60% of Gamestop/EB customers don't get 360 by XMAS

[amos_82]

That is right!
I was told that yesterday.
20% of 360s pre-orders will get their system on LAUNCH WEEK(not 11/22)
20% more will get them by X-mas!!
I reserved mine on August 12th, and don't get mine on LAUNCH WEEK.
Now I am out my XBOX system and games that I traded in towards my promised 360 on LAUNCH DAY!!
Customer Service employees blame everything on MICROSOFT.
They also refuse to give me my games, or CASH back so that I can wait in line a Walmart, TRU, Meijer, Best Buy, etc...

[amos_82]

EBGAMES CUSTOMER SERVICE #1-800-800-5166
Call and vent, or demand your money and games back.
Please post your luck or dissatisfaction here!!

[chakan]

Wow, that really sucks. I'd like to hear from more EB preorderers, to be sure your local EB isn't fucking with you.

[Kuma]

Well really it isnt their fault, they cant get them in. I do feel for you not getting your money back

[Scorch]

Not EB's fault. Microsoft DID cut the shipping numbers on launch day/week from 850,000 to 400,000-450,000. There is an extreme shortage. My Rhino is only getting 5, my Wal-Mart is only getting 20.

Lucky for me, I went down the day after E3 and preordered it, i'm one of the top five.. i'll have a system on the first hour of the first night.. right out of the first box!

[amos_82]

That is only as long as they don't decide to just sell to those who have FULL PAID reserves or the first come first serve. Don't forget, you know employee normally get in on it before everyone else at big box stores.

[Scorch]

That is only as long as they don't decide to just sell to those who have FULL PAID reserves or the first come first serve. Don't forget, you know employee normally get in on it before everyone else at big box stores.

:roll: Boy, you can tell you've never worked at a game store before. Cripes, do you have a personal vendetta against EB or what? Employees get on the list just like everyone else. Want to know why they're in on it first? Because they're smart like I am and don't wait until two months before the system launches to preorder it, they preorder back in May, just like I did. So yes, employees get it first, because they preordered before you. If EB is going in order of reservation time (which mine is), you have no one to blame on launch day when you come up empty handed except yourself.

[Scahom1]

Thank God I got out of that company. I couldn't take another system launch. PSP was bad enough. I don't need to hear every pissed off parent or gamer blame me for not getting their XBOX 360 on time, even though we pushed them to preorder and trade in their games (including their old XBOX).

[Jeoff]

Wow that sucks they should give you your money back if you want it. If I want one I'll just camp Wal-Mart.

[Scahom1]

:roll: Boy, you can tell you've never worked at a game store before. Cripes, do you have a personal vendetta against EB or what? Employees get on the list just like everyone else. Want to know why they're in on it first? Because they're smart like I am and don't wait until two months before the system launches to preorder it, they preorder back in May, just like I did. So yes, employees get it first, because they preordered before you. If EB is going in order of reservation time (which mine is), you have no one to blame on launch day when you come up empty handed except yourself.

Finally someone who see's the light! Employee's get no special treatment when it comes to these system launches. The company could care less if you work for them, all they care about is the money.

[Scorch]

Wow that sucks they should give you your money back if you want it. If I want one I'll just camp Wal-Mart.

I recommend showing up at 5PM.. two of my friends that work at one are starting a line at 5 the night before launch.. good luck, I don't think that Wal-Mart stores are getting many in.


Finally someone who see's the light! Employee's get no special treatment when it comes to these system launches. The company could care less if you work for them, all they care about is the money.

I'm not sure why people seem to think that employees get special treatment, especially at launches. Aside from getting paid to talk about games and the employee discount, the only perk to working at a gamestore is first dibs on things that are traded in.

[Machikunas]

Everyone who says EB is completely innocent in this mess is full of shit. I know it's not their fault they're not getting as many systems as they were originally told, but if you gave them money or trades or whatever, with the promise of getting a system on launch day, they sure as hell should be giving you your money back so you can go and try elsewhere.

[Scahom1]

Everyone who says EB is completely innocent in this mess is full of shit. I know it's not their fault they're not getting as many systems as they were originally told, but if you gave them money or trades or whatever, with the promise of getting a system on launch day, they sure as hell should be giving you your money back so you can go and try elsewhere.

Getting a deposit back is no problem if you paid cash...if you traded games on the other hand, that will be a roadblock. Most likely you're only looking at store credit.

[Skelah]

Theres realy no exscuse they shouldnt be taking pre orders on games or systems that they dont have accounted for in a contract with microsoft.


If microsoft backs out then gamestop/eb should be able to sue them .

Gamestop/eb bad buisness tactics? big suprise
go stand outfront of there store with a sign and protest if it means that much to you when you explain why your there people will actualy listen to this.

They should be giving refunds at very least.

[Scorch]

Everyone who says EB is completely innocent in this mess is full of shit. I know it's not their fault they're not getting as many systems as they were originally told, but if you gave them money or trades or whatever, with the promise of getting a system on launch day, they sure as hell should be giving you your money back so you can go and try elsewhere.

The way he worded his OP, I think that he traded in games and used that credit towards the 360. He now wants either the games back or the amount of credit in cash. If you paid with cash, you can always cancel your preorder and get your money back, but if you used store credit on it, the only option there would be would be to cancel the preorder and use the credit for something in the store.. unless there was a bonus promotion geared specifically for the 360 (such as 'Trade in X number of games and get an extra $10 bonus in credit).. if that's the case, you're screwed.

[guardian_owl]

Well any bets what will be the average ebay auction closing price for premium Xbox 360s come mid-December?

[Machikunas]

Getting a deposit back is no problem if you paid cash...if you traded games on the other hand, that will be a roadblock. Most likely you're only looking at store credit.


Which really sucks if the only reason you traded your stuff in was for the 360. They certainly SHOULD be giving people cash refunds to go buy their systems elsewhere. If they sold you something before they knew "for sure" they were getting them, then they owe you. If it was Microsoft breaking a contract, then EB still owes you and Microsoft owes EB.

[Scahom1]

Well any bets what will be the average ebay auction closing price for premium Xbox 360s come mid-December?

I smell a CAG Booking Thread in the making! ;)

[Machikunas]

I smell a CAG Booking Thread in the making! ;)

That'd be a fun one.

[amos_82]

Someone should send that to CheapyD!!

[alonzomourning23]

I think if you were told you were guaranteed a system on launch day, and that's why you traded your games in, then you may have a case for a cash or game (not really practical) refund. But it all depends on the wording of whatever you signed.

[Scorch]

Someone should send that to CheapyD!!

What? Send what? No one's doing anything wrong.

//edit: Geez alonzo, sig big enough?

[guardian_owl]

What? Send what? No one's doing anything wrong.

//edit: Geez alonzo, sig big enough?
I think the poster meant send that suggestion for a bet to the CheapyD to make a post in the bookie forum. Of course the main problem with that is, how do you easily determine what the average price is?

[tenzor]

OP, who told you about this shortage? I work at a store over here in socal, and have not heard of such thing (about the 60% not getting a XBOX360 for launch etc). However I guess if Microsoft did cut the numbers down of units being produced then it is prob true.

[Graystone]

I think that the initial small release shipments are their just to create more hype. M$ is going to have enough. I however am not worried about getting one. Cheapy said it perfectly in one of the CAGcasts. Their is nothing coming out on release that makes me go wooooo.

[wubb]

I just have this image in my head of walking past a long line at EB on my way to Wal-Mart where they have a stack of 360s waiting to be sold. I'll probably go to a few places on the 22nd just to see for myself it it's impossible to find around here or not. I live within a mile of 10+ stores that carry games.

[bostonfrontier]

Microsoft is doing that on purpose to make everyone get hyped up about the Xbox 360....... too bad for them the PS2 and its enomous library of games is around to stop them.

Also, Dragon Quest VIII is being released the same day so I have plenty to keep be busy

[jetblac]

I didn't get a preorder in anywhere. I was trying to use my gamerush credits and missed out. they're not getting their full shipment anyway.
Anyway... now that 360 is short on stock, Sony needs to give a release date for ps3. If I can't get a 360 by Xmas, I could easily hold out till march, maybe even July, for a PS3

[Quackzilla]

I just have this image in my head of walking past a long line at EB on my way to Wal-Mart where they have a stack of 360s waiting to be sold.
Quoted for truth.

[guardian_owl]

I just have this image in my head of walking past a long line at EB on my way to Wal-Mart where they have a stack of 360s waiting to be sold. I'll probably go to a few places on the 22nd just to see for myself it it's impossible to find around here or not. I live within a mile of 10+ stores that carry games.
Ah yes, but a stack of what kind of Xbox 360s? Wal-mart's clientele is about low price, not necessarily value in multipacks. I imagine they have hedged their bets with the core Xbox 360 system, and then only a few of the premium bundles.

[help1]

OH bu who, yuo wont get your buggy console the day is coems out... but you did pay for it in advance so you should be compensated with like 20 bucks off

[Kuma]

Well any bets what will be the average ebay auction closing price for premium Xbox 360s come mid-December?

Thanks for the idea

[MrMaddness]

I like how nobody is questioning where he heard this news.

First off, I work at a Gamestop, and we still have NO idea how many systems we are getting. If anyone tells you otherwise, theyre lying.

[Apossum]

I like how nobody is questioning where he heard this news.

First off, I work at a Gamestop, and we still have NO idea how many systems we are getting. If anyone tells you otherwise, theyre lying.

i'm wondering how much of this is just internet rumor (as scorch isn't the only one saying this) but still, it makes me a bit uneasy. Just means I'll have to line up at 4pm at best buy, like the dork i am, and suffer from frostbyte, hypothermia, starvation, dehydration and possibly a burst bladder.

Meanwhile, over at my local TRU, they have a reservation book filled with 60 no-down-payment reservations on 360s and the clerk is like "yeah, everybody is guaranteed one!" I kinda mumbled "yeah, right" then put myself down as #61, just in case. :lol:

[LinkinPrime]

I called my GS a couple days ago and they said that everyone that preordered before cutoff was guaranteed their unit(s) on launch day. Don't know if they're just saying that to stop angry calls or what.

I'm glad I preorded at GR as well. At least there I should be guaranteed one. I was number 7 on their list and I believe they will only be receiving 30-40.

[wubb]

Ah yes, but a stack of what kind of Xbox 360s? Wal-mart's clientele is about low price, not necessarily value in multipacks. I imagine they have hedged their bets with the core Xbox 360 system, and then only a few of the premium bundles.

Things I've read have said MS is producing a much larger share of the premium bundle for the initial shipment. (80-90% IIRC) But I could definitely see Wal-Mart being a place to go with a larger portion of basic bundles than the typical store. Still if it is sold out everywhere but Wal-Mart w/ a stack of basic bundles, you can get that and spend an extra $100 on the HDD or whatever on a mem card and at least have your system. Much better than getting gouged on eBay if 360s are in fact hard to find.

[rvdrock]

Found out today, we are only getting 20 for launch and we have 77 pre orders total

[Scahom1]

I think that the initial small release shipments are their just to create more hype. M$ is going to have enough. I however am not worried about getting one. Cheapy said it perfectly in one of the CAGcasts. Their is nothing coming out on release that makes me go wooooo.

Since when was a system launch ever so great? N64 had 3 games. PS2 had a fireworks game, some crappy rpg's, SSX and Madden if I'm not mistaken. Gamecube had Luigi's Mansion, I could go on and on.

XB 360 has the best launch in recent memory IMO. Call of Duty 2, Project Gotham 3, Perfect Dark Zero, and enough sports games for everybody.

[Reality's Fringe]

Found out today, we are only getting 20 for launch and we have 77 pre orders total
You're going to have 57 angry shoppers blaming you directly. God, I hated launch days for anything big name.

[CappyCobra]

I'm not surprized. I don't see the point of pre-ordering any system. Most launches are 1) Overpriced 2) no selection 3) no availability 4) No point to get it first day as I have a stack of games still left to open. The last launch I got wood for was Dreamcast

[amos_82]

Just call ebgames store #3278 today. They are getting only getting 10 for launch day, but have almost 50 reserves. They also let slip that some stores have more than 5 times as many reserves as they will get on launch day. That sound worse than I thought. RDVrock also has reported some low shipment numbers!! (20 out of 77)

[neudog]

Pre orders suck! Nothing is guranteed that is why so many company's have to compinsate for putting faith in preorder numbers. I know not everyone can stand in line and wait on launch day for a system that is why preorders are so popular. In my opinion everyone should boycott preorders. Everytime an annoying sales person tries to "sale" a preorder to me I cut them off before they can finish their statement. Granted a preorder gurantees you the game/system, but while you're waiting for yours thousands have already picked up one at another retailer. Along with getting the item later than others once you preorder you're locked in, no refunds as the OP has stated. Just another greedy way retailers f**k you. Good luck to everyone trying to obtain a 360 on launch.

DOWN WITH PREORDERS! DOWN WITH PREORDERS! DOWN WITH PREORDERS! DOWN WITH PREORDERS! DOWN WITH PREORDERS! DOWN WITH PREORDERS! DOWN WITH PREORDERS!

[vietgurl]

I work for EB and I preordered before the cutoff. I'm not getting a system at launch :-(

[Zing]

OMGZ preorder Halo 2 today! dude seriously, this game is going to be impossible to find!! You have zero chance of getting it if you don't preorder RIGHT THIS MILLISECOND! Everywhere will be SOLD OUT!!1

Everyone remember that? ;)

[Zing]

Since when was a system launch ever so great? N64 had 3 games.

You just reminded me of how insanely fun and awesome those 3 games were. Mario 64, Waverace and Pilotwings. I bought the system and those 3 games on release day (without pre-ordering). I seriously played just those 3 games for months. I don't really recall there being many other games worth buying in the year I had the N64.

[coolcps]

You just reminded me of how insanely fun and awesome those 3 games were. Mario 64, Waverace and Pilotwings. I bought the system and those 3 games on release day (without pre-ordering). I seriously played just those 3 games for months. I don't really recall there being many other games worth buying in the year I had the N64.

yea id take 3 games of that calibur over 10-20 shitty games anyday.

[rvdrock]

You're going to have 57 angry shoppers blaming you directly. God, I hated launch days for anything big name.


Here's the deal, a good bit of these people know that they are on second shipment. And, I am not working the release...cuz I am one of the few employees not getting one, so if there is a midnight release...I will be at home playing my XBOX...

[rvdrock]

OK to clarify...no one actually thought that all 77 people were going to get their 360s on launch, I work at a strip mall store...but i was thinking at least 30 or so. Oh well, they aren't blaming me thats for sure...

[Scorch]

Just confirmed that i will have my 360 on launch day..

better bring a gun or get some armed officers of the law to escort me out..

[jousley]

One of my best friends is the manager at the local EBgames and called me the other day cursing me out. He said that there was 50 names on the preorder list for the 360 before they were told to stop taking them. He said I was number 8 and he was number 27..and they are only getting in 16 systems. For some reason Im STILL wondering if Ill get mine.

[Dagnabbit]

That's what happens when you reserve a system 2 months before it comes out.

[imperium]

I reserved my 360 sometime in late May at Gamestop and still only made the second shipment. I missed the 40 unit cutoff by a few days. I didn’t even worry about it at the time since I figured the 1st shipment guarantee would be very conservative and that MS wouldn’t have any problems supplying just about all of the reserves.

My local Gamestop hasn’t or won’t tell me how many units they expect but I’m not optimistic. I guess I’ll try Walmart or BB if they have a midnight opening.

[Roufuss]

A part of me wants to buy this just because I have easy access to one and can easily buy it on launch day.

[Apossum]

I'm confused........where did these percentages come from.....and about these supposedly shitty launch games? :-P

oh well, i'll be in line, bright and early

[rocksolidaudio]

i can tell you that as of today there has been no national EB letter or e-mail regarding launch shipments. this is all here-say...

[amos_82]

I got done talking to a District Manager for EB/Gamestop about getting a refund.
If your deposit was using a credit card we will refund the amount back to the card.
If your deposit was cash(and under $150), we will give you cash if we have extra in our register at the time.
If your deposit was cash(and over $150), we will have you fill out a piece of paper and offices will mail you a check in 7 to 10 business days.
If your deposit was trade-in, you get trade-in credit only.
If your deposit was a combination, you get it back according to the ways I said.

I guess I will be selling an EB edge on Ebay a week before the launch so that I can wait in line with everyone else at Walmart or Target!!

[Kaijufan]

Maybe next time Microsoft wont have simultaneous worldwide launches of their videogame hardware.
How stupid are they? Why have the Xbox 360 come out within a two week timeframe in North America, Europe, and Japan when you don't have nearly enough product? :roll:

[Roufuss]

Maybe next time Microsoft wont have simultaneous worldwide launches of their videogame hardware.
How stupid are they? Why have the Xbox 360 come out within a two week timeframe in North America, Europe, and Japan when you don't have nearly enough product? :roll:

Not only that, but why even care about Japan right now anyways?

If anything, launch it over there after the US / Europe markets are done. Dosen't Japan hate the Xbox anyways? They might as well send those units that will just rot on their shelves over to the US, where they will actually sell.

[rocksolidaudio]

Maybe next time Microsoft wont have simultaneous worldwide launches of their videogame hardware.
How stupid are they? Why have the Xbox 360 come out within a two week timeframe in North America, Europe, and Japan when you don't have nearly enough product? :roll:

well, they're selling it all either way, and trying to please as many regions as possible. makes sense to me.

[Apossum]

solution: fill all 6 pre-orders in japan, send the rest to US. done.

[GizmoGC]

Glad Im not getting one of these on Launch day. As much as I love my Xbox, there is not enough decent titles to warrant a pruchase from me.

[Pookymeister]

i wonder where freexb0x360s.com will get theirs from ;p

[FaintDeftone]

Ah crap, I preordered at EB. Though on three different occasions, they told me I'm guarenteed one at launch each time. Though a few times they seemed a bit unsure. The last confirmation was about three weeks ago though. I preordered in the beginning of September when they still had core spots left. So if this is true, I'll definitely be screwed until 2006.

[ZForce]

I have my XBox paid in full except for tax. The EB I go to only did 24 preorders for the first shipment. I actually wouldn't have been able to get one, but by the time I decided to go ahead and get it I went in there (while picking up DOR2) and asked if they were still taking preorders and was told that someone had just cancelled theirs like an hour prior to me coming in so I would be able to get in on it if I wanted.

[thorbahn3]

Looks like it is for reals.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1459&Itemid=2

[FaintDeftone]

I talked to a guy who works at EB today. He told me this was true, but not as extreme as the OP is making it out to be. It's more like 50% will get theirs on launch instead of 20, and the other 50% will get theirs 1-7 days after. If you weren't already told that you wouldn't get one till after xmas, then you'll get one before. Not sure if this applies to every EB though.

[HoboJoe]

That is right!
I was told that yesterday.
20% of 360s pre-orders will get their system on LAUNCH WEEK(not 11/22)
20% more will get them by X-mas!!
I reserved mine on August 12th, and don't get mine on LAUNCH WEEK.
Now I am out my XBOX system and games that I traded in towards my promised 360 on LAUNCH DAY!!
Customer Service employees blame everything on MICROSOFT.
They also refuse to give me my games, or CASH back so that I can wait in line a Walmart, TRU, Meijer, Best Buy, etc...

I highly doubt they won't give you your money back, because that would be considered fraud. Promising a product, failing to deliver and failing to refund your money is defiantely not legal.

And if you whine and bitch to the managers they might bump you up the preorder list over someone who doesn't say a word. It's worked a few times for me before.

[mmercer13]

WOnder what all this means for those of us who pre-ordered from Wal-mart.com pretty early. I got in on the 619.00 bundle. Think it will ship??

[Machikunas]

I highly doubt they won't give you your money back, because that would be considered fraud. Promising a product, failing to deliver and failing to refund your money is defiantely not legal.

And if you whine and bitch to the managers they might bump you up the preorder list over someone who doesn't say a word. It's worked a few times for me before.


a few times...... right...

[RAMSTORIA]

i totally have to figure out how to buy a premium console... ebay here i come!

[Shivanhaven]

my store went from getting 48 units to 28, its fucking lame I know.

[Maynard]

Our store went from 26 to 13, our whole staff is fighting who gets to work launch because NONE of us want to be there. Our most faithful customers are some of the 13 through 26 guys who will be waiting. I wish I could scream at Microsoft for the crap we're going to go through.

[guardian_owl]

Indeed, in the end this might just end up pissing off a lot of people and turning them away from the Xbox 360.

[Sweet Tooth]

Wow, this is really beginning to suck for even those people who preordered months ago. Im just lucky because I went to my ebgames the first day they started taking preorders. I talked to the guy yesterday and he said they too will not be getting many systems in but not for me to worry because he showed me the list and I was first.

I think my eb is just calling a few select people to the midnite sale because at first they announced to everyone that they wouldnt open at midnite and then just the other day the manager told me to drink a bunch of coffee and be there at midnite

My ebgames is staying open the whole day (10am-1am) Usually they close at 9pm but for 3 hours they are taking peoples trade ins/cash for the preorders and also setting up the 360 outside of the store for people to play

[GuilewasNK]

This is why I prefer waiting to get a system instead of dealing with pre-order clusterfucks. I never pre-ordered a system before and I never will. I hope everything works out for everyone else though. I won't be going to EB/Gamestop on launch day to pick up Dragon Quest VII. I have feeling there will be many pissed people.

[jer7583]

I think a lot of this "shortage" stuff is just rumors spread to drum up pre-orders and business at EBs and Gamestops. No stores know how many they're gettng yet. It's just employees pulling numbers outta their asses.

[Ecofreak]

I think a lot of this "shortage" stuff is just rumors spread to drum up pre-orders and business at EBs and Gamestops. No stores know how many they're gettng yet. It's just employees pulling numbers outta their asses.

I'd be inclined to agree, but didn't a number of stores stop taking pre-orders?

[Roufuss]

and also setting up the 360 outside of the store for people to play

I wonder how long it will be before someone steals it?

I know in my city, I'd give it an hour tops.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

I never trust GS or EB for launches anymore.

Mine was ordered June 2nd from Media Play. They called Friday and confirmed I wanted the 360 and not the core package, told me to come in and pre-order any games, $5 holds them, I wanted (I'm getting 8.) over the weekend which I did.

I am now guaranteed the 360 bundle, PDO, Kameo, COD 2, PGR 3, Oblivion, King Kong, Quake IV, Condemned, second wireless controller, 2 P&C's and a $20 store gift card for $984.35 including tax. All paid for in store credit.

No problems with my order. YAY ME!

[jer7583]

I'd be inclined to agree, but didn't a number of stores stop taking pre-orders?

True, but it's not like they'll stop selling the system. Demand is demand, wether it gets fulfilled or not. I think a lot of GS/EB employees just like to act like they know everything and everyone else is wrong. You'll never hear a gamestop employee say "I don't know, microsoft hasn't given us shipment numbers yet" or any statement that makes it seem like they don't know everything.

[varsitygamer]

True, but it's not like they'll stop selling the system. Demand is demand, wether it gets fulfilled or not. I think a lot of GS/EB employees just like to act like they know everything and everyone else is wrong. You'll never hear a gamestop employee say "I don't know, microsoft hasn't given us shipment numbers yet" or any statement that makes it seem like they don't know everything.

actually, that's exactly what we were saying... until they gave us numbers. and the numbers come through home office, not directly from microsoft.

[Epic Wolf]

I preordered mine 5/22(Sun) , which I believe was the 2nd/3rd day of Po's. I should be fine but knowing my luck I'll get shafted :cry:

[Scorch]

I am now guaranteed the 360 bundle, PDO, Kameo, COD 2, PGR 3, Oblivion, King Kong, Quake IV, Condemned, second wireless controller, 2 P&C's and a $20 store gift card for $984.35 including tax. All paid for in store credit.

Nice. Just a shame that PGR3 and Oblivion don't come out until December and Condemned, the one I was looking forward to the most, is now apparently 2006. I can get 5, possibly 6 games.. I have 7 prebooks at Rhino, but I was going to use two of 'em for Path of Neo and Star Wars: Battlefront.. I just wish we knew what was confirmed for launch day besides COD2, Kameo and King Kong.. people are saying that PD:Z is also pushed back until the first week of December.. no one knows what the hell's going on

[jer0009]

I just checked my PO and I'm #1 on the list!!

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Oblivion, I know, is scheduled for 12/5.

The rest by the best of my knowledge are launch day titles. Kameo and King Kong have already gone gold. I have to assume Quake IV has as well. Condemned is definitely 11/22.

[Purkeynator]

The hype machine has began. M$ knows what they are doing and everyone is playing right into their hands.

[Scorch]

Oblivion, I know, is scheduled for 12/5.

The rest by the best of my knowledge are launch day titles. Kameo and King Kong have already gone gold. I have to assume Quake IV has as well. Condemned is definitely 11/22.

PGR3 is 12/5.. Kameo, King Kong and COD2 are locked in, I don't see why Quake wouldn't be.. regarding Condemned.. I thought it was launch day, then some people said December, now magazines are saying 2006.. I'm really, really, really hoping it's a launch title. I wish Saint's Row was also a launch title, but that's now 2006.. so.. here's to hoping I'll have Condemned to hold me over!

[PittsburghAfterDark]

EB, Gamestop and Amazon all have Condemned for 11/15 or 11/22.

EB and Gamestop have PGR 3 listed as 11/22, Amazon has it listed as 12/15.

Conflicting info = lack of pre-orders.

[guessed]

I never trust GS or EB for launches anymore.

Mine was ordered June 2nd from Media Play. They called Friday and confirmed I wanted the 360 and not the core package, told me to come in and pre-order any games, $5 holds them, I wanted (I'm getting 8.) over the weekend which I did.

I am now guaranteed the 360 bundle, PDO, Kameo, COD 2, PGR 3, Oblivion, King Kong, Quake IV, Condemned, second wireless controller, 2 P&C's and a $20 store gift card for $984.35 including tax. All paid for in store credit.

No problems with my order. YAY ME!

Congrats, but I have to ask what you did to amass so much in MP credit?

[Machikunas]

Oblivion, I know, is scheduled for 12/5.



Well, now it's scheduled for next year... according to IGN:

"Oblivion has been moved from the company's first quarter, which ends in January, to its second quarter -- February through April 2006."

Check the story. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/663/663056p1.html

[rvdrock]

Our store is only getting 16, and we have 80 preorders...our mall stores are only getting 20 and they have over 150 preorders...thats just insane. And only ONE core system per store...thats BS! Good thing im waiting to get mine...

[FoeHammer]

I had a similar experience at EB. Past couple of weeks when I would go in and ask about my pre-order, I would get a response like "well my manager is not here right now and Im not sure how to check it, but when did you pre-order?" June. "Oh your on the first shipment Im sure." So of course I stopped paying it off immediately. Went in yesterday and demanded to know if I was on first shipment and if I would get one on launch and the manager said I would because they recieved a extra 8 preorder shipments and I was in. sounds fishy. Glad I only put down 150 so far, so if things dont work out Ill get another DS. Althought thats total B.S. if they wont give me a total cash refund if I wanted one.

[rvdrock]

If you paid with cash, you can get a full refund, if you paid with trade ins you can only get store credit...hope that helps...

[Roufuss]

And only ONE core system per store...thats BS! Good thing im waiting to get mine...

Good, the core system is a piece of shit, MS is doing all these people a favor.

[amos_82]

If you put down $150 in cash, they will ONLY issue a corporate check. This take normally 7 to 10 business days. I would suggest cashing in if you hope to receive the check by launch day, so that you can try to get it somewhere else.

[dobiewan]

I preordered back in May, and I got the dreaded "2nd shipment" call today. They told me it would only be 5-7 days... but I'm a bit leery of that. Is anybody else hearing the 2nd shipment will be that soon? I only put $50 down on the system, but paid off the two games I ordered. I have a friend who preordered from EB two months ago but paid it all off. It'll be interesting to see if he gets his.

[nickmad]

Scorch, where did you see Condemed in 2006.
Ive been searching online for awhile now and cant find any news/evidence..

edit - EB still has it listed to ship on 11/15/05

[amos_82]

Microsoft told buyers for EB/GS that they would be sending additional units every week to the distribution headquarters. The number of actual units could be 1,000 to 10,000. No one has any firm numbers as to the production rate of XBOX 360 systems.

[daphatty]

If you really wanted it that bad then you should have preordered sooner. You have a legitimate gripe about not getting your cash back but complaining that you might not get the system right away is simply "newbish." I ordered mine in July and even I might not get one. Oh well, that's the way it goes. (PS2, DS launch anyone?)

Besides, what's the big deal? It's not like there are an abundance of outstanding launch titles anyway...

[FaintDeftone]

I talked to my EB manager on Friday and was told I'm no longer getting one on the first day :(

He said I SHOULD be able to get one by the 2nd shipment, and I'll definitely get one before Christmas.

[Deadpool]

Suckers.

[Scorch]

Suckers.

Says the guy with three conga referrals in his signature..

[Deadpool]

Says the guy with three conga referrals in his signature..

That's actually only 2 and i've spent all of 99cents so i think that's a pretty safe investment.

[amos_82]

bump

[crawdd]

They also refuse to give me my games, or CASH back so that I can wait in line a Walmart, TRU, Meijer, Best Buy, etc...

Just do what I intend to do. Wait on line at the other store and buy your 360, but no game there, then go to GS and use the $50 stroe credit towards a game. I did the same on DS launch day.

[thorbahn3]

Here is what Peter Moore had to say.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1668&Itemid=2

[asianxcore]

that's what they get for selling pre-sales for systems before they know how many they are getting in stock.

[FaintDeftone]

You guys may wana check with your EB stores. I went up today to try to find out when they'll get another shipment. They told me they might be getting more than they originally thought. They were pretty confident that I'll still get one on launch now. Other EBs may be getting more too.