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eshbums
11-26-2005, 02:07 PM
It's been over a week now since o0SwishaHouse received my shipment on a trade, and I haven't received any replies to my emails or PMs...so I'm hoping you answer a public message.

Please email or PM me the status of your end of the bargain. It's been well over a week since you got my package, and I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but my patience has run thin.

I've held off on giving negative feedback, just in case you had to travel for the holidays, but enough is enough - send your end of the trade, or send my stuff back.

111111
11-26-2005, 02:14 PM
last activity on the 16th. that fool just plain hasn't been online either. probably gone for thx givin week but he still should've updated u.

free bump.

Scorch
11-26-2005, 02:21 PM
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74657 ?

eshbums
11-27-2005, 12:54 PM
My previous thread was asking if I was being too paranoid that I hadn't had any contact (and leaving the other party's name out).

At this point, yeah, I'm thinking the trade has gone bad, and I'd like to either call o0SwishaHouse out and work out the rest of the trade and end it on a positive note, or warn other people if they have any pending trades if it turns out that he's trying to pull a fast one.

Any advice/help would be appreciated.

Sephiroth_Masamune
11-27-2005, 01:22 PM
I have no idea. I was going to do a trade with him but i backed out of the deal before it wa too late. Now I am sorta glad I did. I dunno if the deal was too good to be true...but my mom wouldn't let me trade. Thank god for her then huh...would have been in the same boat.

omegaweapon7
11-27-2005, 01:33 PM
i was gonna sell him my pro duo, we agreed he pay first with paypal, but then he said he spent all his paypal and wanted me to send first, thank god i canceled the deal then.

SuprTnr2
11-27-2005, 01:44 PM
See if you can look him up on Anywho and get a phone #, talk to this guy and see what's up. Chances are he was just out of town for Thanksgiving, but it's always better to be safe than sorry. If nothing else, it sounds like it was a smallish deal, a couple of games at most. Unfrotunately, I know what it's liek to get burned, so make sure you have all his info and be ready to file mail fraud if you have to :X

Sephiroth_Masamune
11-27-2005, 01:46 PM
yeah, truly...he did seem like a nice person to trade with. But everyone can seem nice. He might have just been out fo town like alot of people are at this time. Give it a bit more time.

eshbums
11-27-2005, 02:21 PM
See if you can look him up on Anywho and get a phone #, talk to this guy and see what's up. Chances are he was just out of town for Thanksgiving, but it's always better to be safe than sorry. If nothing else, it sounds like it was a smallish deal, a couple of games at most. Unfrotunately, I know what it's liek to get burned, so make sure you have all his info and be ready to file mail fraud if you have to :X

It was kind of a big trade, and yeah, I've got all the conversations via PM and receipts for my mailing all set.

It seemed like he was making an effort to become part of the community, which is why I'm hoping that he was just out of town for the holidays and I don't have to go through all the effort of forcing the trade through....but it's been 11 days since he has logged on to CAG and 10 days since he got my stuff.

Pookymeister
11-27-2005, 03:32 PM
I've been waiting 3 months for my stuff from a CAG =0

He said he was moving and would get back to me .... caught him on AIM once, he said he sent it out but would check on it - and havent heard back since. I could leave negative feedback, but it was only $17 and i dont think hes logged on here since september. Plus he did the last freepsps.com referall for me and got me my PSP, so i cant be too mad at him =]

dipsetrenegade
11-27-2005, 06:11 PM
meh
glad i never traded with this guy
seemed like a jerk anyways

eshbums
11-28-2005, 08:12 AM
meh
glad i never traded with this guy
seemed like a jerk anyways

He was pleasant enough to deal with, and I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but for him not to reply to many emails or even hop on CAG shortly after I PM'd him the tracking information is fishy.

He's under 18 (at least according to his profile), so getting a ph# might be tough, especially in an apartment building.

macman16
11-28-2005, 08:57 AM
I hope it works out OK for you.:) Why do people feel the need to steal?:cry:

mookiemeister
11-28-2005, 10:53 AM
I had a problem with a seller on another site a while ago. I paid immediately but didn't get the DVD after more than 3 weeks. About a month later, the seller finally replied to my email messages and told me she has been in Europe. She told me she told her housesitter to mail the DVD, but the other person didn't. When I complained to her why she didn't mail the DVD herself, she said she was in wheelchair.

So maybe something similar happened with the guy who is trading with you?

eshbums
11-28-2005, 11:01 AM
I had a problem with a seller on another site a while ago. I paid immediately but didn't get the DVD after more than 3 weeks. About a month later, the seller finally replied to my email messages and told me she has been in Europe. She told me she told her housesitter to mail the DVD, but the other person didn't. When I complained to her why she didn't mail the DVD herself, she said she was in wheelchair.

So maybe something similar happened with the guy who is trading with you?

I'm hoping it's something like that - not necessarily the wheelchair thing - but if he's a student, maybe his family went somewhere for the entire week of Thanksgiving.

Hell, at this point, I'll settle for a creative excuse and confirmation of shipment.

shrike4242
11-28-2005, 11:24 AM
We did have a problem with a CAG appearing to go MIA, with a personal crisis they had to deal with. They did manage to get things taken care of shipping-wise through another person, though they were MIA from CAG. Once they came back, everything worked out.

I'd like to believe such is going on around here, though from what you told me in PM's about the deal and the value of the deal, it might be a little hard to believe that. What we had discussed via PM's about your next step would be a good idea, as well as contacting the local police office about the issue and have them go pay him a visit on your behalf.

If he's coming on CAG via another ID, he's not being that obvious about it, since I've been keeping an eye out for him via other IP's/ID's.

eshbums
11-28-2005, 11:49 AM
We did have a problem with a CAG appearing to go MIA, with a personal crisis they had to deal with. They did manage to get things taken care of shipping-wise through another person, though they were MIA from CAG. Once they came back, everything worked out.

I'd like to believe such is going on around here, though from what you told me in PM's about the deal and the value of the deal, it might be a little hard to believe that. What we had discussed via PM's about your next step would be a good idea, as well as contacting the local police office about the issue and have them go pay him a visit on your behalf.

If he's coming on CAG via another ID, he's not being that obvious about it, since I've been keeping an eye out for him via other IP's/ID's.

Greatly appreciate the help. I've got certified letters for him and his parents set and ready to go.

I don't have a phone number for him, but I did find one for his apartment complex...good call on the police too, I'm sure that would help speed up the process.

Again, I'm hoping it's just an issue of having to travel for Thanksgiving, which is part of the reason I've hesitated leaving neg. feedback on here and heatware.

shrike4242
11-28-2005, 01:12 PM
Greatly appreciate the help. I've got certified letters for him and his parents set and ready to go.

I don't have a phone number for him, but I did find one for his apartment complex...good call on the police too, I'm sure that would help speed up the process.

Again, I'm hoping it's just an issue of having to travel for Thanksgiving, which is part of the reason I've hesitated leaving neg. feedback on here and heatware.
I hate to cry foul on someone else, due to the recent issues of the CAG I mentioned, though I think something's up here, and I hope I'm wrong.

Sephiroth_Masamune
11-28-2005, 01:15 PM
I would wait...because yes he was pleasant enough...but do what you feel is best...a neg. can be replaced with a postive though can't it? ;)

shrike4242
11-28-2005, 01:17 PM
I would wait...because yes he was pleasant enough...but do what you feel is best...a neg. can be replaced with a postive though can't it? ;)
The negative can be removed and then a new feedback left in its place, so yes, it can be.

Sephiroth_Masamune
11-28-2005, 01:28 PM
well that's good....at least if you neg. ref him and he comes back it can be replaced...but I have no idea how big the trade was so I can't say much more about it than what I have said already....

Hope all turns out well...

eshbums
11-28-2005, 02:04 PM
well that's good....at least if you neg. ref him and he comes back it can be replaced...but I have no idea how big the trade was so I can't say much more about it than what I have said already....

Hope all turns out well...

It was a fairly big trade dollar wise, which is the reason I'm so torqued after 12 days of inactivity.

I've tried looking up a ph#, but nothing's panning out...it's an apartment complex, and I think I scared some woman with the same last name in his complex already. :( I forgot about the time difference, so I think I woke her up last week rambling about fraud. Whoops!

If anyone's in the Austin area, maybe shoot me a PM for a little help getting a phone number??

evan11221
11-28-2005, 07:49 PM
does mail fraud actually work? i had a guy rip me off a big amount on a different site, he stole my valk profile, lunar SSSC and ReZ, and another guy stole my Gitaroo-Man, all through online trading. I filed mail fraud, but nothing came of it. Is it because i live in canada and they lived in the us? or does it not work at all, or what? any help would be great.

sorry is this is the wrong place as well.

beguile
11-28-2005, 08:13 PM
does mail fraud actually work? i had a guy rip me off a big amount on a different site, he stole my valk profile, lunar SSSC and ReZ, and another guy stole my Gitaroo-Man, all through online trading. I filed mail fraud, but nothing came of it. Is it because i live in canada and they lived in the us? or does it not work at all, or what? any help would be great.

sorry is this is the wrong place as well.

hey give their info to www.trollhunters.com. They can help you a lot. Troll hunters will speak with their local authorities and try to get this resolves.

zewone
11-28-2005, 09:19 PM
I hate to say it, because it doesn't help, but I could tell he was gonna try and scam Sephiroth_Masamune.

In Sephrioth's thread he said he had a PSP pending in from Swishahouse.

But then, Swishahouse made a new thread after this looking to trade his PSP for an iPod.

This was the same crap that happened to me over a year ago, when I was scammed.

N5
11-28-2005, 10:15 PM
I hate to say it, because it doesn't help, but I could tell he was gonna try and scam Sephiroth_Masamune.

In Sephrioth's thread he said he had a PSP pending in from Swishahouse.

But then, Swishahouse made a new thread after this looking to trade his PSP for an iPod.

This was the same crap that happened to me over a year ago, when I was scammed.

Well that wasn't very nice of your part. If you had a suspicion it is always better to maybe slightly insult someone who means good then have someone loose valuable property just because you weren't 100% sure. You can always apologize politely if you are wrong but I doubt its as easy to recover something because although I only lost about $25 in fraud in all my trading online experience(300+ trades and buys from others) I never got that back.

gaelan
11-28-2005, 10:48 PM
I've been waiting 3 months for my stuff from a CAG =0

He said he was moving and would get back to me .... caught him on AIM once, he said he sent it out but would check on it - and havent heard back since. I could leave negative feedback, but it was only $17 and i dont think hes logged on here since september. Plus he did the last freepsps.com referall for me and got me my PSP, so i cant be too mad at him =]

did you eventually leave negative feedback for him on CAG? please say yes.

Sephiroth_Masamune
11-28-2005, 11:11 PM
zewone - yeah he made a knew thread because I backed out of the trade because my mom wouldn't let me send my Ipod out first. Which I had to do. He understood why I couldn't send and then he made a new thread...I probably hadn't edited my thread before he made his. So don't go by that one...because I don't know what happened first there...

Just to explain my side...

gaelan
11-28-2005, 11:17 PM
did you eventually leave negative feedback for him on CAG? please say yes.

by not leaving appropriate feedback you give a potential scammer a positive reputation...remember knowing is half the battle. YO JOE!

Pookymeister
11-28-2005, 11:39 PM
by not leaving appropriate feedback you give a potential scammer a positive reputation...remember knowing is half the battle. YO JOE!

Nah - i dont think hes a scammer. He hasnt logged in since 9-19. I've traded with him twice before and In fact, one of his many trades was actually with you ;p

gaelan
11-29-2005, 12:17 AM
Nah - i dont think hes a scammer. He hasnt logged in since 9-19. I've traded with him twice before and In fact, one of his many trades was actually with you ;p

considering your experience, i guess i got lucky he decided to honor his end of it.

Pookymeister
11-29-2005, 12:26 AM
if it were more than $17 i would probably be a bit more pissed off, but i wouldve paid $17 just for the referral to get the PSP anyway, so im cool.

eshbums
11-29-2005, 08:01 AM
zewone - yeah he made a knew thread because I backed out of the trade because my mom wouldn't let me send my Ipod out first. Which I had to do. He understood why I couldn't send and then he made a new thread...I probably hadn't edited my thread before he made his. So don't go by that one...because I don't know what happened first there...

Just to explain my side...

He did request I send first...the reasoning was I didn't have any feedback yet (my only trade on here was with CAG1000 way before the feedback system was initiated) so it seemed fair.

Still no reply to my emails, and tomorrow is 2 weeks since his last contact. Unfortunately I think I am going to have to call fraud on this one and report him.

eshbums
11-29-2005, 11:44 AM
I just called the apartment complex he had me ship to, and the guy in the office said there wasn't anyone by that name in that apartment number.

Grr!!!

The optimist in me wants to think that maybe it's just a friend that is home during the day to sign for packages, but it's looking pretty grim though.

MillerTime2523
11-29-2005, 06:16 PM
Damn man...

I too hate to say it, but it looks like you got burned..

luckily in my 15 trading experiences i have yet to be burned (*Knocks on wood*) lol i cant even imagine that hapening to me.

mesthead21
11-30-2005, 12:27 AM
Yeah, swishahouse is a $$$get scammer who scammed me too on a different forum. He said ipod for psp and i sent first being an idiot. Anyways hit me up a PM and see if we have the same address and name.

Will
11-30-2005, 01:15 AM
It was a fairly big trade dollar wise, which is the reason I'm so torqued after 12 days of inactivity.

I've tried looking up a ph#, but nothing's panning out...it's an apartment complex, and I think I scared some woman with the same last name in his complex already. :( I forgot about the time difference, so I think I woke her up last week rambling about fraud. Whoops!

If anyone's in the Austin area, maybe shoot me a PM for a little help getting a phone number??

Sorry for being slow and not wanting to dig through the whole thread but if you mean Austin as in Austin Tx, pm me the info and Ill make a drive and see whats up.

eshbums
11-30-2005, 07:05 AM
Yeah, swishahouse is a $$$get scammer who scammed me too on a different forum. He said ipod for psp and i sent first being an idiot. Anyways hit me up a PM and see if we have the same address and name.

Don't think it's going through...that's the same trade he initiated with me. :(

eshbums
11-30-2005, 08:36 AM
After seeing mesthead's post - it's looking bad. I've reported him to the FBI this morning.

I talked to the postal inspector in Austin, and they recommended the investigation needs to start from my zip code, so now I get to call our postal inspector.

I'll feel bad (but only for a minute) if this girl at the address he gave is not involved in any way in his scams...but that's the only address I have. I coughed her info up to the FBI as well.

All of the sudden, I'm feeling a LOT better about insuring the package and keeping a record of the serial number off my iPod.

mesthead21
11-30-2005, 08:46 AM
Hey did you by any chance do signature confirmation? I did that and the person that signed was *name removed*. I tried this trade about 2 weeks ago just to let you all know. What name did he gave you?

eshbums
11-30-2005, 08:52 AM
Hey did you by any chance do signature confirmation? I did that and the person that signed was *name removed*. I tried this trade about 2 weeks ago just to let you all know. What name did he gave you?

Same person signed for my package at *address removed*

He told me he was *name removed*, and my timeframe was the same as yours, I shipped on 11/15 and delivered 11/17.

ratzombie
11-30-2005, 09:24 AM
That's fucking bullshit. I'll never understand scammers; Honor, in my opinion, is far more valuable than money.

Anyway, I wish you the best of luck.

slidecage
11-30-2005, 09:31 AM
Same person signed for my package at *address removed*.

He told me he was *name removed*, and my timeframe was the same as yours, I shipped on 11/15 and delivered 11/17.

well i think you can go after anyone in that apartment cause they signed for the item knowing that it wasnt theirs (this is why i dont sign for anyone elses package)

eshbums
11-30-2005, 09:45 AM
That's fucking bullshit. I'll never understand scammers; Honor, in my opinion, is far more valuable than money.

Anyway, I wish you the best of luck.

I'm sure the post office, and police, and feds won't give it to me (I've been busy calling around the past couple of days) but I'd really love to get a phone number for this dirtbag.

If he really is 17 like his profile says, at that age, my dad could have metted out a lot more justice than the system could.

111111
11-30-2005, 10:13 AM
wow this is very interesting now. plz update cuz i think this situation can help CAG-ers in this sort of situation.

again good luck eshbums.

Will
11-30-2005, 11:09 AM
That address is definately one I could "pass by". You need to file theft with your local police/sheriff. Show them the proof of the deal, the proof of reciept, value of what you sent. If they are anywhere near a half-ass squad they should file theft in your state, call the austin pd and tell them whats going on, get his info or the info of whoever signed for it and then badda-bing. Since you have proof of shipment its not hard to do.

shrike4242
11-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Uh, let's not post personal information about other CAGs in an open thread. :-s I removed the information in question.

I'm sure you wouldn't like the same thing done to you. Any other occurances of this, people will get banned over it, and I don't care who you are.

eshbums
11-30-2005, 11:30 AM
Good point - sorry about that.

Will
11-30-2005, 11:44 AM
If anyone else got jacked by this guy, hit me with a pm with your info, what you send, who signed for it or proof of them recieving. If you have the dc number, scan me the slip, if you have the sig slip, send a scan of that. Im waiting on a package from usps and that should be here within a couple of hours then Im going up there.

Will
11-30-2005, 11:45 AM
Uh, let's not post personal information about other CAGs in an open thread. :-s I removed the information in question.

I'm sure you wouldn't like the same thing done to you. Any other occurances of this, people will get banned over it, and I don't care who you are.

Physical addy I understand, but editing out his name too? Or can we not post that till he has enough people comming after him for being ripped off? What are the boundries if you dont mind me asking.

shrike4242
11-30-2005, 03:36 PM
Physical addy I understand, but editing out his name too? Or can we not post that till he has enough people comming after him for being ripped off? What are the boundries if you dont mind me asking.
Boundries are that you don't post personal information, including names, in an open forum where anyone can get to it.

If information like names, addresses, phone numbers or email addresses need to be exchanged, do it in PM's. Don't do it in the public. I wouldn't want my personal info posted where anyone can see it, and I know others feel the same way. Do it in private, don't do it in public.

In the other fun thread of note about this type of situation (the kimsh0t thread), I put down the same rules.

apokalipze2
11-30-2005, 04:13 PM
Man this guy wasn't dumb at all. He built his feedback to an acceptable level where he could request a send first on trades. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73432&page=1

Will
11-30-2005, 05:09 PM
Ok. I went by and found his place. Supposedly he's 18 but still in school. Neither him or the female that signed for them is on the lease. If I understood correct his mother is on the lease. Anyhoo, the female that answered the door has my number to call. I informed her that if the proper people he owed werent contacted and given their stuff back or the stuff he was suppose to send, I was personally gonna help everyone filed fraud and theft charges.

zewone
11-30-2005, 05:16 PM
Ok. I went by and found his place. Supposedly he's 18 but still in school. Neither him or the female that signed for them is on the lease. If I understood correct his mother is on the lease. Anyhoo, the female that answered the door has my number to call. I informed her that if the proper people he owed werent contacted and given their stuff back or the stuff he was suppose to send, I was personally gonna help everyone filed fraud and theft charges.
:applause: Way to go out of your way to help someone.

Rig
11-30-2005, 05:18 PM
Ok. I went by and found his place. Supposedly he's 18 but still in school. Neither him or the female that signed for them is on the lease. If I understood correct his mother is on the lease. Anyhoo, the female that answered the door has my number to call. I informed her that if the proper people he owed werent contacted and given their stuff back or the stuff he was suppose to send, I was personally gonna help everyone filed fraud and theft charges.

I agree with zew. Very nice on your part.

shrike4242
11-30-2005, 05:28 PM
Ok. I went by and found his place. Supposedly he's 18 but still in school. Neither him or the female that signed for them is on the lease. If I understood correct his mother is on the lease. Anyhoo, the female that answered the door has my number to call. I informed her that if the proper people he owed werent contacted and given their stuff back or the stuff he was suppose to send, I was personally gonna help everyone filed fraud and theft charges.
That should hopefully scare him into fixing the problem. Damn nice of you to do.

Will
11-30-2005, 05:33 PM
I know how it feels to get ripped off and what a pain in the ass it is to get things done to recover. Anytime its close enough I have no prob dropping by to let someone know they owe someone or the cops will be the next option.

While Im at it, the female that answered the door let the last name slip of the mother that supposedly is on the lease. I did a search based on that last name and couldnt dig up a phone number for you. Either way the land lord knows whats up and he has no prob with me going by although it helped that I promised no trouble would be caused on my part. If there was any, Id stop and let the cops go from there. With a nice little laugh he said thanks and told me exactly where the apt was lol.

Mr.Answer
11-30-2005, 05:34 PM
:applause: Way to go out of your way to help someone.


Agreed! hip hip horay! :applause:

shrike4242
11-30-2005, 05:36 PM
I know how it feels to get ripped off and what a pain in the ass it is to get things done to recover. Anytime its close enough I have no prob dropping by to let someone know they owe someone or the cops will be the next option.

While Im at it, the female that answered the door let the last name slip of the mother that supposedly is on the lease. I did a search based on that last name and couldnt dig up a phone number for you. Either way the land lord knows whats up and he has no prob with me going by although it helped that I promised no trouble would be caused on my part. If there was any, Id stop and let the cops go from there. With a nice little laugh he said thanks and told me exactly where the apt was lol.

Stink_Pickle, CAG Trade Enforcer of Austin, TX? :D

Will
11-30-2005, 05:43 PM
Ive done this a few times before. Once was for a kid that was stealing sports cards. Agreed to send and wouldnt come through. The town he was from just happened to be a town I drove through 3 times a week for work. On the way home one day I talked to his mom and showed her a list of who he owed, what was owed etc etc and said that they were prepared to file theft if they didnt get whats owed or their stuff back. Within 1 wk everyone had their stuff. Alot of times kids pull this crap and parents never find out.

eshbums
11-30-2005, 05:56 PM
Screw Walker - the REAL Texas Ranger is a pickle.

Appreciate all the help man - I'll definately keep everyone posted.

Will
11-30-2005, 06:01 PM
If you dont hear from him by this sunday, lmk. If I dont, Ill lyk and Ill go back by again.

blackjaw
11-30-2005, 06:54 PM
dont you just love when people help eachother out :)

mesthead21
11-30-2005, 06:57 PM
Thanks a lot pickle :-) your the man now.

dipsetrenegade
11-30-2005, 07:25 PM
wow
very nice of a thing for you to do pickle

doraemonkerpal
11-30-2005, 07:38 PM
great job pickle! :applause:

eshbums
11-30-2005, 07:58 PM
If you dont hear from him by this sunday, lmk. If I dont, Ill lyk and Ill go back by again.

He's PMd me a couple of times...I won't consider it resolved until my stuff's back and in the condition I shipped it, but we're a lot closer than we were this morning.

Thanks again Pickle! I'll PM you with any updates.

gaelan
11-30-2005, 09:35 PM
http://www.sadurski.com/satyra/sobowtory/norris.jpg (http://www.sadurski.com/satyra/sobowtory/norris.jpg)

how would you like that coming by to get paid?

Will
11-30-2005, 11:01 PM
As of 10pm no phone call. Hopefully he got in touch with you today.

eshbums
11-30-2005, 11:04 PM
As of 10pm no phone call. Hopefully he got in touch with you today.

Via PM he contacted me. It was brief, but I requested everything sent back fedex. Awaiting his reply right now.

Captante
11-30-2005, 11:30 PM
Via PM he contacted me. It was brief, but I requested everything sent back fedex. Awaiting his reply right now.

I just finished reading the whole thread & fyi to all but eshubs who I PM'ed yesterday, I was left hanging on a couple of items I shipped first as well ... I was planning on giving our friend until tomorrow to contact me or pay up (2 weeks) before I posted a negative comment.

According to the message I received from Mr swishahouse, he's going to ship my stuff back asap & as soon as it arrives intact I'll post an update... thanks to the Pickle for going above & beyond the call of duty here.. I'm new to this site & this is a big confidence booster!

mesthead21
11-30-2005, 11:50 PM
Yeah, he contacted me via pm as well. Thanks pickle you have no idea how awesome you are.

Will
11-30-2005, 11:50 PM
Captante-got your pm..np!


From here on out if he keeps giving people the run around, I highly suggest filing theft with your local authorities. Give them proof of the deal, proof of shipping, and proof of receipt. They should be able to take care of it from there. I know in Tx anything under 100.00 value they tend to take their time on dealing with but anything valued at over 100.00 usually gets good quick help. At least the few times Ive had to persue the matter. Hopefully he comes across with whats owed. I dont see his family emergency excuse being good for burning two people on the same deal.

Will
11-30-2005, 11:52 PM
Also, Ill take payment for services rendered. Accepting pay pal, money order, 1hr with g/f or mom's, possibly gifts of heterosexual pornograpy-ie videos and magazines. No toy or clothing items please........













j/k....

Captante
12-01-2005, 12:05 AM
Captante-got your pm..np!


From here on out if he keeps giving people the run around, I highly suggest filing theft with your local authorities. Give them proof of the deal, proof of shipping, and proof of receipt. They should be able to take care of it from there. I know in Tx anything under 100.00 value they tend to take their time on dealing with but anything valued at over 100.00 usually gets good quick help. At least the few times Ive had to persue the matter. Hopefully he comes across with whats owed. I dont see his family emergency excuse being good for burning two people on the same deal.


Hopefully that won't be required now, but I have the proof of delivery in hand & had already explored my options... as I said I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt, mainly because of the way this all seemed to happen at the same time, I've done a lot of trading & selling on Anandtech & have heard much stranger stories which turned out to be true, so you never know.
Meanwhile if anyone needs a similar visit to what you did made in Connecticut, feel free to get in touch! 8-)

shrike4242
12-01-2005, 12:07 AM
I do love how he ignored my PM asking him what's up. :roll:

Will
12-01-2005, 12:17 AM
Maybe he'll come on this thread and say a few words on his behalf. I know shit happens sometimes but its just too hard to take someones word these days. Maybe an open apology or something.

111111
12-01-2005, 12:20 AM
glad to see it's working out for you guys.

shrike4242
12-01-2005, 12:30 AM
Maybe he'll come on this thread and say a few words on his behalf. I know shit happens sometimes but its just too hard to take someones word these days. Maybe an open apology or something.
And I'll keep that in mind when I decide what to do with him.

Mono`
12-01-2005, 12:31 AM
If the dude was out for the holidays now his reputation is tainted now that everyone has seen this thread. It's like like he def screwed anyone over yet.

zewone
12-01-2005, 12:40 AM
If the dude was out for the holidays now his reputation is tainted now that everyone has seen this thread. It's like like he def screwed anyone over yet.
Offering a PSP for an iPod to two different people and having them both send first?

No, I'm sure he had good intentions with that.

mesthead21
12-01-2005, 12:44 AM
Offering a PSP for an iPod to two different people and having them both send first?

No, I'm sure he had good intentions with that.

tru.dat

eshbums
12-01-2005, 08:10 AM
Also, Ill take payment for services rendered. Accepting pay pal, money order, 1hr with g/f or mom's, possibly gifts of heterosexual pornograpy-ie videos and magazines. No toy or clothing items please........













j/k....


LOL! Seriously though, everyone that gets their stuff back should at least throw you some green into your paypal for gas and time. PM me your acct. info and I'll shuffle you some bucks.

And oddly enough, I do have some spare softcore laying around! One of the perks of being a reviewer! It's hard to find a good hiding place with a 5 year old in the house, so maybe it would have a better life with you anyways (the porn, not the 5 year old). :)

I'm not going to call off anyone I reported this to until my stuff is back safe and sound.

craven_fiend
12-01-2005, 09:10 AM
Man this guy wasn't dumb at all. He built his feedback to an acceptable level where he could request a send first on trades. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73432&page=1

If the site went back far enough, I'd link you to metroidkiller9. He was at one time the top trader on CAG and then decide to start ripping people off, if I remember correctly. I know it was someone with a ridiculously high rating, prior to the new rating system.

shrike4242
12-01-2005, 09:59 AM
If the site went back far enough, I'd link you to metroidkiller9. He was at one time the top trader on CAG and then decide to start ripping people off, if I remember correctly. I know it was someone with a ridiculously high rating, prior to the new rating system.
Oh, we have a recent person in that situation, supermariomeele:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/traderratings.php?u=12392

No show for three months, and he has three negs out of his last bits of going MIA.

Captante
12-01-2005, 10:28 AM
Oh, we have a recent person in that situation, supermariomeele:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/traderratings.php?u=12392

No show for three months, and he has three negs out of his last bits of going MIA.

I've had similar experiences shipping to people with lots pf positive comments on Heatware.com too, never actually been burned, but waited up to a month to get paid by guys with like 75+ positives... after this one I don't think I'm going to ship first at all anymore.

eshbums
12-01-2005, 10:32 AM
Shrike, thanks for your help in all of this...and to everyone else in the CAG community.

I've been on the site for a while now, just not a heavy poster, and it's good to know that people were so good to help out in a situation gone bad, be it pickle, who really stepped up, and all the positive support from everyone else.

It's not over yet, and I'll probably be really pissed for many hours reburning my CDs and loading the 'pod back up, but this definately gives me hope to maybe once again trade on the forums...just don't think I'm being a jackass if I don't offer to ship first. :)


Edit update: Ouch - just got the confirmation from the FBI complaint I filed. The information is in their system, and has been forwarded to Columbus and Austin authorities.

For his sake, I hope he hustles his ass up with shipping all this stuff back, I'm not calling off the dogs until it's resolved 100%.

shrike4242
12-01-2005, 01:39 PM
I've had similar experiences shipping to people with lots pf positive comments on Heatware.com too, never actually been burned, but waited up to a month to get paid by guys with like 75+ positives... after this one I don't think I'm going to ship first at all anymore.
See, that's what I don't understand in this type of situation.

Getting high enough feedback to have someone ship first is one thing, you do a few deals, and get yourself high enough that you can ask for it. Little time and little money investment.

Where you get to the point where you're in the 50's and up for feedback, you know how to do things in a trade/sale, why the heck would you let it go to heck like that? I know that people can have family emergencies, as well as other issues with real life getting in the way of doing things, though can people honestly say they can't scare up 10 minutes to get to email or on CAG (or wherever) to get emails/PM's to people and say what's going on? Is that really so hard? If you suddenly decide to scam when you have feedbacks like that, why did you even bother getting that high in the first place?

It's just one of those things that I, as the person that I am, can't understand why someone would do something like that. I guess I'm thinking too much of my fellow person. :wall:

The quicker we deal with these issues and the quicker they're dealt with, the better, since it's less work for everyone concerned.

eshbaums, glad I could help, and I hope this will be quickly resolved. A learning experience for everyone, and I'll be happy to do for St. Louis CAGs what Stink_Pickle did for you in Austin.

worx
12-01-2005, 01:49 PM
I'll be happy to do for St. Louis CAGs what Stink_Pickle did for you in Austin.

I'd offer to do it for New Orleans but I haven't been shot at in a while and I'd like to keep it that way ;)

mesthead21
12-01-2005, 05:31 PM
I also want to thanks pickle for his help :). My first scammer and i didnt really know what to do, so just wanted to say thanks. Hopefully i get my ipod back now. Thanks again

gaelan
12-01-2005, 06:31 PM
I'd offer to do it for New Orleans but I haven't been shot at in a while and I'd like to keep it that way ;)

North Alabama Ass Kicker is standing by...have boots will travel.

The Successful Dropout
12-01-2005, 06:42 PM
I'd offer to do it for New Orleans but I haven't been shot at in a while and I'd like to keep it that way ;)

same here...i'd offer to protect from fraud in Baltimore if I'm supplied with a bullet-proof vest and a bullet-proof ride...oh yeah, and a bigger set of balls

Aika
12-01-2005, 08:23 PM
same here...i'd offer to protect from fraud in Baltimore if I'm supplied with a bullet-proof vest and a bullet-proof ride...oh yeah, and a bigger set of balls
LMAO!

Will
12-01-2005, 08:28 PM
I also want to thanks pickle for his help :). My first scammer and i didnt really know what to do, so just wanted to say thanks. Hopefully i get my ipod back now. Thanks again


Np. Again, payment methods accepted were listed lol.

Scorch
12-01-2005, 08:41 PM
Pickle needs to change his user stat to Sheriff.

worx
12-02-2005, 01:09 AM
Pickle needs to change his user stat to Sheriff.

nah - Bounty Hunter

111111
12-02-2005, 02:06 AM
i'd help anyone out in the mesa/gilbert area here. i'll go as far as chandler and scottsdale for a little gas money i dont mind.

i will not go to phoenix, it's just plain dangerous and everyone's got guns lol.

worx
12-02-2005, 02:15 AM
i'd help anyone out in the mesa/gilbert area here. i'll go as far as chandler and scottsdale for a little gas money i dont mind.

i will not go to phoenix, it's just plain dangerous and everyone's got guns lol.

a'ight - I got this figured out.
Shrike - we need to invest in a CAG Kevlar vest , a Glock and a pair of rusty pliers and I bet nobody even thinks of scaming anybody on this site ever again

111111
12-02-2005, 02:30 AM
a'ight - I got this figured out.
Shrike - we need to invest in a CAG Kevlar vest , a Glock and a pair of rusty pliers and I bet nobody even thinks of scaming anybody on this site ever again

HAHAHAHA true dat man.

edit:
i'd seriously donate some money if we get a CAG kevlar vest lol.

worx
12-02-2005, 02:45 AM
HAHAHAHA true dat man.

edit:
i'd seriously donate some money if we get a CAG kevlar vest lol.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7461/kevlar2ah.jpg

$$$$a, this shit's fa reals. We done playin' around with scammers.

:D and with that I'm done making useless comments in this thread.


On a serious note - I do hope everything works out as it pisses me off when people abuse CAG since we really do have such a good thing going.

eshbums
12-02-2005, 10:35 AM
On a serious note - I do hope everything works out as it pisses me off when people abuse CAG since we really do have such a good thing going.

Here's hoping.

I haven't heard from Swisha since he was on the night of the 30th...so I really hope that he's working on FedExing everything back.

Pickle did a great thing, but he's the least official person headed over to his friend's house. There should be some uniforms involved now.

So, if you're reading this Swisha, I highly advice you hustle in getting all of the stuff back to the rightful owners. Like I mentioned before, I'm not calling anyone back to call off their investigations until my stuff is in my hands in the condition I sent it to you.

shrike4242
12-02-2005, 10:51 AM
a'ight - I got this figured out.
Shrike - we need to invest in a CAG Kevlar vest , a Glock and a pair of rusty pliers and I bet nobody even thinks of scaming anybody on this site ever again
Forget a Glock, PN90's where it's at. :D

I was thinking a glass-shard-covered sledgehammer myself, though rusty pliers work as well.

FriskyTanuki
12-03-2005, 04:51 AM
Oh, we have a recent person in that situation, supermariomeele:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/traderratings.php?u=12392

No show for three months, and he has three negs out of his last bits of going MIA.
Wow, he's scammed people now? He was a decent trader when I traded with him many months ago.

Hopefully Swisha fulfills his part of the deal and returns everyone's stuff and avoids visits from the FBI. Good luck to those awaiting their stuff. And SP's intervening was very cool of him.

eshbums
12-03-2005, 12:49 PM
Got a PM last night from Swisha. Supposedly his brother mailed it back to me, but doesn't have a tracking number.

Hmm...I asked for FedEx 2 day with signature required, he replies with USPS and no tracking.

Sounds to me like bullshat.

mesthead21
12-03-2005, 08:32 PM
Same here ^^^, funny thing is he said "If i knew what was going on id understand" so hmmm you screw two people over and im supposed to understand what exactly?

Mono`
12-03-2005, 11:08 PM
And wtf does he think of this thread.

TimPV3
12-04-2005, 03:46 AM
Hope "I had my brother mail it" doesn't turn into "gee whiz my brother's stupid, he must have sent it to the wrong person"

eshbums
12-04-2005, 11:51 AM
Hope "I had my brother mail it" doesn't turn into "gee whiz my brother's stupid, he must have sent it to the wrong person"

Wouldn't doubt it.

How stupid can you get. I've already told him like 3 or 4 times that I have alerted the police, postal inspectors and FBI about him scamming people out of hundreds of dollars, and he has his brother mail the stuff off without providing any tracking information??

If nothing else, this has taught me two things:
1) Get a valid phone number before trading
2) Send a brief IQ test to potential traders, just to make sure they're don't suffer from swisha syndrome.

zionoverfire
12-04-2005, 04:01 PM
If nothing else, this has taught me two things:
1) Get a valid phone number before trading
2) Send a brief IQ test to potential traders, just to make sure they're don't suffer from swisha syndrome.

How about doing trades for less valuable items? I try very hard to keep all my trades below $60 so if I ever get scammed or the post office loses a package it won't be too painful for anyone involved.

Will
12-04-2005, 04:28 PM
Hope "I had my brother mail it" doesn't turn into "gee whiz my brother's stupid, he must have sent it to the wrong person"

Not gonna happen. The piece of paper I gave to whoever answered the door has esh's shipping info. If he starts playing games I say screw him and just go to the police. Mail fraud and felony theft over state lines will make him think twice when he goes to jail and becomes the screw-ee vs being the screw-er.

Mono`
12-06-2005, 03:07 PM
:O, you went to swisha's house, that's so funny.

What was it like?

eshbums
12-07-2005, 08:22 AM
Slight update - I still don't have my stuff.

Swisha was on Friday and said his brother was mailing it, but he never gave me a tracking number (sounds a lot like BS to me).

alive741
12-07-2005, 09:32 AM
Wow, I just read through this entire thread.

Pickle--you're a funny funny man.

-Adam

Will
12-07-2005, 11:45 AM
Need me to go back over? We're suppose to get some rough driving weather so Im gonna stay home and chill on games and dvds and tomorrow is suppose to be the rough part. We're borderline to the area thats gonna get iced over possibly so if need be I can go back fri or sat. I think the bitch had his chance, THATS RIGHT I SAID BITCH cause thats the kind of person he is, and you should just file theft with your local police and have them contact austin and git r' done. This chump had ample opp to come through and not become a jail house bitch but apparently he'd rather mingle with the ladies in cell block D.

eshbums
12-07-2005, 12:07 PM
Need me to go back over? We're suppose to get some rough driving weather so Im gonna stay home and chill on games and dvds and tomorrow is suppose to be the rough part. We're borderline to the area thats gonna get iced over possibly so if need be I can go back fri or sat. I think the bitch had his chance, THATS RIGHT I SAID BITCH cause thats the kind of person he is, and you should just file theft with your local police and have them contact austin and git r' done. This chump had ample opp to come through and not become a jail house bitch but apparently he'd rather mingle with the ladies in cell block D.

Actually, if you still have my contact info - maybe swing it by and have the mom or daughter call me so I can get Swisha's info.

Yes, I am working with the post office and police, and currently they're the only address I have - so if they want out of the loop, they should probably give me a call. I'd be more than happy to sic the authorities directly on this moron instead of involving them.

Will
12-07-2005, 12:11 PM
The info you had given me for him is the one you need to go after. Thats where it was accepted. You have the name of the person that signed and the person on the lease is just as liable. You dont really need his info. He does live there but he's not 18 like the girl told me he was.

Will
12-07-2005, 12:13 PM
Sorry, im a firm believer in giving someone 1 shot to come through after trying to rip you off. If they dont even make the slightest attempt, Id say nail them and nail them hard. They deserve every bit of it.

eshbums
12-08-2005, 06:32 PM
You know, I've been trying to not drag Swisha's name up in this thread, but I'm sick of the bullshit at this point. I'm done trying to contact him, that's what the police are for. Fuck 'em.

If anyone has any inkling of trading with this dumbass, believing some bullshit story about some emergency in Mexico - think again.

-He specifically told me when I was getting ready to ship my iPod that he had the PSP boxed and ready to go, just waiting for my package to arrive, yet mysteriously, it was dunked in water while he was in Mexico for this emergency. Rating: bullshit

-The very day that Pickle went to his friend's house, oh miracle of miracles, he's back from his Mexican emergency, but his internet access was shut off while he was gone. Rating: bullshit

-He never got the iPod, his brother had it, and mailed it to me last Friday, oddly enough, he didn't have a tracking number, just a receipt. Rating: bullshit

So screw him. I'm siccing the cops on him. If he likes music that much, I'm sure he can play a whole lot of skin flute in the big house.

Captante
12-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Just an update for all concerned... I still don't have my stuff either & my patience is also about worn out, if I don't receive my package by the end of tomorrow then time is expired & I'll be filing a police report myself.

Will
12-08-2005, 10:21 PM
Let him play his games. When the cops come knocking on that apt door with a report of theft as well as the person that signed for eventually accepting stolen property, this shit will hit the fan and Ill be in the parking lot taking pictures and laughing my ass off. i wouldnt be suprised if your ipods were sold or pawn'd off.

Will
12-08-2005, 10:29 PM
If this guy ripped you off, if you can give me all the info I need to show they recieved, who signed etc etc. I can take that info to the apt manager and let him know whats going on and warn him about all 3 of you guys filing police reports and having the apt complex deal with cops showing up. Also need your names, address info and phone numbers.

jza1218
12-08-2005, 10:50 PM
Let him play his games. When the cops come knocking on that apt door with a report of theft as well as the person that signed for eventually accepting stolen property, this shit will hit the fan and Ill be in the parking lot taking pictures and laughing my ass off. i wouldnt be suprised if your ipods were sold or pawn'd off.

Well lets hope they got enough to cover bail and legal fees. In the words of Ollie(the weatherman from Family Guy) "He gonna get it."

Will
12-08-2005, 11:09 PM
Well lets hope they got enough to cover bail and legal fees. In the words of Ollie(the weatherman from Family Guy) "He gonna get it."

And I pm'd him to say Im personally gonna bust my ass to make sure they nail him.

Mono`
12-08-2005, 11:32 PM
I can take that info to the apt manager and let him know whats going on and warn him about all 3 of you guys filing police reports and having the apt complex deal with cops showing up.

You should! It would be hilarious if he got evicted from his home.

Will
12-08-2005, 11:48 PM
I dont think he'll get evicted but filing the theft and causing probs for the person thats on the lease can get them in trouble as well as with the USPS for signing for the stuff and helping him steal.

eshbums
12-09-2005, 06:11 AM
Well, I got most of my stuff back yesterday.

The iPod is home safe and sound now, less a few accessories.

This thing was definately used though. I shipped it in the original box, which was cherry, now it's ripped down the back, like whoever was trying to open it was too fucking stupid to figure out a hinge.

The hard case and OEM USB cable are missing.

The hard drive was wiped. Not just the music was erased, but everything. I had to reformat it last night.

The 'pod itself was covered in smudges and fingerprints.

It was shipped Priority mail, no insurance, no DC.

o0SwishaHouse final score for the trade: F- with points additionally deducted for being not only a thief and a liar, but a fucking moron as well.

Captante
12-09-2005, 10:41 AM
Good to hear it at least showed up... if your I-pod was beat up though I hate to think what condition my video card will be in if/when it gets to me... I'll post an update.

shrike4242
12-09-2005, 10:50 AM
Well, I got most of my stuff back yesterday.

The iPod is home safe and sound now, less a few accessories.
So, I know that you have your iPod back, though aren't there two other CAGs who have stuff outstanding with Swisha?

eshbums
12-09-2005, 10:52 AM
Good to hear it at least showed up... if your I-pod was beat up though I hate to think what condition my video card will be in if/when it gets to me... I'll post an update.

It's working fine now, but it was filthy when I got it, and I'm still missing some accessories (add a cig lighter adapter to the list above).

I'm not cancelling my FBI complaint until this is resolved, and I would advice getting the authorities involved on your end as well.

Besides having to reload all the music on here, and still chasing this stupid bastard down for the rest of my stuff, I'm pissed that I had resolved myself to give up the iPod for a PSP. Now I'll have to go out and buy one instead of swapping.

Bastard.

Be sure to update his heatware profile as well - other potential scam-ees need to be aware of how he operates.

eshbums
12-09-2005, 10:53 AM
So, I know that you have your iPod back, though aren't there two other CAGs who have stuff outstanding with Swisha?

mesthead21 is out his iPod, and Captante is out a video card and some RAM.

*edit - besides getting everything back to their owners, it would help matters if this dirtbag came back on to CAG and apologized for his stupidity.

Shit happens, but being a man and fessing up to it does count for something.

shrike4242
12-09-2005, 10:59 AM
mesthead21 is out his iPod, and Captante is out a video card and some RAM.

*edit - besides getting everything back to their owners, it would help matters if this dirtbag came back on to CAG and apologized for his stupidity.

Shit happens, but being a man and fessing up to it does count for something.
He's not coming into here, as I barred him from the trading forum, though it doesn't prevent him from posting elsewhere and PMing.

Once mesthead21 and Captante have their stuff back (if ever), I'll toss his ass. If we never expect him to do anything more here, I'll toss his ass now.

In fact, you, mesthead21 and Captante need to leave him negative feedback now, if not already left.

ratzombie
12-09-2005, 11:02 AM
It's working fine now, but it was filthy when I got it, and I'm still missing some accessories (add a cig lighter adapter to the list above).

I'm not cancelling my FBI complaint until this is resolved, and I would advice getting the authorities involved on your end as well.

Besides having to reload all the music on here, and still chasing this stupid bastard down for the rest of my stuff, I'm pissed that I had resolved myself to give up the iPod for a PSP. Now I'll have to go out and buy one instead of swapping.

Bastard.

Be sure to update his heatware profile as well - other potential scam-ees need to be aware of how he operates.

Good idea. I wouldn't let "a few accessories" slide, especially Ipod accessories; which are usually pretty expensive to replace.

Captante
12-09-2005, 11:36 AM
He's not coming into here, as I barred him from the trading forum, though it doesn't prevent him from posting elsewhere and PMing.

Once mesthead21 and Captante have their stuff back (if ever), I'll toss his ass. If we never expect him to do anything more here, I'll toss his ass now.

In fact, you, mesthead21 and Captante need to leave him negative feedback now, if not already left.

I'll leave a negative comment later today ... the only reason I havn't done it yet is that I didn't want to give him any extra motivation to not send my stuff back.

Pookymeister
12-09-2005, 11:40 AM
just curious, but whats this about music being loaded on the ipod and now not? Was that part of the trade?

shrike4242
12-09-2005, 11:50 AM
I'll leave a negative comment later today ... the only reason I havn't done it yet is that I didn't want to give him any extra motivation to not send my stuff back.
Negative feedback is the least of his worries at the moment.

eshbums
12-09-2005, 12:12 PM
just curious, but whats this about music being loaded on the ipod and now not? Was that part of the trade?

No music on it when I shipped it to him. I reformatted the drive so it was just like day one right out of the box.

When I got it back, there was absolutely nothing on the drive, no OS or anything. Putting this together with the general condition of everything else, it looks like whoever had it this whole time used it, got it all messy, and then tried to wipe out the music before shipping it, but hosed up the process and wiped the whole drive instead.

Be evil, or be stupid, don't be both.

Will
12-09-2005, 12:17 PM
Ive got mestheads info and stuff and he showed me a scan, i printed that out and another paper with his info and a read out of the usps site saying his package was accepted and all that good stuff. If captante wants to give me the same stuff Ill drop his info off too. I found the substation of the USPS that delivers to that apt complex and will let them know whats going on as well as dropping off copies to the apt complex manager to let him know the games being played from his complex as well as the jerkoff and his family itself to let them know the games are doing being played from our standpoint and that since he wants to choke his chicken on the situation the cops are next.

shrike4242
12-09-2005, 12:32 PM
Be evil, or be stupid, don't be both.
Some people can't help being both, it's in their genetics, being first generation in their family to be walking upright.

The callouses on the knuckles from dragging as they walk is usually a good sign, thankfully. :D

Captante
12-10-2005, 01:38 AM
Well still no package today, so its time to file a Police report myself... negative feedback will be posted in about five minutes after this comment.. PM sent to Pickle regarding POD on my stuff, havn't fully given up hope but its close.

Aika
12-10-2005, 08:37 AM
Well still no package today, so its time to file a Police report myself... negative feedback will be posted in about five minutes after this comment.. PM sent to Pickle regarding POD on my stuff, havn't fully given up hope but its close.

Ya know seeing as you have no feedback so your new to CAG this is kinda sad for you =(. Don't give up till you get your stuff back. I mean that >=(!. Dont lose hope :D

Captante
12-10-2005, 10:44 AM
Ya know seeing as you have no feedback so your new to CAG this is kinda sad for you =(. Don't give up till you get your stuff back. I mean that >=(!. Dont lose hope :D

Thanks & don't worry, I'll do everything I can to get my stuff back & even if I can't, I'll still do my best to make life very uncomfortable for this jerk, I filed a complaint with the USPS & the FBI yesterday & am heading over to my local PD today & from what I'm told multiple complaints of this sort of thing get a lot more attention then a single one does.
Also let me say again that its good to see the support given to members here on CAG, the only reason I joined was to try & follow up on Swishahouse because he used his positive comments here to convince me to ship first.

Captante
12-10-2005, 03:49 PM
FBI USPS and Police reports all filed, plus it turns out somone other then the addressee signed for the package so I may be able to file a claim for the insurance I put on the package, but then the mail carrier would be on the hook for the money so hopefully this jerk will come to his senses & send my stuff back before he really gets screwed.

Aika
12-13-2005, 12:51 PM
Any good news?

Will
12-13-2005, 02:05 PM
Yup. its getting better. Im just not posting it all. Yet.

thebob101
12-13-2005, 02:13 PM
Holy Crap, I just finished reading all of the posts. Pickle, you are the MAN! I hope everything works out for the CAGer's who traded. Sounds like this guys is in a world of trouble. It's great to see that CAGer's are helping out.

eshbums
12-13-2005, 02:18 PM
Yup. its getting better. Im just not posting it all. Yet.

It's like a soap opera of the damned.

Redeema
12-13-2005, 03:26 PM
What a chump! Thank goodness a lot of this has been worked out, and thank goodness nothing happened to Stink Pickle who did a heck of a job getting esh his stuff back (well most of it anyway) it's a bad break and I hope it doesn't sour you on trading here anymore, but I'll definitely think twice about who I trade with. I hope this guy gets what he deserves a whole lot of trouble from the authorities, but if he's under 18 then the unfortunate part is that he won't get much time at all, so hopefully he's old enough to get at least some time locked up where he can spend time reading books and getting "learn-ed". Maybe that would teach him not to screw with CAG's because the only thing worse than a Cheapassgamer, is a Madassgamer!

Will
12-13-2005, 05:02 PM
Esh-He's also been informed that he still owes you those accessories.

TonyH
12-14-2005, 05:49 PM
Pickle, YHPM

Will
12-14-2005, 06:12 PM
right back at ya. hit me back with your number and when the best time to call is.

Will
12-16-2005, 12:39 PM
Any updates guys?

eshbums
12-16-2005, 03:22 PM
Any updates guys?

I haven't heard anything on my end...are the other guys getting their stuff back?

Javery
12-16-2005, 04:06 PM
This is a great thread so far - I hope it all works out...

TimPV3
12-16-2005, 04:32 PM
I knew something seemed fishy when he wanted an Ipod for his PSP, considering I just sold him a 512 card and Metal Gear Ac!d. Great to see everything worked out, I'd love to pull a Stink Pickle and go to somebody's house demanding justice but with my luck I'd get shot.

Vampyre611
12-16-2005, 07:27 PM
Tagged so i know how this drama ends... i'm pulling for you guys

Captante
12-16-2005, 07:54 PM
Today I got my Radeon 9800 Pro video card back, just by strange coincidence it was shipped the day after the Pickles last visit to Swishahouse, however he failed to return my 256mb dimm & the DVI to VGA adapter that I sent him ... since I firmly believe that without Stink-Pickles intervention here, nobody would have gotten anything back at all, this scumbag doesn't deserve a bit of slack from anyone.. my complaints with the FBI & USPS are staying in effect, as are my negative comments here & on Heatware.

Have a great holiday everyone & thanks for the support... also I feel special recognition should go out to Stink-Pickle for being a great guy! :applause: :applause: :applause:

Will
12-16-2005, 09:46 PM
Captante and Eshbums, if youre happy with what you have cool. If you want 100% satisfaction lmk and Ill be more than happy to make that phone call. Now that we are almost done here Ill say this-


Monday night when I went back by the apt where the stuff was sent, I had found out that he doesnt even live there. Not only does he not live there, but not even in austin. Wether it was a sister or other family, she ended up being pretty pissed when I handed copies of 3 people sending stuff to that address and it being accepted and signed for. I politely explained that charges are being filed and since he doesnt live there, that means its all gonna come down on her, especially with him being a minor. As she was looking at the papers etc etc, I casually asked how the "family emergency" down in Mexico turned out. She looked up at me like I was nuts. When I told her that people were given that excuse by him as to why stuff wasnt sent, she got a little more mad. I also told her that the eventual reason for not shipping period was that he claimed he dropped the psp in water while down in Mexico. After another polite convo with her, she gave me the ph# to where he lives.

So I ask again if you want 100% satisfaction, Ive got his home ph# and have no issue calling.

xxxafibenderxxx
12-16-2005, 10:04 PM
dude stink pickle, you rule, 5 thumbs up for all the work you've done for these people, good man

marten
12-16-2005, 10:37 PM
You'd like to think this would be a lesson to anyone trying to scam people in a community environment such as this. I pity the "sister" that lives there.

Well done on playing the enforcer on this problem, Pickle ;)

R.E.K.
12-16-2005, 10:58 PM
StinkPickle I hope you work out lol, You cant look like Adam Sessler walking up to peoples house demanding money/trade items lol...

eshbums
12-16-2005, 11:40 PM
Captante and Eshbums, if youre happy with what you have cool. If you want 100% satisfaction lmk and Ill be more than happy to make that phone call. Now that we are almost done here Ill say this-


Monday night when I went back by the apt where the stuff was sent, I had found out that he doesnt even live there. Not only does he not live there, but not even in austin. Wether it was a sister or other family, she ended up being pretty pissed when I handed copies of 3 people sending stuff to that address and it being accepted and signed for. I politely explained that charges are being filed and since he doesnt live there, that means its all gonna come down on her, especially with him being a minor. As she was looking at the papers etc etc, I casually asked how the "family emergency" down in Mexico turned out. She looked up at me like I was nuts. When I told her that people were given that excuse by him as to why stuff wasnt sent, she got a little more mad. I also told her that the eventual reason for not shipping period was that he claimed he dropped the psp in water while down in Mexico. After another polite convo with her, she gave me the ph# to where he lives.

So I ask again if you want 100% satisfaction, Ive got his home ph# and have no issue calling.

Oh man, PM me that number please.

Rugged iPod case - $40
OEM USB cable - $12.99
Cig lighter adapter - $14.99
Yelling at some dumbass kid whenever I'm having a bad day for the next 2 years - priceless

BADAIM
12-17-2005, 04:58 AM
StinkPickle I hope you work out lol, You cant look like Adam Sessler walking up to peoples house demanding money/trade items lol...


LOL @ adam sessler

Captante
12-17-2005, 06:27 AM
I have to agree that 100% satisfaction would be nice, the RAM he failed to return was only worth about $20 & I have a dozen DVI to VGA adapters sitting in a box so the money isn't the point to me anymore, its the principle of the thing. I'll be sending him a certified letter on Monday explaining this & that charges won't be dropped until he returns everything he was sent.

Nealocus123
12-18-2005, 12:20 AM
Good luck with the items guys.

mesthead21
12-18-2005, 12:23 AM
Sweet got all my stuff back. Thanks for all the help guys. I really enjoying bringing scammers down. If anyone sends stuff to Arizona and gets screwed over i would be more than willing to help you get your stuff back. Pay it forward everyone. Thanks all.

Will
12-18-2005, 12:33 AM
NOICE! Overall we went 3 for 3...minus a few accessories. If you three guys can pm me again exactly what he didnt send back, Ill make a phone call or even go back by again tomorrow since Ill be in the area.

shrike4242
12-18-2005, 12:37 AM
Since you all have your items back (minus the occasional accessory or two), g'riddance to Swisha, and we're closed here.