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Admiral Ackbar
05-27-2004, 07:30 PM
After watching the 20th Day After Tomorrow commercial in under forty minutes I feel like they're begging meto go see it. I mean, it's push, push, push. But the good movies, they get advertising but it's not pushy. I mean, Shreck look goods, and I see an ad at least twice a day, but not every five minutes!

The same thing with Van Helsing. Ad after Ad after Ad. I think this should be a new measuring stick. If they run an ad every five minutes, there has to be something wrong with it.

Moxio
05-27-2004, 07:35 PM
Most advertisements are annoyin'... but look at it this way: Flip the channel.

*cheesy thumbsup*

Admiral Ackbar
05-27-2004, 07:38 PM
Most advertisements are annoyin'... but look at it this way: Flip the channel.

*cheesy thumbsup*

I do... to another Day After Tomorrow commercial.

Thank god for the sanctuary and tranquility of C-Span... Good Times.

oNeWiNgEdAnGeL
05-27-2004, 07:39 PM
Getting the moive into your head makes you want o see if more. The movie companies pay more for advertising. Considering Shrek 2 is known, just a few commericals would expose the movie out. Movies, such as Van Helsing and The Day After Tomorrow are popcorn flicks that are looking for advertisements to bring in a lot of revenue.

I get annoyed as well. I was looking forward to seeing The Day After Tomorrow, but after all these commericals, I'm not that hyped up anymore. I'll still see it, but I'm not as excited to see it as I was since last year.

Moxio
05-27-2004, 07:40 PM
Nonetheless, I think The Day After Tomorrow will be a good movie worth watching.

bignick
05-27-2004, 07:59 PM
The angle of the dangle is proportional to the heat of the meat.

Admiral Ackbar
05-27-2004, 08:05 PM
The angle of the dangle is proportional to the heat of the meat.

I thought that was inversely proportionaly....or maybe I need to go see a doctor.

snotknocker
05-27-2004, 08:17 PM
I play my GB during commercials

rimsforsale
05-27-2004, 08:43 PM
very easily avoided, tivo everything, and you can simply skip the commercials. aside from that, IMO day after tomo would be a great movie. but its true when i saw the preview in the theaters in Jan. i was so hyped to see this movie.. now the commercials have cheapened the whole exp.

moiety
05-28-2004, 01:36 AM
I mean, Shreck look goods, and I see an ad at least twice a day, but not every five minutes!


Heh, that's right... Shrek is too busy advertising a zillion different products, such as Baskin Robbins sundaes and handsoap, and appearing in specials on all different networks, such as Nick at Night (tonight actually). I actually feel like I've been bombarded with Shrek 2 more than any other movie out or coming out.

defender
05-28-2004, 01:39 AM
lol...just as I start to read this thread a commercial for the movie comes on

maybe it will be good but I bet not THAT good

thatstoobad
05-28-2004, 01:48 AM
i think it's more about the "blockbuster" potential of the movie than the suck value. not to say that the movie won't suck, something tells me it probably will. i just mean that by the time the release of spiderman 2 is only a week away, we'll probably be seeing a commercial for it every 4 minutes and 36 seconds, not to mention the fast food tie ins. personally, i would like to see dogville promoted on taco bell cups, but that's just me.

Cracka
05-28-2004, 02:05 AM
i dunno, but i wanna see that movie..

Scrubking
05-28-2004, 09:55 AM
Actually I think it is the type of hype that determines how good the movie is. The more ridiculous hype in the commercial the more you know it sucks.

The day after tomorrow is going to be a huge stinky floating piece of crap. That movie should be called Deep Impact 2. They probably even took all the tidal wave cg and pasted it in the day before tomorrow anyway.

x0thedeadzone0x
05-28-2004, 10:00 AM
You know what movie looked pretty good? Chronicles of Riddick. I saw maybe two commercials total for that movie, very spaced out. I'm excited to see it, he's evil, he kicks ass, so there must be at least some good in it. at least SOME.
But you know, Day after Tomorrow I haven't seen that many commercials. maybe you're watching all the wrong channels at the wrong time, or i'm just not watching all the right channels? Who knows.
Shrek 2.. eh. I'll wait till it comes out on video. And yeah I noticed that they're sponsoring absolutely everything too moeity.

Scrubking
05-28-2004, 10:04 AM
I've seen a million commercials for Riddick and all the rest of em. Ridick has a ton of ridiculous hype too so it doesn't look too good. The fact that they want to turn Ridick from a murderer into an action hero should be a flag for the suckiness of the movie.

x0thedeadzone0x
05-28-2004, 10:05 AM
Aw man, I didn't see that interpreted in the two commercials I saw. Action hero? Shaq-fu that.

SneakyPenguin
05-28-2004, 10:07 AM
I've seen a million commercials for Riddick and all the rest of em. Ridick has a ton of ridiculous hype too so it doesn't look too good. The fact that they want to turn Ridick from a murderer into an action hero should be a flag for the suckiness of the movie.

No, the fact that Vin Diesal is the star should show how much it will suck.

Squirms
05-28-2004, 10:20 AM
I'll watch Spider-Man 2 this summer, just because I am a huge fan of the comic: Even have a Spider-Man Tattoo. But as far as everything else coming out, I'll just rent them later and spend my money on more games.

Wshakspear
05-28-2004, 10:20 AM
Wait for the Spider-Man 2 blanket...NOW
http://espn.starwave.com/media/mlb/2004/0505/photo/e_spiderbase_hi.jpg

moiety
05-28-2004, 10:22 AM
Well, personally I'm looking forward to Harry Potter PoA and Spiderman 2. They both are looking really good, and those are the only two I will actually pay to see in the theater this summer. 8)

epobirs
05-28-2004, 10:26 AM
This is an example of what I call the 'Wheelchair Blockbuster Effect.' A movie that opens big but doesn't have any legs. This usually means that word of mouth spreading news of the movie's awfulness quickly overpowers advertising hype.
'Day After Tomorrow' is a perfect example. I haven't seen a single enthusiastic review from anyone who has attended a screening except for environmental whackos who think suh gross distortions of science will actually help their cause.


The presence of Shrek on every product is no surprise. It a big movie with nearly universal appeal. Little kids love it even though much of the material is beyond their understanding and adults enjoy that very material. Marketing opportunities like that only come along once in a great while. I mean, what company would want to have their products associated with a disaster flick like 'Day After Tomorrow?' It would be like Princess Cruise Lines doing a promotion with a remake of 'The Poseiden Adventure.'

Opening week grosses are very important to the studios due to how the rentals work. In the first week of a movie's release the studio/distributor collects nearly all of the box offie receipts. Each following week the theater owner get to keep a larger portion of each dollar. So a movie that opens small but does a steady business for several months is great for theaters but not for the studios. Likewise a movie that opens big but quickly fades when word of mouth reveals its true value works out well for the studios but the theater owners take it in the shorts.

The studios anticipation of having a Wheelchair Blockbuster on their hands is often apparent by their reliance on hype to pump up the first week of release. This appears to be the case with 'Day After Tomorrow.' Expect the advertising to drop off sharply after its opening week as the studios accepts its fate.

Wshakspear
05-28-2004, 10:34 AM
Shrek:
M&M;s
Baskin Robins
US Postal Service (?)
Burger King
Frito Lay
HP

Day After TOmmorow:
THE WEATHER CHANNEL

PsyClerk
05-28-2004, 11:00 AM
Remember that when a movie gets big enough, companies will pay the movie studio to get a particular film's licensing rights. The people behind Shrek 2 (Dreamworks?) aren't paying Frito Lay to paste Shrek and Donkey on bags of chips, it's the other way around. Same goes for Star Wars, and probably Spider-Man.

If you're interested, look up movies on Box Office Mojo. It will give you the numbers behind a movie's production budget AND advertising budget.

Note on the revenue breakdown for movies: I thought the revenue was not shared on weekly plan, but more of a monthly plan, ie the studios get a certain cut for the first 30 days, then their cut goes down, then it goes down again after 60 days, etc.

As for the actual movies mentioned...Day After Tomorrow looks to have not quite as much scientific credibility as Armaggedon (and that's saying something). It will suck dead goat balls.

Wshakspear
05-28-2004, 12:09 PM
Hell, i just enjoy the 3-d M&M's talking with Shrek and donkey...made too much sense, really

x0thedeadzone0x
05-28-2004, 12:29 PM
Haha, I was gonna say that next week comes out harry potter, but i was afraid i was gonna get bombarded with flames and absolutely nobody would go besides me. So i'm with you atw moeity. and spiderman 2 looks good.

magilacudy
05-28-2004, 12:40 PM
Shrek:
M&M;s
Baskin Robins
US Postal Service (?)
Burger King
Frito Lay
HP

Day After TOmmorow:
THE WEATHER CHANNEL

I think DaT has tie-ins with the NBA - 'Play Like there's No Tomorrow', if you've seen any playoff games. But besides, that I can't think of any others.

Cracka
05-28-2004, 01:52 PM
i havent gone to see any movies at the theater in my town ever since me and 2 friends got kicked out... DAMN YOU THEATER BITCH!

bignick
05-28-2004, 01:59 PM
Haha, I was gonna say that next week comes out harry potter, but i was afraid i was gonna get bombarded with flames and absolutely nobody would go besides me. So i'm with you atw moeity. and spiderman 2 looks good.

Im a closet harry potter fan too. Its all good.

rimsforsale
06-02-2004, 04:55 AM
i disagree with "epobirs" day after is actually a pretty good movie, now that my girlfriend dragged me to go see it. kind of in remenessence of armageddon but a good movie and worth the money. and the movie proves even in time of crisis, guys will still be horny as animal instints takes over.. haha..

pukemon
06-02-2004, 05:36 AM
damn i don't know what you guys are talking about. i haven't seen any commercials for any of these movies. oh. well maybe cuz i don't watch the evil parent of our children. but yeah, the more advertising something gets, the suckier it is.

cmndrhavok
06-02-2004, 09:44 PM
Shrek is everywhere on merchandise at Kmart.

Tom
06-03-2004, 04:47 PM
You know what movie looked pretty good? Chronicles of Riddick. I saw maybe two commercials total for that movie, very spaced out. I'm excited to see it, he's evil, he kicks ass, so there must be at least some good in it. at least SOME.
Oh hell yes, i have only seen the commercial 3 oor 4 times, and that movie looks like it will kick major ass.