View Full Version : Jack Thompson is being a dick again...perpetually (Update: Bitchslapped by P-A.com)
Strell
10-12-2005, 05:00 PM
Update, 10-17-05:
Today, three amazing things happened in the battle on gamers vs. Jack Doughboy Thompson.
1. A team has created his exact simulator he asked for by modding San Andreas to his specifications. The link is here (http://hellfish.gtajunkies.com/Story.html) but it seems to be flooded at the moment. I'm sure mirrors will appear soon. The team - GTA players Fighting Hellfish - titled it Defamation of Character: A Jack Thompson Murder Simulator.
2. Thompson replied by saying that 1) we don't understand his satire, 2) our actions clearly show our willingness to further corrupt humanity, and 3) the game wasn't to his specifications at all.
3. Because of this, he has refused to donate the supposed $10K he said he would to a charity to help restrict gaming violence/exposure to small children. This is where it gets really good. Penny-Arcade.com has officially bitchslapped the hell out of him. I will quote since that is the only way to do it justice:
You know what, Jack? We're going to be the men you're not. You said that your insulting, illusory ten thousand dollars would go to the charity of Paul Eibler's choice. We've got a good guess that he'd direct your nonexistant largesse toward The Entertainment Software Association Foundation, a body that has raised over six point seven million dollars over the last eight years. We've just made the donation you never would, and never meant to. Ten thousand dollars' worth. And we made it in your name.
Pure ownage.
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I'm sure most have heard of his new proposal, in which he will donate $10,000 to a charity if someone indulges his Saturn-sized ego of creating a highly violent videogame.
In short, it centers around a father whose son was killed by a gamer. Supposedly the gamer was way into some violent game (he doesn't directly name GTA but it's easy to draw that conclusion) where he killed people with bats, and then slaughtered the father's son. After he is convicted and sent to life in the jail, the father goes nuts thinking that justice was not served. So he goes INSANE and decides it's vigilante justice time, bitch. So he picks up all manner of weapons - guns, bats, etc - and proceeds to walk around slaughtering the developers of the game, the lawyers who defended the games actions (think freedom of speech for the gaming development community, Jack phrased it oddly), etc etc etc, a long unending list of nonsense, rhetoric, and non-sequiter rambling ensues.
So I was thinking, let's give him his cake and watch him have to shove it up his ass.
I propose a text adventure game. How honestly hard could it be to put it together.
>YOU SEE PEOPLES. KILLS DEMS? Y OR N
Y
>YOU KILL PEOPLES. N, S, E, W?
N
>YOU ENTER A PLACE WITH MORE PEOPLES. KILL DEMS? Y OR N
And so on. We could even have a score system. Did you kill people? 100 points. Did you not kill people? No points, you lose, AND the game calls you a pussy.
I'm not bored or ....um...unbusy enough to make such a thing. But how great would it be to see gamers finally show this idiot up?
(Note: I do think this is a good idea but I don't necessarily care if it happens or not. I'm mostly just talking because I'm still on lunch break.)
He's a link to the story in question: http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/violent-games/jack-thompson-offers-10k-charity-for-proposal-130254.php
EDIT: Damn semantics.
chickenhawk
10-12-2005, 05:43 PM
What a fruitloop!
chakan
10-12-2005, 05:45 PM
That further exposes what a self righteous HYPOCRITE he is!
AlbinoNinja
10-12-2005, 05:47 PM
read his game proposal fully, and he just wants the game to play himself... we all know it...
sick fuck
Apossum
10-12-2005, 06:06 PM
This guy is so fucking stupid.
Jack Thompson will give $10,000 to charity if any videogame company makes and releases a game based on a scenario he created.
Miami, Florida Attorney Jack Thompson, a long-time outspoken critic of violent and sexually explicit videogames, has done something totally unexpected. Thompson today actually proposed a violent videogame, and will pay $10,000 to the favorite charity of Paul Eibeler (the Chairman of Take-Two Interactive) if any videogame company will "create, manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006" based on a scenario he created.
Thompson's proposal is titled A Modest Video Game Proposal and has been sent to members of the press and apparantly to Douglas Lowenstein, President of the ESA.
Here's Thompson's proposal (italics are his, not ours):
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The Golden Rule
This writer has been saying for seven years that violent video games can be "murder simulators" that incite as well as train some obsessive teen players to be violent.
I've been on 60 Minutes and in Reader's Digest this year explaining how an Alabama teen, with no criminal record, shot two policemen and a dispatcher in their heads and fled in a police car--a scenario he rehearsed for hundreds of hours on Take-Two/Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto video games.
I have sat with boys in jail cells, their lives over because of murder convictions, after they, with no history of violence, have killed innocents while in a dreamlike state. Said one cop who investigated such a murder in Grand Rapids, Michigan: "The killing was like an extension of the game."
The video game industry, through its lawyers, its spokesmen, and its head lobbyist, Doug Lowenstein, the president of the Entertainment Software Association, all say it is utter nonsense to suggest that what is dumped into a kid's head hour after hour, day after day, year after year, could possibly have behavioral consequences. Cigarette ads can persuade kids to smoke, but interactive simulators in which these same kids punch, hack, bludgeon, and maim affect not a wit their attitudes and behaviors, notwithstanding the findings of the American Psychological Association, published in August 2005.
The video game industry says Sticks and stones can break my bones, but games can never hurt me. Fine. I have a modest proposal for the video game industry. I'll write a check for $10,000 to the favorite charity of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc's chairman, Paul Eibeler - a man Bernard Goldberg ranks as #43 in his book 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America - if any video game company will create, manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006 like the following:
Osaki Kim is the father of a high school boy beaten to death with a baseball bat by a 14-year-old gamer. The killer obsessively played a violent video game in which one of the favored ways of killing is with a bat. The opening scene, before the interactive game play begins, is the Los Angeles courtroom in which the killer is sentenced "only" to life in prison after the judge and the jury have heard experts explain the connection between the game and the murder.
Osaki Kim (O.K.) exits the courtroom swearing revenge upon the video game industry whom he is convinced contributed to his son's murder. "Vengeance is mine, I will repay" he says. And boy, is O.K. not kidding.
O.K. is provided in his virtual reality playpen a panoply of weapons: machetes, Uzis, revolvers, shotguns, sniper rifles, Molotov cocktails, you name it. Even baseball bats. Especially baseball bats.
O.K. first hops a plane from LAX to New York to reach the Long Island home of the CEO of the company (Take This) that made the murder simulator on which his son's killer trained. O.K. gets "justice" by taking out this female CEO, whose name is Paula Eibel, along with her husband and kids. "An eye for an eye," says O.K., as he urinates onto the severed brain stems of the Eibel family victims, just as you do on the decapitated cops in the real video game Postal2.
O.K. then works his way, methodically back to LA by car, but on his way makes a stop at the Philadelphia law firm of Blank, Stare and goes floor by floor to wipe out the lawyers who protect Take This in its wrongful death law suits. "So sue me" O.K. spits, with singer Jackson Brown's 1980's hit Lawyers in Love blaring.
With the FBI now after him, O.K. keeps moving westward, shooting up high-tech video arcades called GameWerks. "Game over," O.K. laughs.
Of course, O.K. makes the obligatory runs to virtual versions of brick and mortar retailers Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, and Wal-Mart to steal supplies and bludgeon store managers and cash register clerks. "You should have checked kids' IDs!"
O.K. pushes on to Los Angeles. He must get there by May 10, 2006. That is the beginning of "E3" -- the Electronic Entertainment Expo -- the Super Bowl of the video game industry. O.K. must get to E3 to massacre all the video game industry execs with one final, monstrously delicious rampage.
How about it, video game industry? I've got the check and you've got the tech. It's all a fantasy, right? No harm can come from such a game, right? Go ahead, video game moguls. Target yourselves as you target others. I dare you.
Jack Thompson is a Miami lawyer who has for 18 years been involved in efforts to stop the marketing of adult entertainment to minors.
Chris in Cali
10-12-2005, 06:08 PM
Dude, this guy is demented. What a nutjob, he seriously needs help.
guardian_owl
10-12-2005, 06:25 PM
Man, that guy has really lost it, he must just be mad that his name fell from the news so quickly after his last act of stupidity.
Morpheus
10-12-2005, 06:31 PM
I think his father touched him when he was young and his mother didn't give him any hugs. He's just looking for a way to vent his internal problems and seems like gaming is his victim. :D
MaxBiaggi2
10-12-2005, 06:31 PM
What a nutjob, he seriously needs help.
He's just another opportunist who wants to get his name in the papers to build brand recognition for his two-bit law firm. If we all just ignore him for a while, maybe he'll shut up and go away. :D
theq87
10-12-2005, 06:31 PM
Uh, doesn't this...obliterate his credibility as a rational, competent lawyer? I mean, what's he trying to accomplish with this?
As everybody's been saying, this just appears nutty. I think he's hurting his cause. Good.
joeljermon
10-12-2005, 06:36 PM
Haha, Penny Arcade OWNED him.
You may have seen Jack’s proposal (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/violent-games/jack-thompson-offers-10k-charity-for-proposal-130254.php) mentioned on various news sites (http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5883). He’s offering 10 grand to charity if a game developer makes a game based on his insane proposal.
So I got his email address and I went ahead and sent Jack a note this morning:
10 grand is pretty weak man. Through our charity www.childsplaycharity.org (http://www.childsplaycharity.org/) gamers have given over half a million dollars in toys and cash to children’s hospitals all over the country.
I’ll let you know if he responds.
The fact is when we kick off Child’s Play 2005 on November 1st we’ll be going global. We’ll be delivering videogames and toys to children’s hospitals all over the world now. I don’t think there’s any better response to Jack’s insane ramblings than that. Maybe Jack would like to donate his 10 grand to Child’s Play, that could buy a lot of Game Boys.
-Gabe out
And on Jack's response:
My email sig had my phone number in it. Jack actually just called and screamed at me for a couple minutes. He said if I email him again I will “regret it”. What a violent man.
-Gabe out
MorPhiend
10-12-2005, 07:04 PM
Wow, this game would actually sell really well. Someone will probably do something similar...
Zoglog
10-12-2005, 07:46 PM
http://zoglog.clearlyseen.net/random/hugemanatee.jpg
guardian_owl
10-12-2005, 07:58 PM
http://zoglog.clearlyseen.net/random/hugemanatee.jpg
:rofl: Omg, so wrong, yet so funny!
Reality's Fringe
10-12-2005, 08:09 PM
I'm sure someone is already at work making this game. Everyone dislikes this man TOO much to not take him up on it. The sad fact is, however, that it won't shut him up or one up him. He's not demented or retarded; he's a sensationalist who has found a great way to make money.
RedvsBlue
10-12-2005, 08:33 PM
Well sine Jack's back in the news and crazy as ever, I figure I might as well post Ctrl-Alt-Del's version of Jack's childhood:
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20050808.jpg
triforcer
10-12-2005, 08:47 PM
does that mean he'll sue himself?
camoor
10-12-2005, 09:41 PM
Can't this be construed as a physical threat to video game CEOs and the attendees at E3?
I think it's great that Governor Jeb Bush of Florida is working with this quack - first Shaivo and now this - hey Jeb go for the hatrick and you'll be the MVP of the Democratic party!
sblymnlcrymnl
10-12-2005, 10:04 PM
Saying "again" implies that he stopped at some point.
Reality's Fringe
10-12-2005, 10:08 PM
Saying "again" implies that he stopped at some point.
Aww. :sad: I was just about to point that out. That modifier makes it sound like he un-douched himself.
jlarlee
10-12-2005, 10:17 PM
Saying "again" implies that he stopped at some point.
For real the post should be Jack Thompson is being himself again.
I would actually like to see someone make this game. It could be a good move for Take-Two because they seems likes this kind of stuff. Plus when someone commits a crime aganist a video game developer and blame on the game, I like to see what Jack has to say.
Backlash
10-13-2005, 12:28 PM
Wow good idea. Spend millions of dollars creating a game, and he'll dontate 10 grand to charity! If he has 10 grand extra, he should donate it to charity anyway.
sblymnlcrymnl
10-13-2005, 01:23 PM
Good edit on that title. :lol:
Strell
10-13-2005, 01:27 PM
Zeiganfreid: we need katamari jack thompson
Zeiganfreid: oh SHIT THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
Zeiganfreid: you run over kids
BK Partisan: hahaha
Zeiganfreid: OMFG YOU ARE SQUASHING ME
Zeiganfreid: and then jack thompson chuckles evily
BK Partisan: "COLORADO STUDENT CRUSHES CLASSMATES WITH GIANT... BALL THING"
Zeiganfreid: ""COLORADO STUDENT CRUSHES CLASSMATES WITH GIANT... BALL THING...MADE OF OTHER STUDENTS!" OH THE HUMANITY
BK Partisan: but the music is pleasant
BK Partisan: so no one complains
BK Partisan: getting squashed is ok when ducks are singing "la la la la"
Zeiganfreid: You could go a World War 2 shooter Jack Thompson
Zeiganfreid: and have him run around the battlefield, defenseless
Zeiganfreid: "DID YOU PLAY VIDEO GAMES?"
Zeiganfreid: ..." DID YOU PLAY VIDEO GAMES?"
Zeiganfreid: "...WHO IN THE HELL HERE PLAYED VIDEO GAMES?!!"
BK Partisan: silly jack thompson, it 1941
Zeiganfreid: NO ITS NOT
Zeiganfreid: I AM THE KING OF SIAM
Zeiganfreid: BRING ME MY ELEPHANTS!
BK Partisan: he's lost it
BK Partisan: get one o' them crazy buckets
Strell
10-17-2005, 05:04 PM
Bump for the update.
chickenhawk
10-17-2005, 05:07 PM
:rofl: Thanks for the update. That is fucking great! Way to go Penny-Arcade!!! :lol:
:rofl: Thanks for the update. That is fucking great! Way to go Penny-Arcade!!! :lol:
Totally, grats to them. :applause:
RelentlessRolento
10-17-2005, 05:14 PM
wow... thompson needs to keep his violent behavior under check.
Reality's Fringe
10-17-2005, 05:27 PM
Man, Penny-Arcade is having a PR field day with this. Regardless, I'd rather it be in favor of them than Senior Thompson.
Dr Mario Kart
10-17-2005, 05:29 PM
since he is batshit crazy and all, he could try to sue the modders who made his game, even though it was his idea.
evanft
10-17-2005, 05:34 PM
I <3 internets.
spudypresto
10-17-2005, 05:42 PM
Gabe and Tycho rule.
willardhaven
10-17-2005, 05:47 PM
What's truly crazy is that a dimwit like JT probably has more money than I will have ever have.
TimPV3
10-17-2005, 07:10 PM
I will cry if this makes the news, tears of laughter of course. Infact, I will go as far as to tape it too.
anomynous
10-17-2005, 07:48 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/cool1337/gamerswin.jpg
I know it sucks, I did it w/ MS Paint. I dont have photoshop,but this gets the point across
FriskyTanuki
10-17-2005, 07:50 PM
It's nice to see Gabe & Tycho are class acts while Jack doesn't seem to even have the support of his word anymore.
anomynous
10-17-2005, 08:18 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/cool1337/gamerswin.jpg
I know it sucks, I did it w/ MS Paint. I dont have photoshop,but this gets the point across
good post
AlbinoNinja
10-18-2005, 12:27 AM
heh, the hilarity keeps on coming
I thought you might like to see the mail I got from Jack this afternoon:
This story is completely false and defamatory. Take it down or else.
And my reply to him:
****This is an automated response****
Thank you for contacting Penny Arcade. I’m sorry but I am simply not able to respond to all my fan mail. I want you to know that I’m glad you enjoy the comic strip and I appreciate you taking the time to mail me.
-Gabe out
Magic Pink
10-18-2005, 09:35 AM
Call me crazy, but I read what the mod does for GTA and it doesn't actually fit exactly to the game JT wanted made.
Of course, that doesn't excuse him from saying that it was all satire anyway and that he never intended to pay the money.
Dr Mario Kart
10-18-2005, 02:34 PM
Update, also on Penny Arcade front page now.
In a letter faxed to Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske (http://www.cityofseattle.net/Police/Leadership/chief.htm) (left), Thompson says, in part, "A Seattle business by the name of Penny Arcade... employs certain personnel who have decided to commence and orchestrate criminal harassment of me by various means... This company has done this because I dared to go on CBS's 60 Minutes in March and again in July to explain a wrongful death lawsuit I have brought on behalf of two police officers and a police dispatcher in Fayette, Alabama, who were shot in the head and killed by Devin Moore who obsessively trained on Grand Theft Auto: Vice City to kill them."
"As you may know, this incredibly violent Rockstar Games product is actually a 'cop-killing' murder simulator. There are a bunch of computer geeks out there who think that the video game industry has a constitutional right to paint a bullseye on your back and on your officers' backs... That is what this criminal harassment of me by Penny Arcade is all about. They're even selling an 'I Hate Jack Thompson' t-shirt, but that is just the tip of the iceberg. These idiots have been so careless as to post on their www.pennyarcade.com (http://www.pennyarcade.com) web site what they are doing regarding the harassment of me."
"I look forward to working with your fine Police Department to shut this little extortion factory down and/or arrest some of its employees."
Zoglog
10-18-2005, 02:53 PM
noes PA is down
Dr Mario Kart
10-18-2005, 03:01 PM
I bet they are getting so many hits right now thats its slowing them down. Furthermore, I didnt realize they sold I hate JT t-shirts. They are about to see a massive sales spike, if only for yesterdays highly touted charity donation.
Skelah
10-18-2005, 03:22 PM
why not a net wide hate of this guy ive barly heard of him we should have jack thomson hate on every video game website on the net hes gonna get attention regarudless he probly wanted them to make the mod just looking for an exscuse to start shit with them publicly .
This guy seems to be making his living off this just like a dirty cop when u dont see a crime go hassle someone .
chakan
10-18-2005, 03:25 PM
John B. Thompson, Attorney at Law
1172 South Dixie Hwy., Suite 111
Coral Gables, Florida 33146
305-666-4366
He's REALLY friendly on the phone
javeryh
10-18-2005, 03:26 PM
I can't believe someone so inarticulate is actually a lawyer. He's making all of us look bad (not that we need any additional help in that department).
Strell
10-18-2005, 03:26 PM
The amount of utter pwnege that Penny-Arcade is laying down on Doughboy is absolutely hysterical.
They are my heroes. They have been in that state for quite some time, but this takes them to legendary heights.
How long until this gets national attention? Maybe they'll get their own TV show and sell wang hangers to eager viewers.
Edit: Lol, chakan, is that for real? And did you call him? Makes me want to find a payphone. :)
chakan
10-18-2005, 03:32 PM
Yes, its for real.
And yes, he is really a bitter little man.
Graff^
10-18-2005, 03:40 PM
Why is his name sometimes Jack and sometimes John?
chakan
10-18-2005, 03:44 PM
Because he can't legally change it to Asshat?
Because it's short for jackass?
Strell
10-18-2005, 03:46 PM
I say we all take turns calling him.
In fact, let's set up a time sheet. We can all sign up and have assigned hours. Given that we have several late night CAGs we can do this round the clock with little overlap. And with a few hundred regular daily visitors, I'm sure we can fill up the sheet without worry.
As long as we all call from payphones or one time use cell phones, I'm sure we'll experience no legal repurcussion.
Also we can have a potluck dinner! I'll bring the lemon squares.
You too can go to sleep tonight knowing you drove a man insane(r)!
guardian_owl
10-18-2005, 03:47 PM
Just found this quote from Jack on one of the links through a joystiq article on the most recent events.
...I will say this though, the 'video game community' (what's next, 'the necromancy community'?) surely seems exercised about someone who is a 'joke' and who is accomplishing nothing. You all seem rather bothered and worried about a nonentity. God is in this battle, and I am privileged to be a foot soldier. You all should be concerned, not about me, but about Him."
http://www.livejournal.com/users/gamepolitics/107741.html
:applause: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
chakan
10-18-2005, 03:48 PM
You should know that if someone asks you not to call again, and you do, that's harrassment.
I'll bring potato salad!
megashock5
10-18-2005, 03:49 PM
John B. Thompson, Attorney at Law
1172 South Dixie Hwy., Suite 111
Coral Gables, Florida 33146
305-666-4366
He's REALLY friendly on the phone
His phone number contains the number of the beast. I thought he said God was on his side...
eldad9
10-18-2005, 03:57 PM
I really loved this quote from him:
"The Bible doesn't promote killing innocent people," Thompson said. "Grand Theft Auto does. Islam does." (...) "Islam promotes the killing of innocent people," Thompson said. "The Quran requires the infidel, whether Jew or Christian, to be killed. That's a core essence of the religion. Muhammad was a pirate who killed infidels and who advocated the killing of infidels. Not a nice guy. Osama bin Laden is in keeping with his fine tradition."
http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?id=6563
Otherguy676
10-18-2005, 04:07 PM
Governor Bush has bigger fish to fry than the video game industry. His prison system is messed up, sexual predators are on the loose ebcause he doesnt give a damn to do what he can to keep them locked up, and crime in his cities is running rampant. The last thing he needs to do is attack video games.
When it comes to Islam, Thompson has no idea what he is talking about and I hope the Muslim community sues him. There is NO SUCH THING as holy war. The whole Jihad thing is the government and political leaders controlling through religion and making things up throgh interpretation. The Chrisitan religion did the same thing when the Pope ruled Europe. The name we have for this is the "Dark Ages", where ethnic groups were slaughtere, religious intolerance reigned supreme, and the crusades happened for no damn reason.
Skelah
10-18-2005, 04:20 PM
lets be honest all the bush's are idiots and none of them can do a good enough job.
There just good at kissing old people ass looking for votes and acting like good ole boys.
bashing video games= old people votes
putting all sexual offenders to a life prison term even if its an 18 year old banging a 16 year old= old people votes
morals= 0
javeryh
10-18-2005, 04:24 PM
Why is his name sometimes Jack and sometimes John?
because jack is a nickname for john.
Noodle Pirate!
10-18-2005, 04:27 PM
I don't understand why they made it in his name. They should have contacted every media outlet that would listen to them first. Make him look bad on tv and in print and then after it has all blown up, make the donation in their name so that everyone and his mother knows what it was for.
I'm sure he will use that as a nice tax right off or something or claim it as his own for his own nefarious purposes.
Although I can't express how funny and cool it was for those guys to take the time to create that mod! I would have prefered that one of those "crazy" kids who plays gta or animal crossing finds his way to his house and beats him in the head until money pours out of his pockets.
ananag112
10-18-2005, 04:56 PM
I really loved this quote from him:
http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?id=6563
WTF? Did he really say that? I knew he was dumb...but that is beyond dumb.
Where did he get his degree BTW?
Reality's Fringe
10-18-2005, 05:09 PM
I need to find some auido/video clips of this guy. I've never actually heard him speak.
b0bx13
10-18-2005, 05:22 PM
I say we all take turns calling him.
In fact, let's set up a time sheet. We can all sign up and have assigned hours. Given that we have several late night CAGs we can do this round the clock with little overlap. And with a few hundred regular daily visitors, I'm sure we can fill up the sheet without worry.
As long as we all call from payphones or one time use cell phones, I'm sure we'll experience no legal repurcussion.
Hell, as long as you only call until he tells you not to, you're fine. It's not harassment until he says to stop calling, especially when he puts his phone number on the interwebs. And if you're worried about it, just use a calling card.
BTW, I'm all for that idea. I called him a few times earlier today, before I even saw this :lol:
Dr Mario Kart
10-18-2005, 05:29 PM
"However, it appears Thompson did neglect to send the letter to one very important party. As of 9:55 a.m. PDT, the Seattle Police Department confirmed to GameSpot that it had not received any such fax from Thompson."
woops
woops
Reading the entire article helps.
Thompson has since e-mailed GameSpot again, saying that he has fixed the URL and apparently faxed the letter, commenting, "They have it now." Thompson added, "The moral midgets like the computer geeks at Penny Arcade think that I am some sort of pixelated piñata in a game. I'm not. Gabe [the in-comic alter ego of Penny Arcade artist Krahulik] decided to go after me, and he chose the wrong target. I've been at this longer than he has."
Strell
10-18-2005, 05:33 PM
Oh man. PLEASE let's start calling him. Maybe he'll finally come to this site and attempt to get me arrested!
I AM TEH MASTARMINDS!!111
Dr Mario Kart
10-18-2005, 05:36 PM
right, I know he corrected it. But it was silly that they didnt have it before the news broke.
danny-o
10-18-2005, 05:38 PM
Mr Thompson bases his campaign pretty much against teenagers. I guess thats whom he feels comfortable arguing with or about.
twiztidjester
10-18-2005, 06:05 PM
Oh man. PLEASE let's start calling him. Maybe he'll finally come back to this site and attempt to get me arrested!
I AM TEH MASTARMINDS!!111
He came here?
Strell
10-18-2005, 06:07 PM
Err, not sure how I typed in back in there without noticing, but to my knowledge, no, he hasn't been here.
b0bx13
10-18-2005, 06:16 PM
Err, not sure how I typed in back in there without noticing, but to my knowledge, no, he hasn't been here.
...as far as we know...we better watch what we say, or we might get lawsuit'd :-$ :-#
Pancake Rabbit
10-18-2005, 06:17 PM
I need to find some auido/video clips of this guy. I've never actually heard him speak.
http://www.chatterboxgameshow.com/
They have a podcast interview with jack-o on their site. It's worth checking out. The guy is really an idiot.
ananag112
10-18-2005, 06:40 PM
Funny yet true quote from 1up.com:
the man picked a perfect target in his bid for infamy, because gamers as a breed are genetically incapable of ignoring trolls. Always have been, always will be. ~Jeremy Parish of 1up.com
nwaugh
10-18-2005, 06:46 PM
Given that every piece of correspondence I've seen by Jack has been borderline incoherent (and unprofessionally mistake-filled), I just can't understand why anyone in the media takes him seriously.
Ikohn4ever
10-18-2005, 06:49 PM
i love how he doesnt understand the 1st ammendment at all, with video games and with satire of his public image. Someone must have gotten a good person sitting next to him while taking the bar
Backlash
10-18-2005, 06:55 PM
Given that every piece of correspondence I've seen by Jack has been borderline incoherent (and unprofessionally mistake-filled), I just can't understand why anyone in the media takes him seriously.
Probably because he is saying what some people want to hear.
CYRiX
10-18-2005, 08:01 PM
Just remember this now, hes making his point look completely bad, so video games are now gaining from this!
SCORE ONE FOR VIDEO GAMES!
JT is apparently going to be on Anderson Cooper 360 tonight 7 PM EST.
Pancake Rabbit
10-18-2005, 08:17 PM
JT is apparently going to be on Anderson Cooper 360 tonight 7 PM EST.
yeah talking about blitz the league *gasps*
I hope he utters something about penny arcade just so they can grill him even more
guardian_owl
10-18-2005, 08:17 PM
http://www.chatterboxgameshow.com/
They have a podcast interview with jack-o on their site. It's worth checking out. The guy is really an idiot.
Listening to this right now: I'll give ya some of the "greatest fucks".
*At about 23:00 = Defending Grandmother suing because bought an M-rated game for her grandson.
Will update as I come across more
Pancake Rabbit
10-18-2005, 08:19 PM
Listening to this right now: I'll give ya some of the "greatest fucks".
*At about 23:00 = Defending Grandmother suing because bought an M-rated game for her grandson.
Will update as I come across more
Haha yeah there are some real gems in that interview.
Update from GS:
[UPDATE]: GameSpot once again called the Seattle Police Department to confirm receipt of Thompson's fax. As of 2:31 p.m. PDT, Kerlikowske's office still had not received any communication from Thompson.
GameSpot spoke with Khoo earlier today about Thompson's accusations. "We were really surprised that he is actually reacting this way," Khoo said. "I don't think he really realizes who Penny Arcade is and what sort of support we can rally. And where our place is in the [game] industry.
"I really don't expect him to know who we are, but I'm pretty sure he just thinks we are either just bunch of kids or someone who probably does not know what they are doing, and that he can scare off with idle threats and threats of legal actions."
As far as that goes, Khoo says that Penny Arcade, which is no stranger to Internet dust-ups and threatened legal action, isn't overly concerned with Thompson's accusations.
"I've spoken to our legal team this morning and every one of his claims that he has made is pretty ridiculous, especially given the fact that he's a public figure. His grounds for harassment, criminal harassment, is pretty silly," Khoo said. "He puts himself out there as a public figure going up against the game industry. Does he really not expect that the game industry's going to fight back?
"Maybe he really doesn't really know what he's getting himself into."
Also it looks like the segment with JT is about to come up on 360.
SpottedNigel
10-18-2005, 08:51 PM
which news channel is that?
CNN the channel, not the headline news one.
SpottedNigel
10-18-2005, 08:52 PM
ahh...cnn. nevermind
EDIT: Thanks :) didnt see your post before i found the channel
jaykrue
10-18-2005, 09:00 PM
I don't think anyone should be really surprised. I mean really, when you have the gall to call into question then Attorney General Janet Reno's sexuality (http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/outthere/otthompson.html) in a public debate by handing her a piece of paper with a multiple choice question that reads:
I, Janet Reno, am a:
1) Homosexual
2) Bisexual
3) Heterosexual
and then has extra wording to follow that says:
If you don't respond by such a date, then you will be deemed to have checked one of the first two boxes.
can anyone say this man isn't one sandwich short of a picnic? I mean, she's obviously a man. ;):lol:
Pancake Rabbit
10-18-2005, 09:03 PM
Coming up after the break...WACKO JACKO!!
turn to CNN now!!
Coming up after the break...WACKO JACKO!!
turn to CNN now!!
Yeah this looks to be pretty underwhelming unfortunately.
varsitygamer
10-18-2005, 09:07 PM
it's going to be like 2 mins long... :(
Ikohn4ever
10-18-2005, 09:08 PM
I don't think anyone should be really surprised. I mean really, when you have the gall to call into question then Attorney General Janet Reno's sexuality (http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/outthere/otthompson.html) in a public debate by handing her a piece of paper with a multiple choice question that reads:
I, Janet Reno, am a:
1) Homosexual
2) Bisexual
3) Heterosexual
and then has extra wording to follow that says:
If you don't respond by such a date, then you will be deemed to have checked one of the first two boxes.
can anyone say this man isn't one sandwich short of a picnic? I mean, she's obviously a man. ;):lol:
wow he has no tact, what an ass, I mean the game thing I can understand for being a greedy asshole, but this is a personal attack that is completely out of line. I wish she would have decked him.
Strell
10-18-2005, 09:10 PM
Oh God Anderson Cooper is a sensationalist.
"It's not touted as being sanctioned by the NFL. Which is like it being banned."
WTF. THATS BECAUSE EA IS A FUCKTARD COMPANY ASSHOLE WITH A VICE GRIP ON OFFICIAL LICENSING. It has NOTHING to do with this game and it's material.
Sigh I hate people who don't know shit about shit.
SpottedNigel
10-18-2005, 09:10 PM
...i hate TV
I learned 2 things tonight.
1) Anderson Cooper is JT's illegitimate son.
2) JT is a "videogame analyst"
RedvsBlue
10-18-2005, 09:11 PM
JACK THOMPSON is definetly a BAG OF DOUCHE
Pancake Rabbit
10-18-2005, 09:12 PM
"where as video games are normally associated with children, that is clearly not the case anymore"
yeah....no shit. thank you captain obvious.
I can't beleive I left that show on for an hour just to see a few seconds of them bashing a generic football game.
RedvsBlue
10-18-2005, 09:13 PM
Oh God Anderson Cooper is a sensationalist.
"It's not touted as being sanctioned by the NFL. Which is like it being banned."
WTF. THATS BECAUSE EA IS A FUCKTARD COMPANY ASSHOLE WITH A VICE GRIP ON OFFICIAL LICENSING. It has NOTHING to do with this game and it's material.
Sigh I hate people who don't know shit about shit.
I was thinking the same damn thing. I was just thinking way to present the whole fucking story asshole. Additionally, how is the violence in Blitz worse than the violence in Madden or HELL, any sunday afternoon football game?!?!?!
Strell
10-18-2005, 09:13 PM
It's in stores today! DON'T GO TO STORES!
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T GO TO THE STORES!
THERE COULD BE GIANT TICKS EVERYWHERE!!
Scorch
10-18-2005, 09:16 PM
THERE COULD BE GIANT TICKS EVERYWHERE!!
Indigo Prophecy is so badass.
I D 10 T
10-18-2005, 09:18 PM
Can someone stop ranting long enough to tell us what exactly happened in this show?
I didn't see it.
Strell
10-18-2005, 09:19 PM
I was referencing Lewis Black, did I somehow channel something else? (is probably going to get IP at TRU)
More on the unofficial licensing thing: Does anyone honestly think the NFL would NOT jump at the chance to to get more money from licensing, especially if it is a sensationalized game that might have fairly good sales depending on it's material? I'm sure they would think it was cool as hell, being run by detached, out of touch people who simply want as much money as they can possibly get.
Pancake Rabbit
10-18-2005, 09:25 PM
Can someone stop ranting long enough to tell us what exactly happened in this show?
I didn't see it.
Summary:
Blitz is the devil.
anomynous
10-18-2005, 09:34 PM
"where as video games are normally associated with children, that is clearly not the case anymore"
yeah....no shit. thank you captain obvious.
I can't beleive I left that show on for an hour just to see a few seconds of them bashing a generic football game.
blitz aint generic
mykevermin
10-18-2005, 09:37 PM
I was referencing Lewis Black, did I somehow channel something else? (is probably going to get IP at TRU)
More on the unofficial licensing thing: Does anyone honestly think the NFL would NOT jump at the chance to to get more money from licensing, especially if it is a sensationalized game that might have fairly good sales depending on it's material? I'm sure they would think it was cool as hell, being run by detached, out of touch people who simply want as much money as they can possibly get.
No. The NFL <3 $$$ as much (or more) than anyone else, but they also have an absurd sense of moral obligation (such that they often reify their joke moniker, the No Fun League).
They believe they have maximized their profits by going exclusive; the more, er, "controversial" elements of Blitz are reactionary to other football game developers having little other way to fight against the juggernaut that is the only licensed NFL title (and, as we saw from NFL 2K5's sales last year, a low price point and comparable/superior gameplay combined can't even compete with the brand recognition Madden has). Blitz emphasizes all the things a football game "should" have, but the NFL wants to hide.
Could they make more money by having multiple licenses? Certainly; the price war between Madden and 2K5 last year put the scare on the NFL that the opposite may happen.
Shame about Anderson Cooper; I really gained respect for him after his Katrina coverage. In the end, Jack Thompson is proof positive that you can gain public notoriety by merely being loud enough.
Technique
10-18-2005, 09:37 PM
wow. owned to the fullest.
MorPhiend
10-18-2005, 09:43 PM
Someone should summarize the whole debacle of Jack Thompson, complete with links, and forward it on over to O'Reilly. Sure, O'Reillly may not give a hoot about the videogame industry, and I'm sure he thinks that GTA is a crappy idea (as do I). But this Jack Thompson character is simply irresponsible and wreckless. The guy is a dangerous lunaticand I'm sure there is someone out there who reaches an audience of millions who would love the chance to expose someone like this...
guardian_owl
10-18-2005, 09:54 PM
Can someone stop ranting long enough to tell us what exactly happened in this show?
I didn't see it.
Cooper gave a general description about the game, how it goes farther than any other football game, the main character is voiced by Lawrence Taylor, then they played a 20 second clip of Jacko saying 50% of minors who try to buy M rated games aren't carded. I fucking hate it when newstation pull that shit, they draw people who would not normally watch the show to the show with a particular story, then put it at the end of the program as a footnote without providing any real/new information.
AlbinoNinja
10-18-2005, 09:57 PM
Someone should summarize the whole debacle of Jack Thompson, complete with links, and forward it on over to O'Reilly. Sure, O'Reillly may not give a hoot about the videogame industry, and I'm sure he thinks that GTA is a crappy idea (as do I). But this Jack Thompson character is simply irresponsible and wreckless. The guy is a dangerous lunaticand I'm sure there is someone out there who reaches an audience of millions who would love the chance to expose someone like this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29
its been done, screw the neutrality crap
guardian_owl
10-18-2005, 10:01 PM
http://www.chatterboxgameshow.com/
They have a podcast interview with jack-o on their site. It's worth checking out. The guy is really an idiot.
Finished listening to it:
The general tone is he keeps his logic matrix intact for about 20 minutes, then things start to fall apart. By the time 50 or so minutes have passed, he starts to get increasinly absurd. By the time an hour and 15 minutes comes along, you can tell his logic matrix is about to lose it, by the last 10 minutes his true nature is revealed
Here are the Jack Thompson"greatest fucks".
23:00 = Defending Grandmother suing because bought an M-rated game for her grandson.
29:00 - "Conjectures" on Bully
39:30 - What Hillary Clinton's #1 platform to run on for Presidency really is
47:00 - Jacko prophesing government intervention and why we should turn against the gaming industry
48:00 - Racism against Groundskeeper Willy's people
50:00 - Jacko vs. Free market
52:00 - Vietnam war = Violent video games
59:30 - The conspiracy between Pornagraphers and EA
1:11:10 - Call for the end of Video Game Ratings
1:13:00 - Why government should do the parent's job
1:21:00 - Jacko's true intentions are revealed
MorPhiend
10-18-2005, 10:51 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29
its been done, screw the neutrality crap
hmmm... Nice, but I'm afraid the info would need to be a bit more streamlined for someone not familiar with the situation to understand fully.
Reality's Fringe
10-19-2005, 12:11 AM
http://www.chatterboxgameshow.com/
They have a podcast interview with jack-o on their site. It's worth checking out. The guy is really an idiot.
Ah, nice. Thank you. I'll get to it when I'm in the mood to be enraged.
Dr Mario Kart
10-19-2005, 11:50 AM
Some people in the Penny-Arcade forums have launched some small, grass roots type efforts. Emailing, fax, phone, snail mail, to media and the Florida Bar Association. Things like that.
One of them just recently registered StopJackThompson.org, and is currently looking for Hosting. It would have to be serious hosting, as recent gaming media publicity have been enough to give the Penny Arcade site some hiccups.
The Gamers are many, and though they are angry, are quite unorganized and know not what exactly to do or how to do it. The effort needs a focal point. Not just people complaining on message boards.
psiufoxx2
10-19-2005, 01:19 PM
It's been posted many times before, but I'll post it again...
Jack Thompson, you sir, are an asshole:
...phone him at 305-666-4366...
AngellicLulu
10-19-2005, 01:25 PM
Has anyone else been keeping up with PennyArcade?
Jack is trying to get them arrested... it's quite amusing.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/ (http://www.pennyarcade.com)
http://www.gamepolitics.com/
Reality's Fringe
10-19-2005, 01:28 PM
Look at that picture of him. Looks like he's totally strung out or something.
wicked189
10-19-2005, 01:33 PM
Jack Thompson needs a radioactive mouthgaurd
GTmaster39
10-19-2005, 05:02 PM
Why hasent anyone tried making an assassination attempt on this dude. It would be so easy, and even if you do get life in prison, you'll still be a hero to the gaming community. :) So either way its a Win Lose Win situation. And 2 wins are better then nothing.
:: goes and fries ants with magnifine glass ::
Dr Mario Kart
10-19-2005, 06:02 PM
negative chief. One dead martyr is worth 10 live heroes. He'd be out of our face personally, but I'd be worried about the legacy of insanity he might leave behind.
vherub
10-19-2005, 06:14 PM
The comic book industry survived Herr Werthham and his "Seduction of the Innocent" and video games already made it through the trial by fire that was Mortal Kombat/Night Trap.
It won't be that many years from now where these incidents appear on some Gamespy Top 25 Events That Tried To Destroy Video Games, in which Jack might crack the Top 15.
b0bx13
10-20-2005, 01:54 AM
I just banged out a quick letter to SD's largest newspaper. Please tell me anything that you think needs to be reworded, added, taken out, whatever.
I am a journalism student at the University of South Dakota. Over the past several days, I have been following the antics of Florida lawyer, Jack Thompson.
Mr. Thompson has been quite outspoken over the last several years concerning censorship in the video game industry. His latest action of utmost concern was guaranteeing a $10,000 donation to charity, if a developer created a game showing video game players as murderers. Exactly one week later, a "mod team" created the very game, to Mr. Thompson's exactly specifications. His response? That the offer to charity was nothing more than "satire". In response, the owners of the videogame related website www.penny-arcade.com went ahead and donated the $10,000 to charity out of their own pockets.
I'm sure many agree that reneging on a deal regarding charitable organizations is a serious moral offense.
Unfortunately, this story has seen virtually no audience from the mainstream media. In fact, Mr. Thompson appeared on CNN Monday night, and proceded to blast video games as an "expert". There is an obvious need for the general public to see both sides of this man, who is trying to crusade against the multi-billion dollar industry.
I ask that the Argus Leader at leasts looks into the possibility of covering this story.
I am not knowledgable regarding how free lancing program works, but if it's possible, I would be willing to write an article myself, with no financial reward. To me, this is a story that needs to be heard by the public.
Backlash
10-20-2005, 11:06 AM
Edited for grammar. Go for it.
I am a journalism student at the University of South Dakota. Over the past several days, I have been following the antics of Florida lawyer Jack Thompson.
Mr. Thompson has been quite outspoken over the last several years concerning censorship in the video game industry. His latest action of utmost concern was guaranteeing a $10,000 donation to charity if a developer created a game showing video game players as murderers. Exactly one week later, a "mod team" created the very game, exactly to Mr. Thompson's specifications. His response? The offer to charity was nothing more than "satire." In response, the owners of the video game related website www.penny-arcade.com went ahead and donated the $10,000 to charity out of their own pockets.
I'm sure many agree that reneging on a deal regarding charitable organizations is a serious moral offense.
Unfortunately, this story has seen virtually no audience from the mainstream media. In fact, Mr. Thompson appeared on CNN Monday night and proceeded to blast video games as a self-appointed "expert." There is an obvious need for the general public to see both sides of this man, who is trying to crusade against the multi-billion dollar industry.
I ask that the Argus Leader at leasts looks into the possibility of covering this story.
I am not knowledgable regarding how your free-lancing program works, but if it's possible, I would be willing to write an article myself, with no financial reward. To me, this is a story that needs to be heard by the public.
Backlash
10-20-2005, 02:08 PM
Just saw this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/gaming/713e/
Someone should buy one and send it to Jack.
willardhaven
10-20-2005, 07:33 PM
I listened to the whole interview, I'm so lost with all of this.
I don't see how you can stop people from creating and selling violent entertainment software.
Skycaptain99
10-20-2005, 08:55 PM
If you can't supress Paintings with feces on them, Movies like "Natural Born Killers", or Black Sabbath, then by jesus golly, you can't supress games
Video Games are just as much art as Paintings, Music, Or movies. They are the creation of a mind, with immense detail and precision placed in them. Jack Thompson, is part of the lowest form of life on this planet, and that I will most certainly debate
dark54555
10-21-2005, 01:21 AM
http://csremr.blogspot.com/
seems to be a new anti-Thompson site. It's popped up on some other forums. Pretty good read.