Perfect Dark Zero: 9/10! "Best FPS since Halo 2!" [Mobile/Archive]

Ruined

11-18-2005, 12:32 PM

From OXM UK January Issue
http://forums.xbox.com/438343/ShowPost.aspx

Like some sort of crazy A Team style plan involving hammering in a garage, close ups of pipes being cut, sheets of spiked metal riveted into a van, and some hilarious one liners from Face-man, Perfect Dark Zero has actually come together. And we LOVE it.".... "From Zero to Hero...The Finest first person shooter since Halo 2"

+Superb Replay Value
+Colossally addictive on Xbox Live
+More weapons than Charlton Heston
+Better-than-high-end PC visuals

-Embarrassingly Wacky Voiceovers

guyver2077

11-18-2005, 12:33 PM

cant wait

javeryh

11-18-2005, 12:36 PM

I hope it's true.

jer7583

11-18-2005, 12:37 PM

told ya so..

people will still hate it though, no matter how good it is. It's going to have a much slower pace then most people will want.

javeryh

11-18-2005, 12:38 PM

told ya so..

people will still hate it though, no matter how good it is. It's going to have a much slower pace then most people will want.

Aren't you supposed to hate the game? I think the saying goes "don't hate the playa, hate the game, BIATCH!!!!" or something like that...

Strell

11-18-2005, 12:40 PM

Wow. If it "is the best FPS since Halo 2," it must be pretty terrible. I guess for console players it's something of a solace, but damn.

Maynard

11-18-2005, 12:51 PM

still gonna wait for a review from one of these sites.....

LinkinPrime

11-18-2005, 01:01 PM

:bow: :bow:Thanks for not letting us down Rare! :bow: :bow:

(even though it might be too soon to say) I have faith....

pimpinc333

11-18-2005, 01:10 PM

OXM......biased? Nah :) I hope its good though but I'm gonnahave o see what IGN and Gamespot review it at. 8.5 and up I'll buy it.

SpottedNigel

11-18-2005, 01:15 PM

Best FPS on XBOX 360 since Halo 2 makes a lot more sense...otherwise it doesnt make any at all

trq

11-18-2005, 01:55 PM

Color me skeptical, considering that as of yesterday, IGN at least, didn't even have review copies, and that's never a good sign. A glowing OFFICIAL Xbox mag review counts for exactly nothing in my book.

Ruined

11-18-2005, 02:06 PM

Just took these 5 mins ago :)

copy/paste to browser:

http://www.reflectonreality.com/pdzo.jpg
http://www.reflectonreality.com/pdzi.jpg

RAMSTORIA

11-18-2005, 02:06 PM

OXM......biased? Nah :) I hope its good though but I'm gonnahave o see what IGN and Gamespot review it at. 8.5 and up I'll buy it.

thats what i was just thinking, its OXM

hohez

11-18-2005, 02:11 PM

Whats next, Nintendo power gives Mario Kart a good score? BREAKING NEWS!!!!

shipwreck

11-18-2005, 02:16 PM

Actually, if you look at OXM's scores they generally are pretty close to what other websites and publications think on most releases. They aren't as biased as most people think.

Groux

11-18-2005, 02:16 PM

PDZ is about as safe of a bet as you can get.

Maynard

11-18-2005, 02:19 PM

i smell cover up of a peice of shit game possibly. Interesting that an xbox magazine reviews it yet.....

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668032p1.html

Dont start fanboy flaming. I want this to be a good game just as much as you, i just dont wanna waste 60$ you know what i mean?

CapAmerica

11-18-2005, 02:20 PM

I rather wait to read a review from a Non-Xbox Magaizen

Should be noted that OXM gave 'Grabbed by the Ghoulies' a 8.2/10 and 'Conker: Live and Reloaded' a 8/10.

So ya, their review means dick, also its going to be kind of hard to see any one who has been hypeing this game up to actually give it a bad review, cause if they were to give it a bad review it would make them look pretty stupid since they were the ones hypeing it up.

Groux

11-18-2005, 02:33 PM

Maynard

11-18-2005, 02:55 PM

PDZ was a last minute addition to the launch day titles. For the longest time they were calling it a "before Christmas" game, so there is no wonder you don't see more reviews. With that said, IGN is dumb, you could buy PDZ at the stores on Wednesday, and some even had them as early as Tuesday.

with that said, your dumb... they get copies from Rare you tool thats why they're worried. I'm j/p around about you being dumb, but they dont go out and buy games and review them, they're supplied by the publisher or developer early because they know that reviews matter to people. So rare not supplying a reviewable Gold build or final build is a little scary for a game that is supposed to be "HALO 2 KILLER RAWR"

psychobrawler

11-18-2005, 02:56 PM

I actually enjoy OXM. I don't think they're that far off. It's not like every game they review is high just because it's Xbox. It's all relative. They're only reviewing Xbox games, so obiously that they're not comparing so much to PS or Nintendo titles, only within the system. Still, several of their highest ranked games (PoP, Ninja Gaiden, SC:CT) are not microsoft, or even exclusive games.

Bottem line is every reviewer has biases based on what he/she likes. There's not a reviewer one that I can honestly say I've never dissagreed with at some point. If you don't like shooters, you won't like the next big shooter, regardless of how good it is. I'm pleased to see at least one good sign towards PDZ. And I'm very anxious to see teamxbox, IGN, and gamespot's reviews added...

Apossum

11-18-2005, 03:18 PM

cool.

hey wouldn't that be funny if IGN and Gamespot gave it a 0? Cause then, you know, hah, it would be so funny, because you know it's called perfect dark ZERO, HAH!! LOLZ!!!

I'll show myself out.

worx

11-18-2005, 03:19 PM

$hady

11-18-2005, 03:20 PM

I actually enjoy OXM.

Which part the 30 pages of articles or the 90 pages of advertisements?? Has anyone checked out the new King Kong issue yet? WTF they've got a 32 page ad for cell phone games........

daroga

11-18-2005, 03:22 PM

Wait, but Halo 2 wasn't good. Maybe best FPS since Halo, or Half-Life 2 or something. Not Halo 2... maybe this is as over-hyped as Halo 2 and it's a misprint?

$hady

11-18-2005, 03:25 PM

I never got hooked into Halo like pretty much everyone else in the world did. Right now my favorite FPS is BF2:MC, if PDZ tops that I'll be very very happy! I also have high hopes for Quake 4 online, I LOVED Quake 3.

psychobrawler

11-18-2005, 03:26 PM

Which part the 30 pages of articles or the 90 pages of advertisements?? Has anyone checked out the new King Kong issue yet? WTF they've got a 32 page ad for cell phone games........

Actually I was referring to the 40 pages that talk about what you'll read in the next 30 pages...

What I meant was more to the point that I typically enjoy their reviews and (usually) more or less agree with them.

And I sure am glad they compared it to halo 2 so we can all revisit that review flame war...

$hady

11-18-2005, 03:31 PM

LOL!!!!

I just counted the pages and not counting those thick paper insert sheets which I ripped out as soon as I got the mag it has about 86 pages of ads and 52 pages of actually info/glossary/etc/etc. The page numbers are screwed up because of the cell phone ad, it shows 104 pages.

SpreadTheWord

11-18-2005, 03:36 PM

Wait, but Halo 2 wasn't good. Maybe best FPS since Halo, or Half-Life 2 or something. Not Halo 2... maybe this is as over-hyped as Halo 2 and it's a misprint?

One of the +'s said "Colossally addictive on Xbox Live". Kinda like Halo 2, eh?

Apossum

11-18-2005, 04:05 PM

will you be here all week? ;)

so then I says, I says, Perfect Dark? .....more like Zero! m i rite? m i rite?

RAMSTORIA

11-18-2005, 04:12 PM

Wait, but Halo 2 wasn't good. Maybe best FPS since Halo, or Half-Life 2 or something. Not Halo 2... maybe this is as over-hyped as Halo 2 and it's a misprint?

:applause:

MadFlava

11-18-2005, 04:35 PM

I don't think PDZ is going to disappoint. Rare has worked real hard on this game. The last PD was such a good game I can't imagine them delivering a less than par game after the years of development that went into this game. My first thought was that Call of Duty 2 would be the best 360 title at launch but now that PDZ is going to make it in time, it looks like PDZ will be the game to get.

Professor Oreo

11-18-2005, 05:46 PM

Whatever. I'm waiting for the Gamespot review. Those bastards don't cut anyone any slack, and if the game is pure shit, they'll definitely say so.

Aleryn

11-18-2005, 05:52 PM

Hope it's true... thanks for the information.

FriskyTanuki

11-18-2005, 06:13 PM

guardian_owl

11-18-2005, 06:31 PM

Whatever. I'm waiting for the Gamespot review. Those bastards don't cut anyone any slack, and if the game is pure shit, they'll definitely say so.
I don't know about that, I was reading the Condemmed review and watching the video review and it didn't sound like his comments matched up with the score of 8.0. Sounds like it's a pretty, gritty, atmospheric game with repetitive combat system and average level design. The comments in the review sounded more like a 7ish game to me.

KaneRobot

11-18-2005, 07:34 PM

You guys still clinging to this retarded notion that Halo 2 is no good are funny. "THE ENTIRE GAMING MEDIA IS BIASED!"

Yeah, sure.

There are plenty of games I may not like, but I can still tell the difference between something good and something that's crap. I'm not a huge GTA III/VC/SA fan, but I still recognize they are good games.

On topic - no reviews for PDZ (not even from IGN) is definitely not a good sign. I hope this is all for nothing and it turns out good, but this doesn't fill me with a lot of hope.

Scorch

11-18-2005, 07:44 PM

So I saw the strategy guide today and read a bit about the weapons, and i've gotta say.. i'm completely hyped, 100% to the max on the hyped scale.

Some of the secondary functions that I remember.. scan the area for enemies and they'll show on the radar, create a fake blip on the rader for the enemy so you can sneak up on them (or make multiple fake blips), ricochet shots, laptop guns, holograms, see grenades.. and it goes on and on and on.. it sounds like it's going to be completely and utterly insane and badass on XBox Live.

daroga

11-18-2005, 08:11 PM

You guys still clinging to this retarded notion that Halo 2 is no good are funny. "THE ENTIRE GAMING MEDIA IS BIASED!"

Um... I own Halo 2. It's crap.

zewone

11-18-2005, 08:17 PM

Um... I own Halo 2. It's crap.
Right, there is nothing redeeming about it at all. The 5 million people who enjoy it must be insane or tasteless. :roll:

Brak

11-18-2005, 08:22 PM

People think they're edgy when they hate something that "everyone" loves.

With that said, I THINK BREATHING OXYGEN SUCKS!

anomynous

11-18-2005, 08:24 PM

already have it.................

daroga

11-18-2005, 08:32 PM

Right, there is nothing redeeming about it at all. The 5 million people who enjoy it must be insane or tasteless. :roll:

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. It was just a far lesser game than Halo was, and certainly didn't live up to the hype that it got before it was released. The story was contrived, it poorly coded/overloaded the Xbox (pop-up in a first party game? Come on). In the end, it was just boring.

I loved Halo. I beat that game 5 times or more. Halo 2 just couldn't hold my attention. I was even majorly pumped for it's release. Have never been more diappointed in a game in my life.

That being said, I hope Perfect Dark Zero lives up to everyone's high expectations for it. :)

thealternakid

11-18-2005, 08:44 PM

I guess i too am in the 'edgy' minority with Halo 2. The problem i have is that in every review for that game talks about graphical glitches during cutscenes, or gameplay ( which made my eyes bleed), and the lame cliffhanger story, but then awarded the game a high 9 or whatever. If there are glaring mistakes with a game, that is very apparent to the player. the game does not deserve a hyped up close to perfect score. Since those reviews came out, i basically won't trust the review sites. Gametab will remove scores lower than the average, and falsely boost a games ranking, which just shows that the scores are usually biased. I will buy the 360 ( after at least one price drop) and then rent the game so that i can come up with my own score. Even if it scores like crap, i may still like it. IE voodoo vince, 7.8 from gamespot, Personally i thought it deserved a 8.8 or above.

zewone

11-18-2005, 08:45 PM

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. It was just a far lesser game than Halo was, and certainly didn't live up to the hype that it got before it was released. The story was contrived, it poorly coded/overloaded the Xbox (pop-up in a first party game? Come on). In the end, it was just boring.

I loved Halo. I beat that game 5 times or more. Halo 2 just couldn't hold my attention. I was even majorly pumped for it's release. Have never been more diappointed in a game in my life.

That being said, I hope Perfect Dark Zero lives up to everyone's high expectations for it. :)
You bought it for the single player? That was your mistake right there.

Apossum

11-18-2005, 09:13 PM

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/545/545798/img_3223944.html

only one way to settle the battle between halo 1 and 2.

zewone

11-18-2005, 09:19 PM

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/545/545798/img_3223944.html

only one way to settle the battle between halo 1 and 2.
God those graphics are beautiful. I can't wait to see Halo 3. :drool:

dafoomie

11-18-2005, 09:20 PM

So rare not supplying a reviewable Gold build or final build is a little scary for a game that is supposed to be "HALO 2 KILLER RAWR"
Review copies weren't really given out until today, due to the game being late. They actually started pressing discs before the game was certified by MS, if it didn't pass, they would have had to destroy those discs.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1662&Itemid=2

That said, I'm waiting on the rest of the reviews, and to see it for myself.

psychobrawler

11-18-2005, 10:12 PM

IGN says the same. They expect to start posting impressions tomorrow as they review it.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668032p1.html

And yeah, those DOA4 pics give me a big hard on for Halo 3....

whiteboy

11-18-2005, 10:23 PM

People think they're edgy when they hate something that "everyone" loves.

With that said, I THINK BREATHING OXYGEN SUCKS!
This is exactly what I'm thinking. Its even more hilarious that people ignore their hating comments and then they reword them and post it again trying to get a reaction. You're not fucking edgy, no one gives a shit if you dont like Halo.

dafoomie

11-18-2005, 10:27 PM

IGN has their "First Impressions" of PDZ up. Not quite a review, but its 3 pages.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668164p1.html

daroga

11-18-2005, 10:31 PM

This is exactly what I'm thinking. Its even more hilarious that people ignore their hating comments and then they reword them and post it again trying to get a reaction. You're not fucking edgy, no one gives a shit if you dont like Halo.

Yup. Just like no one cares that you might like Halo 2. Wasn't trying to be edgy. Didn't realize an opinion contrary to the majority was wrong. Thanks for clarifying! Actually, the hilarious thing is how defensive people get over a game.

Apossum

11-18-2005, 10:59 PM

God those graphics are beautiful. I can't wait to see Halo 3. :drool:

no. you're supposed to be edgy and say: "meh, DoA 4 is just the same exact thing as DoA Ultimate."

mmn

11-18-2005, 11:26 PM

Yup. Just like no one cares that you might like Halo 2. Wasn't trying to be edgy. Didn't realize an opinion contrary to the majority was wrong. Thanks for clarifying! Actually, the hilarious thing is how defensive people get over a game.

Its not about getting defensive, its about getting annoyed at hearing the same thing over and over from you pathetic Halo haters. We get it, you don't like the game. Thanks for sharing. Now go away.

slimpip

11-18-2005, 11:30 PM

Its not about getting defensive, its about getting annoyed at hearing the same thing over and over from you pathetic Halo haters. We get it, you don't like the game. Thanks for sharing. Now go away.

Why do we have to leave?

thealternakid

11-18-2005, 11:44 PM

and as a retort, yes we get it, you like Halo 2, nay, you love Halo 2. best first person shooter ever, blah blah blah. don't you think that gets old too? we are all entitled to our opinions. in comparing PDZ as a "halo 2 killer" those of us that didn't enjoy either single player or live play, it just shows that the reviewers are trying to stir up hype. Having an opinion is ok ya know, even if it is not the same as yours.

Kaijufan

11-18-2005, 11:45 PM

IGN has their "First Impressions" of PDZ up. Not quite a review, but its 3 pages.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668164p1.html
According to those impressions PDZ is similar to the first PD (and Goldeneye, and the Timesplitter games), which I really enjoyed. :D
I look forward to the reviews.
To anyone who has seen the guide: How many multiplayer levels does PD0 have? I've heard 6, but that seems really low.

Pancake Rabbit

11-18-2005, 11:45 PM

Those IGN first impressions make it sound like it will be somewhere in the high 7 low 8 range. Good, but nothing new or special.

Brak

11-18-2005, 11:49 PM

and as a retort, yes we get it, you like Halo 2, nay, you love Halo 2. best first person shooter ever, blah blah blah. don't you think that gets old too? we are all entitled to our opinions.

I wish I could live in a world where you either have to love or hate something. It might make things easier, to view the world in absolutes.

I enjoy Halo 2. I don't think it's the best first-person shooter in the history of Earth -- but I think it's one of the best.

in comparing PDZ as a "halo 2 killer" those of us that didn't enjoy either single player or live play, it just shows that the reviewers are trying to stir up hype. Having an opinion is ok ya know, even if it is not the same as yours.

It's ok to have an opinion... yet if you recap your first sentence in what I've quoted above, you're deeming their opinion as a fallacy, as it seems as though it's nothing more than hype, as PD0 can't be any better than Halo 2... even though you don't like Halo 2. Confusing.

$hady

11-19-2005, 12:00 AM

Anyone seen the CE case pics yet? SHHHHHWWWWEEEET!

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1834/xbox3600048rp.jpg

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5350/xbox3600035zu.jpg

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5920/xbox3600056vy.jpg

DAMN YOU EB!!! I WANT MY COPY! PLEASE HAVE MY COPY IN TOMORROW SO I CAN PLAY!! :roll::lol::cry: LOL The guy on the phone gave me a solid "maybe" on them showing up tomorrow....

thealternakid

11-19-2005, 12:05 AM

well, if you would read the post, the first section was a retort to the m mn. then i go on to say that by the reviewers comparing pdz to halo 2, i find them( the reviewers) to be trying to stir up hype. i don't remember ever saying that people can not just think that halo 2 is ok. I merely was poking fun at the response of member m mn, when he called those that don't like halo 2 as being pathetic halo haters. I personally have specific reasons ( previous post in this thread) about why i believe that there was hype regarding the reviews of halo 2 ( graphical glitches etc) and and why i did not enjoy the game ( lame cliffhanger story).

As for PDZ, i clearly stated that i would make a judgement on the game when i bought an xbox 360. I don't really get what you trying to assume from what i wrote. My opinion is clear, using the phrase, "halo 2 killer" the reviewers are trying to stir up hype. I never have said that their opinion is wrong, merely that they are attempting to draw a comparison with a very popular game.
Looking over that line of my post it seems that i am saying that because i didn't enjoy the game, the reviewers hype is unwanted. I was trying to make the comparison that the hype means nothing to those that didn't like halo 2 as much as others.

Brak

11-19-2005, 12:08 AM

So what you're saying is that you'd prefer a game review where they don't compare it to / draw comparisons from another game (let alone popular game)?

I agree.

gamerx0

11-19-2005, 12:10 AM

Ruined

11-19-2005, 01:10 AM

:drool:

See post 12 on page 1 ;)

asianxcore

11-19-2005, 01:21 AM

thank god the discs aren't stacked on top of each other. awesome case.

gamerx0

11-19-2005, 01:25 AM

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668184p1.html
Online impressions and video.

Ikohn4ever

11-19-2005, 01:50 AM

I hope its not like Halo2, Halo2 was a huge hype machine that truly fizzled out story wise, yes I happen to like stories in my games. There was supposed to be this huge conflict with massive battles on Earth and other spartans fighting with you defending the planet. There was like one board like that. They had a to be continued ending which is beyond cheese for a 50 dollar product. I dont reallly care if the online is amazing, its the story first, there do happen to be people without live. Also there was such a rush job in getting it done that the cutscenes had objects poppin in and out. If you wanna say that is a quality game you are entitled to your opinion, to me it made me regret my purchase of a half-assed, overhyped Halo 1.5.

thagoat

11-19-2005, 01:51 AM

still gonna wait for a review from one of these sites.....
WHO'S THAT DIRTY SLUT, MAYNARD? SHE'S A WHORE, I CAN TELL! TELL HER ITS VERY UNLADY LIKE TO SHOW HER ASS TO THE WHOLE WORLD.

$hady

11-19-2005, 10:11 AM

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/668/668184p1.html
Online impressions and video.

I watched all those MP videos last night. :drool:

ananag112

11-19-2005, 10:13 AM