View Full Version : O'Reilly to terrorists: San Francisco is yours to attack
alonzomourning23
11-13-2005, 05:27 PM
"Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead," O'Reilly went on. "And if al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead."
Here's the rest of the article http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/11/11/MNGFMFMNV41.DTL. He also said that katrina should have hit, and flooded, the u.n. building and he wouldn't have attempted to rescue anyone.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-13-2005, 05:34 PM
Can't say I disagree with Mr. Bill on this one.
If Sodom on the Sea went up in flames or fell into the Pacific can't say I'd shed a tear. I'd love to see the coverage of it though. I wonder, do you think the citizens of San Francisco might support military retaliation then? Maybe actually hunting down and killing those responsible and the organization they belong to? Or would they want them arrested, charged, put on trial and then have the subsequent verdicts thrown out by the 9th Circus of Appeals.
I'd also get a real kick out seeing an attack on the U.N. imagine the change in attitude from the corrupt governments that make up the bulk of membership. I completely agreed with John Bolton, if they knocked off a few stories of the U.N. building would anyone really miss what happened on those floors?
BTW, this is over a week old. It's barely worth posting at this point.
Drocket
11-13-2005, 05:50 PM
If Sodom on the Sea went up in flames or fell into the Pacific can't say I'd shed a tear. I'd love to see the coverage of it though. I wonder, do you think the citizens of San Francisco might support military retaliation then? Maybe actually hunting down and killing those responsible and the organization they belong to?
I'm sure they would. And then Bush would some semi-random oil-rich country, hand a few billion dollars off to Halliburton for contracts that would never be fulfilled, and then sit back while the area collapses into civil war. Pretty much like last time, really.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-13-2005, 05:58 PM
Golden Gate Bridge bombed, both decks ruined. San Francisco residents lament morning commutes to suffer, condemn Bush response.
mykevermin
11-13-2005, 05:58 PM
Can't say I disagree with Mr. Bill on this one.
If Sodom on the Sea went up in flames or fell into the Pacific can't say I'd shed a tear. I'd love to see the coverage of it though. I wonder, do you think the citizens of San Francisco might support military retaliation then? Maybe actually hunting down and killing those responsible and the organization they belong to? Or would they want them arrested, charged, put on trial and then have the subsequent verdicts thrown out by the 9th Circus of Appeals.
I'd also get a real kick out seeing an attack on the U.N. imagine the change in attitude from the corrupt governments that make up the bulk of membership. I completely agreed with John Bolton, if they knocked off a few stories of the U.N. building would anyone really miss what happened on those floors?
BTW, this is over a week old. It's barely worth posting at this point.
Given the concentration of liberals in NYC, and given your logic here, your reaction to 9/11 should have been a shrug of the shoulders, and perhaps a severe masturbation session to the news coverage of the dead.
I don't think that was your reaction, so why would the reaction change if the location did?
PittsburghAfterDark
11-13-2005, 05:59 PM
Because the attack on NYC was as much an attack on the financial markets of the Western world if not moreso than attack on NYC.
Ikohn4ever
11-13-2005, 06:00 PM
Can't say I disagree with Mr. Bill on this one.
If Sodom on the Sea went up in flames or fell into the Pacific can't say I'd shed a tear. I'd love to see the coverage of it though. I wonder, do you think the citizens of San Francisco might support military retaliation then? Maybe actually hunting down and killing those responsible and the organization they belong to? Or would they want them arrested, charged, put on trial and then have the subsequent verdicts thrown out by the 9th Circus of Appeals.
yeah it sux people have different opinions as you. Free speech is overated as long as it disagrees. Its much better to get rid of gays than guns. etc etc
PittsburghAfterDark
11-13-2005, 06:09 PM
I don't view sedition as a legitimate and honorable opposing viewpoint.
camoor
11-13-2005, 06:19 PM
Can't say I disagree with Mr. Bill on this one.
If Sodom on the Sea went up in flames or fell into the Pacific can't say I'd shed a tear.
...and I thought this was just going to be another thread with Alonzo whining about some crazy talk from O'Reilly / Robertson / <insert radical bigot of the week> . You really believe that?? Hilarious!
PittsburghAfterDark
11-13-2005, 06:21 PM
I really believe I wouldn't shed a tear?
Absolutely.
camoor
11-13-2005, 06:32 PM
I really believe I wouldn't shed a tear?
Absolutely.
Don't forget the part about declaring San Francisco fair game for the terrorists.
You really don't believe in Democracy, free speech, or America. You want a big fascist play-along, under the banner of the stars and stripes.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-13-2005, 06:59 PM
No, I believe in a representative republic. Democracy is mob rule.
Like I said, sedition is not a protected free speech.
It would be even better if such an attack, if it took place, took out Feinstein, Boxer and Pelosi. Then again, terrorists would probably hesitate to kill such ardent supporters.
The point of this conversation is moot. Why would any group attack a hotbed of political support?
Msut77
11-13-2005, 07:04 PM
PUD do you even believe what you type anymore?
PittsburghAfterDark
11-13-2005, 07:05 PM
Every fucking word of it slut77.
alonzomourning23
11-14-2005, 12:02 AM
Well, if we're going to kill supporters, we might as well tell them to target washington. Seriously, no other city has done more for their cause in the past 4 years than washington d.c.
camoor
11-14-2005, 12:24 AM
Well, if we're going to kill supporters, we might as well tell them to target washington. Seriously, no other city has done more for their cause in the past 4 years than washington d.c.
The citizens of Washington DC, the ones who live here, are fully against the war.
Texas is the base of red state sentiment.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 12:25 AM
Don't worry o'reilly, san francisco is built on one of the largest faults in & around the united states, you don't have to have a weak-kneed political viewpoint to know that.
RedvsBlue
11-14-2005, 12:34 AM
I don't view sedition as a legitimate and honorable opposing viewpoint.
Ahh so what's your view on southern states displaying the Confederate flag? I mean that's a representation of the southern rebellion against the U.S. according to many republicans.
Quackzilla
11-14-2005, 12:35 AM
Get fucked, PAD.
alonzomourning23
11-14-2005, 01:19 AM
The citizens of Washington DC, the ones who live here, are fully against the war.
Texas is the base of red state sentiment.
I know. All you have to do is look at PAD's comments to realize why I said it.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 01:19 AM
Ahh so what's your view on southern states displaying the Confederate flag? I mean that's a representation of the southern rebellion against the U.S. according to many republicans.
It is? That's really news to me. I hear the "southern heritage" or "historical south" lines 20-1 over anything that would involve active rebellion against the existing Federal government.
Get fucked, PAD.
I did, Friday. Thanks for your concern.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 01:43 AM
I did, Friday. Thanks for your concern.
Thanks for the mental image
http://www.computing.dcu.ie/computety/2005/swall-cty/fatass.jpg
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 02:58 AM
What's so great about that image is that even though she is a fat nasty bitch.... she still wouldn't do you.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 03:29 AM
thats a good thing she wouldn't "do" me, your insult was about as well formulated as your political views.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 03:59 AM
Oh, and you throwing a picture out there of an unattractive backside is worthy of the Nobel Prize okay, back to the padded room, time for your thorazine.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 04:07 AM
back to the padded room, time for your thorazine.
Original, do you get your insults from the same cesspool as your skewed viewpoints? Or is your dull wit kind of a family trait?
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 04:13 AM
Skewed viewpoint?
San Francisco isn't a liberal hot bed full of people who question America's social values, societal makeup, election results, nature of it's military mission, purpose of corporations and private enterprise, standing of the church and moral issues? I could go on but that right there is enough to sit down, grab a bag of popcorn and watch you flail about with one foot in your ass and the other in your mouth as you perform incredible mental gymnastics explaining to us how Sodom on the Sea is representative of mainstream America.
Go on. Please. Indulge me by telling me how wrong and skewed that point of view is.
This shall be PRICELESS.
kakomu
11-14-2005, 04:18 AM
San Francisco isn't a liberal hot bed full of people who question America's social values, societal makeup, election results, nature of it's military mission, purpose of corporations and private enterprise, standing of the church and moral issues? I could go on but that right there is enough to sit down, grab a bag of popcorn and watch you flail about with one foot in your ass and the other in your mouth as you perform incredible mental gymnastics explaining to us how Sodom on the Sea is representative of mainstream America.
You're right! Why question accountability!?! It's overrated! It's not like conservatives or republicans ever question the accountability of the president. It's too sacred a position (stupid Marbury v Madison! Why did you let us sue the president?!?!)
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 04:21 AM
Not the question posted.
Nice try dodging the postulate forwared.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 04:57 AM
Not the question posted.
Nice try dodging the postulate forwared.
It must be very unfortunate for you that nobody knows how to decipher your idiotic babel. It really must be overexhausting for you to have to actually create a coherent argument and have to type it to boot, & to all these damn libs too!
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 05:22 AM
Ah, I see. You can't answer it either.
Just as I thought.
No entry found for overexhausting. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=overexhausting)
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA, please, do go on about this.... idiotic babel.
Oh wait, I hate to question anyone's grasp of the English language due to forgetting a simple click of the space bar on their keyboard. Let's check the suggested synonym.
No entry found for over exhausting. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=over%20exhausting)
Oh yes, do continue on about idiotic babel. I sit at the base of your wisdom tree, er, uhm, shrub, no wait, seedling? No, sprout? No.... weed. Yeah, your wisdom weed.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 05:35 AM
Hmm, well your arguments just seem so much stronger now that you've noticed I didn't use a space between over and exhausting, really!
I could go on about your idiotic rantings but I can just hang back and let the rest of the board community do that for me, you're a beacon of stupidity.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 05:40 AM
Dude, you can't even come up with words and phrases that a dictionary can identify.
Now who's spouting idiotic babel?
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 05:43 AM
Dude, you can't even come up with words and phrases that a dictionary can identify.
Now who's spouting idiotic babel?
You, care to continue?
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 05:44 AM
Keep going.
As I said, I yearn to learn at the base of your wisdom weed.
Please, pontificate profusely.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 06:01 AM
Keep going.
I asked you to continue first, therefor you can't just tell me to continue based on your play on words, unless you want me to call you a smug little prick that only feels the need to get the last word in, no matter what the substance of what you say is. You're so pathetic you feel the need to put some lackluster partisan speech in your signature on a video game forum, what else needs to be said to such a man?
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 06:04 AM
Uh yeah, just what I thought.
You have nothing.
kakomu
11-14-2005, 06:24 AM
Not the question posted.
Nice try dodging the postulate forwared.
There are no postulates in politics. Everything has to be steeped in fact. Otherwise, you have a slippery slope.
As for the question, you brought it up. Mull that over for a second.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 06:38 AM
You have nothing.
Ditto, you're last call was on a space, loser.
kakomu
11-14-2005, 06:46 AM
Like I said, sedition is not a protected free speech.
So what part of "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances" is not protected?
ANY time sedition acts have been put into place (including John Adams' Alien and Sedition acts), the supreme courts has struck them down as unconstitutional. EXACTLY how is sedition not a protected free speech?
It would be even better if such an attack, if it took place, took out Feinstein, Boxer and Pelosi. Then again, terrorists would probably hesitate to kill such ardent supporters.
Can you provide a quote that shows them explicitly supporting terrorism? Not some anti-Bush speech where you attribute that to supporting terrorism because Bush makes Us vs them, with or against us speech. Something concrete and recognizeable. Really, start backing up your claims rather than just making right-wing nutjob statements. I want to hear this.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 06:53 AM
Ditto, you're last call was on a space, loser.
One last piece of advice for you Madison Avenue.
If you're going to advertise a product on your screen name?
Get paid for it.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 06:55 AM
I think this is hypocritical logic by mr. O' Reilly to say these kinds of things when the presidents main argument is about how democrats are "sending the wrong signals" to the troops, yeah by telling them part of our country should be open game for terrorists to bomb...
This man isn't a journalist, he's a talking head made to shock people.
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 07:00 AM
One last piece of advice for you Madison Avenue.
If you're going to advertise a product on your screen name?
Get paid for it.
He's gone delusional, is this your marathon forum night? Get some rest, we can continue this shit tossing contest when you're not so deprived.
PittsburghAfterDark
11-14-2005, 07:19 AM
How's that ass taste?
Metal Boss
11-14-2005, 07:23 AM
How'd you like to taste a fist?
1modernboy
11-15-2005, 10:46 AM
I don't view sedition as a legitimate and honorable opposing viewpoint.
Forgive me for interrupting the regularly scheduled purse swinging, but, given the source, I’d have to say this nugget is the finest piece of comedy gold I’ve seen in these parts in ages.
Seriously, PAD, for you, and indeed all of us, this board is about 2% hard facts, 13% party rhetoric, 25% smart-assed retorts, and 60% pure, unadulterated agitation of the other side. I think we can all admit that.
RedvsBlue
11-15-2005, 12:44 PM
Yay Metal Boss vs. PAD is the new Quack vs. PAD
evanft
11-15-2005, 01:35 PM
Tap gloves... LET'S GET IT ON!!!!
Drocket
11-15-2005, 05:37 PM
This just in: O’Reilly now claims that his statements were 'satire'. This after having previously stated that he meant what he said, he didn't think his statements were controversial, and that he simple said what he thought needed to be said. Mmm-hmm. I'm sure this has NOTHING to do with the rather large public boycott of his sponsers that has been organized over the past few days.
He's also decided that's going to create an 'enemies list' online, on which he's going to publish all the names of the people who thought that asking terrorists to destroy a major US city was a bad thing.
MrBadExample
11-15-2005, 05:43 PM
O'Reilly is a joke. If he really thinks that creating a Nixonian enemies list online is going to help his cause, he's got another think coming.
He should go back to perv-dialing his co-workers and leave decent folk alone.
Metal Boss
11-15-2005, 07:36 PM
O'reilly always tries claiming he was joking when he is in the hot-seat, I bet he did the same thing after he sexually harrassed that lady awhile back.
photopants
11-16-2005, 01:57 AM
Wow! Just look all the hot and heavy debating going on over such a simple matter as respecting your own country. Do any of you really feel that the US is out to take over the world? Cmon you all live here and you know that no other place on earth sucks less than our USA. Give yourselves our government and our military a little credit for keeping the facts of evil history from our shores. Please study history before you ever take this nation for a bad one. We bend over backwards to please or apease but we also dont take much shit from anyone. Just exactly as you all do in your own lives. Go Bill! and Shame on SF
alonzomourning23
11-16-2005, 02:20 AM
Wow! Just look all the hot and heavy debating going on over such a simple matter as respecting your own country. Do any of you really feel that the US is out to take over the world? Cmon you all live here and you know that no other place on earth sucks less than our USA. Give yourselves our government and our military a little credit for keeping the facts of evil history from our shores. Please study history before you ever take this nation for a bad one. We bend over backwards to please or apease but we also dont take much shit from anyone. Just exactly as you all do in your own lives. Go Bill! and Shame on SF
Just for the record, I liked Canada better. It's also more immigrant and civil rights friendly. Then there's the whole universal health care thing like much of the rest of the world has. Remember "america's health care system is second only to Japan, Canada, Sweden, Great Britain, well, all of Europe, but you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!". I love that line.
Though I really have no idea what that has to do with anything. You go on about the greatness of the u.s., so what? The fact that we don't want san francisco attacked means we're disrespecting the u.s.? Unless I'm missing something, advocating the targeting of u.s. cities isn't exactly the most patriotic or respectfull thing to do. That's what O'reilly did, he said San Francisco was an acceptable terrorist target since they did not want military recruiters taking away kids from their education. Military recruiters do sugar coat, omit and often outright lie, to get recruits. That's why many schools have anti recruiters (such as ex marines) to argue against the military recruiter and often correct the recruiter. .
The united states is supposed to be a bastian of free speach, civil rights, immigrants and the like. Through street protests, legislation and court battles those rights have been expanded to make America more consisten with tis ideals. The liberal areas, such as san francisco, boston, new york etc. are simply more concerned with the values of the u.s. than a piece of cloth. Those values have been promoted by liberal ideology, not the like of o'reilly.
CappyCobra
11-16-2005, 02:53 AM
Ah, I see. You can't answer it either.
Just as I thought.
No entry found for overexhausting. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=overexhausting)
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA, please, do go on about this.... idiotic babel.
Oh wait, I hate to question anyone's grasp of the English language due to forgetting a simple click of the space bar on their keyboard. Let's check the suggested synonym.
No entry found for over exhausting. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=over%20exhausting)
Oh yes, do continue on about idiotic babel. I sit at the base of your wisdom tree, er, uhm, shrub, no wait, seedling? No, sprout? No.... weed. Yeah, your wisdom weed.
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9241/grammarnazi8ka.th.gif (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grammarnazi8ka.gif)
Cheese
11-16-2005, 03:15 AM
So the 58% of San Franciscan voters who voted for a toothless resolution to "oppose" (not ban) military recruiters from public high schools are bad. But Bill O'Reilly, who believes that denying military recruiters access to impressionable children as young as 14 should end in a cut of all federal responsibility for a major American metropolis up to an including allowing a terrorist attack to take place, and going so far as to urge terrorists to attack a fireman's monument is OK? Just to clarify.
It should be noted that The San Fran proposition only says they "oppose" the recruiters in schools, it does nothing to ban it. If they banned it outright it'd cost them $40 million in federal funding. The Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 2002 already makes it law that high schools are required to provide military recruiters names, addresses and phone numbers of all students. Schools that refuse face losing all federal education funding. So Bill's beating a dead horse. You're championing a liar and deliberate misinformer, y'know, "a propagandist, like Goebbels" to quote Bill himself.
evanft
11-16-2005, 08:29 AM
Wow! Just look all the hot and heavy debating going on over such a simple matter as respecting your own country. Do any of you really feel that the US is out to take over the world? Cmon you all live here and you know that no other place on earth sucks less than our USA. Give yourselves our government and our military a little credit for keeping the facts of evil history from our shores. Please study history before you ever take this nation for a bad one. We bend over backwards to please or apease but we also dont take much shit from anyone. Just exactly as you all do in your own lives. Go Bill! and Shame on SF
Wow, you suck at posting.
kakomu
11-16-2005, 11:30 AM
Cmon you all live here and you know that no other place on earth sucks less than our USA. Give yourselves our government and our military a little credit for keeping the facts of evil history from our shores. Please study history before you ever take this nation for a bad one. We bend over backwards to please or apease but we also dont take much shit from anyone. Just exactly as you all do in your own lives. Go Bill! and Shame on SF
If one has only lived in the USA, there's not much of a frame of reference, now is there?
As far as I can tell, we don't bend over backwards to please or appease. In fact, it seems that we try to antagonize on even the smallest issues that are insignificant to us.
We've had plenty of "evil history" on our shores.
Cheese
11-16-2005, 01:55 PM
We bend over backwards to please or apease but we also dont take much shit from anyone.
I especially like how we bent over to please brutal dictators throughout south and central america. Not to mention our good dictator pals through out central asia (I'm looking at you Pakistan, Kazakhstan!). I also how we've bent over to please American industry at the cost of thousands of human lives and untold environmental damage here and abroad, that's something to really be proud of!
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