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alonzomourning23
12-09-2005, 07:59 PM
JAKARTA, Dec 9 (Reuters) - Volunteers from Indonesia's largest Islamic organisation will guard churches across the world's most populous Muslim nation on Christmas amid fears of terrorist attacks on those places, the group said on Friday.

Jakarta police have said they would boost security in the capital ahead of Christmas to avoid a repeat of 2000 Christmas Eve bombings on churches in several Indonesian cities, including in the country's capital.

A youth wing affiliated with Indonesia's largest Muslim group Nahdlatul Ulama, some 40 million strong, told Reuters that members would guard churches for the coming Christmas festivities and it had persuaded youths from other religions to join the project.

"We have an annual programme to set up posts to secure Christmas. For this year, I have contacted groups from other religions like the Hindhus and Buddhists and they have responded positively," said Tatang Hidayat, national coordinator of NU's Banser group, known for its military-like uniform.

Hidayat said the volunteers would closely collaborate with existing police operations and the churches' own security.

Around 17,000 policemen are expected to safeguard Christmas celebrations in Jakarta alone.

The spate of bombings in 2000 killed at least 19 people, including a Banser member guarding a church in East Java.

The attacks along with other blasts in recent years -- most recently on the tourist island of Bali in October when suicide bombers killed 20 people -- have been blamed on Jemaah Islamiah, a militant network intelligence experts call a Southeast Asian wing of al Qaeda.

Around 85 percent of Indonesia's 220 million people are Muslim. Christians form the second largest religious group in the country as a whole, as well as in Jakarta.

Although Indonesia has been relatively calm in recent weeks, many security analysts say threats of militant attacks still run high because police have yet to catch one of the alleged masterminds of previous bombings, Malaysian-born Noordin M. Top.

Police last month killed Azahari Husin, another alleged Jemaah Islamiah leader, in a shootout in East Java province.












http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/JAK263907.htm

PittsburghAfterDark
12-09-2005, 09:39 PM
Whew, good news!

We all know how much Indonesian Muslims can be trusted protecting Christians.
*pic removed* :puke:

kakomu
12-09-2005, 10:47 PM
can you please stop posting pictures of dead people?

alonzomourning23
12-09-2005, 11:27 PM
PAD, people complained when Iraqi war dead were posted, just as those were removed so should your picture be removed.

But ya gotta love PAD, when an muslim kills it's because they're just furthering their evil muslim agenda. When they try to protect people they're just furthering their evil muslim agenda. Anything they ever do is just furthering their evil muslim agenda.

Sleepkyng
12-09-2005, 11:55 PM
at this point, it's no longer interesting to see the face of ignorance.

Rich
12-10-2005, 12:35 AM
I'll hopefully be smoking this sometime in the near future; this is taken in my friend's house.:)

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery/771377/tke2-039.jpg

Anyways; I find it very hard for anyone to become dependant on weed. I smoke it maybe 4x a week at the most, but often go 2-3 weeks without it. If I don't have it around, I don't smoke it, it's as simple as that and I feel the same as I did before I started smoking. When I am high, however, everything just seems so obvious. It's really not something you can explain; and I think I may smoke just to discover myself and the world through this feeling; though in the spring when mushrooms start growing, I hope to delve much deeper into this world of discovery.

kakomu
12-10-2005, 12:51 AM
I'll hopefully be smoking this sometime in the near future; this is taken in my friend's house.:)

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery/771377/tke2-039.jpg

Anyways; I find it very hard for anyone to become dependant on weed. I smoke it maybe 4x a week at the most, but often go 2-3 weeks without it. If I don't have it around, I don't smoke it, it's as simple as that and I feel the same as I did before I started smoking. When I am high, however, everything just seems so obvious. It's really not something you can explain; and I think I may smoke just to discover myself and the world through this feeling; though in the spring when mushrooms start growing, I hope to delve much deeper into this world of discovery.

Wrong thread.

Rich
12-10-2005, 01:15 AM
Wrong thread.

:lol: Stoner moment!

(or i just had 2 tabs open in firefox and responded to the wrong thread.)

elprincipe
12-10-2005, 01:35 AM
Whew, good news!

We all know how much Indonesian Muslims can be trusted protecting Christians.
*pic removed* :puke:

So damned if you do, damned if you don't, huh?

Quillion
12-10-2005, 05:23 PM
Good article. I'm still holding out hope for human nature.

Ikohn4ever
12-10-2005, 08:50 PM
the religion of peace strikes again!

bmulligan
12-12-2005, 01:54 AM
I wonder where all those reporters were in 2000 when some of the Indonesian church guards were gesturing to the bombers to "go ahead and loot" or bomb. or what ever it is they do. They didn't stick around to admonish the guards for not keeping the peace, either.

Oh, yeah, and those al qaeda people will just go away if we leave Iraq too. Yup, they aren't going to cause any more trouble to anyone if we just elect a Democrat in '08 and leave Iraq now.

kakomu
12-12-2005, 02:04 AM
or what ever it is they do.

I find your wording to be a bit sketchy. Care to provide a source?

Oh, yeah, and those al qaeda people will just go away if we leave Iraq too. Yup, they aren't going to cause any more trouble to anyone if we just elect a Democrat in '08 and leave Iraq now.

I guess you are right about one thing. Any time a muslim is in a position that blame can be levied, it's obviously the Democrats' fault:roll:

alonzomourning23
12-12-2005, 02:21 AM
I wonder where all those reporters were in 2000 when some of the Indonesian church guards were gesturing to the bombers to "go ahead and loot" or bomb. or what ever it is they do. They didn't stick around to admonish the guards for not keeping the peace, either.

Oh, yeah, and those al qaeda people will just go away if we leave Iraq too. Yup, they aren't going to cause any more trouble to anyone if we just elect a Democrat in '08 and leave Iraq now.

Hmmm...... people being directed into churches to bomb and loot? Hmmm....... Nope:


Most of the bombs were planted in cars parked outside churches, while others were wrapped as gifts and sent to clergymen. National Police Chief General Suroyo Bimantoro said that 18 bombs exploded in seven cities--Jakarta, Pekanbaru in Sumatra, Batam island south of Singapore, Sukabumi and Bandung in West Java, Mojokerto in East Java and Mataram in West Nusatenggara. .....

Outside of Jakarta, bombs targeted churches in Medan and Sumatra island. Four police officers were killed trying to disarm a bomb in Pekanbaru on Sumatra, and a civilian was killed in a separate blast. Nine unexploded bombs were found on the island. Other bombs were discovered in parcels sent to priests in Medan.

http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=543 This article was originally from the ap

bmulligan
12-12-2005, 07:14 PM
Hmmm...... people being directed into churches to bomb and loot? Hmmm....... Nope:



http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=543 This article was originally from the ap

Obvioulsy their security methods are horrible and they should immediately leave their posts. Better to let the terrorists have their way with the country than offer resistance to terrorism. People might die if we don't give in to their demands.