Beggar Prince: First New Genesis Title in 8 Years!

[ckonze]

For those who don't know, Beggar Prince is a Sega Genesis RPG that was released in Japan in 1996. It has never seen a U.S. release until this coming December. I kid you not. There is a new Genesis game coming soon! At the moment, I am unsure how much these will retail for, but I honestly can't imagine them holding too hefty a tag. In fact, they may only be sold on the official website, but I would personally love to see this on store shelves. You can check this game out at www.beggarprince.com. So, for those of you CAG's who were too cheap ass to buy any of the next gen systems...your time has come!

[Pancake Rabbit]

Is this game just kind of coming out under the radar or is it actually licensed by sega and is an official genesis release?

[TimPV3]

Wow, this is something else

[BIG5]

That is crazy! Good thing I still have my Genesis, the only Sega system I ever bought.

[GuilewasNK]

Yeah, I forgot to post about this. There is an article about it in the latest Hardcore Gamer Magazine.

http://www.o-sd.com/hardcoregamermag/publicPDF/HGM5.pdf

Page 56. 3.5 out of 5. Not bad at all.

[mykevermin]

Neat!

[ckonze]

Is this game just kind of coming out under the radar or is it actually licensed by sega and is an official genesis release?

It's being published by OlderGames and being developed by C&E Inc. I'm sure it was an officially licenced Sega game when it was released in 1996 in Japan. That's all I know though. There's an article about this game in Vol. 1, Issue 5 of Hardcore Gamer.

[BIG5]

Wouldn't this make more sense as a GBA title?

[grae60]

I read about this in hardcore gamer, it made me giggle that the name of the kingdom is Shatt, you have to save the kingdom of Shatt!

[Stoneage]

I called Sonic to see if he had any comment. He said, "I'm too old for this shit."

[BIG5]

I read about this in hardcore gamer, it made me giggle that the name of the kingdom is Shatt, you have to save the kingdom of Shatt!

I think I just Shatt myself!

[GizmoGC]

Im surprised Im the first to say it, but why is this in the Video Game Deals Forum? This should be in the Old School forum.

[GuilewasNK]

I read about this in hardcore gamer, it made me giggle that the name of the kingdom is Shatt, you have to save the kingdom of Shatt!

:lol: With Meatwad in your avatar I can only read that with Meatwad's voice in mind. That makes it even funnier.

[ckonze]

Wouldn't this make more sense as a GBA title?

Possibly, but there could be a market for new games on older systems and this may be the start of that. When you consider the fact that companies like Yobo and so forth are releasing new systems that play NES games, this could be a great idea. In fact, because there are so many NES system remakes, I'll bet more people own a system (whether official or not) that plays the original NES cartridges than there are people who own a GameCube. So why not release new NES games as well. I personally would love to see some new SNES games released in the U.S. (Seiken Densetsu 3, Terranigma, Radical Dreamers, etc.). And just for the record, I've had the idea of releasing new games for older systems for years :).

[The Successful Dropout]

Yeah, I forgot to post about this. There is an article about it in the latest Hardcore Gamer Magazine.

http://www.o-sd.com/hardcoregamermag/publicPDF/HGM5.pdf

Page 56. 3.5 out of 5. Not bad at all.

yeah, that's where i read it from yesterday...pretty interesting...they're going to try and bring more over too...what's the price on this thing?

[ckonze]

Im surprised Im the first to say it, but why is this in the Video Game Deals Forum? This should be in the Old School forum.

Three reasons I stuck it here:

1. Being that this game is not the Japanese version, it's technically not "old school" since it's coming out in the future.
2. It's probably *knock on wood* going to be a cheap ass deal since it's a game that will only play on an older system. I really don't see them slapping a $50 price tag on this. I may be wrong though.
3. It encourages/supports those CAG's who are so cheap they won't shell out the money on a next gen system.

[wicked189]

wow i wonder how much it is going to cost

[GuilewasNK]

I would guess the cost would be in the $25-$30 range.

I think the reason that the game won't be released for the GBA is simply because the game is a Genesis game originally and the company may not have the means to port it to the GBA.

[dafoomie]

Cartridges weren't cheap to manufacture when they had dedicated production lines cranking them out... It certainly won't be very cheap now. It has to cost something, just to pay for manufacturing costs.

I think Super Fighter team would be happy to break even, they seem to be doing it to get publicity for their company, a development/localization company. If they don't lose their shirts doing this, its not a bad idea, now they can go to other companies and say they have games X, Y, and Z under their belt.

I think Live Arcade on XBL would also be a good venue for their games, it would certainly be cheaper. They probably didn't release it for GBA because of licensing fees... I don't think they're paying Sega any money for this.

[Prepster]

Wow, this is a really great idea. I would now love to see some new dreamcast games start showing up in the US rather than just releasing new dc games over in japan.

If this game is on the cheap side as in $20 and under I will probably purchase it.

[Photomotoz]

Hell yeah! I am totally buying this! They have to do this for all old games and systems. There is such a big market for it too.

[chosen1s]

I read about this in hardcore gamer, it made me giggle that the name of the kingdom is Shatt, you have to save the kingdom of Shatt!

This is pretty lame, but it did remind me of an old SNES game I played where you got to name your town at the beginning of the game. Being the mature young'n that I was with WAY too much exposure to Beavis and Butthead, I named my town "Dillhole".

To this day I still don't know why it's so amusing to me, but every time you walked into the town there was a guy waiting at the entrance who would say "This is our town, Dillhole!"

Obviously it was supposed to be a statement of great pride and ended up being an insult and a slap in the face to the hero who was fighting so valiantly for this little town.

Like I said, it's probably only funny to me and my sarcastically-minded friend Greg, but I still get a laugh out of that noble patriot's mindless declaration every time I think about it. :)

[secretvampire]

Pretty cool stuff, I will keep an eye on it and purchase if the price isn't ridiculous.

[XboxHardcore.com]

Haha nice. Would be cool if games were still made for the older systems. :(

[XboxHardcore.com]

Agh. double post.

[AtlusParker]

This site sure is slow on the uptake. I've known about this for months and already decided to buy it. As far as the "logic" of "since this isn't $50 it's a cheap ass deal!" that's a load of bull. It's going to be sold at it's MSRP which isn't any kind of a deal. A pack of gum costs $.25, is that a cheap ass deal? It's not $50!

[nwaugh]

Nintendo would never let this happen.

[RAMSTORIA]

i would buy it if the price isnt too high, no more than 10 bucks

[GizmoGC]

Im surprised Im the first to say it, but why is this in the Video Game Deals Forum? This should be in the Old School forum.

Scorch? Where are you....

[Zenithian Legend]

Wouldn't this make more sense as a GBA title?

Agreed, even if people still own an old system there's a decent chance that they A. don't know where it is; b. it doesn't work; c. it's not hooked up, true that isn't a major problem, but it's a minor inconvenience to have to go dig up an old system and connect it. Plus it'd be cheaper to make this as a GBA title, or perhaps to have released it on a current-gen system in a collection of some sort.

[brianmoy]

Wow, cool. Thanks for the post. I'm glad to have seen it. I'll have to buy it when its released.

I'm GLAD its not a GBA title. Nothing wrong with GBA, its just that if it was a GBA game, that means I'd have to play it on my GBA.

[Jeoff]

I'd pay up to $20 for it if I had any desire to bring my Genesis back out. Which I don't.

[cochesecochese]

Like I said, it's probably only funny to me and my sarcastically-minded friend Greg, but I still get a laugh out of that noble patriot's mindless declaration every time I think about it. :)

Shiiiiiiit. You know Greg too? Oh man oh man. We should chill with a 12 rack of Miller Lites some time, man.

[GreenMonkey]

Bad-ass

I'm watching for updates.

[GreenMonkey]

EDIT: dbl post

[Jack]

Im surprised Im the first to say it, but why is this in the Video Game Deals Forum? This should be in the Old School forum.

If it was posted in the Old School forum, it wouldn't be getting nearly as much attention as it's getting here.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56221

If I'm not mistaken, the price was posted by a member of the localization team on the Digital Press forums. I think it was either $29.99 or $39.99, I'm not sure. Their forums are down now so I can't check.

[The_Continental]

Fricken' awesome! - I'm all over this!

[Snake2715]

I will keep an eye on it for sure

[Tromack]

Wouldn't this make more sense as a GBA title?

Yes, but that would make it less hardcore and available to more people.

[ckonze]

This site sure is slow on the uptake. I've known about this for months and already decided to buy it. As far as the "logic" of "since this isn't $50 it's a cheap ass deal!" that's a load of bull. It's going to be sold at it's MSRP which isn't any kind of a deal. A pack of gum costs $.25, is that a cheap ass deal? It's not $50!

Maybe, but how many packs of gum have you seen for $50. Games presently being released for the next gen systems as well as Genesis games that were released when the Genesis was a next gen system do and did go for $50. That's where your analogy falls short.
Anyhow...I'm done trying to defend that this thread belongs in this forum. Cheapy D is well within his rights (being his site and all) to move this thread on over to the Old School forum if he feels so inclined. Until then, let's all try to stay on topic please.

[dafoomie]

Agreed, even if people still own an old system there's a decent chance that they A. don't know where it is; b. it doesn't work; c. it's not hooked up, true that isn't a major problem, but it's a minor inconvenience to have to go dig up an old system and connect it. Plus it'd be cheaper to make this as a GBA title, or perhaps to have released it on a current-gen system in a collection of some sort.
They'd have to pay licensing fees to Nintendo if they wanted to release it on the GBA, plus they'd have to port the game to the GBA. It was originally a Chinese Genesis game, they just localized it. I don't think they're paying Sega any money, and I don't think they have the capability to port it themselves to the GBA. Maybe if its moderately successful, they can find a publisher interested in bringing it to the GBA.

[Scott]

Pricing info:Beggar Prince will retail at $40.00 per copy. Each copy will consist of a high-quality color instruction manual and a professionally produced cartridge (NTSC & PAL compatible) enclosed within a plastic clam-shell case complete with color insert.Half this thread just stopped caring, I bet.

[dafoomie]

Pricing info:Half this thread just stopped caring, I bet.
Ouch... I might still have to buy it, if I think quantities are limited. If it seems like the price is going to come down at all, I'll probably wait.

[Kapwanil]

Well...if I consider that Phantasy Star 4 was selling for $99.99 at release on the Genesis at the local Toys R' Us way back when, it seems to be a reasonable price in comparison.

Still, I'll wait and see. I'm more of a gamer than a collector so the majority of the $40 is going to be going towards having something worthwhile to play and enjoy.

[badboysean]

Originally Posted by gizmogc
Im surprised Im the first to say it, but why is this in the Video Game Deals Forum? This should be in the Old School forum.


Scorch? Where are you....


lol, quoting your own reply ....

[mcgavin27]

wow, 39.99. I think I can wait then.

[Vegan]

wow, 39.99. I think I can wait then.

What, do you think you're going to find it anywhere else, for cheaper? For one of the most interesting collector's items to come along in years, I don't think $40 is that bad.

[AtlusParker]

Maybe, but how many packs of gum have you seen for $50. Games presently being released for the next gen systems as well as Genesis games that were released when the Genesis was a next gen system do and did go for $50. That's where your analogy falls short.Maybe where yours does.

Forgetting that the game is retailing for $40 which definitely does not qualify it as a "cheap ass deal", even at $20-30 it's not "cheap ass" considering it's a dead system and we get current games for current systems that retail within that price point (Both Katamari games, Phantom Dust, most GBA titles). It wasn't a "cheap ass deal" then and it most definitely isn't now. Good thing it's in the right forum now.

[GreenMonkey]

Eh

I paid $40 on the new copy of Persona 2 debacle. This is much cooler IMO

I'm watching for a release too. I expected a much (>$60) higher price.

Related news story on 1up:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143041


Beggar Prince, OlderGames' 36-meg RPG for the Sega Genesis, is an example of a game that was "lost and found" and is just seeing release now. A collection of enthusiasts called Super Fighter Team picked up the 1996 Taiwanese Genesis RPG, gave it a proper English translation, and are now publishing it through OlderGames, which handles manufacturing, distribution and the like. OlderGames splits the proceeds 50/50 with the developers.

[ckonze]

Good thing it's in the right forum now.

The most important thing is that you're happy. I know I can finally sleep tonight.

[dafoomie]

Eh

I paid $40 on the new copy of Persona 2 debacle. This is much cooler IMO

I'm watching for a release too. I expected a much (>$60) higher price.

Related news story on 1up:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143041
I read somewhere that they dropped OlderGames and decided to self publish. I'll try and find the link.

[dafoomie]

Here's their official thread at digitpress:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72335

[ckonze]

Nice find dafoomie! You're really on top of this game. Keep the info comin'! :)

[CYRiX]

Pricing info:Half this thread just stopped caring, I bet.
Yeah actually I think DP people are rejoicing because they thought they were going to pay 50 bucks for it.

[adrianchan56]

which reminds me... some current music bands/singers release an old record version of their albums a year after.

[radjago]

Good Deal Games (http://www.gooddealgames.com/Publishing.html) publishes games for older systems. Most of the games are completed games that were never released, but they've published some new games as well.

[dafoomie]

Beggar Prince is now available for order at http://www.beggarprince.com

$46 shipped... Pretty steep.

[GuilewasNK]

$46 is little bit higher than I thought it would be but still is affordable. The only thing is that it says ships Spring 2006. Maybe they are waiting to see how many orders they get before they actually manufacture the packaging and game?

*edit*

$44 by money order.

[Vegan]

http://dfg.the-underdogs.org/bp/images/bprince4.gif

Okay so I finished FF4 recently, and I looked at this picture and thought of Zeromus before his form changes.

[dafoomie]

They just started shipping out orders... Anyone get one? I'm interested in seeing the boxart.

[Jack]

I'm interested in seeing the boxart.

http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/temp/bpbox.jpg

[dafoomie]

http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/temp/bpbox.jpg
Thanks. I've seen better... Maybe if the price drops to around $30, but for $46, I'll have to pass for now.

[brianmoy]

They're finally shipping?

I been waiting for this one as I don't like to do preorders. The price seems fair for a new cartridge game. I don't have enough in my gaming budget to afford that right now, but when I do I will have to buy it to support the developers.

[tdr32341]

the Shatt kingdom? for real?

[ctice44]

I just got the email saying that they shipped 500 (out of 600) already. I placed an order for one... I can't wait.

Here'e a copy of the email I got:


Hello!

Thank-you for your interest in Beggar Prince, the new
role-playing adventure game for the Sega Genesis -
Megadrive.

The game is now shipping to customers, and yes, we are
still taking new orders!
Many of you on this list have already placed an order
with us - - - and for that, we thank you!

However, for those of you who have not yet ordered, or
would like to tell your friends about the game, we
have only produced 600 copies of Beggar Prince and at
this time, have sold just over 500 of them. As we are
almost sold out, we have some important information
for you if you are interested in placing an order:

The product consists of the game cartridge, color
instruction manual and plastic clamshell case -
highest quality guaranteed! The instruction manual is
a beautiful 27-pages full of helpful information about
the game, accented by wonderful, full-color images and
artwork. We have had each piece professionally
produced from scratch: In other words, no recycled
game cases or boxes have been used. We're talking 100%
brand-new cartridges and boxes! Our goal was to
re-create the authentic Sega Genesis-Megadrive gaming
experience that dedicated fans are accustomed to, and
the results will truly surprise and excite you!

Beggar Prince will play in any Sega Genesis, Megadrive
or Nomad system regardless of region. Yes, this means
that all machines, be they NTSC or PAL, will play the
game flawlessly!

Once your payment has been received, your order will
be shipped as soon as possible, in the order in which
it was received. Please be patient, as we are a small
company with a busy schedule. We have made it easy for
you to place your order by offering two different
payment options: PayPal or money order. To inquire
about additional or special payment or shipping
considerations, please contact us by e-mail.

We are proud to offer two different payment options:
PayPal and money order. We accept PayPal payments in
US dollars ($), Great Britain Pounds (£) and Euros
(€). The cost of each game ordered is USD$40 +
appropriate shipping, broken down as follows:

USA and Canada: Beggar Prince game + shipping =
USD$46.00
England: Beggar Prince game + shipping = £29.00
Europe: Beggar Prince game + shipping = €43,00
Worldwide (outside of USA, Canada and Europe): Beggar
Prince game + shipping = USD$52.00

We will try to make special accomodations in price for
multiple orders, especially if ordering 10 copies of
the game or more. Your order will be shipped by either
USPS priority mail (within USA) or USPS global
priority mail (outside of USA) which usually takes
between 3 - 6 days to arrive. All orders are shipped
within a protective cardboard box, and the game itself
is protected by packing paper.

Beggar Prince has been featured in several videogame
magazines, including Hardcore Gamer (USA), Edge (UK),
Retro Gamer (UK), Video Game Collector (USA), Tips and
Tricks (USA) and more. It has also been given the
spotlight at classic gaming websites such as the
famous Sega-16.com! It's a great role-playing game
experience for everyone who still has and loves their
Sega Genesis - Megadrive system.

Should you have any questions about the game itself or
the order process, please write! You will get a quick,
informative responce.
Again, I would like to thank you for your time,
interest and support. Without people like you, this
release wouldn't have been possible.

Never let dreams die!

[radjago]

There's an interview with Brandon Cobb from Super Fighter Team over at Sega-16.

http://www.sega-16.com/Interview-%20Brandon%20Cobb.htm

[Roufuss]

$46 is alot... but can anyone see this getting VERY pricey down the line?

[brianmoy]

Price seems fair considering its a cartridge game w/ full packaging and not on a CD in CD case. If it was a CD game, I'm sure it would be much less.

Got their latest email from their mailing list so I will buy soon once I get some PP money. This is one of the few games I am willing to buy new rather than wait for a price drop or used copy, just because I want to support the company.

[Simply Dave]

I've put a few hours into this and have been pleasantly surprised at how much I've been enjoying it.

8.5 out of 10 so far for me.