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March 14, 2006 - At its PlayStation Business Briefing going on right now in Japan, Sony announced new packages and price points for its PlayStation portable.
For the US, a "base unit" release will be priced at $199 and will hit stores at the end of March. Presumably, this is a slightly scaled-down package that doesn't include headphones, the carrying case and so forth, mimicking the cheaper original Japanese release.
Europe will see a similar package for 199 Euros beginning on March 22nd, so mark your calendars. And for you folks over in Japan (or import lovers), a new white PSP SKU will hit shelves starting April 15th and retail for 19800 Yen (~$168 US).
http://psp.ign.com/articles/696/696053p1.html
March 14, 2006 - Sony's Ken Kutaragi continues to drop PlayStation Portable news during the company's PlayStation Business Briefing 2006 as he's just announced that the PSP will see "E-Distrubution" features added sometime in the future.
Users will be able to boot software directly from their Memory Stick, all official-like this time around (you know what I mean). The first major announcement for use of this will be a series of PSOne games - yes, you will be able to download classic PlayStation titles and play them on your PSP. No word yet as of whether or not you'll be able to transfer games directly via disc or not, or which games we should see first, but more news on this as it comes in.
http://psp.ign.com/articles/696/696052p1.html
Edit: DL PSX games.
PS3 Info
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/15/ps...nce-it-begins/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/15/ps3-press-conference-it-begins/)
sblymnlcrymnl
03-15-2006, 03:16 AM
Great, maybe in 1, 1 1/2 years it'll be worth buying. 8-)
guardian_owl
03-15-2006, 03:16 AM
Darnit, missed the vbookie bet by 1 month...
It's a year late for this price, it should be around $175 now. Oh well it is still better then the $250 price that it is at now.
why cant just drop the bundle to $200? I mean the headphone and case are not going to worth that much.
Great, maybe in 1, 1 1/2 years it'll be worth buying. 8-)
exactly. The pricepoint i like, but it doesn't come with the extra stuff like it should. Crap deal. boo Sony on this one.
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 03:30 AM
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/15/ps3-press-conference-it-begins/
So far nice info...
PSP: Flash Support (Spring/Year:?), Download PS1 Titles, RSS, Web Update, Anti Hacking, USB Eye Toy (September), Video/Voice Over IP (October)
PS3: Simultanius November Release in Jap/USA/Eur, 6 million units for launch, 1 million for each month, HDD Required but not yet known if bundled yet, HDD can be your own server/run Linux OS (yay!)/60gb/upgradable, High-def backwards compatablity (ie, your older games will be in High-def), Final Dev Kits in June, Online mode will support community tools/voice chat/lobby matching/commerce/bootable software from HDD, will have "Basic" service and "?" service, PS3 is being said to be "4D"/"live" in terms of power (lol... think up something better Sony please), Games are Blue-ray format ONLY to prevent piracey, 15 different developers making middleware for PS3
as the day goes by, just update this thread as news comes through since I'll be at my university by the time the updates roll around...
Roufuss
03-15-2006, 03:33 AM
The first major announcement for use of this will be a series of PSOne games - yes, you will be able to download classic PlayStation titles and play them on your PSP. No word yet as of whether or not you'll be able to transfer games directly via disc or not, or which games we should see first, but more news on this as it comes in.
I'm banking on Final Fantasy 7 eventually.
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 03:37 AM
whoops... close my other thread...
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I don't know if I'm happy with downloading PS1 games or if I'm not happy with it...
Blind the Thief
03-15-2006, 03:40 AM
Worldwide launch this November? I don't think anyone expected that.
Scorch
03-15-2006, 03:45 AM
I'm still loving the fact that they're banking on older games (emulators/roms and PS1 games) for the success of the PSP, as well as other various programs, without adding any PSP games to the lineup.
Update 8: IGN reports that the PS3 will be "100% backwards compatible," and that "all legacy titles played on the system will be displayed at high-definition resolutions," similar to the Xbox 360's BC upscaling (but hopefully without the profile downloading). "[F]ull Blu-ray support" and "the latest HDMI connection" were also touted. Thanks, bv!
100% bc.. interesting.
Now give us a price.
A Happy Panda
03-15-2006, 03:48 AM
Yeah a worldwide launch is pretty ridiculous. We'll see if Sony can pull it off without pissing off TOO many gamers...yeah nope, the demand will be too ridiculous.
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 03:50 AM
updated with HDD info...
sounds good so far... but I'm kinda in a unkown state of mind after the PS1 games for PSP was announced... I don't know what to think.
Ivanhoe
03-15-2006, 03:50 AM
this is good news to me !.
a novemeber release date woohooo!!
japanese residents might be a little mad due to a delay for them.
but for the rest of us. its still right on track.
All from IGN:
PS3 Worldwide Release in November
Once released, Sony will unleash one million units per month with a total of six million units in 2006 alone. Production numbers are higher for PS1 and PS2 in their initial years.
High-Def PS2 and PSOne Games
all PlayStation 3 games will ship on Blu-ray to help prevent piracy.
PS3 HDD Required
PlayStation 3 will require the hard drive peripheral. In total, it will be 60GB big, be completely upgradeable, and support Linux OS. Additionally, the peripheral will act as a home server and allow users to store various forms of media to be pulled up elsewhere.
Final PS3 Dev Kits in June
PS3 Online Details Released
Beginning at the system's launch, currently scheduled for sometime this November, the system will feature community tools including lobby matching and voice chat, commerce features that includes bootable software via the hard drive.
The service was created with the help of Sony Online Entertainment. Best of all, the "basic" service will be free of charge.
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 03:55 AM
OP updated.... don't know how late I can stay up lol... when does the conference end?
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 04:02 AM
updated again...
Scorch
03-15-2006, 04:04 AM
Hmm.. saving the price for last.
I'm assuming it'll be either $400 or $500, everyone will cheer, then cry when the games are more than $50.
PS Biz Brief '06: PS3 is "Live"
Kutaragi continues to hype PS3's experience.
by Chris Roper
March 14, 2006 - At the PlayStation Business Briefing 2006, Ken Kutaragi has just added another infamous quote to his belt, this time stating that PS3 games are "live" and that the PS3 concept is "4D".
He claims that games have gone from 8-bit to 16-bit planes, to the "space" that you saw on the PS1/PS2, and now PS3 will be "live".
What's interesting is that I got that article^ after playing with the numbers in a link, it hadn't actually been posted yet.
Same with this one:
PS Biz Brief '06: No Games on Display
Sony focuses solely on hardware news.
by Chris Roper
March 15, 2006 - The PlayStation Business Briefing 2006 has just wrapped up over in Tokyo, and surprisingly, there were no new software announcements made. Sony basically kept this to a hardware-only event, speaking about PS3, PSP and PS2 hardware news, but failed to bring up any software-related topics, aside from a few details about its online plans.
It's funny that IGN already has a conference summary up when the conference is still currently going on
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 04:08 AM
It's funny that IGN already has a conference summary up when the conference is still currently going on
probably because Sony demonstrated that the PS3 has time travel...
4D games OMG! The price will be..... $500 + $70 BluRay-Rom games? HDMI output only? How else would Blu-Ray games stop piracy if it wasn't HDMI only output? It will only be time before the pirates figure out Modchips and burning/HDD games. Or will PS3 make you go online before you can play a game hence the no resale/renting of games?
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 04:19 AM
sounds like the confrence is over, so I'm heading to bed (it's 3:20 am where I am) since I have to head over to my campus at 8am via bus. If there's any more updates, the mods are free to do what they want with my OP.
Blind the Thief
03-15-2006, 04:27 AM
Thanks buddy, 'preciate the dedication. :)
RelentlessRolento
03-15-2006, 04:31 AM
Thanks buddy, 'preciate the dedication. :)
lol and the sad part is... i'm, still up >_<
at least I updated... info on middleware.
Dr Mario Kart
03-15-2006, 04:52 AM
I dont know much about resolutions and fancy tvs, but wont upscaling a PS1 resolution game up to fancy pants grade resolution....look like crap?
Graystone
03-15-2006, 04:54 AM
I might pick it up for $199. I will have to look at the catalog of games and decide that way. Right now without looking at the catalog games I can't think of any that I want. I would really like to see this at $150. Maybe the used ones will drop to $150. Good news though.
gambitmachete
03-15-2006, 05:21 AM
exactly. The pricepoint i like, but it doesn't come with the extra stuff like it should. Crap deal. boo Sony on this one.
The extra stuff sucked. It was criminal that we were being forced to pay $50 extra for that crap instead of having the two packages like Japan did. I'm happy about the PSone download thing, though. It'll be cool to have all those great old games in portable form for the first time.
Dr Mario Kart
03-15-2006, 05:51 AM
well played. We sell Breath of Fire 3 and Valkyrie Profile to them, BEFORE announcing that they may eventually be able to download them.
guardian_owl
03-15-2006, 06:12 AM
At the PlayStation Business Briefing 2006, Ken Kutaragi has just added another infamous quote to his belt, this time stating that PS3 games are "live" and that the PS3 concept is "4D".
"The PS3...It's what makes time travel possible..."
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/guardian_owl/ps3_4d.jpg
Dr Mario Kart
03-15-2006, 06:16 AM
he shouldve been like, 3D? How bout 3 DOUBLE D! :bouncy::bouncy:
hohez
03-15-2006, 06:26 AM
Dunno why everyone is getting so excited about the November release date, E3 last year everyone was, "OMG TEH SPRING 2k6 RELEASE PS3 4 T3H LYFE!!!"
And come spring, no ps3......
Believe it when you see it on store shelves.
FriskyTanuki
03-15-2006, 06:37 AM
I'm still loving the fact that they're banking on older games (emulators/roms and PS1 games) for the success of the PSP, as well as other various programs, without adding any PSP games to the lineup.
Yes, because there's absolutely nothing coming out for the PSP at all.
100% bc.. interesting.
Now give us a price.
There's not going to be a price announcement anytime soon. If you were expecting one, you were going to be disappointed.
PittsburghAfterDark
03-15-2006, 08:21 AM
60GB HDD, 2.5" or 3.5"? Huge price difference.
Blu Ray drives coming out in April or May are pre-selling for $500-1,800.
Hardware chip/setup similar in cost structure to the 360?
No way this hits street for less than $499.
The Blu Ray drives alone have to be in the $180+ range. The chipsets, CPU + GPU, have to be running $150-180, HDD would depend on the size but figure another $80. Input/output connections for video, ethernet, optical out $40. Controller $20. Connection cables/power supply $20. Production costs $30 per unit. S&H $20 per unit.
Of course I'm probably missing some things but no way this makes it to market for less than the cost of a 360 Premium or at the same cost.
daroga
03-15-2006, 08:49 AM
Dunno why everyone is getting so excited about the November release date, E3 last year everyone was, "OMG TEH SPRING 2k6 RELEASE PS3 4 T3H LYFE!!!"
And come spring, no ps3......
Believe it when you see it on store shelves.
I'm kinda in that boat. Sony puffs a lot of hot air, so I'll wait to see what comes about before I cheer/mock. They've gotta keep that price-point down, though. the 360 was pushing it with $400. If it's upwards of $500, that could be bad. "Johnny, what do you want for Christmas?" "A PS3!!!" "For the last time, we're not taking on a second car loan to pay for your Christmas present."
Ikohn4ever
03-15-2006, 08:52 AM
all PlayStation 3 games will ship on Blu-ray to help prevent piracy.
now does that mean that you can only use hdmi cables like the blu ray players for piracy reasons? Because if thats true, thats an even dumber idea than having to use the blu-ray dvd players with hdmi.
botticus
03-15-2006, 09:20 AM
I'm kinda in that boat. Sony puffs a lot of hot air, so I'll wait to see what comes about before I cheer/mock. They've gotta keep that price-point down, though. the 360 was pushing it with $400. If it's upwards of $500, that could be bad. "Johnny, what do you want for Christmas?" "A PS3!!!" "For the last time, we're not taking on a second car loan to pay for your Christmas present."
Moreso... a worldwide release is fine. But only if they have enough units. It's not going to help them much to hit the 06 holiday season in the US if they only have enough to mimic the 360 launch a year later.
evilmax17
03-15-2006, 09:37 AM
4D games? Not unless they're planning on shipping with one of these:
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5026/revolutioncontroller0tf.jpg
In any case, I'm pretty underwhelmed. I think the most interesting part of the whole conference is how MS and Sony completely switched positions re: HDD. I would say including a 60gig HDD helps Sony in terms of PS3 quality, but price potential just got a whole lot scarier...
mykevermin
03-15-2006, 09:46 AM
No way this hits street for less than $499.
QFT. If they deliver on their promises, then it's going to be one hell of a system.
I had been convinced that they would end up going back down to a dvd drive by launch, but since they've phrased the use of the Blu-Ray as for copy protection purposes, I'm less convinced that they'll downgrade now. It seems like a solid way to prevent piracy, and that's well and good (until it's inevitably breached - after all, it's not like a new disc format *coughumdcough* prevented piracy there); however, given the per unit price differential between a dvd drive and a blu-ray drive, I wonder how many extra titles they have to sell to make up the extra loss (incurred by using blu-ray)?
I hope the sons of bitches make the PS3 region unlocked for titles like the PSP; I never did understand the "portables are okay for region-free, but not consoles" mentality of the gaming industry.
I just finalized my account for one of the "Free PS3" pyramid schemes yesterday, so this is doubly exciting news. Now if those bastards could send me my Xbox 360! :lol:
Qui-Gon Jim
03-15-2006, 10:27 AM
I am fairly certain that PS3 will hook up to component, composite and s-video TVs. The addition of the HDMI port is just another way to hook it up. As far as BR-D for piracy, I think they are intimating that the new format, since it isn't yet cracked like DVD, wil be more "secure" to carry games.
BR-D for games and movies are two completely different beasts dressed in the same clothes. The region coding will probably be different for games than films, the HDMI restrictions for video output are not likely to be as restrictive for games etc.
Reality's Fringe
03-15-2006, 10:38 AM
-There's no way they're going to be able to launch worldwide without a more severe "360 idiocy" factor.
-Let's see, 4D gaming...Blast Processing, right?
-Upscaled old games. Good for people with HD (I guess?), but downloading those profiles doesn't sound like fun.
-Blue-Ray only! Oh, good! It's to prevent piracy, and only piracy...we swear.
-HDD required isn't bad since I hate memory cards and what not(and it's packed in), but if anyone will do something dubious with it you can bet it'll be Sony.
Why can't companies just stop bullshitting us? I'm looking at you too, Nintendo.
edit*From the Guardian and Kotaku:
Based upon past evidence, the assumption is that Sony needs to put together 10 million PS3s in order to have enough supply to meet demand in all territories. The Guardian estimates that this would require Sony to have already begun production of the PS3 and to produce a million consoles a month from January to November. That’s 50,000 per day.
But has production already started? How could it, with Blu-Ray still being an unagreed standard? Developers don’t even have final dev kits."
seanr1221
03-15-2006, 10:40 AM
So now consumers will have PS3 and Revolution for Christmas 2006? And you know Microsoft is gonna pull out some big shit for the holidays. A price drop Im guessing?
Oh well, I'd like to know the price of the PS3 though, Im shocked about the HDD standard.
CAG 79
03-15-2006, 11:09 AM
Here's another Kotaku tibbit from the press conference:
- Price will not be less than 50.000YEN (~$425USD)
Better start saving money now. :-s
Apossum
03-15-2006, 11:26 AM
the blu-ray security thing is obviously bullshit. they could've come up with a cheaper proprietary disc...it's worked for Nintendo.
but, I will pre-order one as soon as humanly possible and start saving....only knowing that I'll be able to sell it for as much or more if I don't like it.
b3b0p
03-15-2006, 11:47 AM
Trying to estimate the cost of certain components for Playstation 3 is a complete and total waste of time. Unless you are a deep insider, disclosing this information (and most likely breaking any NDA), it's pointless jabber. If this information is coming from an "analyst", it's also pointless, unless their sources are revealed in full.
I am a little disappointed that the PS3 is going to have a hard drive. I don't want hard drives in my consoles and DVD players (Blu-ray is part of the reason I'm getting one). It just makes them more unreliable, but at least it's upgradeable (we'll see how later). However, it does leave open many possibilities.
With the hard drive, I hope developers won't be tempted to release games early and buggy, only to release updates for download later (a la PC).
I hope that they open up their development documentation and certain tools (libraries/compiler). They mentioned it running Linux. If they opened up the development to independent developers, the Playstation 3 is the killer console in my opinion.
Not excited about the online stuff, but I hope it does not become a requirement for most games and the developers stick to focusing most of the effort on the single player or the offline aspects. If the games end up like Xbox, I'll only end up buying 1-2 games the entire life of the console (at least it can play Blu-ray).
Scorch
03-15-2006, 12:04 PM
It's sad that I'm considering getting a PSP just to play PS1 games. I'd probably be better off with a used PS2.. but the fact that you can play SNES games like Illusion of Gaia, Earthbound, Final Fantasy 2 and 3, etc.. man. And for $199.. ehhh...
ArthurDigbySellers
03-15-2006, 12:07 PM
4D games OMG! The price will be..... $500 + $70 BluRay-Rom games? HDMI output only? How else would Blu-Ray games stop piracy if it wasn't HDMI only output? It will only be time before the pirates figure out Modchips and burning/HDD games. Or will PS3 make you go online before you can play a game hence the no resale/renting of games?
The HDMI connection will probably only be required for Blu Ray movies. Since HDMI/HDCP attempts to stop unauthorized copying of digital content, it really only applies to movies.
I can't see any companies requiring a broadband connection to play games. Even though a lot more people have broadband access nowadays, it is still unreasonable to think that a majority of people actually connect their game consoles to the internet and play online. Xbox Live is still a prime example of this. The percentage of Xbox Live accounts compared to actual Xbox consoles sold is still very low.
There does seem to be a push for companies to figure out ways to limit game rentals and used game sales. Hell, even David Jaffe has stated in interviews that used game sales are killing the industry and that he thinks the model needs to be revamped.
b3b0p
03-15-2006, 12:46 PM
The HDMI connection will probably only be required for Blu Ray movies. Since HDMI/HDCP attempts to stop unauthorized copying of digital content, it really only applies to movies.
I can't see any companies requiring a broadband connection to play games. Even though a lot more people have broadband access nowadays, it is still unreasonable to think that a majority of people actually connect their game consoles to the internet and play online. Xbox Live is still a prime example of this. The percentage of Xbox Live accounts compared to actual Xbox consoles sold is still very low.
There does seem to be a push for companies to figure out ways to limit game rentals and used game sales. Hell, even David Jaffe has stated in interviews that used game sales are killing the industry and that he thinks the model needs to be revamped.
Sony announced recently that they will NOT down grade the output via analog outputs (e.g. component, VGA). Meaning, you can use an HDTV without HDMI or DVI/HDCP and get full resolution.
However, they did say, it will be up to the publishers. There is a flag that can be turned on that tells the player to shut off analog output (or at least full resolution analog output). This is encoded on the disk. Quite a few of the big name companies have said they don't plan to use it (Sony, Disney, Fox I believe).
slidecage
03-15-2006, 04:29 PM
So now consumers will have PS3 and Revolution for Christmas 2006? And you know Microsoft is gonna pull out some big shit for the holidays. A price drop Im guessing?
Oh well, I'd like to know the price of the PS3 though, Im shocked about the HDD standard.
depends on what sony and nintendo do and its way too early for MSFT to worry....
the PS3 could come out at 500-700 (guessing at price)
Nintendo could come out at 249-299
how many people will run out and spend another 500+ on another system right after spending 400+ on xbox ..... many people wasnt able to get there hands on an xbox so take this story
How many parents will run out and buy their kids a PS3 for 500 bucks when they just paid 400+ for an xbox in MAY 2006
one nice thing is you might see tons of used xbox 360 flood the market.... Im glad i waited I came within 10 seconds of buying a PSP yesterday for 250
i was able to grab a 32 mb card off someone here for 5 bucks
I was able to grab a metal case for the PSP for 1 buck at walmart before xmas
wouldnt use the head phones
so i should end up with the system + memory card + case for 206 bucks WOO
and the best thing is we dont have to wait till E3 for the price drops....
they said end of MARCH so im guessing the week of March 26?? hopefully this sunday but probally wont be till the 26th
it would be nice if the gamedown loads would start AT E3 but that is very doubtful ...... BUT just think of how much press sony would get with all the people trying to download games that day
One major question though.... Where does this leave sony at E3... it seems they let all the news out and there is really nothing really worth looking forward too for SONY NEWS AT E3 RIGHT??
elwood731
03-15-2006, 04:47 PM
One major question though.... Where does this leave sony at E3... it seems they let all the news out and there is really nothing really worth looking forward too for SONY NEWS AT E3 RIGHT??
Well, there's the most important thing--games! Plus, I imagine Sony will have a demo of their online service to show us, and with 60 GB of HD space, doesn't it sound like Sony may be putting TiVO like services into their system? Just a thought. If they have downloadable PS1 games for the PSP, then we'll see the same for the PS3 I'm sure. That will be huge if they get the big exclusives from Square, but now with zero loading times? The entire Metal Gear series downloadable on your PS3 the day it launches?
Plus, as noted, the games. We've seen tech demos of very few PS3 games. I imagine they will hit E3 with far more force than MS did last year simply because they have to.
slidecage
03-15-2006, 04:50 PM
Well, there's the most important thing--games! Plus, I imagine Sony will have a demo of their online service to show us, and with 60 GB of HD space, doesn't it sound like Sony may be putting TiVO like services into their system? Just a thought. If they have downloadable PS1 games for the PSP, then we'll see the same for the PS3 I'm sure. That will be huge if they get the big exclusives from Square, but now with zero loading times? The entire Metal Gear series downloadable on your PS3 the day it launches?
Plus, as noted, the games. We've seen tech demos of very few PS3 games. I imagine they will hit E3 with far more force than MS did last year simply because they have to.
60 GB is nothing if you talking about a Tivo like system and you have other stuff you need to save to it..... right now comcast has a 120 GB DVR system and that is almost outdated
talk is TIVO is going to be putting out a 300 hour system this fall.. Comcast is already at work testing out 160 to 240 GB system they hope to have release by this winter
So you can see a 60GB would be way too small to record tv shows on (unless you delete everything you record)
60 GB hard drive would = around 20 hours of record time Maybe 30 hours tops
doraemonkerpal
03-15-2006, 05:58 PM
here is gamespot's article on the press conference basically stating the same thing:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6145972.html
slidecage
03-15-2006, 06:06 PM
anyone notice they didnt mention a PS2 price drop ....... so you can almost count that no price drop at E3 . Why would they tell the PSP price drop but not the PS2 if one was coming
Called up ebgames and gamestop and both said they have no clue what im talking about the 199 system... and they have no clue When or IF they will get them
doraemonkerpal
03-15-2006, 06:11 PM
here's a related article on the ps3 online service (similar to xbox live):
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6145981.html
Basic services for the PSNP will initially be free, like Xbox Live Silver. However, unlike Microsoft's entry-level online service, which doesn't allow gameplay, the basic level of PSNP will provide gamers with the necessary services and functions required for online gaming, according to Kutaragi. Also unlike Xbox Live, the PlayStation Network Platform will allow licensees to connect their own game servers to the network. SCE will provide a common infrastructure for the service, but the PSNP will use the standard Internet. Unlike with Xbox Live, licensees will be able to connect their own game servers to the PSNP.
PlayStation Network Platform will feature the standard set of communication and gameplay functionalities, including video chat, messaging, matchmaking, ranking, and game data upload and download. PS3 owners will also be able to purchase content via an Xbox Live Marketplace-like download service.
anomynous
03-15-2006, 06:18 PM
the ps3 cures blindness
Sony announced recently that they will NOT down grade the output via analog outputs (e.g. component, VGA). Meaning, you can use an HDTV without HDMI or DVI/HDCP and get full resolution.
However, they did say, it will be up to the publishers. There is a flag that can be turned on that tells the player to shut off analog output (or at least full resolution analog output). This is encoded on the disk. Quite a few of the big name companies have said they don't plan to use it (Sony, Disney, Fox I believe).
Link?
I have read this.
http://gear.ign.com/articles/691/691408p1.html
And also since then I read that "Sony movies" will not use HDCP downscaling. What worries me is I have not read anything official.
Dr Mario Kart
03-15-2006, 06:37 PM
the ps3 cures blindness
The graphics are SO good, that the PS3 will MAKE you see them.
Apossum
03-15-2006, 06:59 PM
the ps3 cures blindness
it also turns everyone around you into a horny anime chick with big bouncy boobs.
Monsta Mack
03-15-2006, 07:16 PM
I can't wait to pre-order this baby and put it on eBay.
Cha-Ching!
World Wide launch = disaster. It's gonna be so understocked :)
elwood731
03-15-2006, 08:18 PM
60 GB is nothing if you talking about a Tivo like system and you have other stuff you need to save to it..... right now comcast has a 120 GB DVR system and that is almost outdated
talk is TIVO is going to be putting out a 300 hour system this fall.. Comcast is already at work testing out 160 to 240 GB system they hope to have release by this winter
So you can see a 60GB would be way too small to record tv shows on (unless you delete everything you record)
60 GB hard drive would = around 20 hours of record time Maybe 30 hours tops
20 to 30 hours is more than most people have now, however. Also, all the more reason to talk people into upgrading their hard drives. I know for people on here 300 hours seems better, but most normal people 20-30 hours would be a lot. I had an 80 hour TiVO that was fine copying several shows a week, assuming I deleted them.
If Sony were to do this, then they would likely make it easy to transfer the shows to your PSP to watch on the go. Gives them a leg up on Apple.
slidecage
03-15-2006, 08:42 PM
20 to 30 hours is more than most people have now, however. Also, all the more reason to talk people into upgrading their hard drives. I know for people on here 300 hours seems better, but most normal people 20-30 hours would be a lot. I had an 80 hour TiVO that was fine copying several shows a week, assuming I deleted them.
If Sony were to do this, then they would likely make it easy to transfer the shows to your PSP to watch on the go. Gives them a leg up on Apple.
i got a 120 GB hard drive right now and its sitting at 92% filled .. cause im too lazy to watch what i tape :)
b3b0p
03-15-2006, 09:48 PM
Link?
I have read this.
http://gear.ign.com/articles/691/691408p1.html
And also since then I read that "Sony movies" will not use HDCP downscaling. What worries me is I have not read anything official.
Part of the relevent quote:
In an important aside, Don Eklund, SPHE's senior vice president for advanced technologies, said that Sony's initial Blu-ray discs — and all of its Blu-ray titles for the forseeable future — will be free of the "Image Constraint Token" that's built into the Blu-ray and HD DVD standards.
A Link: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=1324
Reality's Fringe
03-15-2006, 10:32 PM
Microsoft responded to the press conference with this little quoteable quote:
"[...]We’ve blasted out of the gate with the greatest launch in the history of video games[...]"
I thought that was pretty funny.
Kfoster1979
03-16-2006, 12:29 AM
Microsoft responded to the press conference with this little quoteable quote:
"[...]We’ve blasted out of the gate with the greatest launch in the history of video games[...]"
I thought that was pretty funny.
Very Funny.... Maybe Sony will learn from that but I doubt it
GizmoGC
03-16-2006, 02:43 AM
anyone notice they didnt mention a PS2 price drop ....... so you can almost count that no price drop at E3 . Why would they tell the PSP price drop but not the PS2 if one was coming
Called up ebgames and gamestop and both said they have no clue what im talking about the 199 system... and they have no clue When or IF they will get them
The $199 is not in effect till the end o the month, and was only announced houts ago. You actually think EB would know? Idiot.
Kendal
03-16-2006, 03:06 AM
For a second I was actually getting excited about the PS3, then I remembered I am damn poor and am not spending that kind of money on a system. Also a great time to get a new PSP. Well at least replace the one I traded in. I am glad I kept all my extras from my PSP, that remote dealie is a good thing to have.
seanr1221
03-16-2006, 11:08 AM
I have a question about the PS3 playing PS1/PS2 games in HD. I thought the 360 could play xbox games in HD because of the emulation....sooo is PS3 emulating all its games or what? Anyone know these kind of things?
slidecage
03-16-2006, 12:00 PM
The $199 is not in effect till the end o the month, and was only announced houts ago. You actually think EB would know? Idiot.
think again ........ friend came home last night and the eb worker told them they knew it already (at another store i didnt call)
they come out MARCH 22 they plan on having the codes into the system by friday
evanft
03-16-2006, 01:29 PM
I have a question about the PS3 playing PS1/PS2 games in HD. I thought the 360 could play xbox games in HD because of the emulation....sooo is PS3 emulating all its games or what? Anyone know these kind of things?
Well, the PS2 emulated PS1 games with hardware, as it had the PS1 chipset within it, so maybe that's what they're doing with the PS3.
graf1k
03-16-2006, 01:31 PM
I have a question about the PS3 playing PS1/PS2 games in HD. I thought the 360 could play xbox games in HD because of the emulation....sooo is PS3 emulating all its games or what? Anyone know these kind of things?
According the that conference, it definitely sounds like a PS3 will play all PS1 & PS2 games with some kind of enhanced graphics. Whether it's HD or just progresive scan or something like that, I don't think anyone knows for sure.
I haven't tried playing Xbox games on my 360 but it's well known not all games are compatible yet, and only a select few feature any graphical enhancement (Halo 2 is the only one I know of). Emulation is more difficult for the 360 because among other things, the GPU in the Xbox was Nvidia and the one in the 360 is ATi and apparently most games need a patch to work properly.
evanft
03-16-2006, 01:38 PM
According the that conference, it definitely sounds like a PS3 will play all PS1 & PS2 games with some kind of enhanced graphics. Whether it's HD or just progresive scan or something like that, I don't think anyone knows for sure.
I haven't tried playing Xbox games on my 360 but it's well known not all games are compatible yet, and only a select few feature any graphical enhancement (Halo 2 is the only one I know of). Emulation is more difficult for the 360 because among other things, the GPU in the Xbox was Nvidia and the one in the 360 is ATi and apparently most games need a patch to work properly.
Exactly. Sony owns the components in the PS2, so it would be very easy for them to simply slap in the chips from that system into the PS3 and use them for I/O or something, just like what they did with the PS1 BC on the PS2.
Qui-Gon Jim
03-17-2006, 11:56 AM
The comments made about HDMI, ICT and Component resolutions are correct save for one quibble.
As of now, both BR and HD will allow 1080i over the analog connections, and the software publisher (movie studios) will have the option of invoking the ICT (Image Constraint Token) to reduce the resolution over analog to 480P. This can be done on a title-by-title basis and no one has said they plan on using it, for now.
In order to get full resolution, as someone called it (1080p) the systems (HD and BR) will need to be connected via HDCP enabled HDMI to a display capable of caryying a 1080p signal.
Of course, this has little bearing on games. I am sure all games will run at 1080i over analog and 1080p over HDMI.