Rainbow Six: Vegas - Gen. Discussion & Info

[seanr1221]

I freaking love this game... I will be playing this online more then Gears.

[Scorch]

Was thinking about getting this but I see literally NO ONE play it online. Picked up Viva Pinata instead..

[Roufuss]

Was thinking about getting this but I see literally NO ONE play it online. Picked up Viva Pinata instead..

Same here.

They are either playing Gears, Smackdown, or Viva Pinata.

[Brak]

This is - by far - the best Tom Clancy title on the 360.

[Ma12kez]

Was thinking about getting this but I see literally NO ONE play it online. Picked up Viva Pinata instead..I play it quite a bit. :D Haven't popped in Gears of War since I picked it up. Hopefully more CAGs will pick it up soon; the game is so much fun with teamwork involved (finding those people are few and far between) and most people don't even use their damn mics in multiplayer games even when it says their mic is hooked up.

[Noodle Pirate!]

I dunno, I guess I'm use to PC shooters. The tediousness of finding a suitable game its a lot more painful then on the pc where you find a server and can stay in it for as long as you like with nonstop killing. This system has you going in and out after every game.
Now that you mention the laggin out, I have heard the nonstop gunfire but didn't know whta it was. I assumed it was some kind of machinery since it was a wherehouse/refinery level.
As for getting booted a lot, it always happens right after the game screen loads up before the level even starts, so maybe its a glitch.

I still wish they would implement some sort of ready timer on it so that if you take forever to hit ready you are booted. I'm sick of waiting 5 minutes for people to hit ready. If your not ready then dont play lol.

[seanr1221]

Anyone get small bouts of lag while they play? Or is it my crappy school connection.

[WildWop]

I play it quite a bit. :D Haven't popped in Gears of War since I picked it up. Hopefully more CAGs will pick it up soon; the game is so much fun with teamwork involved (finding those people are few and far between) and most people don't even use their damn mics in multiplayer games even when it says their mic is hooked up.

I agree with every point you just made. This is easily the most fun I've had online since RS3:BA all those many moons ago, and that even though I've yet to play a single game with people on my friendslist. It's rare for me to tolerate the general population of an online game like this...

[CaseyRyback]

Same here.

They are either playing Gears, Smackdown, or Viva Pinata.

A lot of people are probably going to get this from Buy.com so they may not have it yet. I got mine from amazon and have yet to open it because I want to finish Gears before doing so (and get further in Smackdown).

[Ma12kez]

I dunno, I guess I'm use to PC shooters. The tediousness of finding a suitable game its a lot more painful then on the pc where you find a server and can stay in it for as long as you like with nonstop killing. This system has you going in and out after every game.
Now that you mention the laggin out, I have heard the nonstop gunfire but didn't know whta it was. I assumed it was some kind of machinery since it was a wherehouse/refinery level.
As for getting booted a lot, it always happens right after the game screen loads up before the level even starts, so maybe its a glitch.

I still wish they would implement some sort of ready timer on it so that if you take forever to hit ready you are booted. I'm sick of waiting 5 minutes for people to hit ready. If your not ready then dont play lol.Yeah I know what you mean, reminds me of the days when I use to play Counter-Strike. The non-stop gunfire issue is definately someone lagging out/frozen 360. At first I thought it was someone with a light machine gun, but then I thought, "Man doesn't that guy need to reload?" I looked into the situation and it is a glitch they are looking to fix with an update, as with other glitches found in the game as well.

As for getting into games (for some reason I only play ranked attack and defend games; don't really like the other modes), ranked games fill up a lot faster, so even joining a game with 3 people in it won't even be a long wait. It seems that more people like to play ranked games as opposed to unranked. The getting booted a lot problem may be something with your connection if you join too late or something like that. It can also be because of what rank you are. Most hosts (well the ones I've played in) tend to boot those with the rank of PV2/PFC, which is pretty unfair but whatever.

Also, I think there should be more options for spawn points in the game. Some maps provide huge disadvantages for teams depending on the situation since the other team can just spawn camp, but that's what flashbangs and tear gas grenades are for.;)

[Noodle Pirate!]

It can also be because of what rank you are. Most hosts (well the ones I've played in) tend to boot those with the rank of PV2/PFC, which is pretty unfair but whatever.


I think you just nailed it (I'm still a pvt). I didn't realize that was a common practice . I just dont understand why they wait to do it after everyone readies up and the level has loaded.
I also notice a lot of team padding. People move from a low ranked team to a higher (sgt etc )one so the skill levels are very lopsided. However looking at some of the ladders, I see a lot of high skilled pvts so that kind of negates that theory I guess.
I guess I should try more types of games. So far I usually sick with the team ones and havent tried out the coop or the other types. I'm still getting to know the levels and objectives so I like to hide amongst others while I get my bearings ;)
It can only get better since you cant rank down hehe.:bouncy:

[Ma12kez]

Quick question for those that have the game: Do you still get experience points if you play unranked games (player match)? I haven't played an unranked game before so I was just wondering if there was any difference.

[WildWop]

Quick question for those that have the game: Do you still get experience points if you play unranked games (player match)? I haven't played an unranked game before so I was just wondering if there was any difference.

Yes, you still get exp in Player matches -- I'm a second-bar specialist and I've not played a single ranked match.

[doubledown]

I just started the single player....no time really for my free rental though. Seems to be pretty darn good though. I may have to pick this up eventually. Hopefully I get a chance to play more today...we'll see, new babies take a lot of time ;)

[seanr1221]

So who has put their face in the game? My guy (besides the hair) looks so much like me it was freaking people in my dorm out.

[Ma12kez]

Yes, you still get exp in Player matches -- I'm a second-bar specialist and I've not played a single ranked match.Sweet. Can't wait for more CAGs to pick this up then, so we can get some games going.

[Tojo]

I have this and would love to play some co-op. Add me if you're game.

[Roufuss]

Finally played the demo... whoever said a long time ago that the game feels like SWAT 4 for the PC was dead on the money.

I loved the single player demo... I will pick up the game ASAP.

[moojuice]

This game looks like ass on my s-video connection >_<

Realistic is pretty hard, took me couple hours just to beat the first "level".

[Ma12kez]

Realistic is pretty hard, took me couple hours just to beat the first "level".It gets tougher as you progress through the story (realistic difficulty). The AI of your squad members doesn't help much either. Try doing levels in co-op story mode so you have a better idea of what's going on around you and how you should approach each scenario. Real people are much better squad members than idiotic AI (that is if they want to work as a team instead of going guns blazing).;)

[slickkill77]

My scaned face looked terrible. My guy looked like he had down syndrome

[Ma12kez]

My scaned face looked terrible. My guy looked like he had down syndromeI heard it works better if you scan your face in natural daylight as opposed to scanning it with artificial light during the night (at least that's what people on RSV say in lobbies). Don't take my word for it though, I don't even have a vision camera yet.

[Graystone]

My scaned face looked terrible. My guy looked like he had down syndrome

Been to the Doctor lately?

[Mojimbo]

If you guys want to play on Realistic mode at all, especially if you want the achievement, avoid playing on Normal at all costs. Apparently the game reverts back to Normal regardless of the difficulty level you chose if you exit out of the game and load your checkpoint. You'll be fine if you just stick to Realistic mode though. A surefire way to tell is that your reticule turns red when you hover over an enemy in normal, but it never changes in realistic.

Oh yeah, don't bother trying to do the splitscreen terrorist hunt levels either, those achievements are broken too, although they might have just been mislabeled.

Great game, but it's ridiculous that they let it ship like this and it'll be weeks before they do anything about even the most blatant fuck-ups.

[Ma12kez]

If you guys want to play on Realistic mode at all, especially if you want the achievement, avoid playing on Normal at all costs. Apparently the game reverts back to Normal regardless of the difficulty level you chose if you exit out of the game and load your checkpoint. You'll be fine if you just stick to Realistic mode though. A surefire way to tell is that your reticule turns red when you hover over an enemy in normal, but it never changes in realistic.So if I started single player on Realistic, then everything should be fine? Also, on a different note, which gas mask works against tear gas, or do they both work the same way?

[Mojimbo]

Yeah, if you started on Realistic you should be fine, you can check to make sure by using the crosshair/reticule tip above. Only thing is that I've read that playing online coop on normal may throw a monkey wrench into the equation, but I'm not sure about that.

Not sure about the gas mask because I've been sticking to single player, but that sounds awesome that they added that attribute to it so it has a purpose other than looking cool.

[asianxcore]

Wish I could could get this game now, I just don't have the time for it.

It's on my Christmas want list, so hopefully I'll be playing this next month.

[Zoglog]

Ubisoft doesn't have the best QA, but this game kicks ass ;)

[psychobrawler]

I just got mine and mapped my face this morning. It's incredibly accurate and a little creepy.... I didn't expect this to look nearly so much like me.

[moojuice]

Lol, why do the (not really a spoiler, but...)Asians always do the "hacking"

[Daddy]

My scaned face looked terrible. My guy looked like he had down syndrome

Probably b/c you look like that in real life too, just took a game to help you realize ;)

[doubledown]

This game is really good...too bad I've had maybe a half hour to play my rental. The new baby really limits my time. I want to get this eventually though....

[Roufuss]

Got the game today... if the entire game captures the feel, pacing, atmosphere, and gameplay of the demo, this game is going to be my 360 GOTY.

Hell, it may be my GOTY period.

[Lieutenant Dan]

I did get one opinion earlier, but has anyone else noticed an improved framerate over the demo?

Just to be sure ;)

[Graystone]

Lol, why do the (not really a spoiler, but...)Asians always do the "hacking"

Same reason fat guys are programmers, or the one that can fix the computers. And they always seem to be eating in games. Namely Cheeto like products.

[coltcannon]

Got this earlier in the week. Only gripe is I feel the checkpoints are a little far apart for realistic. I had to pay realistic for the throwback to the first few RB6 games.

[CheapyD]

Has anyone else had problems seeing other peoples scanned faces when playing online? I played with richlough and goosedude yesterday and neither of us could see each other's face scans.

[nharmon91]

Has anyone else had problems seeing other peoples scanned faces when playing online? I played with richlough and goosedude yesterday and neither of us could see each other's face scans.

I have heard this is a very common problem, but none of my friends have the game so I don't really look for face scanned players.

[slickkill77]

I can see my friends faces...and no my scanned face doesnt look like my normal face

[Mechanix]

is it just my peice of shit tv or is it way too dark to see shit for everyone else also? It's really frustraiting shooting aimlessly into the shadows and hoping I hit something...

[toper]

is it just my peice of shit tv or is it way too dark to see shit for everyone else also? It's really frustraiting shooting aimlessly into the shadows and hoping I hit something...


Goto options and turn up the brightness.

EDIT: the IN-GAME options, dumbass.

[Ma12kez]

Has anyone else had problems seeing other peoples scanned faces when playing online? I played with richlough and goosedude yesterday and neither of us could see each other's face scans.It takes a while for the face to actually load into the game. So you start off with the default generic face, then as the game progresses it should load. At times it takes a LONG time to load so you may not even see at times. This is a glitch that everyone is complaining about on the RSV forums so it's pretty common.
is it just my peice of shit tv or is it way too dark to see shit for everyone else also? It's really frustraiting shooting aimlessly into the shadows and hoping I hit something...I usually set it to 7 on the brightness settings.

[Mechanix]

Goto options and turn up the brightness.

The remote broke ages ago

[Ma12kez]

The remote broke ages agoGo into the in-game options of RSV. Video/brightness settings and you should see it is at 5. Go up to whatever brightness you want, but the higher you go, the graphics tend to suffer.

[captainfrizo]

My copy came yesterday from Amazon. I just played it for a little bit and so far so good.

I made it to the hostage room in the first mission and performed what appeared to be a perfect room sweep but apparently a hostage was killed (he/she must have been invisible, I didn't notice any dead civilians in the room). At that point I turned it off since I wasn't in the mood to replay the last ten minutes or so in the train yard.


I haven't played any matches online yet but I'll probably get a few rounds in later tonight.

[mr ryles]

hopefully I can borrow a friends camera and get my face in here.

[WildWop]

Go into the in-game options of RSV. Video/brightness settings and you should see it is at 5. Go up to whatever brightness you want, but the higher you go, the graphics tend to suffer.

Yeah, the light bloom gets out of hand at 7 and above for me... I wasn't aware posters could glow so brightly in real life....

I find I only need to tweak the brightness in a few of the levels, so try to keep it at 5 or 6 and only crank it up as needed. The game definitely looks better as you get back towards 5.

[moojuice]

Boost me!
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6376/1201061159bv5.jpg
(BTW, this is in single player. Made my sqadmate heal while I was in cover. I look back over, and I see this.

This "glitch" kinda ruined the scene
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4742/1203061758cy8.jpg

[captainfrizo]

I finally got around to playing some matches online. I love the capture/defend mode (or whatever it's called). After a few rounds to get the layout of the casino down it was a lot of fun. I was able to capture the briefcase and win the round twice and was on my way to the helicopter for the third time when the game froze on me.

I also noticed that any lag in this game can completely ruin it, more so than any other 360 game I've encountered. Once I emptied a clip out of my assault rifle at point blank range into a guy and he didn't die. Instead he magically warped off to my side and killed me instead with two shots. I was pissed. Normally I wouldn't care too much but when it's a team elimination/survival game it sucks to have such cheap deaths occur.

[H-Town Info]

anyone willing to do some co-op terrorist hunt or some A & D stuff, please add me to ur friends list.

[digimask]

Thanks to everyone for the generally positive feedback to the Digimask 'Face-In-Game' feature for Rainbow Six.

However, we understand that some people are getting results of varying quality and so we have posted a handy 'Hints & Tips' page on our website that should, if followed, enable you to get a much better result.
Please check www.digimask.com (http://www.digimask.com) and click on 'Consumer' near the top of the page.

Thanks again!

The Digimask Team

[Ma12kez]

Thanks to everyone for the generally positive feedback to the Digimask 'Face-In-Game' feature for Rainbow Six.

However, we understand that some people are getting results of varying quality and so we have posted a handy 'Hints & Tips' page on our website that should, if followed, enable you to get a much better result.
Please check www.digimask.com (http://www.digimask.com) and click on 'Consumer' near the top of the page.

Thanks again!

The Digimask TeamIs it better to use artificial sunlight or actual sunlight when mapping your face to the game?

[Santurio]

the faces do take forever to finally start showing up for other people ro see. I have gotten a couple of nice face scans for the most part but I always get some fucked up patch or circle around the back of the head.

[hx214]

This is a huge forum so sorry if this has been asked...

I'm looking to get the game but, How many players can play on one system on online co-op?

My g/f and I want to play with my cousin over the net, can we play 2 on my system split screen, or is it just one per console?

[Mechanix]

im pretty sure you can play 2 player online co op split screen over one console

[psychobrawler]

I played a few co-op missions last night on realistic setting. Good stuff. I'm looking forward to getting more time with it.

[digimask]

Is it better to use artificial sunlight or actual sunlight when mapping your face to the game?

Natural light is always best, but that may be impractical if you are using the 360 camera.
If you can get an 'even' lighting on your face (minimal shadows) then that helps tremendously.

Cheers,

Gary

[captainfrizo]

I'm kinda pissed off at the moment. The last three games I've played online have locked up on me completely. Single player is fine and I'm not having problems with any other game, so I'm thinking it's something on Ubi Soft/Microsoft's end. I don't know what the problem is but I'm hoping it's something that can be fixed with a patch.

[Ma12kez]

I'm kinda pissed off at the moment. The last three games I've played online have locked up on me completely. Single player is fine and I'm not having problems with any other game, so I'm thinking it's something on Ubi Soft/Microsoft's end. I don't know what the problem is but I'm hoping it's something that can be fixed with a patch.The game tends to freeze (in multiplayer) if there are lots of laggers (red dot connection). It could also be your connection to the server as well so always check the status of your connection to the server. You can likely tell if the game is going to freeze if you hear continuous gunfire for more than 15 seconds without the person reloading (in other words this person has lagged out and can fuck up other people's connection in the process). I haven't frozen since noticing this issue, so I try to avoid games with people that have red connections. Either ask the host to boot the laggers, or join games only with green and yellow connection speeds. Another alternative is to just host your own games. The last time the game froze on me was probably the day after it released; other than that it has been smooth sailing. I hope this helps.

[captainfrizo]

I don't join games with a lot of people with red dots. The last round I was in the vast majority had green dots (including myself and the host) with only a couple of yellow dots and no reds. I can understand freezing somewhat if everyone has a slow connection, but after that round froze on me I think it's more of a problem on the software/server side than any individual connection. I've played matches in RSV earlier and other games with a ton more lag than what I experienced that round and haven't had an issue with freezing.

What I do get to play is a blast, just I haven't been able to play more than five minutes at a time for a while now and that sucks.

[KaneRobot]

Got this Monday but haven't had time to open it yet, work's a bitch and I'm still trying to finish GoW singleplayer. For some reason I can't play stuff like that for more than a 30/45 minutes before I stop.


Nice to see someone from Digimask offering help here.

[LinkinPrime]

im pretty sure you can play 2 player online co op split screen over one console
Two player co-op over one console. 2 player Live, not so much. If there is a way, I must be missing it.

4 player co-op/terrorist hunt over live and up to 16 player for other game types.

To DigiMask:

I know that it hasn't been perfected yet, but my guy is pretty close looking to me, except that I look bald, it doesnt detect my hair. I also have a small beard but it doesnt show up, it just shows up as dark stubble. Any chance that showing hair and facial hair in the future?

[digimask]

To DigiMask:

I know that it hasn't been perfected yet, but my guy is pretty close looking to me, except that I look bald, it doesnt detect my hair. I also have a small beard but it doesnt show up, it just shows up as dark stubble. Any chance that showing hair and facial hair in the future?
Hi.

Can't guarantee I can check in here frequently, but I'll do my best to answer questions.

Hair and beard are two different issues:
1) Hair. We are working on this. It is the single element that has caused us to pull our own hair out!!! Whilst our face detection alogrithms are pretty good (and improving daily), it is extremely difficult to detect someone's hair and replicate it with any decent fidelity. Quite simply, we know a human head has two eyes, a nose and a mouth and so we can 'lock on' to those features and figure the rest out from there.
With hair, there are no set starting parameters. Everyone has a different style, length, texture and colour! It's a nightmare, but believe me we do hope to have a solution soon. We have some extremely large brains working on it right now. Your patience is appreciated! ;)

2) Beard. I have just got this straight from the horse's mouth (one of those 'Large brains' I just referred to) - Lighting is key. Obviously any facial hair will just be replicated as part of the texture, but if there is too much shadow when the photo is taken, the process might assume that the hair/stubble is shadow also and shade the face accordingly.
Our Computer Vision expert suggests: Follow the guidelines as best as you can (www.digimask.com (http://www.digimask.com)- CONSUMER). If you see it clearly on the photo (good contrast) then you should be able to get a good image. Bear in mind though that the beard will only go as far as the bottom of your chin, so if you're Santa Claus you're screwed! :)

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Gary

[moojuice]

Played online for the first time today, wasn't too bad :D

Only question is how the winner is decided in a tie.

[flatliner718]

has anyone been recieving lockups during the game, its a great game its been the only game I've been known to stick with, and its only the multiplayer. I haven't even started the single player game yet. Just curious if anyone gets lockups. I get them during camera taking, and co-op splitscreen. Also when hitting the guide button in the middle of the lobby. I can still talk to everyone, but it completely locks the guide in place. Anyone think this is a soon to be patch addressed issue? Along with the Attack and Defend Briefcase Lockups?

[AK85]

Anyone with the Pistoleer Achievement, do you have to get it with only a pistol, or can you use a shield too. I played quite a few terrorist hunts last night with a friend, and figured I had to be getting close to the 150 Kills need for it. Thanks in advance.

[DiscoDuck8k]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter.

Personally, I wasn't using it when the achievement popped up.

[AK85]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter.

Personally, I wasn't using it when the achievement popped up.
Ok, then I must not have killed quite as many as I thought, I am probably sitting on 149 and should have just played a bit longer before asking about it. ;)

[Ma12kez]

Ok, then I must not have killed quite as many as I thought, I am probably sitting on 149 and should have just played a bit longer before asking about it. ;)I got the achievement while playing on single player. So I don't think it matters if you play multiplayer or not.

[Odenat]

send me a friends invite if you want to play some coop.

[slickkill77]

Game is still fun online but the bullcrap is apparant....Like in an attack and defend match i was playing we couldnt pick up the item....It was on calypso casino...Hopefully the patch fixes these things

[Ma12kez]

Great news for RSV fans! A list of issues that will be fixed in the upcoming patch has been posted by the developers. Though these aren't ALL the glitches I've experienced throughout the game, this is still a good amount.:applause:

From the lovely devs:

Rainbow six Vegas patch Notes

Here is a list of issues that will be addressed in the upcoming patch for Vegas. Many of these issues were reported by members of the community, thanks to everyone that took the time to communicate with us. Please understand that this first patch was being worked on a few weeks ago already and that some of the recently discovered issues may not be addressed right away. We do know about these critical issues and are planning to address them as well.



Single Player

-Fixed bugs with voice recognition
-Fixed a bug that made the game crash when killing Dr. Smythe under a specific circumstance.



Multiplayer

-Getting stuck at briefing screen when joining a match in progress
-Fixed a coop crash when failing a mission numerous times
-Fixed an exploit where observers received same kills as host in terrorist hunt
-Fixed a intermittent coop crash in map Factory
-Fixed a disconnection bug when host changes map
-Fixed a bug with live camera that forced a reboot.
-Fixed an issue with max players not being related to recommended players for maps.
-Added better feedback in the game search menus.
-Fixed a bug with the siege specialist achievement.
-Fixed players crashing when using shield and entering a game with shield restricted.
-Fixed a rare crash when starting a coop story game
-Fixed a bug that made the shield become invisible in certain circumstances.
-Fixed a display bug with weapons disappearing while using shield
-Fixed a crash while using the Live Vision Camera
-Fixed a display bug with the canister in retrieval staying visible after being taken.
-Fixed a random crash for clients in COOP games.
-Fixed a display error that showed 14 players instead of 16 for dedicated servers.
-Fixed a bug with score limits not working properly.
-Fixed a bug that sometimes prevented grenades from being used at game start.
-Fixed a crash through the world bug related to starting COOP games while playing Terrorist Hunt.
-Fixed a crash through the world bug in Casino COOP.
-Fixed a bug with invalid recommended players in COOP maps.
-Fixed a lockup in COOP mode related to clients joining a game late.
-Fixed a bug where a dedicated server set for 16 players only accepted 14.
-Added better feedback in the game search menus
-Remove proximity voice chat from team games.
-Adjust TerroHunt XP based on density setting:
- Fixed bug regarding voice chat - Now voice chat works for all players
- Fixed a crash where clients crash when host change map or quit the game before they have time to load lobby
-Fixed a crash when clientnt selects Option/ Map name either in the lobby or In game
-Fixed a bug related to the infiltration specialist achievement
-Fixed a bug where when score limit is 10 a game does not end when canister is deposited
- Fixed a bug in splitscreen:Crash when player 2 Press ready before player 1 in the login profile menu
- Fixed a bug where game occasionally crashes on boot at the Title Screen.


General

-Fixed some localization errors in Spanish Source: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3571084024/m/7661089805?r=6811097015#6811097015

[LinkinPrime]

Patch released today:

Single Player

Fixed bugs with voice recognition
Fixed a bug that made the game crash when killing Dr. Smythe under a specific
circumstance. Multiplayer

Getting stuck at briefing screen when joining a match in progress
Fixed a coop crash when failing a mission numerous times
Fixed an exploit where observers received same kills as host in terrorist hunt
Fixed a intermittent coop crash in map Factory
Fixed a disconnection bug when host changes map
Fixed a bug with live camera that forced a reboot.
Fixed an issue with max players not being related to recommended players for maps.
Added better feedback in the game search menus.
Fixed a bug with the siege specialist achievement.
Fixed players crashing when using shield and entering a game with shield restricted.
Fixed a rare crash when starting a coop story game.
Fixed a bug that made the shield become invisible in certain circumstances.
Fixed a display bug with weapons disappearing while using shield
Fixed a crash while using the Live Vision Camera
Fixed a display bug with the canister in retrieval staying visible after being taken.
Fixed a random crash for clients in COOP games.
Fixed a display error that showed 14 players instead of 16 for dedicated servers.
Fixed a bug with score limits not working properly.
Fixed a bug that sometimes prevented grenades from being used at game start.
Fixed a crash through the world bug related to starting COOP games while playing Terrorist Hunt.
Fixed a crash through the world bug in Casino COOP.
Fixed a bug with invalid recommended players in COOP maps.
Fixed a lockup in COOP mode related to clients joining a game late.
Fixed a bug where a dedicated server set for 16 players only accepted 14.
Added better feedback in the game search menus
Remove proximity voice chat from team games.
Adjust TerroHunt XP based on density setting:
Fixed bug regarding voice chat - Now voice chat works for all players
Fixed a crash where clients crash when host change map or quit the game before they have time to load lobby
Fixed a crash when clientnt selects Option/ Map name either in the lobby or In game
Fixed a bug related to the infiltration specialist achievement
Fixed a bug where when score limit is 10 a game does not end when canister is deposited
Fixed a bug in splitscreen:Crash when player 2 Press ready before player 1 in the login profile menu
Fixed a bug where game occasionally crashes on boot at the Title Screen. General

Fixed some localization errors in Spanish

[moojuice]

Fixed a random crash for clients in COOP games.

Yay lol.

[Ma12kez]

Finally!! Those aren't all the bugs, but it's a great start. Hopefully this will encourage other CAGs to play. I haven't seen too many people playing this yet.

[Zoglog]

good to see they released a patch so soon ;()

[guyver2077]

awesome i love this game but havent played it lately.. gotta get back into it

[nintendokid]

I rented Vegas a few days ago. Is it just me or is the cover system seriously obsolete? I'm talking more about the single-player because I didn't have much time playing multiplayer. I would hide behind something then get shot, forcing me to move out of cover wherein I get hit some more, if not dropped for good. Why have a cover system when it is not a solid formula? Am I missing something here? I had to return it so I spent the last few hours playing it out like Rambo w/o using cover. Ugh...it felt like Black Arrow all over again. Don't get me wrong, I felt like there's more than meets the eye, but from a 5-day rental first impression, the cover system was trash, which I wish it would've been more solid like GoW. Otherwise, wouldn't I rather just play GRAW?

[moojuice]

If you are all the way on the edge of cover, usually part of your arm sticks out. There is also the possibility of the height advantage.

Actually, after playing more of multiplayer, I prefer R6's cover system over GOW's, with one exception. I prefer holding a button to stay in cover, and since there aren't 3 or 4 different actions assigned to it, I rarley do the wrong thing. Sometimes, in GOW, I would try to roll away from gunfire, but I'd acidently stick to a wall. The only thing I do not like about R6's cover is the lack of a SWAT turn.

[Puzznic]

If you are all the way on the edge of cover, usually part of your arm sticks out. There is also the possibility of the height advantage.

Actually, after playing more of multiplayer, I prefer R6's cover system over GOW's, with one exception. I prefer holding a button to stay in cover, and since there aren't 3 or 4 different actions assigned to it, I rarley do the wrong thing. Sometimes, in GOW, I would try to roll away from gunfire, but I'd acidently stick to a wall. The only thing I do not like about R6's cover is the lack of a SWAT turn.


I think I saw an option in the menus to change the cover button from hold to press.

[moojuice]

I think I saw an option in the menus to change the cover button from hold to press.No, what I ment was I like having to hold it down. I just don't like the lack of a SWAT turn.

[Brak]

Is it just me or is the cover system seriously obsolete?
It's just you.

[AshesofWake]

so i finally played this the other day with a friend of mine. We played something elimination split screen. I think it was terrorist elimination actually. Anyways, we started playing and holy fuck. The walls had blurry textures from like the N64 era. The cars looked fucking horrible. I'm not even try to exaggerate it, it was really bad. Even he was turned off by it.

Then he showed me the single player which looked fantastic. I mean, really damn good. So I have to ask, is the split screen mode really tone down the graphics THAT badly? I mean honest to god, the walls were all just really blurry textures the cars looked extremely bad.

Has anybody had this problem in split screen play? Or was his 360 lagging in loading the textures or something...?

[Trakan]

The multiplayer graphics are definitely fucked up and more shitty looking. Looks like an Xbox game.

[Puzznic]

No, what I ment was I like having to hold it down. I just don't like the lack of a SWAT turn.

Oh. I agree with you about the roll in Gears. It should be a seperate button for sure.

Regarding Vegas, does anyone think they over did the recoil on the guns in this one? I find most of the guns worthless, and that's after playing all of the older Rainbow Six games. I seriously think I could shoot more accurately in real life.

The UMP45 is the only gun I can get any accuracy out of.

[moojuice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwC5Yos4WX4

[slickkill77]

so pointless....its like the people that mod there controllers to do better at marble blast ultra...why?

[Mr Durand Pierre]

How would this game look on a 13" standard definition TV? I mean, would you be able to see the enemies without too much trouble? Eurogamer said this might be an issue on SDTVs which worries me, but I haven't heard it anywhere else, so do other people think it would be problematic?

[nintendokid]

How would this game look on a 13" standard definition TV? I mean, would you be able to see the enemies without too much trouble? Eurogamer said this might be an issue on SDTVs which worries me, but I haven't heard it anywhere else, so do other people think it would be problematic?

As long as your brand isn't some wierd ones with super crap contrast ratio, it shouldn't be a problem. I have a 19" 5 year old SDTV but I have component video inputs :lol: . It makes a huge different from just using composite video. The draw distance is probably what you are worried about. You won't have a problem at all seeing things far away. I had no problem on my shitty TV. However, when you do play multiplayer, you will have trouble, especially because split-screen for Vegas is vertical (left and right) and you can't change it, at least to my knowledge.

[RiCeBo1]

Are the graphics any better then the demo? The demo looked ugly. Hopefully the final product looks a lot cleaner and better compared to the demo.

[WildWop]

Are the graphics any better then the demo? The demo looked ugly. Hopefully the final product looks a lot cleaner and better compared to the demo.

Yes... the demo was very low-res and jittery for me but the retail version is not. The only thing I notice in the move from SP to MP is a slight drop in complexity for the MP models... nothing that really jumps out and says "Ugly" the way the demo did.

[hx214]

Does anybody else have problems creating co-op games and inviting people to play?

I tried today to create a game for me and my cousin and everytime I invited him it would say failed to connect. However other people could join my game... it was strange. Anybody know if i'm doing something wrong?

[Chris Dillon]

router problem. Ports not open.

[SteveMcQ]

Does anybody else have problems creating co-op games and inviting people to play?

I tried today to create a game for me and my cousin and everytime I invited him it would say failed to connect. However other people could join my game... it was strange. Anybody know if i'm doing something wrong?Check one of my posts in the CAG Madden 360 League to see how to fix it. I posted it just a few days back.

[CheapyD]

There was another patch released today...anyone know what it does?

[specialk]

I'm liking this game, been out of town mostly since I got it but I got to play a few rounds the other night and it lead to some questions...
In Co-op there are only 2 modes, story co-op and terrorist hunt. Is there any way to turn on respawns on Terrorist Hunt? My friend that was playing had never played and RS6 before and was getting killed right off the bat.

Secondly, I figured out that on live games that you can play games with respawns but I couldn't get a guest to sign into live. Can you have guests with you in live games like you can in GRAW?

Also, I've yet to play a system linked game but when you do can you play games aside from Terrorist Hunt and Story Coop?

Thanks, and any fun game types/maps that guys wanna recommend will be appreciated.

[PyroGamer]

Did the new patch fix the bug with the face mapping not showing up for other people?

[Kendal]

I just got this today. Might ring in the New Year killing terrorist, or getting shitfaced in a trailer park. Not sure yet.

[GenDV138]

Got the game today from Best Buy, finished Border Town on single player, enjoying it so far!

[Ma12kez]

In Co-op there are only 2 modes, story co-op and terrorist hunt. Is there any way to turn on respawns on Terrorist Hunt? My friend that was playing had never played and RS6 before and was getting killed right off the bat.

Secondly, I figured out that on live games that you can play games with respawns but I couldn't get a guest to sign into live. Can you have guests with you in live games like you can in GRAW?

Also, I've yet to play a system linked game but when you do can you play games aside from Terrorist Hunt and Story Coop?

Thanks, and any fun game types/maps that guys wanna recommend will be appreciated.From my experience, I don't think you can actually have respawns when you're playing Co-op T-Hunt (it'd be way too easy otherwise). In addition, I don't think you can have a guest while you play on Live either. I've had the game since launch (though I've never tried it myself), and I have never seen another player marked as a "guest." As for your last question, Co-op Story and T-Hunt are the only co-op modes in the game (unless I'm missing something).

For recommendations, most people just play Attack and Defend on Calypso Casino (20 min, unlimited respawns) just to gain EXP and rank up. If you want to do it that way, you have to be on the Assault Team and capture the briefcase when there are 10-20 seonds left in the game. If you do win (depending on how many kills your team has) you'll get an average of 1200 EXP per game. However, if you lose, you'll only get about 200-300 EXP. Calypso Casino is a good map for starters though. Personally, Kill House is one of my favorites, but not too many people play that map. Overall the maps are decent, but some maps have huge problems where respawn points are located. Also, be advised that the host will indeed have an advantage during online play.

I haven't played the game in quite a while, mainly because lots of CAGs didn't have it yet. Hopefully we can get some games going on now though. Send me a friend request if you've just got it recently. I'd be happy to help out on any of the co-op modes, and stuff like that.

[Lieutenant Dan]

From my experience, I don't think you can actually have respawns when you're playing Co-op T-Hunt (it'd be way too easy otherwise). In addition, I don't think you can have a guest while you play on Live either. I've had the game since launch (though I've never tried it myself), and I have never seen another player marked as a "guest." As for your last question, Co-op Story and T-Hunt are the only co-op modes in the game (unless I'm missing something).

For recommendations, most people just play Attack and Defend on Calypso Casino (20 min, unlimited respawns) just to gain EXP and rank up. If you want to do it that way, you have to be on the Assault Team and capture the briefcase when there are 10-20 seonds left in the game. If you do win (depending on how many kills your team has) you'll get an average of 1200 EXP per game. However, if you lose, you'll only get about 200-300 EXP. Calypso Casino is a good map for starters though. Personally, Kill House is one of my favorites, but not too many people play that map. Overall the maps are decent, but some maps have huge problems where respawn points are located. Also, be advised that the host will indeed have an advantage during online play.

I haven't played the game in quite a while, mainly because lots of CAGs didn't have it yet. Hopefully we can get some games going on now though. Send me a friend request if you've just got it recently. I'd be happy to help out on any of the co-op modes, and stuff like that.

I'd definitely like to start getting some organized games together. I'll send you a friend request later tonight.

Does anyone know if you can edit the 3-letter prefix that comes before your name? After I ran the PEC the first time I couldn't seem to edit anything, maybe I'll just have to start over.

[Ma12kez]

Does anyone know if you can edit the 3-letter prefix that comes before your name? After I ran the PEC the first time I couldn't seem to edit anything, maybe I'll just have to start over.You should be able to. Just go down to the last option in the PEC (I think it's marked as "Service Record"), and you should see two options: "change appearance" or "change three letter prefix." I know for a fact that you can change your appearance/prefixes without losing any EXP you have gained through playing.

[nintendokid]

Does 2-player split-screen always default to widescreen view (left and right instead of traditional up and down)? If so, that's just wrong for poor people like me whom are stuck with 20" SDTV.

And for system link, can you play versus? I rented it a few weeks ago and I swear I could not find a local (same console) versus mode between two people. Am I able to do system link versus mode? I did not have the manual or much time to explore the game.

That would determine whether I buy it or not because I'm trying to get a friend to buy it as well. XBL would fill that multiplayer void, but I already have GoW, which I still play to death every night. That's $60 saved for me, that's like 5 packs of pork chops!, if there is not an offline versus mode.

[DT778]

always vertical.

as for system link i think its just coop and terroris hunt but Im not sure.

I tried to play 3 player coop with my brothers but it would only allow one person per system. so disappointed. Maybe next next gen someone can pull this off.

[hx214]

Ya the system link is weak. I had a 3 friends come over and play and they brought one of their systems. We thought you could play 2 people per system, but we were wrong. Only one player per system. Then we tried to get on to Xbox live, we could play co-op on one console with 2 people, BUT we couldn't play with the other 2 guys. It wouldn't let us join any other match, it was pretty annonying. So we just played 4 player co-op on GRAW all day. I don't understand why they couldn't do the 4 player co-op on rainbow six if they could do it on GRAW. Hell I'll take a graphix downgrade if 4 of us can play it.... I wish they would spend more time with the system link and co-op modes, Xbox live is alot of fun, but nothing beats having all your buddy's in the same room yelling 'GRENADE!!!'

[jalu6]

Got this for Xmas and completed the campaign just last night. I look forward to playing more on live, since I played a lot of Black Arrow a few years back.

[Chris Dillon]

What do you guys think is the best way to rank up.

[RiCeBo1]

Yes! Finally, 2 days of looking for this game for $39.99 and I finally have it! I feel stupid for not buying it at $39.99 when I saw it at CC and when the coupon didn't work. About to play it, anybody wanna help me rank up?

[Lieutenant Dan]

Anyone who wants to play just send me a friend request and mention you're from CAG. Oh, and the cool thing is to use CAG as your 3-letter prefix :)

[SpikeSpiegel]

I didn't really care for the demo, has the final release changed much? (Don't get me wrong it looks like a good game but it just wasn't for me)

[Chris Dillon]

Its a different kind of shooter. Its tactical and campers can dominate if they are willing to just sit there and wait for dumbasses.

[Lieutenant Dan]

I didn't really care for the demo, has the final release changed much? (Don't get me wrong it looks like a good game but it just wasn't for me)

It runs a lot smoother than the demo. Other than that, it's the same.

[Kendal]

I love this game. I don't know which cover system I like more, this or Gears of War. Both are great and built around each for gameplay. I just finished the first mission and am now in Vegas. It also reminds me of Ghost Recon and that is a good thing. I am going to do a marathon of games tomorrow while i do laundry and enjoy my last day of freedom for awhile.

[CrimsonPaw]

Alright, I pulled down the demo for R6:Vegas yesterday and DAMN did it surpass my expectations. I'm going to head down to BB tonight and pick it up since it's within my "cheap ass price range" this week.

For those who have it, I'm thinking that co-op would be pretty sweet. Let me know if any of you would be up for hoping in a co-op game and I'll add you to my list (or me to yours) to hook up sometime.

[DeathDealer]

Man Vegas is such an awesome game. They got me the same way as you, with the damn demo. After playing the shit out of the demo I felt I had to buy the game just for more maps. Anyway, hit me up, Id be down for some Coop action.

[mikeohara]

Here's a bit of a problem I've run into with my copy of Vegas ... I've been playing on Realistic Difficulty and am At the Dante's Theatre level where you have to hack a computer and cripple the terrorists communication Anywho ... I completed the objective mentioned in the spoiler tags ... and went the wrong way. So now I'm apparently gonna have to erase my game save and start over again because it's stuck on this particular section of the game.

fuck me ... I don't know why I did it.

[CrimsonPaw]

Here's a bit of a problem I've run into with my copy of Vegas ... I've been playing on Realistic Difficulty and am At the Dante's Theatre level where you have to hack a computer and cripple the terrorists communication Anywho ... I completed the objective mentioned in the spoiler tags ... and went the wrong way. So now I'm apparently gonna have to erase my game save and start over again because it's stuck on this particular section of the game.

fuck me ... I don't know why I did it.
That sucks, something happened to me with PoP:Warrior Within towards the end. I ended up in some type of loop where I couldn't get to the correct exit and have never gone back to that game.

Can you restart the level or last checkpoint?

[slickkill77]

Warning: If you are playing campaign on realistic and play co-op it will change your campaign game back to normal.....Lots of people have been screwed by this. I am not sure if it happens when you play realistic or normal or both on co-op

[Ma12kez]

Warning: If you are playing campaign on realistic and play co-op it will change your campaign game back to normal.....Lots of people have been screwed by this. I am not sure if it happens when you play realistic or normal or both on co-opIf you plan on getting the Realistic difficulty achievement, I'd suggest you play on Realistic your first time through (since it unlocks the Normal difficulty achievement as well). From my experience, just make sure the Co-op game you join is set in the Realistic difficulty mode. You'll have no problems whatsoever as long as you keep the difficulty the same in all your games.

Here's a bit of a problem I've run into with my copy of Vegas ... I've been playing on Realistic Difficulty and am At the Dante's Theatre level where you have to hack a computer and cripple the terrorists communication Anywho ... I completed the objective mentioned in the spoiler tags ... and went the wrong way. So now I'm apparently gonna have to erase my game save and start over again because it's stuck on this particular section of the game.

fuck me ... I don't know why I did it.What do you mean you "went the wrong way?" The game is basically linear, aside from the fact that there are various entry points in certain areas. I would like to help, but I would need a better explanation of what's going on.

[moojuice]

Yeah, I don't think yo ucan really go the "wrong way". I don;t remember the part exactly, but is it where you are in the theatre-like room? If so, I THINK the exit is on the lower left side, if you are standing on the stage facing the chairs.

[shipwreck]

Yeah, I don't think yo ucan really go the "wrong way". I don;t remember the part exactly, but is it where you are in the theatre-like room? If so, I THINK the exit is on the lower left side, if you are standing on the stage facing the chairs.

Wouldn't surprise me if that was it. I know I was wondering around going "Fuck, somebody shoot at me so I know where to go!"

[moojuice]

Wouldn't surprise me if that was it. I know I was wondering around going "Fuck, somebody shoot at me so I know where to go!"

Haha, there were definitley times when I did something like that, only I;d randomly shoot in the air and listen for the voices of the terrorists.

[Kendal]

I just finished the first casino and it was fun. I am at the next spot and swamped with terrorists. I also got flash banged for the first time and man did that eff me up. I will play more later.

[GenDV138]

If anyone wants to play any of the co-op modes sometime, feel free to add me. I'd like to get them all finished eventually. Either difficulty is fine with me.

[Mechanix]

I hope they fix the bug where when someones firing and they lag out or whatever you can consantly hear their gun going off. So annoying.

[mr ryles]

putting your face in the game is harder than it should be. I was having massive lighting problems as I tried doing it around midnight last night, but I turned all the lights on in the room. One side of my face was all dark and looked like it had mildew growing on my cheek. Having a shaggy haircut didn't help either as my hair was all whack.

It got my sideburns in suprisingly, but the goatee didn't scan in. Not sure if it is capable of it or not though.

[Tha Xecutioner]

It sucks having hair when you're making your face because it turns it into a combover for your character.

[mr ryles]

It sucks having hair when you're making your face because it turns it into a combover for your character.

I just put a helmet on.

[Ma12kez]

putting your face in the game is harder than it should be. I was having massive lighting problems as I tried doing it around midnight last night, but I turned all the lights on in the room. One side of my face was all dark and looked like it had mildew growing on my cheek. Having a shaggy haircut didn't help either as my hair was all whack.

It got my sideburns in suprisingly, but the goatee didn't scan in. Not sure if it is capable of it or not though.Never use artificial sunlight when trying to map your face. For the best results, you need to use natural sunlight (around noon or later). Artificial sunlight (lamps) makes your skin off color, and most of the time it's way too bright. Just position the camera so that a window (where the sunlight illuminates) is behind it, and you should be able to get an accurate picture with ease.

[fraggedbylaggers]

My hair looks pretty bad but I did what the guy above me did and wear a helmet. I am wondering what girls (do any play this game) hair looks like if it is really long-it probably looks awful. My mustache came out really well though...

[Lieutenant Dan]

I hope they fix the bug where when someones firing and they lag out or whatever you can consantly hear their gun going off. So annoying.

I hate that so much. What I've been doing to fix that is just joining smaller games (8-12) with mostly green ping. Just a better overall experience as well.

[Z-Saber]

I noticed they changed the Terrorist Hunt XP... does that mean they lowered the 600 points you get from eliminating the 25 terrorists in LVU on Realistic/high density? Cuz... that would kinda suck for us experience whores.

[WildWop]

I noticed they changed the Terrorist Hunt XP... does that mean they lowered the 600 points you get from eliminating the 25 terrorists in LVU on Realistic/high density? Cuz... that would kinda suck for us experience whores.

Not unless they did that this morning. I did about 15 runs through LVU yesterday, 600xp per.

[ryosnk]

Hi, just got the game and what wondering, do I need to log online to create a character? I don't see the option for it and I dont have xbox live gold.

Thanks.

[CrimsonPaw]

Went down to BB on Saturday and both stores were sold out. The first store said they couldn't give me a raincheck ... I said "so you're telling me that both stores have none and there's no way to honor this price"? The lady said "yup, we can't give rainchecks on it".

I went to the second store and the guy was really cool about it saying they had a copy that morning but it's gone. He thought they should be restocked this week the gave me a raincheck for it.

I'm hoping I can get it sometime before the weekend.

[Ma12kez]

Hi, just got the game and what wondering, do I need to log online to create a character? I don't see the option for it and I dont have xbox live gold.

Thanks.Yes. You can only use your custom character when you play over Live.

[Odenat]

Yes. You can only use your custom character when you play over Live. I know that you can play your custom guy on single player T-Hunt. But as far as the single player I don't think you can use one.

[Ma12kez]

I know that you can play your custom guy on single player T-Hunt. But as far as the single player I don't think you can use one.Good call. I completely forgot about the single player T-hunt. Maybe split-screen co-op lets you use your custom character as well? I've never tried split screen so I wouldn't know.

[Z-Saber]

Good call. I completely forgot about the single player T-hunt. Maybe split-screen co-op lets you use your custom character as well? I've never tried split screen so I wouldn't know.Yes, you can use it in splitscreen, but my non-Gold coop partner could not. As in, he hasn't made one, so he couldn't use one, but it might be possible for another Gold account to make a character and use it offline.

[Monsta Mack]

Just got this game yesterday.

One Q: If I beat this game on realistic difficulty in SP, will I earn the achivement for beating it in normal as well? I'm beating the game co-op with my Wife first, so I hope I don't have to beat the game three times, rather twice.

Also are there clans put in? (too lazy to look into it myself)

Peace.

[ryosnk]

So I need to be a gold member to create a character?

Thanks.

[Ma12kez]

Just got this game yesterday.

One Q: If I beat this game on realistic difficulty in SP, will I earn the achivement for beating it in normal as well? I'm beating the game co-op with my Wife first, so I hope I don't have to beat the game three times, rather twice.

Also are there clans put in? (too lazy to look into it myself)

Peace.Yes and sort of. You can put a three letter prefix in front of your gamertag in-game, but that's it.

[WildWop]

Yes and sort of. You can put a three letter prefix in front of your gamertag in-game, but that's it.

It's so strange that MS didn't put clan support into the default XBL API... making devs jump through hoops to create their own clan function means we end up with "edit your prefix" as a "feature".

Meh.

At least this way I'm not tempted to encourage a CAG clan. Much.

[Monsta Mack]

Man and I thought COD2 Veteran was tough. The Realstic mode by yourself is pretty brutal when your team mates aren't there, and even then when you peek your head out for 2 seconds your done. Can't wait to beat the game on Realstic to wear the achivement badge proudly.

[Maynard]

I just got this and i was hooked on multiplayer but man the single player game fucking rocks too. I had to start it on realistic so i get the most out of the game and man its tough as hell. I've been playing all day and just got inside the casino finally.

[Logg]

I just got this and i was hooked on multiplayer but man the single player game fucking rocks too. I had to start it on realistic so i get the most out of the game and man its tough as hell. I've been playing all day and just got inside the casino finally.


Yea I got this game last week, I loved loved every Rainbow Six game I have ever played, and this is my favorite. I am trying to beat the game first before I get really in to the Multiplayer. l am at the Freemont Streets I think its called. I dig the way the missions are so damn long. Also this game looks great on my 19 inch (small I know) VGA 720 HD Monitor.

[seanr1221]

Single player in this does rock. I'm at Dante's now, and as soon as I finish up the single player mode, I'm going back online with it.

[nasum]

it seems like no one ever wants to fill up a dedicated 16-player server... I want those five points damnit!

[WildWop]

it seems like no one ever wants to fill up a dedicated 16-player server... I want those five points damnit!

I agree. That achievement is awful.

I also don't like the "complete all the t-hunt maps in splitscreen". Why are they specifying i have to do it splitscreen? I should think it'd be enough to complete all the t-hunt maps online.

[sj41]

The achievements in this game seem far too difficult to get. I've played for a couple hours and still have not gotten one. Fun game, though, and I think I'm going to go on a little marathon and play through the campaign over the next couple days.

[Monsta Mack]

Well Just got the Rainbow Six Legend achivement, by beating the game on realistic difficulty. My wife stared at me in alot of bad ways when I was whining like a two year old getting cheaply killed left and right.

I think most of the multiplayer achivements look pretty doable without too much problem except the True Identity and 16-player achivement. TI because I don't feel like burning $40 on a webcam just for a achivement, and 16 players because you gota host a dedicated server and get lucky.

Now time for the hard ass t-hunt by myself on realistic difficulty achivement :( I did the first map and got pwned, but had no trouble getting the co-op t-hunt achivement with the wife on normal difficulty.

[Logg]

Hey I think just for hell of it, on Mulitplayer on Live, we should all put CAG in front of our names.

[seanr1221]

Hey I think just for hell of it, on Mulitplayer on Live, we should all put CAG in front of our names.

I already do

[DT778]

same here.

[skinsfan56la]

After reading this i'm going to join the CAG clan.

[Logg]

OK I will start tonight I will be on sometime today, I think I am going to try and finish Call of Duty 2 first.

But if I am on any game and you cats want to play just throw me a invite.

[jlarlee]

finally rented this and I'm loving it. My face scan was pretty damn good except that it makes me look like im balding

[nasum]

but youa re balding, and now we all know because we can see you on the onlines.

[DT778]

finally rented this and I'm loving it. My face scan was pretty damn good except that it makes me look like im baldingjust throw on a cap on your character.;)

[sj41]

I love this game. Better than Gears for sure.

[jlarlee]

just throw on a cap on your character.;)

tossed the tact helmet on when i ranked it works

[Kendal]

I need help. I am at the end and I can't beat the game. I need to kill someone and it says that they get away. HELP!

[Ma12kez]

I need help. I am at the end and I can't beat the game. I need to kill someone and it says that they get away. HELP!A little more description would help so that we know what exact part you're stuck at. I'm betting it's Irena, and you're either chasing after her, or she's still locked in the bulletproof room above you where the guys just rappel down and ambush you. If that's the case, place your guys in the middle of the room (bottom floor) right before the rappel lines behind some boxes. Go to where you need to hack (by yourself) then hold "A." That should trigger the event where the guys drop down, and your teammates should be in a flanking position (even though they are moving towards you). Just be sure to cover them, and you should be good. Doing it this way will allow for both your teammates to provide cover instead of just one.

If this wasn't the area you were stuck at, please give us a better description.

[Kendal]

A little more description would help so that we know what exact part you're stuck at. I'm betting it's Irena, and you're either chasing after her, or she's still locked in the bulletproof room above you where the guys just rappel down and ambush you. If that's the case, place your guys in the middle of the room (bottom floor) right before the rappel lines behind some boxes. Go to where you need to hack (by yourself) then hold "A." That should trigger the event where the guys drop down, and your teammates should be in a flanking position (even though they are moving towards you). Just be sure to cover them, and you should be good. Doing it this way will allow for both your teammates to provide cover instead of just one.

If this wasn't the area you were stuck at, please give us a better description.

Can I hack the comp myself? Or does the asian guy with the computer hacking skillz have to do it?

[Ma12kez]

Can I hack the comp myself? Or does the asian guy with the computer hacking skillz have to do it?Jung will have to hack it, but by positioning both your teamates as specified eariler away from the computer (before ordering Jung to hack) will force them to move in unison towards the computer (eliminating hostiles as a priority on the way). Jung will not assist you throughout the entire ambush, but it makes things a lot easier.

[nintendokid]

So did you guys ever figure out why Ubisoft did not put in a split-screen/system-link adverserial mode? Just curious about the verdict.

[Monsta Mack]

This 16 player achivement seems impossible. I've been on the dedicated host server forever and not more then one person has joined.

[Kendal]

Need help from anyone who beat the game. Spoilers for those still in Mexico.

I am still stuck at the latter part of the dam. Jung hacks the computer and Michael is a pussy and dies damn near everytime. Ok so I am killing terrorists, Jung hacking then the POI changes to upstairs. I clear the lower floor of terrorist sons of bitches. I head towards the stairs and BAM! You fail at life, please reload. What the hell am I doing wrong?

[shipwreck]

Need help from anyone who beat the game. Spoilers for those still in Mexico.

I am still stuck at the latter part of the dam. Jung hacks the computer and Michael is a pussy and dies damn near everytime. Ok so I am killing terrorists, Jung hacking then the POI changes to upstairs. I clear the lower floor of terrorist sons of bitches. I head towards the stairs and BAM! You fail at life, please reload. What the hell am I doing wrong?

I had this same issue a couple of times. And then I did something slightly different. For the life of me, I can't remember what I did to not get that message though. It might have something to do with a small cutscene type thing with your team, that gets triggered somehow. I remember they had to tell you something and then you could go upstairs. I imagine this post has been terribly helpful.

[felixlighter]

Need help from anyone who beat the game. Spoilers for those still in Mexico.

I am still stuck at the latter part of the dam. Jung hacks the computer and Michael is a pussy and dies damn near everytime. Ok so I am killing terrorists, Jung hacking then the POI changes to upstairs. I clear the lower floor of terrorist sons of bitches. I head towards the stairs and BAM! You fail at life, please reload. What the hell am I doing wrong?


Wait until he is finished hacking the computer before you go up the stairs. When you go up the stairs early the woman you are trying to capture sees you and escapes before Jung can lock her in the room...

Hopefully that helps...

[flybrione]

Also if you are having trouble protecting Jung use smoke grenades for cover. Sit in the smoke and use your thermals to pick off the terrorists. This part was a pain on realistic.

[moojuice]

Need help from anyone who beat the game. Spoilers for those still in Mexico.

I am still stuck at the latter part of the dam. Jung hacks the computer and Michael is a pussy and dies damn near everytime. Ok so I am killing terrorists, Jung hacking then the POI changes to upstairs. I clear the lower floor of terrorist sons of bitches. I head towards the stairs and BAM! You fail at life, please reload. What the hell am I doing wrong?

Make sure you hear the dialouge before you go upstairs. If you never hear it, run around the warehouse untill you make more enemies spawn. The key is the dialouge. Oh, and also, when you do hear the dialouge and go upstairs, be careful ;)

[rly723]

any current deals for this game right now?? like in th $40 range?

[drbutchevil]

I'd love to play for just one damn night without having a disconnect from Live. These ONLY happen when I play R6, this is annoying.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I don't mean to threadcrap or anything, but I just don't really get this game.

I played through the entire single player campaign, and while kinda fun, wasn't really all that strategic or anything. It was basically just running from point A to point B commanding your squadmates to take out targets ahead of you, then taking cover and occasionally popping out to shoot terrorists. In fact, it there was surprisingly little urgency to the game since the enemies never came out to rush you like they do in GoW. The game had moments of brilliance, like when you have to use smoke or flash grenades to blind targets and take them out before they kill any hostages, but the rest of it was just too simple.

So then I tried mutliplayer, because everyone says that's where it's at in Rainbow Six. And maybe I just suck (a lot), but I couldn't get into multiplayer either as you can't take much damage at all and people can hide behind cover. As a result, it seemed like I was constantly getting picked off without even knowing where the damage came from. I gave it several hours, but I'm still unable to understand where the strategy and tactics come into play beyond the usual capture the flag style of teamwork.

I dunno, maybe it's because I don't have any friends with the game on Xbox Live, or maybe it's because I've been playing on a 13" SDTV, or maybe I just need to play it a lot more until I can gain far better understanding of the maps (and obtain new items), but the supposed brilliance of this game seems to elude me. Or is there something vital that I'm missing here?

[mr ryles]

I think you are trying to play it gears of war style on not tactical style.

you complain about people hiding behind cover and picking you off and not getting rushed by enemies. To play the game you should do what the other people that kill you do. Take cover and plan out a strategy, not just run forward looking to get killed. Maybe try playing on realistic and you'll see how to play the game.

and buy a bigger TV you bum.

[Narbotic]

It was the ranking system in online that really hooked it for me. Try playing some defense first off, get a good cover spot and maybe use the mp7 with rifle scope - it's considered the most "unfair" weapon.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

I think you are trying to play it gears of war style on not tactical style.

you complain about people hiding behind cover and picking you off and not getting rushed by enemies. To play the game you should do what the other people that kill you do. Take cover and plan out a strategy, not just run forward looking to get killed. Maybe try playing on realistic and you'll see how to play the game.

and buy a bigger TV you bum.

I do hide behind cover, but the game often just seems like a big snipe fest. Like if you are the one being sniped, you often won't see your attacker until it's too late. OR, if you're the one doing the sniping, someone can just sneak up behind you and start shooting and you'll die too quickly to properly defend yourself. I feel like GoW is more tactical, because you really have to not be paying attention in order for someone to sneak up on you with a chainsaw, but in R6 your enemies can pick you off from 20 ft away with only a couple shots from a submachine gun. Some people say this makes the game more realistic, but to me it just makes things less fun because you're always too succeptable to getting killed.

[moojuice]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=151C3FZP

Got my GameBrudge the other day, took a vid of multiplayer, playing as a sniper(I dunno why, I love playing as a sniper). This is a full 10-minute match, so thats why the file is so large. For the lazy, here's a summary:
First minute or so: A glitcher. Apparently theres somewhere you can hide, but not be seen when you pop out, as you can see by my crosshairs, which is where the shooter SHOULD be, because of the tracers.
1:55- Well, down goes glitcher, and a pistol to the chest.
3:00- Miss a guy couple times, I see an opportunity for a double kill, but barley miss the close guy. Follow up with a frag kill
3:40- A nice incenerary kill. Barley see the guys head.
4:15- How NOT to play as a sniper. Got greedy and stood out in the open
5:00- Stupid pipe. Aim was perfect, but there just HAD to be a tupid little fragment of the pipe that saved this guys as several times, but eventually I got him.
5:28- Just lucky timing. I decide to pop out, he decides to pop out right after. Bam, +1 for me.
6:10- Just another frag, not that special
6:40- Lawl, I just BARELEY miss couple times, lucky guy. The last shot, way off, I know, I just got pissed and fired off a round for the hell of it.
8:10- Cross nading, good straegy to ward of "spawn" campers. Also, a horrible pistol kill by me >_<

Overall, 9 kills, 6 deaths. Not too bad considering we had 3 snipers on our team. Which is also why we barley lost in the last few seconds- they finally got to our porch/sides.

[sj41]

I'm at the part where Jung is hacking the computer inside of dante's casino, and I need to protect him while 30 fucking terrorists rush from throughout the theatre room. I have 1 smoke grenade, so I can't hide him for too long. It's bullshit that the computer will explode after a few hits. This shit is fucking impossible, as I've restarted probally over 50 times. I've loved the game up to this point, and it's sad that this broken shit is preventing me from playing the rest of the game. I've never gotten so pissed off about a video game in my life. Is there something I can do?

[slickkill77]

I just beat the game on realistic...arg...anyway what you need to do is send michael near the box that holds the automatic machine gun and you need to go to the left side of Jung behind the other brownish/tan box...

[DrFoo]

Need help from anyone who beat the game. Spoilers for those still in Mexico.

I am still stuck at the latter part of the dam. Jung hacks the computer and Michael is a pussy and dies damn near everytime. Ok so I am killing terrorists, Jung hacking then the POI changes to upstairs. I clear the lower floor of terrorist sons of bitches. I head towards the stairs and BAM! You fail at life, please reload. What the hell am I doing wrong?
That was the hardest part of the game for me. I had no idea why I was losing.

[H-Town Info]

anyone up for some r6 vegas action tonight?

[rly723]

i just ordered this game for $47, is this a good deal? or should i wait for a further price drop anytime soon?

[sonicbooom]

i just ordered this game for $47, is this a good deal? or should i wait for a further price drop anytime soon?
Deepdiscountdvd?

I tried to get it for about that price but the coupon expired.

[rly723]

Deepdiscountdvd?

I tried to get it for about that price but the coupon expired.


yeah i ordered last night, checked the status that it was on backorder so i cancelled it. i'll just use the BB $10 off coupon or get it from play asia once its in stock

[Mojimbo]

EGM did a 1 page write up in the newest issue with small details about the GRAW-esque DLC that's coming out in a couple of months, has it already been mentioned?

[LinkinPrime]

I got the info from the latest OXM:

Rainbow Six Vegas: Player's Pack
* To Be released March
*10 New multiplayer Maps
* New game modes: Assassination (escort), & Conquest (territories)

Price Not yet revealed.

[Odenat]

I got the info from the latest OXM:

Rainbow Six Vegas: Player's Pack
* To Be released March
*10 New multiplayer Maps
* New game modes: Assassination (escort), & Conquest (territories)

Price Not yet revealed.

This makes me very happy. Any CAGs that play this feel free to send me a friends invite i'm usually on every night. I'm on my invisible bar before I rank up from captain so maybe I might catch some of you on tonight.

[A Happy Panda]

I'm at the part where Jung is hacking the computer inside of dante's casino, and I need to protect him while 30 fucking terrorists rush from throughout the theatre room. I have 1 smoke grenade, so I can't hide him for too long. It's bullshit that the computer will explode after a few hits. This shit is fucking impossible, as I've restarted probally over 50 times. I've loved the game up to this point, and it's sad that this broken shit is preventing me from playing the rest of the game. I've never gotten so pissed off about a video game in my life. Is there something I can do?

LOL.

It was an annoying part I agree, it took me like 3 or 4 tries. Just remember the enemy patterns, and shoot them in the sequence you remember them. Like, I'd always shoot the two in the middle, the two to the right, then to the left, then shoot them as they came. Also, if you have any more frag nades, be sure to just chuck them down onto the floor when they start rapelling in and coming through the main entrance. I also hid to the left of the computer, behind one of those black boxes.


Also, I'd love to get some online going. Anyone who wants to add me can.

[danked]

I got the info from the latest OXM:

Rainbow Six Vegas: Player's Pack
* To Be released March
*10 New multiplayer Maps
* New game modes: Assassination (escort), & Conquest (territories)

Price Not yet revealed.

pretty sure it will be way over priced just like Graw =(

[sonicbooom]

yeah i ordered last night, checked the status that it was on backorder so i cancelled it. i'll just use the BB $10 off coupon or get it from play asia once its in stock
lol, did you post that in the dvdtalk thread? I think I saw somebody post they bought it yesterday.

[a_secret_boss]

as a cheapass gamer, 800 points for maps and modes is too much for me

[mr ryles]

I'm guessing a 1600 point price tag. Which I don't think is to bad considering 10 new maps and 2 new game modes.

[sonicbooom]

Do you guys think this game is as fun as Gears of War? From what I've read and from the pictures I've seen, the gameplay for both is similar.

[mr ryles]

Do you guys think this game is as fun as Gears of War? From what I've read and from the pictures I've seen, the gameplay for both is similar.

They're similar and different at the same time. Both games revolve around taking cover and stratagizing a plan of attack. The differences being that in gears of war you are an armored up cog or an alien that can take about 30 bullets, in rainbow six you can take like 3 bullets. Both are fun to play but rainbow six takes more work to get good at and has the realism factor.

[sj41]

LOL.

It was an annoying part I agree, it took me like 3 or 4 tries. Just remember the enemy patterns, and shoot them in the sequence you remember them. Like, I'd always shoot the two in the middle, the two to the right, then to the left, then shoot them as they came. Also, if you have any more frag nades, be sure to just chuck them down onto the floor when they start rapelling in and coming through the main entrance. I also hid to the left of the computer, behind one of those black boxes.


Also, I'd love to get some online going. Anyone who wants to add me can.I felt extremely bad and yet really good at the same time a few days ago when I beat this. I restarted the scene with a 100 bullet machine gun and beat it in 1 try, after the dozens of attempts previously. I had a bad weapon for that part of the game, obviously, and it cost me atleast an hour of frustration in total over a few days. It's done now, though, and I'm on the last Chapter.

[moojuice]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O7YSTZ0O
Dumb glitch I found.

[Z-Saber]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O7YSTZ0O
Dumb glitch I found.Too good for YouTube?

[help1]

Too good for YouTube?

Lol

Any who, that paypal 15 dollars of 30 expires at the end of march, any chance this will take a drop on ebay to around 35 (its at around 45 right now). 20 AR would be sweet!

[moojuice]

Too good for YouTube? Tried it. Quality got raped up bum. Youtube is too good for me.

[CrimsonPaw]

I might have to restart this game and play on the "pussy" level. I'm on the second compaign (the first time going inside a Casino) and am at the part where you're hunting down the computer room to hack (I think). Anyway, I get to the Hotel lobby and need to go up like 6 flights of stairs, so far I have BARELY made it to the 3rd floor up before I get massacred. There's like a rush of 10 guys at once every floor you go up ... after restarting the checkpoint about 15 times I said "fuck this, I'm playing Saint's Row".

[Ma12kez]

I might have to restart this game and play on the "pussy" level. I'm on the second compaign (the first time going inside a Casino) and am at the part where you're hunting down the computer room to hack (I think). Anyway, I get to the Hotel lobby and need to go up like 6 flights of stairs, so far I have BARELY made it to the 3rd floor up before I get massacred. There's like a rush of 10 guys at once every floor you go up ... after restarting the checkpoint about 15 times I said "fuck this, I'm playing Saint's Row".When you go up the first flight of stairs, there should be a door to another room on the same floor. This door will lead you to a stairwell where you'll be safe from any hostiles. There's a room like this on EVERY floor, so use it to your advantage when taking out the hostiles. Everytime you go up a flight of stairs, you'll trigger more enemies to your position. So trigger them, then run back to the stairwell room. I would suggest that you bring the scout rifle with you on this level as well, or at least something with a good amount of zoom.

Hope this helps.

[CrimsonPaw]

When you go up the first flight of stairs, there should be a door to another room on the same floor. This door will lead you to a stairwell where you'll be safe from any hostiles. There's a room like this on EVERY floor, so use it to your advantage when taking out the hostiles. Everytime you go up a flight of stairs, you'll trigger more enemies to your position. So trigger them, then run back to the stairwell room. I would suggest that you bring the scout rifle with you on this level as well, or at least something with a good amount of zoom.

Hope this helps.
Yeah, that does help. I found it on the first floor but then got RAPED on floors 2 and 3. Does the stairwell go up to the next floor? Like can I just use that stairwell to progress through the floors (and taking the baddies out from cover)?

[SteveMcQ]

Yeah, that does help. I found it on the first floor but then got RAPED on floors 2 and 3. Does the stairwell go up to the next floor? Like can I just use that stairwell to progress through the floors (and taking the baddies out from cover)?Nah, at some point the stairs in the access stairwell are broken so you will have to go out into the outside hallway. When you do get across the way from the stairway access though, watch out for the door on the next floor up as some enemies spawn and try to pick you off from the doorway of the stairway access.

[Ma12kez]

Yeah, that does help. I found it on the first floor but then got RAPED on floors 2 and 3. Does the stairwell go up to the next floor? Like can I just use that stairwell to progress through the floors (and taking the baddies out from cover)?From my experience, I think it only goes up ONE floor. So just take out whoever you can (drawing them out with pistol fire works too), and run to the next floor. If you trigger another set of enemies just run back to the same stairwell you came out of. I can't stress enough how important it is to have a sniper rifle with you at this level.

[moojuice]

Smoke helps. Just throw one on the top of the stairs, haul, and sit in the smoke real quick, while bringing up your tactical map and look for the stairwell room like Markez pointed out. Then, haul into that room. And all this needs to happen within a span of a few seconds.

When you get in the stairwell room, send your teammates either to the next door, or upstairs (I cant remember atm), and have them pick off anyone that tries to get to you. Then, from where you entered the stiarwell, cover up against the wall, and pick off as many as you can. When you can't see anyone else, move to the next area.

If you still have trouble, I could post something along the lines of a video walkthrough, but I wouldn't really have enough time untill Friday afternoon/night. Or if anyone else is struggling somewhere else, and wants to see something actually done on video, I could show you.

Edit: Ok, just realized that you can get to the stairwell. Anyways, IIRC, there are other stairwells, no?

[drbutchevil]

I am getting rather sick of going like 35-6 in a rank match only to be kicked because the host doesn't want to lose. They should do away with that.

As for the multiplayer pack, heres some new info:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/763/763959p1.html

[DT778]

I might have to restart this game and play on the "pussy" level. I'm on the second compaign (the first time going inside a Casino) and am at the part where you're hunting down the computer room to hack (I think). Anyway, I get to the Hotel lobby and need to go up like 6 flights of stairs, so far I have BARELY made it to the 3rd floor up before I get massacred. There's like a rush of 10 guys at once every floor you go up ... after restarting the checkpoint about 15 times I said "fuck this, I'm playing Saint's Row".my brother and I just tried this level and failed. we got to the top but we both got killed in the hostages room. I blame my dumb ass for forgetting I was playing rainbow six and sorta rushing the room, not once but twice. Going to try it again another night.

[sonicbooom]

I just got the game today (from joshthegreat69, thanks) and I started out on realistic difficulty. I couldn't get past the first part. I that's only because I'm drunk right now. But I promised myself I wouldn't start out videogames on pussy difficulties anymore, so I'll get past that part sometime this week when I play it again.

[PyroGamer]

I can't even figure out how to put it on Realistic difficulty :(

10 maps is pretty fucking sweet. Despite releasing a new instalment in their series annualy, Ubisoft knows how to make a game last.

[moojuice]

I can't even figure out how to put it on Realistic difficulty :(

I don't think you can change it mid-game. If you want realistic, you have to start over. Also, beware, there is some glitch where the difficulty will somehow reset to normal, and you won't get the achievment for beating it on realistic.

[flybrione]

IGN states today 5 new maps (actually three new and two relit) and two new game modes.

[danked]

expect it to knock off between 800 and 1,200 Microsoft Points of your account. hahahahahahahhah fuck that

[SteveMcQ]

WTF?!?! "TO BE CONTINUED"???? Bull shit.

[PyroGamer]

IGN states today 5 new maps (actually three new and two relit) and two new game modes.
Yeah, but that's just the "red pack".

I'm pretty sure there will be another pack... maybe a "blue" pack. Personally I'm hoping for a "pink" pack.

[R1V3R5]

I don't think you can change it mid-game. If you want realistic, you have to start over. Also, beware, there is some glitch where the difficulty will somehow reset to normal, and you won't get the achievment for beating it on realistic.

Sounds like the Ubisoft that we have all come to know and love.

[CrimsonPaw]

my brother and I just tried this level and failed. we got to the top but we both got killed in the hostages room. I blame my dumb ass for forgetting I was playing rainbow six and sorta rushing the room, not once but twice. Going to try it again another night.
Well, I was able to get to the top floor last night on my 5th attempt, talk about having to memorize where to step ... please tell me there aren't alot of firefights like this one.

Anyway, get to the top floor and what happened here to DT778 happened to me. I snake-camed the room, was trying to decide which guys to tag and how to open the door, then RAT-TAT-TAT -- all hostages dead thanks to the terrorists ... MOTHERF***ER!!!! I put the controller down, turned off the 360, and took 5 minutes to calm down. I'll try again tonight now that I know what I'm up against.

[Ma12kez]

Well, I was able to get to the top floor last night on my 5th attempt, talk about having to memorize where to step ... please tell me there aren't alot of firefights like this one.

Anyway, get to the top floor and what happened here to DT778 happened to me. I snake-camed the room, was trying to decide which guys to tag and how to open the door, then RAT-TAT-TAT -- all hostages dead thanks to the terrorists ... MOTHERF***ER!!!! I put the controller down, turned off the 360, and took 5 minutes to calm down. I'll try again tonight now that I know what I'm up against.There should be a ladder you can go up to that leads into the hostage room. From there you have a perfect vantage point on how to execute the entry plan for your team. Just pop the terrorists closest to the hostages while sending in your team at the same time, and it should be a piece of cake.

[moojuice]

There should be a ladder you can go up to that leads into the hostage room. From there you have a perfect vantage point on how to execute the entry plan for your team. Just pop the terrorists closest to the hostages while sending in your team at the same time, and it should be a piece of cake.

Actually, you just can't take your time. I listened to the dialouge the first time, and yeah, won't spoil it, but you can't take your time.

Anyways, heres the takedown down sucessfully, and then me messing around after:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AQYQP120

I also have a vid of the whole fighting up the escalators part, and a failed takedown after(only because it glitched, you'll see), but I won't be able to get that up until tommorow.

[Ma12kez]

Actually, you just can't take your time. I listened to the dialouge the first time, and yeah, won't spoil it, but you can't take your time.It doesn't take too long to climb the ladder and get into the next room. They give you an ample amount of time, even on the realistic difficulty. You just need to be precise.

[moojuice]

It doesn't take too long to climb the ladder and get into the next room. They give you an ample amount of time, even on the realistic difficulty. You just need to be precise.
My bad, didn't mean to make it sound like the ladder took too long (I'll even admit, I didn't even know there was a ladder). It's just because he said that he didn't even get a chance to get in the room, I knew he was taking way too much time.

Edit: I just watched my own video, and now I see it >_<

[moojuice]

Well, here is the vid.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V95ODRE9
5:30=LOL, guy even thrusts his hips.
And if you watch the attempted takedown, you can clearly see blood many times, he just never drops.

[DT778]

Well, I was able to get to the top floor last night on my 5th attempt, talk about having to memorize where to step ... please tell me there aren't alot of firefights like this one.

Anyway, get to the top floor and what happened here to DT778 happened to me. I snake-camed the room, was trying to decide which guys to tag and how to open the door, then RAT-TAT-TAT -- all hostages dead thanks to the terrorists ... MOTHERF***ER!!!! I put the controller down, turned off the 360, and took 5 minutes to calm down. I'll try again tonight now that I know what I'm up against.We passed it last night. This time we used a better strategy. My brother went through the door I went went in from behind the stage.

[Weedy649]

I recently got the game and must say im happy i did. I tried the face mapping and finally made a guy that looks somewhat like me...except he has a really annoying mark on the top of his head >.< I guess a hat will fix that in the future

anyhow, i played the entire co-op with a friend friday, and its a pretty lengthy/satisfying adventure.

Since i beat the game once, i wanted to just play it on realistic for single player, but sadly it seems the glitch where it switches the difficulty to normal is still there :( Anyway around this?

Also i found a glitch when i was playing, i tried to get against a wall and throw a grenade in a room but it wouldn't let me. Not only that, but i couldn't get off the wall anymore and nothing i tried would, so i had to just let my friend finish the level ;(

[bsesb2003]

This game is just too hard for me, yikes.

[asianxcore]

Just started playing the game a couple days ago. So much fun.

Stupid question, but does anyone know how you get into the face mapping program? I already made a custom character for XBL, without using the face mapping, and I can't seem to be able to change it.

[GenDV138]

Just started playing the game a couple days ago. So much fun.

Stupid question, but does anyone know how you get into the face mapping program? I already made a custom character for XBL, without using the face mapping, and I can't seem to be able to change it.

After you enter Xbox Live from the main menu in Vegas, it's somewhere in the last menu option where you can check your rank, clan tag/prefix, etc. You need to reset your character's appearance to change the face, when you choose your face, the last option should be the Vision Camera.

[DT778]

I want to use the shield in t-hunt so I'm going through the missions solo now since I'm pretty sure it wont let you pick it up in co-op story. If I pick it up can my roommate use it too or does he also have to pick it up on his own solo story mode? We are playing offline splitscreen if it matters.

[moojuice]

I want to use the shield in t-hunt so I'm going through the missions solo now since I'm pretty sure it wont let you pick it up in co-op story. If I pick it up can my roommate use it too or does he also have to pick it up on his own solo story mode? We are playing offline splitscreen if it matters.
No, he has to pick it up, but he can pick it up from you. Just turn on or off friendly fire (whichever makes it so you can kill eah other). You have a shield, he kills you, take your shield, then he should be able to select it in the equipment. Or, play a level, find a gun a T drops, you swap your sheild for it, he swaps his gun for your shield.

I'm fairly sure that would work. When I play with my friend in Co-Op t-hunt(offline), if he takes one of my weapons when I die that he doesn't have(not sure if you have to finish the level, its been a while), he can chose it in the equipment the next game.

[norkusa]

Does anyone know exactly how the Normal/Realistic difficulty glitch happens? I beat the game on Normal and am starting over on Realistic. Just want to make sure I avoid the glitch (if possible) or else I'll be REAAAAALY pissed after I beat the game and I don't get my 100 achievement points.

[moojuice]

Does anyone know exactly how the Normal/Realistic difficulty glitch happens? I beat the game on Normal and am starting over on Realistic. Just want to make sure I avoid the glitch (if possible) or else I'll be REAAAAALY pissed after I beat the game and I don't get my 100 achievement points.

IIRC, when you get shot, on realistic, is doesn't show where from.

[spidey]

IIRC, when you get shot, on realistic, is doesn't show where from.

The difference on realistic is that your crosshairs won't turn red when you have it pointing at an enemy. Makes it more difficult to aim. Bullets also do more damage.

As for the glitch, I believe the safe way to do it is by going into your system blade. Going into your hard drive and deleting your checkpoint save file. Then start the game all over from the beginning on realistic difficulty. That's the last that I've read about it.

[Mojimbo]

As far as I know, selecting the normal difficulty at all screws it up and you'll be able to start at Realistic but when you resume your save it will default to Normal. I tried deleting all the save files associated with RSV through the dashboard but that didn't work either. Not sure if they've patched it yet but I doubt it. For a hint, your reticule will light up (orange/red, I think) when it hovers over an enemy on Normal but not on Realistic.

EDIT: Too slow.

[Weedy649]

As far as I know, selecting the normal difficulty at all screws it up and you'll be able to start at Realistic but when you resume your save it will default to Normal. I tried deleting all the save files associated with RSV through the dashboard but that didn't work either. Not sure if they've patched it yet but I doubt it. For a hint, your reticule will light up (orange/red, I think) when it hovers over an enemy on Normal but not on Realistic.

EDIT: Too slow.

So if i never played on normal i should be all set? I beat the co-op on normal so i wanna just go straight to realistic for single player.

[PyroGamer]

Guys, I have a big problem.

On the Dam level, I've brought the technician to the computer, and he told me to go hack the computer (that's on the "old system") in another building to give him access to the floodgates. So I get a checkpoint, and run down to activate the thing. No matter how fast I get Kim on the computer, it always gives me the messege "you didn't open the floodgates in time."

How in the hell do you get past this part? No matter how fast I go I always can't do it in time.

[SteveMcQ]

Guys, I have a big problem.

On the Dam level, I've brought the technician to the computer, and he told me to go hack the computer (that's on the "old system") in another building to give him access to the floodgates. So I get a checkpoint, and run down to activate the thing. No matter how fast I get Kim on the computer, it always gives me the messege "you didn't open the floodgates in time."

How in the hell do you get past this part? No matter how fast I go I always can't do it in time.It's on that long, empty walkway (for the moment) after you clear about four terrorists near the forklifts right? Right next to the water?

It's probably because the terrorists destroy the controls before he finishes. They like tossing grenades. There's one main group that comes from where you entered the outdoor area. Then there's two more that toss grenades behind you, coming from the dead end with the garage doors. Two guys pop out from there. Just have the one free guy set up with you near that garage door. He'll try to hold off the main group, while you watch out for the two behind you. A quick grenade toss as the doors open or a C4 right at the opening should take care of them. After that, just snipe away at the group incoming so they can't get close enough to destroy the console.

[rly723]

damn i justgot this game, its pretty hard...i guess because i'm used to the GoW style of play, so its different. maybe if i play it more, maybe i'll like it..but so far, not my preference. kind wished i saved the $40 to use towards crackdown or mlb 2k7

[spidey]

damn i justgot this game, its pretty hard...i guess because i'm used to the GoW style of play, so its different. maybe if i play it more, maybe i'll like it..but so far, not my preference. kind wished i saved the $40 to use towards crackdown or mlb 2k7

Always take cover. If you are moving into a new area, make sure to snake cam doors and set up your attack. Choose the right weapon for your situation. If you are indoors in smaller areas use a SMG. If you are out in the open with more range, use an assault rifle.

For tougher situations, smoke for cover and use thermal goggles. This bit helps out a lot in the game.

I think the most important/helpful feature in the game is the map since it plots enemy positions. It lets you know exactly where they are and lets you set up the attack.

Don't give up. It's a great game. You just have to get used to it.

[norkusa]

damn i justgot this game, its pretty hard...i guess because i'm used to the GoW style of play, so its different. maybe if i play it more, maybe i'll like it..but so far, not my preference. kind wished i saved the $40 to use towards crackdown or mlb 2k7


I felt the same way as you when I first played it but after about a week, it really started to get into it. Just remember, the MP7A1 is your best friend on Live.

[SteveMcQ]

Definitely make use of your squad. Do the leap frog movement where you have them move about 15 feet in front of you to cover, go to them, then repeat the process.

[PyroGamer]

It's on that long, empty walkway (for the moment) after you clear about four terrorists near the forklifts right? Right next to the water?

It's probably because the terrorists destroy the controls before he finishes. They like tossing grenades. There's one main group that comes from where you entered the outdoor area. Then there's two more that toss grenades behind you, coming from the dead end with the garage doors. Two guys pop out from there. Just have the one free guy set up with you near that garage door. He'll try to hold off the main group, while you watch out for the two behind you. A quick grenade toss as the doors open or a C4 right at the opening should take care of them. After that, just snipe away at the group incoming so they can't get close enough to destroy the console.
Thanks man, I actually figured it out myself, which I'm slightly proud of.

I C4'd the pick-up truck coming in, then I shot the main group until just about when the back-doors opened, and as I took out the two guys coming in the back door, I detonated the C4. I was actually able to take them out fast enough that I never had to revive any of my awful CPU-controlled teamates.


rly723, I kind of know what you mean, because the first time I played Ghost Recon I was frusterated, but actually this game is really pretty damn easy. I've only had to restart at some parts where I stupidly run around a corner, or don't realize there's a grenade under my feet.

Other than that it's actually extremely easy. Just get used to it.

I wish I had played on Realistic instead of hard.

Much easier than GoW.

I think the most important/helpful feature in the game is the map since it plots enemy positions. It lets you know exactly where they are and lets you set up the attack.I have not used the map one time since Mexico. I even forgot that it was there.

In MP it's up there in the corner, but in SP you have to press the back button, which means for me taking my left hand off the movement stick.

Takes way too much time.

As such, I absolutely NEVER use the map. Back in Mexico there were points where I tried to use it to figure out where to go, and it just confused me.

[PyroGamer]

Also: for the "use all gadgets" achievment, does that mean like Frag Grenades, Smoke Grenades, Incendiary 'nades, C4, Breaching charge, etc? Because I haven't gotten that yet, and I'm pretty sure I've used all the explosives... or is there a menu I have to go to somewhere to equip gadgets?

I felt the same way as you when I first played it but after about a week, it really started to get into it. Just remember, the MP7A1 is your best friend on Live.
I haven't used anything in SP but the MP9 and Commando rifle w/6x scope since I started the game, expcept, of course, when the Commando runs out of ammo.

Also I've been using the Raging Bull since I picked it up from a dead terrorist. Damn fine pistol.

[rly723]

ive been playing some games on live and has anyone noticed how horrible the camera angles are on here? also i had to quit some games, not sure if it was the lag or anything, but the screen would stutter alot, it was impossible to know even what direction to go at itmes

[Mojimbo]

Also: for the "use all gadgets" achievment, does that mean like Frag Grenades, Smoke Grenades, Incendiary 'nades, C4, Breaching charge, etc? Because I haven't gotten that yet, and I'm pretty sure I've used all the explosives... or is there a menu I have to go to somewhere to equip gadgets?Yeah, it's all of the items in that category. It's not too hard, just hit one of those ammo crates and choose an item, walk a little bit and throw one and backbrack to the crate and repeat.

[Broccoli Storm]

Quick question that hopefully someone can answer. I know this game has 2 player co-op both offline and online, but can two players play in a regular match on the same TV like in Gears of War not going through the missions? Thanks.

[PyroGamer]

Broccoli Storm No. Just co-op.


Yeah, it's all of the items in that category. It's not too hard, just hit one of those ammo crates and choose an item, walk a little bit and throw one and backbrack to the crate and repeat.
By the time I realized I should go for it (Dante's casino, I believe) there weren't any ammo crates left.

I think there are some ammo crates in Mexico, so I suppose it won't be too hard to start a new campaign and finish that one up.

[Weedy649]

Broccoli Storm No. Just co-op.



By the time I realized I should go for it (Dante's casino, I believe) there weren't any ammo crates left.

I think there are some ammo crates in Mexico, so I suppose it won't be too hard to start a new campaign and finish that one up.

Just do scene select and pick trains mission, as a crate box is right there at the start.

Just got done with borders on realistic, and got my tough hombre achievement :). So hopefully my realistic wont reset to normal, but it shouldnt since i started realistic from the begining.

[Mojimbo]

They're less frequent but there are still some crates in the last half of the game, including on the last or next to last mission.

[DT778]

No, he has to pick it up, but he can pick it up from you. Just turn on or off friendly fire (whichever makes it so you can kill eah other). You have a shield, he kills you, take your shield, then he should be able to select it in the equipment. Or, play a level, find a gun a T drops, you swap your sheild for it, he swaps his gun for your shield.

I'm fairly sure that would work. When I play with my friend in Co-Op t-hunt(offline), if he takes one of my weapons when I die that he doesn't have(not sure if you have to finish the level, its been a while), he can chose it in the equipment the next game.thanks dude. Hopefully it works since that would be much better than both of us having to get it.

edit: I picked up the shield on single player and my roommate was able to immediately select it for thunt without me having to drop it.