The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - Gen. Discussion & Info

[Roufuss]

Does anyone have a detailed look at what comes in this?

[jrutz]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/745/745729p1.html

http://obliviondownloads.com/Coming_Soon_DLC8.aspx

[Roufuss]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/745/745729p1.html

http://obliviondownloads.com/Coming_Soon_DLC8.aspx

I read that but it's not very detailed into what exactly it provides other than a new questline. It says new weapons, armor, and enemy types but I'm curious as to what exactly they are.

[CaseyRyback]

Thanks OP for posting this. Went ahead and downloaded even though I am only 15 hours in, I know that this is a game I will continue to play off and on for months.

[AshesofWake]

dammit, too bad i traded in Oblivion to get Gears

[2Fast]

Does this come with achievements?

[LinkinPrime]

FYI:


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The following ‘Oblivion (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/t/theelderscrollsIVoblivion/)’ content is available on the Xbox Live Marketplace for all regions:

Name: Knights of the Nine
Price: 800 Points
Available in: All Xbox Live Regions
Dash Details: A fallen King has been unchained from the darkness of Oblivion to seek vengeance upon the Gods who banished him. Only a champion pure of heart can vanquish the evil that has been released upon the land. You must heed the call, reclaim the lost relics of the Divine Crusader, and return the Nine to glory. New dungeons, characters, quests, and mysteries await.

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/11/21/oblivion-knights-of-the-nine.aspx

[Technique]

An actual expansion pack coming out for oblivion?
http://xbox360.qj.net/Oblivion-to-get-a-Shivering-Isles-expansion-/pg/49/aid/76159

Sounds interesting.

[mr ryles]

I so badly want to start playing this game again, but then I remember I am a vampire. :(

[2Fast]

I so badly want to start playing this game again, but then I remember I am a vampire. :(
I think if you d/l the Vampire's Layer DLC you can (eventually?) get an easier cure for vampirism.

[mr ryles]

I think if you d/l the Vampire's Layer DLC you can (eventually?) get an easier cure for vampirism.

ya when that came out my hopes where high of finally enjoying the game again, but it turns out that you have to complete a mission and then buy something for the place that costs $10,000+ (if I remember correctly) I only had a few thousand at the time so that shot that dream down.

[sidochrome]

I'm guessing that for the 800 point Knights of the Nine d/l on the marketplace, 360 owners aren't going to recieve all of the back catalogue of downloadable content as well... or are they?

Can anyone who has taken the plunge clarify?

[getfckedx]

im wondering this too, because they removed everything else that was available for download, so you would think you did. who knows...

[sidochrome]

Hmm, if they've removed all of the other content, then that may be a sign.

I'll check it out later tonight.

[fraggedbylaggers]

If they removed everything else it would be safe to assume that all of it is included but who really knows...

[rxdoga]

I still show all of them as available. I believe it just the pc version of Knights of the Nine that gets them all in one.

[felixlighter]

I have a question about the Oblivion games disc.

First off, its been a love-hate relationship with this game. I have had constant issues with Oblivion, Dirty Disc Errors, lock ups and glitches since about hour 20. I noticed that there were several scratches on the back of the disc, the only disc in my collection that had these scratches. So I returned the game to the store where I bought it and received a replacement. The lock ups and dirty disc errors stopped.. I was convinced my original disc was the culprit and I was back in gaming heaven, I logged a good 40 hours with no issues.... but the problems returned along with the scratches, (still the only game in my collection that is not in pristine condition).

I managed to keep myself playing through all the hassles because I loved the game so much. I logged over 200 hrs and created 2 characters when it was all said and done. I felt satisfied that I did enough with the game and stopped playing it a couple months ago.

Since then my Xbox 360 had died and I received a new one (before I get flamed, I'm not blaming any particular game on the death of my system... it just simply died). Since Bethesda was offering Mehrune's Razor for free, I decided to give it another try. I was curious if my faulty system had anything to do with all the issues I had before and I was hoping for some problem-free gaming. I've been playing with this new console for quite sometime and it has worked like a charm but when I put that Oblivion disc in, the tray started to vibrate. I ejected it and put in a different game.... No vibration.... I put Oblivion back in... again it started to vibrate... It only happens when I put Oblivion in the disc tray. At this point I am not willing to risk any damage to my new console so I'm never playing that disc again.

That was a long back story but back to my original questions. Has anyone else had a similar problem with this game? Is it possible that the disc is not balanced and it's causing the vibration? Is there any differences between the limited edition and standard edition dvds, like a different graphic on the top or anything like that?

[Trakan]

I have a question about the Oblivion games disc.

First off, its been a love-hate relationship with this game. I have had constant issues with Oblivion, Dirty Disc Errors, lock ups and glitches since about hour 20. I noticed that there were several scratches on the back of the disc, the only disc in my collection that had these scratches. So I returned the game to the store where I bought it and received a replacement. The lock ups and dirty disc errors stopped.. I was convinced my original disc was the culprit and I was back in gaming heaven, I logged a good 40 hours with no issues.... but the problems returned along with the scratches, (still the only game in my collection that is not in pristine condition).

I managed to keep myself playing through all the hassles because I loved the game so much. I logged over 200 hrs and created 2 characters when it was all said and done. I felt satisfied that I did enough with the game and stopped playing it a couple months ago.

Since then my Xbox 360 had died and I received a new one (before I get flamed, I'm not blaming any particular game on the death of my system... it just simply died). Since Bethesda was offering Mehrune's Razor for free, I decided to give it another try. I was curious if my faulty system had anything to do with all the issues I had before and I was hoping for some problem-free gaming. I've been playing with this new console for quite sometime and it has worked like a charm but when I put that Oblivion disc in, the tray started to vibrate. I ejected it and put in a different game.... No vibration.... I put Oblivion back in... again it started to vibrate... It only happens when I put Oblivion in the disc tray. At this point I am not willing to risk any damage to my new console so I'm never playing that disc again.

That was a long back story but back to my original questions. Has anyone else had a similar problem with this game? Is it possible that the disc is not balanced and it's causing the vibration? Is there any differences between the limited edition and standard edition dvds, like a different graphic on the top or anything like that?

The old system was scratching the disc, it's just a coincidence that it died. Something was wrong with the system. I think Oblivion is one of the games that pushes the 360 to the limit. I haven't found a person who hasn't had the game freeze up their 360 at least once. It happened to me a handful of times throughout the course of me playing the game. You'll be fine playing Oblivion on your new 360.

[felixlighter]

The old system was scratching the disc, it's just a coincidence that it died. Something was wrong with the system. I think Oblivion is one of the games that pushes the 360 to the limit. I haven't found a person who hasn't had the game freeze up their 360 at least once. It happened to me a handful of times throughout the course of me playing the game. You'll be fine playing Oblivion on your new 360.

I agree that Oblivion had nothing to do with the death of my last console and it almost certainly caused the scratches. The reason I'm reluctant to play Oblivion in my new console is because when I put the disc in the tray it vibrates. It makes a quiet rumbling noise that none of my other disc make. You can't notice it when the games being played and its spinning at maximum RPMs, but when its idle, like when I'm at the dashboard, you can hear the disc spinning and vibrating in the tray. Its even worse when I turn off the system and it rumbles to a stop.

I would actually really like to replace the disc if I can find it cheap and I know for sure its not just going to happen again.

[RelentlessRolento]

My disc vibrates, but the system goes normal in about 5 min.

I'm almost done with all the achievements :) once I'm done with that, i'll do Razor and finally buy houses other than Frostcrag.

[jlarlee]

Quick question I contacted vampirism and not really digging it. I was going to deal with it because the quest I saw in walkthroughs seemed too difficult. But someone at work today mentioned one of the extra content download gets you an easy fix for it. Which download has this?

[RelentlessRolento]

Vile Lair (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/theelderscrollsivoblivion/gamecontent-vilelair.htm)

[jughead]

Vile Lair (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/theelderscrollsivoblivion/gamecontent-vilelair.htm)
You mean you can download a cure? Do you know how far I had to go for soul gems? Now I kinda feel like a badass though.

In a side note related to vampirism: Early in the game I contracted the disease and spent two weeks getting all the goods for that old' wench. I also had some dealings with the Count of Skingrad. Anywho, I got the cure for myself and the Count. Now, later in the game, I joined the Dark Brotherhood and the Leader (Name?) mentioned the count again. That is where I quit last night. I was wondering if there is yet another vampire mission or what?

Finally, in regards to scratchy discs, I don't know if I have them but I can definately report a few lockups and freezes here and there while playing the game. Not only that, but slowdown while outside is a total bitch. I kinda ruins the beauty of the game for me at times.

[CaseyRyback]

I have yet to play it, but

I believe the count is a vampire from what I read on the wiki and the Dark Brotherhood will offer the opportunity to become a vampire though if you were already a vampire you cannot become one again.

[jughead]

Interesting...

[LinkinPrime]

News on an opcoming Expansion Pack:

The first solid details from the upcoming Oblivion full expansion hit the newsstands today in the latest issue of PC Zone Magazine. The add-on will offer over 30 hours of new adventures, with new quests, monsters, a new land, and new quoest paths that branch more than before. The storyline begins when an ominous looking gate opens in Nibben Bay, a new doorway that leads to a "Torn Realm," called the Shivering Isles. The land is ruled by Sheogorath, the god of madness and dementia. When players meet this god they must go through his trials, and it is even said players may end up replacing the diety. You can expect this expansion in the second quarter of 2007, no word on how Bethesda plans to work the Xbox360/PS3 versions of the expansion.

http://www.gamersreports.com/news/4689/

I seriously gotta get back into this game.

[Chacrana]

News on an opcoming Expansion Pack:



http://www.gamersreports.com/news/4689/

I seriously gotta get back into this game.


Yep, PC Gamer had a 2 page article this month on the expansion. Sounds really cool... I'll prolly start a new game once I pick that and the Knights of the Nine expansions up.

[mr ryles]

I'm in the same boat I think once that expansion comes out I will download it, the knights of the 9 and all other expansions and start a new guy.

[jlarlee]

You mean you can download a cure? Do you know how far I had to go for soul gems? Now I kinda feel like a badass though.

In a side note related to vampirism: Early in the game I contracted the disease and spent two weeks getting all the goods for that old' wench. I also had some dealings with the Count of Skingrad. Anywho, I got the cure for myself and the Count. Now, later in the game, I joined the Dark Brotherhood and the Leader (Name?) mentioned the count again. That is where I quit last night. I was wondering if there is yet another vampire mission or what?

Finally, in regards to scratchy discs, I don't know if I have them but I can definately report a few lockups and freezes here and there while playing the game. Not only that, but slowdown while outside is a total bitch. I kinda ruins the beauty of the game for me at times.

yea took me like 1 minute well worth the 150 points

[RelentlessRolento]

the expansion sounds great. i'm just glad they're adding more bulk to an aready great game. also, ive got all acheivements except for 5 from the theives guild :)

[Kaijufan]

Hopefully they deal with the Oblivion expansions like they did with Morrowind. Wait until all the PC expansions are out, and then release a discounted ($40 or so) Game of the Year edition with the base game and expansions (and maybe the DLC).

[Rei no Otaku]

News on an opcoming Expansion Pack:



http://www.gamersreports.com/news/4689/

I seriously gotta get back into this game.
*cries* I'm never going to be able to stop playing this game!

[sj41]

I'm still stuck to this game. I finished the Thieves Guild a couple days ago (the last mission was badass) to complete all of the guilds. I still need to play the main quest, which I've barely started.

I'm considering downloading the Knights expansion, but I still haven't heard Wombat's or anybody elses opinion on it. Is it worth $10 if I want more Oblivion?

[Rei no Otaku]

I thought it was worth it. While it's not really long, it was a fun quest and it had a good story to it. Plus you get a whole new HQ full of knights to command when you finish!

[RelentlessRolento]

I thought it was worth it. While it's not really long, it was a fun quest and it had a good story to it. Plus you get a whole new HQ full of knights to command when you finish!


what can you have the knights do for you exactly?

[Rei no Otaku]

what can you have the knights do for you exactly?
You can just have them follow you around and they'll help you attack enemies.

[RelentlessRolento]

You can just have them follow you around and they'll help you attack enemies.


are they considered hero characters where they wont die, but just get knocked out?

[VanillaGorilla]

That would be sweet if they were able to port that expansion to the 360. Although, it sounds like it's going to be a lot bigger than the previous expansions, so it won't be a tidy little 200 or 300 meg download. And does MS think people will stomache paying 1600-2000 MS points for it?

[Brak]

I'd rather this be $19.99 (or however much) on a tangible disc.

[RelentlessRolento]

Highly unlikely that it's a disk... if it is it'll just be an installation disk. Expect it to be just a marketplace download, but a package for PC players.

I personally don't mind if it's a 1 gig download since I already have a ton of 1 gig demos, but no actual full game add ons that are 1 gig.

[Brak]

if it is it'll just be an installation disk.
What else would it have been?

The idea of a disc isn't unbelievable, but it would put Bethesda in danger of not selling copies, as a sole purchaser can pass it on to his friends (I.E. Halo 2 map pack).

[Rei no Otaku]

What else would it have been?

The idea of a disc isn't unbelievable, but it would put Bethesda in danger of not selling copies, as a sole purchaser can pass it on to his friends (I.E. Halo 2 map pack).
Unless they do what Koei did with the Xtreme Legends expansions. Where you have to put both discs in to access it everytime you boot it up. Annoying? Yes. But really the only way they'd be able to do the disc route. Other than making us buy the whole game again.

[RelentlessRolento]

wooh! finally, at 5:40am I finally get all the guilds/achievements done... >_<

[jlarlee]

Hey where is a good place to get lockpicks? The thives guid guy isn;t selling them anymore and i need a few for the prison dark brotherhood mission

[brokelikejoke]

I think you may have stumbled onto how Oblivion is like anal sex.

I`ve got it, Oblivion is like anal sex because...

It may seem too big and Painful at first but once you bitches learn to relax, it can be quite an enjoyable experience.. and if you really get in to it you wont have to worry about having kids... too bad its for totally different reasons...

anyways just got the game a few days ago and it rocks.... well maybe thats not a good term for it ... its immense ... i had a less then legal copy of the PC version a little while ago but never completed it b4 i had to return my kickass work laptop... anyways i decided to show my respect for the company by buying a second hand 360 version which i guess is better, cause it only screws them a little ... but at least they`ll get a reach around when i get Knights of the nine...

[Rei no Otaku]

Hey where is a good place to get lockpicks? The thives guid guy isn;t selling them anymore and i need a few for the prison dark brotherhood mission
Outside the Imperial City there's a guy called Shady Sam who sells them.

[Trakan]

Forget about buying lockpicks after you hit level 10. Go find the skeleton key, an unbreakable lockpick.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1787476&postcount=639

[fraggedbylaggers]

I'm considering downloading the Knights expansion, but I still haven't heard Wombat's or anybody elses opinion on it. Is it worth $10 if I want more Oblivion?

One of the stickied threads will tell you how to split the cost with a friend and allow you to both have full versions. I am going to do that with my friend as soon as I finish all of the Regular game.

[felixlighter]

Forget about buying lockpicks after you hit level 10. Go find the skeleton key, an unbreakable lockpick.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1787476&postcount=639
Unfortunately...
That is the artifact I gave to Martin...
but I rarely break lock picks so I'm ok.... It is much more time consuming though, when you take the time to pick a lock right.... Life would be easier with the skeleton key....


And by the way, from my earlier post... I bought my friends copy of the game for $25 to replace my damaged disc and it works like a charm. He bought it on release and played it for 2 hours and never went back so it was in like new condition. Now I'm addicted again...

[Tha Xecutioner]

Any reason why it made me update today?

[jlarlee]

I kind of burned through the main quest kind of quick in about 20 hours, I'm loving the dark brotherhood quests

[Kaijufan]

OXM Shivering Isles video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFI9IoXyGxc
It looks great. I can't wait to play it.

[RelentlessRolento]

OXM Shivering Isles video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFI9IoXyGxc
It looks great. I can't wait to play it.


nice. I love how they're going for dreamy stuff, which is polar opposite of the regular oblivion game. everything looks better already and I look forward to it :) thx !

[Rei no Otaku]

I can't wait. Even though I'm far from finished with Oblivion, bring on the expansion!

[RelentlessRolento]

I love the transition of traveling between the planes... that effect with the butterflys kicks ass... plus the game finally has someone with a beard! A BEARD!

[paz9x]

1600 ms pts. ? thats my guess
i really need to get cracking on oblivion.
i tend to try and hold off on play the games i own that i know are great.
i dunno why.

[Kaijufan]

1600 points would be my guess also. I doubt they would make people buy 2 cards to get enough points for the expansion.

[hootie]

Although I REALLY want to get Shivering Isles, theres NO way I'd spend more than 1600 points on it, no matter what

[RelentlessRolento]

Although I REALLY want to get Shivering Isles, theres NO way I'd spend more than 1600 points on it, no matter what


seeing as how much the expansions were priced, 1600 makes sense.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

Sweet, it involves Sheogorath.

[Rei no Otaku]

Although I REALLY want to get Shivering Isles, theres NO way I'd spend more than 1600 points on it, no matter what
I'd spend $30 on it. I'm more than willing to spend that for 30 more hours of Oblivion gameplay. Btw, nice to see a fellow Rhode Islander!
Sweet, it involves Sheogorath.
I hope it has more flaming dogs XD

[RelentlessRolento]

Sweet, it involves Sheogorath.


yeah, his quest was awesome... we finally get to meet the guy since we'll be working with him directly.

[Kaijufan]

Although I REALLY want to get Shivering Isles, theres NO way I'd spend more than 1600 points on it, no matter what
You do know that PC expansion packs with less content then the Shivering Isles will have often cost $30+ right? $20 is more then a fair price for 30-40 hours of gameplay.

[hootie]

Well, I'm a cheap ass gamer.


I'm cheap like that :booty:

[RelentlessRolento]

YESSS!!!!!!!! after reading the Game Informer preview, they added the one thing that was missing the most, and what I was wishing they had the whole time playing.... the ability craft your own armor and weapons! yay! glad I mastered heavy armor and armorer already :)

[hootie]

Freakin' sweet!

[Rei no Otaku]

The PC edition of The Shivering Isles will only be available at retail outlets (copublished by Bethesda and Take-Two Interactive), while Xbox 360 owners will only be able to download it directly from Xbox Live Marketplace. Bethesda has yet to announce in which form the expansion would be made available to PlayStation 3 owners, if at all.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6164329.html

Now we know. It'll be a download like the other extra content. Going to be a pretty big download I'd assume...

[Reality's Fringe]

I have over 40 hours into oblivion, and have only spent about 20 minutes on the main quest. There's no way I'll finish in time for shivering isles....

Maybe they'll have it on a disc by then so I can just buy it instead of downloading it?

Oblivion: Immesurably better than Morrowind.

[Rei no Otaku]

I have over 40 hours into oblivion, and have only spent about 20 minutes on the main quest. There's no way I'll finish in time for shivering isles....
I'm 80 hours in, and just now starting the main quest. And there's still a lot of side stuff for me to do.

[2Fast]

An expansion? :drool:

Maybe I'll reach 200 hours after all.

[SteveMcQ]

I really need to get back into this monster of a game. The last story mission I did was getting to that fortress up in the mountains.

[RelentlessRolento]

I really need to get back into this monster of a game. The last story mission I did was getting to that fortress up in the mountains.


you have a ways to go...

[pimpinc333]

I just started to play again last night and forgot how much fun this game is. Last night I did one mission where I had to find a missing dude and I ended up finding him but only to be thrown into what they called Hunters Run where I had to make my way through a maze and kill off the hunters. After that there was a cool twist to the ending. Man this game is good.

[hootie]

I <3 this game.

a lot.

:D

[sp00ge]

Must... fight ..... temptation. I have to finish Saints Row first before delving back into Oblivion!

[jfunkdpg]

I've been playing this game off and on since launch and am in need of some advice with my character. Before I get to my problems, I'll lay out my character's details:

18 Nord Barbarian (The Warrior Birthsign)
322 Health, 70 Magicka, 317 Fatigue

107 Strength
35 Intelligence
46 Willpower
65 Agility
97 Speed
100 Endurance
34 Personality
58 Luck

He's a journeymen in Armorer, Athletics, Block and Light Armor, and an expert in Blade. The aforementioned skills are all under Major Skills. Right now I'm using a Glass Longsword, but I've also got a Claymore of Fire and a Longsword of the Dynamo I occasionally use. So far, my problems have been as follows:

Using the enchanted weapons seems to be far too expensive to be feasible. I understand that you can cast Soul Trap on enemies to fill Soul Gems, but I don't have enough Magicka to cast Soul Trap. So that leaves me with my crappy Glass Longsword which seems like it isn't doing the job. It takes seemingly forever to take down enemies. And I seem to suck at combat, because I can't take on more than a couple enemies at a time without having to rest afterwards. Is that normal? Or do I just suck? And for what it's worth, with a shield my characters defense is 33.

I guess I'm kind of at a loss at what to do. Did I just build my character poorly or do I need better equipment? In your experiences, are melee characters less fun to play than mages or stealth-based characters?

[RelentlessRolento]

I've been playing this game off and on since launch and am in need of some advice with my character. Before I get to my problems, I'll lay out my character's details:

18 Nord Barbarian (The Warrior Birthsign)
322 Health, 70 Magicka, 317 Fatigue

107 Strength
35 Intelligence
46 Willpower
65 Agility
97 Speed
100 Endurance
34 Personality
58 Luck

He's a journeymen in Armorer, Athletics, Block and Light Armor, and an expert in Blade. The aforementioned skills are all under Major Skills. Right now I'm using a Glass Longsword, but I've also got a Claymore of Fire and a Longsword of the Dynamo I occasionally use. So far, my problems have been as follows:

Using the enchanted weapons seems to be far too expensive to be feasible. I understand that you can cast Soul Trap on enemies to fill Soul Gems, but I don't have enough Magicka to cast Soul Trap. So that leaves me with my crappy Glass Longsword which seems like it isn't doing the job. It takes seemingly forever to take down enemies. And I seem to suck at combat, because I can't take on more than a couple enemies at a time without having to rest afterwards. Is that normal? Or do I just suck? And for what it's worth, with a shield my characters defense is 33.

I guess I'm kind of at a loss at what to do. Did I just build my character poorly or do I need better equipment? In your experiences, are melee characters less fun to play than mages or stealth-based characters?


don't worry, alot of that happened to me as well... just don't focus too much on recharging an enchanted weapon over a weapon with better damage. Personally I use shortswords or longswords since there damage and speed are good.

Best way to fix your soul trap problem is to either a) buy wizards tower and make your own custom spells to soul trap for less magic, or b) work on joining the mages guild to get acces to the university... in there you can make your own spells as well.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

I've been playing this game off and on since launch and am in need of some advice with my character. Before I get to my problems, I'll lay out my character's details:

18 Nord Barbarian (The Warrior Birthsign)
322 Health, 70 Magicka, 317 Fatigue

107 Strength
35 Intelligence
46 Willpower
65 Agility
97 Speed
100 Endurance
34 Personality
58 Luck

He's a journeymen in Armorer, Athletics, Block and Light Armor, and an expert in Blade. The aforementioned skills are all under Major Skills. Right now I'm using a Glass Longsword, but I've also got a Claymore of Fire and a Longsword of the Dynamo I occasionally use. So far, my problems have been as follows:

Using the enchanted weapons seems to be far too expensive to be feasible. I understand that you can cast Soul Trap on enemies to fill Soul Gems, but I don't have enough Magicka to cast Soul Trap. So that leaves me with my crappy Glass Longsword which seems like it isn't doing the job. It takes seemingly forever to take down enemies. And I seem to suck at combat, because I can't take on more than a couple enemies at a time without having to rest afterwards. Is that normal? Or do I just suck? And for what it's worth, with a shield my characters defense is 33.

I guess I'm kind of at a loss at what to do. Did I just build my character poorly or do I need better equipment? In your experiences, are melee characters less fun to play than mages or stealth-based characters?
Very nice setup. My level 15 Dunmer Warrior/Mage is using an Elven Longsword (which I'm going to enchant), a Dwemer sheild, and the Imperial Dragon Armor from the main quest,

Also, what armor are you using?

[felixlighter]

jfunkdpg,

If you cannot cast a Soul Trap spell because you don't have enough Magicka build up your characters Intelligence by casting low level conjuration and mysticism spells (especially mysticism try to get it to at least leave 25). The best place for low level spells is the bargain spells shop in the imperial city. Just get bound dagger for conjuration and the lowest level life detect spell for mysticism. If he has a cheap Soul Trap spell that takes less magic then the one you currently have pick that up too.

If you kept the Azura stone, recharging your enchanted weapons won't be a problem at all, otherwise you will have to use soul gems which isn't a big deal. The low level soul trap spell won't take much to cast if you get your mysticism up and bump up your characters intelligence. If your willpower was higher you'd be happier too because that determines how fast your magic refreshes.

Hope that helps you out.

P.S. By the way, you are right near the level where you will start seeing some ebony and daedric weapons and armor, which are more powerful than glass. So don't be discouraged if you cannot use enchanted weapons.

[jfunkdpg]

Very nice setup. My level 15 Dunmer Warrior/Mage is using an Elven Longsword (which I'm going to enchant), a Dwemer sheild, and the Imperial Dragon Armor from the main quest,

Also, what armor are you using?
My quipment is as follows:

Glass Longsword
Elven Cuirass
Greaves of Resilient Flesh (Resist Disease and Poison 50%, Resist Normal Weapons 11%)
Gauntlets of Blinding Speed (Fortify Agility, Speed, and Luck 8 points)
Helm of Oreyn Bearclaw (Fortify Agility and Endurance 10 points)
Boots of Bloody Bounty (Fortify Acrobatics and Blade 10 points)
Solid Shield (Shield 12% on self)
Cruelty's Heart Amulet (Fortify Willpower and Strength 10 points)
Mind and Body Ring (Reflect Damage 8%, Fortify Strength 8 points)
Black Band (Fortify Light Armor and Security 10 points, Resist Magic 10%)

How does that look?

[doc_zaius]

I'm deep in the clutches of Oblivion right now and I wanted to see what other folks have fun doing besides the quests or dungeons...



My favorite activities...



- Horseback Riding (Barbie Horse Adventures!!) from town to town....sometimes trailing a bear or mountain lion behind me and trying to get an Imperial to kill it for me. Even better if other characters ride with me!

- Bare-knuckle boxing in the Arena. I love to knock down some dude coming at me with a big-ass sword.

- Betting at the Arena was fun but I wish you could bet more than 100. I would love to see Bethesda make a whole handicapping mini game out of this, let me know about the warriors before I bet on them!

- walking through the forest, picking flowers

- diving and looking for underwater secrets






(is there another thread on this?)

[LinkinPrime]

FYI: We have an offical Oblivion thread here: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86221&highlight=oblivion

[doc_zaius]

thanks for steering me in the right direction!

[doc_zaius]

Anyone know of a good site for reviews of the various downloads?

[Rei no Otaku]

The only two I say you should definitely get are Mehrune's Razor and Knights of the Nine. They add lengthy quests. Then you can grab one of the lairs for whatever type of character you have. Like if you use a lot of magic I'd suggest getting Frostcrag Spire. Vampires will want the Vile Lair. Also if you use magic grab the spell tomes download.

[LinkinPrime]

If you can get your hands on the OXM for 2/2007 they got Thieves Den and Wizard's Tower on the disc for free (or purchase w/mag).

[CocheseUGA]

Apparently the dupe trick doesn't work after the patch. Damn. I have no money, I'm stuck in Oblivion and I'm low on gas.

[RelentlessRolento]

Apparently the dupe trick doesn't work after the patch. Damn. I have no money, I'm stuck in Oblivion and I'm low on gas.


just play the game regularly then... by the time you complete one or 2 dungeons, you'll realize you've made a bundle of cash.

[Rei no Otaku]

just play the game regularly then... by the time you complete one or 2 dungeons, you'll realize you've made a bundle of cash.
Very true. I never did any tricks for money, nor even went out of my way to make any and I'm loaded. The best money maker is the arena. Get to grand champion and you can make over 3K a week in fights.

[CocheseUGA]

just play the game regularly then... by the time you complete one or 2 dungeons, you'll realize you've made a bundle of cash.

I don't care about cash, I just need a new sword. And it completely doesn't work.

[Reality's Fringe]

I stumbled on the "dupe" trick entirely by accident, and I use it to great comic effect. I like duping 20 or so of those "Mother's Head" s that are from the traitor of the Dark Brotherhood's hideout and just kicking them around. Dungeon crawling gets boring, so you gotta make your own fun sometimes.

[CocheseUGA]

OK, I assume since I can't get the two guys in Imperial Corruption over 70 I need to go influence more people?

[felixlighter]

OK, I assume since I can't get the two guys in Imperial Corruption over 70 I need to go influence more people?

A charm spell should work.

[CocheseUGA]

A charm spell should work.

Suppose so. I wonder how I got the lady over 70 the first time, and them I can't get past 65 (maxed). I must be a ladies man. :)

[Rei no Otaku]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/762/762115p1.html

A hands-on preview of the expansion. I can't wait!!

[CAG 79]

What is the easiest way to get the 100% Chameleon? I already have access to the Arcane University since I'm the top mage now.

[Kaijufan]

What is the easiest way to get the 100% Chameleon? I already have access to the Arcane University since I'm the top mage now.
I've never done it, but I believe that you give 5 different pieces of armor you wear 20% chameleon each.

[pimpinc333]

I'm a bit stuck on my game. I am tring to finish up on the Theives Guild. I just got a new fence and a new chick lizard person to report to. She said I need to fence atleast 200 gold worth of stuff and I did about 3K maybe even more. Everytime I talk to her I get the same reply. She doesn't give me a new mission or anything. Could I have an old existing mission I'm not seeing? I pop the Theives Mission up and the red arrows lead me right to the Lizard lady and my lizard fence.

If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Mattte]

I'm a bit stuck on my game. I am tring to finish up on the Theives Guild. I just got a new fence and a new chick lizard person to report to. She said I need to fence atleast 200 gold worth of stuff and I did about 3K maybe even more. Everytime I talk to her I get the same reply. She doesn't give me a new mission or anything. Could I have an old existing mission I'm not seeing? I pop the Theives Mission up and the red arrows lead me right to the Lizard lady and my lizard fence.

If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

They come to you when you have to fence so much for a mission don't they? I just fenced a bunch of crap in the beginning and enough for each mission person and they came to me each time.

[pimpinc333]

They come to you when you have to fence so much for a mission don't they? I just fenced a bunch of crap in the beginning and enough for each mission person and they came to me each time.

I found the mission I was missing. Thanks.

[deadite76]

Shivering Isles is set for release on the 27th of March for PC and 360:

http://xbox360.qj.net/Oblivion-Shivering-Isles-to-be-released-on-March-27-PC-and-Xbox-360/pg/49/aid/85297

[Rei no Otaku]

Shivering Isles is set for release on the 27th of March for PC and 360:

http://xbox360.qj.net/Oblivion-Shivering-Isles-to-be-released-on-March-27-PC-and-Xbox-360/pg/49/aid/85297
I'm glad it'll be out a lot sooner than I expected. The only thing is that my backlog is going to get larger since this will occupy all my time.

[PyroGamer]

Shivering Isles is set for release on the 27th of March for PC and 360:

http://xbox360.qj.net/Oblivion-Shivering-Isles-to-be-released-on-March-27-PC-and-Xbox-360/pg/49/aid/85297
Oh SWEET!

How much is it gonna be?

[Damian]

Oh SWEET!

How much is it gonna be?
2400 pointsfor 360 (so $30 retail). Forever. It's XBLA only so it will never drop in price. That really sucks. Maybe it will be bundled with Oblivion retail some day, but the 360 version isn't planned as a retail release.

[PyroGamer]

2400 pointsfor 360 (so $30 retail). Forever. It's XBLA only so it will never drop in price. That really sucks. Maybe it will be bundled with Oblivion retail some day, but the 360 version isn't planned as a retail release.
Whoa whoa whoa!!!!

$30 for an expansion like this? Does it double the size of the fucking game? I was expecting $20, 1600 points.

[CAG 79]

2400 pointsfor 360 (so $30 retail). Forever. It's XBLA only so it will never drop in price. That really sucks. Maybe it will be bundled with Oblivion retail some day, but the 360 version isn't planned as a retail release.

Has that been confirmed? I was hoping it would be 1600 pts. a.k.a. $20.

[Rei no Otaku]

Whoa whoa whoa!!!!

$30 for an expansion like this? Does it double the size of the fucking game? I was expecting $20, 1600 points.
That's about the normal price of an expansion. Not to mention it supposedly having 30+ hours of play. That's more than I get out of most $60 games.

[mr ryles]

thats an acceptable price, but I will likely not get it.

[PyroGamer]

Ah fuck! It's true!

This is the same amount I payed for the game itself six months ago!

Goddamnit I fucking hate digital distribution.



I want this so much! I was expecting to spend $20 on it, but $30 is just so much. Oh god, I hate this.

[Mr Unoriginal]

If this is truly 30 hours I may bite, but for $30 it better damn well come close to doubling the land area of the original game. I don't necessarily want 30 hours of the same dungeon, I had enough of that my first play through. I'd rather more interesting missions like the Thieves and Dark Brotherhood Guild quests.

[seanr1221]

30.00 to me sounds about right.

[deadite76]

Has that been confirmed? I was hoping it would be 1600 pts. a.k.a. $20.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/771/771434p1.html

[Technique]

Keep in mind though, there will probably be a GOTY Edition for Oblivion that includes all the expansions and what not further down the line. They did it for Morrowind so I'm sure they'll figure something out for Oblivion.

[RelentlessRolento]

it's not XBL only... it's been confirmed now that it will be available via retail for people without live... also confirmed is a GOTY version with all the downloadable stuff as well as shivering.

[Brak]

it's not XBL only... it's been confirmed now that it will be available via retail for people without live... also confirmed is a GOTY version with all the downloadable stuff as well as shivering.
It's been confirmed as being part of a bundle with Oblivion and past DLC -- not as an individual disc.

[mr ryles]

It's been confirmed as being part of a bundle with Oblivion and past DLC -- not as an individual disc.

I might just wait for that.

[RelentlessRolento]

It's been confirmed as being part of a bundle with Oblivion and past DLC -- not as an individual disc.


this is what I've seen so you could be right or wrong:

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03/08/shivering-isles-to-be-released-at-retail/

[Kaijufan]

I might wait for the retail release since I started a new game and I want to finish everything before I play the expansion.

[Brak]

this is what I've seen so you could be right or wrong:

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03/08/shivering-isles-to-be-released-at-retail/
When asked how Oblivion fans who don't have Xbox Live could get the Shivering Isles expansion pack, Nesmith admitted that they were working on a retail version.

Segway into admitted retail version:

According to Nesmith, there will be a new special edition of Oblivion available at retail that will include all of the previously released content including the new Shivering Isles expansion. He also went on to say that there will be more downloadable content for Oblivion in the near future.
Then the blog, who interprets the same way I do, gives the reader two choices:
So, does this sway your decision to download Shivering Isles by just selling your current copy of Oblivion and purchasing the new special edition when it releases? Or are you happy with downloading the expansion and having it stored on your hard drive?

[mr ryles]

I missed out on half the old content, so I wouldn't mind getting the new edition since it will have all the downloadable content on the disk.

[CAG 79]

Well if that's the case then I'm going to sell my current copy and just wait until that GOTY edition with all of the expansion packs comes out.

[Kaijufan]

So is this retail disk Oblivion plus the content, or is it like the Halo 2 map pack disk that just copied the maps to your hard drive?
I thought it was like the Halo 2 disk, but after reading some of the comments from other CAGs I'm not so sure.

[Zoglog]

New Patch released (1.2)

http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_patchnotes6.htm#9

6. Update 1.2 Notes

New Features

10 new Xbox 360 Achievements for Shivering Isles

Bug Fixes

Improved LOD visual quality for landscape.

Optimizations to file loading system.

Taking items from dead owned creatures is no longer a crime.

Fixed issue where lock/unlocked states on doors would occasionally be stored incorrectly in a save game.

NPCs no longer pop into view after player cancels out from the Wait menu.

Fixed memory leak with sitting in a chair multiple times.

The reflection from the environment map in windows now displays properly.

Fixed an issue where player is still in combat even though the creature is no longer present.

Player can no longer fast travel when paralyzed.

Fixed infinite dialogue loop when arrested by guards who have high disposition to you.

Fixed issue where guards would not properly report crime if they were pickpocketed.

Summoned creatures properly fade away when they are created from a leveled list.

Fixed issue where stolen items would lose their stolen status if the player character was female.

Fixed crash that would occur with NPCs loading in with arrows.

Pickup sound effects no longer play during the loading screen.

If you attack a creature owned by you, crime is no longer reported.

Fixed issue with LOD not loading in properly when entering/exiting worldspaces.

Fixed infinite soul gems exploit by dropping and picking up stacked soul gems.

Fixed a crash with summoning a creature and immediately exiting the cell.

Fixed a crash with stealing an object, exiting and immediately
re-entering an interior.

Fixed issue where an NPC would occasionally not perform the proper idle animation.

Fixed an occasional crash when a creature loses detection on the player.

Fixed an occasional crash with NPCs who were not loaded going into combat.

Quest Fixes

In Light the Dragonfires, fixed issue where improper journal would appear if you closed an Oblivion gate.

In Till Death do They Part, fixed an issue where Melisande would not properly give you Cure Vampirism potion.

There seems to be a noticeable performance boost and longer draw distances.

[pimpinc333]

Is the patch out now? Sorry if I didn't see a date.

[Zoglog]

it is indeed out right now

[Scobie]

Man, I really want that combo pack with the d/l content. I'm sure it'll be upwards of $100, but that's saving a fair amount off of the d/l price and CAG should help to make it even cheaper. Glad I haven't picked it up yet!

[rabbitt]

That's a pretty hefty patch. Nice.

[seanr1221]

Man, I really want that combo pack with the d/l content. I'm sure it'll be upwards of $100, but that's saving a fair amount off of the d/l price and CAG should help to make it even cheaper. Glad I haven't picked it up yet!

I really doubt it will be 100.00 retail.

[Scobie]

I really doubt it will be 100.00 retail.

With the latest expansion, they're closing in on $60 of additional content having been added to the game:

Shivering Isles: 2400 Pts
Knights of the Nine: 800 Pts
Spell Tome Treasures: 80 Pts
Vile Lair: 150 Pts
Mehrune's Razor: 250 Pts
Thieves Den: 150 Pts
Wizard's Tower: 150 Pts
Orrery: 150 Pts
Horse Armor: 200 Pts

4330 total MS Points

If they bundle all that in plus another expansion that's sure to come out before the end of the years for $100, it'll kinda look like a bargain to people like me who've been holding off on a purchase, and will also be at a pricepoint that won't offend the tens of thousands of current players who've already sunk their money down for the d/l's.

[jer7583]

Load times are almost twice what they were before the patch, anyone having this problem? the outdoor areas look real nice, but load times between indoor areas are unbearable.

Maybe my roomate's copy of the game is just too scratched or something...

[Surferflames]

Load times are almost twice what they were before the patch, anyone having this problem? the outdoor areas look real nice, but load times between indoor areas are unbearable.

Maybe my roomate's copy of the game is just too scratched or something...

Have you tried that "hold A" trick or whatever it was to clear the games cache? I noticed my load times went up bigtime after playing many other games inbetween oblivion sessions. I am going to try it out later, but maybe it will work.

[Rei no Otaku]

Load times are almost twice what they were before the patch, anyone having this problem? the outdoor areas look real nice, but load times between indoor areas are unbearable.

Maybe my roomate's copy of the game is just too scratched or something...
Load times are the same for me. Must be his copy.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'll update in a bit... nice. so next Wed shivirng will be available?

[Rei no Otaku]

I'll update in a bit... nice. so next Wed shivirng will be available?
Tuesday and not until like 6:00. Stupid maintenance...

[seanr1221]

With the latest expansion, they're closing in on $60 of additional content having been added to the game:

Shivering Isles: 2400 Pts
Knights of the Nine: 800 Pts
Spell Tome Treasures: 80 Pts
Vile Lair: 150 Pts
Mehrune's Razor: 250 Pts
Thieves Den: 150 Pts
Wizard's Tower: 150 Pts
Orrery: 150 Pts
Horse Armor: 200 Pts

4330 total MS Points

If they bundle all that in plus another expansion that's sure to come out before the end of the years for $100, it'll kinda look like a bargain to people like me who've been holding off on a purchase, and will also be at a pricepoint that won't offend the tens of thousands of current players who've already sunk their money down for the d/l's.

And the casual fan will think...why the hell is a game 100.00

[RelentlessRolento]

I barely noticed much from the update, but I did realize that the loading times weren't as choppy when gong from one area to the next... actually, everything seemed to load better.

[Zoglog]

lol, funny they still havent fixed my bug with the Thieves guild quest at the very end so I can never get that achievment hah. Basically the dood talks to the lady and then he walks off but my char is stuck there forever and the strangest part is that the lady goes back to her chair and sits backwards. Oh well............

[jer7583]

the cache thing cleared it up, loads real fast now and looks very nice.

[hootie]

No more fuck ing duping from the patch? fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck !!!!!!!

[Rei no Otaku]

No more fuck ing duping from the patch? fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck !!!!!!!
Sucks when you have to play the game the way it's supposed to be played huh?

[Bezerker]

you can always just delete the patch...

[Surferflames]

Well after months of having Oblivion sit in the case, I booted up my original character(who never did the storyline.) And all is well except it I try to get anywhere near cloudruler temple the damn thing locks up. fast travel freezes during load, and running freezes at an invisible area. Cleaned the disc, cleared patches, and still nothing. Might have to call and see if Rhino still honors the lifetime warranty with receipt now that they are GS..

edit: Well apparently randomly filling your cache with other stuff fixes the problem. Played a few other 360 games and now it loads fine..go figure.

[hootie]

Sucks when you have to play the game the way it's supposed to be played huh?

If I want to dupe stuff to let me enjoy the game more, what's the big problem? I paid $63 damn dollars to play the game, I think I should be able to dupe if I want. :roll:

[Damian]

Sucks when you have to play the game the way it's supposed to be played huh?
If there's no multiplayer aspect to a game, who cares?

[Rei no Otaku]

I never said there was a problem. Dupe away. I don't give a shit. I was just pointing out that it's funny that you complain about not being able to exploit a glitch, that's all.

[Reality's Fringe]

Recently restarted a play through in anticipation of shivering Isles....unfortunately, I don't have Live because the Wifi adapter is like $100.

Damn it.

[pimpinc333]

Recently restarted a play through in anticipation of shivering Isles....unfortunately, I don't have Live because the Wifi adapter is like $100.

Damn it.

I thought your a CAG? Why not buy a cheap wireless adaptor?

[ViolentLee]

I went back to my game to finish up the Thieves Guild stuff and get all 1000 achievements. Total play time: 185+ hours. I was surprised it took me a while to get reaccustomed to the controls, but it had been about 8 monhts since I last played.

With that done, turns out I'm reviewing Shivering Isles. Looking forward to it, obviously -- especially since I've basically put Crackdown to bed.

[deadite76]

SI is up under "all downloads".

[Scorch]

Yep.. looks like Shivering Isles went up early

[pimpinc333]

Yep It's there.

[RelentlessRolento]

SI is up under "all downloads".


sweet! As soon as I saw your post, I ran to my room and started downloading. yay!

hope it's worth the 2400 points.

[Rei no Otaku]

Yes!! Downloading now.

[Zoglog]

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/03/26/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-shivering-isles-now-available.aspx

seems rather expensive though gah...

[Surferflames]

I really want to wait on my free points to arrive, but this thing is gonna be tempting me so much now that its actually available. Must...resist...

[RelentlessRolento]

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/03/26/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-shivering-isles-now-available.aspx

seems rather expensive though gah...


As soon as I get to play it, I'll post impressions.

[Surferflames]

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/03/26/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-shivering-isles-now-available.aspx

seems rather expensive though gah...

30+ hours for ~30bucks(less with deals and such) is pretty good for a console game. It's heavy for DLC, but pretty fair for a full fledged expansion pack.

[thrustbucket]

Recently restarted a play through in anticipation of shivering Isles....unfortunately, I don't have Live because the Wifi adapter is like $100.

Damn it.

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-WGA11B-Wireless-B-Game-Adapter/dp/B0000AJVBW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/102-7801681-1677764?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1174959262&sr=8-2

(I swear this is like the 45th time I've posted that link.)

[mykevermin]

You could wait for the Platinum Hits version, which may have all the downloadable options, for around $30. It may hit by the end of this year or early next.

$30 for downloadable content? No thanks. I didn't bite on Tekken 5, and I'm not biting on this.

[pimpinc333]

You could wait for the Platinum Hits version, which may have all the downloadable options, for around $30. It may hit by the end of this year or early next.

$30 for downloadable content? No thanks. I didn't bite on Tekken 5, and I'm not biting on this.

Tekken 5? Did I miss something?

[mykevermin]

Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection is a downloadable title for the PS3, but it's $20. Sorry for any confusion, I was just griping about the high prices of downloadable content across all platforms.

[ViolentLee]

Downloading it now. I imagine it went up today since Live is going to be down for maintenance tomorrow (not sure how long or what times).

[Rei no Otaku]

Downloading it now. I imagine it went up today since Live is going to be down for maintenance tomorrow (not sure how long or what times).
From Major Nelson:
P.S. Thanks to everyone on the team who worked to get this [Shivering Isles] out before the Xbox Live Maintenance so that you would have something to do during the downtime.
So yup, you're right.

Just played it for a few hours, and been having fun. I started forging my madness armor, and it looks damn cool. I hope I can find the sword matrix soon. Hopefully it'll be more powerful than Umbra. Also after I beat the Gatekeeper I had the choice to go to Mania or Dementia. I chose Dementia, and was wondering if you can eventually go to both or if it's a permanant choice. I think I'll try to backtrack later.

[mr ryles]

part of me wants to download this, but the other part of me knows I will never get around to playing it.

[Calamityuponthee]

Going to take 2 hours to download at this point.. oh well.

[TrenoV]

So far i'm loving this, very dark and morbid.

[modium]

I'm really impressed so far. It seems way more substantial than I ever expected. I love the design of the new places and enemies, and don't even get me started on the tone. ;)

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... the beauty is amazing in this game... so far it's as if you took oblivion and set it further into the fantasy realm. Also, when you get to sheogorath, save your game. Then hit him and you'll get some kicks ;)

[Zoglog]

30+ hours for ~30bucks(less with deals and such) is pretty good for a console game. It's heavy for DLC, but pretty fair for a full fledged expansion pack.

From reviews I read it's more like 18 Hours, and often times I find myself chugging through things faster than that. Like knights of the Nine did not take 10 hours for sure. That's why i'm a bit skeptical. Also all the dungeons in all the expansions pretty much have looked the same which really bugs me. Don't get me wrong, I love oblivion and played it to death, but after awhile the dungeons get so repetitive and the environments feel stale.

Now my question is if the environments in shivering isles are actually quite different looking or are they just redesigned dungeons like we saw in all the other packs like knights of the nine?

[thrustbucket]

part of me wants to download this, but the other part of me knows I will never get around to playing it.

Yup, me too. Same with symphony of the night.

[ViolentLee]

I downloaded this and now have been trying to boot it up. However, I'm stuck at the title screen with a window up that says "Loading extra content. Please wait." It was like that for a good 20 minutes. Figuring it was locked up, I turned off the 360 and restarted. Now it's back stuck on that screen. Any advice?

With no Live for the near future and me leaving for several days on Wednesday, I'm already pressed for time to review this beast. I really don't want to have to delete that big ol' file, but I also don't want to lose my 185 hours of play time on my saves.

EDIT: I cleared my cache and it worked. Here's how to do it, should you encounter the same problem: Go to the system blade and then memory. Press Y on the HDD, then press X, X, Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X, X. Once you do this a blade will pop up saying: This will perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices. Do you want to continue? Pick yes or no.

EDIT 2: Okay, the game works now, but I don't think it's recognizing SI. The Download section is grayed out under Options, and I waited about 5 in-game "days" for SI to start, which it didn't.

[Graystone]

$30 bucks is steep. Thats a used 360 game. I don't know I'm going to have to get super hyped to buy it.

[Surferflames]

EDIT 2: Okay, the game works now, but I don't think it's recognizing SI. The Download section is grayed out under Options, and I waited about 5 in-game "days" for SI to start, which it didn't.

Well you have a tiny problem. From experience, DLC seems to require one of the patches, which have all been cleared by clearing your cache. So you have to wait for live to go back online to get the latest patch, then it will recognize all your DLC again. If you happen to have any content already (mehrunes razor, etc.) and you have an item from it, DO NOT save as you will lose the items once you get things working.

[Scobie]

Oh that's fuggin' tedious... so for $30, Bethesda couldn't have been bothered to sort this stuff out prior to launch?

[LinkinPrime]

Your best bet is to get two 1200pts cards at Best Buy with a GGC that way the expansion comes out to be about $23

[Scorch]

Your best bet is to get two 1200pts cards at Best Buy with a GGC that way the expansion comes out to be about $23

you mean 1600? Do they even make 1200 point cards?

[Surferflames]

Oh that's fuggin' tedious... so for $30, Bethesda couldn't have been bothered to sort this stuff out prior to launch?

well they did..via a patch. But if you delete the patches and have to redownload them, you kinda need live to be up and running.

[LinkinPrime]

you mean 1600? Do they even make 1200 point cards?

Yeah....sorry thats what I meant.

[Rei no Otaku]

Just finished Xedilian. That was hilarious. Dispatching the adventurers was entertaining. Also got the Dawnfang/Duskfang sword, and it's pretty kickass.

[ViolentLee]

Well you have a tiny problem. From experience, DLC seems to require one of the patches, which have all been cleared by clearing your cache. So you have to wait for live to go back online to get the latest patch, then it will recognize all your DLC again. If you happen to have any content already (mehrunes razor, etc.) and you have an item from it, DO NOT save as you will lose the items once you get things working.
You sound just like my contact at Bethesda who called me after I emailed him about it! Apparently, Microsoft jumped the gun by putting the game up yesterday. As I hadn't played Oblivion since the new patch went up, I was unable to get SI to work. This, after sleeping about 12 days in-game and starting a whole new game, escaping the Imperial Sewers, and sleeping a few more days. Sometimes gaming can be a pain in my ass...

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for later this afternoon when Live goes...well, live.

[RelentlessRolento]

I played a bit last night and I already am liking it more than the regular Oblivion quests... mainly because it seems the devs could do anything they wanted in the game this time around. The NPCs are alot more interesting as well and it's nice to hear a different voice set finally.

[RelentlessRolento]

Now my question is if the environments in shivering isles are actually quite different looking or are they just redesigned dungeons like we saw in all the other packs like knights of the nine?


To answer your question: everything other than game mechanics is pretty much entirely new... nothing looks familiar at all from all that I have played... including the dungeons.

[cleaver]

Can someone refresh my memory on how to clear the cache, or did they fix that with an update.

[Surferflames]

Can someone refresh my memory on how to clear the cache, or did they fix that with an update.
easiest way(without having to time pressing a button with the game loading) is:

at the dashboard go to the system blade > memory. highlight your hdd and press Y.

Then press the following code in. X X Left Bumper Right Bumper X X. It will ask you if you want to clear the cache , choose yes. All this does basically is delete all the patches and temp stuff. Any DLC and saves will not be harmed at all. Load times may be a bit longer at first, while it recaches things.

edit: I personally can never time the "Hold A" method properly for it to work.

[ViolentLee]

Can someone refresh my memory on how to clear the cache, or did they fix that with an update.
Not to be a tool, but it was literally on the SAME PAGE as your post. Open thine game-weary eyes.

[Surferflames]

Anyone know how to go about moving an NPC that has decided to pace back and forth instead of leading me to the area he wants me to go? This quest NPC just goes up and down the stairs over and over. Can't interact with him any futher than I have, and I can't push him off.

I even tried punching the guy, but now all he does is pace up and down with his sword drawn.

[cleaver]

easiest way(without having to time pressing a button with the game loading) is:

at the dashboard go to the system blade > memory. highlight your hdd and press Y.

Then press the following code in. X X Left Bumper Right Bumper X X. It will ask you if you want to clear the cache , choose yes. All this does basically is delete all the patches and temp stuff. Any DLC and saves will not be harmed at all. Load times may be a bit longer at first, while it recaches things.
Thanks, that helps, but I was looking for something like you hold some button when the Bethesda Software logo comes up

[Technique]

Thanks, that helps, but I was looking for something like you hold some button when the Bethesda Software logo comes up

Hold A. It does the exact same thing Surferflames posted.

[RelentlessRolento]

Anyone know how to go about moving an NPC that has decided to pace back and forth instead of leading me to the area he wants me to go? This quest NPC just goes up and down the stairs over and over. Can't interact with him any futher than I have, and I can't push him off.

I even tried punching the guy, but now all he does is pace up and down with his sword drawn.

was it the torture guy? I had the same problem, so I hit "Back" and waited 1 hour in game... he cleared that area immediately.

[Surferflames]

was it the torture guy? I had the same problem, so I hit "Back" and waited 1 hour in game... he cleared that area immediately.

Actually it was a guy toward the end of the fighters guild quest. "Infiltration"

Anyway i put on "the cowl" and knocked him accross the room with a heavy swing. When he regained consciousness the pathing reset. I tried this after waiting, coming back a few days later, rebooting, etc.

Just plain killing him wouldnt work, had to litterally get him off the damn staircase.

[RelentlessRolento]

this is helpful for shiviring:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Shivering_Isles

[PINKO]

im going to buy this game from a cager

in anticipation

i went ms points crazy today

I already had downloaded merunes razor from when they were giving it away

I downloaded

Knights of the Nine

Spell Tomes

Thieves den

Wizards Tower

This week im going to by a 1600 point card so i can get shiviring isles

[hootie]

you should've passed on the Spell Tomes and got Vile Lair instead.

I've heard that there are only 2 really good spells that you can't make in the game without it. (One being a Summon Bear spell I think)

[RiCeBo1]

Can someone snap a picture of how this game looks in HD on an LCD monitor or TV? For some reason when I played this game it looks like crap on my LCD computer monitor compared to other games like DJ: Icon or NBA: Homecourt. It may be due to the fact that it was a launch title, but it shouldn't look THAT bad.

[RelentlessRolento]

Can someone snap a picture of how this game looks in HD on an LCD monitor or TV? For some reason when I played this game it looks like crap on my LCD computer monitor compared to other games like DJ: Icon or NBA: Homecourt. It may be due to the fact that it was a launch title, but it shouldn't look THAT bad.


watch the HD trailers:

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=4497

[Matt Young]

Over 40 hours into the game, I should know this, but are you free to take any weapons from the Fighter's Guild for personal use? I noticed it says "Take" rather than "Steal" on such items.

[Surferflames]

Over 40 hours into the game, I should know this, but are you free to take any weapons from the Fighter's Guild for personal use? I noticed it says "Take" rather than "Steal" on such items.

As long as there is no little red hand icon when you go to take it, you can without any problems.

[RelentlessRolento]

for all guilds, once you join, most items are free... just hands off items owned y the big shots int the guilds.

[Technique]

Can someone snap a picture of how this game looks in HD on an LCD monitor or TV? For some reason when I played this game it looks like crap on my LCD computer monitor compared to other games like DJ: Icon or NBA: Homecourt. It may be due to the fact that it was a launch title, but it shouldn't look THAT bad.

It wasn't a launch title, but it was sort of in the launch window (March 20, 2006.)

[RiCeBo1]

watch the HD trailers:

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=4497
Wow...I don't know what it is but my visuals do not look that clear.

[life.exe]

Wow...I don't know what it is but my visuals do not look that clear.

Check you A/V plug on the back of the 360. Put the switch on the opposite of whatever it is on now and see what happens.

[RiCeBo1]

Check you A/V plug on the back of the 360. Put the switch on the opposite of whatever it is on now and see what happens.
It's through VGA through a computer LCD monitor.

[Brak]

Did they release a patch this morning? I just downloaded an auto-update.

[CaptNink]

Did they release a patch this morning? I just downloaded an auto-update.

Not sure, but it could be to fix the problems caused by SHivering Isles.

[Mr. Anderson]

Where's the cheapest place to get Oblivion? It's still $54.99 used at EB, which is just heinous.

[mykevermin]

I think someone posted a link to it being $50 new online in the deals forum.

[mr ryles]

Where's the cheapest place to get Oblivion? It's still $54.99 used at EB, which is just heinous.

I think it is $50 new at amazon.

[SteveMcQ]

$50 next week at Best Buy as well is it not? Even better if you've got a GGC or those coupons in that coupon pack thread still work.

[Roufuss]

Shivering Isles for the PC just got patched, the item bug is now fixed... hopefully this means a patch coming for you 360 folk as well.

It might be the one Brak was talking about.

[PINKO]

Where's the cheapest place to get Oblivion? It's still $54.99 used at EB, which is just heinous.

i just got one from a cag for 36 shipped

[strdr4]

Has anyone called Microsoft about getting dirty disc error? If so, what was the result?

I've been getting DDEs, but now it seems like I've come to an immediate involuntary stop. I'm trying to do the first Brotherhood quest. I'm at the Ill Omen Inn and after a few seconds, the game freeze and is unreadable. I can't get out, can't talk to anyone.

What should I do to solve this problem? I tried clearing the cache, but the result was nil.
My xbox is still under warranty btw and never had this problem with any other game.

[Apossum]

nobody's really discussing this in the PS3 forum, so I thought I'd ask here. Anyone have suggestions for any good non-quest related caves or places to explore? I only have the main game since there aren't expansions for the ps3 one yet.

[RelentlessRolento]

nobody's really discussing this in the PS3 forum, so I thought I'd ask here. Anyone have suggestions for any good non-quest related caves or places to explore? I only have the main game since there aren't expansions for the ps3 one yet.


not really... I will say that deadric quests net you some nice stuff. Never loose that Skull Key once you get it... it's an unbreakable lockpick and probably the one item I'll never stop using.

[Scobie]

So is the SI bug confirmed fixed, i.e., is it safe to play again? :)

[Apossum]

not really... I will say that deadric quests net you some nice stuff. Never loose that Skull Key once you get it... it's an unbreakable lockpick and probably the one item I'll never stop using.


I can't wait to get that thing. You get that through the Thieve's Guild, right? I just started the fighter's guild, but it seems worth it to get the skull key early on since lockpicks seem to be more scarce after the beginning of the game.

[RelentlessRolento]

I can't wait to get that thing. You get that through the Thieve's Guild, right? I just started the fighter's guild, but it seems worth it to get the skull key early on since lockpicks seem to be more scarce after the beginning of the game.


actually, the theives guild won't net you a skull key... it's one of the deadra quests... it's an easy quest and kinda fun.

[eatntae]

actually, the theives guild won't net you a skull key... it's one of the deadra quests... it's an easy quest and kinda fun.
I think you have to be at least level 10 before you start that quest though.

[Rei no Otaku]

I think you have to be at least level 10 before you start that quest though.
That is correct.

[Apossum]

damn, that would involve going up 3 levels, which I can do, but not sure if I want to do. although I'm pretty much done boosting everything up to 50.

[lordwow]

I just bought this game on Sunday along with Gears at BB with the $50 sale + $10 off 2 games.

All I have to say is Wow. I hated Morrowind, but this game is awesome. I'm not sure what changed between the two, but this game is far more enjoyable to me.

[mykevermin]

Does anyone have a link to a FAQ or webpage describing the "leveling trick" people use to get the maximum +5 for each skill?

[Apossum]

Here's an explanation from another forum Myke:

Its based on what skills you raised between the two levels. Each skill is goverened by one of the attributes. Blade is strenght, Conjuration is intelligence, sneak is agility, etc. Each time you raise a skill it increases the ammount that the governing attribute will be raised should you select it at level up. So if you want to get your intelligence higher in the next level up, raise the skills goverened by it mulitple times. I'm not sure how many it takes, but I think its +2 for the first and second skill for an attribute. Each skill raised for the attribute then adds an additional +1 up to +5. And non major skills are factored as well, so its not just the major skills that are monitored for skill raises. And if you don't level up right away, it continutes to monitor what skills are being used during the next 10 major skill increases. So if you raise your major skills 20 times between sleeping you would then raise 2 levels and the game would have kept track what skills you used during the 11-20 skills.


not sure if that's entirely accurate. I just level up skills and never sleep in the game, then when I do level up, I should get 5s.

[mykevermin]

Thanks. I figured it would be something like that. I don't believe that you level up more than once if you sleep one time, so something in that quote may be inaccurate (or I'm a dolt).

[lordxixor101]

Apossum,

I'm not sure your right here. I have leveled up two-three levels consecutively before. I didn't get all 5's. It depends what you leveled up between those 10 primary skill level ups that matter.

I had some times where I could gain a 3 in strength, then gain another 3 in strength the next level up, as opposed to getting a 5.

I'm also not sure why everyone avoids leveling up. I like the stronger enemies. Early on, they can be a bit tough, but it's never so bad that it ruins the game (and most of the time you should be able to run away).

[Apossum]

Apossum,

I'm not sure your right here. I have leveled up two-three levels consecutively before. I didn't get all 5's. It depends what you leveled up between those 10 primary skill level ups that matter.

I had some times where I could gain a 3 in strength, then gain another 3 in strength the next level up, as opposed to getting a 5.

I'm also not sure why everyone avoids leveling up. I like the stronger enemies. Early on, they can be a bit tough, but it's never so bad that it ruins the game (and most of the time you should be able to run away).


i just copied and pasted someone else's response, but i thought it sounded plausible...I underlevelled to make sure I'm always strong enough and to make sure I get all the best equipment at each level.

speaking of which, I need to get my fix of oblivi-crack before class now :)

[MSUHitman]

Patch coming for 360 to fix game-killing bug ...

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=685238

[lordwow]

Dammit, I got the Shakes.

[hootie]

Finally, the patch!

(I just hope it doesn't get rid of the new dupe method that was found)

[qbkorso]

Are there any plans to get Shivering Isle on a disc for 360?

[RelentlessRolento]

anyone turn the game on yet and get the patch? anything noticeably different?

[terribledeli]

Are there any plans to get Shivering Isle on a disc for 360?

Pete Hines casually mentioned releasing a super edition of Oblivion containing everything down the road. But nothing serious. The general vibe given by Bethesda has been "marketplace only"

[qbkorso]

Pete Hines casually mentioned releasing a super edition of Oblivion containing everything down the road. But nothing serious. The general vibe given by Bethesda has been "marketplace only"

Grr.. I'm not a big fan of this digital download bs. I want physical objects for games.

[AshesofWake]

Shivering Isles on Disc!!!

ife is good for fans of massive fantasy worlds who haven't yet found time to see what the whole internet craze was about. Not only will The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year edition be released next week on 360 and PC, but next month you'll be able to buy a standalone disc containing the Shivering Isles expansion along with the Knights of the Nine DLC. The disc will retail for $29.99, a $10 savings over those who bought the packs through Xbox Live.

But take note of that "Storage Required" sticker on the box, you still need to have a hard drive for the expansions to live on. Those of you rocking the Core systems are unfortunately still out of luck.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/06/shivering-isles-to-get-retail-disc-on-360-in-october/

this is soooo perfect for me, i don't have Shivering Isles or Knights expansion, i can't wait >_<

[Mr. Anderson]

What will the GOTY edition of Obvlivion have?

[AshesofWake]

everything released so far, i think

[LinkinPrime]

What will the GOTY edition of Obvlivion have?

The game plus Knights of The Nine and Shivering isles for $49.99

[Callandor]

The question is, will the discs have some kind of DRM that prevents using them to install the expansions on multiple systems?

[getfckedx]

kinda sucks since i bought knights of the nine, but i haven't picked up shivering isles yet, so i'll probably buy this. the whole spending 20+ bucks on DLC thing scared me away.

[JohnnyDrama]

Nice, I'll definitely pick up the Shivering Isles/Knights of the Nine disc

[Noodle Pirate!]

Is there really that much content to justify a 30$ price tag? When I hear expansion, I think maybe a couple more hours worth of content. To me, a few hours is not worth 30$
For those of you who have played it, what price would you say it becomes a worth the money? $10? $20?

[Damian]

The game plus Knights of The Nine and Shivering isles for $49.99
Hmm, so if you can unload a regular version for more than $20, you're guaranteed to come out ahead even before finding a deal on the GOTY. Interesting.

[Damian]

But take note of that "Storage Required" sticker on the box, you still need to have a hard drive for the expansions to live on. Those of you rocking the Core systems are unfortunately still out of luck.
The "Storage Required" icon has a picture of both a hard drive and a memory card on it. If they really do plan to require the hard drive they need to come up with a better method of making that known.

[whiptcracker]

Is there really that much content to justify a 30$ price tag? When I hear expansion, I think maybe a couple more hours worth of content. To me, a few hours is not worth 30$
For those of you who have played it, what price would you say it becomes a worth the money? $10? $20?

I'd say Shivering Isles alone is worth the $30. I spent about 15-20 hours and I enjoyed the main quest much more than Oblivion, which I loved. I hear Knights of the Nine is about 10 hours long on it's own, so there's a good amount of content there.

[CAG 79]

I just want to know if you can use your previous save from the regular edition and use it in the GOTY edition.

[io]

The game plus Knights of The Nine and Shivering isles for $49.99

Is that brand new info? Everything I've seen indicates a rather sucky $59.99 price for it. I have it preordered at GC and that's what they have it for. I just checked EB and they have $59.99 also ($49.99 for PC though).

$49.99 would be really nice, but unless you have some brand new breaking news on that, I'm not expecting it to be that price. I'm only going to get it at that price because of the rumors of GC's (or, more appropriately Movie Gallery's) problems. I have a bunch of credit to burn there and don't want to lose it.

[LinkinPrime]

Is that brand new info? Everything I've seen indicates a rather sucky $59.99 price for it. I have it preordered at GC and that's what they have it for. I just checked EB and they have $59.99 also ($49.99 for PC though).

$49.99 would be really nice, but unless you have some brand new breaking news on that, I'm not expecting it to be that price. I'm only going to get it at that price because of the rumors of GC's (or, more appropriately Movie Gallery's) problems. I have a bunch of credit to burn there and don't want to lose it.

I guess I'm mistaken, I could have sworn I saw it listed somewhere for $49.99
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200356
Damn...$59.99 seems steep for an old game with DLC.

[Noodle Pirate!]

I'd say Shivering Isles alone is worth the $30. I spent about 15-20 hours and I enjoyed the main quest much more than Oblivion, which I loved. I hear Knights of the Nine is about 10 hours long on it's own, so there's a good amount of content there.

Wow that is a lot more then I thought it would be. I guess I am use to pc xpacks that only add a few more hours to the main game.
I think that may go on my "to buy" list eventually. Thanks!

[lordwow]

I guess it's time to sell off my original edition.

[62t]

Well the GOTY is out and according to people on gamefaqs, it is just the regular edition on 1 disc, and the expansion on another disc that can be copy to the HDD. It also looks like you can install the expansion multiple times.

[Decker]

Well the GOTY is out and according to people on gamefaqs, it is just the regular edition on 1 disc, and the expansion on another disc that can be copy to the HDD. It also looks like you can install the expansion multiple times.
Well, if that's trun it sucks. I was planning on saving my HD space. Plus I passed on the used Oblivion for $17 deal at EB games because I was waiting on this. Fuck.
I hope that info is wrong...