Does gamers age affect what they want?

[jkam]

With our recent Revolution news I started to think outside my own realm of video gaming. What I mean is this:

I have been playing video games since the early days of the arcades and the Atari 2600. Now I'm wondering if this has had an effect on me. Maybe because I've been gaming for such a long time it makes me a bit tired of the conventional video game as I know it. Playing mainly with a joystick and some buttons. Yeah a lot more buttons through the years but generally the same idea. Although I am unsure of the Revolution the ideas surrounding it seem pretty cool to me. I could see how someone who started playing video games with the release of the playstation would be content playing games the way they know them for quite some time without feeling a need for something new. So is it my many years of game playing that is swaying me to like the possibility of something new?

The funny thing is the first time I saw a DDR game I thought wow that's pretty silly.....and even though it isn't something I'm into watching people play you can grasp the appeal it has.

Although Virtual Reality in the arcades didn't quite make it and didn't live up to the hype that it created I always felt that was pretty much the ultimate goal in gaming. Imagine being able to fly like Superman or pick up a car like the Hulk. The gratification is almost instant. While the Revolution isn't close to virtual reality to me it seems like a step in the right direction. If we are ever going to get there someone has to start paving the way.

Even though I can see the need for something new I don't feel as if the old should be left behind either....I mean even until this day we have a wealth of 2D games not to mention a ton of collections of old-school games. So I guess what I'm saying is why can't we have it all? It seems to me the gaming industry is only getting bigger at this point....and it would be great to have new innovations along with the games we know and love.

[psiufoxx2]

3 Reasons why we can't have it all:

1) Microsoft
2) Sony
3) EA

'Nuff said. Sad but true.

[camoor]

eyetoy is a step in the right direction

[Mafia]

I think it does. The first games I played were on my aunt's Atari 5200 when I was 3 or 4, although I didn't really play a lot until the NES in 89 or so. As much as I appreciate open ended and expansive games such as the GTA's or hundred hour long quests in a Final Fantasy there's still a part of me that appreciates early games like SMB simply because they did what they had with the technology at the time and what they created then is still fun.

I honestly think kids growing up with games today expect way too much in the realm of perfect life-like graphics and don't always appreciate what came before it, which is pretty sad.

[Zoglog]

I think you guys obviously take games too seriously.

[jshendel]

eyetoy is a step in the right direction
Right. Interactive gaming is getting bigger with eyetoy and DDR pads and bongos. I hope it does become more mainstream and affordable to the general public. How many of us have spent money on a GunCon or a Super Scope 6 just for it to be useful on a few games. If it really catches the public (i.e. DDR) more companies will use the accessory.

People also want what's familiar. That is why all these "Arcade Treasure" games have come out from Midway, Capcom, etc. Companies are retrying to capture oldschool gamer audiences.
So, at my age of 23, I also want games from both worlds

[Scrubking]

Another Revolution fanboy thread?

And for the last time the Revolution isn't anything new and it isn't going to save the world.

[Quackzilla]

Another Revolution fanboy thread?

And for the last time the Revolution isn't anything new and it isn't going to save the world.
Wow, this stupid fucker actually said something right for once in his life.

[mtxbass1]

Another Revolution fanboy thread?

And for the last time the Revolution isn't anything new and it isn't going to save the world.

Agreed. How many Revolution-esque threads do you start OP? I count 5.

edit:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67516
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67403
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67143
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67266
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64883

[shipwreck]

It looks like I have about the same background in gaming as the OP. I'm 26 and I have little to no interest in trying to play a game with Nintendo's wand. I also don't want to play Nintendogs or any games with a stylus for that matter. I have bongos and dance pads and light guns which I enjoy, but the stylus/wand method of control does not interest me in the least. So, no, age does not affect whether you are excited about the Revolution or not.

[jkam]

Another Revolution fanboy thread?

And for the last time the Revolution isn't anything new and it isn't going to save the world.

Wow, this stupid fucker actually said something right for once in his life.

Agreed, how many Revolution-esque threads do you start OP?

To be completely honest I'm not even sure I want a Revolution just yet. I would really would like to try out a few games before I make a decision. I am however in the favor of innovation like I stated in my post. I just think a lot of people see something new as the end of everything that came before it which in the gaming industry has yet to be seen. As for the post count 2 of those 5 were news posts. Also if you actually read my posts none of them bash companies or favor anything. They are just what I was thinking at the time.

[jollydwarf]

"Does gamers' age(s) affect what they want?"

Yes, but it seems that it's the teens and preteens who really want the Rockstar games and the adults who don't mind the sedate RPGs, "Katamaris", "Viewtiful Joes", or vintage Mario games.

Don't tell me that game companies don't recognize this surface-level irony.

(I'm not a big fan of the 'minors', especially when it comes to gaming-related topics, if you can't tell)

[mietha]

I've been playing video games since I was three (25 years). I started with a cocktail table Pac-Man at my father's work. My first system was an Atari 5200 and I've gotten the great majority of the ones released since then. And I, for one, think the Revolution is a totally asinine idea. It doesn't bring up thoughts of VR. It brings up thoughts of R.O.B. or the power pad or the power glove or the DS etc. Basically Nintendo has a LONG history of trying to put out "Innovative" devices to control games when the simple truth is that a standard controller does the same job easier and better. Always has and will until they make an implant that allows brain function to directly control a game (not as far off as many would think-Sony already has tech to beam stimuli directly into your brain, the reverse can't be THAT far off). Sure all the toys are fun for awhile, but that's just it. They ARE toys. Nintendo still thinks of video games as toys, not entertainment targeted at adults. So yeah, I would imagine those that are children, or those that are young at heart (or whatever PC bullshit phrasing you want to use) would be much more interested in the latest wannabee fad Nintendo has to offer. I've ALWAYS taken gaming seriously. I want bigger, better, faster. I want graphics that are higher rez than real life. I want AI smarter than me. etc. What I do not want is to flick a remote control up to jump. That is what the A button is, has been and will always be for. There will probably be some neat games made for the Revolution. One or two might even be worth playing. But that's it. It's not going to change the industry and it's sure as fuck not going to change the way I (or pretty much anyone else for that matter) plays games.

[Scrubking]

I've been playing video games since I was three (25 years). I started with a cocktail table Pac-Man at my father's work. My first system was an Atari 5200 and I've gotten the great majority of the ones released since then. And I, for one, think the Revolution is a totally asinine idea. It doesn't bring up thoughts of VR. It brings up thoughts of R.O.B. or the power pad or the power glove or the DS etc. Basically Nintendo has a LONG history of trying to put out "Innovative" devices to control games when the simple truth is that a standard controller does the same job easier and better. Always has and will until they make an implant that allows brain function to directly control a game (not as far off as many would think-Sony already has tech to beam stimuli directly into your brain, the reverse can't be THAT far off). Sure all the toys are fun for awhile, but that's just it. They ARE toys. Nintendo still thinks of video games as toys, not entertainment targeted at adults. So yeah, I would imagine those that are children, or those that are young at heart (or whatever PC bullshit phrasing you want to use) would be much more interested in the latest wannabee fad Nintendo has to offer. I've ALWAYS taken gaming seriously. I want bigger, better, faster. I want graphics that are higher rez than real life. I want AI smarter than me. etc. What I do not want is to flick a remote control up to jump. That is what the A button is, has been and will always be for. There will probably be some neat games made for the Revolution. One or two might even be worth playing. But that's it. It's not going to change the industry and it's sure as fuck not going to change the way I (or pretty much anyone else for that matter) plays games.

:applause:

[woobacca]

I think the fact that there's an active trading market for old school games and that people like to collect them means that new games will never completely replace old ones. New technologies mean new options for interactivity, but the generic qualities that make a game fun tend to remain the same over time. However, it's only natural that developers will release games that take advantage of the latest technologies or push beyond existing boundaries; they need to in order to remain competitive. As long as they make sure to include substance and not just style, gamers will be happy to keep buying.

[MaxBiaggi3]

I have little to no interest in trying to play a game with Nintendo's wand,,,the stylus/wand method of control does not interest me in the least.

Given that we haven't seen any actual games demonstrated using this device (much less tried them ourselves), I think it's a bit early to start judging the value of Nintendo's new hardware. Right now, Nintendo's next console doesn't look too exciting to me either, but this might change if some good software is eventually released to go with it.

[doodle777_98]

The day we can play halo like the way we play laser tag all over the world at home. Is the day innovations should stop. I think taking steps in that directions is good. of course, i'm an anti halo person. because to me its one of the worse FPS's. but i miss the old laser quest days of high school.

[shipwreck]

Given that we haven't seen any actual games demonstrated using this device (much less tried them ourselves), I think it's a bit early to start judging the value of Nintendo's new hardware. Right now, Nintendo's next console doesn't look too exciting to me either, but this might change if some good software is eventually released to go with it.

Well, judging by that video that Nintendo released, that's what they have in mind for the controller. I don't have any interest in playing a game in any of those ways. The dual part controller seems to overcomplicate gameplay and looks incredibly uncomfortable to use. I'm just judging from what Nintendo has presented so far, and so far, that controller just doesn't look like fun to me. Even if there is good software for it, I'm still not going to want to play it with that controller. It's the same feeling I have towards the DS's good games. I want to play the good games, but not with that control method.

[Javery]

I've been playing video games since I was three (25 years). I started with a cocktail table Pac-Man at my father's work. My first system was an Atari 5200 and I've gotten the great majority of the ones released since then. And I, for one, think the Revolution is a totally asinine idea. It doesn't bring up thoughts of VR. It brings up thoughts of R.O.B. or the power pad or the power glove or the DS etc. Basically Nintendo has a LONG history of trying to put out "Innovative" devices to control games when the simple truth is that a standard controller does the same job easier and better. Always has and will until they make an implant that allows brain function to directly control a game (not as far off as many would think-Sony already has tech to beam stimuli directly into your brain, the reverse can't be THAT far off). Sure all the toys are fun for awhile, but that's just it. They ARE toys. Nintendo still thinks of video games as toys, not entertainment targeted at adults. So yeah, I would imagine those that are children, or those that are young at heart (or whatever PC bullshit phrasing you want to use) would be much more interested in the latest wannabee fad Nintendo has to offer. I've ALWAYS taken gaming seriously. I want bigger, better, faster. I want graphics that are higher rez than real life. I want AI smarter than me. etc. What I do not want is to flick a remote control up to jump. That is what the A button is, has been and will always be for. There will probably be some neat games made for the Revolution. One or two might even be worth playing. But that's it. It's not going to change the industry and it's sure as fuck not going to change the way I (or pretty much anyone else for that matter) plays games.

That's just one point of view - I've been playing games for at least as long as you have and I welcome the changes that Nintendo is striving for. I also want bigger, better and faster video games but I'll have a PS3 and an Xbox 360 to choose from and I will be covered. I'm getting a little bored with what is out there. How many touchdowns in Madden or combos in Tony Hawk can I score before I lose interest? Not since Mario 64 (8 years ago, or almost 30% of the lifespan of video games) have I felt truly excited about a new game. Yeah, I get hyped up over the latest and greatest technological feat that a developer might pull off in the current gen but in the end it's mostly the same crap with a different layer of paint. The Revolution might not be any fun at all but I can't wait to try it out and that's something I haven't felt in a long time towards my favorite hobby. Don't knock it until you've tried it.

[Skylander7]

I think age definately does. I look back at games growing up, and I actually enjoyed games like Dragon Warrior, Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, etc. Of course I've always gone ape shit for anything Castlevania, I got some thrills out of Battletoads and Earthworm Jim, etc. Now I'm 25.. I still have an Atari and NES (which I never play and keep boxed up in a closet), but I find that it takes much more for a game to keep my attention. I can't even stomach playing traditional RPG's anymore with random battles. Platformers quickly get boring (although I found Psychonauts and God of War to be excellent, and definately an exception). However, maybe a little due to that nostalgic appreciation, I can still play the hell out of Castlevania III while many of today's games bore me. I enjoy games that are new and different, Xbox live/online (Halo 2, Chaos Theory, etc), and quality games that have such fun gameplay (like Ikaruga, ZOE II, and Rez) that I enjoy playing them over and over again.

I know the gameplay vs. graphics battle is pretty much cliche, but the business has become an even bigger business than it was when I was growing up. Being the billion-something dollar industry that it is, people are willing to take fewer risks (that's why franchises are the new "thing"). I like the fact that games are becoming more interactive and definately in the right direction, but I think in 10 more years (or maybe earlier) you're going to see a much bigger rift grow between us old guys and the younger gamers. As our tastes have grown with the industry, the younger gamers get a bigger kick out of flashier graphics and interactivity and a majority of younger gamers stress less desire for new gameplay ideas and storylines.

Also, look at PC games. Year after year, they're selling less and less. As the lines between PC games and console games blur, the decline will continue. I rarely play PC games anymore, but many my age prefer them over consoles (and they spend alot of money on upgrades in the process).

All in all, the games are going to be around, people are going to age.. etc etc.. but the thing that gets me the most is that the market is definately breaking into different segments in comparison to the old days. I'm wondering what kind of effect it will have in the future on game development.

[psiufoxx2]

I've been playing video games since I was three (25 years). I started with a cocktail table Pac-Man at my father's work. My first system was an Atari 5200 and I've gotten the great majority of the ones released since then. And I, for one, think the Revolution is a totally asinine idea. It doesn't bring up thoughts of VR. It brings up thoughts of R.O.B. or the power pad or the power glove or the DS etc. Basically Nintendo has a LONG history of trying to put out "Innovative" devices to control games when the simple truth is that a standard controller does the same job easier and better. Always has and will until they make an implant that allows brain function to directly control a game (not as far off as many would think-Sony already has tech to beam stimuli directly into your brain, the reverse can't be THAT far off). Sure all the toys are fun for awhile, but that's just it. They ARE toys. Nintendo still thinks of video games as toys, not entertainment targeted at adults. So yeah, I would imagine those that are children, or those that are young at heart (or whatever PC bullshit phrasing you want to use) would be much more interested in the latest wannabee fad Nintendo has to offer. I've ALWAYS taken gaming seriously. I want bigger, better, faster. I want graphics that are higher rez than real life. I want AI smarter than me. etc. What I do not want is to flick a remote control up to jump. That is what the A button is, has been and will always be for. There will probably be some neat games made for the Revolution. One or two might even be worth playing. But that's it. It's not going to change the industry and it's sure as fuck not going to change the way I (or pretty much anyone else for that matter) plays games.

************** THE FOLLOWING IS JUST ARGUMENTATIVE CRITICISM - MIETHA IS ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION. :) And with that caveat, read on! ***************

The Fuck. You take gaming seriously, eh? Are we talking politics here? Are we talking life and death? We're talking GAMES, fella.

I proffer my opinion by saying, "Fuck that mentality." I want to have fun when I game and dammit this thing looks like fun. Sure I'm a Nintendo fanboy - but so are you all. If you play with any modern gaming machine you are a Nintendo fanboy at least by derivation - hence the only way in which I consider myself a "fanboy".

But forget Nintendo for a moment. Imagine if you will that Sony had announced this technology for THEIR next platform - I guarantee you 2 things would have happened:

1) Sony fanboys would be ALL OVER IT calling it the greatest thing since sliced bread.
2) Nintendo would NOT be getting the attention they are now, which is half of the reason they took this direction with their new launch.

So don't tell me I TAKE GAMING SERIOUSLY TOYS ARE FOR CHILDS HAHAHAHA - you once enjoyed games because they were fun too, not because they were OMGFAST. And don't tell me that "pretty much everyone ever in the history of ever" won't enjoy or embrace this inventive way of playing games, because you certainly don't know.

[willardhaven]

agreed psiufoxx2.

[shipwreck]

But forget Nintendo for a moment. Imagine if you will that Sony had nnounced this technology for THEIR next platform - I guarantee you 2 things would have happened:

1) Sony fanboys would be ALL OVER IT calling it the greatest think since sliced bread.
2) Nintendo would NOT be getting the attention they are now, which is half of the reason they took this direction with their new launch.

I don't know if number 1 there is necessarily true. I'm most likely an Xbox fanboy and if Microsoft would have showed this controller, I would have puked. I'm honestly glad it was Nintendo that pulled this as I'm sure a lot of us are less concerned that the remote is for our likely secondary system. If Sony or Microsoft would have said this was their new controller, there would be a whole lot more people pissed off.

[Spacepest]

I've been playing video games since I was three (25 years). I started with a cocktail table Pac-Man at my father's work. My first system was an Atari 5200 and I've gotten the great majority of the ones released since then. And I, for one, think the Revolution is a totally asinine idea. It doesn't bring up thoughts of VR. It brings up thoughts of R.O.B. or the power pad or the power glove or the DS etc. Basically Nintendo has a LONG history of trying to put out "Innovative" devices to control games when the simple truth is that a standard controller does the same job easier and better. Always has and will until they make an implant that allows brain function to directly control a game (not as far off as many would think-Sony already has tech to beam stimuli directly into your brain, the reverse can't be THAT far off). Sure all the toys are fun for awhile, but that's just it. They ARE toys. Nintendo still thinks of video games as toys, not entertainment targeted at adults. So yeah, I would imagine those that are children, or those that are young at heart (or whatever PC bullshit phrasing you want to use) would be much more interested in the latest wannabee fad Nintendo has to offer. I've ALWAYS taken gaming seriously. I want bigger, better, faster. I want graphics that are higher rez than real life. I want AI smarter than me. etc. What I do not want is to flick a remote control up to jump. That is what the A button is, has been and will always be for. There will probably be some neat games made for the Revolution. One or two might even be worth playing. But that's it. It's not going to change the industry and it's sure as fuck not going to change the way I (or pretty much anyone else for that matter) plays games.

*cheers in agreement*

I'm all for video game innovation, but not overly gimmicky innovation. I can tell you exactly what is going to happen with the silly new remote control shaped controller-me and my spouse will always end up mistaking the stupid thing for the regular tv remote, and either lose it, get it mixed up with another remote when we do want to play a game, and then end up fighting over it for control of it or blame each other for misplacing it.

[Mr.Answer]

I'm an old school gamer.. 2600, intel, ody, trs. etc. and I'm open to the new controller....really it seems much better than the old coleco stick/pad/ intellivisons terrible circular thing. and the 2600 phallus with a button. So write me down as an old schooler who will try anything and accept it if it is honestly better.

[Mr.Answer]

*cheers in agreement*

I'm all for video game innovation, but not overly gimmicky innovation. I can tell you exactly what is going to happen with the silly new remote control shaped controller-me and my spouse will always end up mistaking the stupid thing for the regular tv remote, and either lose it, get it mixed up with another remote when we do want to play a game, and then end up fighting over it for control of it or blame each other for misplacing it.

So it appears that the OP theory is correct..that the gamer age does affect opinion. I don't care what the button config is as long as it is good. The TRs-80, 2600, coleco, intellivision had VERY differnt controllers but one got used to it. NES came around but there was still the turbo graphix and I somehow figured out how to use it. Then ps1/dreamcast/n 64/ gamecube/xbox/ps2 came out all kinda different.. and I COULD USE ALL OF THEM. Controller is option #99 when it comes to system buying

[Morpheus]

Doesn't anyone else see the pure genius behind the Nintendo Revolutions controller? Nintendo is targeting the kids again. Don't you all see that? Give that system to a little kid and let him play with it all day. He can fly planes like a paper airplane, go fishing like he's holding a rod, zap nasty creatures as if it were a gun, swat bugs as if he were holding a fly swatter, play Thomas like a chu chu, play boatsy's as if he were in a tub, etc. This thing is going to be bought up by parents to drain their little kids everlasting battery. Pure genius on Nintendo's part. :D

PS Nintendo not supporting 720p or higher confirms this even more. Little kids won't have HDTVs for a long time (I know there are few exceptions, rich brats).

[Javery]

Doesn't anyone else see the pure genius behind the Nintendo Revolutions controller? Nintendo is targeting the kids again. Don't you all see that? Give that system to a little kid and let him play with it all day. He can fly planes like a paper airplane, go fishing like he's holding a rod, zap nasty creatures as if it were a gun, swat bugs as if he were holding a fly swatter, play Thomas like a chu chu, play boatsy's as if he were in a tub, etc. This thing is going to be bought up by parents to drain their little kids everlasting battery. Pure genius on Nintendo's part. :D

PS Nintendo not supporting 720p or higher confirms this even more. Little kids won't have HDTVs for a long time (I know there are few exceptions, rich brats).

What?

[Morpheus]

What?

I guess you don't have kids.

[Javery]

I guess you don't have kids.

Wrong. I do have kids it's just that 1/2 of the stuff you ranted about sounded like it would be fun for me to play. I'd love to swing a virtual sword or point and shoot enimies on screen or go fishing or whatever. I've been at this hobby a long time (25+ years) and the unveiling of the Revolution controller is the first time since 1996 that I've been genuinely excited about a new system coming out because it will change the way we play games. I think it will make all of the mundane things we take for granted about games like simply moving around or shooting something fun again. I'll still buy a PS3 or an Xbox 360 (but probably not both) to play more "traditional" games but it will be nice to have the option to play something a little different for once. I can't believe people are dismissing it without at least seeing a game in action nevermind actually trying it for yourself...

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Obviously the answer is yes. I'm never going to buy Scooby Doo, Mary Kate & Ashley, Barbie, Spongebob, Finding Nemo or any of the Nickelodeon games. I'm never going to pick up all the horrendous Mario character games no matter how well they're reviewed like Mario Tennis, Golf, Baseball, Mario Party etc. I've also never played Mario Kart for the same type of reason, I hate contributing to Nintendo's continued abuse of these characters. I did make an exception for SSB:M since they included every character they had and was much like Power Stone in 2-D.

None of what I just said though would preclude me from buying a PS3, 360 or Revolution. There's always something to play on every console. I may play my Xbox the most because of Halo, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Burnout and RTCW but I wouldn't give up my PS2 (PSone and 2 RPG's) or Game Cube.

Obviously age plays some factor in what games people buy and play. What's sad is that people think stuff like Nintendo is teh K1DD13!1!1! and write anything off just because it's on a Nintendo console. I would hate to think I never got to play Eternal Darkness.

EDIT: Note on "innovation". I read something the other day that really made me go hmmmmm. How did Nintendo come out with the excercise mat/controller for the NES and let a concept like DDR go right over their heads?

[Javery]

How did Nintendo come out with the excercise mat/controller for the NES and let a concept like DDR go right over their heads?

The same way they released the Zapper and didn't think of Time Crisis or House of the Dead, or anything really fun to do with it. Instead we got Gumshoe, Hogan's Alley and Duck Hunt which, don't get me wrong, were OK for the time but Jesus Christ you are using a GUN - why not use it to shoot something fun like bad guys or zombies?

[Morpheus]

Wrong. I do have kids it's just that 1/2 of the stuff you ranted about sounded like it would be fun for me to play. I'd love to swing a virtual sword or point and shoot enimies on screen or go fishing or whatever. I've been at this hobby a long time (25+ years) and the unveiling of the Revolution controller is the first time since 1996 that I've been genuinely excited about a new system coming out because it will change the way we play games. I think it will make all of the mundane things we take for granted about games like simply moving around or shooting something fun again. I'll still buy a PS3 or an Xbox 360 (but probably not both) to play more "traditional" games but it will be nice to have the option to play something a little different for once. I can't believe people are dismissing it without at least seeing a game in action nevermind actually trying it for yourself...

I think you missed my point in the original post. I never said it wouldn't be fun for others. I was stating that the controller is perfect for kids (not teens). ;)

PS I hope the Thomas part wasn't a game you would play. :D j/k

[Javery]

I think you missed my point in the original post. I never said it wouldn't be fun for others. I was stating that the controller is perfect for kids (not teens). ;)

PS I hope the Thomas part wasn't a game you would play. :D j/k

Ahhh, yeah I did miss the point of your original post. I thought you were saying that ONLY kids would want to play it.

Also, I'd play a Thomas game if it was fun... and not a Thomas game. :D

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

Doesn't anyone else see the pure genius behind the Nintendo Revolutions controller? Nintendo is targeting the kids again. Don't you all see that? Give that system to a little kid and let him play with it all day. He can fly planes like a paper airplane, go fishing like he's holding a rod, zap nasty creatures as if it were a gun, swat bugs as if he were holding a fly swatter, play Thomas like a chu chu, play boatsy's as if he were in a tub, etc. This thing is going to be bought up by parents to drain their little kids everlasting battery. Pure genius on Nintendo's part. :D

PS Nintendo not supporting 720p or higher confirms this even more. Little kids won't have HDTVs for a long time (I know there are few exceptions, rich brats).

He's right......not that many adults won't enjoy it as well though.

[The VGM]

me and my spouse will always end up mistaking the stupid thing for the regular tv remote, and either lose it, get it mixed up with another remote when we do want to play a game, and then end up fighting over it for control of it or blame each other for misplacing it.

I don't think it's the controller that is stupid....

[Animefalcon]

Umm no Im still buying ID games(commander keen any1) and Im still buying Epic games(go back to zone 66, epic pinball, jill of the jungle, jazz jackrabit), still play D&D and SF.
Age has no effect on what they play