View Full Version : Help me out with my future, please
XxFuRy2Xx
10-01-2005, 02:44 AM
I am currently a computer science major, although I have decided that it isn't really for me. I was wondering if any of you guys knew of any sites that would give me information about different majors, and what types of job I could get with that major. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
U2K Tha Greate$t
10-01-2005, 02:55 AM
Monster jobs, i think. I dont care for science, so i guess my only advice that comes to mind is checking out monster jobs.
I am pretty sure others may come in give you more information tho.
mojoman5165
10-01-2005, 02:59 AM
I find this site interesting
http://www.bls.gov/search/ooh.asp?ct=OOH
chosen1s
10-01-2005, 03:05 AM
Go to your school's career center. There are people there who will help you understand your options, and their whole mission in life is to get you the job that best suits you. Most of those people are making far less than they could in the "real world" because they would rather help future professionals figure themselves out. They also have incredible contacts.
My point - they have all the information you're looking for - PLUS - they will communicate face-to-face with you and work to get you the job you want.
camoor
10-01-2005, 04:30 AM
You might want to consider majoring in business. The three skills required seem to be basic accounting skills, BSing, and drinking beer.
Of course I'm a comp sci grad ;)
Genocidal
10-01-2005, 04:47 AM
If I were you I'd definitely talk to someone at your college... do you have an advisor for your major? That would be the first place I would go. After that, yea, try to find someone from the career center like chosen suggested. If that doesn't work, you may even want to talk to a professor in a department you may be interested in. Good luck.
XxFuRy2Xx
10-01-2005, 02:00 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. I will be talking to an advisor at school on Monday.
Camoor: I knew some other computer science guy would come in here and rag on me, just like my other two friends (comp sci majors). LOL. Don't know, but I am a complete dumbass when it comes to math, so I am getting out. Although, I will NOT be getting a bussiness degree, lol.
I'm working towards not having a job. I got to college for graphic design so my parents won't cry, but I want to work with film, screenwriting and animation (creatively calling the shot with all), which I don't classify as a job.
If I had a 9 to 5 job, I'd kill myself.
Whether this is a pipe dream or not, it's what I've got to do, as I love doing it.
And if anyone has a couple million dollar lying around, I could make a film with it. ;)
Darwin23
10-01-2005, 02:29 PM
I got 3 different degrees and i still dont know if my current job is the right one for me.
got a degree in health science, business administration and health information management----
i'm now working in a rewarding job...but for some reason i'm now bored and want to do something else.
i think my real passion is anthropology or sociology. i'm a history buff and read all sorts of history, science and sociology books. i'm just realizing that now, but when i was in college, i was just taking classes so i can finish and get a job.
i'll probably never find out what i really want to do. i have so many different interest.
I understand where you're coming from. I also was a CS major but got out of it because I decided it wasnt right for me. I'm doing DIS now which is a little similar to CIS but focuses more on the business aspect and I enjoy it a lot. Check your Career Advisment Center or ask an advisor.
Saucy Jack
10-01-2005, 02:35 PM
I'm working towards not having a job. I got to college for graphic design so my parents won't cry, but I want to work with film, screenwriting and animation (creatively calling the shot with all), which I don't classify as a job.
If I had a 9 to 5 job, I'd kill myself.
Whether this is a pipe dream or not, it's what I've got to do, as I love doing it.
And if anyone has a couple million dollar lying around, I could make a film with it. ;)
:applause:
I'm in a similar boat, except that my boat is still stuck at the docks. I'd love to do something with film or acting, but we all know that the chances for success in those fields are pretty slim. So, whenever I eventually make it to college, I'm wondering what field to go into. I might pick something science-related to be safe, but my heart is in film/performance.
I wouldn't want a 9 to 5 job, either.
Also, if anyone does have some money and some people who love to have fun, I could make some movies with it.
XxFuRy2Xx
10-01-2005, 06:10 PM
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one confused here about their future career. I was wondering if any of you guys knew what type of degree you need to have for a job like the one hahn choi (g4 tech lab, formerly tech tv labs) has? That would definitely be an awesome job.
JSweeney
10-01-2005, 07:12 PM
I understand where you're coming from. I also was a CS major but got out of it because I decided it wasnt right for me. I'm doing DIS now which is a little similar to CIS but focuses more on the business aspect and I enjoy it a lot. Check your Career Advisment Center or ask an advisor.
That may not help him though.... MIS and DIS ciriculums usually share major components with a CS degree, and he's pointed out he can't hack it as a CS major.
Running away is hardly a sound tactic. Bearing down and getting the job done is usually the best course of action. The only way you should run away from a major or a career path is that you're sure that that isn't what you want to do with your life.
A that point, you have to quite a bit of introspection... and then find actual experts in the area your interested in.
b3b0p
10-01-2005, 07:24 PM
I am also a Computer Science Major (graduate in December of this year).
What year are you? If you are far along (with in a year) stick with it would be my advice. Although this could be relative. I needed 45 or so credits to graduate last December/January. I was so sick of school, I went full steam ahead and finished them all except these last 15. Which are a bitch.
Why did you consider computer science in the first place? Are you a total nerd? What was your career goals when you enrolled as a computer science major (what did you want to do)? Did you do it because you were interested in computers and thought this would fit? or was it because you were interested in solving problems and implementing them on a computer/device?
XxFuRy2Xx
10-02-2005, 01:25 AM
I was into computers and thought it would fit. Also, all of my other friends are CS majors, so I thought I would fit in well. I'm not very deep into it. I am still taking general education classes.
I am NOT running away from ANYTHING. Just after doing some thinking I figured that I didn't really want to be a programmer for the rest of my life. Like I said earlier, I am going to talk to an advisor at my school on Monday.
alonzomourning23
10-02-2005, 01:47 AM
Thanks for the advice guys. I will be talking to an advisor at school on Monday.
Camoor: I knew some other computer science guy would come in here and rag on me, just like my other two friends (comp sci majors). LOL. Don't know, but I am a complete dumbass when it comes to math, so I am getting out. Although, I will NOT be getting a bussiness degree, lol.
Most people I know in business (most, not all) are only in it for the money. It sounds good now, but if you are in a job for 30 years that you hate, and just do it for the money, you're probably going to wish you did something difference. Sure you may have made less money, but it's probably much better to find a balance, a job you like with decent earning potential. As long as you have financial security, I don't see why you'd want to go to one extreme or the other.
Ecofreak
10-02-2005, 01:52 AM
Definitely talk to career services. And if you're going to make a major decision like this, the sooner the better. Definitely by the start of next semester at the latest.
Liquid 2
10-02-2005, 04:49 AM
I was into computers and thought it would fit. Also, all of my other friends are CS majors, so I thought I would fit in well. I'm not very deep into it. I am still taking general education classes.
do what you wanna do man, dont do something thats going to be your whole future because your friends are doing it,
hell, most of my friends are probably gonna land jobs as cashiers or janitors or live with their parents till they die and they can collect inheritance,
me? I'm actually working to get into a good college so I can do what I want
camoor
10-02-2005, 09:58 AM
Thanks for the advice guys. I will be talking to an advisor at school on Monday.
Camoor: I knew some other computer science guy would come in here and rag on me, just like my other two friends (comp sci majors). LOL. Don't know, but I am a complete dumbass when it comes to math, so I am getting out. Although, I will NOT be getting a bussiness degree, lol.
I'm not "ragging" on you or business majors. I think it's not a bad move to pick a major that plays to your strengths, and if you know any real-life managers or salesmen, you'll know that alot of the business requires salesmanship (IE taking clients/workers out to dinner, holding thier hands, explaining why a new product/service will meet their needs - along with some razz-a-ma-tazz) You really think I'm bragging because I'd be in the computer lab on a thursday evening while my business and english major buds were acting like it was saturday night at the bars? :D
I have a buddy who quit a good paying sales job to do some political internships. Trust me, it was an eye-opener and he is now looking for a sales job that is half as good as the one he quit. Alot of people will try to tell you that money doesn't matter - you better figure out if you're one of those people.
Also - you can program for the next 30 years - but that's a rarity - if you want to go places with a comp sci career you'll soon learn that the money is in management (ie leadership) and sales.
XxFuRy2Xx
10-02-2005, 11:20 AM
Camoor: Yeah, I checked out the site that mojoman (awesome link by the way) put up and I saw that it was the management folk making the most money.
I was wondering if any of you guys knew what type of degree you need to have for a job like the one hahn choi (g4 tech lab, formerly tech tv labs) has? That would definitely be an awesome job.Can anyone answer this question?
JSweeney
10-02-2005, 11:34 AM
I am also a Computer Science Major (graduate in December of this year).
What year are you? If you are far along (with in a year) stick with it would be my advice. Although this could be relative. I needed 45 or so credits to graduate last December/January. I was so sick of school, I went full steam ahead and finished them all except these last 15. Which are a bitch.
Why did you consider computer science in the first place? Are you a total nerd? What was your career goals when you enrolled as a computer science major (what did you want to do)? Did you do it because you were interested in computers and thought this would fit? or was it because you were interested in solving problems and implementing them on a computer/device?
Exactly bebop...
And if you're reallly tired of it, try working in a internship with it. It may slow your eventual graduation, but it gives you a reminder of WHY your doing this everyday.
Starting my sophmore year, I was out working in a field that I would eventually end up working in. It also works out well when you graduate.
Unless you just started and can't hack the Calc and programing classes, you're often better off sticking to it.
JSweeney
10-02-2005, 11:44 AM
I'm not "ragging" on you or business majors. I think it's not a bad move to pick a major that plays to your strengths, and if you know any real-life managers or salesmen, you'll know that alot of the business requires salesmanship (IE taking clients/workers out to dinner, holding thier hands, explaining why a new product/service will meet their needs - along with some razz-a-ma-tazz) You really think I'm bragging because I'd be in the computer lab on a thursday evening while my business and english major buds were acting like it was saturday night at the bars? :D
I have a buddy who quit a good paying sales job to do some political internships. Trust me, it was an eye-opener and he is now looking for a sales job that is half as good as the one he quit. Alot of people will try to tell you that money doesn't matter - you better figure out if you're one of those people.
Also - you can program for the next 30 years - but that's a rarity - if you want to go places with a comp sci career you'll soon learn that the money is in management (ie leadership) and sales.
Camoor is quite right about the money being in management (leadership) and sales. But having a BS in CS along with your MBA will give you a distinct competitive advantage against those with just a BA in Business in concert with thier MBA. You can do every normal plain vanilla Marketing and finance jobs they can, but you can also be of use to the company's IT org. (or be a more efficent manager in a tech-based company)
JSweeney
10-02-2005, 11:48 AM
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one confused here about their future career. I was wondering if any of you guys knew what type of degree you need to have for a job like the one hahn choi (g4 tech lab, formerly tech tv labs) has? That would definitely be an awesome job.
Ask Epobirs... he's written for Wired.
Of course, you're probably not going to like the answers you get.
Javery
10-02-2005, 11:57 AM
Major in business and get an MBA after college. It's the best "least effort/most salary" combination out there I think. As far as doing something you love - go for it while you are young and have no responsibilities and if you can stand being poor. Unfortunately, I couldn't stand not having money so I whore myself out to my firm doing something I used to not mind but now I've grown to hate.
XxFuRy2Xx
10-02-2005, 01:42 PM
Well, I just sent Epobirs a PM. Hopefully he will answer me.
javery: Do you mind if I ask you what your job is?
Javery
10-02-2005, 03:09 PM
Well, I just sent Epobirs a PM. Hopefully he will answer me.
javery: Do you mind if I ask you what your job is?
I'm a corporate attorney.
JSweeney
10-02-2005, 04:52 PM
Major in business and get an MBA after college. It's the best "least effort/most salary" combination out there I think. As far as doing something you love - go for it while you are young and have no responsibilities and if you can stand being poor. Unfortunately, I couldn't stand not having money so I whore myself out to my firm doing something I used to not mind but now I've grown to hate.
From a pure cost/benefit analysis, you're right, javeryh.
The problem with most people is that they tend to not finish up and get that MBA. A Business degree on it's own isn't too impressive... especially since any job you'd want you'd be competing with an MBA.
JSweeney
10-02-2005, 04:54 PM
I'm a corporate attorney.
... with quite a few interesting tales to tell. If only a few dealt less with feces. :lol:
Javery
10-02-2005, 05:44 PM
From a pure cost/benefit analysis, you're right, javeryh.
The problem with most people is that they tend to not finish up and get that MBA. A Business degree on it's own isn't too impressive... especially since any job you'd want you'd be competing with an MBA.
This is very true. Business degrees are a dime a dozen and even MBAs are being handed out like Halloween candy to anyone who shows up at the door. If you are going to start something and you have a plan in mind make sure to carry it out. You need to distinguish yourself on the resume even though in practice all the fancy degrees don't mean shit. I mean, I did so-so in college but I got straight As in law school which enabled me to land the job I'm at and with the firm's name on my resume I can pretty much do what I want in the future. It's all about perception.
Javery
10-02-2005, 05:46 PM
... with quite a few interesting tales to tell. If only a few dealt less with feces. :lol:
yeah, but laughing at this stuff is what gets me through the day! I probably bring it on myself with my facination of human behavior in an office environment... and the hilarity of feces in general. :D
darkmere
10-02-2005, 06:37 PM
And if you're going to make a major decision like this, the sooner the better. Definitely by the start of next semester at the latest.
terrible advice...never rush a decision this important. when i was 22 and all my classmates from high school were graduating from college i was still working in a grocery store and miserable. i had already done some college but had to change fields of study because my original career path became more problematic than i cared to deal with (aviation). i took some time off from school and after thinking about it decided i wanted to make films. i'll be done with my current school next summer, just after i turn 25, and ready to work in film.
:applause:
I'm in a similar boat, except that my boat is still stuck at the docks. I'd love to do something with film or acting, but we all know that the chances for success in those fields are pretty slim. So, whenever I eventually make it to college, I'm wondering what field to go into. I might pick something science-related to be safe, but my heart is in film/performance.
I wouldn't want a 9 to 5 job, either.
Also, if anyone does have some money and some people who love to have fun, I could make some movies with it.
why not look into film school? so what if you never direct or are the lead actor? is it what you wanna do? there's good money to be made, though that's not why i'm in it. i think pa's (production assistants, the lowest paying position on set) here in vancouver make at least 8 or 10 bucks an hour, no experience required. after 8 hours on set it goes to time and a half, 12 hours it's double time, and 14 and beyond is triple time. it only gets better from there, for the most part. my understanding is that the payscale is even higher back in the states. it is hard work, but i just like being on set and helping out, trying to figure out how to make a shot work.
Mike23
10-02-2005, 07:00 PM
I think everyone has their doubts. I mean, being a Politics major, I question why I do it almost everyday. My parents are definitely trying to push me into law school, but I'm not sure that's the path I want to go. I went into it because I do very well in politics and enjoy it, but the career options there are limited.
The moral of the story is, pick a major with good job opportunities and make sure it's something you'd like to do.
Saucy Jack
10-02-2005, 07:09 PM
why not look into film school? so what if you never direct or are the lead actor? is it what you wanna do? there's good money to be made, though that's not why i'm in it. i think pa's (production assistants, the lowest paying position on set) here in vancouver make at least 8 or 10 bucks an hour, no experience required. after 8 hours on set it goes to time and a half, 12 hours it's double time, and 14 and beyond is triple time. it only gets better from there, for the most part. my understanding is that the payscale is even higher back in the states. it is hard work, but i just like being on set and helping out, trying to figure out how to make a shot work.
Cool. Thanks for the advice. I'm a bit jaded at times, because if a 4.0 GPA, hundreds of accolades/awards, Honor Society memberships, volunteer work, etc. can't get you the money to go to school... probably nothing will. I had all those things and well... you can get the rest of the picture. I must have bad luck or something.
Anyway, my biggest dream kinda involves film. But I think I'm already too old for that...
Well, we'll see what happens.
darkmere
10-02-2005, 09:03 PM
Anyway, my biggest dream kinda involves film. But I think I'm already too old for that...
Well, we'll see what happens.
you're never too old. there's 18 people in my class, the oldest person being about 34 i think. one guy just turned 30 thursday. the great thing is there's different kinds of school too. i personally don't like the 4 year university thing, never really have. the school i'm going to is vancouver film school. www.vfs.com it's pretty good, and it's a one year format. there are other schools out there that have copied the one year program, but this was one of the originals. the biggest thing to consider is the school's reputation within the industry and the instructor's experience level. i have to say that i'm pretty happy with both.
i was also pretty impressed with chapman university in orange, ca, but vfs was my first choice personally. and avoid 'art institute' schools...these are widely considered a joke and waste of time and money by pretty much everyone i've talked to.