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o0SwishaHouse
11-10-2005, 10:20 AM
I come onto this site, and do a few trades. Since Im new I had to pay first. Ive done a little amount of trades so I have about 5 feedback, and maybe should have 6 8-). I should have 6 since I paid, but I still havent got the game. I also have 1 feedback on Heatware. Not the point anyways, the point is, why is it that people with about 1 or 0 feedback expect me to send first. When I was new (I still am) I would pay first. How do people with 0 or 1 feedback expect someone to pay first. It makes no sense. And then they end up not wanting to sell becuz they want their money/item first. This is stupid.:bomb:
doodle777_98
11-10-2005, 01:32 PM
i usually tell sellers under my feedback to send first since i've been screwed once so far. Most actually are cool with it if not then its not worth it.
But your point is you have low feedback as well. In that case you have to bite the bullet. Till you get some more trades under your belt. Or many CAGs have tons of feedback. With some trades i'll ship at the same time if they are well known here or have been around awhile with no negative feedback or hvae over 40-50 feedback.
o0SwishaHouse
11-10-2005, 02:03 PM
Yea I know I have low feedback. But its still more then someone who has 0 or barely 1 feedback. So why is it me who has to pay/ship first. Its dumb, I think everyone with lesser feedback should ship/pay first.
o0SwishaHouse
11-10-2005, 02:05 PM
I dont mind paying or shipping first to someone who has more CAG feedback then me.
doodle777_98
11-10-2005, 02:19 PM
the best thing to do is trade with the people you trust at first. If the price is cheap and its from a new guy. you might get ripped. Some people want to take a chance, i did and i worked myself up pretty quickly. I've only been a cag for a year.
nachzeher
11-10-2005, 02:31 PM
Basically it just differs between people. Some insist on going by ebay rules (buyer pays first) and others who've been trading for awhile, will go by trading rules (lower feedbacks ends first).
Just remember, as uncomfortable as it is for you to send first, it's probably the same, if not more for them. You really can't force someone to think otherwise. If you're uncomfortable doing a certain aspect of a trade, I suggest you don't go through with that trade altogether. There're deals that are as good or better if you just wait for it.
pimpinc333
11-10-2005, 02:38 PM
Ok If I sell something on here I want the payment upfront. It doesn't matter if I'm selling to Shrike or JakeT the two best CAG feedback mods on this site. I say a seller should always get paid first. Sure they might not have any feedback or whatever but thats your judgement call on how bad you want to buy something from them. This is just my opinion though.
doodle777_98
11-10-2005, 02:45 PM
^^ i disagree. That how i got ripped. Now lower feedback sends first if i'm buying anything over 30 bucks. Then i pay. So far it's worked out better this way.
doraemonkerpal
11-10-2005, 03:56 PM
or you can do half up front and half when you get the item :)
pimpinc333
11-10-2005, 06:13 PM
^^ i disagree. That how i got ripped. Now lower feedback sends first if i'm buying anything over 30 bucks. Then i pay. So far it's worked out better this way.
Well I did say it was My opinion. Like I said I would never send my game first no matter what unless im paid upfront.
nachzeher
11-10-2005, 06:58 PM
or you can do half up front and half when you get the item :)
Or to make sure you don't get scammed you could just exclusively trade with me, zionoverfire, masha, doraemonkerpal, Rig and Shrike. :D
doraemonkerpal
11-10-2005, 07:10 PM
Or to make sure you don't get scammed you could just exclusively trade with me, zionoverfire, masha, doraemonkerpal, Rig and Shrike. :D
that's a great idea! 8-)
zionoverfire
11-10-2005, 09:06 PM
The problem really is that the mods refuse to write trading rules, until they do and add one that states all traders with 0 feedback MUST send first in all cases except when trading with an other 0 feedback user expect to have this problem. I've got 50 some feedback and I still have this same problem sometimes.
FriskyTanuki
11-10-2005, 09:42 PM
Or to make sure you don't get scammed you could just exclusively trade with me, zionoverfire, masha, doraemonkerpal, Rig and Shrike. :D
How do we know you're trustworthy? *squints eyes*
nachzeher
11-10-2005, 09:43 PM
How do we know you're trustworthy? *squints eyes*
How do we know you're trustworthy? Hah!
zionoverfire
11-10-2005, 09:45 PM
How do we know you're trustworthy? *squints eyes*
Because I say so.:D
FriskyTanuki
11-10-2005, 09:50 PM
Because I say so.:D
You're the least trustworthy person I've ever seen. *squints eyes*
How do we know you're trustworthy? Hah!
I never said I was... *double squinty eyes*
nachzeher
11-10-2005, 09:53 PM
I never said I was... *double squinty eyes*
I never said you were trustworthy either. So we're agreed then, you're not trustworthy. :D
zionoverfire
11-10-2005, 09:54 PM
You're the least trustworthy person I've ever seen. *squints eyes*
Yes, but an untrustworthy person vouching for another untrustworthy person clearly means something.:D
Or to make sure you don't get scammed you could just exclusively trade with me, zionoverfire, masha, doraemonkerpal, Rig and Shrike. :D
Sounds like a plan. :lol:
The problem really is that the mods refuse to write trading rules, until they do and add one that states all traders with 0 feedback MUST send first in all cases except when trading with an other 0 feedback user expect to have this problem. I've got 50 some feedback and I still have this same problem sometimes.
I have over 100 feedback and some people with less than 5 still get rude when I ask them to ship first :cry:
zionoverfire
11-11-2005, 02:44 AM
I have over 100 feedback and some people with less than 5 still get rude when I ask them to ship first :cry:
So try reasoning with them, it's not that it doesn't work 95% of the time it's more that I can't just point to a rule.
Also I've been around longer so my feedback counts for more.;)
So try reasoning with them, it's not that it doesn't work 95% of the time it's more that I can't just point to a rule.
Also I've been around longer so my feedback counts for more.;)
Oh, yea, probably 9 out of ten times I've had it happen the guy is very understanding once he realizes I'm not going to screw him but theres occasionally a deal that falls trhough b/c theres no way in hell I'm sending $35-40 for a new game to a guy that joined 2 days ago w/ no feedback. (Ironically, I've noticed that people that usually refuse to send first to established members never stick around CAG long :-s)
And I do agree, its not the size of your feedback that matters..
zionoverfire
11-11-2005, 02:54 AM
Oh, yea, probably 9 out of ten times I've had it happen the guy is very understanding once he realizes I'm not going to screw him but theres occasionally a deal that falls trhough b/c theres no way in hell I'm sending $35-40 for a new game to a guy that joined 2 days ago w/ no feedback. (Ironically, I've noticed that people that usually refuse to send first to established members never stick around CAG long :-s) [quote]
Exactly, if you can't reason leave negative feedback and get them banned from this site.;)
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And I do agree, its not the size of your feedback that matters..
Of course not, if that were true people would actually pay attention to Punq and Casey rather than me.:D
Exactly, if you can't reason leave negative feedback and get them banned from this site.;)
Hahaha I wish I had that much pull
zionoverfire
11-11-2005, 03:02 AM
Hahaha I wish I had that much pull
That's what you get for being shrikes bitch rather than the grand inquesator of all thing sensical.;)
also I've got 3 months on your ass. :-P
inquesator
also I've got 3 months on your ass. :-P
inquisitor?
and I stopped being shrikes bitch months ago, I've moved on to being a straight up PunqSux groupie.
and I've got 4 inches on your manhood, so we're even ;)
zionoverfire
11-11-2005, 03:27 AM
inquisitor?
and I stopped being shrikes bitch months ago, I've moved on to being a straight up PunqSux groupie.
and I've got 4 inches on your manhood, so we're even ;)
Dude my manhood is measure in girth not length just to let you know.;)
But good luck with the whole punqsus groupieism, the game line up is suppose to be good but you can't send a game over C+ quality out or he comes after your ass.;)
FriskyTanuki
11-11-2005, 04:18 AM
inquisitor?
and I stopped being shrikes bitch months ago, I've moved on to being a straight up PunqSux groupie.
and I've got 4 inches on your manhood, so we're even ;)
Except that punq left.
o0SwishaHouse
11-11-2005, 01:36 PM
LOL Omg people started talking about their manhood. Well anyways yeah I paid first for my first five things off of CAG. But I wont pay $50 or over to someone who has 0 or 1 feedback. I dont see how someone can ask someone to pay first. How can I trust them? I told 3 of the guys that I was going to buy something from to ship first since they dont have feedback, and would do you know. They want payment first. THATS BS. I already got screwed over on CAG for mercury, which is $30. ITS BS.
shrike4242
11-12-2005, 02:15 AM
The problem really is that the mods refuse to write trading rules, until they do and add one that states all traders with 0 feedback MUST send first in all cases except when trading with an other 0 feedback user expect to have this problem. I've got 50 some feedback and I still have this same problem sometimes.
One simple question to that.
Care to explain how I can force someone to do something off of CAG?
How can I force someone to do something off of the areas that I have any control over? Off of CAG, people will do as they choose to do.
I can set up a rule to do as you want, which requires people to send first/pay first with 0 feedback. How exactly do I enfore it? Ban them if they don't follow through? Have them get a neutral or a negative feedback over it, if everything else goes perfectly and flawlessly?
I'm the only member of CAG that has the right to ask any other CAG to send/pay first. Do I do it 100% of the time? No, I don't. When buying something, I usually send money first and when selling, I usually ask for it first. Does it always happen that way? No.
If people have issues with a trade and they're uncomfortable about it, they shouldn't do it. If people can't agree to terms on who sends/pays first, then they don't need to trade.
The mods aren't cops. We can't enforce anything besides what happens on here, and even that is only on what occurs on CAG, not in real life. All we can do is provide advise on what to do on here to minimize risk and what to do if things go bad. I can't force someone to send an item first. Period, without question.