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Ecofreak
01-19-2006, 10:00 PM
A very interesting article lifted off of EvilAvatar.com, which talks about Nintendo's strategy for success even though it doesn't official state it wants to regain the crown from Sony.

Note: This article is written by a non-Nintendo fan.

Disclaimer: I am not a Nintendo fan. Of all Nintendo systems, I only owned the NES, GBA, and briefly, the SNES. The N64 was a subject of my humor and the GameCube earned immediate contempt for its storage format and the vastly inadequate memory cards it came with (it took 3 or 4 to save a season of Madden with rosters on release). Regular readers of the site will have no doubt read many of my scathing comments about the Revolution controller design.

Gameplay has stagnated beyond the obvious sequelitis. What was the last major revolution in RTS development? Homeworld gave us 3D almost six years ago now. WarCraft III and Warlords: Battlecry gave us heroes about three years ago. Age of Empires III was so similar to Age of Empires II that many reviewers found themselves making sure they weren’t playing a graphics mod for the older game by accident. Where have first-person shooters gone? Great, we have realism. Now what? We had years of Quake games, then we had years of Half-Lifes, and then years of Counter-Strikes and Medals of Honor. Come on, developers and publishers, we need something fresh! And don’t even get me started on the pathetic state of the RPG market, things are as bad if not worse than during those years before BioWare and Black Isle came onto the scene.

Now here comes Nintendo into this situation. Whether through some sort of master genius trend anticipator, a corporate account with Miss Cleo’s psychic hotline, or sheer dumb luck, Nintendo has just the strategy to take advantage of the situation. The Revolution will be cheap. Rumors range from $200 to $250. It will be a game system, not an all-in-one multimedia home theater experience extraordinaire (with built-in blender and Blu-Ray drive) like the Xbox 360 and PS3.

Some of the points have been stated already but he does make some other convincing arguments.

Discuss!

dpatel
01-19-2006, 10:11 PM
Nintendo has the right idea. I believe they are one gen ahead of the competition, but I highly doubt they will do well enough to take the number 1 spot. I doubt the casuals will choose a Rev over Ps3 or 360. The majority of sales come from these casuals who buy things like Halo, GTA, Madden, etc.

RelentlessRolento
01-19-2006, 10:18 PM
Reggie had some good stuff in an article thingy I just posted:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82103

and yes, I own barely any nintendo stuff, but they are my fave 1st party company for their pursue of originality. They're kinda like LEGO where they always do well and are always creative with their products, even if it dosn't seem like it to the mass population...

psiufoxx2
01-20-2006, 02:43 PM
It's strange.... In the past two generations.. game for game.. I prefer Nintendo's selection to any other manufacturer.

Dreamcast is the only exception, but then again, it was never really considered 'part of the console fight' anyway.

jkam
01-20-2006, 03:08 PM
I've come to terms with the fact that in the U.S. Nintendo will continue to be the underdog. There is an article here (http://www.dsrevolution.com/article.php?articleid=887) how the PSP outsold the DS in America in 2005. Now we all know the bigger numbers show that the DS is outselling the PSP worldwide. If you look at it from a gamer's perspective the DS is the clear winner due to game library. I think for the U.S. more and more gamers are all about specs and graphics. While I agree sweet graphics are nice they don't make or break games.

The XBOX 360 is the only next-gen system available right now. Microsoft just noted how geometry wars... a downloadble game is selling pretty damn well. It's obvious that the game doesn't come close to what the machine itself is capable of. Yet despite the odds people like the game and are buying it.

I'll continue to support Nintendo because I have enjoyed their games and hardware for many years. They always seem to deliver one way or another in my eyes. I like the approach they are taking with the hardware...a small console that boots games quickly and can also play a virtual library of games. Plus the price point is appealing. As a gamer I want a Revolution.

dothog
01-20-2006, 03:13 PM
It's strange.... In the past two generations.. game for game.. I prefer Nintendo's selection to any other manufacturer.

Dreamcast is the only exception, but then again, it was never really considered 'part of the console fight' anyway.
Do you mean "game for game" as in "the GC version of x-men vs. the Xbox version of x-men"? I don't know if I agree there.

But if you mean it just in terms of the library and the console itself, I'd agree with you for the current gen (GC). I guess it depends on your tastes.

DC to me is the best console to come out since the SNES in terms of the game library. The untapped abilities of the GC coupled with the DC's eccentric library would make my favorite console/library combo of ALL-TIME.

Ecofreak
01-20-2006, 06:12 PM
I've come to terms with the fact that in the U.S. Nintendo will continue to be the underdog. There is an article here (http://www.dsrevolution.com/article.php?articleid=887) how the PSP outsold the DS in America in 2005.

LOL, don't believe that for a second. The numbers Sony posts are how many PSPs have been shipped to retailers, not sold to consumers. Estimates of the number actually sold are much smaller than the figures Sony presents.

Nintendo's figures, on the other hand, are how many they have sold rather than shipped.

Vinny
01-20-2006, 06:51 PM
It's strange.... In the past two generations.. game for game.. I prefer Nintendo's selection to any other manufacturer.

Dreamcast is the only exception, but then again, it was never really considered 'part of the console fight' anyway.

I'd agree with you expect Nintendo made mistakes with their games in both generations. With the GC, they've released countless filler titles (Geist, Kirby Air Ride, etc.) and with the N64 they didn't release enough of their own games.

I think Nintendo has the right idea... but I fear that the Revo will face one, if not both, of these problems:
1. Lack of third party games since a lot of them are 'wait and see' mood.
2. Lack of support for third party games since most people who buy the Revo will be Nintendo fans. This is a problem with the DS, since a lot of third party titles just aren't selling well.

I AM WILLIAM H. MACY
01-20-2006, 06:56 PM
ftw