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Logg

12-20-2005, 01:19 AM

I know I am really late, but I just a PS2 and Soul Caliber 3 and Tekken 5. I love Tekken 5 its the 2nd best fighting game I have ever played. MvC2 will always be my favorite. Tekken 5 is a great game though.

MarkMan

12-20-2005, 02:43 AM

Tekken 5 :)

Yeah, I'll let everyone know when the magazine finishes up the first issue..

Rodimus

12-20-2005, 02:49 AM

actually the whole thing with slayer reading Haiku makes sense, since slayer seems to be of high class and a "sophisticate!"...

Actually what I ment to say was that his Haiku is odd. I know Slayer's a high class vampire and would seem the type to write poems, but his actual Haiku is strange. From what I remember he talks about dirty politicians and other stuff that has no relation to him or the game.

I guess Guilty Gear is the only game I know of with instant kill moves. Bushido Blade is ment to be realistic so instant kills are mostly ment in every strike. Time Killers seems so random it isn't really a move, just luck most the time. And I know Killer Insticnt 2 has finishers you can preform during a combo, but only if your oppennents almost dead already, so it just for flash mainly.

Apossum

12-20-2005, 03:19 AM

2poor

12-20-2005, 03:21 AM

if anyone's interested, I have a ton of fighting game related stuff for sale--
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78147
Tekken stick w/ xbox converter, MvC2 xbox, GGX2 xbox, DoA 3 japan, CvS 2...

selling mvc2 and cvs2, the two greatest fighters of all time? are you saving up for an xbox 360?

Apossum

12-20-2005, 03:39 AM

selling mvc2 and cvs2, the two greatest fighters of all time? are you saving up for an xbox 360?

more or less. 360 and college spending/book money. i've played CvS a lot and i'm not the biggest MvC fan...alpha 3 and third strike on the DC, along with X2Reload and Darkstalkers on the psp fill my 2D needs.

111111

12-20-2005, 09:28 AM

i cant wait for alpha3 for psp. even though it is a rehash : /

Apo:
hook me up with mvc2 for 35 bux! let me know :)

GuilewasNK

12-20-2005, 12:04 PM

more or less. 360 and college spending/book money. i've played CvS a lot and i'm not the biggest MvC fan...alpha 3 and third strike on the DC, along with X2Reload and Darkstalkers on the psp fill my 2D needs.

Well, hopefully I'll play you again on the 360 when I get one.

BustaUppa

12-20-2005, 12:12 PM

Time Killers seems so random it isn't really a move, just luck most the time.Actually in addition to the random decapitations, there was a universal death move performed by pressing all five attack buttons at once. It was blockable, but if it got a clean hit it would cut off all the opponent's appendages and end the match.

Why am I still talking about Time Killers?!?!?!?

Rodimus

12-20-2005, 12:28 PM

Actually in addition to the random decapitations, there was a universal death move performed by pressing all five attack buttons at once. It was blockable, but if it got a clean hit it would cut off all the opponent's appendages and end the match.

Why am I still talking about Time Killers?!?!?!?

Okay, I'll count that as a instant kill. Is it a one time use like Guilty Gear or can you do it over and over?

I remember playing Time Killers when it first came out in the arcades and I was play with my brother. I was using the dude with the chainsaw (Rancor I think) and I chopped off both of my oppennents arms. I had full life and my I only need like 2 hits to win, and I end up lossing to a bunch of "head" attacks. That pissed me off and I've never played the game since.

Appossum - PM sent

Apossum

12-20-2005, 01:17 PM

Well, hopefully I'll play you again on the 360 when I get one.

i'm sending it off tomorrow, so i'll be on tonight for one last throwdown in Ultimate :)

SilverPaw750

12-20-2005, 11:13 PM

Check out the new sig :lol:

2poor

12-20-2005, 11:45 PM

god i hate morrigan is cvs2. she can actually connect her sweep, which is annoying as fuck.

gigan54

12-20-2005, 11:55 PM

Check out the new sig :lol:

haha tha'ts a funny ass sig! so true

in other news, i had my wisdom teeth removed today and feel like shit. i think i'll give tekken 4 some of my time tomorrow as i heal up. (don't have tekken 5 :( )

Rodimus

12-21-2005, 01:55 AM

SilverPaw750

12-21-2005, 03:14 AM

Again, I was bored.
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/2048/mvcfull7zk.jpg

ValkyrieVF-1S

12-21-2005, 04:34 AM

Too much time on your hand, but that is freaking awesome! :P

apokalipze2

12-21-2005, 04:44 AM

god i hate morrigan is cvs2. she can actually connect her sweep, which is annoying as fuck.
Unfortunately she dies in 2 hits:headache:

MarkMan

12-21-2005, 06:24 AM

If anyone is interested VGO has the DoA4 stick in stock now and is selling it...

http://www.vgonetwork.com/article.aspx?id=181

$60 + $12 shipping in the US....

MarkMan

12-21-2005, 06:27 AM

Oh and... fuck... DoA 4 is Jan. 4th...

Fuckin shit, I won't get to play it that much before I go to CES :(

PS3 though. :)

GuilewasNK

12-21-2005, 12:26 PM

Silverpaw- Funny sig, I really dislike Morrigan, just a boring character. Fireball, uppercut, we've seen it already about 100 times. Talbain and L. Raptor never make it to crossovers cause Morrigan's always whoring the spotlight.

Morrigan = hentai.

Yeah, I said it. :lol:

I use her sometimes. I just wish she had a few extra moves. I like her background and story and her role in the anime.

DomLando

12-21-2005, 12:30 PM

Anyone get Neo Battle Coliseum yet?? Play Asia shipped theres out yesterday

Apossum

12-21-2005, 01:47 PM

Oh and... fuck... DoA 4 is Jan. 4th...

Fuckin shit, I won't get to play it that much before I go to CES :(

PS3 though. :)

where'd you hear that? damn they're really nickel and diming us with these dates...

MarkMan

12-21-2005, 04:27 PM

Via Tecmo, it should be news everywhere soon...

If anyone is interested I'm going to be ebaying atomiswave carts of Neo Geo Battle Colosseum, King of Fighters Neowave, and a CPS2 B board for Street Fighter Alpha 2... If anyone is interested let me know...

Rodimus

12-21-2005, 05:12 PM

Anyone get Neo Battle Coliseum yet?? Play Asia shipped theres out yesterday

Wish I had a way to play Japanese game or I'd get it. I think the PS2 version will have an exclusive character.

RelentlessRolento

12-22-2005, 02:57 AM

internets been down, so havent been around enough...

I think we can all agree that Mai/Morrigan/Chun-li/Cammy is/are very much just putting themselves out there for hentai... so...

a good note to those who need to save money: the TRU sale has some good deals on decent fighters and whatnot all $10:

Death by Degrees (crap, but I'm picking it up, just for the plain fact f the Tekken connection)
Beatdown
Darkstalkers for PSP
SF: AC
and I think possibly GG Isuka

if you want a real Midway vs. Capcom, there needs to be spme rampage characters thrown in as well as Killer 7 characters since the game will obviously have a darker mood.... nice cover though!

Haven't been playing T5 as much anymore after realizing I am at the top of my game... now all I need is the competition. Plus, I need someone to train me to be damn good at 2d fighters... i need a sensei with gargantuan lambchops, and then I have a winner...?

also, just popped in GGXX yesterday into my PS2 for old times sake... man, I miss playing as slayer, that guy has one damn nice tie... and cape... and pipe... and girl... and QCB+S (or punch???), P/K...

Kuma

12-22-2005, 03:00 AM

Apossum

12-22-2005, 08:12 AM

killer 7 characters in a 2d fighter would kick all the ass there is to kick. that would make my decade.

Apossum

12-22-2005, 09:15 AM

oh yeah, i've been meaning to ask..anyone played Eternal Fighter Zero? I hear it's the best doujin fighter...better than melty blood. but damn near impossible to get, as far as i can tell...

MarkMan

12-22-2005, 04:25 PM

I did the TRU sale today in my area too, got Ninja Gaiden, Digital Devil Saga 1, KOF Max Impact, DOA Ultimate lol... couldn't help it... I already own them, but for $10 ? Why not...

GuilewasNK

12-22-2005, 05:19 PM

I am so happy. I got the last Tekken 5 at my TRU. :D I also got KOF: Maximum Impact for PS2 (I really wanted the Xbox version but they didn't have any) and Mortal Kombat Deception: Kollector's Edition for Xbox.

I was going to get Darkstalkers for the PSP but since I don't have a PSP I passed on it.

RelentlessRolento

12-23-2005, 01:26 AM

I was going to get Darkstalkers for the PSP, but no luck :(

at least I was able to pick up Beatdown (mediocre/almost good, but there's a few unique things in it I'd like to see in other beat-em-ups), Death by Degrees (again, crap, but I havent touched it yet...), and Digital Devil Saga 1 which will prob be for trade (PM me if you want it) since I have been on a 6 year RPG diet that I plan to break when FFXII comes out. Almost picked up another copy of Tekken 5 for the hell of it... at least at $10 now nobody has an excuse to not play the game... so get it!!! (good for you Guilwasnk).

hmmm... maybe I should start making a game cover for my "Killer 7 vs (whoever)"...

I haven't been on top of it too much, but VF5 is really starting to catch my eye more. Better start getting better in VF4!

gigan54

12-23-2005, 01:44 AM

Kuma

12-23-2005, 06:09 AM

I picked up Metal Slug Advance, Metal Slug 4/5 for myself and Tekken 5 for a friend

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 09:19 AM

Tekken 5 is sweet. :)

Jinpachi is becoming one of my most hated characters though. :bomb:

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 11:32 AM

Beat it with Steve Fox and Nina Williams so far. I absolutely suck with Nina though so it took me a while with her. I love her ending. It made me chuckle. :lol:

Apossum

12-23-2005, 12:11 PM

My TRU is verrrry deceptive. Went in to get my 360 today and they told me I needed to buy 3 games with it, I said whatever and figured I'd just return them later today anyway. Then I looked in the case in the 360 games and saw about 20 copies of DoA4. I knew it was too good to be true, but I told the guy to get me one. of course, they were display copies only! Then I looked up, saw 5 copies T5, all display, went to pick out my 360 games, 10 copies of CoD2 sitting there, all display...I was joking with the guy and asked him if his store was just a front for a drug smuggling ring, to which he responded "yes, it is actually." :lol:

Guile-- wait till you see Asuka and the guy with the silver hair's ending.

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 12:27 PM

LOL! I just finished Asuka's!! Priceless! :rofl:

EDIT: Just saw Lee's too! Man, these endings are hilarious.

Kuma

12-23-2005, 03:59 PM

LOL! I just finished Asuka's!! Priceless! :rofl:

EDIT: Just saw Lee's too! Man, these endings are hilarious.

Lee was the first one i beat the game with. I did not need to see that

Rodimus

12-23-2005, 05:59 PM

My favorite Tekken ending has to be Mokujin's from Tekken 3. Anyone else remember it?

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 06:01 PM

My favorite Tekken ending has to be Mokujin's from Tekken 3. Anyone else remember it?

I can't remember.

Did it have to do with....

*spoilers*

Mokujin's family in some way?

*end spoilers*

MarkMan

12-23-2005, 07:03 PM

T3 Mokujin one was classic...

My all time favorite Tekken ending was Tekken 2 Kazuya ending... lololol.

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 07:08 PM

I'll say this much, I can tell I have been missing out on a lot by not having Tekken 5 at launch because the game is amazing. I have been playing it most of the day today. I haven't even touched my other TRU games yet.

Rodimus

12-23-2005, 07:11 PM

T3 Mokujin one was classic...

My all time favorite Tekken ending was Tekken 2 Kazuya ending... lololol.

What hapened in that one again?

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 07:14 PM

Man, I need to buy Tekken 2 and 3 again. I have all the endings on a memory card save from years ago but I need the games to see them!

Rodimus

12-23-2005, 07:50 PM

Man, I need to buy Tekken 2 and 3 again. I have all the endings on a memory card save from years ago but I need the games to see them!

Yeah, I picked up Tekken 3 a couple months ago, just to watvh the endings. Tekken always did have the best endings. He's a couple questians to start some conversation.

1. Best Opening - Soul Edge for PSX, I loved it and still looks cool.

2 .Cheesiest/ Lame Opening - Battle Arena Toshinden 2, live actors are never a good idea.

3. Best Ending - Mokujin, Tekken 3

4. Hardest character to master - Angel (KOF), very complicated move set for a 2D fighter.

5. Most Unique Character - I'd say Bridget from Guilty Gear, not only does she have a unique moveset, but his character is also difffrent. I really don't like Bridget tough. But most of the cast from GG is very unique.

6. Most overlooked - JoJo's and Evil Zone

7. Fighter you love that everyone else hates - Battle Arena Toshinden 3, I don't know why, don't make fun of me too much.

8. Good idea, awful delivery - Ehrgeiz

9. Best Music - KOF 98' I miss the fact that each character had their own theme, we don't see that anymore.

10. A comic book character you would have liked to see in MvC - Silver Surfer

Roufuss

12-23-2005, 07:58 PM

10. A comic book character you would have liked to see in MvC - Silver Surfer

Any of the Fantastic Four... Capcom dropped the ball so hard on this one.

Hell, any of the Avengers would have been nice too, other then Captain America and Iron Man.

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 08:06 PM

1. Best Opening - Soul Blade on PS One still is my favorite.

2 .Cheesiest/ Lame Opening - Battle Arena Toshinden 2 (Gotta agree with Rodimus on this one as well)

3. Best Ending - Blanka loves his mommy! Aww!!

4. Hardest character to master - For me it would be any character with 360 motions like Zangief.

5. Most Unique Character - Voldo. He must have the same "sense" Daredevil has to fight.

6. Most overlooked - Project Justice and Last Blade 2

7. Fighter you love that everyone else hates - DOA series. Not that everyone hates it but I think it is criticized unfairly at times.

8. Good idea, awful delivery - WeaponLord. Great idea but too damn tough for its own good.

9. Best Music - Soul Blade on PS One. Still unsurpassed IMO.

10. A comic book character you would have liked to see in MvC - Beast, Jubilee, Bishop and She-Hulk to name a few!

MarkMan

12-23-2005, 08:15 PM

1. Best Opening - Soul Edge/Blade(PS1), Tekken 5(PS2), Tobal 2(PS1 JPN).

2 .Cheesiest/ Lame Opening - Street Fighter The Movie

3. Best Ending - Tekken 2 - Kazuya(SPOILERS: This is the one where Devil is about to shoot a laser beat at Kazuya, then Heihachi jumps and takes the laser head on to save his son. After Kazuya shows a VERY VERY VERY small speck of sadness before he does his famous evil grin and picks up Heihachi's body and uses it as a human shield to block more lasers and throws it at Devil, finally finishing Devil with a TGF...(thunder god fist). !

4. Hardest character to master - This could go either way... I'll only speak on what I know. For Tekken... to actually master, I'd say Mishima's and Nina are among the hardest to attain the highest skill level for. Mishima's need a lot of work, but once you get the technical skill down, you're good to go... and Nina, I can still count the good Nina players on one hand...

5. Most Unique Character -I'd say Bridget too... Bridget is a guy btw. Also AI from Neo Geo Battle Colosseum.

6. Most overlooked - Tobal No. 1 & Tobal 2.

7. Fighter you love that everyone else hates - Can't think of any off hand... Maybe Soul Calibur III? Most of the players that play it competitively aren't really feelin' the game anymore...

8. Good idea, awful delivery - Mortal Kombat: Deception.

9. Best Music - TEKKEN 5: DARK RESURRECTION!.

10. A comic book character you would have liked to see in MvC - Although he's not part of the Marvel universe, I'd love to see Superman in that type of game....

Happy Holidays all!

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 08:23 PM

Man, I am REALLY hating Jinpachi right now....:bomb:

MarkMan

12-23-2005, 08:51 PM

There's easy ways to beat the AI, esp Jinpachi... :)

Any diff level... just tell me who you're using...

evanft

12-23-2005, 08:57 PM

I wish MarkMan knew when Tekken 5: DR was coming to PS2. I'm getting nervous because I passed on the $10 Tekken 5 from TRU.

MarkMan

12-23-2005, 10:54 PM

I wish I knew if it was coming out on the PS2. :(

GuilewasNK

12-23-2005, 10:56 PM

There's easy ways to beat the AI, esp Jinpachi... :)

Any diff level... just tell me who you're using...

I managed to struggle through it but I was having a hard time with Lei Wulong for some reason.

Rodimus

12-23-2005, 11:12 PM

Any of the Fantastic Four... Capcom dropped the ball so hard on this one.

Hell, any of the Avengers would have been nice too, other then Captain America and Iron Man.

I thought MvC2 had too many chracters from the X-Men already, (since they added them in from vs X-Men game) so I found it odd that they added two more characters from the X-Men universe (Cable & Marrow.) I was surprised they didn't take more characters from Spiderman also. If they had to add someone from the X-Men it should have been Nightcrawler.

And I agree with you on the Avengers and FF. Plus other less popular characters like Morg, Terrax, Hobgoblin & Cypher.

Roufuss

12-23-2005, 11:59 PM

I thought MvC2 had too many chracters from the X-Men already, (since they added them in from vs X-Men game) so I found it odd that they added two more characters from the X-Men universe (Cable & Marrow.) I was surprised they didn't take more characters from Spiderman also. If they had to add someone from the X-Men it should have been Nightcrawler.

And I agree with you on the Avengers and FF. Plus other less popular characters like Morg, Terrax, Hobgoblin & Cypher.

Yea, I mean, Morrow? Two versions of Wolverine?

I thought Cable was a cool addition, though, he wasn't really a member of the x-men at the time.

I seem to remember something about other companies had certain licenses, and Capcom didn't have an all inclusive Marvel license, which is why none of the Fantastic Four were in. Marvel Vs Capcom 2 really could have been so much more, imo. Fantastic Four is my favorite comic, and they would have fit into this game so so so perfectly.

Would have loved to have seen Hawkeye and Thor, as well. I mean, I can't even believe they didn't use Daredevil, or Ghost Rider.

I wish it would be possible for them to make a true Marvel Vs Capcom 3.

evanft

12-24-2005, 12:12 AM

I wish I knew if it was coming out on the PS2. :(

Dammit. It's just that I know they'll annouce it as soon as I buy Tekken 5.

Rodimus

12-24-2005, 12:21 AM

Yea, I mean, Morrow? Two versions of Wolverine?

I thought Cable was a cool addition, though, he wasn't really a member of the x-men at the time..

I never really liked Cable, he just seemed like a cheaper version of Cyclops. And I know Cable's not really an X-Man, but he's part of the X-Men story. Was Amingo and Ruby Heart in any other games other than MVC2 or are they spceificly designed for that game?

GuilewasNK

12-24-2005, 10:48 AM

So Christie's third costume is just...

*spoilers*

Eddy Gordo?

*end spoilers*

xenoman80

12-24-2005, 11:13 AM

I Luv Fighters But Naruto 4 Rocks May Not Be Everyones Taste.

MarkMan

12-24-2005, 04:34 PM

IMO, Naruto GT series are great party fighters :)

Yes, Eddy is the 3P outfit for Christie, in DR he has his own character box... so whoever purchased the costume in the arcade gets a bonus item for Christie... (I LOST MY EDDY CARD!!! 450,000 G down the drain!) :(

2poor

12-24-2005, 11:32 PM

I never really liked Cable, he just seemed like a cheaper version of Cyclops. And I know Cable's not really an X-Man, but he's part of the X-Men story. Was Amingo and Ruby Heart in any other games other than MVC2 or are they spceificly designed for that game?

yes, both were created just for mvc2.

Apossum

12-25-2005, 12:08 AM

mmmmmm....guilty gear x2 reload on the psp is secksy! no problem pulling off specials, though the shoryuken motion can be a pain. I hope Capcom took some pointers for Alpha 3...

MarkMan

12-25-2005, 12:41 PM

Really bored this Christmas morning...

Been playing Tekken 5 for a few hours now...

Practicing King iSW juggles on pad lol.

GuilewasNK

12-25-2005, 12:43 PM

Really bored this Christmas morning...

Been playing Tekken 5 for a few hours now...

Practicing King iSW juggles on pad lol.

I really wish it was online enabled. I'll probably play more this afternoon.

I haven't been doing much but I have to assemble a chair in a bit.

RelentlessRolento

12-25-2005, 06:42 PM

1. Best Opening - Tekken 5... in fact, it's the best intro to any game I've ever played... also KOF '98

2 .Cheesiest/ Lame Opening - KOF Max Impact

3. Best Ending - Either Hwoarang's T5 ending or (cant remember which alpha... 2?) dan hibiki's that was a Art of Fighting parody

4. Hardest character to master - I have enough of a hardass time playing the good 2d characters... so yeah. Probably Geese for me since his damn super is too hard to do! (I cna do it perfectly on the NGPC oddly enough though...)

5. Most Unique Character - Probably Bryan Fury... he's really no stereotype of anything except for himself... a deranged cop who got killed and was brought back to life as a cyborg... (no robocop refrences please!)

6. Most overlooked - Project Justice and Waku Waku 7, and possibly Darkstalkers, but I can't give it that much credit.

7. Fighter you love that everyone else hates - Pocket Fighter... the control scheme was just oddly appealing!

8. Good idea, awful delivery - Any of the fighters that came out on the N64

9. Best Music - T5 and T5DR... it's the only music in a fighter that always gets me pumped no matter how many times I hear it... the wolf stage music in T5DR just kicks too much ass anyway.

10. A comic book character you would have liked to see in MvC - Deadpool... this guy has so many possabilitys, and yet he's always overlooked. Runner up would be Punisher.

merry christmas... even though everyone sounds bored as hell... I got crap this year since nothing is out that I want till next year, but at least my birthday is soon. Dosn't GG Judgment come out next month?

2poor

12-25-2005, 07:14 PM

4. Hardest character to master - I have enough of a hardass time playing the good 2d characters... so yeah. Probably Geese for me since his damn super is too hard to do! (I cna do it perfectly on the NGPC oddly enough though...)

which version of geese?

RelentlessRolento

12-25-2005, 07:31 PM

the hard version... ... really I don't know... I just remember it was geese...

MarkMan

12-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Rising Storm?

:)

2poor

12-25-2005, 08:17 PM

Neo Rave combo?

RelentlessRolento

12-25-2005, 08:50 PM

i think it's the rising storm one... the one where he slams the floor and there's a big blue explosion or something... I really don't know... I love playing as him in Match of the Millenium, but every other game he just is too hard for me (plus I suck with his reversals)

Rodimus

12-25-2005, 11:07 PM

It's actually Raging Storm, but the alot of movelists call it Raising-a-Storm. If you were to say Raging Storm with a Japanese accent it would sound more like Raising-a-Storm. But anyways that's the move alot of people have problems with (DB,HCB,DF + P). Being a good Zangief player helps cause you learn alot of shortcuts with the d-pad. Along with Yamazaki, Geese is one of the best defensive players. I like using Geese alot.

RelentlessRolento

12-25-2005, 11:21 PM

I never was a great zangief player (I have a ton of respect for zangief players, but can't play them... the closest I'll ever enjoy that fighting style is with Birdie). 360 is not my friend.

yeah, it's kinda sad kuz my fave KOF characters are the ones I suck with like Billy Kane, Geese, and Yamazaki... damn it! why am I a better fighter with Kyosuke (or whatever his name is... the psycho team boy who eats the rice balls and lost his powers in KOF 99...)...

I've noticed that T5DR is starting to show up at more arcades soon... I highly doubt Miami will get any... :(

If anybody lives by a TRU with the Darkstalkers for PSP, LMK cuz I might be looking to get it...

MarkMan

12-25-2005, 11:38 PM

I'll try to keep all the locations updated on www.tekken.vg as soon as places start getting US kits for DR.

Rodimus

12-25-2005, 11:38 PM

Rolento - I think you're mean Kensho. He's a decent fighter and plays a bit like a shoto, maybe that's why people don't care for him too much (tired of the style) and why SNK changed his moves-et so much in 99'.

If I get a chance I'll check Boomers in Dania Beach (Between Ft. Lauderdale, and Miami) they're pretty good about getting new games. They got 2 SvC Chaos machines on launch, I was surprised. But be warned, they don't maintain the machines very well. About 50% of the machines are broken in some way.

EDIT - Cosplay nonsense, enjoy:

http://www.cyberfanatix.com/img/cosplay/2005/wall.jpg

RelentlessRolento

12-25-2005, 11:52 PM

thanks for the lookout Rodimus. I actually like the change to Kensho (that's the name!) made in 99... he's alot more of an original fighter now then his old shoto '98 self. I love his Dragon Punch move (the one where he pummelse you liek crazy).

GuilewasNK

12-26-2005, 12:34 AM

Cosplay is cool. Espscially when the ladies dress as Mai!

Logg

12-26-2005, 02:03 AM

Anyone get Neo Battle Coliseum yet?? Play Asia shipped theres out yesterday

I got it, its very neat, I played my bro 12 matches in a row and never lost. The loading time is pretty slow, but there are a lot of guys. I do not know that many Neo Geo Guys but still a pretty good 2-D Fighter.

Rodimus

12-26-2005, 02:59 AM

Cosplay is cool. Espscially when the ladies dress as Mai!

Don't see too many "good looking" girls cosplay. Doesn't fit the demographic of anime and video games. Anyways I really dislike cosplayers, can't stand em'.

Logg - Thanks for the mini review, as long as it's a solid 2D fighter I'm happy.

SilverPaw750

12-26-2005, 03:50 AM

Don't see too many "good looking" girls cosplay. Doesn't fit the demographic of anime and video games. Anyways I really dislike cosplayers, can't stand em'.
Bingo. I can't stand the weird Anime-Obsessed kids who've lost a grip on reality. I know a few who think they're half-elf, think they're a dragon tamer, or simply aren't down to earth in general. And for cos-players: for god sakes people, it's just a game. The characters aren't real. Let's stop dressing up like them, and move along. :roll:

GuilewasNK

12-26-2005, 09:51 AM

Don't see too many "good looking" girls cosplay.

Try this one. :lol:

(PG-13 BTW)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/886/cosplayi4do1ph.jpg

The cosplay stuff isn't for everyone. I don't care for obsessive people doing it. Some look great, some are crap. I don't mind seeing the ladies dress up though. :)

evanft

12-26-2005, 10:32 AM

Got Soul Calibur 3. Holy shit there's a lot of stuff to unlock! Anyone else notice that teh AI becomes insanely brutal in the last few battles of Tale of Souls? TO beat them, I had to block and wait for an oppurtunity to throw. I was using Zasalalamememel, btw.

DomLando

12-26-2005, 01:34 PM

DOA 4 is still listed on gs and eb's websites coming out this week. anyone know if this is true or not??

RelentlessRolento

12-26-2005, 03:37 PM

yeah evanft... initially SCIII can be real cheap, but kinda evens out as you learn to play characters more. But yes, the AI is cheap...

:lol: I hate bringing this up, but that pic GuilwasNK... :lol: I reccognize it from a porn series. If you really want to get everyone's attention show the "skin" pics from that series. Plus, the girl in the pic ain't a cosplayer... more like adult pornstar or something...

So it still proves a majority of cosplaying girls really do not look that great. I've only seen about 2 or 3 good looking girl cosplayers. And yes, I can't stand them either, but ever since gamers became less geeky, the cosplayers took the role as the "geekiest/sad" people around now. I respect what they do, but usually not the person themselves (if that makes any sense... to me...?).

Moving on: I just started playing death by degrees. I can say I am intrigued by the control of the game. It may feel a bit too simplistic to me, but after realizing what is possible during some combat in the game, it can get a bit more interesting (not by too much). So far it's a decent game, but I think between Beatdown and Death by Degrees (both TRU sale games), I like Beatdown better. Plus Nina Williams dosn't totally look like herself in-game all the time and starts looking more like pornstar Briana Banks (again with the porn! what kinda life do I live????).

GuilewasNK

12-26-2005, 03:51 PM

:lol: I hate bringing this up, but that pic GuilwasNK... :lol: I reccognize it from a porn series. If you really want to get everyone's attention show the "skin" pics from that series. Plus, the girl in the pic ain't a cosplayer... more like adult pornstar or something...

You know, I thought I had seen that pic before. I couldn't remember the origin of it though. I guess she is a "pro" cosplayer. :lol:

I enjoyed the Death By Degrees demo when it came out. I have the full game but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Hopefully Namco can have their "Ninja Gaiden" like DOA had. I like the idea of side stories like the MK Special Forces games and such. As long as they are done well that is.

RelentlessRolento

12-26-2005, 04:22 PM

yeah, I think the only good side action sereis from a fighter was Ninja Gaiden... pretty much everything else has been a flop (maybe not Shaolin Monks, but I haven't spent enough time with it to know).

I still dream of a Tekken based action game starring Bryan Fury and Kazuya... oh well... if I get a job at Namco soemdy maybe I'll sneak in afew comments, but yeah right...

gigan54

12-26-2005, 04:43 PM

Rolento - I think you're mean Kensho.

Isn't it kensou? that's the way it's always been spelled. here i am just nitpicking though. yeah i thought 99 kensou was a pretty good character, he had great rushing special moves that had high priority.

and on a side note, that cosplay chick ( or pornstar as I've found out) is really hot. too bad i don't know where i can find the set .:cry:

RelentlessRolento

12-26-2005, 04:47 PM

Isn't it kensou? that's the way it's always been spelled. here i am just nitpicking though. yeah i thought 99 kensou was a pretty good character, he had great rushing special moves that had high priority.

and on a side note, that cosplay chick ( or pornstar as I've found out) is really hot. too bad i don't know where i can find the set .:cry:

You might not want the set. It has some of that weird ass rope torture stuff near the end of it...... I'm sure there's a torrent or soemthing of it floating around...

geeze, I need to shoot my foot. I say too much...

SilverPaw750

12-26-2005, 04:50 PM

evanft

12-26-2005, 04:53 PM

I need to buy an arcade stick. Moving around in SC3 is too hard with the digital pad.

gigan54

12-26-2005, 04:53 PM

You might not want the set. It has some of that weird ass rope torture stuff near the end of it...... I'm sure there's a torrent or soemthing of it floating around...

geeze, I need to shoot my foot. I say too much...

i think i'll take your word on it. sounds a little strange

GuilewasNK

12-26-2005, 07:01 PM

i think i'll take your word on it. sounds a little strange

Try these Mai cosplays.

More PG-13 due to thong.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2640/mai1.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8133/mai2.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2545/mai3.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5858/mai4.jpg

Not quite the right color in the costume but I ain't complaining.

gigan54

12-26-2005, 07:32 PM

Try these Mai cosplays.

More PG-13 due to thong.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2640/mai1.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8133/mai2.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2545/mai3.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5858/mai4.jpg

Not quite the right color in the costume but I ain't complaining.

actually it IS the right color. she's cosplaying as mai from fatal fury 2 i believe. still nice ass!

2poor

12-26-2005, 07:43 PM

king of fighters XI goodness
fixed:

http://rapidshare.de/files/9879251/kof1120.wmv.html

i wish it would come out on ps2 :(

GuilewasNK

12-26-2005, 08:04 PM

king of fighters XI goodness
fixed:

http://rapidshare.de/files/9879251/kof1120.wmv.html

i wish it would come out on ps2 :(

Looks pretty cool IMO. Thanks for the post. Has that even come out on home consoles in Japan yet?

2poor

12-26-2005, 08:08 PM

as far as i know its only out in the arcades. the graphics are so crisp. i would upload some more match videos, but i deleted them a while ago. #-o

TheUnsane1

12-27-2005, 01:02 AM

DOA 4 is still listed on gs and eb's websites coming out this week. anyone know if this is true or not??
Doacentral has it coming out also they seem to be a valid source as DrDogg a mod on the site is writing the guide for the game and has doa listed on his live account also. (Markman also has made posts there that I have seen)

MarkMan

12-27-2005, 02:00 AM

The main concern for the delay is due to something having to do with auto log-on with XBL. Microsoft is responsible for the delays, so if it does not come out on the 28th(which seems that way supposedly), you can blame MS for the push into Jan.

DomLando

12-27-2005, 02:26 AM

i hope it comes out....even though im not the biggest DOA fan i need a fighting game for 360

evanft

12-27-2005, 03:57 PM

Soul Calibur III=Good.

Setsuka is FAST. In fact, the entire game feels fucking fast.

DomLando

12-27-2005, 04:06 PM

SCIII is good, but its kind of getting boring to me already. I mean its not really a sequel, its just an update to II. Multiplayer is still great, i just hate that it's on PS2...

evanft

12-27-2005, 04:25 PM

I never played SC2, so the jump is much different for me.

RelentlessRolento

12-27-2005, 05:32 PM

Yeah, SCIII is a blast, but can just get a little repetive after a while. It feels like it's lacking something, but I have no idea what it is since the game plays great. Maybe make the game harder to play...? IMO some moves really don't feel like you're doing them... example: I hit A+B with Mitsurigi and he does a two hit combo... it would feel alot nicer to me to do A+B then A or something liek that... plus it gives you more control, thus improving all the characters' mind games. Just a thought.

I need to start looking for tourneys in my area or in orlando/tampa... I want to start competing proffesionally (if that's even a real thing), but need somewhere to start.

MarkMan

12-27-2005, 06:05 PM

Competing professionally for fighting games is definately a real thing. :) It's just not as glorified or recognized as other games/genres.

Roufuss

12-27-2005, 06:51 PM

I need to start looking for tourneys in my area or in orlando/tampa... I want to start competing proffesionally (if that's even a real thing), but need somewhere to start.

There would have to be arcades in Tampa first.

There is only two that I know of... one is in a bowling alley and stopped getting new games, and the other is some crap run by Namco or Sega and half the games are busted and out of date, and it's mostly for people to drink.

Rodimus

12-27-2005, 07:21 PM

SCIII is good, but its kind of getting boring to me already. I mean its not really a sequel, its just an update to II. Multiplayer is still great, i just hate that it's on PS2...

That's what I tought about the improvment between SCI & II. I haven't touched SCIII in weeks, but I still play Tekken 5 every so often.

RelentlessRolento

12-27-2005, 07:37 PM

Well, I'll be on the lookout for local tourneys, but if nothing shows up I may just pull one together myself on campus since there is a large number of people there who play fighters.

evanft

12-27-2005, 08:18 PM

Rodimus

12-27-2005, 11:02 PM

I find that the AI in the later stages of Tales of Souls really hurts that mind. It basically ramps up to a practically unfair level and somewhat ruins the fun of playing the game.

Also, it's alsmost like the game is designed with an arcade stick specifically in mind, as it's really hard to take advantage of many of the 8WR moves or anything that requires hitting multiple buttons at once.

I thought the ToS was pretty easy, but then I chessed out alot with the computer. All ya gotta do is find a move that it has a problem defending against and keep doing it over and over. Example: Monk - Discipline Nunchuks and keep doing A+B, A+B, over and over again.

MarkMan

12-27-2005, 11:30 PM

The CPU AI is retarded, I just gamesharked the shit out of the game so I can have everything available...

For 8WR moves... you can do them instantly by double tapping... so instead of 8WR u/f+A you can do u/f,u/f+A...

Notation for SC if you wanna get into it though goes by the keypad system that Japan uses for their fighting games...

789
456
123 For example... Cassandra's qcf+B would be 236B... wooo ok. :)

evanft

12-27-2005, 11:48 PM

Thanks for the tips.

Apossum

12-28-2005, 03:28 PM

stores in my area are saying tomorrow for DoA4...not holding my breath.

here's the intro:
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_2438_en.html

MadFlava

12-28-2005, 03:42 PM

LOL! I just finished Asuka's!! Priceless! :rofl:

EDIT: Just saw Lee's too! Man, these endings are hilarious.

I have to say that Xiaoyu's ending was the biggest surprise for me. I won't spoil it for anyone but try to get it next. It's pretty wacky.

GuilewasNK

12-28-2005, 04:57 PM

I have to say that Xiaoyu's ending was the biggest surprise for me. I won't spoil it for anyone but try to get it next. It's pretty wacky.

Oh yeah! I got that one the other day. Very cool IMO.

MarkMan

12-28-2005, 04:57 PM

Apossum: We can only hope! But from what's goin on at DOAC everyone is wondering wtf is goin on lol.

MarkMan

12-28-2005, 04:59 PM

Ohhh good news!

TECMO ANNOUNCES SHIP DATE FOR DEAD OR ALIVE 4
Boasting a lightning fast fighting engine, worldwide online capabilities, and unsurpassed visual beauty, Dead or Alive 4 will be the premier title when it explodes onto store shelves on December 29, 2005

TORRANCE, Calif. December 28, 2005— Tecmo proudly announced today that Dead or Alive® 4, the highly anticipated next installment in its hugely popular fighting series, will ship to major retailers nationwide on December 29, 2005. The highly awaited title for the next-generation Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft will set the new standard for fighting games, boasting the most advanced online fighting system in the world via the Xbox Live ® online game service. Dead or Alive 4 will break new ground on Xbox Live featuring simultaneous 4-player tag battle for the first time in the series, up to 16-players online at one time, and a stylized and accessible online lobby system that allows players to choose an avatar and a “theme” for their house which will serve as their online lobby that other players can visit to get matched up for a fight.

Featuring the most fast and furious fighting engine to ever grace a video game, Dead or Alive 4 is positioned to not only take the fighting community by storm but to raise the bar for the fighting genre when it blasts onto store shelves later this month only on Xbox 360. An impressive line-up of new, old, and unlockable secret characters, breathtaking, “Hollywood Style” cinematic ending movies, and in-depth interactive stages round out the list of Dead or Alive 4 features poised to make the game a “must buy”.

“Dead or Alive 4’s unsurpassed visual beauty, worldwide online capabilities, and finely tuned fighting engine make it the game to own on Xbox 360,” John Inada, Tecmo’s General Manager, said. “No other fighting game on the market today will be able to match its depth, strategy, and awe-inspiring visuals. Dead or Alive 4 will be a force to be reckoned with.”

About Dead or Alive 4

Taking advantage of the superior technology of the new Xbox 360 system, Dead or Alive 4 will be the defining gaming experience on the next-generation console as it will encompass all that Xbox 360 has to offer, giving players one of the most rewarding digital fighting experiences to date on a video game console.

Dead or Alive 4 will be the leader in fighting games as it once again raises the bar in both online and offline fighting. By utilizing the advanced technology of the new Xbox 360 hardware, Dead or Alive 4 will redefine 3-D graphics as the attention to detail is astounding from each strand of the character’s hair to each cherry blossom falling from the sky, creating the most visually beautiful and realistic looking video game to date.

Dead or Alive 4’s unsurpassed online capabilities via Xbox Live® online game service will set the stage for all online 3-D fighting games to follow as more players will be able to play Dead or Alive 4 simultaneously online to compete in larger more impressive Xbox Live tournaments around the globe. Dead or Alive 4’s online world will also include innovative and interactive online lobbies featuring voice and text chat, detailed online scoreboards, and a unique online lobby system that allows players to choose an avatar and a “theme” for their house which will serve as their online lobby that other players can visit to get matched up for a fight.

Dead or Alive 4 also boasts incredible new interactive stages, an all star line-up of old and new favorite characters, and the most complex DOA countering system yet, all adding up to the must-have video game to own along with Xbox 360.

For the most up to date information and newest action-packed fighting screens showcasing all the new DOA characters for Dead or Alive 4, check out the newly relaunched and super cool Tecmo website at www.tecmogames.com . Dead or Alive 4 will be the premier holiday title when it hits retailers nationwide on December 29, 2005, only on the new Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft.

About Tecmo
Tecmo®, Inc., located in Torrance, California, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Tokyo based Tecmo, LTD, a publicly traded company on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Tecmo, Inc. is a leading publisher of video games for next generation consoles, handheld hardware, and mobile devices including those manufactured by Microsoft, Sony Computer Entertainment America, and Nintendo. Tecmo has gained worldwide recognition with product lines such as Tecmo Bowl™, Ninja Gaiden ®, Gallop Racer®, Fatal Frame®, Monster Rancher®, TRAPT™, Tokobot™ and Dead or Alive®. More information on Tecmo can be found at www.tecmogames.com

Xbox 360 and Xbox Live are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/ or other countries.

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RelentlessRolento

12-28-2005, 05:16 PM

Oddly enough T5 has great endings for almost all the characters. No matter how much you hate the characters, the endings usually kick ass.

Since I'm on the subject of Tekken: It's kinda fun to be playing Death by Degrees and see some Tekken story show up here and there (I love the Tekken story line, even though it's pretty far fetched). One part of the story has one of the main villians discussing the Tekken Force with Ehihachi Mishima, as well as Heihachi recognizing Nina (I think DeathBD took place before the first or second Tekken game). Also, Nina and Anna storys seem to be fleshed out... some Boskonovitch stuff is in their too as well as loads and loads of Posters for Tekken 3, 4, 5... and that's not even mentioning the mouse pads found by computers...

MadFlava

12-28-2005, 05:18 PM

Too bad I can't buy another DOA game until I can rack up 50 wins in Survival on DOA Ultimate. Argh. Stupid gold coin! If it was just 25 or 30 wins that would be a whole lot more forgiveable.

Hmm Death by Degrees. I may have to pick that up at the TRU sale. I mean it's only $10 anyway. Worth giving it a shot. I wonder if any of my OPM disc have a demo of that game?

Kuma

12-28-2005, 05:34 PM

Does anyone know if the Kyo and Iori arcade sticks are out in Japan yet? I need a stick bad and those look pretty good

GuilewasNK

12-28-2005, 05:36 PM

Hmm Death by Degrees. I may have to pick that up at the TRU sale. I mean it's only $10 anyway. Worth giving it a shot. I wonder if any of my OPM disc have a demo of that game?

It's on OPM disc number 90.

MarkMan

12-28-2005, 05:50 PM

Does anyone know if the Kyo and Iori arcade sticks are out in Japan yet? I need a stick bad and those look pretty good

I believe the preorders opened up last week for them. They should be shipping them out soon too. I'd find more information but I need to ask my Japanese speaking friend. The Sega Logistics arcade panel sticks right?

Rodimus

12-28-2005, 06:05 PM

Markman, Did you play DOA4 yet, I know it's not out till the next couple days but I have a couple questions if you have.

MarkMan

12-28-2005, 06:14 PM

Rodimus

12-28-2005, 06:23 PM

I haven't tried it, my friend and co-worker got it in though, I might play it with them tonight.

Will most likely get my copy tomorrow. :crosses fingers:

While I still have time before Dark Resurrection comes out.

A friend and myself are intrested in playing after we heard you can play 2 on 2 team battles online. But are curious if both can play on the same team on the same X-Box.

evanft

12-28-2005, 07:05 PM

Is there a good arcade stick available for less than $100?

SilverPaw750

12-28-2005, 07:07 PM

Is there a good arcade stick available for less than $100?
Get the Street Fighter stick and modd it with Happ Parts with the instructions at www.arcadestickmonk.com
It'll end up about $100.

Or get a mas, I guess.

evanft

12-28-2005, 07:11 PM

I could get a HRAP from MarkMan for around that price. :-(

MarkMan

12-28-2005, 07:18 PM

What system are you looking for?

evanft

12-28-2005, 07:23 PM

PS2, for SC3 and VF4. I'm gonna get a convertor for the Xbox and DC.

And what is up with all the SC3 hate from the hardcore fighting fans? Is it just that when you're playing at a super-high level, you start to notice every little thing wrong with a game?

kristianator

12-28-2005, 07:32 PM

evanft

12-28-2005, 07:34 PM

when you're playing high-level play, every little thing matters.

Hmmm...well I'm not playing on a high-level, so I guess I really don't notice anything like that. Except for the retarded AI, though.

RelentlessRolento

12-28-2005, 07:40 PM

SCIII just seems to have lost some of its depth really. It really hasn't evolved since the original SC. THey really need to start implimenting some new suff into it. Tekken has evolved more by adding a great reversal system as well as always improving their juggle physics. VF just always gets better for no needed explanations. Oh well...

Speaking of VF... in VF4Evo those one handed combo videos are insane. Who the hell is that guy?

evanft

12-28-2005, 07:44 PM

Well, like I said before, I went right from SC1 to SC3, so maybe my perspective is different.

kristianator

12-28-2005, 07:49 PM

Hmmm...well I'm not playing on a high-level, so I guess I really don't notice anything like that. Except for the retarded AI, though.

as a 2d enthusiast with no interest in 3d fighters, i'm pretty mediocre at games like tekken and soul calibur, and i play against other mediocre players.. so generally speaking, i don't notice the little things either. i think that what makes it funner for me and you though.

like if i'm playing cvs2, and i'm getting roll cancel-flash kicked the shit out of me non-stop, all i'm thinking is "FUCK YOU ROLL CANCEL ALKWJFOIWAE"

if i'm playing tekken 5, who knows what the fuck is going on on either joystick cuz me and the other guy don't know shit and we're just throwing out whatever strings and juggles we knew from back in tekken 2 and 3 that might still work, much less use any high-level tactics

i personally find the latter more fun but less satisfying..

kristianator

12-28-2005, 07:53 PM

RelentlessRolento

12-28-2005, 08:53 PM

-Tekken 5 all the way in music
-Guilty Gear XX - Venom's stage and Kyo's stage
-Ken stage
... and more

evanft

12-28-2005, 09:29 PM

Is SC2 worth getting if I already own SC3?

DomLando

12-28-2005, 09:43 PM

I still think SC is the best in the series. Personally i think SCII is worth getting if you already own three but not for PS2. THere is noticable slowdown sometimes that does not occur in the Xbox version. Not sure about the GC version though. And if you really like Link or Spawn that can sway you to one of those versions. You can also find the game pretty cheap now

evanft

12-28-2005, 09:44 PM

I was planning on getting the Xbox version, as I own one. :-)

Anyone else got an opinion?

Rodimus

12-28-2005, 10:57 PM

Is SC2 worth getting if I already own SC3?

I wouldn't, unless you really got a thing for Heihatchi, Link, Spawn, or Necrid. As soon as I got SCIII I sold SCII.

GuilewasNK

12-29-2005, 12:29 AM

so i'm loading up my new ipod video that my lady gave me for christmas with a crapload of ocremixes and it got me thinking about fighting game soundtracks.

what's everyone's favorite music/theme from a fighting game?

i'm pretty partial to:
dudley stage - sf3: third strike
ken stage - sf2: world warrior

My favorite is Rock's theme from Soul Blade. I enjoy the original and Khan Super Session versions. It's just a mighty powerful theme.

apokalipze2

12-29-2005, 04:38 AM

Guilty Gear #R soundtrack, Original and Korean
Yun stage-3s

DomLando

12-29-2005, 08:20 AM

So DOA 4 should be out tomorrow. Ign posted there review and gave it a 9.0. It's not a bad read go check it out http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/678/678269p1.html. Anyway they note changes to the counter system and a couple other changes. I'm pretty happy that you have less time tull off a counter now. It might make the game a little more complex. Online fighting was said to be 99% lag free which is a very big deal to me. I'm not the biggest fan of the DOA series but for some reason I want to play this one. I'll let you guys no how it is whatever day it decides to show up in stores. Either today or tomorrow.

MadFlava

12-29-2005, 11:46 AM

My favorite is Rock's theme from Soul Blade. I enjoy the original and Khan Super Session versions. It's just a mighty powerful theme.

I guess my favorite music from a fighting game right now is the waterfall stage music in Tekken 5 "Formless Like Water".

And Ryu's stage music in Street Fighter 3 - 3rd Strike.

evanft

12-29-2005, 12:02 PM

I wouldn't, unless you really got a thing for Heihatchi, Link, Spawn, or Necrid. As soon as I got SCIII I sold SCII.

Got it. I don't, so I won't.

Purple Flames

12-29-2005, 04:08 PM

what's everyone's favorite music/theme from a fighting game?

Guile Stage - Street Fighter II
Just about everyone's stage music in Third Strike
Spiderman's Theme - Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter
The entire SAF2 OST

Kuma

12-29-2005, 05:00 PM

I was planning on getting the Xbox version, as I own one. :-)

Anyone else got an opinion?

If youre a completist and have to have everything, it can be had REAL cheap these days. Other than that SC3 does the job.

MadFlava

12-29-2005, 05:08 PM

So I sent a quick email to SNK Playmore about the possibility of the JPN PS2 Fatal Fury Mark of Wolves coming to US...

So I notice that this game was released in Japan for the PS2. What is
the possibility that you might release this game in the USA for either
the PS2 or Xbox. Ever since Capcom vs. SNK 2 I've been wanting to play
Rock Howard in another game. Please bring Mark of Wolves to the USA!

I got this response from SNK Playmore today:

PS2 only in Japan. Sony will not allow in USA. Hopefully someday a new
version in USA.

Man, if the hold up of this game not coming out to the USA is Sony that is extremely disappointing. It appears they only let SNK bring out 2-D games to the PS2 if it's a compilation like Metal Slug 4/5 and King of Fighter 03/04. Now I'm seriously looking at ways to play import games on my PS2 because I feel I'm going to miss out on some awesome fighters that will never be released here.

xenoman80

12-29-2005, 05:39 PM

best music in fighting game has to be dudley's stage in sf3 3rd strike!

GuilewasNK

12-29-2005, 05:48 PM

Man, if Sony USA is gonna deny all these title then they should just say to hell with region-encoding for future systems. That way people can play what THEY want not what they are told.

Rodimus

12-29-2005, 05:57 PM

So does the DOA4 2 on 2 team battles online allow you to play on the same team on the same X-Box?

gigan54

12-29-2005, 05:59 PM

Man, if Sony USA is gonna deny all these title then they should just say to hell with region-encoding for future systems. That way people can play what THEY want not what they are told.

very true. i'm seriously considering modding my ps2 just for the import fighters. no one should hold back mark of the wolves or the last blade series from us.

GuilewasNK

12-29-2005, 06:30 PM

very true. i'm seriously considering modding my ps2 just for the import fighters. no one should hold back mark of the wolves or the last blade series from us.

I have Last Blade 1 and 2 for Neo-Rage but I want to get the Dreamcast version of Last Blade 2 when I find it.

gigan54

12-29-2005, 06:32 PM

I have Last Blade 1 and 2 for Neo-Rage but I want to get the Dreamcast version of Last Blade 2 when I find it.
it's out on the ps2, but japan only ( and with online play too :cry: )

MadFlava

12-29-2005, 07:47 PM

it's out on the ps2, but japan only ( and with online play too :cry: )

I wish I didn't hear that. PS2 has a serious lack of online fighting games here in the states and to hear that is just make me sad that Sony of America is stingy about approving the release of 2-D fighters. How could they green light Capcom Fighting Evolution and not these great SNK games.

MarkMan

12-29-2005, 08:21 PM

Neo Geo Battle Colosseum has a gang of new features, and it is online as well... :(

Like 12 new chars or so I hear.

Purple Flames

12-29-2005, 08:47 PM

I have Last Blade 1 and 2 for Neo-Rage but I want to get the Dreamcast version of Last Blade 2 when I find it.

Nowadays I'm REALLY kicking myself for not buying game like Last Blade 2, MotW, and KOF Evolution for DC when they were like 10 bucks at Best buy >_<

Rodimus

12-29-2005, 10:58 PM

Neo Geo Battle Colosseum has a gang of new features, and it is online as well... :(

Like 12 new chars or so I hear.

I'm sure we'll see it on X-Box later in 2006.

SilverPaw750

12-29-2005, 11:48 PM

Out of curiousity, were there any extra characters in the home versions of MvC2 or CvS2 that weren't in arcades? I know that SFA3 at home had Guile, but what about those two?

Purple Flames

12-29-2005, 11:50 PM

Out of curiousity, were there any extra characters in the home versions of MvC2 or CvS2 that weren't in arcades? I know that SFA3 at home had Guile, but what about those two?

Nope, none at all.

Kuma

12-30-2005, 04:58 PM

So.....did anyone pick up DOA4 yet? Ill be on Live later and would like to play some familiar faces

MarkMan

12-30-2005, 06:46 PM

I did, hopefully we can play.

Apossum

12-30-2005, 08:37 PM

been playing for a few hours...it's been a blast getting caught up with the many changes made to the game. it's so damn fast and brutal, I can't believe it. You can tell they put most of their time and energy into the gameplay this time around. my only complaint is the hair clipping ;)
anyway, I'm gonna hop online in a half hour or so..

Apossum

12-30-2005, 08:38 PM

So does the DOA4 2 on 2 team battles online allow you to play on the same team on the same X-Box?

yep.

JEKKI

12-30-2005, 10:29 PM

Out of curiousity, were there any extra characters in the home versions of MvC2 or CvS2 that weren't in arcades? I know that SFA3 at home had Guile, but what about those two?CVS2 had God Rugal and Shin Akuma,

certified cheap!!

RelentlessRolento

12-31-2005, 03:08 AM

played DoA4 today here in Puerto Rico. I'm actually on my cousin's computer (which not surprisingly has a bunch of pron lying around on it...). It's not as impressive as I was hoping it to be, but still fun. I'm sure 90% of the improvements were the online modes, but I may be wrong.

I only want a 360 for this game, but it's not enough to make me buy one...

one minor complaint I have is that all the characters that have had great costumes in past games now have oddly or just bad clothing, and the characters that use to have bad clothing actually look better... ???

Apossum

12-31-2005, 04:51 AM

damn....can't remember the last I was up till 3 playing a game :lol: well, doa4 has blown away my expectations. Ultimate has been so completely bland for the past 6 months and this is just what I needed. here's my minireview:

to really understand the changes you'd have to have played the other games, but in general, it's a much tighter and more aggressive game, with all the old reliable safeguards removed, and many moves rearranged and tons of new ones added. the different stuns you can put your opponent into make for a lot of interesting set ups. the game just punishes the hell out wasted moves, which I love. it feels kinda tekken-ish in that sense, kinda like once you hit the ground in a corner in tekken, you're screwed, if your opponent knows what he is doing(from my noob perspective.) I can't wait to see how this game will be played in a couple months.

online is exactly the same, besides the lobby, zack's market, and the amount of people a room can hold. Story mode is quite entertaining, though I doubt I'll revisit it much now that I've unlocked all I can from it. the story is more comprehensible and cohesive this time. you see one story from all the character's perspectives, apart from a few side stories, and you play through them all to get the big picture. of course, it all ties together with helena's ending, which was pretty awesome (even for someone like me who doesn't care about game stories that much.) Mad props to team ninja for putting a lot of effort into tying the doa story together. Doubt there wll be another doa game after it though...there's been rumors about that and the ending is very conclusive.

gigan54

12-31-2005, 04:23 PM

kof cosplay video it's done very well. i love the iori finish!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1874056191782786596&q=kof

MarkMan

12-31-2005, 04:40 PM

DoA4 is an improvement, but IMO, not as much as I hoped... fuzzy gaurd is still in... I like how you can charge some throws now... the counter/reversal issue still plays a huge role, but it's no problem if you know how to punish it(IE Hi-C throw).

But it's fun playing it on a stick lol.

DomLando

12-31-2005, 04:41 PM

Picked up DOA yesterday. Didnt get a chance to play it until today, but its defenitly the best in the series. The final boss sucks though and is cheap, but that is expected. It's harder to pull off counters now which makes the game a lot more fun to me. It serperates button mashers and pepole that know what there doing. Im unlocking all the charchters now (you have to beat the story mode with each guy). Some people are complaing the AI is hard, but it hasnt been a problem so far. They give you a decent challebeg on normal though. I havent tried Live yet, probably momnday ill be up and playing. If anyone wants to play my tag is XSOLBadguyX.

Rodimus

12-31-2005, 06:31 PM

Like everyone ele I got my hands on DOA4 today. I was playing online and did pretty good, I surprised myself. Most mayches I played had no lag which felt great, the way a fighter should be played. Still it's what I expected, not a big change, still plays the same with minor improvments. Very fast, and still a bit button mashy for my tastes.

RelentlessRolento

12-31-2005, 07:15 PM

Apossum

12-31-2005, 08:10 PM

so in other words DOA4 is like DoAU + a dash of tekken + better online?

I still think itagaki needs to go for a little more realism with the characters... something closer to the new rumble roses for the 360... Sadly that looks slightly more interesting to me than DOA4 (and yes, it is way more shallow)

not really. you can't sum it up that simply, though of course most people will since the series has such a stigma attached to it (especially from tekken fans, ahem :lol: ) Ultimate is doa2...this game is a sequel to 3. once people stop playing like ultimate online and get into the new system, it'll be pretty hot. right now it's a bore online...even the AI on Very Hard is more fun to fight :-)

definitely agree about the graphics. it seems obvious that they rushed the game out after getting the gameplay down. it's pretty unpolished for a Team Ninja game...especially the hair and detail on the character models-- they could've added a couple thousand more polygons and kept the same style, but I'm sure the pressure was on. Can't wait to see their first game developed entirely on the final dev kit. it's too bad they won't be making anymore fighting games this gen, but they went out with a blast.

MarkMan

12-31-2005, 08:18 PM

As primarily a Tekken player... I don't think any of Tekken has been added at all. Sure moves hit on the floor now(but that should have been fixed long ago as it was sooo annoying seeing limbs go through opponents on the floor)... I'd say it's more of it's own flavor the way they added the new things. The oki in DOA4 is not like Tekken oki in terms of attacking the enemy while grounded.

Granted the depth is still nowhere near Tekken or VF as most of the moves are useless, especially online.

But it's a lot more fun than DoA3 and DOAU thus far...

Apossum

12-31-2005, 08:20 PM

yeah, previews completely overplayed the ground attacks...then some guy previewing the game at doacentral was talking about 50% damage combos on the ground...maybe if you fall and put down your controller for the rest of the match that might happen.

Rodimus

12-31-2005, 11:06 PM

I wish you could grab while they're stunned, that would make grabing more effective, but maybe cheaper. Throws always seem to be a chore to connect. Plus unlike Tekken and VF there really isn't any move that's insanely hard to pull off. All the moves are fairly simple to do. Compare the chain grabs from DOA to Tekken. That's not nessacaraly a bad thing.

Who do you guys use? Bass and Jan Lee are my best, and I'm wanting to train more with Brad.

TheUnsane1

12-31-2005, 11:40 PM

My Doa 4 characters are Zack and prob either Eliot or Tina as my second choice with Bayman as my third. I am loving how Zack has been updated I have a so much better mix up game with him now. He feels almost like a hybrid of Bryan and Steve to me which can't be bad.

MarkMan

01-01-2006, 12:18 AM

If you think they will reverse while stunned... you should throw, that way it'll be a Hi-Counter throw... that's the only situation in which a throw would connect out of stun state.

I've been whoring Hayate on XBL :)

Rodimus

01-01-2006, 01:54 AM

Markman - That's the only time I throw, when I think they'll counter. Throws aren't as cheap as in Tekken.

RelentlessRolento

01-01-2006, 03:04 AM

Actually, I still think Tekken throws aren't cheap... now SCIII throws are cheap as hell!

I see what ur saying apossum.. sorry for my "tekken" missconceptions of DoA4. I love the series, but I have a hard time liking it allways. I say Itagaki will do justice on the 360 when he does Ninja Gaiden 2 or DoA XBV... but until then it's super shallow boob fest Rumble Roses Double XX for me...

111111

01-01-2006, 05:16 AM

droppin by to say wazzup to everyone.

MarkMan

01-01-2006, 06:08 AM

I don't think Tekken throws are cheap... they all can be broken... wheras in DoA command throws can not be broken and do modified damage during situations, so there is a bigger risk/reward involved in DoA.

In Tekken throws can be sidestepped/ducked/backdashed/and broken. And punished accordingly.

At least in DR, long range throws will track 100% now. That's a good thing. Especially for the characters that have weak tracking ability.

RelentlessRolento

01-01-2006, 11:16 PM

back in miami i just got TRU's darkstalkers for psp from a trade, so once I ge back on friday I'll set some time with it...

hola 1111111!

... dont know what to say...? my cousins here are playing tons of Tekken 5 and SCIII but I try and not play since it's too easy for me to beat them... unfair....

Rodimus

01-01-2006, 11:25 PM

Tekken throws can be done while the opponent is in mid combo. Maybe cheap is to strong of a word, but you know what I mean.

Brad is awsome, I think I'll pick up a copy of DOA 3 just to train with him. Also the endings are done very well (haven't seen them all yet), but what's up with Kasumi's ending. I makes no sense. I you haven't seen it cheack it out.

Apossum

01-02-2006, 01:08 AM

the throw situation in 4 is great, compared to ultimate, which has been a throw fest for a while. throws were just wayyyyyy too safe in that game. I've landed like less than 10 safe throws thus far in 4...seems like the grapplers have more throw-punishable attacks, but everyone else beats them with anything.

I'm mostly using Hitomi and 15-hit(or more) re-stun combos with kokoro against spartan noobs! I get a lot of satisfaction out of hearing the kids cry "cheap" when I fuck up their precious spartan with a japanese schoolgirl :lol:

on a side note, the new lobby system was a waste of time. they should've kept it simple and functional.

Arikado

01-02-2006, 08:22 AM

king of fighters XI goodness
fixed:

http://rapidshare.de/files/9879251/kof1120.wmv.html

i wish it would come out on ps2 :(

I got a chance to play the game a few days ago. Here are some of my impressions:

-Ash feels much slower this year. Good chunk of lag on his fireballs, plus he can be knocked out of his qcf, qcf+p super much easier now. back+B isn't comboable from cr. B anymore.
-K' feels a lot slower as well. There's more lag on his Trigger plus the follow-ups.
-Oswald is awesome. Great rushdown and pressure character. He's easily punished on missed stuff, though. Love his sprite and the character overall.
-Eiji has got some easy stuff. Jumping D, Close D into anything is his basic B&B. Has next to no recovery time on most of his moves. His standing E comes out very quick. Easy Dream Cancel from his qcb, hcf+k super.
-Shingo can finally combo stuff into and from his fwd+B.
-Jumping A into hcf+k won't work anymore for Clark. Close C [1 hit], fwd+B, hcf+p into any of the follow-ups is comboable again this year. His LDM still does a ton of damage. With knockback attacks back, Clark's got a great pressure game with his jumping E. His new super sucks.
-Maxima is much improved over his '03 self. Faking his hcb+p gives the potential for good mind games.
-Although toned down, Duolon is still good.
-Shen's best game is still pure rushdown. qcf, qcf+k will now hit after super cancelling from his qcf+p, even if it's part of a combo. Great damage with it, too.
-Terry feels a lot like his '03 self. Being able to break out of his sweep with df+C is nice. Power Charge comes out slower now and won't combo from his close D(!?).
-Ralf's hcf+D Backbreaker still has autoguard on it. hcf+B Backbreaker is his old-school one and can be comboed into.
-I couldn't remember shit with Ramon, so I pretty much got my ass kicked as him.
-Kyo getting his fireball back makes him good at any range now. He's got plenty of options to link into his qcf+C chain.
-The music kicks ass.
-The backgrounds, for the most part, look awesome. Some are pretty empty and dull, though.

Can't wait for the port on this one, whenever it may be. Having to drive an hour just to play it in the arcades sucks.

Anyone been playing the PS2 port of Neo Geo Battle Coliseum? I haven't tried out too many of the characters other than the KOF/FF/AoF/SS cast, but I'm really digging Kisarah.

MarkMan

01-02-2006, 11:20 AM

I know we were on the subject of one hit kills in fighting games awhile ago, but I just remembered that Hokuto No Ken(Fist of the North Star) has death moves in it. :)

GuilewasNK

01-02-2006, 11:23 AM

droppin by to say wazzup to everyone.

Sup. Haven't seen you in the fighting thread in awhile.

Rodimus

01-02-2006, 04:17 PM

I know we were on the subject of one hit kills in fighting games awhile ago, but I just remembered that Hokuto No Ken(Fist of the North Star) has death moves in it. :)

The old one right? I know a new one's coming out, made by Sammy with Hi-Res, YEAH!

RelentlessRolento

01-02-2006, 08:53 PM

yes... death kills.. now we need life kills...?

MarkMan

01-02-2006, 09:33 PM

I'm talking about the new one...

BustaUppa

01-03-2006, 02:13 AM

I'm gonna butt in with a Capcom vs SNK 2 question. I notice that there are two different strategy guides out for the game - one for CvS 2 and one for CvS 2 EO. Now I despise the dreaded "EO-ism" just like everyone else, but does the guide for the EO version benefit from being slightly newer? Or are the guides pretty much identical, with some useless info on EO-ism tacked on to the newer version?

Like I said, EO-ism is dumb, but if the guide for it is just better written overall, or more complete, I'll look for a cheap used copy of it somewhere.

MarkMan

01-03-2006, 02:37 AM

I believe both of the guides are garbage. If you want some CVS2 help please visit www.shoryuken.com !

JEKKI

01-03-2006, 02:41 AM

Im gonna pick up CVS2 again also!

who do u use Bustappa?

Purple Flames

01-03-2006, 02:43 AM

I believe both of the guides are garbage. If you want some CVS2 help please visit www.shoryuken.com (http://www.shoryuken.com) !

Couldn't have said it better myself. A lot of the guys on the forums are complete assholes, but they know their shit when it comes to fighters. They really helped me step up my game in Third Strike, among other games.

Apossum

01-03-2006, 02:45 AM

markman-- have you had a chance to play Fist of the north star (or heard any impressions)? haven't heard thing 1 about that game yet...besides that it's made by Arc System Works.

edit/brag: i was ranked 420 for a brief minute in doa4 today. as a former weed smoker, this is amusing :lol: what the hell did they do with the ranking system though...I got my 100 wins achievment, but my record got reset, so i have about 40 on my new record. they need to work this shit out...and how do the top people have 4 to 5 million points. isn't there a simple "delete" function for this kind of crap?

speaking of which, online just sucks for doa4. I don't get a lot of lag, the game plays well for the most part but I'd be more than happy to help team ninja out with a little list of things they forgot to do while rushing the hell out of this game. kinda funny that everything but the gameplay was a letdown with this one.

kristianator

01-03-2006, 02:47 AM

http://store.animebooks.com/capvssnk2mil.html

MarkMan

01-03-2006, 03:00 AM

Apossum, I haven't had a chance to play it, but I'm going to be going to Japan in the middle of the year and hope to learn some of it while there. I have been following the game... here are some links to gameplay matches/vids:

http://www.gamersreports.com/video.php?id=1136191492&g=504&ex=avi

http://www.gamersreports.com/video.php?id=1134020393&g=269&ex=avi

http://www.gamersreports.com/video.php?id=1134020544&g=269&ex=avi

And here's a tournament ranking match:

http://sc-net.sakura.ne.jp/hokuto1.lzh

Very GG ish...

FriskyTanuki

01-03-2006, 07:42 AM

I need some advice on what character to try to work on being able to use proficiently in VF4, the original for now. I'm tired of Jacky as he's all I've used since I've gotten the game so I want to use someone that's much different in their style but is about the same in diffculty to utilize. Any ideas?

MadFlava

01-03-2006, 12:11 PM

apokalipze2

01-03-2006, 03:40 PM

That fist of the north star game game looks a little meh. Thanks for the links though

gigan54

01-03-2006, 03:44 PM

BustaUppa

01-03-2006, 05:12 PM

Im gonna pick up CVS2 again also!

who do u use Bustappa?A pretty predictable selection from the capcom side... usually Chun Li, Honda, Blanka, and the shotos. That's why I was curious about a guide; so I could expand my repertoire a bit.

btw, I see public opinion is a bit harsh on that guide. I guess I'll only bother if I see it somewhere for a couple of bucks. Even if it's not very informative, it'd be nice just to have a good-looking movelist handy, even if I have to look elsewhere for deeper stratetgy.

MarkMan

01-03-2006, 07:20 PM

Frisky, I suggest trying Lion, he's a bit harder to use than Jacky, but he's really fun. His options are endless and theres a lot to work from. Theres tons of videos out there via vfdc where you can check out some Lion in action... go watch some of Chibita's vids to get an idea of how he's played.

RelentlessRolento

01-04-2006, 03:21 AM

Hey, I know this isn't exactly the topic of the moment but I just realized that in all my life I have never been able to put off the Charge Back 2 seconds, Forward, Back, Forward + Punch supers in Street Fighter Alpha 3 or CvS2 using a D-pad. I've been able to perform 720 supers but I think this is the only move I haven't been able to do using a D-pad. Example of this is M. Bison and Vegas supers in Street Fighter Alpha 3.

odd... it was totally opposite for me...

Odd news that made me disappointed and happy today:

Good: Today in Puerto Rico I found a Tekken 5 machine with 5.1 ware on it... sad to say it was the first time I had actually seen a T5 arcade machine since no arcades neer me carry the game. It's funny since the machine had a huge sticker saying "NEW! Rom version 5.1!"... It was very nice seeing Kaz's db+3 actually knocking a character down on counter hit...

Bad: I've always wanted a Tekken 5 Customization Card and finally got one. Sadly I put a character I can't play for crap on it by accident :P damn raven! oh well... I;m happy to just own a card :)

JEKKI

01-04-2006, 04:21 AM

chun li and blanka?!?!

u best be using a-groove then.

plus, Honda has some good moves for roll cancel I think

MarkMan

01-04-2006, 04:45 AM

Tekken IC cards are fun. I can't wait to transfer all my cards to DR. Feb. still seems to be in effect for the US while Asia already has it everywhere :( !

I have 23 Tekken 5 IC cards btw. :)

BustaUppa

01-04-2006, 10:31 AM

chun li and blanka?!?!

u best be using a-groove then.

plus, Honda has some good moves for roll cancel I thinkYeah I like to roll with honda and then do that Orochi thing. With Chun Li, usually I will knock people down and then piss them off with that flipping knee move that crosses them up.

I've never used A-Groove much, maybe I should try it out. C-Groove feels like "home" to me but I should experiment with a few others. Occasionally I use that SNK one where you push HP+HK to charge up the meter... and it's fun when you're about to die and you can just start spamming supers like a madman.

apokalipze2

01-04-2006, 04:54 PM

Honda has rc headbutt and command grab. If you have a chance look up Mago, last champion at sbo for cvs2. Also if youre using a groove you're better off using A, sakura,vega, bison, rolento, blanka and EAGLE:)

JEKKI

01-04-2006, 05:01 PM

o yeah, Chun has a good c groove I think...

cancel super kick into another super kick or something...

gotta bust dat Ken on a groove too,

think all u do is hit roundhouse or something...

Stice

01-04-2006, 08:54 PM

RC Headbutts aren't great because Honda's body is too long. Chun's C-Groove combo is something like poke, lvl2 kicks xx lightning kicks xx lvl 1 kicks xx sj hp, hp. Ken's A-Groove combo is HKxN. Maybe you need to press forward as well.

FriskyTanuki

01-04-2006, 09:32 PM

BustaUppa

01-05-2006, 01:29 AM

Hey I'm playing DOA:U with some people right now. If anyone wants to join my tag is Busta Uppa.

MarkMan

01-05-2006, 05:03 PM

Yo... if anyone is in the Southern California area... here's a heads up.

The first Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection machine has arrived in the US. It's at Super Arcade... here's the address:

Super Arcade
1211 Grand Ave
Walnut, CA

evanft

01-05-2006, 05:08 PM

You know what would be great? Tekken 5: DR as the Greatest Hits version of Tekken 5.

MadFlava

01-05-2006, 05:56 PM

You know what would be great? Tekken 5: DR as the Greatest Hits version of Tekken 5.

After VF4 Evolution and DMC 3 Special Edition. I'm sure that Tekken 5: DR Greatest Hits will most surely happen if Namco decides to release a home version of the game.

gigan54

01-05-2006, 06:54 PM

taken from cyberfanatix:

According to the Official Site of SNK Playmore, it seems the recently released NeoGeo Battle Colliseum for Playstation 2 has a serious bug related with the save and recording option.
For our Japanese friends and for the ones who asked this game in import, if your original copy has a serious problem with the save and record, please contact the SNK Playmore Support Center at:

SNK Playmore Support center
"NGBC game data restoration person in charge"
564-0051 Osaka prefecture Suita city Toyotsu Cho 14th 12
TEL: 06-6339-6402

Big props to Evil_Yagami for the heads up.

apokalipze2

01-05-2006, 07:23 PM

RelentlessRolento

01-05-2006, 09:27 PM

... so when the hell will namco make a decision on if T5DR will e ported to PS2???

plus, T5DR's animation has improved alot... I like how the moves look a bit more polished than before, using stock animation.

JEKKI

01-06-2006, 01:04 AM

Super Arcade is still alive?!?!

and they got something before Arcade Infinity?!?!

(oh yeah, AI aint even got tekken!)

RelentlessRolento

01-06-2006, 01:25 AM

just because I am an idiot to do a search (plus it's holiday tommorw in Puerto Rico and I have to get up for Three Kings day for my cousins...?), what's the site to find arcade machines of Tekken 5? I know markamn should know it by heart :P

MarkMan

01-06-2006, 03:04 AM

www.tekken.vg :)

I should really update the site... lol.

JEKKI

01-06-2006, 02:48 PM

ok so gamefaqs has a top 10 list for today, top 10 fighting games:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/10.html

this is quite possibly the worst list ever,

no MVC2, CVS2, 3S, or Tekken which is what most ppl play these days.

instead he put stuff like Garou, Last Blade 2, and Vampire Savior.

these games are good, but NOBODY play them!!!

the onyl good thing about the list was at least DOA wasnt included.

here's the list copy pasted:

The Top 10 Greatest Fighting Games

The genre of fighting games as a whole is widely accepted as to merely remove your opponent’s entire bar at the other side of the screen you stare at. However, such a simple idea can be generated into a far more complex engine. The layout as to how to play these games might be thought as many different entities, but developers put deep thought into making gameplay that requires experienced and creative thinking beyond that concept. The most common place to find these type of games are at your local arcade, where the genre originated from and continues make up the bulk of it, which still stands strong today. So, the list below contains games in the fighting genre that are considered as the greatest among the countless ideas.
#10: Marvel vs. Capcom (ARC)
When Capcom had acquired the license to make games under Marvel Comics, they had started with X-Men: Children of the Atom, with a rather interesting fighting game engine using the stars of the comics. It expanded to an image in which characters from the X-Men franchise would join along with the characters from Street Fighter in a tag team battle using two characters on a team instead of the usual 1-on-1. Marvel vs. Capcom is an installment that includes characters ranging from both universes outside of X-Men or Street Fighters with an evolved gameplay derived from Children of the Atom.
#9: Super Street Fighter II Turbo (ARC)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo is the fifth and finalized installment to the original game that started it all in the genre. The game was a commotion worldwide so Capcom decided to create upgrades in newer versions, and the fans had eventually gotten tired of the umpteenth release of virtually the same game and this led to the desertion of a craze that will never be forgotten. Over the time in each upgrade, characters had new gameplay, the roster increased, graphics improved, and a special option was added: increasing the speed as to how the game operates.
#8: Soul Calibur (DC)
Soul Calibur for the Dreamcast is one of the best fighting game ports. Created by Namco, it is a 3D weapons-based series that was not an instant hit until the release of Soul Calibur. Improving upon every aspect that the arcade version had, with clearer graphics and animation and expands new options in the port. Soul Calibur contains a physics engine to counteract with the 3D environment. Up to its time, there was no fighting game without the depth that this provided, and the original still outshines its sequels in effort.
#7: Vampire Savior (ARC)
When you associate Capcom with fighting games, the first thing that's thought of is usually Street Fighter or the company’s cross-over games. Vampire Savior is part of the Darkstalkers series, which Capcom made during the time Street Fighter II was in the arcades, so it only earned a small fanbase. Darkstalkers is somewhat defined as Street Fighter with monsters, but it follows a dark tone and plays slightly faster than your normal Capcom fighting game. Unfortunately, it is unlikely that this series will gain any more fans, as the license has been bought out by Arc System Works.
#6: The King of Fighters '98: The Slugfest (ARC)
The King of Fighters is SNK's trademark series, and their current series that can stand up to the big guns like Capcom's Street Fighter or Namco's Tekken. A series that establishes one game for each following year, The King of Fighters games were originally intended as a dream match of SNK's most popular characters in 3-on-3 battles. This game is the most balanced entry in the entire series, and contains the favorite music tracks of the previous years in it. That is why it is the most liked in the whole series, although SNK can only keep going further with the recent release of The King of Fighters XI on the Atomiswave hardware, with improved mechanics and the decision to stop releasing yearly titles to focus more on the quality of each game.
#5: The Last Blade 2 (ARC)
Previously mentioned in another top ten list, I feel that this game needs more recognition. A sleeper hit by SNK, the two Last Blade games are fairly fast 2D weapons-based fighting games. Taking place during the Bakumatsu in Japan and having characters based on the manga Rurouni Kenshin, The Last Blade gained its share of fans, as SNK develops another 2D weapons-based fighting game series that is better known, called Samurai Shodown, which is still receiving sequels while The Last Blade 2 remains as a high point in the history of fighting games, but not as well known.
#4: Guilty Gear XX #Reload (ARC)
A game developed by Arc System Works, Guilty Gear XX #Reload is the first of two upgrades to the game Guilty Gear XX, which has been a popular title in Japan but has a niche fanbase in the US. A rather fast 2D weapons-based fighting game, not only does it have the most resolution out of any 2D fighting game, it has innovative and balanced gameplay, an excellent and interesting character cast, and a music track heavily based on rock music. These combinations make the inspiring execution of the Guilty Gear games an awe to watch.
#3: Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution (PS2)
The signature fighting game made by Sega, Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution is a nice upgrade to the already successful Virtua Fighter 4, which is easily the greatest that 3D fighting has to offer. The beautiful graphics and realistic effects pertain to style of the game. Every one of the characters can be learned and accustomed with the balance and learning curve the game has to offer, along with the speed and thinking required for battle. An appealing option inserted is the quest mode, where you take the role of a player who fights other AI-controlled players acting as to how fighting game competition is employed.
#2: Garou: Mark of the Wolves (ARC)
Known as Garou Densetsu in Japan and Fatal Fury everywhere else, Garou: Mark of the Wolves is the latest installment to the franchise, and takes place a decade after the previous game. Fatal Fury was SNK's first fighting game that would have not been made into a series if Street Fighter II was not so popular. It was the game that started the King of Fighters tournament which spawned the yearly games, so its roots start from here and continue to grow. Terry Bogard remains as the legendary wolf and passes his mark down to the new hero, Rock Howard in the game that occurs years after the concept of the King of Fighters, and the game that began SNK's fighting game career. This is a powerful figure in the entire series.
#1: Samurai Shodown II (ARC)
Back when Street Fighter II was all the craze, does anyone remember which game was the only competition for it? Samurai Shodown and its sequel, which have had six installments, remains as SNK’s standing point in their fighting games in the early 90s. SNK developed games like Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury to try and compete with Street Fighter II, but were unsuccessful until the release of the original Samurai Shodown which defined innovation by being the first 2D weapons-based fighting game to grace the arcades, with its sequel improving upon every factor. Being ahead of its time, with beautiful graphics, fluid animation, and a new, entertaining style in gameplay, Samurai Shodown II remains as the greatest fighting game advanced from a simple concept to this day.

These ten fighting games are not necessarily my favorites, nor are they decided by influence or popular choice, but these games are what I feel are the deepest and most enjoyable features that the genre has to offer. 2D and 3D fighting play completely different, but it is still amusing to see how much has changed over the time that the concept was born. Fighting games remain as my favorite genre because of variety and fun it supplies; along with the competition it brings to push people even further to play more.
List by FrostHarpy

Stice

01-06-2006, 02:53 PM

Why the fuck do you take GameFaqs seriously? Especially a list made by some guy named FrostHarpy.

gigan54

01-06-2006, 04:03 PM

I actually thought it was a very good list. MVC2 is a broken game (56 playable characters, yet everyone only uses 8 or so...)
your argument is rather invalid. just because no one plays these games, doesn't mean they they suck, or that the more popular titles deserve a better ranking(although I do remember lots of talk about samurai shodown 2 from back in the day) I feel like this list is quite valid sans vampire savior. I don't see anything revolutionary about that series.

Rodimus

01-06-2006, 05:38 PM

Gigan - I thought the list was good too, but Vampire Savior doesn't seem like it should be up there. In fact I'm super happy to see the top 2 spots taken by SNK games. But very surprised SFIII 3rd didn't show up.

Purple Flames

01-06-2006, 06:18 PM

If I had done that list I'd swap Vampire Savior out with Third Strike and maybe another game on there with Mortal Kombat II, and move around a few games (SSF2T deserves a higher spot on the list).

And I'm glad to see MvC2 and DOA didn't make the cut.

SMMM

01-06-2006, 06:20 PM

I loved the Vampire series. It's like what MvC would be without the steroids and horrible balance. Not to mention the very original characters and themes(for a fighting game). Glad to see MK or DOA didn't make the cut. Would probably move KOF98 higher up and add Real Bout Fatal Fury 2 in somehow(I enjoy it better than Garou actually)

gigan54

01-06-2006, 07:15 PM

Rodimus

01-06-2006, 08:21 PM

I thought Vampire series characters weren't very original at all. Especially move wise, nothing special, they never introduced a character that played "diffrent." Donavon was probably the most orginal character.

Real Bout 2 is definatly a great and overlooked fighter. But many could argue the easy pre-set combos took some fun out of it.

sblymnlcrymnl

01-07-2006, 04:31 AM

Good to see VF4:Evo on the list, even though it means nothing.

DomLando

01-07-2006, 08:38 AM

I thought the list was decent. Like a few of you said third strike should be up there. I enjoyed the vampire serious a lot though. And as for tekken not being up there so people just plain dont like tekken. I know a lot of people who play fighters that dont like tekken at all and then there are the people who swear by the game. It's only some guys list so who cares anyway

Rodimus

01-07-2006, 01:29 PM

Well here's my list:
10. MVC2 (Yeah it's broken, but still fun)
9. Jo Jo's Bizzare Adventure
8. Rival Schools 3
7. Guilty Gear XX
6. Garou: MOTW
5. Virtua Fighter 4
4. Street Fighter 3 3rd S
3. Tekken 5
2. SSFT2T
1. KOF 98'

EDIT - Some fighting game news I ran across. Some might be old news, but I haven't seen it posted here yet.

- Namco confirmed that they will release an arcade version of Soul Calibur III in spring 2006. You wouldn't see his happen about 10 years ago. The console version before the arcade.

- Famitsu DOA4 Review: 10, 10, 9, 10 - (39/40)

- Capcom will release the classic fighting game Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting for Xbox Live Arcade in Q1 2006. YEAH, the best one.

gigan54

01-07-2006, 05:52 PM

my list:

10. marvel vs. capcom
9.virtua fighter 4 : evolution
8.tekken 3 (haven't played 5 yet so i'll have to withhold judgement on that one)
7. last blade 2
6.street fighter 3 : 3rd strike
5.samurai shodown 2
4. soul calibur
3.street fighter 2 : hyperfighting
2.kof 98
1. garou : MOTW

Rodimus

01-07-2006, 06:55 PM

GuilewasNK

01-07-2006, 06:58 PM

Needs more Guile!

gigan54

01-07-2006, 07:01 PM

Not sure if this is 100% acurate but a reliable source sent me a list of fighters for the upcoming Capcom vs Sammy, (which should actually be called Street Fighter vs Guilty Gear.)

Capcom Side: Ryu, Ken, Sakura, Akuma, Dan, Chunny, Yun, Yang, Demitri, Morrigan, Lilith, Hsien-Ko.

GG Side: Sol, Ky, Dizzy, May, Johnny, Slayer, Potemkin, Jam, Anji, I-No

really? I thioght this was reported as cancelled mid last year. i'm surprised to see that it's resurrected. let's hope your source is correct. the world needs more fighters. ;)

oh and it definately needs more guile ;)

...wtf no grappler? where's zangief at? oh and bridget should be added to the list as well. (imagines a powerhouse dan/ bridget team and starts to laugh)

Rodimus

01-07-2006, 07:04 PM

With that list I'm not sure if I want this news to be true. Doesn't seem like it'll be a very fun crossover. Agree, more Guile and Zangief is needed.

RelentlessRolento

01-07-2006, 07:33 PM

That list sucked... I am usually never straight forward like that but I say what I beleive... Either the guy dosn't spend enough time with alot of fighters or he is just lettign his own personal opinion seep in too much. Though I will say the Vampire savior series did have quite a few original characters (not including morrigan or demitri), B.B. Hood, L. Raptor, and Donovan are very unique unto themselves... On that note, jsut got the PSP Darkstalkers. Now I understand why people hate the D-pad so much for fighters... it feels so unresponsive! I hope at least capcom does something about it for SFA3Max, but it sounds like it's fixed already.

geeze... every year when it's the end of a year or beginning of a new year everybody loves to make a "best/worst of XXXX"... but I'll dive in.

Since I don't like favoring one game over another entirely (even though everbody does it... hey! we are human!) I'll just list my top 10 faves, but in no order:

Project Justice
Tekken 5
Soul Calibur
KoF '98
Mortal Kombat 2
VF4: Evo (I don't play this much at all or even like it too much, but have heaps of respect for it)
Marvel vs Capcom (yes... not MvC2... I still like MvsC1 way more than MvsC2).
Waku Waku 7 (I like humor with my games)
SFII (any version)
SFA3

and there you go. I will say I favor Tekken 5 and Project Justice the most...

evanft

01-07-2006, 08:01 PM

Either the guy dosn't spend enough time with alot of fighters or he is just lettign his own personal opinion seep in too much.

Well, considering it was HIS list, I imagine his opinion would seep into it.

Rodimus

01-07-2006, 11:16 PM

Maxim's review for Samurai Showdown V. The most ground breaking, awe inspiring, review ever. What ever they pay these guys, it ain't enough. (sarcsam)

http://www.maximonline.com/entertainment/reviews.aspx?p_id=11210

MarkMan

01-07-2006, 11:55 PM

Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection has started showing up in the US!

They are not the official US machines, they were imported arcade boards from the Asia release. So IC cards will not be compatible.

San Diego has gotten their DR... Houstin, Saint Louis, and other places...

For SD information check out www.sdtekken.com !

:)

It was quite funny. When Pomona got their DR at Super Arcade(2 hours away from San Diego), I drove up the same day it was set up and played and even stayed at my friend's house so we can play again this morning. The same morning my friend in SD called and said our local arcade got DR too lol...

Rather funny.

GuilewasNK

01-08-2006, 12:06 AM

RelentlessRolento

01-08-2006, 12:32 AM

Markman: as soon as you know what the hell is that thing the Russian's found in ice in T5DR's storyline, update us. I'm guessing We won't know till late Jan or early feb...

BustaUppa

01-08-2006, 02:56 AM

Good lord... I just took a drive out to "8 On The Break" today. Anyone familiar with it? This place is INSANE! It's an honest-to-goodness dedicated ARCADE, I mean the whole place is wall-to-wall games with a little food court stuck in the middle. All just barely an hour away from me in New Jersey!

Some Mortal Kombat players wanted to meet up there so I decided to show up. I was expecting something that resembled a mall arcade, but damn was I wrong. It's like a local club during its busiest hours, but with games instead of a dance floor, if that makes sense. I walk in and BAM, three feet from the door there's the first UMK3 machine I've seen in years (already I'm loving this place). I glance over to the right and there's MvC2 on a HUGE screen, with Tekken 5 and SoulCalibur 2 right next to it. I look around some more and I'm seeing a couple of Street Fighter 3's, CvS 2, something I've never heard of called "Spectral vs Generation," Metal Slug, at least two different Beatmania Machines, Point Blank, some japanese drum game (looked kinda like Taiko but it had 3 drums per player), Super SF2 Turbo, an extra MvC2, and a CRAPLOAD of other stuff I'm forgetting. Meanwhile I notice that like half the people there seem to be carrying joysticks around; I get to the other side of the place and I see that they've got a bunch of PS2's hooked up and a SoulCalibur III tournament is in progress!!! There is a THICK-ass crowd around the tourney, the brackets and winners are being announced over the PA and people have little mini-cams videotaping the thing!!! Meanwhile people with Nintendo DS's are walking around all over the place; I'm assuming there was like a Wi Hi hotspot or something in there too.

Anyways I was stunned; I didn't think anything like this existed outside of japan. And you could tell this was a thick crowd of real-deal GAMERS here.... never in my life have I encountered such a thick concentration of games or gamers like this. I'm still struck by just how CROWDED the place was. It's like some crazy bizarro world compared to the scene on Long Island; hard to believe it's just over an hour's drive away!!!!

Purple Flames

01-08-2006, 03:20 AM

SMMM

01-08-2006, 03:31 AM

I thought Vampire series characters weren't very original at all. Especially move wise, nothing special, they never introduced a character that played "diffrent." Donavon was probably the most orginal character.

How is that? IIRC, almost all of them played pretty uniquely besides the shotos and maybe a couple charge characters, due to its wacky-ness. It's battle and combo system was also pretty unique until it evolved into the Marve; vs. series, which kinda took it too over-the-top, which led to various glitches and terrible balance.

MarkMan

01-08-2006, 03:45 AM

Today there was a big tournament at "8 on the break"... Clash 2006... so all the best players in the country(or most of them) were there... there will be more fightin tomorrow. :)

Rodimus

01-08-2006, 05:48 PM

How is that? IIRC, almost all of them played pretty uniquely besides the shotos and maybe a couple charge characters, due to its wacky-ness. It's battle and combo system was also pretty unique until it evolved into the Marve; vs. series, which kinda took it too over-the-top, which led to various glitches and terrible balance.

Like I said, the only character that I thought played unique was Donavon. Everyone else really didn't have anything new. Plus I just thought most the character designs were kinda crappy. Just my personal opinion, that's all.

gigan54

01-08-2006, 06:32 PM

this thread seems to be about done. anyone care to create the 9th installment of the fighter thread?