Rockstar Table Tennis

[LinkinPrime]

(formerly: New Rockstar Game for X360...Its not what you think...at all)

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/693/693369p1.html

Table Tennis WTF!?!

Update 4/6: First Gameplay Video
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/815/815145/vids_1.html

Update 5/21:
Outpost.com & Frys B&M $29.99
http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4792759?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Reviews:


Gamespot 8.5 http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/tabletennis/review.html
TeamXbox 8.5 http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1175/Rockstar-Games-Presents-Table-Tennis/p1/
IGN 7.8 http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709654p1.html

[javeryh]

That sounds awesome. 4 player matches over Live? $39.99? Sign me up.

[mmn]

Wow. Rockstar sucks.

[terribledeli]

The models look nice. Maybe its a tech piece to test out player models before the next GTA.

[shaunLEGEND]

I still keep looking at the the date and nope, it's not April 1st. This still seems like a joke to me.

maybe they are trying to change their image due to all of their previous controversy?

[Kain Vincent]

I still keep looking at the the date and nope, it's not April 1st. This still seems like a joke to me.

maybe they are trying to change their image due to all of their previous controversy?

Could be, since now would be an excellent time for them to try something new and possibly start something new.

[ryanbph]

may be good...

[neocisco]

Ping pong? Sweet, I can be the next Forrest Gump!

[Apossum]

so the object of the game is to sneak up on the table tennis players and snuff them out on video...right?

[DJSteel]

better than
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/5432/finished8ab.gif

[LinkinPrime]

so the object of the game is to sneak up on the table tennis players and snuff them out on video...right?

:rofl:

[Prepster]

Hopefully this ends up being good, because I am probably going to pick this up right away.

[Matrix2k3]

When you think about, video games started with table tennis, and there hasn't been a good table tennsi game since Pong.

[Ecofreak]

Freak yea! Have Forest Gump be a playable character and I'm sold.

[Superstar]

Looks awesome to me.

[rabbitt]

It's fuckin table tennis.

[Brak]

I can see this game being really... intense, I guess. Intense in the context of how crazy Street Fighter can get once you've mastered it. Just one of those intense niche titles that you have to train with.

I don't know if I'm for it, though. I hated playing table tennis back in high school gym class.

It'd be more appropriate if Rockstar made a wild-ass dodgeball title. Then again, I think that's included in Bully (which I can't fuckin' wait for).

[LinkinPrime]

They should have held off for the Revolution.

[Superstar]

I'm glad Rockstar is doing different things, then making the same old games all the time. It's a breath of fresh air.

[evanft]

THIS was the game IGN has been hyping all day? Fuck them.

[Vinny]

The article left out the part where the ball explodes within 3 minutes and that you left you paddle at home. You need to steal a car, go to your place, and get your paddle before the time runs out.

Also, that female player is really a hooker.

[DomLando]

I dont know, it just doesnt seem like table tennis is a good videogame.

[Brak]

I dont know, it just doesnt seem like table tennis is a good videogame.

Yeah. Pong fuckin' sucked.

[DomLando]

Pong was the only thing they could to back then. I dont really feel the need for a realistic pong.

[Superstar]

Not directing this towards anyone specifically, but from what i've been reading, people always complain about companies making the same games over and over, then when a company does something completely different, they still aren't pleased.

[mmn]

Not directing this towards anyone specifically, but from what i've been reading, people always complain about companies making the same games over and over, then when a company does something completely different, they still aren't pleased.

Rockstar is talented enough that if they wanted to make a good sports game, they could.

But to me this just looks like a "let's make a game that nobody else has really attempted yet" move. There's a reason there aren't many (or any, for that matter) table tennis games out there. Nobody wants to play them.

But hey, Rockstar could prove me wrong. I hope they do.

[DomLando]

They also said oh well its ony $39.99. To me thats still to much for a realistic version of pong. I like innovation and Im not complaining about that but its not a game that should have any hype. Its table tennis.

[Superstar]

If it plays right, I think it will be fun.

[-Never4ever-]

I swear to you, when I read that article I had to get up and check my calendar to make sure that it wasn't April first. Who knows, maybe this is their April fools joke and they accidentally posted it early?

[FrankySox]

If it plays right, I think it will be fun.
I agree, I'm actually looking foward to it. I think it would be a great game to play online if the controls work well. Only time will tell though.

[Superstar]

I swear to you, when I read that article I had to get up and check my calendar to make sure that it wasn't April first. Who knows, maybe this is their April fools joke and they accidentally posted it early?

This isn't a joke. Why would rockstar work on making models that look that amazing, for a joke?

[Graystone]

I love Virtua Tennis. I don't know if I would buy this though.

[Mr. Anderson]

This is my most wanted 360 title. Table Tennis is my favorite Flash game of all time. No joke.

[Ozzkev55]

Virtual Beer Pong?
Hidden Mini Game

[Wombat]

Some more previews are up at joystiq.com, evilavatar.com and teamxbox.com. That event sure sounds like it was fun, I wish I was invited.....

Oh wait, I was. I spent almost 5 hours playing the game, duh, My full preview on tomorrows CAGcast :)

hooray for teasers

[RedvsBlue]

Some more previews are up at joystiq.com, evilavatar.com and teamxbox.com. That event sure sounds like it was fun, I wish I was invited.....

Oh wait, I was. I spent almost 5 hours playing the game, duh, My full preview on tomorrows CAGcast :)

hooray for teasers

I thought you were being replaced by some giant pie and Footy? ;)

[mofo1115]

I'd definitely buy this game in a heartbeat.... if I had a xbox360 that is.

They should have it for other systems. =(

[SOSTrooper]

I've played table tennis since I was a kid. I'll get this game if the reviews are at least decent. I liked tennis games and Beach Spikers, so I think this game should just be as interesting.

[FaintDeftone]

First 360 sleeper hit.

Watch.

[GTmaster39]

I think this game will be the one that makes me get a 360. Damn. That was deep.

[LinkinPrime]

First gameplay video is up:

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/815/815145/vids_1.html

[Brainwave0]

April Fool's has come and gone, and yet this game is still around. I can't believe this is serious. Seems like a waste of time and effort to me. I could see if it was an arcade title, but for a full price game, I don't think so.

[jer7583]

The logo just seems too much like one of those fake logos you see around cities in GTA. What if it was a way of unveiling the next GTA, and table tennis just turns out to be one of the minigames in the new GTA..

There's my conspiracy theory for the day.

[Apossum]

compared to the other random trash games and slightly updated ports coming out for the 360, this looks like a lot of fun.

a simple competitive premise with tight controls = fun.

[Pratt75]

Yes it is table tennis but no one can deny that graphically and gameplay wise it looks really, really good. I can't believe they made a table tennis game either but it does look like it would be fun to play. If only it cost the price of one of those arcade games, that would be great.

[deadite76]

compared to the other random trash games and slightly updated ports coming out for the 360, this looks like a lot of fun.

a simple competitive premise with tight controls = fun.


I totally agree! If more people "open up" to the idea then maybe we'll see more original titles on the 360!

[DomLando]

I think its good that they have an original idea....but original ideas arent always good. Graphics wise it does look good but I mean there really isn't that much going on in Table Tennis so that is expected. Gameplay wise you still dont know how its going to play. It is Rockstar so who knows. They already said it should be around $39.99 so for that much I will pass.

[Slade555]

^ Not much going on in table tennis? Have you ever seen high level table tennis?? Slices, loops, power shots, drop shots, on and on, at a high level it gets crazy, especially with how fast-paced everything is.

CAGcast I think said there was only one asian out of 12? Thats a little wonky. There should at least be 2 or 3 Chinese guys, maybe one from Taiwan, plus a Korean or something.

[Apossum]

I think its good that they have an original idea....but original ideas arent always good. Graphics wise it does look good but I mean there really isn't that much going on in Table Tennis so that is expected. Gameplay wise you still dont know how its going to play. It is Rockstar so who knows. They already said it should be around $39.99 so for that much I will pass.

if it's like virtua tennis but faster and with a nice variety of shots as Slade pointed out, it's going to kick ass, no two ways about it.

[kaw]

For not much more than the MSRP of this game you can get a real ping pong table and play in full unvirtual 3D. No batteries required; friend not included.

[Apossum]

For not much more than the MSRP of this game you can get a real ping pong table and play in full unvirtual 3D. No batteries required; friend not included.


does it come with world class skills? ;-)

[ViolentLee]

Where's the next-gen Shufflepuck Cafe? Air hockey in an instellar tavern is much more deserving of a 360 game than this.

[Xevious]

Lets see.....Killing Zombies or playing Table tennis?
Hmmmmmm....
What will I play?


Hmmmmmmm.............

[Murcielago77]

so are they really charging full price for this shit?

[DomLando]

^ Not much going on in table tennis? Have you ever seen high level table tennis?? Slices, loops, power shots, drop shots, on and on, at a high level it gets crazy, especially with how fast-paced everything is.

CAGcast I think said there was only one asian out of 12? Thats a little wonky. There should at least be 2 or 3 Chinese guys, maybe one from Taiwan, plus a Korean or something.
To me thats still not a whole lot of gameplay. I think it might be a fun arcade like experience but just not for the price they will offer it for. I also disagree about it being like Virtua Tennis. It will be totally diffrent. To me you just cant have that much variety in a Table Tennis game.

[nyyanksfan20]

For my money I'd much rather buy Top Spin 2 with more options and probably an overall more fun game.

[Monsta Mack]

For my money I'd much rather buy Top Spin 2 with more options and probably an overall more fun game.

It's what I did.

We'll see how it ranks when It's released though.

[seanr1221]

Just watched the video...I must say I kind of like what I'm seeing.

It shall go on my 30.00 or less list.

[FaintDeftone]

All the websites I see are listing this as 39.99 for the SRP. I hope this is true!

[Slade555]

I also disagree about it being like Virtua Tennis. It will be totally diffrent. To me you just cant have that much variety in a Table Tennis game.

You have the same loops and slices, the same positioning of the ball, plus there is EXTRA with left and right side spins. Not to mention everything is much faster than in tennis.

So there is *more* to table tennis.

[Scahom1]

The logo just seems too much like one of those fake logos you see around cities in GTA. What if it was a way of unveiling the next GTA, and table tennis just turns out to be one of the minigames in the new GTA..

There's my conspiracy theory for the day.

Go outside ;)

[PKRipp3r]

fuck rockstar up their stupid fucking asses

when i read this i sold every r* game i owned

[DomLando]

You have the same loops and slices, the same positioning of the ball, plus there is EXTRA with left and right side spins. Not to mention everything is much faster than in tennis.

So there is *more* to table tennis.
You just dont have the strategy of drop shots and lob shots in table tennis either. Im not saying Table Tennis is easy or thee is no skill but variety wise I just dont see it being a game I can play and have a diffrent experience with a lot. It might be good...and I will give it a shot when it comes out (because i do have a tabel and play in real life) but as a video game I just dont think it will be that great.

[SOSTrooper]

I'm sure we're not getting 'just' a table tennis game. Most other sports games add depth to the original concept of the sports, especially things that can't be easily done in real life. I've played table tennis since I was a kid, so I know there is more than just hitting the ball to the other side of the table, much like tennis, just on a smaller and faster scale. Plus this sets up for a lot of possible mini games. The only thing I'm concerned with is how much control we'll have on the player's hitting style. There's lots of different ways to hit the ball that requires different arm movements and precision of strength in real life. I mean, we have volleyball, pool, surfing, bowling, golf... so why not table tennis too? If Rockstar does it right, it could have potential to be good.

[javeryh]

If this game included customizable scoring and rules for beer pong it would be awesome.

[PKRipp3r]

there is more than just hitting the ball to the other side of the table, .

no, there's not

[spoo]

I'm going to wait for R* Foosball!

[DomLando]

If Rockstar does it right, it could have potential to be good.
Yeah and to me that's a big if.

[Brak]

Anyone getting this? I'm gonna wait for reviews, but I'm open to the purchase.

If it's anything like Top Spin 2, me don't want it -- I don't want something deep in way of simulation... especially for ping-pong.

[LinkinPrime]

Anyone getting this? I'm gonna wait for reviews, but I'm open to the purchase.

If it's anything like Top Spin 2, me don't want it -- I don't want something deep in way of simulation... especially for ping-pong.

If Fry's has it for $29.99 like they do in Outpost.com, I might consider it. I wanted to buy Top Spin 2 for $24.99 but I missed the sale so this might do.

Edit: I guess Fry's does have it for sale too.

[psychobrawler]

I'm curious. I think this is a decent idea from rockstar, at least from a business perspective. You put together something with simple, fun gameplay. Make the graphics incredible. Then drop it at a "budget" price at a time when the market for 360 games is pretty much chomping at the bit for new stuff and nothing is coming. I just don't consider $40 a budget title. If Best Buy ends up with it for $30, I'll probably use a GGC and nab it for $25. No Fry's around me to pm...

Don't underestimate simplicity. Geometry Wars reminded me of that. This could be a great time on-line, and I can see some long volleys getting very fast and very intense. I'm certainly not sold, but I'm looking forward to some reviews.

[deadite76]

I'm definitely picking this up tomorrow. Previews have been really positive in terms of gameplay and graphics. We'll be seeing requests for CAG tourneys by the week's end!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709503p1.html

Here's IGN's most recent preview from last Friday. Expect a review later on today!

[terribledeli]

I ordered it from Fry's a while back when they first had it for $29.99

There's nothing on the horizon for me so I figure this will tide me over.

[doubledown]

I was really hoping for a DEMO for this...but alas, nothing yet.

[CAG 79]

IGN reviewed the game. They gave it a 7.8 (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709654p1.html)

[asianxcore]

IGN reviewed the game. They gave it a 7.8 (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709654p1.html)

boooo. no career mode.

[DomLando]

boooo. no career mode.
That sucks big time.

[Scorch]

Only Exhibition and Tournament? Wow. That's kinda.. bare.

[menikmati]

I'll probably Gamerang this in the summer.

[MaskedPlague]

Wow... no career mode. This is not on my buy list until a price drop.

[Jaket]

i would prob only play this online anyway... so no career doesn't really anger me.

i'm picking this up tonight... if anyone else is interested in playing online... hit me up

[moojuice]

i would prob only play this online anyway... so no career doesn't really anger me.

i'm picking this up tonight... if anyone else is interested in playing online... hit me up
If I can find it today, ill add you to my friends list.

[Brak]

This makes me ask again... What ever happened to that wrestling title Rockstar was talking about making?

And I went to Gamecrazy to pick this up... no dice. I guess it comes in tomorrow.

[nevposey]

yeah, i dont expect I'll be playing until tomorrow.

[Santurio]

I still don't know about this game yet. I may pick it up

[Brak]

I refunded my Twilight Princess preorder (that I forgot all about) at GameStop, and picked this up for $20.

Hope it doesn't sux~

[Transformah]

I'm on the fence too, any impressions? I'd love to play this online.

[Tha Xecutioner]

I still say table tennis is one of the few game ideas that would be more fun to play in person rather than with a controller. I'd maybe pick it up for 5 bucks max.

[LinkinPrime]

I refunded my Twilight Princess preorder (that I forgot all about) at GameStop, and picked this up for $20.

Hope it doesn't sux~

I see you're playing it now. Let us know.

BTW: How did you get music symbols in your Motto?

[Brak]

I see you're playing it now. Let us know.

BTW: How did you get music symbols in your Motto?
I just completed the tutorial mode.

The controls are insanely deep, tight and intuitive -- and I think that's the most important part (and where Top Spin 2 fucking failed; why didn't that have a tutorial?). The graphics blew my ass away, too.

After completing the tutorial, 100%, I played an exhibition match. It gets very intense as the ball as whacked back and forth, faster and faster. I lost, but it was a hopeless loss.

The learning curve is, probably 30 - 45 minutes; it'll take some time to master what you've learned, though.

I think everything is pitch-perfect. Very impressed.

As for the music note, I had to type it in at Xbox.com. I copied the music note off of the Character Map (Start > System Tools > Character Map). ;)

[psychobrawler]

It gets very intense as the ball as whacked back and forth, faster and faster.



Sorry man, but that is just hysterical...

On a different note, I may pick this up afterall. I need something safe for my kids to view that I can tool around with on-line here and there.

[Brak]

Sorry man, but that is just hysterical...
What? I was talking about post-testicular cancer masturbation foreplay.

[LinkinPrime]

I just completed the tutorial mode.

The controls are insanely deep, tight and intuitive -- and I think that's the most important part (and where Top Spin 2 fucking failed; why didn't that have a tutorial?). The graphics blew my ass away, too.

After completing the tutorial, 100%, I played an exhibition match. It gets very intense as the ball as whacked back and forth, faster and faster. I lost, but it was a hopeless loss.

The learning curve is, probably 30 - 45 minutes; it'll take some time to master what you've learned, though.

I think everything is pitch-perfect. Very impressed.

As for the music note, I had to type it in at Xbox.com. I copied the music note off of the Character Map (Start > System Tools > Character Map). ;)

Sounds great. Definately picking it up later this evening. Thanks for the quick review. I was torn between getting this or Top Spin but you answered my question.

[toper]

I just completed the tutorial mode.

The controls are insanely deep, tight and intuitive -- and I think that's the most important part (and where Top Spin 2 fucking failed; why didn't that have a tutorial?). The graphics blew my ass away, too.

After completing the tutorial, 100%, I played an exhibition match. It gets very intense as the ball as whacked back and forth, faster and faster. I lost, but it was a hopeless loss.

The learning curve is, probably 30 - 45 minutes; it'll take some time to master what you've learned, though.

I think everything is pitch-perfect. Very impressed.



I got this from Fry's ($29!!!) and I echo these sentiments...first impressions is that this game is brilliant. I reserve my final thoughts for until I've played multiplayer, but I think this game is at least on the level with virtua tennis in terms of fun-factor, control, and depth (probably more deeper). Graphics are superb, and the replays are excellent (are you listening, topspin?).

I smell a cag tourney coming up for this one. If anyone wants to try it online, feel free to send me an invite.

[Chrono72090]

Sounds pretty kickass to me. I want!

[Transformah]

I think I'm in too. I'll get it after work.

[LinkinPrime]

For anyone that's played:

Does this game support 2 player within the same X360?

[PKRipp3r]

as a single-player game, it's underwhelming. As a whole package, it's disappointing. There are no extras here. There is no career mode, no mini-games, no doubles games (and we understand why). As a game design it's clearly simple and lean, and while that was the point, you can finish this game in a mere two hours. It's just too short and lean for our tastes.

d.c.perry @ ign.com

[Monsta Mack]

I don't care about the single player, because I already put in a good 20+ hours into the Top Spin 2 career mode and personally I wanna jump online and go with max stats. The question being is how is the online mode? Rankings and what not is it better then Top Spin 2 and how?

I agree that $40 does sound steep for this game which is why I'm waiting for a sale or $20 down the road depending on the reviews and online impressions over time.

[LinkinPrime]

Teamxbox (8.5) review is up so is IGN (7.8) links in OP.

[moojuice]

Just got it today, but havent played it yet, but I will most likely hop on later tonight.

[DomLando]

My friend picked it up today. The single player is terrible and as stated there is no career mode which makes me not want to pay $40 for this. BUT...the game has surprised me big time. I was very skeptical about this game. For one, it looks amazing (and it should.) Characther models are very nice, looks great in HD. The game is very deep which is great. I didn't think Rockstar could pull off making a deep Table Tennis game but they did. Live is where this game is at it's best. If you want a great multiplayer game this is it. To me because the single player is so lacking I'm probably going to wait for a drop.

[seanr1221]

Hmmmm I think I'll wait 'till it goes on sale for 29.99

[PKRipp3r]

in all honesty... this should have been an XBL download

800 points would have covered it

[I AM WILLIAM H. MACY]

Yeah, I just got it too, PMed the Fry's $30 price at Best Buy.

Only played a little bit, but seems really fuckin' fun. We'll see.

[LinkinPrime]

in all honesty... this should have been an XBL download

800 points would have covered it

According to your gamertag, you havent even played it.

[moojuice]

A very good game so far, even though I haven't even won a match >_<

Anyone up for a CAG exclusive tourny sometime in the future?

[toper]

According to your gamertag, you havent even played it.


But he DID quote ign, though (rolls eyes).

[I AM WILLIAM H. MACY]

A very good game so far, even though I haven't even won a match >_<

Anyone up for a CAG exclusive tourny sometime in the future?
I'd be up for that.

GT's in my sig and to the left.

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[LinkinPrime]

Just played the game, did the training for a bit and started regreting my purchase...thats until I started my first tournament (amateur). Holly shit, once you play it you're hooked, this game is freaking sweet and its totally worth the $40 price tag. Can't wait to play it again. Only downside, doesnt have, create your own character feature.

[Brak]

Jesper is the man.

[PKRipp3r]

According to your gamertag, you havent even played it.

you can REALLY be that stupid...

CAN YOU??

REALLY?

wow

[moojuice]

I'd be up for that.

GT's in my sig and to the left.

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Added you to friends list, im moojuiced.

[Brak]

you can REALLY be that stupid...

CAN YOU??

REALLY?

wow
I think his point was that your "review" is worthless, as you didn't give any apparent reasons for thinking it should be 800 points (aside from the underlying "lololo itz ping pong gayz" aura) -- which would lead one to believe you haven't played it, which would, could and should create an educated opinion on the game...

And that, which I've quoted, should have been your chance to prove him wrong or reclaim your stance.

[LinkinPrime]

you can REALLY be that stupid...

CAN YOU??

REALLY?

wow

If you're going to make a comment on the game atleast stop posting ignorant thoughts before you give it a shot. Dont get so offended dude, I dont.

[PKRipp3r]

I think his point was that your "review" is worthless, as you didn't give any apparent reasons for thinking it should be 800 points (aside from the underlying "lololo itz ping pong gayz" aura) -- which would lead one to believe you haven't played it, which would, could and should create an educated opinion on the game...

And that, which I've quoted, should have been your chance to prove him wrong or reclaim your stance.


you're insane, and also not too smart

#1 it wasn't my review, copied and pasted from IGN.com - and it gave several reasons why this is more of a dl than a full game release. try reading. ;)

#2 when i connect to xbl again, my gamertag will update

the fact that you people think the gamertag reflects what's being played in real-time is staggering

how do you tie your shoes without help?

#3 i've played it, and in my opinion it's a very boring and half-baked title. not even worth a rental to me

[azeledge]

For anyone that's played:

Does this game support 2 player within the same X360?


Yes 2 player on the same box. ie against each other.

There are no doubles matches. So if your thinking Topspin 2 no it does not have 2 players on 1 box online.



My take. Very fun Game. Addicting. Once you start getting a high numbered Rally (# times ball hit back and forth by players) the game gets insane with the music and slo-mo and stuff!

I like this much better than my Top-Spin2 purchase. As said before Controls are deep and really well thought out.

[Brak]

you're insane, and also not too smart

#1 it wasn't my review, copied and pasted from IGN.com - and it gave several reasons why this is more of a dl than a full game release. try reading. ;)

Note that "review" was in quotes. Also note that the post I quoted was your reply to LinkinPrime... now look at the post of yours that LinkinPrime quoted.

Here; let me give you a hand:

in all honesty... this should have been an XBL download

800 points would have covered it

Yep. That's the "review", both LinkinPrime and I were speaking of. The one with now basis behind it: thus "review".

#2 when i connect to xbl again, my gamertag will update

the fact that you people think the gamertag reflects what's being played in real-time is staggering

All of this making fun of people not knowing how to read is a little ironic, idn't it?

Here; here's another hand:

And that, which I've quoted, should have been your chance to prove him wrong or reclaim your stance.

And if you read the paragraph before that, you'll discover that it's more evidence that I acknowledge the fact that we don't know if you've played it or not, and gave you the chance to say otherwise -- your warped mind simply took the defensive of attacking my reading skills. Good job.

Now for the inappropriate defensive attack:

how do you tie your shoes without help?

And now, for what I told you to do, to begin with, but attacked me for telling you to do...:

#3 i've played it, and in my opinion it's a very boring and half-baked title. not even worth a rental to me

Pretty good at arguments and dissections, aren't we? Also, quite the charmster.

Thanks.

[pimpinc333]

Note that "review" was in quotes. Also note that the post I quoted was your reply to LinkinPrime... now look at the post of yours that LinkinPrime quoted.

Here; let me give you a hand:



Yep. That's the "review", both LinkinPrime and I were speaking of. The one with now basis behind it: thus "review".



All of this making fun of people not knowing how to read is a little ironic, idn't it?

Here; here's another hand:



And if you read the paragraph before that, you'll discover that it's more evidence that I acknowledge the fact that we don't know if you've played it or not, and gave you the chance to say otherwise -- your warped mind simply took the defensive of attacking my reading skills. Good job.

Now for the inappropriate defensive attack:



And now, for what I told you to do, to begin with, but attacked me for telling you to do...:



Pretty good at arguments and dissections, aren't we? Also, quite the charmster.

Thanks.

Brak - 2
PKRipp3r - 0

:)

[Santurio]

Brak - 2
PKRipp3r - 0

:)
Word!!:lol:

[LinkinPrime]

I love your comebacks Brak first with Zoglog and now this one :bow:

[CAG 79]

Gamespot seems to have liked it, they gave it an 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/tabletennis/forum.html)

[terribledeli]

Excellent title. Excellent use of excessive graduation money.

[flybrione]

I love this game. I picked it up yesterday with a frys PM at BB and played a little last night with Liu Ping. The character models look great! I finished the training mode and amatuer tournament. Got some intense 30 -40 rallies. I love how the music kicks in after a certain number of returns.

[jer7583]

I played some two player with a friend who has the game and it is really fun, if you've got someone right there playing against you. I don't think online would be as fun, because I don't see the (rockstar) community being real curteous or playing nice.

This has a fight night Rd3 feel to it.. real fun in multiplayer.. so so in single.

I'll pick up the sequel when they add Virtua Tennis type minigames, a career mode, and create a player. Until then I'll be loving the multiplayer on my friend's 360.

[deadite76]

Great game! Too bad most people have made up their mind about it and won't give it a chance. The lack of a career mode or create a player is a bummer but it's still fun to play! Kudos to R*!

[PKRipp3r]

Indeed, Table Tennis is pretty good. But it's (obviously) also a lot more like Pong than the real sport: fun in five-minute intervals, but can't sustain itself over any real stretch of time. In that respect, the game isn't much different from any given Live Arcade title. So why are we paying forty bucks? Oh, right. The name: Rockstar

- Yahoo Games

100% true

not a bad game

but not worthy of a full, retail release either

[PKRipp3r]

Note that "review" was in quotes. Also note that the post I quoted was your reply to LinkinPrime... now look at the post of yours that LinkinPrime quoted.

Here; let me give you a hand:



Yep. That's the "review", both LinkinPrime and I were speaking of. The one with now basis behind it: thus "review".



All of this making fun of people not knowing how to read is a little ironic, idn't it?

Here; here's another hand:



And if you read the paragraph before that, you'll discover that it's more evidence that I acknowledge the fact that we don't know if you've played it or not, and gave you the chance to say otherwise -- your warped mind simply took the defensive of attacking my reading skills. Good job.

Now for the inappropriate defensive attack:



And now, for what I told you to do, to begin with, but attacked me for telling you to do...:



Pretty good at arguments and dissections, aren't we? Also, quite the charmster.

Thanks.

you didn't refute anything i said.. so that was a total waste of your time.

:lol:

i stand behind my original, informed and valid opinion posted

also, next time provide all these footnotes in the original post and explain the import of every single word so i can respond just how you'd prefer me to... great stuff

lmfao

[toper]

i stand behind my original, informed and valid opinion posted



Ummm, I haven't seen ANYTHING from you in this thread of substance, other than one-liners and quotes from ign/yahoo (in which case, they are neither original, informed, nor valid). Why let ign/yahoo speak for you? I don't need them (or anybody for that matter) to tell me whether a game is good or not...I actually decide for myself! Also, I NEVER judge a game based on price...once I've bought it (AFTER doing my due diligence and actually RESEARCHING the title), that money's gone and I judge whether or not it's worth keeping based on it's own merits, not on how much I paid for it (that's just me, though...if money is tight for you, then YMMV). :)

Anyways, we get it: you don't think this is game is worth $40, even though you went ahead and bought it anyways. If you're not enjoying it, then sell/trade it and move on from this thread...you won't be missed.




***MORE IMPRESSIONS***

After some extended online play, I'm ready to annoint this as the 360 sports game of the year so far. It's every bit as enjoyable as virtua tennis (which I love), except it's faster, has better graphics/sound, deeper controls/gameplay, and has an online interface that is tailored to really minimize quitters, in my experiences (a timed, round-robin format that is quick to get into, short, and let's you play a variety of opponents).

What makes this one a classic for me is how simple it is to learn, but how seemingly difficult it's gonna be to master: so many nuances to learn about the sport (what spin do I use? how should I counter this shot? is my opponent strong with their forehand or backhand?), so many skills utilized while you're playing (your reflexes get a workout, your mental-toughness is tested during long rally's), and enough random events to keep you on your toes (shots trickling just over the net, or nicking the side of the table). There's a definite learning curve with this one, but it's rewarding rather than frustrating...and best of all, FUN!

I'm also semi-glad that there's no create a player...the last thing this game needs is for the online portion to turn into a "battle of the maxed-out players". I LOVE the character designs (thank you rockstar for not going the DOA route and giving us supermodel-bimbos!). I've unlocked most of the characters, and there's a good balance to choose from, with no one "superior" character that everyone can cheese with. It really reminds me of SF2 in a way: a mano-y-mano fighting game (albeit, in a ping-pong setting) with a great variety of "fighters" to choose from, each with their own styles and strengths/weaknesses to exploit.

I highly recommend this title for sports fans, tennis fans, table tennis fans, virtua tennis/topspin fans, and even fighting fans(!)...at $40 it's a bargain and at $30 (the price I got it for from Fry's) it's a steal. See you guys online!

[moojuice]

Uh, game just had an update, anyone know what it did?

[Brak]

you didn't refute anything i said.. so that was a total waste of your time.
I didn't refute anything you said? Ok.

That's a pretty good copout of being called out and proved wrong, 100%. I've used it before... in second grade. Further more, every "argument" (and they're not arguments; they're ignorant, defensive commentaries pertaining nothing to you opinions on the game, but your opinions and commentaries on LinkinPrime and myself). So, in the "argument" of your "review", you won just as much as I did... after all, there never was an argument with your review or opinions on the game at the core of any verbal skirmish. Shadowbox much?

The bittersweet irony of you attacking peoples' reading and comprehension keeps on flourishing. I'd recommend quitting while you're ahead... erm; even though you never were ahead.

Let's keep in mind, and you can review my previous post (to see your posts, and me addressing every point you made), me refuting everything you argued with me about -- not your opinions on the game, but your commentary on my reading and comprehension.

Think the game isn't worth a full retail release? SWEET! That had absolutely nothing to do with our argument -- rather, the absence of your opinion was at the core of our argument, in addition to your inappropriate defensive lash-outs.

Anything else you want to be wrong about?

[Xevious]

I love Rockstar but I just don't see myself buying this game. If it was $15....maybe.

[jer7583]

I got a 20% off new 360 games at gamecrazy coupon today.. this game is starting to look tempting now..

[asianxcore]

the game has only been out for a few days now and a used copy popped up at my local EB already. $34.99 I believe.

[terribledeli]

Indeed, Table Tennis is pretty good. But it's (obviously) also a lot more like Pong than the real sport: fun in five-minute intervals, but can't sustain itself over any real stretch of time. In that respect, the game isn't much different from any given Live Arcade title. So why are we paying forty bucks? Oh, right. The name: Rockstar

- Yahoo Games

100% true

not a bad game

but not worthy of a full, retail release either

Holy shit! Yahoo games?!

Seriously, who gets their reviews from Yahoo games? They rank up there with Maxim.

[deadite76]

Uh, game just had an update, anyone know what it did?

Wondering the same thing myself.

[maccabee72]

I grabbed this today at wal-Mart with a price match of the Fry's ad for $29.99.

This is $29.99 well spent!

There is almost no depth to this game, but the gameplay, graphics, and online are just phenomenal!

I played through the tutorial, and housed the first tournament, and then decided to head online.......This is where this game really shines!

I pretty much suck with a 2-4 record right now, but 2 of my losses were real close, and the tempo combined with the smooth gameplay make this one of the most fun online games I've played in a long time!

I'm really jonesing for a Career mode after what I've played so far, but at $29.99, I'll take it for what it is; a super fun game, with slick gameplay, superb graphics, and super fun and competitive online mode.

Go out and get it, if you haven't already:)

[Apossum]

gonna get this soon. I love games that put you in the zone (like virtua tennis)

[lukenot]

This game is great. I played for three hours the other night with my friend over live. INTENSE.

Has anyone tried to set up a tournament of four players on two 360's over live? I'm curious to know if that can be done.

Thanks

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

I'm definetely going to have to rent it first....looks promising though. Never underestimate a fun game.

[CheapyD]

***MORE IMPRESSIONS***

After some extended online play, I'm ready to annoint this as the 360 sports game of the year so far. It's every bit as enjoyable as virtua tennis (which I love), except it's faster, has better graphics/sound, deeper controls/gameplay, and has an online interface that is tailored to really minimize quitters, in my experiences (a timed, round-robin format that is quick to get into, short, and let's you play a variety of opponents).

What makes this one a classic for me is how simple it is to learn, but how seemingly difficult it's gonna be to master: so many nuances to learn about the sport (what spin do I use? how should I counter this shot? is my opponent strong with their forehand or backhand?), so many skills utilized while you're playing (your reflexes get a workout, your mental-toughness is tested during long rally's), and enough random events to keep you on your toes (shots trickling just over the net, or nicking the side of the table). There's a definite learning curve with this one, but it's rewarding rather than frustrating...and best of all, FUN!

I'm also semi-glad that there's no create a player...the last thing this game needs is for the online portion to turn into a "battle of the maxed-out players". I LOVE the character designs (thank you rockstar for not going the DOA route and giving us supermodel-bimbos!). I've unlocked most of the characters, and there's a good balance to choose from, with no one "superior" character that everyone can cheese with. It really reminds me of SF2 in a way: a mano-y-mano fighting game (albeit, in a ping-pong setting) with a great variety of "fighters" to choose from, each with their own styles and strengths/weaknesses to exploit.

I highly recommend this title for sports fans, tennis fans, table tennis fans, virtua tennis/topspin fans, and even fighting fans(!)...at $40 it's a bargain and at $30 (the price I got it for from Fry's) it's a steal. See you guys online! Very nice mini-review. You've made me look forward to getting this game.

[Transformah]

...on the way through Gamefly. I wonder what their used price will be?

[toper]

Very nice mini-review. You've made me look forward to getting this game.


Thanks for the kind words...make sure you let us know what you think about it when it comes in!

[KaneRobot]

Moderately interested now that reviews are out. Was hoping there would be a little more meat to it - no create a player is kind of disappointing. They could have gotten around exploits by just letting you create the appearance and then choosing from 6-8 preset attribute sets or something.

[psychobrawler]

Picked it up today. Aced the tutorial and had the impression it was a simple and shallow game. Then I got my ass kicked by an "easy" AI opponent about 5 games straight. I'm feeling that quick frustrated addiciton that Geometry Wars carried with it. The more I got my ass kicked, the more I have to play, and the more I realize how much reflex is involved. Man, to respond to the spin of the ball based on that little color blur... You have to have some insane reflexes. Fun so far. I'm looking forward to some more.

Anyone want to kick my ass on LIVE, feel free to send me a friend invite. Just type CAG or something in the message box... I don't spend a lot of time on line, but I'm always up for a friendly game when I am.

[MaskedPlague]

Thanks to reward zone certificates, I picked this up at Best Buy today. I cannot wait to pop it in to see how it plays. I was going to wait, but I just love ping pong.

[Technique]

I can't wait to get my copy. I just bought it from KongaKing here on CAG and my friend bought it today at GameStop. After hearing these mini-reviews, this game sounds more and more appealing to me.

[FaintDeftone]

I picked it up today. I really suck at it though. It is pretty fun but I can't seem to grasp it very easily. I mess up A LOT. I usually end up moving when I don't want to on accident. I need a lot of practice.

[Monsta Mack]

This game is pretty damn good. While it doesn't have the create a player or deep single player Top Spin 2 offered, the game is still great and to play and perhaps better in terms of controls then Top Spin 2, with the exception of the serving ability. I hope to take this baby online in the near future.

[moojuice]

So, is there anyone else interested in setting up a tourney?

[Technique]

So, is there anyone else interested in setting up a tourney?
I'd be interested in doing something like this once I get my copy on Tuesday.

[Monsta Mack]

So, is there anyone else interested in setting up a tourney?

Once we get enough people with this game and go at it, let me know the time in eastern time and I'll hope to be home to jump in :) Sign me up !

[CheapyD]

I'm definitely interested in a tourney. I'll see if I can score some Rockstar prizes.

[Monsta Mack]

I got my ass kicked by the Irish Wench in the normal tourney, while I was slapping around everyone else with a large trout. Was like 12-0 then went 12-7 thanks to her.

I've read if you win 50 games, via exhibition or tourney with a character you pretty much unlock everyone. Shirts are pretty understandable on how to get, but what about venues/locations ?

This game is addicted like crack. Top Spin 2 still compliments this game nicely and I'm sure in the long run people will stop hatin' on that game, but for now this game should be the rage for weeks to come.

[DomLando]

Like you said if you do win 50 matches in any mode you unlock all the characthers. Venues I still dont know. I have only played one tournament so far so maybe its deeper in that mode.

[moojuice]

I'm definitely interested in a tourney. I'll see if I can score some Rockstar prizes.
Well, that would be cool. If I ended up setting up the tourney, I would have used my $10 Amex from that promotion way back when (yes, I still have not used it), but Rockstar prizes would be alot more appropriate/cooler.

Anyways, we really only need 4 people, 8 at most, so at last count, 5 people including me are interested, so if 3 more want to join up, we could get an 8 person tourney (Hooray for run-on sentences). Or, we could somehow fit more if needed, like a two-bracket tourney, etc.

Edit: Scratch that, I looked at my Amex card (which I haven't done in a while lol), and it expires at the end of this month.

[Technique]

Well, that would be cool. If I ended up setting up the tourney, I would have used my $10 Amex from that promotion way back when (yes, I still have not used it), but Rockstar prizes would be alot more appropriate/cooler.

Anyways, we really only need 4 people, 8 at most, so at last count, 5 people including me are interested, so if 3 more want to join up, we could get an 8 person tourney (Hooray for run-on sentences). Or, we could somehow fit more if needed, like a two-bracket tourney, etc.

Edit: Scratch that, I looked at my Amex card (which I haven't done in a while lol), and it expires at the end of this month.

Count me in on the tourney. Feel free to add me on XBL too.

[psychobrawler]

Sign me up. Straight to the loser bracket, if you want... :)

i get a little frustrated with this game. I feel like I've got it down for a couple of games, then someone just smokes me. I tried an easy tournie and dominated the first three matches easily, then the Egyptian guy pounds me. There's a lot to be said for consistancy. Hitting that mark where you're in the "zone" changes the play dramatically. Let your opponent get there and you may be in trouble. Fun stuff. Haven't played on line yet. Need more practice.

[Brak]

I'd play in a tournament.

[maccabee72]

I'll play in a tourney....although I pretty much suck!

5-10 online record so far:cry: (although most matches have been very close)

Anyone have any good advice??

[MaskedPlague]

I would be down for a tournament.

[2Fast]

Gawd I want this game. One question though, is there offline multiplayer?

[CheapyD]

Yes, there is 2 player offline multiplayer.

BTW, I played Gabe from Penny Arcade today. We played a 4 man timed tournament and he beat me (but it was close!).

I demand a rematch!

[shipwreck]

I was able to find a used copy of this game at GameRush today, so I'm in for any tournament that may be in the works.

[javeryh]

I was able to find a used copy of this game at GameRush today, so I'm in for any tournament that may be in the works.

How much? I've been on the fence about getting this - if I wait I have a feeling it will be tough to find online opponents...

[shipwreck]

How much? I've been on the fence about getting this - if I wait I have a feeling it will be tough to find online opponents...

It was $35 used, so it cost me a little less than a Matrix: Path of Neo & a Marc Ecko's Getting Up. ;)

[javeryh]

It was $35 used, so it cost me a little less than a Matrix: Path of Neo & a Marc Ecko's Getting Up. ;)

It's so tempting... $35 is just about 3 lunches one week so all I would have to do is pack something to justify it... hmmm...

[2Fast]

It's so tempting... $35 is just about 3 lunches one week so all I would have to do is pack something to justify it... hmmm...
$35 for three lunches?! Damn, if you're living it up that much just buy the damn game! I feel guilty if I spend $15 on three lunches.

[nevposey]

i'd do a tournament too

[Technique]

I just got the game today and I have to say its pretty fun. I only played for about 15 minutes, but it seems really fun. I don't know any of the buttons because I haven't really done the training.

[lyric706]

Picked this up yesterday. Can anyone give me some pointers, though? I can't seem to do ANYTHING against the AI opponent on EASY! Am I just really THAT bad at games?

[shipwreck]

I've been playing this most of the day, and I've come to realize that I suck at it. I keep telling myself that I'm better than these other people playing on Live, but they all assure me that I am not.

Jesper is becoming one of my most hated video game characters of all time. I can't play single player without him beating the crap out of me and 75% of the people I've played against on Live also make him the most cussed out Swedish table tennis player of all time.

[Wombat]

I too am really bad at this but heres a pointer, hit the button as soon as you hear the noise of the ball hitting paddle on your opponents side. hope that helps someone

[toper]

I've been playing this most of the day, and I've come to realize that I suck at it. I keep telling myself that I'm better than these other people playing on Live, but they all assure me that I am not.

Jesper is becoming one of my most hated video game characters of all time. I can't play single player without him beating the crap out of me and 75% of the people I've played against on Live also make him the most cussed out Swedish table tennis player of all time.


I gotta agree with you on Jesper...he's on my short-list for "most annoying videogame character of all-time".

[shipwreck]

I gotta agree with you on Jesper...he's on my short-list for "most annoying videogame character of all-time".

You gotta admit, though, he's got some really nice calves. :)

I know I've looked at them a lot when thinking about cutting his achilles tendon and ending his table tennis career for good.

[Brak]

You have to nail Jesper with speed. Switch, back and forth, to both sides of his table... and keep on your toes, so you don't return to the ball to him with a weak, high shot, or you're fucking doomed.

[shipwreck]

You have to nail Jesper with speed. Switch, back and forth, to both sides of his table... and keep on your toes, so you don't return to the ball to him with a weak, high shot, or you're fucking doomed.

I just don't think I'm good enough to beat him on the Pro Circuit. I can get through the first two tournaments fine, but anytime I hit anything to his forehand side on Pro, he crams it right down my ass.

[Monsta Mack]

Been playing alot more. Put it on easy to unlock all the places to play at and all characters. Mark is more enjoyable then Jesper imho and almost just as strong with better acuracy and speed. It all depends on your playstyle though, because Jesper is still the strongest. My only dissapointment is there are no characters with perfect serve abilitys, would have been nice to see more aces.

[Monsta Mack]

So did this game just die out of interest already or what?

I was making tournaments earlier and no one was joining at all. What happended to the CAG tourney?


So far I'm on a 17 game winning streak, I think im 23-4. It's sad because 2 of my loses came to the msg screen freeze glitch, one because my opponent was really laggy, and the other because I was dumb enough to play a ranked game for my first experience which was my only legitmate loss. Then again when all your opponents are Jesper and Mr. Ping you get use to the same tactics. Mark kicks ass.

Someone challenge me please.

[terribledeli]

So did this game just die out of interest already or what?


I got sucked into Hitman and don't plan on letting go for a while.

[spoo]

Wow I really suck at this game. I am affraid to play on live.

[Renegade_Zero]

Just picked this up.. I'll play in a tourney if someone sets it up. Any other cags feel free to add me to their friend's list I'd be up for a game once I get the controls and stuff down.

[jfunkdpg]

I bought this on Friday and am absolutely loving it. Any cags who wanna play (I suck, so don't worry) add me to your list, I'll probably be playing later tonight.

And I would love to be in a tourney if we get one set up.

[toper]

So did this game just die out of interest already or what?

I was making tournaments earlier and no one was joining at all. What happended to the CAG tourney?


So far I'm on a 17 game winning streak, I think im 23-4. It's sad because 2 of my loses came to the msg screen freeze glitch, one because my opponent was really laggy, and the other because I was dumb enough to play a ranked game for my first experience which was my only legitmate loss. Then again when all your opponents are Jesper and Mr. Ping you get use to the same tactics. Mark kicks ass.

Someone challenge me please.


I think people are still in the "lemme get the hang of the controls first, before I embarrass myself online" stage. :)

Anyways, I'm always down to play online. I actually think people who jump online right away to learn this game have an advantage over those who "come up" in the one player mode. I know from playing solo mode too much, I've had a hard time online from the bad habits I've picked up by playing too "mechanically" against the cpu (hope that makes sense).

Anyways, I'm thinking of just having an impromptu tourney every nite at a set time...nothing big, just show up and we can shoot the bull and get a couple of timed tourney's in. If anyone's down, just add me to your friends list or shoot me a message, and I'll set something up starting tomorrow nite (maybe twice a nite, one at 7pm pacific and one at 10pm pacific...that should cover all the time zones).

Thanks,

Toper

[LinkinPrime]

I suck so bad that I'm afraid to go online. Trying to get some more practice first.

BTW: Demo will come some time soon

[shipwreck]

I'm getting a lot better now (well maybe not a lot, but at least better). The main thing that helped me improve was trying to hit more shots closer to the net. Before I was just hitting everything either right or left without paying attention to whether I was hitting it deep or short. This makes a huge difference in the game and is really where spin comes into play.

Tip: Try hitting cross-court backhands with "red" spin while holding the left analog controller down and to the right. This is a good way to get people/the computer running around and out of position. (Don't try this against a low-trajectory shot with back-spin though or you'll hit it into the net).

[CheapyD]

So did this game just die out of interest already or what?

I was making tournaments earlier and no one was joining at all. What happended to the CAG tourney? I'm gonna see if I can score some Table Tennis schwag from Rockstar...
perhaps this...

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/rockstar/rockstars-schweet-table-tennis-schwag-178263.php
http://xboxcollector.blogspot.com/2006/06/rockstars-table-tennis-gear.html

http://www.kotaku.com/images/2006/06/rockstarpingpongballs.jpg

[shipwreck]

I'm gonna see if I can score some Table Tennis schwag from Rockstar...
perhaps this...

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/rockstar/rockstars-schweet-table-tennis-schwag-178263.php

http://www.kotaku.com/images/2006/06/rockstarpingpongballs.jpg

Awesome.

On a related note, see above tip if playing against Cheapy. :lol:

[Wombat]

I have the wristband in white unopened still, I would be happy to donte it some worthwhile contest. I had 2 ping pong balls, but I gave them to my nephews.

[shipwreck]

I have the wristband in white unopened still, I would be happy to donte it some worthwhile contest. I had 2 ping pong balls, but I gave them to my nephews.

Are you telling me that there was a chance to have a "Win Wombat's Balls" contest and you didn't run with that? Cheapy, I think it's time to start having open auditions for the Podcast. Wombat's losing his touch.

[Wombat]

Are you telling me that there was a chance to have a "Win Wombat's Balls" contest and you didn't run with that? Cheapy, I think it's time to start having open auditions for the Podcast. Wombat's losing his touch.

I am humbled and ashamed

[moojuice]

Well, I was doing the tourney thing, but I decided with only abotu 8 people, and with some not even giving me their availability, I decided it really wasn't worth the effort for so little people, and I would most likley have to deal with the "OMG, liek, I said I couldn't get on at liek, teh time you put me on."

[Apossum]

just got this and it rules...I don't think anyone on my FL owns it, so feel free to add me.

[R1V3R5]

Picked this game up today at Meijers "buy 1, get 1 for half off" deal along with NSBM. Good game so far. Getting my ass kicked a ton!

[psychobrawler]

Seems like the tournie thread was up to about a dozen interested people, and there are a lot more folks here that seem to be up for it. Maybe we shouldn't worry about specific times, and just set up brackets and give everyone a week to play their game before moving to the next bracket? Then each pair of players will just have to work out the specifics of when they play their match or matches...

[shipwreck]

I'd always be up for a tourney. This seems like the only game I've been playing lately, so if I'm online, feel free to challenge me to a match.

I should hopefully be finishing up the All-Star Circuit in single player today. I tried 5-6 times yesterday to beat the last guy (Luc in my case), and failed miserably.

[LinkinPrime]

Is there any trick to hitting shots close to the net without touching the net? When I do soft shots to the net the rumbling doesnt warn me and most of the time I hit the net.

[moojuice]

Well, I am leaving for vacation today, so if someone wants, they can c/p the list from my thread, and make a new thread and continue the tourny.

[shipwreck]

Is there any trick to hitting shots close to the net without touching the net? When I do soft shots to the net the rumbling doesnt warn me and most of the time I hit the net.

Generally, the only time you'll hit it into the net is if you are trying to return a shot that has backspin on it with a spin other than backspin. You can pretty much hit any shot short as long as you are paying attention to the spin the ball has on it when it is coming towards you. If you try and cut a ball that has low trajectory backspin on it, you will almost always hit it into the net if you don't either a) return it with backspin or b) return it deep with any kind of spin. Other than that, you should very rarely be hitting it into the net.

[LinkinPrime]

Generally, the only time you'll hit it into the net is if you are trying to return a shot that has backspin on it with a spin other than backspin. You can pretty much hit any shot short as long as you are paying attention to the spin the ball has on it when it is coming towards you. If you try and cut a ball that has low trajectory backspin on it, you will almost always hit it into the net if you don't either a) return it with backspin or b) return it deep with any kind of spin. Other than that, you should very rarely be hitting it into the net.

Thanks, maybe that'll help me with that bitch Cassidy, I can't fucking beat her, sometimes I wish for a cheat in the style of Rockstar games where I could just beat the crap out of her with the paddles or stuff a few balls down her throat. She is so damn cheap. :bomb:

[shipwreck]

Finally got throught the All-Star Circuit last night. I don't know if I'll actually take the time to play through that circuit with all the players though. The single player game is finally starting to get a little boring for me, which is not too bad for the amount of time I've played it. I'll probably keep the game because the online is so fun, and maybe I'll just dabble in single player from time to time now.

[LinkinPrime]

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. It gets pretty hard and pretty repetive on SP. I was so tempted to traded it in because I couldnt beat Cassidy but I finally kicked her ass last night.

[Monsta Mack]

I spent over 2+ hours going at Carmen over and over again. She was a fucking bitch to face with Mark.

I have yet to tackle the All Star circuit. My 21 game win streak in live exhibition games ended yesterday when someone whopped me with Jurgen, then I got edged by a Luc and my ranking went all the way from 500 to 900ish. bah.

I wouldn't get rid of this game because the multiplayer is so simple and a blast, even though the single player is lacking (and I still have achievements to get).

[mobster011]

Could someone help me out with this question? I posted over at gamefaqs and never got an answer. I should have known better.

If you lose a match in an offline tournament, do you have to start over again or does it let you retry that one match?

[shipwreck]

Could someone help me out with this question? I posted over at gamefaqs and never got an answer. I should have known better.

If you lose a match in an offline tournament, do you have to start over again or does it let you retry that one match?

You can just restart the match that you are on. You can do that as many times as necessary.

[mobster011]

To unlock all the outfits, you have to win 22 matches with everyone correct? Now does anyone know if this also includes online wins or do they all have to be done offline?

As for the natural achievement, where you have to beat any of the tournament circuits with every character, does it have to be on default settings or can I change it to 7 point matches?

[shipwreck]

To unlock all the outfits, you have to win 22 matches with everyone correct? Now does anyone know if this also includes online wins or do they all have to be done offline?

As for the natural achievement, where you have to beat any of the tournament circuits with every character, does it have to be on default settings or can I change it to 7 point matches?

I got all of my wins offline I believe, so I'm not sure on the first question. I thought is was closer to 30-40 wins, but I might be wrong.

For all of the tournament achievements, you can change the settings to 7 point matches.