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beetlegum
10-25-2005, 12:21 PM
I went to TRU yesterday to hit this B2B1, and walked away empty handed. After doing the math, the deal just doesn't seem that great. The only new Xbox games that they had were Hulk, Ultimate Spiderman, and Brother in Arms EIB. Hulk and Spiderman have been out awhile and their value has dropped. I could easily buy these on Ebay for under 35 each which is what the retail value would come out to be.


Even worse, TRU has terrible prices on games. Prince of Persia was 29.99, as well as Jade Empire. If I grabbed these games along with Ninja Gaiden, it comes out to about 21 a piece. Not bad, but these games sell online for around those prices too. They even had Splinter Cell Chaos Theory marked at 49.99. I think that's the catch. Mark up the price on all the games and make it appear like you are getting a great deal.

Mr Unoriginal
10-25-2005, 12:24 PM
Of course it 'sucks' if you get older games that have dropped in price. It doesn't suck if you buy new games. Hard to understand? No.

hopesfall
10-25-2005, 12:26 PM
I went to TRU yesterday to hit this B2B1, and walked away empty handed. After doing the math, the deal just doesn't seem that great. The only new Xbox games that they had were Hulk, Ultimate Spiderman, and Brother in Arms EIB. Hulk and Spiderman have been out awhile and their value has dropped. I could easily buy these on Ebay for under 35 each which is what the retail value would come out to be.


Even worse, TRU has the worst prices on games. Prince of Persia was 29.99, as well as Jade Empire. If I grabbed these games along with Ninja Gaiden, it comes out to about 21 a piece. Not bad, but these games sell online for around those prices too. They even had Splinter Cell Chaos Theory marked at 49.99. I think that's the catch. Mark up the price on all the games and make it appear like you are getting a great deal.

Spiderman and Hulk haven't really been out that long, and there are a ton of games that have come out in the last month, not to mention SC 3 and RE4 on the PS2 this week. It might not be a great deal if you are the type of person to wait for a game to hit $20 before making a purchase, but I have jumped on this sale every year since 2001 and I always come away happy.

Mojimbo
10-25-2005, 12:29 PM
PS2 Viewtiful Joe
PS2 Megaman Anniversary Collection
XBX Jade Empire LE
-------
TOTAL
$20.00

yeah, this sale sucks.

cgpwns
10-25-2005, 12:32 PM
I got the new Fire Emblem, Geist, and Star Fox. I wanted the new Spiderman and the Marvel Vs. Imperfects, but I know that they will be cheaper a lot sooner than the games I got.

AfroPig
10-25-2005, 12:33 PM
This deal is very worth it if you plan on getting games like Digital Devil Saga and the likes...other than that, the games will drop in price sooner or later, but if you want the games to play right now (not saying that you do), then why not go for it?

Admiral Ackbar
10-25-2005, 12:34 PM
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BLASPHEMER

Number83
10-25-2005, 12:35 PM
Here's my advice. If you don't want a game, don't buy it. You don't have to buy anything for the sake of getting in on a deal. Ultimately thats the C in CAG!

I know, easier said than done, as my purchased but not opened backlog now outnumbers my now playing or finished games.

I hate this site!!! <Not Really:bouncy: >

fatherofcaitlyn
10-25-2005, 12:36 PM
PS2 Viewtiful Joe
PS2 Megaman Anniversary Collection
XBX Jade Empire LE
-------
TOTAL
$20.00

yeah, this sale sucks.

Was that using the Green Tag glitch?

Mojimbo
10-25-2005, 12:39 PM
yah, jade empire doesn't drop until thursday though.

beetlegum
10-25-2005, 12:40 PM
Spiderman and Hulk haven't really been out that long, and there are a ton of games that have come out in the last month, not to mention SC 3 and RE4 on the PS2 this week. It might not be a great deal if you are the type of person to wait for a game to hit $20 before making a purchase, but I have jumped on this sale every year since 2001 and I always come away happy.


Well, that was my first beef. Lack of new games. I wanted Serious Sam 2, Stubbs, and The Warriors. TRU seems to snub Xbox games, and give Playstation 2 the most stock.

paramount
10-25-2005, 12:41 PM
I don't see how it can suck when it is a good deal if you buy new games or old ones. If you pick up 3 new games, it's like paying $33/per game subtotal. If you get 3 older games it can be like spending $13/per game subtotal or even $7/per game subtotal. Now granted, if you purchase games that should be marked down but they haven't (like PoP or Jade Empire), yes, that isn't that great of a deal compared to other resellers. But those games are a minority. I think the disappointment from the sale comes from going to a store that just didn't have anything worth purchasing. But that is an inventory issue, not a sale issue.

b3b0p
10-25-2005, 12:43 PM
I think this deal is not that great for the newer games.

You have to spend $100 to get 3 new games (assuming $50 per game). That makes each game $33.33. However, it is almost guaranteed that most of these games will be $10, $20, or $30 someday. So, if you can just wait a bit longer, perhaps until they become best sellers you can get them cheaper then $33.33 without this sale. Of course if you pick Atlus games, it will be a good deal as it usually is fat chance they ever drop in price (assuming you don't have them already).

However, if you pick up cheaper games (perhaps the best seller types), you only have to pay $13.33 per game (assuming $20 per game). Much better deal in my opinion.

I got Mario Baseball and Fire Emblem. I bet in 3-6 months both games will be $20-$30. However, my reason is I couldn't wait and wanted them now damnit. Also, I did not have to pay for them, so I don't care. They were a gift. I would have gotten Mario Tennis, but I have a feeling that will become a best seller any day now. I did not get a third game because they did not have DDR Mario Mix.

badboysean
10-25-2005, 12:45 PM
My TRU sucks like that too. They have all the older games at full price still its ridiculous, but ahh well.

btw, this should probably be locked since its not a deal and the TRU thread is open for your comments.

Mr Unoriginal
10-25-2005, 12:45 PM
I think this deal is not that great for the newer games.

You have to spend $100 to get 3 new games (assuming $50 per game). That makes each game $33.33. However, it is almost guaranteed that most of these games will be $10, $20, or $30 someday. So, if you can just wait a bit longer, perhaps until they become best sellers you can get them cheaper then $33.33 without this sale. Of course if you pick Atlus games, it will be a good deal as it usually is fat chance they ever drop in price (assuming you don't have them already).

However, if you pick up cheaper games (perhaps the best seller types), you only have to pay $13.33 per game (assuming $20 per game). Much better deal in my opinion.

I got Mario Baseball and Fire Emblem. I bet in 3-6 months both games will be $20-$30. However, my reason is I couldn't wait and wanted them now damnit. Also, I did not have to pay for them, so I don't care. They were a gift. I would have gotten Mario Tennis, but I have a feeling that will become a best seller any day now. I did not get a third game because they did not have DDR Mario Mix.

WTF kind of logic is this? Because something will probably drop in price at some undetermined time it is not worth buying now? If you were going to buy 3 games for $50 anyway, then this is a great deal.

Reality's Fringe
10-25-2005, 12:45 PM
It's pretty good if you want to buy some budget tiles, or some of the better Greentag games out there. I got Silent Hill 3 , Xenosaga 2, and Kingdom Hearts (which I have never played) for about $10 each after it was all said and done. Considering the price of a rental at Blockbuster now is 8.55 around here after tax, I'd say it's a good deal.

Number83
10-25-2005, 12:46 PM
I got Mario Baseball and Fire Emblem. I bet in 3-6 months both games will be $20-$30. However, my reason is I couldn't wait and wanted them now damnit. Also, I did not have to pay for them, so I don't care. They were a gift. I would have gotten Mario Tennis, but I have a feeling that will become a best seller any day now. I did not get a third game because they did not have DDR Mario Mix.

You may be right, but the first party Nintendo games tend to stay higher, longer. And like you said, you gotta have it, why should we deprive ourselves of these great games?

Isn't happiness worth it?

jaybird
10-25-2005, 12:48 PM
Methinks the deal is good - it is your TRU that sucks.

zymase
10-25-2005, 12:49 PM
The sale is set to go until 10/29, which means Soul Calibur III and Resident Evil 4 (both PS2) will be eligible (at B&M since SC3 is $49.99 and RE4 $39.99 and the website is ridiculous)... leaving a good freebie like Fire Emblem for GCN, Shadow of the Colossus for PS2.

BackInBlack
10-25-2005, 12:54 PM
3 40 dollar games is gona be like 26.66. Not bad if u want to get RE4,SotC and something else. Pretty good for some great new games in my opinion, especially since they wont drop before this year and if u want them now why wait so long?

DuelLadyS
10-25-2005, 01:08 PM
I think this deal is not that great for the newer games.

You have to spend $100 to get 3 new games (assuming $50 per game). That makes each game $33.33. However, it is almost guaranteed that most of these games will be $10, $20, or $30 someday. So, if you can just wait a bit longer, perhaps until they become best sellers you can get them cheaper then $33.33 without this sale. Of course if you pick Atlus games, it will be a good deal as it usually is fat chance they ever drop in price (assuming you don't have them already).


Sure, you can get them cheaper... but you have to wait to do it. By that logic we should just all wait till the new systems are 30 years old and games cost 2-3 dollars at most like Atari 2600 carts do now. It's that delicate balance of How Much I Will Spend vs. How Long I Can Wait.

If you want 3 new release games, and you want them now, this is a very nice sale. I don't have 3 new games I must buy right now, so I won't be visiting TRU. (I am debating on taking that 15% off any game coupon for Fred Meyer I ripped out of the paper at work, and buying Shadow of the Colossus. Cuz I know I want that!)

hopesfall
10-25-2005, 01:11 PM
I think this deal is not that great for the newer games.

You have to spend $100 to get 3 new games (assuming $50 per game). That makes each game $33.33. However, it is almost guaranteed that most of these games will be $10, $20, or $30 someday. So, if you can just wait a bit longer, perhaps until they become best sellers you can get them cheaper then $33.33 without this sale. Of course if you pick Atlus games, it will be a good deal as it usually is fat chance they ever drop in price (assuming you don't have them already).

However, if you pick up cheaper games (perhaps the best seller types), you only have to pay $13.33 per game (assuming $20 per game). Much better deal in my opinion.

I got Mario Baseball and Fire Emblem. I bet in 3-6 months both games will be $20-$30. However, my reason is I couldn't wait and wanted them now damnit. Also, I did not have to pay for them, so I don't care. They were a gift. I would have gotten Mario Tennis, but I have a feeling that will become a best seller any day now. I did not get a third game because they did not have DDR Mario Mix.

Wait, did I read this right? You are saying that you passed up on a 3rd game, which would have been free? Interesting...

b3b0p
10-25-2005, 01:19 PM
You may be right, but the first party Nintendo games tend to stay higher, longer. And like you said, you gotta have it, why should we deprive ourselves of these great games?

Isn't happiness worth it?

Of course. If you are a fan of the Nintendo games like me, then paying the $50 ($33.33 our case) to get them earlier is not a big deal. However, if you have a back log of games and can wait, the games will eventually be less then the $33.33 without the sale. So why waste the sale on games that will be less without the sale eventually?


WTF kind of logic is this? Because something will probably drop in price at some undetermined time it is not worth buying now? If you were going to buy 3 games for $50 anyway, then this is a great deal.

Who said one was going to buy them at $50 anyway. I said, if you don't have a large desire to play/own the games now (or can just simply wait), then you can get them for less then the $33.33 without the sale even. It is called patience.

$33.33 per game does not sound like a good deal. Hell, even Fry's will sell brand new games near this price. $13.33 per game is much more intriguing, especially when you have been wanting them and they are actually worth playing. Having to spend $99.98 + tax to get a deal is not a good deal.

Patience pays.

b3b0p
10-25-2005, 01:25 PM
Wait, did I read this right? You are saying that you passed up on a 3rd game, which would have been free? Interesting...

No, I am not that stupid. Like I said, these were a gift. My mom was in town (she is doing an internship out of the state, so I rarely ever see her) and we went to Toys R us because she wanted to get Dance Dance Revolution (because someone, not me, lost her original Playstation copy which she so much desires over these new fancy complicated ones, anyway...). The 3rd game was some big ole box with Dance Dance Revolution game and pad.

soulwish2003
10-25-2005, 01:41 PM
Methinks the deal is good - it is your TRU that sucks.

Agree...

b3b0p
10-25-2005, 01:47 PM
Sure, you can get them cheaper... but you have to wait to do it. By that logic we should just all wait till the new systems are 30 years old and games cost 2-3 dollars at most like Atari 2600 carts do now. It's that delicate balance of How Much I Will Spend vs. How Long I Can Wait.

If you want 3 new release games, and you want them now, this is a very nice sale. I don't have 3 new games I must buy right now, so I won't be visiting TRU. (I am debating on taking that 15% off any game coupon for Fred Meyer I ripped out of the paper at work, and buying Shadow of the Colossus. Cuz I know I want that!)

WTF?! No one is going to use the logic of waiting 30 years. And that is not what I was trying to say.

This sale depends on the games you buy, if you are an idiot like me and a huge Nintendo fan, buying games such as Mario Tennis, Baseball, Fire Emblem is probably not the best way to take advantage of the sale. As it is nearly guaranteed that these games will be $20 (MSRP mind you), in mere months time. If you have patience, and a large backlog of games to play, buying those types of games now is not to your benefit.

Use some logic. It is relative (to the person and the games). No one said you had to listen to (or read) mine. I just think, when we know a game will be cheaper in just months time (we are not talking years!), it is to our benefit of waiting.

I still think $33 for a brand new game (when I know it will be marked down to $20 in about 6 months) is not a super deal unless I have to have the game RIGHT NOW.

Professor Oreo
10-25-2005, 02:09 PM
Here's the math & logic I used to make this deal worthwhile.

I got a $39.99 set of three (new releases), and a &19.99 set of three (greatest hits). The "new release" set of games cost me $80 plus tax, and the "greatest hits" set cost me $40 plus tax. So I ended up with six games for $120 plus tax which averages to each game being about 20 bucks.

So the way I look at it is that I really didn't save any money on my greatest hits, but I got three new release games for 20 bucks each. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

asianxcore
10-25-2005, 02:28 PM
it's a great sale for new games. I work at TRU, so getting 3 new games that I actually want for around $30+ tax, is fine by me :)

Strider Turbulence
10-25-2005, 03:26 PM
I don't see what's with wrong with the sale assuming you find 3 games you actually intend on playing and not collecting, i.e. have it sitting pretty on your shelves.

BackInBlack
10-25-2005, 05:29 PM
Here's the math & logic I used to make this deal worthwhile.

I got a $39.99 set of three (new releases), and a &19.99 set of three (greatest hits). The "new release" set of games cost me $80 plus tax, and the "greatest hits" set cost me $40 plus tax. So I ended up with six games for $120 plus tax which averages to each game being about 20 bucks.

So the way I look at it is that I really didn't save any money on my greatest hits, but I got three new release games for 20 bucks each. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.


Well of course its gona seem cheap when you buy 3 $20 games and 3 40 dollar games and then do some crazy average to say u saved alot of money, that doesnt make any sense.

c
10-25-2005, 05:43 PM
I dunno...

Killer7 + We Love Katamari + Sonic Adventure DX + Sonic Adventure 2: Battle = $60+tax. (the Sonic games were bundled)

Sounds like a good deal to me.

Purkeynator
10-25-2005, 05:48 PM
I am only considering getting in on the deal for a few games that probably won't see a drop to $20 by looking at the history of such titles. I am considering Metal Slug 4&5 on Xbox , any of the DDR games for PS2 that are usually $30 or $40, or any of the compilations that are already $20 such as the Capcom collection or the Tom Clancy Collection on Xbox. Otherwise I can wait for a $20 price point and a $5 off GGC at Best Buy.

aoLat
10-25-2005, 05:54 PM
I dunno...

Killer7 + We Love Katamari + Sonic Adventure DX + Sonic Adventure 2: Battle = $60+tax. (the Sonic games were bundled)

Sounds like a good deal to me.

Killer 7 is in the top 10 games I've played this year. I got it for GC on release date for full price. Worth EVERY PENNY. Beautiful artwork and graphics, really cool and unique story, and the gameplay isn't bad either :wink:

Professor Oreo
10-25-2005, 07:15 PM
Well of course its gona seem cheap when you buy 3 $20 games and 3 40 dollar games and then do some crazy average to say u saved alot of money, that doesnt make any sense.

How does that not make sense? Dividing the total money spent by the number of games purchased isn't some kind of witchdoctor voodoo. Math isn't "crazy". You should look into it, you may actually need to use it one day. ;)

BackInBlack
10-25-2005, 07:18 PM
How does that not make sense? Dividing the total money spent by the number of games purchased isn't some kind of witchdoctor voodoo. Math isn't "crazy". You should look into it, you may actually need to use it one day. ;)

I said it in a sense that the average he did was crazy because it didnt save him extra money. I understand that 120 divided by 6 is 20. Yes youre much more intelligent. Thanks for insulting my intelligence.

Mr Unoriginal
10-25-2005, 07:26 PM
I said it in a sense that the average he did was crazy because it didnt save him extra money. I understand that 120 divided by 6 is 20. Yes youre much more intelligent. Thanks for insulting my intelligence.

Well, when you make it so easy...

mr ryles
10-25-2005, 07:27 PM
ya as mr. unoriginal said it only "sucks" because you are looking at crappy old games, if you see it as buying new games like SSX, and tony hawks wasteland, and getting another new game like socom 3 for free, well that can't be beat.

help1
10-25-2005, 07:33 PM
well if your ok with used games then you could buy 3 semi new games form ebgames for 100

Roufuss
10-25-2005, 07:36 PM
If this sale included PSP and DS games it would go from great to amazing, imo.

tdphillips
10-25-2005, 07:48 PM
We Love Katamari + Jak 3 + Burnout 3 + Xenosaga 2 + Capcom Classics + PoP 2 = $96 including tax.

That's a lot of gaming for under $100.

AHiddenLink
10-25-2005, 08:25 PM
And most Nintendo games don't drop terribly quickly. In fact they usually take over a year to drop. Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros are all still 30 and above and none of them are new.

This sale like anything else, is relative to what you pick. Some games won't drop fast, but those that have sequels every year and/or are horrid, will drop quickly. I myself picked up Fire Emblem, X-Men Legends II and THAW. But on the same hand I waited for this to pick up X-Men and my fiance and I'll will have a ball with it, so getting it a few months early then waiting for the 30 bucks price is kosher with me. THAW...I'll probably play this through in a week or so and beat it. Then I'll Ebay it and get more than I paid for it, by technicality. Fire Emblem probably won't drop to the 30 price range, minus an occasional sale for quite a while and myself being a fan was anxiously awaiting this sale to get it.

So it's a matter of intention and not having a backlog of games to play. The sale is working as a means to getting things I wanted early then I expect, that is all.

Blustrk98
10-25-2005, 08:35 PM
This deal is very worth it if you plan on getting games like Digital Devil Saga and the likes...other than that, the games will drop in price sooner or later, but if you want the games to play right now (not saying that you do), then why not go for it?

Which Digital Devil Saga have you seen there?

bskeillor
10-25-2005, 08:40 PM
My plan is the new Spongebob Party Game, SSX for the Cube, and Shadow of the Colossus. 3 $40 games plus I have a $10 off $50 or more coupon. Total price $23.33 for each of those games. I just got another $10 off coupon in the mail that starts Sunday, and a 20% off any item purchase except consoles. Glad I have a Toys R Us nearby....

sqyxzylyx
10-25-2005, 08:42 PM
It's just you.

ARagerCool
10-25-2005, 09:11 PM
i thought about getting battallion wars and ddr mario mix, and possibly get ssx on tour for free w/ the deal all for my cube, but then i saw the awesome price for battallion wars on play-asia, and then i found out that my friends that work at game crazy (i work at hollywood video) are probably gonna just give me their free copy of ddr mario mix that they received for store use, knowing that the pad would get torn up in a short time, so might as well put it to better use by giving it to me =P so now i just want to find a decent price ssx on tour and i shall be beyond happy, hehe

heavy liquid
10-25-2005, 09:21 PM
I'm definitely disappointed in this year's sale, compared to the last couple of years. Not only does it not include handhelds, but it seems like they're purposely holding back some of the new releases that everyone else has until after the sale. Things I would have bought:

Indigo Prophecy (XB)
Shining Force Neo
Stubbs the Zombie
Darkwatch (XB)

There's a few more that I can't think of right now. It's funny, because they had 'coming soon' boxes for a lot of them, like Darkwatch (which came out almost two months ago!)

schultzed
10-25-2005, 09:35 PM
This one is very relative. $33 is a relatively good price if there is a great game that you are dying to own. Its not a great deal if you already have a stack of games to play and the games available are not hot.

I'm passing because I can wait for any game to come down in price.

I wouldn't say the deal sucks but its not very cheap to buy new release games anyway. I'd say last year had some bigger releases. So, getting GTASA, Halo 2, and Metroid 2 for $100 near release . . . that would have been a deal.

PyroGamer
10-25-2005, 09:54 PM
It only sucks if you suck at shopping.

FriskyTanuki
10-25-2005, 10:55 PM
Who said one was going to buy them at $50 anyway. I said, if you don't have a large desire to play/own the games now (or can just simply wait), then you can get them for less then the $33.33 without the sale even. It is called patience.

$33.33 per game does not sound like a good deal. Hell, even Fry's will sell brand new games near this price. $13.33 per game is much more intriguing, especially when you have been wanting them and they are actually worth playing. Having to spend $99.98 + tax to get a deal is not a good deal.

Patience pays.
Everyone knows that getting three games for $33 a few months before they're available for a few bucks cheaper is such a horrible deal. Plus, Fry's doesn't have every new game for $35-$38, so this takes care of the others that don't get that treatment. It's a good deal to get $17 off new games that may take months to get that deal individually.

saetia
10-25-2005, 10:57 PM
My God, you're right. This deal is a joke! I got DQVIII preordered and paid off in full and $54 left in GR store credit, which is good for another new game, for $20! Wow, major suckage!