# 1 Thing i hate about video games

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

I'm dead serious on this one, if its one thing that i hate about video games its the difficulty level. I hate it so much, i even cry about it :cry:. If i buy a game , i expect the game to be challenging a little, but when they over do it and i keep trying and trying and trying to beat it , and i cant, i just get so mad and sometimes i will cry and about it and have a fit.

I just gave up on these 2 games a few hours ago:

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World racing Gets hard when doing this one mission called: Classics. What you have to do is come in 3rd place, but see here is the flaw about that. You are forced to ride a slow ass car, and its 4 other cars on the road and the first 2 cars is way faster then you , and the last 2 cars dont start to race until you hit the second lap, and half way in the second lap the last 2 cars which are super super super fast will to pass you and your mission is to keep them at bay and come in 3rd. But its impossible to do that because trying to block one car off, the other car can just slip pass you. So i'm WTF.

Toxic Grind: The levels are huge, super huge and the game starts off easy. The game plays like tony hawk or dave mirra or something, but with powerups and other goodies, and a story mode. But later in the game, the levels gets larger and the tasks that you are suppose to do becomes harder, much harder. And i just dont have the patience for it anymore, so thats it.

I just hate buying games, and once i start to enjoy the game, the game gets hard, i hate that. http://www.atozkidsstuff.com/images/sm_hi548.gif

P.S. My left side of my jaw is hurting like crazy, so it only makes matters worse.

[MrMaddness]

Too hard? If anything...games are getting to easy. It's rare to see a truly hard game (Ninja Gaiden), unless you go old school. Anytime you think a game is hard...play some old school Capcom games, Mega Man, Ghouls and Ghosts. Now dem shits was hard.

[chakan]

Kids!
Why back in my day, we had to play on a 13 inch screen, and we only had one button.

And it was good enough for us.

Whippersnappers.......(incoherent mumbling).....

[neocisco]

As far as your 2 examples go, I don't think the problem is so much the difficulty as it is the poorly designed game. To be blunt, those games are garbage. Crap games are sometimes difficult because they're just slapped together and no consideration is given to design, control, etc. Upgrade to some good, quality games and you'll be satisfied.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Well ya mega man games are always hard, thats why i dont play them hahaha. Ghouls and Ghosts is easy tho, if you talking about the genesis version. I remember this one genesis game tho, called: Kid kameleon. Now that game was hard, and here is a list of games that i had to get rid of because they was too hard:

Confidential Mission
Sega Rally 2
Sega GT
Omikron
Draconus: Cult Of The Wyrm
Spawn
Geo Matrix
Sega GT 2002
World racing
Thinking about getting rid of toxic grind
Burnout 2

Those are the ones that are too hard.

Peace.

[ogreeley]

Kids!
Why back in my day, we had to play on a 13 inch screen, and we only had one button.

And it was good enough for us.

Whippersnappers.......(incoherent mumbling).....

I played Chopper Command on a 7" B&W TV. Took a few weeks but I finally got 999,999 points. Honestly though, I don't mind hard games. It's just when the purposely put in stuff that's impossible to figure out without a guide (Majora's Mask) that bugs me.

[Darwin23]

use a cheat device. only way i can play games these days and actually enjoy them. especially on resident evil.

[humidore]

They put in a lot of "super" easy modes now don't they? Where you get more ammo/hints, etc. I don't like that really, I feel like they're babying me too much, so I set it to Hard for the 1st play through on most games I get now. Sure it takes longer, and thus stretches the dollar, but the aggravation kinda evens that postive out sometimes...

[Matt Young]

Mega Man games are easy. I can beat 1-7 in one day, no problem.

I'm actually better at old school 2D games than I am at newer, easier games. I guess it's because I had a lot of practice with those as a kid, and I have insane twitch reflexes. Newer games, while I realize most are easier, I have a hardertime with. It kind of depends on the genre, though.

[RandyTsai]

tell me about it. Ii just spent the last 30 min trying to get gold in one of the levels in burnout revenge. its frickin riduclous.

[Brak]

U2K really does loves those cheapass games. :o

[Kapwanil]

Confidential Mission
... <i>etc.</i>

Those are the ones that are too hard.

Eh, I found it difficult only if you don't really use the "uzi" method or whatnot. It's basically where you hold the gun improperly so you extend your index finger of your writing hand and place it right in front of the trigger and spam the damned thing throughout the game. It takes time to get used to but you can usually toss off around 70 or 80 shots per minute, if you're good, and once you get the rhythm of reloading down and you adjust your aim you can pretty much get through any Sega shooter from House of the Dead 2 and onward without much of a problem (er, save for the highest difficulty levels. Then you need that plus a bit of memorization).

Everything else...well, I prefer the challenge nowadays. I keep going back to Panzer Dragoon Orta time and time again because I want to nail better grades on particular stages, as brutal as they may be. Same goes for Metal Slug 3. I'm still trying to beat that one without losing a life. Coming close but I always lose one in some idiotic way either early in Stage 4 or right at the end of Stage 5.

[evanft]

Wow, you suck. Go away.

[musha666]

Too hard? If anything...games are getting to easy. It's rare to see a truly hard game (Ninja Gaiden), unless you go old school. Anytime you think a game is hard...play some old school Capcom games, Mega Man, Ghouls and Ghosts. Now dem shits was hard.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

The majority of the games out today are only challenging when you play with a friend.

Games nowadays are TOO easy.

[shipwreck]

I'd really be surprised if anyone has ever beaten Toxic Grind. As stated before, it's the poor controls and level design that make it so difficult. You could probably count the number of people that are actually able to beat Toxic Grind or Drake on one hand. From what I've played so far (and I've played a lot), those are the two most difficult games on Xbox.

[onetrackmind]

im convinced this is a fake acount, there is no way this guy is for real.

[alonzomourning23]

Mega Man 1 and 2 were easy I thought, 3 and after were beyond me. X4 is also easy, the others (though I haven't really played x5 or x7) were too hard. I also liked the shorter levels of the first 2 mega man games.

I can't comment too much though, I mostly play ps2/saturn/n64 and earlier games. I never really liked mission based games, unless they're relatively simple (as in super mario 64).

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

Confidential Mission is easy, but playing the training levels are hard, more like impossible. So if i cant beat the training missions, i see no point in playing the main mode.

Toxic Grind, i plan on playing today. I'm in this ice looking level and its madness. TG is not really hard, but it requires too much patience, which i dont have.

Also about cheating is games, well i like to play a game the way it is. I feel like if i cheat, i havent really did anything, so i rather just try to master the game the normal way.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

tell me about it. Ii just spent the last 30 min trying to get gold in one of the levels in burnout revenge. its frickin riduclous.

I traded in burnout 2 because i couldnt get the gold medal in crash mode, in this one mission called: Out of control tower. I have been trying for 2 weeks, so i was like fu** it, its gone.

[Morrigan Lover]

Ghouls and Ghosts is easy tho, if you talking about the genesis version.

I think he meant ghosts-n-goblins on the nes.

[Mr Unoriginal]

I traded in burnout 2 because i couldnt get the gold medal in crash mode, in this one mission called: Out of control tower. I have been trying for 2 weeks, so i was like fu** it, its gone.

Guess what. CAG censors fuck already. You don't need the stars. See? Fuck fuck fuck. Tada.

[zewone]

Play better games. Ones that challenge you because they are truley challenging. Not ones that are hard because they are cheap pieces of shit.

[Snake2715]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

The majority of the games out today are only challenging when you play with a friend.

Games nowadays are TOO easy.

Its funny this is alwys said... I go back and sometimes thae games I used to own kick my fricken ass. Its like the new games are making me soft.....

On top of all the hint books and gamefaqs options its a joke...

[Snake2715]

I think he meant ghosts-n-goblins on the nes.

Or super on the SNES..

[shieryda]

Did anyone even finish "Raze's Hell"? I heard that this game was truly difficult, even on the easy setting.

[rvdrock]

OP, why do you always play crap games and then bitch about them?

[worx]

im convinced this is a fake acount, there is no way this guy is for real.

I say we hire hitmen to take him out.

[onetrackmind]

I say we hire hitmen to take him out.

lets just get whoknows and apossum to do it

[Jaket]

stop playing shitty games

[Matt Young]

Mega Man 1 and 2 were easy I thought, 3 and after were beyond me. X4 is also easy, the others (though I haven't really played x5 or x7) were too hard. I also liked the shorter levels of the first 2 mega man games.

I can't comment too much though, I mostly play ps2/saturn/n64 and earlier games. I never really liked mission based games, unless they're relatively simple (as in super mario 64).


I don't know, man. I only owned 1 or 2 Mega Man games as a kid, but these days I can breeze through all of them, with aonly a few problem areas. I'm talking the NES/SNES versions, not the Anniversary Collection with autofiring.

Plenty of old school games still do give me hell, though.

[alonzomourning23]

Its funny this is alwys said... I go back and sometimes thae games I used to own kick my fricken ass. Its like the new games are making me soft.....

On top of all the hint books and gamefaqs options its a joke...

For me, I find that some games that I could only get about a quarter of the way into (king of dragons, mega man 1 or 2 etc.), if even, I can destroy now, but other games that I used to be able to get very far in (mega man 3, astyanax) or beat (Lolo, dkc) give me immense trouble now.

Also, I seem to have difficulty on some ported games. I can breeze through super mario 3, for nes, with tons of lives, but super mario advance 4 super mario 3 gives me a lot of trouble, even though I'm playing it on the same tv (using the gamecube adapter).

Though, while I probably use guides more than most on here, I don't like that you essentially have to use them now. There is so much in modern games that there is no way you'll find even half the stuff on your own (and sometimes the stuff you need to find to advance), they're essentially designed with the expectation that people will use guides.

[U2K Tha Greate$t]

I'd really be surprised if anyone has ever beaten Toxic Grind. As stated before, it's the poor controls and level design that make it so difficult. You could probably count the number of people that are actually able to beat Toxic Grind or Drake on one hand. From what I've played so far (and I've played a lot), those are the two most difficult games on Xbox.

Yo man, for the past 2 hours i have been on this one level in toxic grind and i just beat it hahahaa. OMG was it crazy, i had to do a 500 grind, that one was that the hardest, not to mention trying to get all the letters. So now i only have 3 levels left in the game, my next level is new york city.

:)

[Apossum]

lets just get whoknows and apossum to do it

i've tried. his love for bad games is too strong for me.

U2K: get a fucking game genie!

[ragtop70]

Try something good, cheap, and not hard. Try Star Wars KOTOR. If you really do cry because games are too hard, maybe you should stick with Barney and Sesame Street though.

[AlbinoNinja]

get urself a copy of ninja gaiden black, ninja dog

[neocisco]

For me, I find that some games that I could only get about a quarter of the way into (king of dragons, mega man 1 or 2 etc.), if even, I can destroy now, but other games that I used to be able to get very far in (mega man 3, astyanax) or beat (Lolo, dkc) give me immense trouble now.

Also, I seem to have difficulty on some ported games. I can breeze through super mario 3, for nes, with tons of lives, but super mario advance 4 super mario 3 gives me a lot of trouble, even though I'm playing it on the same tv (using the gamecube adapter).

Though, while I probably use guides more than most on here, I don't like that you essentially have to use them now. There is so much in modern games that there is no way you'll find even half the stuff on your own (and sometimes the stuff you need to find to advance), they're essentially designed with the expectation that people will use guides.

Or they're designed w/so much stuff to gather/find/collect that you HAVE to have to guide to complete it, thus costing you another $17. Reason #37 why I love CAG.

[Matt Young]

Or they're designed w/so much stuff to gather/find/collect that you HAVE to have to guide to complete it, thus costing you another $17. Reason #37 why I love CAG.


*PSST* GameFAQs.

[neocisco]

*PSST* GameFAQs.

You and I know that but apparently enough people buy the guides at full price to justify continue printing them. That's fine w/me, though, I'm more of a .01 man myself.:)

[Roufuss]

*PSST* GameFAQs.

The quality on GameFAQ's has really dropped in the last few years. FAQs for newer games have been very sloppily written, imo, and it seems that the quality of guides have shot up recently. Not only DoubleJump guides, but the Signature Series guides (Prima or Brady? I can't remember) are pretty nice as well.

I used to be one of those people who were like "Paying full price for guides? LOL @ U" but really, it's nice to have pictures, descriptions, and an easy to follow layout for some games like RPG's. I just bought the guide for Radiata Stories at full price, and it will be alot easier looking through that for info then some kids thrown together FAQ.

What I don't understand is how can guides for 80% of these games exist... I mean, who REALLY needs a guide for Darkwatch or Destroy All Humans?

[alonzomourning23]

You and I know that but apparently enough people buy the guides at full price to justify continue printing them. That's fine w/me, though, I'm more of a .01 man myself.:)

I like to collect the guides, but I never pay more than $5 bucks unless it's especially rare. Most of the stuff I have was either a penny or 2 bucks used at gamestop. Though I use gamefaqs a lot too, but it does have problems. You have to look through 4 or 5 different versions sometimes, since people tend to omit things. Then you have the jackasses who purposely try to ruin the store by doing things like this:

Enter the dungeon. Go right, then down, then right, then up, then left, then down, then your best friend leaves your party and says he was the one who massacred your village and runs off, then go right, then go up, then go left, then you find your best friends corpse, then go down, then go right.

Most aren't that bad, and do have at least some small separation between directions and story, though it still usually doesn't prevent you from reading the plot. What the hell is the point in putting the entire story in the guide anyway? It's almost all extra, it usually has nothing to do with the directions the guide is giving you.

Though the main advantage of print guides is they tend to include maps, which are often the most useful part in the guide.

[CappyCobra]

Play some hard games that were designed to be hard and not these trailer trash games you speak of :roll:
Try playing some 'ol skool shooters where you blink and you're dead and then bitch.

[manofpeace20]

Games are far easier in tis generation and its probably best for my sanity. I only broke one PS2 controller in the last 3 years. Thats why I play games that are beatable, but have a reasonable challenge.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Games are too hard? :-s

[Skelah]

the key to beating a game is to not overthink things..sometimes a game will become confusing cause ur trying to overthink what ur suposed to do..other than poor design relax and try diferent things eventualy it will go from hard to..horribly easy.

Basicly how all hard games end up for me I try not to play a game unless i beat it..unless its complete garbage not worth my time.

[psychobrawler]

Most replies have definately hit the mark. Well designed games that are challenging are awesome (Ninja Gaiden, Halo on Legendary, Burnouts gold's or PGR's platinums). Games that are hard because of poor design are horrendously frustrating. I just (nearly) finished Breakdown on xbox. I was OK with a few challenging battles. But getting shot during a scripted scene where I had no control over my character led to this games premature retirement...