took great indignation: and being gathered together against the king, they said: The king is become a Jew (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08399a.htm). He hath destroyed Bel, he hath killed the dragon, and he hath put the priests (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12406a.htm) to death.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, go read the bible. Knowledgable christians believe that the bible does mention dinosaurs, though not as dinosaurs:

Oh trust me, i am aware of this. Its kinda like how knowledgable christians like to celerbrate christmas, when its base on lies and unrighteousness right?

When was Jesus Christ born again?
Why is so hard for parents to tell thier children, that they was the ones who bought thier gifts for them?

:applause:

I have read the bible and these so called dinosaurs / huge creatures never existed. All of the animals that existed from the beginning of time, is still here in thier rightful form and none of them was separated

Most christians living today or most believers of GOD living today dont seem to be as focus as the ones living in the bible times. Why you think so many people who say they follow GOD and The Messiah, " Get mad at the governements for not protection them ? "

No need to answer, i know whats up. I am above science and scientist, so i have a pretty good understanding on what is going on in this life.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Job 40: 15-24

15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron.
19 He [is] the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his
sword to approach [unto him].
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him [with] their shadow; the willows of the brook
compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, [and] hasteth not: he trusteth that he
can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: [his] nose pierceth through snares.


Quote:
Daniel 14:22- 27

14:22. And there was a great dragon in that place, and the Babylonians worshipped him.


14:23. And the king said to Daniel: Behold, thou canst not say now, that this is not a living god: adore him, therefore.

14:24. And Daniel said: I adore the Lord, my God: for he is the living God: but that is no living god.

14:25. But give me leave, O king, and I will kill this dragon without sword or club. And the king said, I give thee leave.

14:26. Then Daniel took pitch, and fat, and hair, and boiled them together: and he made lumps, and put them into the dragon's mouth, and the dragon burst asunder. And he said: Behold him whom you worship.
14:27. And when the Babylonians had heard this, they took great indignation: and being gathered together against the king, they said: The king is become a Jew. He hath destroyed Bel, he hath killed the dragon, and he hath put the priests to death.
.................................................. ....

This has nothing to do with anything. Do you even know what a Dragon is, base from the bible?

[dcfox]

Oh trust me, i am aware of this. Its kinda like how knowledgable christians like to celerbrate christmas, when its base on lies and unrighteousness right?

When was Jesus Christ born again?
Why is so hard for parents to tell thier children, that they was the ones who bought thier gifts for them?

:applause:

I have read the bible and these so called dinosaurs / huge creatures never existed. All of the animals that existed from the beginning of time, is still here in thier rightful form and none of them was separated



No need to answer, i know whats up. I am above science and scientist, so i have a pretty good understanding on what is going on in this life.
You really can't be serious. :-s I'm at a complete loss of words.

[alonzomourning23]

This has nothing to do with anything. Do you even know what a Dragon is, base from the bible?

They are not always used to represent evil, if that's what you're suggesting.


Oh trust me, i am aware of this. Its kinda like how knowledgable christians like to celerbrate christmas, when its base on lies and unrighteousness right?

When was Jesus Christ born again?
Why is so hard for parents to tell thier children, that they was the ones who bought thier gifts for them?

:applause:


Parents give gifts to their kids as well as say "santa" did it. No one says jesus gave them to them. While christmas was invented to compete with pagan religions (which had many more festivals), and jesus was not born in december, jesus was born. That's what you are celebrating.

I have read the bible and these so called dinosaurs / huge creatures never existed. All of the animals that existed from the beginning of time, is still here in thier rightful form and none of them was separated

This is the most outright, idiotic statement you have made. We know animals are extinct, we know the dodo bird existed and now it doesn't. We know the tazmanian tiger existed, and now it doesn't, same with the red gazelle, the caribian monk seal, bali tiger, passenger pigeon and many others. There were many animals with not only widespread, everyday accounts, but with photgraphic and video accounts of their existence, even in zoos.


Most christians living today or most believers of GOD living today dont seem to be as focus as the ones living in the bible times. Why you think so many people who say they follow GOD and The Messiah, " Get mad at the governements for not protection them ? "

Because god gave people free will. God does not control every little aspect of earth, the bible states that. God has total domain, but he grants free will and people can do as they choose (this is often used to explain evil). One such statement by jesus, "Render to caesar the things that are caesars and to god the things that are gods", while directly referring to money, also gives the realization that there is an earthly world and heavenly world. It shows that many things are left to earthly rulers. While natural disasters, it can be argued, are gods doing, the response to such events are in the control of earthly rulers.

No need to answer, i know whats up. I am above science and scientist, so i am pretty good understanding on what is going on in this life.

You seem to think you're a prophet. You don't have good knowledge of the bible outside of what a preacher would tell you. You are arrogant, even repeatedly chearing your own statements. And you make ridiculous and absurd claims, such as every animal that ever existed still does, when we have video of animals (such as the tazmanian tiger) that no longer exist. We have videos of cats, siamese in particular, that look very different in the 1950's compared to a modern siamese cat. In the 1950's it was a robust, round cat, now it is a thin, emaciated looking cat.

[munch]

I read the first page of this thread, then the last. what the hell happened?

[RAMSTORIA]

balh blah blha usa, blha blahs bible blhba bla bha b god, blha blha blah

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

And you make ridiculous and absurd claims, such as every animal that ever existed still does, when we have video of animals (such as the tazmanian tiger) that no longer exist. We have videos of cats, siamese in particular, that look very different in the 1950's compared to a modern siamese cat. In the 1950's it was a robust, round cat, now it is a thin, emaciated looking cat.

Well i am very closed minded, therefore i dont pay attention to science and scientist. I think a large % of them are false teachers, just like darwin. So if scientist says some animals no longer exist, thats thier views, but i dont believe it. And neither do i have plans to go searching for information on it.

[alonzomourning23]

Well i am very closed minded, therefore i dont pay attention to science and scientist. I think a large % of them are false teachers, just like darwin. So if scientist says some animals no longer exist, thats thier views, but i dont believe it. And neither do i have plans to go searching for information on it.

So you believe dodo birds still exist?

Basically, what you said is "I'm an idiot". You shut yourself in your own little world and yell "lalalalalala" and hope the rest will go away. You claim to be so religious, but you knowledge of your religion itself seems lacking, and you do nothing to challenge your faith.

[Ledhed]

Wow. This kind of delusional thinking just fascinates me.

U2K, please please please arrange that, after your death, your brain be submitted to scientific study. I know you're, ahem, "above" it and all, but please, humor me just this once.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

I believe that birds in general exist. But i never heard of these so called dodo birds. ;) And just to point something out, i dont have a religion, i only have faith. There is a big difference between the two.

From what i can see, all of the animals that was place on Noah's day, is the same ones that still existed to this day.

[alonzomourning23]

You never heard of a dodo bird? You must have been home schooled.

[Ledhed]

i dont have a religion, i only have faith.

No, religion is just the organization and nomenclature of your faith. It's pretty much the same thing. You can have a BMW and a Ford, but they're both still cars, and they serve the same purpose. And, from the way you speak, you sound like you adhere to some form of Christianity.

You're also one of the most arrogant people I've ever seen to think that you're above proven scientific fact. I'm just reeling from that. You really need to stop with the pseudo-profoundness. It really doesn't look good on you.

Also, your little website is a joke. I saw it two days ago, and I'm still laughing.

[evanft]

Religion is for weak-minded fools who fear not being part of a group and who are too stupid to form their own ideas

[elprincipe]

Well i am very closed minded,

This is the most accurate statement in the entire thread.

[elprincipe]

Religion is for weak-minded fools who fear not being part of a group and who are too stupid to form their own ideas

Quite the blanket statement there, and also quite false for at least a large number of religious people I know. But I can see why you would think that from the idiotic/trolling posts from the "faith" guy in this thread.

[Kayden]

Wait.... So... do you believe dragons are real? They were talked about in the bible, so they must be real....
This was what a dodo looked like. Now thats not to be confused with a dildo, although, if you provide a picture of yourself, I'll be more than glad to illustrate the difference.
http://www.u.arizona.edu/%7Ebboyle/England03/NHM%20dodo.JPG

Anyways, back to the dinosaurs. Where did these giant bones come from? Are you saying scientists had nothing better to do one day than to burry hundreds of thousands of giant artificially created bones around the entire planet?

Also, if you were really 'not religious, just faithful' then you wouldn't cling so tight to what the bible says. The Bible is a Christian/Jewish book. Those are religions. If you simply had faith you would simply believe in God and have your own ideas on God/afterlife/etc.

Logic would only serve to indicate you're just posting like this to irritate people. I hope thats the case. Granted, being a prick isn't much better than being a fucking moron. However, atleast when you go to breed, (and sadly, your kind always manages to) your children shouldn't be crayon eatting, shit throughing smack tards... However, if you are being serious, I can only hope you never find a woman willing to put up with you long enough for you to penetrait her.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Well i actually believe religion has a different defintion to what people in these days make it out to be. Because the word religion is only mention in the whole bible 2 or 3 times from what i can remember. But this is not the right time or year or moment for me to discuss the issues surrounding that.

I just have faith in The King of Jews and GOD The Father, but i do not belong to a religious group. Its just me and my wife reading the bible, and we get our teachings from the bible, not by the preachers in the walls of the church. I'm not saying its bad to go to church, but we would rather just stay away.

The church Is not a building anyway, its a group of believers getting together as one , this could be anywhere, outside, in a room, at the mall, in the rain, dont matter.

[Kayden]

Just promiss me you wont procreate...

[dcfox]

I believe that birds in general exist. But i never heard of these so called dodo birds. ;) And just to point something out, i dont have a religion, i only have faith. There is a big difference between the two.

From what i can see, all of the animals that was place on Noah's day, is the same ones that still existed to this day.
I'm not exactly well versed on the bible, or any other religious document for that matter, but is there a complete list of the animals that were brought onto Noah's ark? If not, how can you be so sure on the validity of your statement?

And I can't believe you are married. Do the world a favor and never have any kids.

[Kayden]

Is anyone else afraid to go swimming? There should be a fuck load of evil fish and ducks out there....

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Anyways, back to the dinosaurs. Where did these giant bones come from? Are you saying scientists had nothing better to do one day than to burry hundreds of thousands of giant artificially created bones around the entire planet?

I am sorry , but i would rather not discuss it. I did mention that i am closed minded , so i dont listen to everything that i hear about. Its best to be closed minded, that way you can stay focus.

Also, if you were really 'not religious, just faithful' then you wouldn't cling so tight to what the bible says. The Bible is a Christian/Jewish book. Those are religions. If you simply had faith you would simply believe in God and have your own ideas on God/afterlife/etc.

Who says the bible is a christian jewish book? Who says the bible is only for chrisitians or jews? Do not be deceive on the outlook of this world - Mystery Ridah

Thats like saying, the commandments are only for moses, which is not true.


Logic would only serve to indicate you're just posting like this to irritate people. I hope thats the case. Granted, being a prick isn't much better than being a fucking moron. However, atleast when you go to breed, (and sadly, your kind always manages to) your children shouldn't be crayon eatting, shit throughing smack tards... However, if you are being serious, I can only hope you never find a woman willing to put up with you long enough for you to penetrait here.

Actually alot of people think i am a troll, but thats not true. Whatever i am saying, i believe in, and i'm just being myself.

[Kayden]

I am sorry , but i would rather not discuss it. I did mention that i am closed minded , so i dont listen to everything that i hear about. Its best to be closed minded, that way you can stay focus.


So.... what you're really saying is you have no clue what you're talking about and can in no way justify your claims and would rather we just gloss over the fact that you've got your head so far up your own ass that you can see your tongue in the back of your throat.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

So.... what you're really saying is you have no clue what you're talking about and can in no way justify your claims and would rather we just gloss over the fact that you've got your head so far up your own ass that you can see your tongue in the back of your throat.

I just told you, all of the animals that was located on noah's boat is the same ones that we see now. I mean, i just dont wanna get into a discussion about this and that, its not the right time or year or moment. Maybe a later date alright.

Cheers. :D

[Kayden]

I just told you, all of the animals that was located on noah's boat is the same ones that we see now. I mean, i just dont wanna get into a discussion about this and that, its not the right time or year or moment. Maybe a later date alright.

Cheers. :D

No now. Right now you have piqued my curiousity. In 10 minutes I wont give a damn about how assinine you are. Give me a list of every animal thats supposed to be alive right now.

[dcfox]

Not that expect you to provide any type of answer that won't defy logic, but why did you create this thread and ask people to, and I quote

, so please, someone englighen me.

but fail to listen to any type of reason and has repeatedly admitted to being close minded? Why do you quote this Mystery Ridah, who is most likely yourself, like gospel and yet ignore over a century's worth of scientific evidence?

[Kayden]

Not that expect you to provide any type of answer that won't defy logic, but why did you create this thread and ask people to, and I quote


but fail to listen to any type of reason and has repeatedly admitted to being close minded? Why do you quote this Mystery Ridah, who is most likely yourself, like gospel and yet ignore over a century's worth of scientific evidence?

But hes above science...


OOOOOO can we give him cancer? I wonder how quickly he'd welcome science then.... :-k

[dcfox]

But hes above science...


OOOOOO can we give him cancer? I wonder how quickly he'd welcome science then.... :-k
He says he's above science now, but little does he know that blow up doll he calls a wife was created by science :lol:

[Hex]

Just promiss me you wont procreate...

that blow up doll he calls a wife was created by science :lol:

The fact the he even found a human as delirious as he is astounding, much less the fact they got married. I'm going to be sick.

[mykevermin]

I just told you, all of the animals that was located on noah's boat is the same ones that we see now.

That reminds me, there is a national (and I'm not shitting you) creation museum close to my home that's opening next spring. I want to go there and show off my opposable thumbs.

[GuitarGuru]

I'm laughing at everyone of you that fell for this fucking tools shenanigans.

He is a known forum troll. Do a google search for U2K or Untouchable or Tha Greate$t. The fucker has been banned at more forums for bullshit like this.

Ignore him and move on.

http://www.google.com/search?q=U2K+Untouchable&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

Dude has more hits than a Snoop Dogg concert. Amazing.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Actually thats untouchable2k.

Peace. :)

[worx]

I like New Zeland myself but that just b/c I'm tired of living in New Orleans ;)
Seriously - USAs not perfect but look at it this way - most of us can read, write, and not worry about being arrested for saying things that probably should get us arrested - no, its not perfect but I'll take it over Zaire or North Korea any day

[doraemonkerpal]

if you read everything in the link that i posted on the first page, you guys would've realized that he should've been on your ignore list by now. 8-) i can stand PAD's ignorant views in politics, slidecage's nonsensical stories and pop311's ludicrous (yet funny) questions, but i cannot stand u2kthecraziest's rantings about bread, government or personal life! :bomb: none of his posts are funny or make any sense to me. :lol:

[Kayden]

Logic would only serve to indicate you're just posting like this to irritate people. I hope thats the case. Granted, being a prick isn't much better than being a fucking moron. However, atleast when you go to breed, (and sadly, your kind always manages to) your children shouldn't be crayon eatting, shit throughing smack tards... However, if you are being serious, I can only hope you never find a woman willing to put up with you long enough for you to penetrait her.

I smelled rat, I just like pushing buttons. 8-) :lol:

[mykevermin]

I'm laughing at everyone of you that fell for this fucking tools shenanigans.

He is a known forum troll. Do a google search for U2K or Untouchable or Tha Greate$t. The fucker has been banned at more forums for bullshit like this.

Ignore him and move on.

http://www.google.com/search?q=U2K+Untouchable&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

Dude has more hits than a Snoop Dogg concert. Amazing.

While I'm not certain that I feel the sting of your contented laughter at those of us who posted here, since it implies "if you were all over the internet forums, you'd know who he is," I don't feel too offended by not knowing who u2k was. Not at all, in fact. If he were on the front page of The Economist, perhaps, but gaming forums? Please.

Thanks for the heads up in any event. It's not as if he was proving himself a rational thinker deserving of any sort of interaction to begin with. Off the the card table with Scrubking et al.

[Hex]

I'm laughing at everyone of you that fell for this fucking tools shenanigans.

He is a known forum troll. Do a google search for U2K or Untouchable or Tha Greate$t. The fucker has been banned at more forums for bullshit like this.

Ignore him and move on.

http://www.google.com/search?q=U2K+Untouchable&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

Dude has more hits than a Snoop Dogg concert. Amazing.

Thanks for the info, but why the hell would I do a google search for his name in the first place? It's much funner to cavetch and insult the guy.

[Apossum]

I hear of alot of talk about how this land which is called america is the greatest, and even tho i am not american, i have been living in this land long enough to see it is not the greatest. I would go far enough and say, there is not great land on this earth, and neither is there any holy lands. I do however believe that america is more stable then some of the lands in this world, but thats really about it.

All lands seems to be corrupt and out of place, so please, someone englighen me.



where else in the world can you get a fried twinkie?

[GuitarGuru]

The dude is straight up wack. I mean, if you want to spend time responding to his douchebaggedness, by all means, carry on. It is just a waste of time as you will get more response talking to a wall.

Believe it.

[evanft]

The dude is straight up wack. I mean, if you want to spend time responding to his douchebaggedness, by all means, carry on. It is just a waste of time as you will get more response talking to a wall.

Believe it.

Haha you said wack.

[Photomotoz]

Ewwww I feel dirty for posting in this thread........

[camoor]

Not that expect you to provide any type of answer that won't defy logic, but why did you create this thread and ask people to...but fail to listen to any type of reason and has repeatedly admitted to being close minded? Why do you quote this Mystery Ridah, who is most likely yourself, like gospel and yet ignore over a century's worth of scientific evidence?

Yup, he's now quoting himself:

Hello, my alias is mystery ridah , but yall can call me u2k which is my real alias, 23 / male...
http://zh.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30061&view=next

Apparently he can speak fluently as well, so his halting English is just a gag.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Yea but xfire sucks, i just posted on that forum to see can i add my own games on the server, but you cant, so i left.

[Abdullah2]

I dont know if this is in the bible but the quran says the noone enters paradise who thinks they are better than anyone else in any way, so when you say that you are 'above' scientists without even knowing what scientists are all about, and when you cling so much to the bible without trying to verify its authenticity, you are basing your decision on ignorance without knowledge and that is never a good thing, unless you think you have witnessed some unexplainable miracle that can only be from highest power, please tell me if you have

what do you mean when you say 'xfire sucks'?

-To draw (liquid) into the mouth by movements of the tongue and lips that create suction.

-To draw in by establishing a partial vacuum: a cleaning device that sucks up dirt.
-To draw in by or as if by a current in a fluid.
-To draw or pull as if by suction: teenagers who are sucked into a life of crime.
-To draw nourishment through or from: suck a baby bottle.
-To hold, moisten, or maneuver (a sweet, for example) in the mouth.


or is there an extra meaning in the bible that i haven't heard of?

does the bible encourage using that kind of language?

[PKRipp3r]

I dont know if this is in the bible but the quran says the noone enters paradise who thinks they are better than anyone else in any way, so when you say that you are 'above' scientists without even knowing what scientists are all about, and when you cling so much to the bible without trying to verify its authenticity, you are basing your decision on ignorance without knowledge and that is never a good thing, unless you think you have witnessed some unexplainable miracle that can only be from highest power, please tell me if you have

what do you mean when you say 'xfire sucks'?

-To draw (liquid) into the mouth by movements of the tongue and lips that create suction.

-To draw in by establishing a partial vacuum: a cleaning device that sucks up dirt.
-To draw in by or as if by a current in a fluid.
-To draw or pull as if by suction: teenagers who are sucked into a life of crime.
-To draw nourishment through or from: suck a baby bottle.
-To hold, moisten, or maneuver (a sweet, for example) in the mouth.


or is there an extra meaning in the bible that i haven't heard of?

does the bible encourage using that kind of language?

it's a good point...

reminds me of the so-called 'christians' who, upon learning of the death of a person who they deem 'bad' or 'evil' respond immediately with "Well, he's burning in hell right now!"

:|

more than any other religion I have personal experience with, American Christians truly feel that they know the mind and will of God better than anyone else.

see: President Bush

btw, the pat response from Christians on this is 'I dont NEED to know the facts.. I have FAITH. I put my trust in God and let him figure it out.' once you've had someone look at you with a straight face and say 'God put dinosaur fossils in the ground to test my faith' you realize that there is no bridging the gap on these issues....

clinging to what the Bible says w/out verifying it's authenticity is the very definition of the Christian Religion.

[Abdullah2]

sorry i meant clinging to physical bible of today, which has been through generations of translation and interpretation processes , and not looking at history and other knowledges to verify where and how has the original meaning been changed if it has, or if it is possible

im having alittle trouble understanding if you are trying to say that Bush knows the mind and will of God. If you say that because we are a successful economical country, remember how 'successful' the pharohs seemed to be at the time, did that mean that they exhibited the will of God?

im also wondering where you got the idea that God has a 'mind' as we know the word


..time for me to get out of houston already, sorry if i cant reply for awhile

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Xfire is a game server program, whats the problem here? LoL. And it sucks.

Anyway, if you havent notice abdullah2, most of the scientist in this world does not believe in GOD, thus they are to be label false teachers. Second, science/scientist think they know everything, but they dont. I am above science and scientist because all of my teaching cometh from GOD, not man. And i know more then them, and i can understand more then them.

For example: " Its really no point to talk about the weather , if someone does not understand the weather. Take that one and learn from it and see how the world was created. "

[Abdullah2]

Xfire is a game server program, whats the problem here? LoL. And it sucks.

Anyway, if you havent notice abdullah2, most of the scientist in this world does not believe in GOD, thus they are to be label false teachers. Second, science/scientist think they know everything, but they dont. I am above science and scientist because all of my teaching cometh from GOD, not man. And i know more then them, and i can understand more then them.

For example: " Its really no point to talk about the weather , if someone does not understand the weather. Take that one and learn from it and see how the world was created. "

you are putting a massive sterotype over scientists, not all of them deny God, I'm actually studying astrology because my dream is to be in outter space, according to your statement I'm denying God's teachings, but i think of it as I want to learn MORE about his beautiful creations but not FORGET His teachings just to break the sterotype of most muslims

if I didn't care about discussing the weather and only read the quran all day, then most likely I would be dead this friday, it seems you are trying to take the easy way to get to God. i think your laziness will lead to misery in the future if you continue to ask people their opinion but don't listen to it

[evanft]

Xfire is a game server program, whats the problem here? LoL. And it sucks.

Anyway, if you havent notice abdullah2, most of the scientist in this world does not believe in GOD, thus they are to be label false teachers. Second, science/scientist think they know everything, but they dont. I am above science and scientist because all of my teaching cometh from GOD, not man. And i know more then them, and i can understand more then them.

For example: " Its really no point to talk about the weather , if someone does not understand the weather. Take that one and learn from it and see how the world was created. "

Anyone who thinks like this is a lesser species and should be put in a concentration camp.

[alonzomourning23]

Anyone who thinks like this is a lesser species and should be put in a concentration camp.

We can't just round up the entire bible belt.

[PKRipp3r]

sorry i meant clinging to physical bible of today, which has been through generations of translation and interpretation processes , and not looking at history and other knowledges to verify where and how has the original meaning been changed if it has, or if it is possible

im having alittle trouble understanding if you are trying to say that Bush knows the mind and will of God. If you say that because we are a successful economical country, remember how 'successful' the pharohs seemed to be at the time, did that mean that they exhibited the will of God?

im also wondering where you got the idea that God has a 'mind' as we know the word


..time for me to get out of houston already, sorry if i cant reply for awhile

it's all good

we are saying the same thing (basically)

[PKRipp3r]

science/scientist think they know everything, but they dont. "

100% wrong

Scientists by DEFINITION recognize and as a part of their profession MUST adhere to the notion that not only do they NOT 'know everything' but really that the more they find out through research et. al. - the MORE questions will pop up.

of course scientists dreams of say.... knowing the complete DNA structure of every living thing on earth, or being able to see and identify every star in the night sky, visible to the naked eye or not..... some goals are loftier than others

but to make the statement 'scientists think they know everything' just illustrates how little you know about the very BASIC tenets of scientific discovery in general.

[camoor]

...I'm actually studying astrology because my dream is to be in outter space...

Oh wow, that is truly sig worthy :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What's next - alchemy instead of chemistry, or maybe creationism instead of evolutionary science?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Sleepkyng]

this fuckin retarded thread is still alive?

Jesus H. Christ on a goddamn crutch!

Someone pee in his mouth already and be done with it.

[zionoverfire]

What's next - alchemy instead of chemistry

You know oddly enough I was considering just that this morning. There seem to be enough suckers in this country and enough old parlor tricks to keep them captivated.

[zionoverfire]

most of the scientist in this world does not believe in GOD, thus they are to be label false teachers. Second, science/scientist think they know everything, but they dont. I am above science and scientist because all of my teaching cometh from GOD, not man. And i know more then them, and i can understand more then them.

No, that just makes you as crazy as all the scientists of the world.

And for the record I'm reasonably certain most scientists are religious, alhough perhaps not in a way one with your primitive definitions of religion, belief, and God could comprehend.

[camoor]

You know oddly enough I was considering just that this morning. There seem to be enough suckers in this country and enough old parlor tricks to keep them captivated.

LoL, I felt kind of cheap taking that shot, since the "father of the American space program" was an alchemist, even if he did have lousy taste in friends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons

I just needed a bridge to get the joke working - you know, they usually work better when you punchline using the rule of threes.

[zionoverfire]

LoL, I felt kind of cheap taking that shot, since the "father of the American space program" was an alchemist, even if he did have lousy taste in friends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons

I just needed a bridge to get the joke working - you know, they usually work better when you punchline using the rule of threes.

I realize this, it was merely an odd coincidence that I thought was worth noting.


So the father of the space program was a friend of L. Ron Hubbard?:lol:

[Abdullah2]

nice camoor, I love this brutal honesty, a big change from 'respect' which i used to blindly show in my old life to people who didn't deserve it. looks like my ignorant taliban side is still hanging on , i just went through a huge change in ideology right before this semester, whereas i used to be only a dreamer

But hey for me astrology is a start and atleast a first step in the direction that i think i want,wouldn't you agree? or should there be other classes i take before that? i'm a sophomore in college, but my scientific knowledge is probably the same level as yours when you were 15. you were right before when you assumed i am a strictly mathematical student

edit:dang i should've talked to my advisor or looked into it first, feel so dumb now, atleast theres no such thing as wasted classes is there ;p

[zionoverfire]

But hey for me astrology is a start and atleast a first step in the direction that i think i want,wouldn't you agree? or should there be other classes i take before that? i'm a sophomore in college, but my scientific knowledge is probably the same level as yours when you were 15. you were right before when you assumed i am a strictly mathematical student

Astrology isn't a science, taking a class in it would only further your misconceptions of science and the scientific method.

Why not simply take a Chemistry 100 course instead?:D

[camoor]

But hey for me astrology is a start and atleast a first step in the direction that i think i want,wouldn't you agree? or should there be other classes i take before that? i'm a sophomore in college, but my scientific knowledge is probably the same level as yours when you were 15. you were right before when you assumed i am a strictly mathematical student

Astrology is a fine course to take, it just won't make you an astronaut. A psychonaut maybe, but not an astronaut.

[zionoverfire]

. A psychonaut maybe, but not an astronaut.

Dude, everyone knows you can only become a psychonaut when you collect enough merit badges.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Yay, my thread still going on , keep it going yall, and lets do the boogie.

http://web.csp.edu/prisms/media/3_wild_and_crazy_guys_dancing.JPG

!!!!! GET YA BOOGIE ON ALL, GET IT ON YALL !!!!!!

[evanft]

Jesus is for pussies.

[PKRipp3r]

Jesus is for pussies.

http://tn5.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/145/9/c/Jesus_Equal_Pimp_Adult_Swim.jpg