The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - Gen. Discussion & Info

[Brak]

Okay, I got those two. When I try to brew them, it won't give me the option to "Create" (the X button). This is my first time making anything with this alchemy stuff so is there a step I'm missing? I also have all 4 tools for alchemy (I forget the names).

Gotta be an Apprentice in Alchemy for that potion, it seems.

[zewone]

Ah!! I'm forever cursed! hahaha, someone said that a magic shop in the Imperial City sells the potion (of course they forgot the name of the store) :roll:

[dafoomie]

My quest log says:

...In exchange, Teekeus has agreed to write a recommendation for me. (Choroll)

Skingrad Recommendation
Anvil Recommendation
Cheydinhal Recommendation
Bruma Recommendation

Is there a 6th guild hall that I forgot to get a recommendation from?

Plus, the mages guild quest still says I need a recommendation from Choroll, even though it says right there that I have it.

[Brak]

Ah!! I'm forever cursed! hahaha, someone said that a magic shop in the Imperial City sells the potion (of course they forgot the name of the store) :roll:

I think it's the store that's not "Edgar's Discount Spells". I think there are only two magic shops in the town... I think.

[Kuma]

Ok guys, stupid question. I made a Crusader, now joining the Arena, Fighters Guild, and posiibly the Dark Brotherhood would seem like givens. I have moderate magic skills and im about as subtle as a nuclear warhead. Should I attempt to join the Mage and Thieves guilds or would it just be futile?

[Sk8erlink7]

Haha, I'm about 6 hours into the game, and I'm only at Level 2.

I have to say that the first Oblivion gate was kicking my ass, but I finally beat it. I just became a member of the Blades and I'm trying to join the Thieves Guild but I keep getting caught by guards trying to steal the little book.

[Chacrana]

So for Azura Shrine... how do I kill that Will O' Wisp?

[AshesofWake]

wooooooooooo that was an intense quest for getting into the thieves guild

[Technique]

wooooooooooo that was an intense quest for getting into the thieves guild

I just followed the lady that started to run immiedietly. She was about to grab the Diary when I grabbed it before her.

[AshesofWake]

yeah that's pretty much what i did. first time i did it, i was like 5 seconds late, so as she walked out i tried to pick pocket the book from her :rofl:

[VanillaGorilla]

I am 25 hours in, and haven't even gone to Kvatch yet in the main storyline. I am too busy being the champion of the arena, spelunkering caves for loot, and otherwise exploring the world and doing NPC quests.

[Chacrana]

Awesome. I became grand champion of the arena. This game's combat is so fucking awesome. Apart from that I'm just trying to be as evil as I possibly can without getting caught. AKA, murdering, stealing, and doing generally bad stuff without anyone seeing it happen. At first, I thought it was cool to steal horses in the middle of the night. But most recently, I thought it was fun to take that annoying fan you get after becoming champion in the arena to the back of a house and murdering him. Killing a female store owner and stealing her clothes is cool too.

[zewone]

So for Azura Shrine... how do I kill that Will O' Wisp?
I stabbed it. Then it died.. I don't know what you mean.

[Eastsidecracker]

To many pages to go thro, but easy question, just started recently.

So I get out of the sewers, explored a little (framerate bad, but I slept alittle till sunrise and it was perfect) and need a way to store/sell the useless stuff I dont need (Good storage location, such as a house or personal safe, but I only have 74 gold.)

Where do I join guilds/how?

What does the little pic captions mean on weapons menu (coin =value? feather=weight sword=damage heart=the items damage)

And how can I increase the storage quickly, other then just working on strength, and how would I work on that?

[flashburn]

So for Azura Shrine... how do I kill that Will O' Wisp?
You need to use Silver or better weapons to kill them.

[mmn]

To many pages to go thro, but easy question, just started recently.

So I get out of the sewers, explored a little (framerate bad, but I slept alittle till sunrise and it was perfect) and need a way to store/sell the useless stuff I dont need (Good storage location, such as a house or personal safe, but I only have 74 gold.)

Where do I join guilds/how?

What does the little pic captions mean on weapons menu (coin =value? feather=weight sword=damage heart=the items damage)

And how can I increase the storage quickly, other then just working on strength, and how would I work on that?

To join a guild, you have to find it in the local cities around the world. Well, I know that's the case for the Mage's Guild and Fighter's Guild - I'm pretty sure the Thieves Guild comes to you after you steal something.

Yeah, you got it right for what the little pictures on the weapons menu actually mean.

And though I'm not 100% sure of this, I believe the best/easiest way to store items is to buy a house and drop all your stuff there.

[Brak]

There's a haunted house you can buy in Anvil for 5,000 gold. It even comes with a quest.

[Eastsidecracker]

I only have 73 gold. How can I get more and, if I can, sell my stuff?

[SteveMcQ]

I only have 73 gold. How can I get more and, if I can, sell my stuff?I suggest doing the Arena. I did that and not much else in the rest of the story or side stuff and I'm up to 5000 now. Not a lot, but something to get you going anyway.

[Chacrana]

Ditto on that. I think most of my money so far has come from the arena and it's great for levelling up too.

[Eastsidecracker]

Found out how to barter and persuade (dpad when about to talk to a npc).

What can I and do you do with persuading?

How do you pick locks with more then one lock thingy (to tumble up)?

[rabbitt]

What can I and do you do with persuading?

How do you pick locks with more then one lock thingy (to tumble up)?


Sometimes, you'll need to get info out of someone not-so-willing. This is where persuasion comes in.

About the multiple tumblers... You just press the joystick right to move on to the next tumbler. Is that what you mean?

[zewone]

Anyone having trouble picking locks. I highly recommend doing the Skeleton Key quest. Pretty easy, just got to fight some rat and bears. The Skeleton Key is actually an unbreakable lockpick that adds +40 to your security. Just got it myself.

[Arikado]

Anyone having trouble picking locks. I highly recommend doing the Skeleton Key quest. Pretty easy, just got to fight some rat and bears. The Skeleton Key is actually an unbreakable lockpick that adds +40 to your security. Just got it myself.

Holy shit. Where and how do you get the quest?

[Brak]

Anyone having trouble picking locks. I highly recommend doing the Skeleton Key quest. Pretty easy, just got to fight some rat and bears. The Skeleton Key is actually an unbreakable lockpick that adds +40 to your security. Just got it myself.

I'm gonna have to do that.

I was going to resort to the lock picking spells, myself. I have the "Unlock Very Easy Locks" and "Unlock Easy Locks" spells. I'll go for that pick, instead.

[A7las]

Holy shit. Where and how do you get the quest?

I second that. I really didn't want to get the guide so I wouldn't do quests in an unnatural way, meaning that I wouldn't go looking for certain quests. However, that skeleton key would be incredibly helpful.

[Eastsidecracker]

Sometimes, you'll need to get info out of someone not-so-willing. This is where persuasion comes in.

About the multiple tumblers... You just press the joystick right to move on to the next tumbler. Is that what you mean?

Every time I bump the tumbler up it just falls back down. Dont know what to do. Maybe I need more skill, need more info on that quest^^.

Nevermind, hit A at the top of the correct sequence.

[zewone]

Holy shit. Where and how do you get the quest?
Talk to a dark elf lady in the Leyawin Mage's Guild. Ask her about "Daedra Shrines". She'll mark "Nocturnal's Shrine" on your map. Activate the shrine and I'm sure you guys can get it from there.

You have to be level 10 to do the quest though.

[SteveMcQ]

You have to be level 10 to do the quest though.Well, maybe in 3 months or so judging from my current pace.

I'm still not getting the persuasion thing, specifically how to get out of it. I get to a point where it's in the 70s or 80s, but I guess I can't just stop in the middle. It always ends up I have to click on wedges they don't like and it drops down to where it originally was and I just stop. More practice I guess.

[pimpinc333]

Well, maybe in 3 months or so judging from my current pace.

I'm still not getting the persuasion thing, specifically how to get out of it. I get to a point where it's in the 70s or 80s, but I guess I can't just stop in the middle. It always ends up I have to click on wedges they don't like and it drops down to where it originally was and I just stop. More practice I guess.

This is what I do. Every NPC likes 2 of the 4 choices. I go and hit all of them to see which ones go up and down. Once I see which they like I try to get the Big Yellow Thing on it, the ones they dont like I try to go for the small yellow or no yellow. You do have to do it alll 4 times though like you said you cant stop in the middle.

[zewone]

You can tell which ones they like by their facial expressions.

[pimpinc333]

You can tell which ones they like by their facial expressions.

Or do the simple math and see if the number goes up or down. :)

Thanks Zewone for the Skeleton quest. I'm gonna check this out later but i have gotten pretty good at picking locks usually pick any kin of lock within 4 Picks.

[pimpinc333]

Wow The game has just gotten better. I never knew if you hold the Left Trigger while aiming at something you could move or manipulate it. Very cool stuff.

[menikmati]

I have RPG ADD, not sure whether or not to pick this up, got beatmania and BF2:MC on the mind.

[Chacrana]

Well BF2 MC isn't that great... I'd definitely opt for this instead. Plus, you hack shit up like no other in Oblivion. Even people with ADD (even though it's not real - just some shit doctors make up) would like this.

[SteveMcQ]

Yeah, I just figured the persuasion thing. Didn't understand the whole wedges and yellow icons before, but now it makes sense. I just "didn't get it" before, but yeah, thanks for the help.

Murdered my first person earlier, now I'm wondering whether to sleep and see what the Dark Brotherhood is about or to reload a previous save. Been playing on the good side so far.

[Scorch]

Wow The game has just gotten better. I never knew if you hold the Left Trigger while aiming at something you could move or manipulate it. Very cool stuff.

You mean the left shoulder button? That's how you move objects/drag bodies.

Even people with ADD (even though it's not real - just some shit doctors make up) would like this.

Oh, right. That's why there's been a ton of studies and medicine to help out with it - it's just a big joke and the pills are all placebos, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention-deficit_hyperactivity_disorder

Educate yourself.

[pimpinc333]

You mean the left shoulder button? That's how you move objects/drag bodies.



Oh, right. That's why there's been a ton of studies and medicine to help out with it - it's just a big joke and the pills are all placebos, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention-deficit_hyperactivity_disorder

Educate yourself.

Yea the left Button I never knew about it before. Good Stuff. I'm at the first Oblivion gate and it great dragging people into the Lava.

[Tha Xecutioner]

Speaking of Oblivion Gates..I beat all 16 of them and nothing happened afterwards. boooo!

[zewone]

Theres only 16? The quest I'm on they pop up every 30 feet. Annoying as hell having to run from 8 beasts every 20 seconds.

[Technique]

I've used this trick to open all of the really hard locks.

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=291211&hl=

[Eastsidecracker]

Ok, im doing the sidequest in imperial city about the guys cheap stuff in his shop, so I folowed the other guy home, broke in, and every time around this area a guard will come in and put me in jail (or loose if I choose to fight back), is that normal for the guy to arrest me?
Then, in jail, whenever I go to waste the prison time on the bed thing, it just freezes. Anybody else.
Nevermind, after about 10 retrys, I decided to just load it in the cell, and delete the hdcache.

^^^Thanks for the link, just did the same thing into the prison armory.

[2Fast]

I just use the oldest trick in the book to open pesty locks: save right before I open the lock, and keep re-loading the save until I get the damn thing open.

[Tha Xecutioner]

Theres only 16? The quest I'm on they pop up every 30 feet. Annoying as hell having to run from 8 beasts every 20 seconds. I'm pretty sure..some loading screen talks about 16 Princes of Oblivion each having their own gate. But there is an achievement that talks about some "Great Gate" ...hmmm...


Oh, and is it bad that I sorta lost Martin and Jauffre on the way to that temple in Bruma? Does this mean if I want to do the main quest than I either have to search about 1/4 the entire game for them/start a new character and play strictly the main quest?

[MysticMike01]

Speaking of Oblivion Gates..I beat all 16 of them and nothing happened afterwards. boooo!

Did you steal back the Amulet of Kings and do that whole thing and give it back to the rightful heir?

[Tha Xecutioner]

Did you steal back the Amulet of Kings and do that whole thing and give it back to the rightful heir?

Yeah, did all that and went back to the Priory and kicked butt and got on my horse and lost Martin and Jauffre somewhere between there and the temple in Bruma.

[SteveMcQ]

One thing I wish they'd change in this game: The characters popping out of nowhere. Fuck it scares the hell out of me sometimes.

Left the castle in Branvil (sp?) when the queen there asked me to find and talk to someone. Loading screen to the town, a brief POV at the level then bam, the motherfucker ends up behind me and starts talking. Shit.

The worst one so far was with the Dark Brotherhood guy. Murdered a guy for the first time and I just randomly went around the game world for a few hours not sleeping. Jumped to bed at an inn I saw, load screen, bam...the fucker appears, eerie voice and all.

One question: Anyone have a list of the "best weapons", how much they cost and where I can find them? I like to keep a mental note of where I need to go back to get them later when I get enough money. Mainly looking for a nice bow to upgrade. I use a dagger and a Claymore (willing to switch to longsword/shield combo though) as well.

[mmn]

Ok here's where I'm at :

About to hit level 9 with 14 hours of playtime down. I think choosing a Mage/Magic Guy was a wise choice because I'm leveling up like a goddamn machine. All I'm doing during fights is using cold touch/shock touch, heal spells, shield spells, bound armor spells, and conjuring spells (mostly zombies and skeletons as a distraction).

But while I'm happy with the pace I'm leveling I'm still REALLY irritated at the lack of gold. I'm getting better weapons now (joining the Mage's Guild and the Blades helped) but other than the Arena, I have no idea how to truly get a decent amount of gold. I'd like to buy a house but I can't imagine ever getting enough gold to do it.

Still, I'm having fun. Concentrating on the Mage's Guild quests and the Arena right now. One warning though, if you do that quest where you have to go into the guy's dreams with the dreamworld amulet, don't try going to sleep while wearing bounded armor. It'll lock the game up. Happened to me three times before I figured it out.

What level are you guys at and in how much playtime?

[dafoomie]

I resolved my mages guild problem.

What are you guys doing for cash? I barely have 2 grand and I'm level 10.

[AshesofWake]

fight in the arena, gold up the ass

[The Dord]

Any place that is renting this game right now? Kinda short on dough and want to see how it plays before I buy :)

[mmn]

I resolved my mages guild problem.

What are you guys doing for cash? I barely have 2 grand and I'm level 10.

Same here. Just hit level 10 and I'll have around 2000 gold when I sell the crap I have on me. I know the Arena will give me some gold, but someone on here said they had 30,000 gold. I'd like to know how that's possible without stealing everything in every town and selling it.

Edit : Well I can see that by completing some side quests you can get items which you can sell for some good gold amounts. I just got a Spelldrinker Amulet and a Ring of Eidolon's Edge that both can be sold for 2,000 + gold. Still don't get the whole 30,000 gold thing, though. :)

[MaskedPlague]

I have no gold, but I am loving this game.

[Eastsidecracker]

Im a level 2 with 1200 gold. All I do is just find stuff and resell, then I betted on the arena once for 25 (try 100, then if you dont win just reload, wil try that later) then I won once in the arena, and the rest is just from exploring, stealing and pickpocketing.

BTW, I was playing in waterfront, my 360 then just became quiet, the dvd stoped. Then a little screen poped up and said it cant read it, clean the disk and restart the xbox. The disk is perfect condition, must be my 360.

[Admiral Ackbar]

Same here. Just hit level 10 and I'll have around 2000 gold when I sell the crap I have on me. I know the Arena will give me some gold, but someone on here said they had 30,000 gold. I'd like to know how that's possible without stealing everything in every town and selling it.

Edit : Well I can see that by completing some side quests you can get items which you can sell for some good gold amounts. I just got a Spelldrinker Amulet and a Ring of Eidolon's Edge that both can be sold for 2,000 + gold. Still don't get the whole 30,000 gold thing, though. :)

I started the game on the PC and the first thing I did was hit the elven ruin across the river. In there I found about 20 magic gems worth 50 and a major magic gem worth 1000. So I haven't hit a city yet but I'm walking around with several thousands worth in gold. I'm only going to sell some of it though.
I know the gems can be used to recharge magic items so i want to hold on to a few.

Here's the trick to leveling. Pick 7 major that you will use a lot. For example, here's the class I made. It's made for balance.

Race - Breton
Sign - Lady
Class - Hunter
Main Stats: Str, Will
Focus: Stealth
Major skills: Heavy Armor, Block, Bladed Weapons, Security, Restoration, Destruction, Speechcraft.

If you want to be a power leveler you want to take skills you can self train. I kinda balanced it. The three weapon feats will go up when I get in combat, and they've been going at a pretty good pace. The two spell skills I can traiun on my own and I'm using them a lot.

Speech and security somewhat go against being good skills for leveling. But because I took stealth as my focus they'll go up faster than other skills. Also, I can use speech on any people I come across. The only one I cna't do as will is security. I gotta wait till I find locked chests and such. So it might have been a bad choice. It might have been smarter to go with steallth, which I use constantly.

As for stats, it seems like it's dependent on your secondary skills. For example, your main stats of you class can always go up at a min of +2. Your secondary stats always go up at +1 min. But if you raise a minor skill that is tied to a stat between levels, you get a bonus.

For example, after level 3 but before lvl 4, say I raise my athletics and light armor. Those are tied to endurance. When I hit lvl 4 normally my plus to endurance would normally be 1. But because those two minor skills tied to endurance were raised, my plus may be +2, 3 or even 4. So if you have a stat you want to raise in particular. focus on minor skills tied to that stat in between levels.

[Brak]

Spelunking caves and raiding forts is a sure fire way to get some gold and weapons, gems and other garbage to sell for high prices.

Once you've raided a cave, tomb or fort, you can return and there'll be more assholes to fight down there. Not sure what the timeframe of that is, though. I think caves stay empty, actually. I've returned to numerous forts and they've had tougher baddies in them.

[rabbitt]

Does anyone know who is selling the house in Bravil? It's the building next to the archer's shop. I need somewhere to store my stolen goods :D

[Technique]

There is actually I side quest with that gem you find in the elven ruins just across from the sewers. The one that is worth 1000 gold. If you sell it to the stone seller in the Imperial City, a random servant will come out of no where and tell you his master want to meet you about the stones. Well, it turns out there are more of those 1000 gold stone and he wants you to get all of them for him.

[Eastsidecracker]

Does anyone know who is selling the house in Bravil? It's the building next to the archer's shop. I need somewhere to store my stolen goods :D
Im wondering the same thing, about any house. Whats the point of the items that are worth nothing? Do you decorate your house with them? What can you do when you get the house?

For now, I just store all my stuff in a box next to the prision, its all still there, so that works for storage. Dont understand the point of the 0gold items.

And where can I buy some lockpicks? Ran out.

[Brak]

I took the curse off of the haunted manor I bought in Anvil (fairly tough battle)... Prior to, I stored some of my expensive weapons and staffs in a drawer in the manor. After I finished the quest, the haunted manor looked like new again... and all of the shit I stored vanished with the renovation.

Thakfully I saved. Gonna do it all over again after work...

[Brak]

Has anyone else found the fort with - literally - 10 or 12 Necromancers in it? Holy fuck, was that tough.

It was worth it, though. One of the Necromancers had enchanted shoes that allow you to walk on water for as long as you wear them. The other Necromancer's had a ton of enchanted staffs and even some glass weapons.

I'll try to find the location when I go home. It's a really tough fort, though. I think I did well with a mixture of sneaking / sneak attacks, destruction magic and the staffs I took from ones I killed -- along with my own blades.

[Brak]

Also, and I don't mean to post three times in a row --

I found an Easter Egg in the game: the character M'aiq the Liar, from Morrowind.

He's almost impossible to find, because he runs (and fast) across the entire world. You'd literally need to be in the right place and the right time to find him. I spoke to him, and all he had to say was something like, "I don't see the point of burning a building down." And he ran off. Weird.

[mmn]

I started the game on the PC and the first thing I did was hit the elven ruin across the river. In there I found about 20 magic gems worth 50 and a major magic gem worth 1000. So I haven't hit a city yet but I'm walking around with several thousands worth in gold. I'm only going to sell some of it though.
I know the gems can be used to recharge magic items so i want to hold on to a few.

Yeah, that's a good cave.

I'm doing much better on gold now - mostly because there's a mission for the Mage Guild to go and take out some vampires and some vampire hunters. Well the vampires drop some really NICE stuff when you kill them. I managed to go from about 3 thousand gold to 13 thousand gold just from that mission and finishing off the Arena challenges.

[Trakan]

Also, and I don't mean to post three times in a row --

I found an Easter Egg in the game: the character M'aiq the Liar, from Morrowind.

He's almost impossible to find, because he runs (and fast) across the entire world. You'd literally need to be in the right place and the right time to find him. I spoke to him, and all he had to say was something like, "I don't see the point of burning a building down." And he ran off. Weird.

I ran into him too, but I can't remember what he said or where I ran into him. I remember the name, though.

Hey Brak, what was that quest that activates when you read the wanted poster? I looked like 5 pages back and didn't see anything, but maybe I missed it. I think you were the one who posted about it.

[Brak]

I ran into him too, but I can't remember what he said or where I ran into him. I remember the name, though.

Hey Brak, what was that quest that activates when you read the wanted poster? I looked like 5 pages back and didn't see anything, but maybe I missed it. I think you were the one who posted about it.

After you read the wanted poster, you'll be able to ask people about it. Ask a beggar about it (Gray Fox, or whatever the Hell his name is -- I can't remember). You might not be able to ask them about it, so persuade them so they like you 70 points. You can do this by bribing them, or just persuading them. Once it reaches 70, you can ask them about the poster and the Fox guy -- they'll give you info on who to see to join the Thieves Guild (promting a quest).

[Pure Apathy]

I took the curse off of the haunted manor I bought in Anvil (fairly tough battle)... Prior to, I stored some of my expensive weapons and staffs in a drawer in the manor. After I finished the quest, the haunted manor looked like new again... and all of the shit I stored vanished with the renovation.

Thakfully I saved. Gonna do it all over again after work...

I bought that house last night and now I have to find the guy I bought it from. Those ghosts were really pissing me off... but looks like a nice house for only 5k.

[TC]

How many Vampires we got here now? I caught it really and didn't understand that within three days I had to get it cured and now am faced with whether or not to do all the crap to get the cure. Any thoughts?

[Moxio]

How are some of you guys level 10 and shit? I've put in about 10 hours and I'm only level 2! :(

[Chacrana]

I just finished that quest with the painted trolls... god damn those guys were a pain in the ass. The item you get is kinda shit, but at least it brings in a lot of money.

[Eastsidecracker]

How are some of you guys level 10 and shit? I've put in about 10 hours and I'm only level 2! :(
Dont forget to go to sleep, the little arrow will point up on the hud indicating you can level up. I can, I just dont want to right now.

What stats do anyone recommend to level up, out of the 3?

[Superstar]

How many Vampires we got here now? I caught it really and didn't understand that within three days I had to get it cured and now am faced with whether or not to do all the crap to get the cure. Any thoughts?

I am a vampire now, by a mistake. It's really annoying sometimes. I just don't want to do the quest to cure it. I guess i'm too lazy.

[jam3582]

How are some of you guys level 10 and shit? I've put in about 10 hours and I'm only level 2! :(

well I have just been using random magic spells on myself or a summoning spell while im walking around . If I am correct you level up when one of ur main skills go up 10 times . hmmm I have been doing conjunction magic kept summoning a skeleton , the other spells I used were dispel magic and another protective magic that boost ur defense .

It depends on your skill set that you use often thats all . I think you would level up easier with a magic user than say a theif . I would experiment and just use a skill and then check your stats to see if it goes up or not

[pimpinc333]

How are some of you guys level 10 and shit? I've put in about 10 hours and I'm only level 2! :(

See I'm not sure if your just walking around and checking the game out or not but maybe when you picked your class or made a custom class you choose the wrong Major Skills that you might not use. Your Dude will only level when 10 major skills gain points ( basically when each Major Skill mini levels up). As you can see if you don't use the skills your dude of course will not level. Good Luck Bro and remeber to use all of your major skills.

well I have just been using random magic spells on myself or a summoning spell while im walking around . If I am correct you level up when one of ur main skills go up 10 times . hmmm I have been doing conjunction magic kept summoning a skeleton , the other spells I used were dispel magic and another protective magic that boost ur defense .

It depends on your skill set that you use often thats all . I think you would level up easier with a magic user than say a theif . I would experiment and just use a skill and then check your stats to see if it goes up or not

I'm a Thief and I level just fine. At level 19 currently. I say its very easy to level just go raid some forts and shit. You'll gain Stat Boosts which will make you level, weapons, armor, and gold. Can't go wrong with raiding a fort or cave.

[SteveMcQ]

Does anyone know who is selling the house in Bravil? It's the building next to the archer's shop. I need somewhere to store my stolen goods :DNot familiar with the city names yet, but is that the one with the log cabin houses and the guilds on the second level? It's just north of the Imperial City I think.

If that's the one I'm thinking of, then you have to go talk to the queen or something in the castle up the stairs. She'll be up on the throne, but if she's not in there then just leave the castle then come back in. She'll say you have to tallk to one of her assistants first and he should be right outside once you leave the castle. Then you can go back inside the castle, she'll give you a quest and you'll finally have the option to buy the house for 10,000 gold.

[Javery]

Is there any kind of Xbox Live aspect to this game? Sorry if it has been answered but I didn't read this huge thread...

[pimpinc333]

Is there any kind of Xbox Live aspect to this game? Sorry if it has been answered but I didn't read this huge thread...

None besides the Live Aware that all 360 games have.

[TC]

I am a vampire now, by a mistake. It's really annoying sometimes. I just don't want to do the quest to cure it. I guess i'm too lazy.

Yeah I did a bit of research on the cure quest and it seems like a total pain in the ass. Carrot in front of the horse.

[h2dk]

quck question...I have noticed my luck is at 12 and should be around 50. All the manual indicated is that it is damaged, is there a way to fix it easily?

[Technique]

quck question...I have noticed my luck is at 12 and should be around 50. All the manual indicated is that it is damaged, is there a way to fix it easily?

Go to a church or chapel and press on one of the restoration thingies (sorry I don't know the name). That should work.

[Eastsidecracker]

Is there any kind of Xbox Live aspect to this game? Sorry if it has been answered but I didn't read this huge thread...
Also a dc area, cant wait to see what they have there.

[Chacrana]

Err... where exactly do I obtain 5 grand soul gems?

[rabbitt]

Err... where exactly do I obtain 5 grand soul gems?

Perhaps a Mage's guild has them?

[rabbitt]

Thanks for the info Steve.

Oh, do you guys have any tips for haggling? It seems like I can't get the re-selling price past 59% for the Bruma fence.

[Brak]

Thanks for the info Steve.

Oh, do you guys have any tips for haggling? It seems like I can't get the re-selling price past 59% for the Bruma fence.

You have to be charming.

Persuade 'em, bribe 'em or use some of the charm spells and potions.

[Ahadi]

Alright, well I just closed my first Oblivion Gate 7 hours into the game and still a level 1 character. Anyone wanna fill me on how I could become a level 2? Level 1 is sweet, but why not double my pleasure? Also, I hid a ton of stuff in a barrel knowing I was about to be arrested(big fine, couldnt pay it, didnt want to run any ore...) well my question is, since the stuff that was in the barrel disappeared(all I want back is an armor set) any chance of me retriving my stuff again?

[VanillaGorilla]

I don't think you can hide items in barrels. I do know that if you just drop stuff someplace, it's probably gonna stay there. I dropped a couple red robe things in front of the Marketplace in the Imperial City, and 32 game hours and 90 some game days later, they still sit there.

[TC]

Credit to Viper87227 at Gamefaqs.com

"I have been working on this for a while now. I submitted it to GameFAQ's, but it needs to be reviewed for manual conversion I guess. I figured I would post if up here since alot are asking. There are spoilers, so read on at your own risk. This guide is complete however, offering full direcions start to finish, including tracking down hard to find incgreadiants. I will split it into two posts, it is to long for one. Enjoy!

****SPOILER ALERT*****

The Complete Guide to the Vampire Cure

Prerequisit: Before starting off on your journey to curing your vamiprism, I highly reccomend you join the Theives guild. You will be doing alot of sneaking, lockpicking, pickpocketing, and stealing. You will level up in the Theivies guild which will make this easier, and most importantly, you will have access to all the lockpicks you could want via fences. They have 101 to sell you each day, and your going to need them. Also, you can clear your bounties in the theives guild for cheap, and not loose your stolen goods. Since your going to risk getting caught alot, this will come in handy.



Quest - A Cure for Vampires

There are a number of ways to iniate this quest. Here is how I did it: I went to Cheydinhal's Chapel of Arkay, though any chapel should do. Talk to someone in there about a cure. They will start you on the quest.



The first step in the quest is to talk to Raminus Polus about a cure. You can find him in the Arcane University located in Impereal City. He will tell you a bit about it, and refer you to Count Hassildor. You can find him in Skingrad. Talk to his stuard, then eventually he will talk to you. He will tell you about how he and his wife are vampires, and while he lives with it, she could not, and went into a coma. He needs the cure to get her out. He then tells you about witches long ago who could do it, and about one of them which may still be alive.



You can find the witch along the Corbolo river, which is east of the Impereal City. Here is where the fun begins. Before she will help you, you have to help her. She requests you bring her five empty grand soul gems. These are tough to find, and this is where your Thieves guild work is going to come in handy. Before working on this, go get some lockpicks from your fence.

Gem One: This is an easy one. Go to the Impereal City Market District. Find the Mystique shop. He has one gem for sale. Four to go.

Gem's Two - Four: Your lockpicking skills better be up to snuff now. Head to Arcane Univerity. Best to go at night, you will be theifing. Go inside, and on the first floor there is a chest with three Gems inside. All are Grand gems, but I believe two of them are not empty. Take them all wayways. Its a level 5 lock, so your going to have to work at it, but its worth the effort. Make sure no one sees you. Once you get it open, take them all.

Gem Five: Head to the Chorral Mage's Guild. Inside, there is a staircase, and display cases to the left and right. The one to the right looks tempting, three gems inside. None are grand though, save your picks. The one the left has one though. It's another level 5 lock, so good luck to you. Once you get this, you have five, but two probably aren't empty. No matter, the hard part should be over.

Gem Six: Head to the Bruma Mage's Guild now. Walk straight in and slightly to the left into their little shop. If the shopkeep isn't there, wait for her. When she comes back, barter with her. She's got an empty gem. If you don't have money, you can try to pickpocket it off her, but I found it easier to just buy it.

Gem Seven: Head to the Cheydenhol Guild now. To your left and down the stairs, talk to the shopkeep. Same as before, buy it, or try and pick it from her if you wish. Congradulations, you now have your five emptys, and your probably a pro at lockpicking by now.

Go visit Melisande again now. She will take your gems, but you aren't done yet. She says she can probably make the cure, but you need a slew of ingreadiants. She asks you to find six Garlic Cloves, five Nightshade Leaves, 2 BloodGrass Shoots, The Blood of an Argonian, and the dust of the vampire Hindaril. Collect the first three items first. Much like the gems, this can be quite tedious. Below you will find locations for all the ingreadiants you need.

Garlic Cloves: These are fairly easy to find. Many Alchemy shops, Inns, and Mages Guilds have them. Just work your way from shop to shop until you have six. I know that the Alchemy shop in the Impeareal City has one. I also found two in an Inn in Chorral, and they restock every few days. This should not be to hard.

Nightshade: This proved to be the hardest. First, head to Impereal City, to the same Alchemy shop you got your Garlic. She should have two. After a few days, she will restock one more. After that, she will have no more. That gives you three. A fourth one can be found from the shopkeep in the Corral Mages Guild. Go purcahse that. That leaves one more, or two if you do not feel like waiting a few days for the Impereal City shop to restock. For these you will be hearding to Cheydinhal. Quick travel to the west gate, and then exit the city through the west gate. Turn to your left and follow the cities wall until it ends. Now look to your left, you should see a large right with a tree to the right of it. Next to that tree, you will find a Nightshade plant. To your left, there is a lake, and you should see some old pillars across the lake. Swim across to them. Now face South, and follow the edge of the lake until you come to a tree with small rocks on either side. You will find a couple different plants up against the tree, one of which will be Nightshade.

BloodGrass: This is the easiest part of your quest. The Alchemy shop in Impereal City has four, so buy two of them, and your done. If you are feeling like that was to easy, this stuff is all over Oblivion. Enter a gate and grab some. Your choice.

Blood of an Argonian: Melisande gives you a special dagger or this. You don' need to kill them, just give thema good stab and hide so the gaurds don't nab you. For those of you who don't know, an Argonian is the lizard looking people.

Hindaril's Vampire Dust: If you are at a decent level by now, this should be a breeze. At level 5, this was a cakewalk. Go to the location on your map. It is pretty straightforwared navigating your way there. Once inside the cavern, you will have a few things to pick off before you get to your vampire. I ran into a few rats, a few skeltons, and two lesser vampires before I got to him. I made short work of them all. Hindaril was the easiest of them all though. He did not use a weapon at all, he tried to kill me with his fists. I made short work of him. Maybe I just got lucky, but this was far from difficult.



So, you now have everything. Take it all back to Melisandre. She will tell you she can prepare the cure, and to come back in 24 hours. This is it. Go enjoy your last night as a Vampire. Feast on everyone you can get your bloody hands on. Then go take a nap. The next day, pay your friend a visit again. The cure will be done. Feel free to drink it. You are now officially cured, but your quest isn't over. Remember the count? Head back to Skingrad and pay him a visit. You will be taken to the place where his wife rests. Melisandre will be there also. After a bit of dialouge, he gives her the cure, but it kills her. He requests you give him 24 hours to greive. Go back into the Count's Mansion and just wait for 24 hours. Same as before, talk to the Count. He will thank for you putting his wife at ease, and reward you with 500 gold. The quest is now officially complete. Congradulations!"

[Richlough]

Can someone tell me where the guardhouse is in kavatch ?
:dunce:I f'ed around and didn't follow the guy who was supposed to lead me .:dunce:

A BIG thanks in advance .:)

[dafoomie]

This game has frozen on me 4 times now... Anyone else have this happen?

[Richlough]

I froze once.
My freeze up was associated with the X guide button .

[TC]

I froze once.
My freeze up was associated with the X guide button .

Exact same situation for me.

[Brak]

The only problem I've had is that the third-person camera fucked up. It followed extremely close behind my character, and I couldn't rotate the camera -- it controlled much like first person. It was fucked up, even when I saved and loaded the file.

I had to load a previous save in order for it to be fixed.

[Technique]

So, how do I tell if I have the vampire disease. I want to cure it before I have to do that quest. Also, what does the icon to the right of the compass mean?

[mmn]

This game has frozen on me 4 times now... Anyone else have this happen?

Yes - its frozen on me at least 3 times. But thankfully it didn't mess me up too badly.

Err... where exactly do I obtain 5 grand soul gems?

Join the Mage's Guild. When you go around trying to get recommendations from them you'll find Grand Soulgems everywhere in the local Mage Guild chapters.

How are some of you guys level 10 and shit? I've put in about 10 hours and I'm only level 2! :(

You're not using your major skills enough. For example, I'm a Mage, so during battles all I really do is use magic. I'm level 15 now with 20 hours put into the game and I keep leveling at a pretty quick pace. If you put stealth, for example, as one of your major skills and you aren't using stealth, well, it won't help at all.


I bought that house last night and now I have to find the guy I bought it from. Those ghosts were really pissing me off... but looks like a nice house for only 5k.

There's a house you can buy in the Imperial City on the Waterfront for only 2 thou. That's where my shack is.

[Eastsidecracker]

Also, what does the icon to the right of the compass mean?
The arrow up? = you can level up.

I need any place to buy a house and store items in, I have about 4000 gold. But I havent progressed thro any main quests. +instructions on how to buy, since Ive seen some but cant buy any.

House info^^ thanks mmn. What can you do in your house?

[Richlough]

Kavatch guardtower location ? Anyone?

[mmn]

The arrow up? = you can level up.

I need any place to buy a house and store items in, I have about 4000 gold. But I havent progressed thro any main quests. +instructions on how to buy, since Ive seen some but cant buy any.

House info^^ thanks mmn. What can you do in your house?

In your house you start with a table and a bed, that's all. All I bought were some storage bins (a chest and two dressers) and some wall hangings. I store stuff there (mostly ingredients and things to sell later) and level up there or waste time there if a mission requires me to "come back" at a later time.

I think you can buy the house for 2 thousand from one of the stores in the Imperial Marketplace. But I was also already Arena Grand Champion before I went to buy a house, so maybe that's why they sold it to me. Not quite sure.

[Technique]

Crap, I got vampire disease. I drank a cure disease potion and nothing happend, maybe I have sleep? Don't you have 3 days to cure it? Also, whenever I got to a chapel and press on the altars it insults me saying I am a thief or something. Can I change that?

[Scorch]

Only problem i've had is falling in holes where the ground doesn't meet the building or something and getting stuck.. had to reload a past save

[zewone]

Also, whenever I got to a chapel and press on the altars it insults me saying I am a thief or something. Can I change that?
You have to build up your fame and make it higher than your infamy. You can check both stats on the status page with all the info of things you've done.

[dafoomie]

I'm fighting this "Dread Zombie" in one of my quests, I can't seem to damage him, even with a silver weapon and magic. Is there any way to kill this, or do I just have to run past it? Its become a nice way to train my blade and destruction skills since its slow enough that I can dodge its attacks easily, and since my blade and spells hit him but he never dies. Doesn't seem to take any damage at all.

Its the Mages Guild quest, the first one Travan sends you on, where the battlemages are ambushed at the necromancer's base.

[VanillaGorilla]

I must have gotten a really quality made 360, because it hasn't freezed up once during anything, ever. And I am always using the guide button during Oblivion, and it's never overheated or freezed or anything.

[momadaboo]

Man, this game is great. From what I've played it is easily one of the greatest games ever.

[Eastsidecracker]

In your house you start with a table and a bed, that's all. All I bought were some storage bins (a chest and two dressers) and some wall hangings. I store stuff there (mostly ingredients and things to sell later) and level up there or waste time there if a mission requires me to "come back" at a later time.

I think you can buy the house for 2 thousand from one of the stores in the Imperial Marketplace. But I was also already Arena Grand Champion before I went to buy a house, so maybe that's why they sold it to me. Not quite sure.
No need, as long as you have 2000, You go to the Market District, then in the Office of Imperial Commerce, and persuade the lady to know you and sell the house.

Should bundle this info up into a post for reference.

Vanilla, do you notice a drop in framrate every now an then, like jumping, or viewing lit areas? Happens all the time, but its not bad. When I first got out of the sewer fps was probably single digits, just waited a couple of hours for sunrise and it was better.
I also got a unreadable disk error, and several freezes on a quest in jail as I attempted to sleep the time away.

[SteveMcQ]

Guilds

If you were wondering how to join a guild, you've come to the right place! This means you, Thieves Guild hopefuls!

Mages Guild: Mages can join in any town and begin gathering recommendations. Once all recommendations are earned one can enter the Arcane University in the Imperial City, home of enchanters and powerful trainers.

Fighters Guild: Although there are chapters in every town, seek entrance to this guild in Anvil, Chorrol, or Cheydinhal.

Thieves Guild: There are no chapters to find, but rather several alternative means of gaining admission. The simplest is to read the wanted posters of Gray Fox, then butter up a peasant (persuasion/bribes/charm) and ask about this notorious thief.

The Arena: Easy, it's right there on the map, in the heart of Imperial City. Go down into the Bloodworks sometime during the day and talk to Owyn.

Dark Brotherhood: You don't find them, they'll find you. Considering the nature of this sinister cult, you might pique their interest in you by committing a murder in cold blood. And I always feel a bit sleepy after a senseless killing, don't you?

Fight Club: Sorry, I can't talk about Fight Club.




Houses

You, yes you, can buy your very own house in any of the major cities of Cyrodiil! Most of the time, you'll have to butter up the person selling the house before they're willing to offer it to you. Prices, however, are non-negotiable. Here's the nitty gritty of it:

Imperial City: The Waterfront Shack costs 2,000 gold. Talk to Venicia Melissaeia at the Office of Imperial Commerce in the Market District.

Bravil: The House for Sale costs 4,000 gold. Talk to Count Regulus Terentius in the Castle Bravil Great Hall.

Anvil: The Benirus Manor costs 5,000 gold. Talk to Velwyn Benirus at The Count's Arms and complete his quest.

Leyawiin: The House for Sale costs 7,000 gold. Talk to Count Marius Caro in the Castle Leyawiin County Hall.

Bruma: The House for Sale costs 10,000 gold. Talk to Countess Narina Carvain in the Great Hall at Castle Bruma.

Cheydinhal: The House for Sale costs 15,000 gold. Talk to Count Andel Indarys in the Cheydinhal Castle County Hall.

Chorrol: Arborwatch mansion costs 20,000 gold. Talk to Countess Arriana Volga in the Great Hall at Castle Chorrol.

Skingrad: Rosethorn Hall costs 25,000 gold (requires 15 Fame). Talk to Shum gro-Yarug in the Castle Skingrad County Hall.

*Taken from IGN Boards>Elder Scrolls Game Board thanks to daedalus42 for the post. Not sure if that's ok.

Pretty helpful, basic stuff there that should answer those questions.

[AshesofWake]

So i bought that shitty house in the Imperial City and i walk in and almost nothing there, anyways, i find out that there's other crappy houses around me and it was night time. So i decided to rob my neighbors for the hell of it, first house i go into nothing there and i jack EVERYTHING touchable. Then i go to the house right across from it, i use my lock picking and get in, i start to jack all of the shit some random orc suddenly walks in and says "oh don't mind me, im just courting this orc woman" so i talk to him and he says "take whatever you want, i dont care"

:rofl:

i did exactly that!

[Richlough]

I just killed a rat in the West Weald and watched it roll 75-100 ft down a hill .
Picking up speed and slowing down and speeding back up , as I laughed my ass off .

PETA would have an fuckin' aneurysm if they saw such a thing .
Not that I give a shit .

[Scorch]

So I saw a guard chase a criminal tonight. It was in Bravil. I didn't think other citizens commit crimes. It was the swimmer boy or whatever his name is in Bravil. Guard just ran over and killed him.. so I did what any newly crowned grand champion of the arena would do.

I looted his corpse, took his house key and raided his house.

[Chacrana]

phew... okay, I finally finished that damn vampirism quest.

[gokou36]

I just have one question, are there any dragons in this game?

[Calamityuponthee]

I just have one question, are there any dragons in this game?

No.

[TC]

phew... okay, I finally finished that damn vampirism quest.

Got any good tips for it? Anything would be helpful. Thanks.

So far I've collected
Soul gem from~ Impereal City Market District
Soul gem from~ Bruma Mage's Guild
2 of 6 Garlic Cloves
All 5 Nightshade
All 2 BloodGrass

[MysticMike01]

I must have gotten a really quality made 360, because it hasn't freezed up once during anything, ever. And I am always using the guide button during Oblivion, and it's never overheated or freezed or anything.

Me too. My 360 has NEVER frozen or anything since I've ever gotten it.

Also, I just got all my recommendations, and I'm now in the University place. This place is insane, BUT, it costs WAAAAAAY too much to make these spellls, even AFTER all the dough I made(and kinda wasted) after winning the Arena. They money glitch hasn't worked for me yet, either....so.... i dunno what to do.

[MysticMike01]

I don't think you can hide items in barrels. I do know that if you just drop stuff someplace, it's probably gonna stay there. I dropped a couple red robe things in front of the Marketplace in the Imperial City, and 32 game hours and 90 some game days later, they still sit there.

Yep. I did the mission where the guy in jail, named Jurunder, wanted you to kill the chick who framed him for revenge, so I got her to chase me out of the house, had the guards kill her, and some 50 game days later, her naked corpse is still sitting in the middle of the town. It's effin great.

[mmn]

I'm fighting this "Dread Zombie" in one of my quests, I can't seem to damage him, even with a silver weapon and magic. Is there any way to kill this, or do I just have to run past it? Its become a nice way to train my blade and destruction skills since its slow enough that I can dodge its attacks easily, and since my blade and spells hit him but he never dies. Doesn't seem to take any damage at all.

Its the Mages Guild quest, the first one Travan sends you on, where the battlemages are ambushed at the necromancer's base.

You just have to beat the shit out of it.

I had 2 after me and all I kept doing was dodging, use a good fire spell, and swinging my sword like a psycho. Eventually, with some help from my own zombie that I summoned, they both went down. Hell of a fight, though.

[dafoomie]

Anyone done the quest for the mages guild where you have to clear out a vampire cave, and either get rid of, or killl the vampire hunters in town? I can't seem to figure out how to get rid of them without killing them.

[MysticMike01]

Anyone get a unicorn yet? I hear that to the east of the Inn of Ill Omen, there's a spot with 3 minotaurs guarding the unicorn. Imma have to try to get it 2morro...

[pimpinc333]

Anyone get a unicorn yet? I hear that to the east of the Inn of Ill Omen, there's a spot with 3 minotaurs guarding the unicorn. Imma have to try to get it 2morro...

Thanks gonna check this shit out tomorrow also.

[mmn]

Anyone done the quest for the mages guild where you have to clear out a vampire cave, and either get rid of, or killl the vampire hunters in town? I can't seem to figure out how to get rid of them without killing them.

Yeah. I just killed them, that's the only way I could figure out how to do it. Then I paid the fine when the guard came to arrest me, and went and killed the next one.

That's the mission that finally turned me around. The vampires drop some great stuff - love those glass weapons.

[zewone]

beat the game. and yes i got the unicorn. its a daedra artifact quest.

[Maynard]

I can't find that FUCKING skeleton key quest that zewone talked about. I want that key that is unbreakable and can pick locks endlessy. Help me out.

[pimpinc333]

beat the game. and yes i got the unicorn. its a daedra artifact quest.

You can never beat the game! Anyways your a dork. All I need to say. :)

[mmn]

Heh, right now I'm kinda cheating. I need to get my Alteration skill up to 75 so I can create the "Open Very Hard Lock" spell. So I'm standing in a corner casting "shield" on myself over and over and over.

I guess its a cheap way to level up (since as a Mage guy I could just do the same thing with conjuring or whatever), but oh well. I'll never be able to pick locks, thank Christ for spells that'll do it for me.

[Brak]

What's a low level conjuration spell?

[dafoomie]

Yeah. I just killed them, that's the only way I could figure out how to do it. Then I paid the fine when the guard came to arrest me, and went and killed the next one.

That's the mission that finally turned me around. The vampires drop some great stuff - love those glass weapons.
I just did it, all I had to do was tell their leader where the vampires were. I went the next day, they were already there fighting them, they all died and they killed about half the vampires. I made about 10 grand off that place, and upgraded my armor and weapons, had to make 3 trips just to get all the stuff out of there.

To whoever has done the houses, which one would you say is the best? I took a look at the one in the imperial city, its cheap, but its just a little shack.

[dafoomie]

Heh, right now I'm kinda cheating. I need to get my Alteration skill up to 75 so I can create the "Open Very Hard Lock" spell. So I'm standing in a corner casting "shield" on myself over and over and over.

I guess its a cheap way to level up (since as a Mage guy I could just do the same thing with conjuring or whatever), but oh well. I'll never be able to pick locks, thank Christ for spells that'll do it for me.
That was the way to do it in Morrowind. If you really want to be cheap about it, create a spell in each magic type that does almost nothing and costs almost no mana to cast, and have it cast on yourself. You can even cast fire damage on yourself and raise your destruction level that way.

I wouldn't say its cheap, the mages in the mages guild do it, you're just practicing your spells. I think my Alteration is at around 80 now, thats by far the easiest one to do.

[pimpinc333]

I just did it, all I had to do was tell their leader where the vampires were. I went the next day, they were already there fighting them, they all died and they killed about half the vampires. I made about 10 grand off that place, and upgraded my armor and weapons, had to make 3 trips just to get all the stuff out of there.

To whoever has done the houses, which one would you say is the best? I took a look at the one in the imperial city, its cheap, but its just a little shack.

I'm doing the one in Anvil. It's a really big and nice house for 5K and its comes with a Quest.

[mmn]

What's a low level conjuration spell?

Well, I started out able to summon a skeleton. And at the level I'm at now, I can summon the skeleton over and over without it draining any magicka.

[dafoomie]

I'm doing the one in Anvil. It's a really big and nice house for 5K and its comes with a Quest.
Thats what I just did. Theres a few ghost bodies laying around still, but thats OK. And the secret altar area is still there with the coffins and bones, but you can close the door and ignore it.

Seems like its harder to decorate in this than in Morrowind, you can't drop things on a specific place anymore, they just fall from about 10 feet and bounce.

[dafoomie]

Anyone know an easy place to get some of those stones that recharge your magic items? Its so expensive to recharge, I already had to pay 2 grand to repair my weapons, now they want 4 grand to recharge everything. Even one of those would be fine... I've had two before but I used them already.

[mmn]

beat the game. and yes i got the unicorn. its a daedra artifact quest.

What level did your character end up at? I just hit level 20 with 30 hours of playtime in (wasted a whole fucking weekend playing this game).

I just found a bunch of glass armor and geeked out over it. I've never felt this nerdy before.

[zewone]

What level did your character end up at? I just hit level 20 with 30 hours of playtime in (wasted a whole fucking weekend playing this game).
I was level 21 when I beat it. You'll have no problem finishing the Main Quest at your level.

[zewone]

I can't find that FUCKING skeleton key quest that zewone talked about. I want that key that is unbreakable and can pick locks endlessy. Help me out.
I sent you a PM. Just in case anyone is having problems I'll try my best to explain where it's at. It's a Dark Elf lady in Leyawin Mage's Guild. If she doesn't bring up the topic of Daedra Artifacts you can just walk to the spot.

If you leave Leyawin heading East and follow the road heading North you should find "Nocturnal's Shrine" a little to the left where of the "b" where it's says "bounty something" on the map in light letters.

I'm gonna try and find a map online to pinpoint it.

[Chacrana]

I was level 21 when I beat it. You'll have no problem finishing the Main Quest at your level.


Gotta ask though -- how much time did you spend on the game?

[pimpinc333]

Gotta ask though -- how much time did you spend on the game?

Hmmm I have about 31 hours myself and Zewone played a lot more. I'm gonna guess it at 42 hours. Am I right Zew?

[zewone]

37 hours. :cry: This past week I was sent home early from work everyday. hahaha

I can't find a map. I guess I'll scan the one that comes with the game.

Hmmm I have about 31 hours myself and Zewone played a lot more.

A lot of the time when I would get bored I would just play and kill everyone in a city then move to the next city and murder everyone. I didn't save it then, so I played more then 37 probably but that didn't go towards my play time.

[pimpinc333]

37 hours. :cry: This past week I was sent home early from work everyday. hahaha

I can't find a map. I guess I'll scan the one that comes with the game.



A lot of the time when I would get bored I would just play and kill everyone in a city then move to the next city and murder everyone. I didn't save it then, so I played more then 37 probably but that didn't go towards my play time.

Same but I'd only do it for about 5 mins since the guards whoop my ass.

[SteveMcQ]

Seems like its harder to decorate in this than in Morrowind, you can't drop things on a specific place anymore, they just fall from about 10 feet and bounce.You can decorate? No fuckin' way. As in decorate Animal Crossing style? Or do you just mean find things you like and drop it out of your inventory?

I'm not sure if you can precisely place objects, but the LB button grabs things. Haven't actually tried that on items only dragging dead bodies around, which is mightily amusing btw.

Where's Anvil btw coming from the Imperial City? I can't find it on the map...is there a way to zoom out on that? I think I'm gonna have to get the strategy guide for this. I hate having to search around for particular people, too.

[zewone]

Same but I'd only do it for about 5 mins since the guards whoop my ass.
You suck Thief. My thief could leap tall buildings with a single bound and just sit on top with my Bow of the Dynamo and a couple hundred arrows and pick people off like a sniper. :)

Here's the map the the skeleton key. Actually called "Nocturnal's Shrine", but you get the idea.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1414/skeleton1gz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Dr Mario Kart]

You guys shouldnt be beating it already. I spent mustve spent at least 40 hours in Morrowind before touching the first leg of the main quest.

I'm about to spend a good while in just the character creation.

[Roufuss]

You guys shouldnt be beating it already. I spent mustve spent at least 40 hours in Morrowind before touching the first leg of the main quest.

I'm about to spend a good while in just the character creation.

In Morrowind, the main quest was very boring and nobody bothered with it.

In Oblivion, the main quest is awesome and I, and probably many others, are focusing on that first.

[orphicblue]

6-page review up over at Ars Technica. Breaks it down for 360 and PC owners.
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/games/oblivion.ars

[KwanzaaTimmy]

Heh, right now I'm kinda cheating. I need to get my Alteration skill up to 75 so I can create the "Open Very Hard Lock" spell. So I'm standing in a corner casting "shield" on myself over and over and over.

I guess its a cheap way to level up (since as a Mage guy I could just do the same thing with conjuring or whatever), but oh well. I'll never be able to pick locks, thank Christ for spells that'll do it for me.

You can do that, but you should do it only if it's not a major skill for your character--- if you level it up too much, you'll miss out on all the multipliers (Minus Willpower, I suppose) for your levels.

Strange how that works out, but it's better to practice your minor skills to get the 4x-5x multipliers and then use the major skills to level up when you have what you want complete.

Though I suppose if you're not really concerned about leveling stats up to the max- then it isn't all that important.

[FoeHammer]

To the people trying to decorate, us the left bumper to maually pick up and drop items. You can throw stuff at people too!

[seanr1221]

Bah, I STILL can't find enough of those two flowers to get back into the mages guild (I was kicked out) :(

This sucks, any tips on where to get them?

[Javery]

I caved and bought it yesterday. I had a gift card saved from Christmas so it was basically free. I played through the first part of the game and escaped the sewers and I have to say I am intrigued to see what's out there. I was tired last night so I turned it off to go to sleep but I've been thinking about it all day today and I can't wait to get home and play some more. I hope I can figure out what the heck to do because the amount of items and everything seems overwhelming right now.

I really don't like RPGs even though I've played the better parts of FFIII, FFVII, FFVIII, Paper Mario and few others but this one seems different. The first person combat makes it feel more like Zelda and less like a dungeon crawling leveling up borefest.

Hopefully I can get into it - I love reading the stories people are telling about their characters because I know everyone will experience the game in a different way. It really is a brilliant way to design a game - imagine if Hyrule was this big and this open ended.... mmm...

[zewone]

Bah, I STILL can't find enough of those two flowers to get back into the mages guild (I was kicked out) :(

This sucks, any tips on where to get them?
I got kicked out and I have to find 20 Daedra Hearts and 20 Vampire Dusts. Luckily I got the Hearts before I beat the game or else I would have been screwed with no way to find any more Daedras.

[Genocidal]

Bah, I STILL can't find enough of those two flowers to get back into the mages guild (I was kicked out) :(

This sucks, any tips on where to get them?

Flowers? I've gotta get 20 Vampire Dusts and 20 Daedric Hearts before they let me back in.

If there's anyone who hasn't started yet and is trying to do all the guild quests, I'd recommend waiting to join the Mages' Guild until after you beat the Thieves' Guild line of quests, unless you want to have to do this lame quest to get back in :bomb:

[mmn]

I caved and bought it yesterday. I had a gift card saved from Christmas so it was basically free. I played through the first part of the game and escaped the sewers and I have to say I am intrigued to see what's out there. I was tired last night so I turned it off to go to sleep but I've been thinking about it all day today and I can't wait to get home and play some more. I hope I can figure out what the heck to do because the amount of items and everything seems overwhelming right now.

I really don't like RPGs even though I've played the better parts of FFIII, FFVII, FFVIII, Paper Mario and few others but this one seems different. The first person combat makes it feel more like Zelda and less like a dungeon crawling leveling up borefest.

Hopefully I can get into it - I love reading the stories people are telling about their characters because I know everyone will experience the game in a different way. It really is a brilliant way to design a game - imagine if Hyrule was this big and this open ended.... mmm...

If you want some advice :

Follow the storyline up until you have to go close your first Oblivion Gate. You'll be offered the chance to join the Blades, and you'll get some decent armor/weapons for free.

At that point the best way to get more gold and upgrade your weapons is to join a Guild and follow those quests. I did the Mage's Guild first and ended up with a ton of gold and really good stuff by the end of it.

[2Fast]

Also, and I don't mean to post three times in a row --

I found an Easter Egg in the game: the character M'aiq the Liar, from Morrowind.

He's almost impossible to find, because he runs (and fast) across the entire world. You'd literally need to be in the right place and the right time to find him. I spoke to him, and all he had to say was something like, "I don't see the point of burning a building down." And he ran off. Weird.

I found him too, outside of Anvil. He said something about "feet are for landing, hands are for slapping, but also for..." I don't really remember what all he said, but then he ran off.

[dafoomie]

In Morrowind, the main quest was very boring and nobody bothered with it.
Are you serious? I loved the main quest in Morrowind.

[seanr1221]

Anyone take on Umbra yet? I love her Umbra sword!!

[Grave_Addiction]

Man, I'm getting really pissed off now. I'm on my fourth mission for the Dark Brotherhood. It's the one where you have to stage someone's death.

Anyway, as soon as I do the deed and leave town, the game freezes. It's done this three times now. I have turned off the 360 for about an hour and came back and tried again, and I get the same problem. I've also tried to warp and to wait, and it still keeps freezing.

I've also done the cache clearing.

Any suggestions?

[Chacrana]

So in the main storyline, I've finished the part with Azura's Shrine... approx. how much left do I have, or am I still near the beginning?

[Eastsidecracker]

On the second mission for the thieves guild, is there a way to not kill the lady in the chapel (which says something about a 1000 fine)?

[momadaboo]

I can't wait until I get a 360. This will be the first game I get.

[seanr1221]

look at what me and my roomie did

http://myspace-225.vo.llnwd.net/00605/52/26/605496225_l.jpg

Goblin pr0n!!

[pimpinc333]

look at what me and my roomie did

http://myspace-225.vo.llnwd.net/00605/52/26/605496225_l.jpg

Goblin pr0n!!

LOL

Thanks to Zewone I just got my Skeleton Key. Very Good Stuff.

[Brak]

What do I do to prompt the action in order to ask people about the location of the Skeleton Key?

[Technique]

On the second mission for the thieves guild, is there a way to not kill the lady in the chapel (which says something about a 1000 fine)?

Is that were you have to steal the sculpture? If so, use your sneaking skills!!

[Eastsidecracker]

Is that were you have to steal the sculpture? If so, use your sneaking skills!!

Thanks, got it.

Whats the skeleton key do?

[zewone]

Thanks, got it.

Whats the skeleton key do?
Unbreakable lockpick and it adds +40 to your security.

[Javery]

Damn, I'm 2.5 hours in and I just made it to the first town across the long bridge... so far so good... is there anything major in the first cave to the right of the sewer entrance? I was exploring in there for about an hour and ended up going in one big circle. I found a few things but nothing earth-shattering (I don't think)...

[pimpinc333]

Brak all you need to do is go where zewone showed us on the map on page 32-33. It will give you the quest right at that Nocturnal Shrine Location. The people near it are good so don't kill em :)

[pimpinc333]

Damn, I'm 2.5 hours in and I just made it to the first town across the long bridge... so far so good... is there anything major in the first cave to the right of the sewer entrance? I was exploring in there for about an hour and ended up going in one big circle. I found a few things but nothing earth-shattering (I don't think)...
Use yur map alot and remember you can fast travel to any more town.

[RedvsBlue]

My god this game has sucked up my life! I'm at almost 24 hours of game time now. This is really unheard of for me. I can usually only stand about 10-15 hours of a game (in a week or so) otherwise I get really bored with it.

[dafoomie]

I'm getting really pissed off at this game freezing so much.

[pimpinc333]

I'm getting really pissed off at this game freezing so much.

I really don't think its the game. Early Xbox's did the same thing. Some games it woud play just fine but then some wouldn't. I'd take this as a sign and send it to MS.

[Technique]

The god damn vampire cure quest is such a big pain in the ass.

[seanr1221]

Same here RedVSBlue, I'm 25 hours in and have no intentions of stopping.

[MysticMike01]

You suck Thief. My thief could leap tall buildings with a single bound and just sit on top with my Bow of the Dynamo and a couple hundred arrows and pick people off like a sniper. :)

Here's the map the the skeleton key. Actually called "Nocturnal's Shrine", but you get the idea.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1414/skeleton1gz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sweet. Does it take a long while to get it after you reach that location? I'm kinda tired right now, and I dunno if I wanna start a long drawn out mission type thing if it's gonna take too long..

[Arikado]

Sweet. Does it take a long while to get it after you reach that location? I'm kinda tired right now, and I dunno if I wanna start a long drawn out mission type thing if it's gonna take too long..

It doesn't take long at all. Even if it did, the reward is well worth it.

[MysticMike01]

It doesn't take long at all. Even if it did, the reward is well worth it.

thanks, bro. i did it and now have the skeleton key. good ish...

[TheUnsane1]

I've determined my character is worthless. I'm lvl 8 and I can't kill most bi-peds with out serious kiting. Even with running them around I still die about 40% of the time in almost all 1v1 fights. Dark Elf Thief = junk. So whats a fun build to play that will allow me to advance more then 4 fights into the arena quests(twins ruin my day)? I would still like to keep the stealthy aspect but the Dark Elf just seems so fragile and low on magika. I'm also not sure how I feel about marksman it just seems like a secondary skill in most fights you aren't able to utilize range to its utmost.

[pimpinc333]

So I went to try and get the Unicorn and something werid happened...... I saw the unicorn running around and I couldn't get on it, the reason? It was chasing after a deer tring to kill it. Then out of no where a Minotaur Lord see's this and goes nuts. He starts to beat the shit out of the Unicorn. The Lord ended up killing the Unicorn and me. What a bastard :)

[dafoomie]

I just cleaned out Fort Strand near Anvil, made 10 grand off the cheap stuff alone, took 3 trips to carry it all out.

Is there a shop somewhere that can afford to pay more than these cheap shops for each item somewhere?

I also got a quest called "when the vow breaks" when I picked up a mace, I have to tell the spouse of the guy I killed for it that he's dead. But it doesn't tell me where to go.

[KwanzaaTimmy]

I've determined my character is worthless. I'm lvl 8 and I can't kill most bi-peds with out serious kiting. Even with running them around I still die about 40% of the time in almost all 1v1 fights. Dark Elf Thief = junk. So whats a fun build to play that will allow me to advance more then 4 fights into the arena quests(twins ruin my day)? I would still like to keep the stealthy aspect but the Dark Elf just seems so fragile and low on magika. I'm also not sure how I feel about marksman it just seems like a secondary skill in most fights you aren't able to utilize range to its utmost.

I'd go Wood Elf for a Thief build, and at first I'd either grab the warrior birthsign, or the mage for health/magicka respectively. After that build your character up so that even if you want to use Light Armor at first-- Level your heavy armor skill some, so that when you level you get That Endurance Multiplyer.

I'd recommend that you also have a backup weapon skill, and to make sure you get 10 ranks of any combination of the three (H2H, Blunt, Blade)-- so that you can get your Strength up.

If your a theif, your main skillset will enhance Agility and speed as you level and play around with your different stealth moves-- so work on the ones that don't level first as its easier.

[Javery]

I'm getting really pissed off at this game freezing so much.

That's why I stopped playing last night. It froze in the first inn I visited. I talked to the inn keeper and she wanted me to find her 6 bottles of wine and then the game froze. I get a dirty disc error when I play Burnout and DOA4 freezes a lot too. I starting to really get annoyed at the hardware but I don't want to send it to Microsoft for 2 weeks... maybe I'll give them a call...

[Scorch]

I starting to really get annoyed at the hardware but I don't want to send it to Microsoft for 2 weeks... maybe I'll give them a call...

Everyone here knows you won't, you will bitch for the next 3 weeks that your system keeps freezing but you've been too busy to call.

[Scorch]

some locations or something

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6613/goldcoast1kl.jpg

[doubledown]

That's why I stopped playing last night. It froze in the first inn I visited. I talked to the inn keeper and she wanted me to find her 6 bottles of wine and then the game froze. I get a dirty disc error when I play Burnout and DOA4 freezes a lot too. I starting to really get annoyed at the hardware but I don't want to send it to Microsoft for 2 weeks... maybe I'll give them a call...

Mine is freezing more often too. I have a newer 360 now also. My 3rd one....I refuse to send it back again. It already froze about 3 times on me. It actually froze again in NBA 2K6....starting to get annoyed.

[mmn]

For anyone with a character strong in magicka don't bother trying to get that Skeleton Key. If you go through the Mage's Guild storyline you'll end up able to make your own spells at the end of it. One of the spells is "Open Very Hard Lock". I no longer need to try lockpicking or anything, just point my finger at anything locked and boom, opens right up.

[Brak]

Brak all you need to do is go where zewone showed us on the map on page 32-33. It will give you the quest right at that Nocturnal Shrine Location. The people near it are good so don't kill em :)

Cripes... I don't get how I missed that post. Thanks.

And thanks, zew. I got my Skeleton Key just a little while ago. Works like a charm.

[Staind204]

Mine is freezing more often too. I have a newer 360 now also. My 3rd one....I refuse to send it back again. It already froze about 3 times on me. It actually froze again in NBA 2K6....starting to get annoyed.


I'm up to about 10 DDE's on this game. Nba 2k6 just froze a lot. Madden had DDE's , Burnout gives the ocassional DDE. argg.. makes me so mad. :(

[jer7583]

I don't get any error messages i just get the occasional game locks up and stops responding to any input and screen freezes. Mostly in the outdoors when i've been walking around a lot (I don't like fast travel much)

[dafoomie]

Is there any way to not get infected with vampyrism when you're doing the quest for Azura in the main storyline? I hear the cure is a pain in the ass.

[Chacrana]

Actually, that's how I got it

[Staind204]

Is there any way to not get infected with vampyrism when you're doing the quest for Azura in the main storyline? I hear the cure is a pain in the ass.


Just run to the church as soon as you do this mission and pray at the alter.

[MysticMike01]

For anyone with a character strong in magicka don't bother trying to get that Skeleton Key. If you go through the Mage's Guild storyline you'll end up able to make your own spells at the end of it. One of the spells is "Open Very Hard Lock". I no longer need to try lockpicking or anything, just point my finger at anything locked and boom, opens right up.

Yea, I had actually created the Open Very Hard Lock spell before I got the Skeleton Key, but hell, the S Key is still worth 1000 bones.

[pimpinc333]

Just run to the church as soon as you do this mission and pray at the alter.

Not that case if your infamey is higher then your fame. Then you can pray at a church. I found an alter by the place you get a unicorn and it let me pray there. It made my damaged stats go back to normal so it should also heal the 3 day Vampire bites.

[MysticMike01]

Also, last night, I was "inititated" into the Dark Brotherhood, and they told me to go talk to that one guy to get a mission. Well, when i went to talk to him, I saw he was a vampire, and I almost freaked out. lol. im tired of those muthafuckas

[dafoomie]

Do I have to use Azura's Star as the item to be destroyed for the main quest, or can I use a different daedric item? Azura's Star is a nice item to have.

[Staind204]

I need to raise certain skills such as "Alteration" and "Mysticism" but how do I do this when I dont have any spells of that type? I cant raise them unless I use the skill and I dont have the skill?

[MysticMike01]

I need to raise certain skills such as "Alteration" and "Mysticism" but how do I do this when I dont have any spells of that type? I cant raise them unless I use the skill and I dont have the skill?

What race are you? I'm a Breton, and I have a "Shell" spell that takes away very little magicka, but still increases the Alteration quite a bit each time I do it. I just did this for a while until I reached 75.

[zewone]

Is there any way to not get infected with vampyrism when you're doing the quest for Azura in the main storyline? I hear the cure is a pain in the ass.
Be an Argonian like me! :D I love the lizard race. Works very well with how I play the game.

[VanillaGorilla]

Also, last night, I was "inititated" into the Dark Brotherhood, and they told me to go talk to that one guy to get a mission. Well, when i went to talk to him, I saw he was a vampire, and I almost freaked out. lol. im tired of those muthafuckas

Don't worry, you'll have a chance to fix him real nice a little later in the game...

[zewone]

Do I have to use Azura's Star as the item to be destroyed for the main quest, or can I use a different daedric item? Azura's Star is a nice item to have.
No. If you want Azura's Star you can go get another one. I suggest Malacath's Shrine (theres a map in Scorch's post above) for the Daedra Artifact. It's a 2 handed Hammer which I know no one likes. And to the guys who got the Skeleton Key, definately don't give that Artifact to Martin. You'll be screwed.

[Eastsidecracker]

I'm up to about 10 DDE's on this game. Nba 2k6 just froze a lot. Madden had DDE's , Burnout gives the ocassional DDE. argg.. makes me so mad. :(
Id definatly call them in on that 360 then.

Is the only way to learn new spells (or increase the damage of current(flame)) to level up my alteration (just sit there and constantly use a low magicka constatnly)?

[Staind204]

What race are you? I'm a Breton, and I have a "Shell" spell that takes away very little magicka, but still increases the Alteration quite a bit each time I do it. I just did this for a while until I reached 75.


Im an Imperial.. Bard class. The only type of magic I have besides Illusion, Destruction, and Restiration is one that requires me to be 25 or higher in one of the other categories. I'm not level 25 so I cant use this spell, therefore I cant level up those stats :(

[dastly75]

"Inter-Special Relationship"
http://d75productions.com/pictures/inter-special relationship.JPG

Sorry had to do it, that bitch vampire lady in that gusgett caves was hard as hell, I had to lure her outside and shoot arrows at her and then finally this scramp finished her off for me.

[zewone]

There is another Easter Egg from Morrowind as your reward if you beat the Fighter's Guild quest storyline. Looks cool, but I won't use it. Reminds me of something from Alien vs. Predator.

[zewone]

Can anyone tell me where I can find some vampires? I need 10 more dusts and these douchebags ain't exatcly walking around everywhere. Stupid thief guild messing up mage guild quests is retarded.

[Eastsidecracker]

Where exactly is the skel.key when looking directly at the shrine?

[zewone]

Where exactly is the skel.key when looking directly at the shrine?
It's not laying around. It's a quest you get from the shrine. Once you complete the quest the shrine will give you the Skeleton Key.

[Eastsidecracker]

Bah, says "Nocturnal demands a more powerful champion to begin this quest."
Do I have to increase a stat? Beat the arena?

[pimpinc333]

Level 10 you must be. Well atleast what Zewone said 2-3 pages back.

[pimpinc333]

Got my Full Set of Glass Armor today. Very cool stuff and a big upgrade from the Shrouded Set I was using since just about the beginning of the game.

[zewone]

You need to be level 10 to do any of the Daedra Artifact quests.
Still need to find 10 vampires.
pimp - you need to beat the Dark Brotherhood questline.

[pimpinc333]

You need to be level 10 to do any of the Daedra Artifact quests.
Still need to find 10 vampires.
pimp - you need to beat the Dark Brotherhood questline.

I Will soon but I have a backlog of about 7 quests im tring to fulfil first.

[Genocidal]

You need to be level 10 to do any of the Daedra Artifact quests.

Not true. One of the ones I was assigned I only needed to be level 2 for, and yet another I needed to be level 15. It varies by deity.

[zewone]

Not true. One of the ones I was assigned I only needed to be level 2 for, and yet another I needed to be level 15. It varies by deity.
Really? Good to know. I need to find the others. I've only found 4 so far.

[rabbitt]

Anyone come across a good bow or one-handed sword? I'm a marksman and I am having trouble killing most things.

[Brak]

Anyone come across a good bow or one-handed sword? I'm a marksman and I am having trouble killing most things.

I found a one-handed glass shortsword in a cave, earlier. I'll try to tell you where it is when I get home.

[zewone]

I'm pretty sure the enemies you fight, have better gear depending on your level. I hadn't seen Glass gear or weapons until I was around level 21. Now EVERYONE I fight has it. Just level up and fight enemies, see what drop.

[Eastsidecracker]

Anybody find the knights tears, for the lion person from Leyawign mage guild? I dont see it at all.

[mmn]

Anyone come across a good bow or one-handed sword? I'm a marksman and I am having trouble killing most things.

You can get really nice one handed swords by closing random Oblivion gates. The guys in there drop some good stuff.

[Brak]

Anybody find the knights tears, for the lion person from Leyawign mage guild? I dont see it at all.

You have to ask people in the game about them.

[Eastsidecracker]

You have to ask people in the game about them.
I did, im looking for it in the jungle/tundra. Killed the big ice beast, examined the center, and spent good time looking everywhere there for it, didnt see it.

[dafoomie]

Anyone know where to get troll fat for Malacath?

[zewone]

Anyone know where to get troll fat for Malacath? I see a lot of trolls in caves south east of Leyawiin. They also roam freely in the fields in that area as well.

[Trakan]

There's a thread for the PC version of Oblivion, and the 360 version. Lets just keep the discussion of each to their respective threads.

PC thread: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88036

[Eastsidecracker]

Bump, anyone that beat the knights tears quest, from the lion person in Leyawign mage guild, want the location of it, or what I have to do after I beat the giant icicle.

[pimpinc333]

I Was Right! Thanks! :)

Anyways. I ran into Ma'rd the liar again. This time he said "Some people want these bows that take long to relaod and use a special kind of ammo called Bolts. Ma'rd calls them all Idiots". This is my 3rd time running into him and that was the best thing he said. Since Morrorwind Players kept shouting at the company to put Crossbows in the game.

[Richlough]

There's a thread for the PC version of Oblivion, and the 360 version. Lets just keep the discussion of each to their respective threads.

PC thread: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88036

Was this my post ?

People are talking about Morrowind Elder Scrolls in here , I don't see there posts being deleted/scolded .

I think i'm gonna start my game over and totally avoid any vampire contact whatsoever .

[Genocidal]

There's a thread for the PC version of Oblivion, and the 360 version. Lets just keep the discussion of each to their respective threads.

PC thread: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88036

No offense, but with this one being started first and being larger, there's a lot more people checking it out than the other one. The first few times I checked it I didn't even realize it was in the Xbox 360 forum, as it does show up on the main page.

[Genocidal]

Bump, anyone that beat the knights tears quest, from the lion person in Leyawign mage guild, want the location of it, or what I have to do after I beat the giant icicle.

There's five little tear-shaped drops on the ground in that frozen area. I'd recommend using a potion of Restore Health if you've alchemized some as even the low level ones will restore more health than you lose. Just look around on the ground surrounding the frozen guy, I think there's also one or two on his platform (If you can get in a decent position up there, you also stop taking frost damage).

[Trakan]

No offense, but with this one being started first and being larger, there's a lot more people checking it out than the other one. The first few times I checked it I didn't even realize it was in the Xbox 360 forum, as it does show up on the main page.

Well, I know, use whichever thread you'd like. My goal was just to keep the "PC is better, 360 is better" posts and random arguing out of either thread.

[psychobrawler]

How long does it take to level up? I feel like something's wrong... I've played like 8 hours, finished several quests (delivered Martin, recaptured Kvetch, closed an Oblivion gate...) and I'm still level 1 knight??? The last part of Kvetch was crazy hard cause I just can't take many blows. I've gotten tons of messages that my sneak has increased, blade increased, etc. but still haven't actually leveled up my class. I something wrong? What levels in your major skills do you have to reach before you level up?

[doubledown]

I think you have to SLEEP to level up. I don't know...I'm level 1 also.

[peloquin17]

sleep, and your level will increase.

i did the same thing

[mmn]

If you see an icon at the bottom of your screen that looks like an arrow pointed up surrounded by a half circle, that means you can level up. You just have to find an unoccupied bed to sleep in. The easiest way to get a free bed is to join the Arena - they have little mats in there you can rest on without having to pay.

[KwanzaaTimmy]

In order to level up any combination of your major skills must go up by 10. You can use minor skills to get better +bonuses to your stats if you want, but that takes some careful planning and whatnot.

[Genocidal]

Well, I know, use whichever thread you'd like. My goal was just to keep the "PC is better, 360 is better" posts and random arguing out of either thread.

Ah, got it :)

So 60 hours in I finally started the main quest, since I needed a source of Daedra Hearts to get back into the Mages Guild and I also didn't feel like getting my suspension lifted anyways. Now I have to show this book to someone who spends their days locked in the Arcane University, which means I've gotta go vampire hunting to get back in. Terrific. :bomb:

[psychobrawler]

sleep, and your level will increase.

i did the same thing

Thanks guys. I need to get home and do this. I'll probably be able to jump about 5 levels...

[Arikado]

Thanks guys. I need to get home and do this. I'll probably be able to jump about 5 levels...

If you do have the experience to level more than once, the icon will still be down beside your compass after you wake up. You only have to sleep for an hour at a time to level up as well. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Ahadi]

Well I discovered how to level up, and it turns out I was a level 7 character stuck in a level 1's body. So now I'm level 7, and have completed the first part(the easy part)of the Arena. I just killed the orc and am raking in the money. But with all that good, I've spent like 170 days in jail. I guess the Empire frowns on killing guards, stealing horses, pickpocketing, and killing innocent townspeople. Stiffs...

[Eastsidecracker]

Where is the eye of the nocturnal located, when you need to get it from the thieves (for s.key)?

What do you do in the fighters guild? Actual hand to hand boxing fighting?

If I worked on minor skills, say blunt, blade and H2H, which govern strength, and leveled up say 20 times, will it add 20 to my stats when I level up? (since your minors multiply it)

How do I get illusion, mysticism, and conjuration up, since I have no spells that I can use to level up?

[mmn]

What do you do in the fighters guild? Actual hand to hand boxing fighting?

How do I get illusion, mysticism, and conjuration up, since I have no spells that I can use to level up?

So far the only things I've done in the Fighter's Guild is quests, same as the Mage's Guild. They sent me on a quest to deliver some weapons to some other Guild members trapped in a cave full of trolls and another one to rid a woman's basement of wolves who kept eating her pet rats. Stuff like that.

Buy spells. Plenty of places/people sell them.

[KwanzaaTimmy]

Where is the eye of the nocturnal located, when you need to get it from the thieves (for s.key)?

What do you do in the fighters guild? Actual hand to hand boxing fighting?

If I worked on minor skills, say blunt, blade and H2H, which govern strength, and leveled up say 20 times, will it add 20 to my stats when I level up? (since your minors multiply it)

How do I get illusion, mysticism, and conjuration up, since I have no spells that I can use to level up?

As I've understood and tested, the Minor Skills ONLY apply to that particular level. Let me see if I can make it a bit clearer for you.

Say you want to have Strength as a +5 for your next level.

Your major skills have Blade in them. As such, it should be paramount that your H2H and Blunt Skill raise a combined 10 points, so that you get that +5. Blade can level too if you want, but unless you level your Blade +10 ONLY, you will never get +5 without touching minor skills.

Strange how its set up, I know, but if you plan on maximizing the growth of your custom character- It's paramount that you use the Minor skills to bolster your Major Stats.

Unlike Major Skills, which will count for further levels (raising Blade 20 in one level, will allow you to level twice, with two +5 STR multipliers) Minor Skills only apply to THAT particular level, as such it's important that you don't raise your minor skills TOO high, because you will need to raise them to continue Stat Growth to 100.

This works for all Stats-- and for Major and Minor skills, as I've stated. As such, if you want to "power" level your character- it's important that you set your MAJOR skills so that you have control over when they skill up.

Remember, any combined increase of 10 in your Major Skills = A New Level. So before you get those 10 points, make sure you have planned what your going to level up in your Minor Skills to equate a +5 bonus.
--

I'd only recommend this for someone who has already beaten the main questline, or is entirely focuesed on making a power character-- Its time consuming and requires a lot of note-taking (especially at higher levels of minor skills)

[Trakan]

Remember, any combined increase of 10 in your Major Skills = A New Level. So before you get those 10 points, make sure you have planned what your going to level up in your Minor Skills to equate a +5 bonus.

Are you sure? I know I have 5 points in Blade and 5 in Athletics, and I haven't leveled up yet.

[Staind204]

The DDE's in this game are getting out of control. I've got about 20 of them in the 30 hours ive played its really starting to piss me off. Is anyone elses messing up this much?

[pimpinc333]

The DDE's in this game are getting out of control. I've got about 20 of them in the 30 hours ive played its really starting to piss me off. Is anyone elses messing up this much?

Not a single one for me. I say its not the game its the system

[Staind204]

Not a single one for me. I say its not the game its the system


Yeah I think I got a bad one.. I had a lot of trouble with Madden as well. Burnout does it too but Ive only had that happen a couple times. PDZ and COD2 played fine though.. weird. Luckily I bought the 2 yr warranty but im having so fun with this game I dont want to lose the system. Im hoping I can keep my HD because im pretty far into the game...

[Staind204]

Well it just did it again.. thats 3 times in 15 minutes. Guess ill have to give M$ a call tomorrow =/

[MysticMike01]

Anyone do that Dark Brotherhood mission where you have to lure everyone to somewhere alone and kill them all off one by one? That was GREAT!!! Fuckin hilarious. And when it was jus you and the two guys left, the one guy thougth ti was the other guy, and got a sword and snuck up on him and killed him. Then I just went up to him with my staff, and blew him the fuck away. It was great.

[dafoomie]

Mine had been freezing up at times but most of my problems were from a corrupt savefile. It only occasionally freezes now when something tries to load.

[AshesofWake]

just finished the Dark Brotherhood questline, pretty fucking awesome quests and plot twist in there!

[seanr1221]

just finished the Dark Brotherhood questline, pretty ing awesome quests and plot twist in there!


I know what you mean, my roomie is doing those quests, and they seem crazy. I focused on fighters guild myself, and am a bit jealous of all the cool items he gets, while I just get some cash ;)

[jam3582]

Mine had been freezing up at times but most of my problems were from a corrupt savefile. It only occasionally freezes now when something tries to load.


just happened to me for the first time thank the gods for that auto save lol.

where and when do the vampires start comming out ? do you unlock them with a quest or something ?

[Scorch]

where and when do the vampires start comming out ?

The only time i've even encountered one was when I was in a cave once. Looked like a normal person, then it said I contracted vampirosa something or another.