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Zenithian Legend

03-16-2006, 02:44 AM

Say hello to The Crippler

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Perhaps the most respected wrestler in the WWE today (along with Kurt Angle), Chris Benoit has made a living by being one of the most technically sound wrestlers ever. His incredible work rate and ability to successfully incorporate a variety of submission manuevers into his matches have made him one of the best.

He was born Chris Benoit on May 21, 1967 in Montreal, Canada. Then later moved to Edmonton with his family as a child. Upon graduation from high school he began to make the 3 and a half hour drive down to Calgary on a daily basis to begin his wrestling education in Stu Hart's dungeon.

Benoit then competed as a member of Stampede wrestling for awhile before he began touring all of Canada, Mexico and Japan as the Pegasus Kid. Benoit achieved mild success wrestling in Stampede winning the tag titles and Mid-Heavweight title on several occasions. He achieved international success in 1990 by defeating Jushin Liger for the IWGP Junior Heavyweight title in Japan and then in early 1991 in Mexico by defeating Valliano III for the UWA World Light-Heavyweight title.

Chris Benoit's next move was to the WCW, however he struggled to move up the card there and was released within a year. So, he signed with the ECW. Benoit found some success in ECW, feuding with Sabu and then winning the ECW Tag Team titles with Dean Malenko, however he soon after left to go back to Japan.

On his second major tour of Japan, The Pegasus Kid had many great matches with The Black Tiger (Eddie Guerrero), and eventually received a WWF try-out. However, in 1996 Benoit, along with Guerrero, joined the WCW instead.

Benoit's second run with WCW was far more successful as soon after his arrival he joined the Four Horsemen and began a feud with Kevin Sullivan... that spilled off camera. Benoit was taken with Kevin Sullivan's real wife "Woman" in WCW, and eventually she divorced Sullivan and married Chris Benoit (and you thought Edge was bad). After a brutal feud with Kevin Sullivan concluded, Benoit went on to feud with many of his friends from Japan and ECW, including Chris Jericho and Dean Malenko.

Benoit would resume fighting Kevin Sullivan again finally defeating him in a retirement match at the 1997 WCW Bash at the Beach. Benoit continued feuding with Dean Malenko, and unsuccessfully atempted to take the US Title from DDP on numerous occasions. Following that, Chris Benoit defeated Booker T at a house show for the TV title (the irony) but shortly after lost it back to him at another house show. In June of 1998, Benoit and Booker T began their infamous "Best of 7" series for the WCW TV Title. Later that year Ric Flair returned and reformed the Four Horsemen with Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko and Steve MiMichael.

Benoit began to fade into the WCW Tag division as politics ran rampant and stars like Hogan, Nash, and Goldberg ran the show. Fortunately Benoit and Malenko were able to capture the tag titles for a brief period of time.

Lucky for the Crippler his run in the tag division was fairly short, and in August of 1999 he defeated David Flair for the US Title, only to drop it a month later to Sid Vicious. However, the next night on Nitro Benoit defeated Rick Steiner for the TV Title. The chaotic state of WCW was at play though, and the title went back to Steiner a month later. Benoit then defeated Scott Hall to win the US Title back, dropping it again less than two weeks later to Jeff Jarrett.

It became clear to Benoit that WCW was headed in the wrong direction. Despite his intentions to leave the company he defeated Sid Vicious for the WCW World Title, only to part ways with WCW the very next day.

On an early 2000 episode of Raw, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero and Perry Saturn debuted as The Radicalz.

Beniot didn't have to wait nearly as long to win gold in the WWF as he did in the WCW. At Wrestlemania 2000 he defeated Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho in a triple threat match to win Kurt's Intercontinental title, and unlike WCW he'd hold the title until June 21st when he dropped it to Rikishi.

Benoit continued to feud with many of the main eventers in the WWF, including Chris Jericho, The Undertaker, Triple H and at that time the WWF Champion The Rock. Yet he was pushed back down to the upper-middle card shortly after.

At Armageddon 2000, Benoit defeated Billy Gunn to win the IC Title again, but shortly after dropped it to Chris Jericho at the Royal Rumble. Benoit again appeared to be going nowhere, until good fortune kicked in again and he began a huge feud with Kurt Angle.

Benoit and Kurt fought in a series of amazing matches at every major ppv from Wrestlemania X-7, to their 30 Minute Submission Iron Match at Backlash 2001, and finally their 2 out of 3 falls match at Judgement Day.

After finishing his feud with Kurt it was apparent that Benoit was destined for better things, and he returned to the title picture feuding with Steve Austin. Then tragedy struck and Benoit was sigelined for a year with a severe neck injury.

When Benoit returned the WWF was gone, as the company had turned into the WWE and Benoit was drafted to the Smackdown Brand; however, Benoit began his comeback by assaulting Steve Austin on Raw, the man who had sidelined him with the neck injury (although in reality it was an injury that had bothered him for years), and then turning on Ric Flair to team with Eddie Guerrero.

Benoit then defeats RVD for the IC title on a July episode of Raw, before jumping to Smackdown, with the belt. Benoit drops the belt back to RVD at Summerslam. Benoit then begins his quest for the WWE Title.

After feuding with Taker, Kurt Angle (again), Edge, Rikishi and Rey Mysterio Benoit seems destined for another title shot, but instead he ends up winning the tag titles with Kurt Angle. Many begin to wonder if Benoit will ever get another World Title shot.

Finally, at Armageddon 2002, Benoit defeats longtime friend Eddie Guerrero to win an Undisputed title shot. On the next episode of Smackdown Chris Benoit defeats the Undisputed Champ Kurt Angle in a non-title match. Benoit continues his feud with Kurt, but never wins the title and is eventually pushed back down the card due to the emergence of Brock Lesnar.

2003 came and went as Benoit sat in the upper-mid card never getting a shot at the gold again, until he finally defeated John Cena to get a title shot at Brock Lesnar, Lesnar would win...

Enter 2004, with many having written Benoit off for good as one of those great superstars who would NEVER win the big one.

On January 25, 2004, Chris Benoit entered the Royal Rumble at #1. Benoit stunned the world and won the Royal Rumble, and earned a WWE Title shot at Wrestlemania XX.

Benoit then jumps over to Raw, declaring he will face Triple H at Wrestlemania, alas Shawn Michaels interferes in matters and decides that it should be HE who faces Triple H at Wrestlemania. So, for the first time ever we have a triple threat main event headlining Wrestlemania. At this point most have again ruled Benoit out as the potential champion, as now HBK or HHH can pin each other and Benoit can come so close, yet fall just short again.

Benoit continues winning matches, building momentum headed into Wrestlemania XX with clean wins over Ric Flair, Mark Henry, Matt Hardy and even Batista. Finally Wrestlemania XX arrives.

The conclusion of the championship match sees Chris Benoit tossing Shawn Michaels, in a symbolic manner, as if to say he's eliminated the final opponent from the Rumble standing in his way of the title, and then does the unthinkable and makes Triple H tap out. Chris Benoit is the WWE World Champion. An emotional celebration with long-time friend Eddie Guerrero ensues.

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Chris Benoit had finally proven everyone wrong, by winning the big one.

Benoit wasn't content though. Only a month later, he and Edge won the World Ta Team titles, and successfully defended both them and his World Championship for over a month.

Benoit defended his title several more times successfully against Triple H, including in a 60 man Iron Man match on Raw. But, it was Triple H's disciple Randy Orton, who brought an end to Benoit's reign at Summerslam.

Since then the rest of Benoit's career reads like a re-run. You're all familiar with the song and dance, he continues to threaten at the title, only to be pushed back down the card again. Along the way he has feuded with the same handful of opponents again and again, once and awhile adding a new name to the list of tap-out victims. The various titles have come and gone, and many begin to wonder if Benoit will ever hold the WWE Title again. Fortunately, no one will wonder if Benoit will ever win the big one at all.

Some of Benoit's matches:

Pegasus Kid vs Black Tiger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzjdMsu99uM&search=chris%20benoit)

Pegasus Kid vs Black Tiger II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usii3HfaHhs&search=chris%20benoit)

Benoit & Malenko vs Guerrero & Jericho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12v4XyOHlc&search=chris%20benoit)

Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle in a 30 minute Iron Man match (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNQQVqp7sOg&search=chris%20benoit)

Scorch

03-16-2006, 03:07 AM

Good choice

ZeroSupporT

03-16-2006, 03:14 AM

You should be a coorespondent

Genocidal

03-16-2006, 03:43 AM

Been watching a lot of old ECW Hardcore TV episodes from late 96/early 97 and Benoit gets mentioned a good 2-3 times every show when they show the commercials for Extreme Warfare Vol. 1. Everytime I see him break Sabu's neck it amazes me that the damage wasn't worse. On that note...

Benoit breaks Sabu's neck (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UsFl8V0VEQI)

Just upped, not sure how long it'll take to get approved or how long it'll stay up.

Graystone

03-16-2006, 04:24 AM

BEST wrestling topic evaaar.

2Fast

03-16-2006, 04:41 AM

I still think it is beyond dumb that the Benoit/Booker T feud doesn't get a final send-off at Wrestlemania.

Great choice for the topic ZL.

Zenithian Legend

03-16-2006, 05:29 AM

You and me both, WWE dropped the ball on that one big time. One FINAL Benoit vs Booker T match, 2 out of 3 falls, then after WM send Booker back to Raw during the next roster change.

mykevermin

03-16-2006, 09:05 AM

GuilewasNK

03-16-2006, 11:05 AM

Whoops, didn't see this topic here.

You got a couple of red X's.

I think this might have been one of the pics...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8500/518sg.jpg

AdamInPlaidum

03-16-2006, 11:06 AM

GuilewasNK

03-16-2006, 11:12 AM

Just saw those Candace Michelle photos (thanks Guile...kinda).

I realized while looking at them that the reason Gail Kim's nude photos for the Korean cell phone company were so good was because she looked like she was having a fun time doing them. Would it kill some of these bitches to crack a smile?

EXACTLY.:applause:

I never understood why a smile is frowned upon.

That's why I can't usally can't stand Playboy stuff. No smiliing, just typical euro-fashion model crap expressions and poses. Terrible lighting.

The Gail Kim photos weren't airbrushed to death and there was nice bright lighting and looked like she was having fun.

In general, the best photos of Divas have always been from other mags like Maxim and Stuff.

guyver2077

03-16-2006, 11:22 AM

niceguyshawne

03-16-2006, 11:24 AM

Could you PM the Candice pics to me please?

Also Gail's if anyone has them.

Scorch

03-16-2006, 11:25 AM

I never understood why a smile is frowned upon.

because seductive looks sell magazines, not smiles

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/american_wedding/eugene_levy/americanwedding.jpg

"See this one? She's saying.. hey there.. hey big boy!"

onetrackmind

03-16-2006, 11:44 AM

GuilewasNK

03-16-2006, 12:19 PM

Hogan was on Howard Stern this morning... most the interview focused on Brooke who was also there but he also touched on some good stuff. And told a couple old stories. I also find it funny that he fucked up don vito after he gropped brooke.

Dude must have had a death wish. I wonder if Hogan will appear at Wrestlemania?

niceguyshawne

03-16-2006, 12:25 PM

Thanks Guile.

Danro

03-16-2006, 12:30 PM

Benoit definitely deserves another reign as champ, besides Angle, hes the only other one who could bring credibility to the title. Excellent topic.

onetrackmind

03-16-2006, 12:31 PM

Dude must have had a death wish. I wonder if Hogan will appear at Wrestlemania?

Hogan busted Don Vito open supposedly. Hogan also talked about other times were he got pissed off and legitimately hurt someone. They said they wanted to bring him back in to just talk about old road stories.

Hogan didnt mention WM at all, but it would be awesome to see him there. I still mark out to Hogan.

GuilewasNK

03-16-2006, 12:38 PM

If you run, you can survive a Hogasm. Hulk has some bad wheels. If he gets a hold of you you're SHAQ-FU'D!

onetrackmind

03-16-2006, 01:10 PM

Pulled this from a site...

"In yet another interview with Bubba The Love Sponge, Hulk Hogan said that his only scheduled role for WrestleMania weekend is to induct "Mean" Gene Okerlund into the Hall Of Fame. Hogan told Vince recently, "If anything comes up interesting, match wise or an opponent, give me a shout-out and we'll see if we can hook it up." The Hulkster said he has yet to hear back about a match possibility. Reports, however, suggest that Hulk Hogan turned down the possibility of a "Legends Match" with Greg "The Hammer" Valentine. Other reports state that WWE was, at one point, looking into running either Hulk Hogan vs. The Big Show or Hulk Hogan vs. Dalip. It is not known if he was ever actually offered one of those opponents."

I also know that hogan was pitching an Austin/Hogan Match for WM but never heard anything more about it.

CaseyRyback

03-16-2006, 01:32 PM

LOL anyone see that Simon Diamond went to CWS training camp to fuck with AJ and Torberg? Ozzie Guillen came in and gave him a chair shot after he demanded a roster spot

mykevermin

03-16-2006, 01:49 PM

AdamInPlaidum

03-16-2006, 01:57 PM

whoa have a link to gails pics...

and thanks guile for the links..

Just search for them in Google Image Search. They are super easy to find.

AdamInPlaidum

03-16-2006, 02:03 PM

Got a link to that? That sounds excellent. Now if they could only (1) get rid of David Young entirely and (2) give the Diamonds an opportunity (c'mon, you're telling me you can't use Elix Fucking Skipper in a higher spot than jobber?!?!)

David Young is, without a doubt, the most boring person on the entire TNA roster. As Matt Morgan would say, he s-s-sucks.

Zenithian Legend

03-16-2006, 02:37 PM

Whoops, didn't see this topic here.

You got a couple of red X's.

I think this might have been one of the pics...

argh, I had a feeling the pictures didn't load properly, hopefully CAG is back to functioning properly today, I'll try to edit those immediately

EDIT: The middle picture just is not correcting itself, lame... I'm gonna try to go through imageshack methinks

CaseyRyback

03-16-2006, 02:47 PM

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/wrestling/14096453.htm

I guess it was an Impact spoiler since this article mentions it showing on this weeks show. I saw it on Cold Pizza which is why I mentioned it

Zenithian Legend

03-16-2006, 02:49 PM

At last night's OVW taping, Henry Godwin made his return in a dark match
:shock: I can't even say anything to that. I suppose I *can* say that I hope whomever wrote that made a simple mistake, and it's not the same person. If it really is, then I'm convinced that the WWE really hates its fans, because there would be no other way that could happen in a world where wrestling companies want to make their fans happy.

On the contrary Myke, that's great. If I'm not mistaken H.O.G. suffered a major injury that was supposed to be career ending, so it's nice to see he's recovering. Hopefully this means the return of Mideon as well!

GuilewasNK

03-16-2006, 03:13 PM

LOL anyone see that Simon Diamond went to CWS training camp to fuck with AJ and Torberg? Ozzie Guillen came in and gave him a chair shot after he demanded a roster spot

I saw it this morning on Cold Pizza too. Funny stuff.

mykevermin

03-16-2006, 03:17 PM

On the contrary Myke, that's great. If I'm not mistaken H.O.G. suffered a major injury that was supposed to be career ending, so it's nice to see he's recovering. Hopefully this means the return of Mideon as well!

While I don't wish harm upon (most) wrestlers, that doesn't mean that I want to see them on my tv. By your logic, you'd be happy if WWE signed back Sid Vicious?

guyver2077

03-16-2006, 03:31 PM

I saw it this morning on Cold Pizza too. Funny stuff.

i wanna see that... thats funny.

Metal Boss

03-16-2006, 06:14 PM

Check out that guys arms, they're as stubby as one of andre the giants turds!

Roufuss

03-16-2006, 06:24 PM

This thread has made me realize how far Chris Benoit has fallen.

The man needs a major push in a bad way. I remember how major it was when he first came to WWE, and now hes kind of been pushed down to midcard status.

Zenithian Legend

03-16-2006, 06:34 PM

While I don't wish harm upon (most) wrestlers, that doesn't mean that I want to see them on my tv. By your logic, you'd be happy if WWE signed back Sid Vicious?

Hmm, yes I suppose by that logic I'd be happy to see Sid back, but like in most cases my logic is circumstantial. In the case of Mark Cantebury, I felt bad for the guy having his career cut short. In the case of Sid, I thought it was probably for the best. This is the guy who attempted to ruin the end of Wrestlemania afterall. Sid has always been out for only Sid, although I would be interested to see what WWE would do with him today. Hell, I'd rather see Sid on Smackdown, than say Mark Henry. I'm sure they'd work for the same price too...

Danro

03-16-2006, 08:06 PM

Hmm, yes I suppose by that logic I'd be happy to see Sid back, but like in most cases my logic is circumstantial. In the case of Mark Cantebury, I felt bad for the guy having his career cut short. In the case of Sid, I thought it was probably for the best. This is the guy who attempted to ruin the end of Wrestlemania afterall. Sid has always been out for only Sid, although I would be interested to see what WWE would do with him today. Hell, I'd rather see Sid on Smackdown, than say Mark Henry. I'm sure they'd work for the same price too...

I agree with you regarding HOG's career. I was hoping the WWE would further develop Southern Justice when I first saw them debut. Excellent team.

Zenithian Legend

03-16-2006, 08:40 PM

CaseyRyback

03-16-2006, 10:00 PM

http://www.tnawrestling.com/news/fullnews2.php?all=539

TNA put up a story about Simon Diamond going to spring training

hopesfall

03-16-2006, 10:49 PM

Remember when ol' H.O.G. first debuted ? Yes, a pig farmer gimmick...genius, just plain genius!

mykevermin

03-16-2006, 11:16 PM

Oh man I nearly forgot about Southern Justice. They could've been great, but I believe that was when Mark C/Henry O got hurt, Mideon fell to the darkside (nothing like Vader) and the angle was scrapped. I'd much rather see Southern Justice as Vince McMahon's lackeys than the Spirit Squad. Yet, it seems today that WWE's product is no longer out to entertain, but to insult, annoy and cater to Vince McMahon's perverted fantasies.

Anywho, WM Hall of Fame spoiler, the next inductee is:

The Blackjacks, ya... odd choice

An odd choice but one that I like. I was a fan of...how shall I say this to avoid the spoilers (much like the way I tried to post Henry Godwin in a spoiler yet everybody responded to it w/out spoiler tags)? I really was rooting for the most recent derivative of that inductee, and was rather upset that it never worked out.

Will

03-16-2006, 11:47 PM

Hogan was on Howard Stern this morning... most the interview focused on Brooke who was also there but he also touched on some good stuff. And told a couple old stories. I also find it funny that he fucked up don vito after he gropped brooke.

I gotta say after hearing him on the radio between Howard and Bubba, Hogan seems to be a pretty decent down to earth guy. I honestly pictured him as some ex wrestling great constatnly throwing diva fits.

Will

03-16-2006, 11:48 PM

Hogan busted Don Vito open supposedly. Hogan also talked about other times were he got pissed off and legitimately hurt someone. They said they wanted to bring him back in to just talk about old road stories.

Hogan didnt mention WM at all, but it would be awesome to see him there. I still mark out to Hogan.

He said he's gonna be there for the HOF stuff but wasnt ruling out a match the next night. He mentioned one WM where he wasnt suppose to wrestle but at the last sec did.

Demolition Man

03-17-2006, 12:37 AM

I realized while looking at them that the reason Gail Kim's nude photos for the Korean cell phone company were so good was because she looked like she was having a fun time doing them. Would it kill some of these bitches to crack a smile?

Wait a second.... you mean to tell me there are NUDES of Gail Kim out there and nobody ever told me about them?

Link please? :drool: :drool: :drool:

Demolition Man

03-17-2006, 12:40 AM

Some interesting TNA rumors from Gerwick.net... they tend to be very spotty with their reports so take this with a pinch of salt.

Reports have indicated that Jeff Jarrett has been extremely moody in recent weeks. Some have stated that he has been heard in the back praising the extended contracts that were offered to AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels a while back and then moments later complain about how much they are being paid and that it was a bad move. While this is not being reported as fact, Jeff Jarrett is allegedly hooked on Xanax as well as using recreational drugs such as cocaine after shows. Whiles drugs and wrestling are not uncommon bed fellows, in a recent interview Dixie Carter stated that the only abuser of any drugs in TNA was Raven. It seems funny for Carter to single out one wrestler when it has been reported and confirmed by a number of sources that these actions are not done solely by Jarrett, but he has been known to participate in these activities with other members of the roster after shows at the Double Tree Hotel in Orlando. Seems like TNA may want to take a page out of the WWE’s book and begin random Drug Testing. With that being said, TNA would be hard pressed to punish other users if actions are not addressed with their “premier talent.”

- BG James recently addressed a payment issue with Jeff Jarrett. BG and Jarrett go way back to the days of Double J and the Roadie back in ’94. BG was so loyal to Jeff in fact, that back in ’94, BG left the then WWF with Jarrett over a situation between Jeff and the WWF. The payment issue that arose was that BG wanted both Kip and he to receive equal pay. Kip came on later as a “Premier Talent” and was offered a substantially larger amount of money than what BG first came on for, again sighting his closeness with Jarrett. BG offered the argument that they have made millions of dollars together in the past and the amount of money asked was minimal given the return the two of them could draw. Jeff refused to pay BG anymore money. After an exchange of words, Jarrett said he would take the money that he was giving to Kip and give it to BG and that BG could explain to Kip why he is making less money. BG said if he does that he will walk from TNA.

- Speaking of BG, he and many others in the TNA locker room are not fans of Bubba Ray. In fact, he has called the former ECW and WWE tag team champion a “bully” and a “pussy.” He was heard telling the boys that “Bubba is a bully in the ring but if you hit him back, he is a pussy and won't do anything back to you”. Bubba has been criticized heavily in the back since their September debut with TNA. Some of the most evident liberties that he has taken include the chops in the leg to AMW in their first match on Spike TV as well as the beatings he put on Eric Young of Team Canada. Young was scene sporting a few welts on his face and chest following their match up with Team 3D on the Impact Primetime Special. Bubba continues to garner criticism for costing Team 3D politically and financially. Bubba was fingered as the cause to why they ended negotiations with WWE as well as the vocal one burying the WWE as well as other instances like claiming to need a raise in pay after “winning” a tournament in Japan. Many feel that Bubba is strictly going through the motions. Several sources have indicated that Bubba has not only lost a step in the ring, but has let himself go physically as well. On the flip side, D-Von is well liked and respected. One of the more interesting moments took place in September when D-Von approached Gail Kim to apologize for yanking her hair so hard during their debut match. Gail Kim responded rather snobbish stating that she was a worker, but D-Von again apologized none the less.

- Andy Douglas of the Naturals is in the doghouse for an incident that occurred at a recent Hermie Sadler UWF/TNA show. It was reported that Douglas was not at the hotel as required to catch the shuttle to the airport for their next show.

- Despite several reports, Lance Hoyt is not being sent to Puerto Rico as a means of punishment for his match with Matt Bentley this past Sunday at Destination X. Sources have indicated that the opportunity was presented to Hoyt prior to his match.

- Sources have also indicated that PWInsider’s Mike Johnson is given TNA information directly from TNA’s own Jeremy Borash. Borash who is a close friend of Jarrett’s and previews to a lot of insider information, has handed information over as a favor to help promote his own agenda. Borash used PWInsider to assist him in selling his Forever Hardcore DVD, and as a result, he allowed Johnson to appear as an on camera expert on ECW. Who is responsible for leaking more information than Borash? The answer Scott D’Amore, who frequents “The Landing Strip” Strip Club in Detroit. D'Amore has been sited in several stories from locals for leaking key storylines and swerves during his several visits there.

- Following GERWECK.NET breaking the Sting coming to TNA story (while other “reliable” sources tried to down play it or report it as a “rumor”), information within in the company has been tightly guarded. More often than not, the wrestlers are not informed of the direction of the show nor are they informed on who is coming. In fact, Scott Steiner wasn't backstage at the Destination X PPV like previous stars such as Christian Cage. Steiner arrived shortly before his planned spot and allowed no time for Internet reports to pick up on it.

- TNA decided to run a house show in Detroit since many on the card are able to drive to the arena (Sabin, Petey Williams, Rhino, etc.)

- TNA agents are told to refrain from socializing with the talent and distance themselves from them as much as possible.

- Many within the TNA locker room feel they are underpaid and under utilized. Many have approached management with pay increase requests of a few more dollars only to be welcomed with the canned statement “We cannot afford that right now. We are $22 Million in the hole right now”. Several of the wrestlers are deeply offended because shortly there after, TNA usually signs a “premier talent” to an inflated rate of pay, most of the time several times over the annual rate of pay of the talents that are responsible for putting the company on the map.

- The standard TNA contract is a 1 year contract with an option to roll over into year 2 and year 3. TNA can only roll into the next year of the contract if the talent is contacted in writing 90 days prior to the expiration. If TNA fails to notify the talent anytime after the 90 day period, the talent reserves the right to negotiate a new contract or to decline resigning with the company. At no time can the talent opt out of the contract prior to the 90 day period nor can they refuse re-opting of the contract if notified within the 90 period. In layman's terms, if after 9 months TNA doesn't let the talent know they are being resigned to an additional year, they are free to negotiate with TNA and outside companies such as the WWE. TNA has tried to remove this clause from many of the new contracts because all too often the talents are signed at different times and it becomes tough on management to not let someone slip through their fingers. Examples of this happening in recent years including Abyss, Monty Brown, AJ Styles, and Sonny Siaki who opted not to re-sign and head to the WWE instead.

AdamInPlaidum

03-17-2006, 01:22 AM

Wait a second.... you mean to tell me there are NUDES of Gail Kim out there and nobody ever told me about them?

Link please? :drool: :drool: :drool:

As I said before, a quick Google Image Search (with the SafeSearch filter turned off) will yield immediate results.

Zenithian Legend

03-17-2006, 03:11 AM

I gotta say after hearing him on the radio between Howard and Bubba, Hogan seems to be a pretty decent down to earth guy. I honestly pictured him as some ex wrestling great constatnly throwing diva fits.

Ever catch his show on VH1? Comes off the same way on that show as well, which I believe is headed into its second season right now.

Zenithian Legend

03-17-2006, 12:06 PM

oh for fuck's sake, Vince is apparently re-signing Mark Jindrak too

Maybe Skinner will be next

ECW_fan

03-17-2006, 12:13 PM

Maybe Skinner will be next
I belive he has been working for the WWE for a bit, just back stage.

EDIT: yeah he has been an agent with the WWE since 2004.

guyver2077

03-17-2006, 01:12 PM

As I said before, a quick Google Image Search (with the SafeSearch filter turned off) will yield immediate results.

nice i didnt know there was a filter on google..

i did a search and found only a few nice topless pics..

Genocidal

03-17-2006, 01:34 PM

There's an interview up on wwe.com with Shannon Moore here (http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/moorereturns). Not surprisingly, when asked what he has been doing for the past 9 months, no mention of TNA was made by name.

mykevermin

03-17-2006, 02:53 PM

SIGNUPS ARE OPEN AT PWTORRENTS.NET!!!

I know many of you wanted to sign up for this, and they opened yesterday and will end open registration *tonight*!

www.pwtorrents.net

Zenithian Legend

03-17-2006, 02:57 PM

Is it worth it now that Youtube has taken off?

mykevermin

03-17-2006, 03:53 PM

Dunno. I pretty much get all the puro and comp dvd images.

2Fast

03-17-2006, 04:31 PM

SIGNUPS ARE OPEN AT PWTORRENTS.NET!!!

I know many of you wanted to sign up for this, and they opened yesterday and will end open registration *tonight*!

www.pwtorrents.net (http://www.pwtorrents.net)

Thanks Myke! Finally signed up.

Genocidal

03-17-2006, 05:07 PM

Is it worth it now that Youtube has taken off?
Yes, because there's a lot more shit here, Youtube's cracking down on copyrighted material, and it's of higher quality and easier to download.

Edit: Oh, and you get the occasional upload from me, which should be reason enough to join alone ;)

guyver2077

03-17-2006, 05:10 PM

mykevermin

03-17-2006, 05:44 PM

yea no tna mention... sux

The hell did you expect? He did say "I did some work down south," which I can *guarantee* you was the WWE.com edit for "I did some work for TNA."

AdamInPlaidum

03-17-2006, 06:22 PM

nice i didnt know there was a filter on google..

i did a search and found only a few nice topless pics..

Those are them. Apparently the nipples were blurred out, but someone photoshopped them back in. Either way, she has a very nice body and just looks like she's having a good time.

Genocidal

03-17-2006, 07:14 PM

The hell did you expect? He did say "I did some work down south," which I can *guarantee* you was the WWE.com edit for "I did some work for TNA."
Yep, either that or the mention of working in the indies... I still think Vince doesn't see TNA as being on the level that ECW was during the monday Night Wars... yet.

mykevermin

03-17-2006, 07:26 PM

Demo man posted a great deal of TNA gossip. Much of it interesting, and the only clearly believable parts involve Bubba Ray being a fucking asshole. I've not heard a single account of him being anything but the biggest shithead.

I find it strange that JJ handles the money. It just seems that TNA has too many built-in conflicts of interest that it could have (and should have) avoided.

But wrestlers bitching about paydays? That's as much news as headlines screaming "SUN COMES UP IN MORNING; GOES DOWN AT NIGHT."

Film at 11.

guyver2077

03-17-2006, 07:56 PM

The hell did you expect? He did say "I did some work down south," which I can *guarantee* you was the WWE.com edit for "I did some work for TNA."

well it just reminds me of the old days when either wcw or wwe would not awknowledge that each other existed... i thought we were pass those times already..i hated that

Zenithian Legend

03-17-2006, 08:22 PM

YAY RETARDS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTL7kK6ZimQ&search=jeff%20hardy)

I'd watch another one of jimmie's videos if he'd go around doing this to kids

guyver2077

03-17-2006, 09:20 PM

wonder why they decided to turn animal heel

guyver2077

03-17-2006, 09:26 PM

are burchills pops legit? i think he is really really over or those pops are edits...

nevertheless love his entrance and song and finisher

TheRock88

03-17-2006, 09:41 PM

Thx a lot Myke, been waiting for them to let signups begin again.

guyver2077

03-17-2006, 10:11 PM

holy crap...

edit- i was about to say that this money in the bank smackdown qualifier has been very unpredictable!!!!!

finlay and animal!!!

noticed that decision was reversed for hardy

AdamInPlaidum

03-17-2006, 11:48 PM

So who does everyone think will win the "Last Chance Battle Royale" for the last spot in the MITB match?

I say Lashley, almost definitely.

2Fast

03-17-2006, 11:58 PM

So who does everyone think will win the "Last Chance Battle Royale" for the last spot in the MITB match?

I say Lashley, almost definitely.

I'd like to see Booker T in it, but I doubt that'll happen.

Lashley will probably win it.

Genocidal

03-18-2006, 12:01 AM

Hopefully someone agile who would actually be good in a ladder match... I can't see Flair or Finlay really doing too much in this MitB and hope they don't throw in a 3rd guy like Lashley who seems too big for this type of match.

AdamInPlaidum

03-18-2006, 12:03 AM

I'd like to see Booker T in it, but I doubt that'll happen.

Lashley will probably win it.
I was thinking all along Booker would be in it, but his feud with Boogeyman could be kept going to Mania, and I don't see them leaving Lashley off the show, especially after devoting time on three weeks of Smackdown to the Finlay/Lashley feud.

Demolition Man

03-18-2006, 01:34 AM

Demolition Man

03-18-2006, 01:35 AM

TNA House Show Results...

TNAwrestling.com will be providing live updates throughout the night on the website from the TNA live event in Detroit, Michigan. TNA’s Cassidy Riley and Matt Conway will be ringside calling into TNAwrestling.com during the event to provide match updates and photos!

- The line for fans to enter the CompuWare Arena is already wrapped around the building as fans are currently being let in. TNA expects over 3,000 fans to be in attendance tonight!

The updated lineup for the event tonight is as follows:

Shark Boy vs. Simon Diamond
Alex Shelley vs. Chris Sabin
An appearance by The Insane Clown Posse
Bobby Roode vs. Jerry Lynn
Abyss vs. Sabu
Rhino vs. Team Canada’s A1
AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe
America’s Most Wanted vs. The Naturals
Christian Cage vs. Jeff Jarrett

- TNA's Jeremy Borash kicked off the event by welcoming the fans to the show! The arena is packed, with a line still wrapped around the arena for fans waiting to get in!

- Shark Boy defeated Simon Diamond in the first bout with the Dead Sea Drop!

- Chris Sabin defeated Alex Shelley with his Cradle Shock finisher....the Insane Clown Posse are about to make a special in-ring appearance

-- The Insane Clown Posse hit the ring to welcome fans to their native Detroit, but were interrupted by Team Canada. As a result, the ICP faced off against Eric Young and Petey Williams! ICP won the bout when Coach D'Amore hit the ring, but had his glasses knocked off. While blind, D'Amore accidentlaly hit the Canadian Destroyer on Petey Williams!!! As a result, ICP got the win over Team Canada!

- "The Canadian Enforcer" Bobby Roode defeated the returning Jerry Lynn after Lynn went for a sunset flip, but Roode grabbed the ring ropes for leverage to score the three count.

- Sabu defeated Abyss in a wild brawl after Sabu hit the Arabian Facebuster through a table to score the pin!

- "The War Machine" Rhino beat Team Canada's A1 - after Rhino hit a spinebuster on A1 and covered him, D'Amore yanked the referee out of the ring during the count. Rhino gave chase to D'Amore on the outside, with the manager ending up inside the ring. Rhino hit a GORE! on D'Amore, then another GORE! on A1 for the pin!

- "The Samoan Submission Machine" Samoa Joe defeated "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles after a long and grueling bout that had fans on their feet throughout. In the end, AJ was forced to tap out to Joe's clutch!

- NWA World Tag Team Champions America's Most Wanted defeated rivals The Naturals after AMW hit Andy Douglas' injured knee with a steel chair and James Storm got the pin. Following the bout, EMTs were sent to ringside to assist Douglas from the ring.

- NWA World Heavyweight Champion "Captain Charisma" Christian Cage, still nursing three cracked ribs, was able to overcome "The King of the Mountain" Jeff Jarrett (and interference by AMW) in the main event, earning the win after hitting his "Unprettier" finishing move! Following the bout Jarrett, Abyss and AMW got into a brawl with Rhino, AJ Styles and Christian Cage!

Graystone

03-18-2006, 02:25 AM

wonder why they decided to turn animal heel

And dress him like a shitty biker. Smackdown sucked IMO.

Genocidal

03-18-2006, 05:52 AM

Scorch

03-18-2006, 12:21 PM

This next week will be very interesting in the WWE. I can't say why just yet, but i'll let you guys know soon enough

mykevermin

03-18-2006, 12:34 PM

This next week will be very interesting in the WWE. I can't say why just yet, but i'll let you guys know soon enough

[First-Grade Style Taunting]SOME-BODY TESTED POS-I-TIVE[/First-Grade Style Taunting]

GuilewasNK

03-18-2006, 12:40 PM

[First-Grade Style Taunting]SOME-BODY TESTED POS-I-TIVE[/First-Grade Style Taunting]

LOL. I'm betting it's Snitsky.

Scorch

03-18-2006, 12:47 PM

Why do you automatically assume it has something to do with drug testing?

thatstoobad

03-18-2006, 12:52 PM

If that's not a typo, I have to see D'Amore give Petey the Canadian Destroyer. Maybe check out Sabu vs Abyss, but honestly, I couldn't really care less about the rest of the show. Are they gonna release this on DVD or air it on TV?
it's not a typo, d'amore definitely hit a canadian destroyer on petey williams. it was pretty cool, but unfortunately it gave ICP the win. d'amore said something like "you guys are second rate rappers who get to keep going by kissing howard stern's ass, and you think you can step into a wrestling ring? you don't see petey putting out a rap album, even though he has mad flow" which was kind of funny.

by the way, according to the insane clown posse, they are coming back to tna this summer, which is too bad for everyone involved.

i don't think any of it is going to be on tv or dvd, save for the samoa joe/aj styles match, which they announced was being taped for an episode of impact. the match was pretty great, by the way.

sabin and shelley was also a pretty great match, and the sabu/abyss match was fun.

also, i learned people who like ICP hate christian.

overall, i was very happy i went, and i think tna can count it as successful, as the compuware sports arena website says that it can hold 4,500 for an event like that, and i would say the building was about 75% filled.

i'd offer up some pictures, but i'm a fool and left the camera in the car, which i didn't realize until after i was in my seat.

Zenithian Legend

03-18-2006, 01:22 PM

Speaking of drug testing:

WWE has offered new deals to Rene Dupree and The Bashams.

Performers like Mark Jindrak, Henry Godwin, Chuck Palumbo, and Andrew "Test" Martin are being offered contracts to come back due to their size. With the WWE Wellness program now in effect, WWE expects the performers to get smaller as they cycle off whatever they are on, so they are trying to bring back some more naturally tall and big talent.

GuilewasNK

03-18-2006, 01:27 PM

That would at least explain these signings as of late.

Zenithian Legend

03-18-2006, 01:34 PM

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/webshows/velocity/200603/2324902/drm-velocity031806seg4_?section=/

When did London and Kendrick start wearing masks down to the ring?

mykevermin

03-18-2006, 02:29 PM

Why do you automatically assume it has something to do with drug testing?

If it's information that you have access to that isn't already available on the internet, my immediate presumption is that it has to do with testing. Am I wrong?

EDIT: About 4 months or more ago, ZL. Not that anybody noticed, seeing as how nobody's ever seen Paul London or Brian Kendrick wrestle. Sometimes the cruiserweights are like "The Great Pumpkin" in that they have legendary status, yet noone's ever seen them. ;)

Zenithian Legend

03-18-2006, 02:51 PM

Did you watch that cruiserweight match though? How'd you like the powerbomb/electric chair/suplex spot?

more WWE.com vidoes:

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/feature/29062/2257862

Wow... it's no wonder Torrie isn't on TV much anymore. Despite how ungodly annoying Torrie is, this is still an interesting view as it highlights some of the more sadistic angles in WWE history. Continues to make me wonder what the hell is wrong with Vince and if he was tortured as a child or something.

guyver2077

03-18-2006, 08:45 PM

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/webshows/velocity/200603/2324902/drm-velocity031806seg4_?section=/

When did London and Kendrick start wearing masks down to the ring?

lol for a very long time now

guyver2077

03-18-2006, 08:47 PM

Video from tna detroit show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkqsx-JouYU

neocisco

03-18-2006, 08:59 PM

My name is NOT Earl!:lol:

guyver2077

03-18-2006, 09:01 PM

awesome.. hope the shows good

neocisco

03-18-2006, 09:01 PM

Boomer Sooner! I'm back on WWE TV!

neocisco

03-18-2006, 09:03 PM

One of POD's lyrics in the opening song is "the boys from the south". My little personal wrestling fantasy would have been for someone in production to insert shots of TNA wrestlers in the opening to coincide w/the lyrics.:lol:

The promos at the top of the show were very reminiscent of the original SNME.

AdamInPlaidum

03-18-2006, 09:12 PM

God, it's so good to hear JR again.

The 3-man booth with JR calling the action and Lawler and Tazz arguing and hyping their respective shows is working out pretty well, IMO.

cdeener

03-18-2006, 10:38 PM

Well, I'm loving what they are doing with Mickie James. She is crazy and brings something interesting to an otherwise boring women's division.

guyver2077

03-18-2006, 10:42 PM

holy shit!

neocisco

03-18-2006, 10:42 PM

Finally, we get to see $hane-o-Mac in action again!

Nice bump! 5 replays after the commercial. Shane always delivers. I hope he takes full control of the company sooner rather than later. He's been in the ring enough to appreciate how much good wrestling (not ass-kissing clubs and live sex celebrations) can draw.

Genocidal

03-18-2006, 11:03 PM

SNME owned me hard. Wonder how the ratings are going to look.

2Fast

03-18-2006, 11:18 PM

It just feels right when J.R. is there.

mykevermin

03-18-2006, 11:18 PM

I just started watching it right now, and I have to say that the opening promos, where the guys more or less introduced themselves and their modus operandi, was just fucking *awesome* and totally nostaligc of the classic SNME setup. Now if only they used The Human League's "Obsession" for the opening theme, the circle would be complete!

GuilewasNK

03-19-2006, 12:05 AM

Good Lord, Scott Steiner is on the mic...

2Fast

03-19-2006, 12:22 AM

Good Lord, Scott Steiner is on the mic...

Scott Steiner's bisceps: :puke:

Brak

03-19-2006, 12:37 AM

Norman Smiley the shit.

VanillaGorilla

03-19-2006, 12:46 AM

Well, SNME was a one spot show. Now do you see why top ropes moves in the WWE are rare, so that when a spot like tonight's comes along, it's all the more impressive. I thought the opening was pretty dumb, and completely out of character for everyone. That kind of schtick works in the late 80's, but not today. Why would HHH and Cena cut a silly co-promo 5 days after almost beating each other with sledgehammers and sharp spinny belts?

neocisco

03-19-2006, 12:47 AM

Brak digs the Big Wiggle.

neocisco

03-19-2006, 12:49 AM

I thought the opening was pretty dumb, and completely out of character for everyone. That kind of schtick works in the late 80's, but not today. Why would HHH and Cena cut a silly co-promo 5 days after almost beating each other with sledgehammers and sharp spinny belts?
Myke and I respectfully disagree w/you. OK, myke might not be respectful.;)

Zenithian Legend

03-19-2006, 12:49 AM

motherfucking, bullfucking, fucking cocksucking fucking piece of fucking shit bobfucking fuckcats - pistons game pre-empts fucking saturday fucking night fucking main e-fucking-vent and not only pre fucking empting it here, but now the motherfucking show isn't even fucking going to be on at all, I'm so glad I'm fucking gonna be out of this backfuckingwoods piece of fucking shit hick town with this re-fucking-tarded fucking charter fucking cable, god that pisses me off

Less than 2 fucking months mt pleasant, and I'm never fucking coming back to this shit-fucking-hole.

I hope one of my friends back home tivo'd the damn show

:bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

VanillaGorilla

03-19-2006, 12:55 AM

Genocidal

03-19-2006, 01:00 AM

Don't let VanillaGorilla throw you, as a lot of us it seems thought the show was fairly solid from top to bottom.

Worst case scenario, you could always PWT it ZL?

GuilewasNK

03-19-2006, 01:11 AM

VanillaGorilla

03-19-2006, 01:14 AM

Don't let VanillaGorilla throw you, as a lot of us it seems thought the show was fairly solid from top to bottom.

Worst case scenario, you could always PWT it ZL?

Well, there was nothing on the show that warrants someone dropping 23 F-Bombs.

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 02:21 AM

Good Lord, Scott Steiner is on the mic...

To be honest I've heard worse promos in my life.... I just can't think of ANY of them right now.

2Fast

03-19-2006, 02:51 AM

To be honest I've heard worse promos in my life.... I just can't think of ANY of them right now.

Here's some food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnI8KTgcJKc&search=lex%20luger

No matter how many times I watch it, it never gets old.

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 03:23 AM

Watching SNME right now (worked 10 AM to 11 PM).... and you know what's scary...

I just marked out for HHH pedigreeing Cena. And you all know how much I can't stand either one of them.

TheRock88

03-19-2006, 03:56 AM

Was it just me or did JR change? No "STONE COLD" when Austin came out and "MY GOD HE's BROKEN IN HALF, etc/" with the Shane/HBK bump.

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 03:58 AM

All I got to say right now is...

STUNNER! STUNNER! BY GHAWD STUNNER!!!!

Now only if JR would of said that.....

OntheDL

03-19-2006, 04:08 AM

Man, I forgot to set the DVR for this. I hope I can find a torrent tomorrow.

Scorch

03-19-2006, 04:23 AM

Man, I forgot to set the DVR for this. I hope I can find a torrent tomorrow.

Tomorrow? Shit, i'm already 50% done with mine. I set my DVR for it but i'm too lazy to go watch it on there.

SevereTireDamage

03-19-2006, 04:43 AM

Personally, I loved the opening short promos... oh the nostalgia!

That ladder spot was pretty nice, and the opening match wasn't bad - if for the sheer star power alone. We all knew it would devolve into everyone doing finishers on each other, but it was still satisfying.

OTOH, the rest of the show was a cancelled Boogeyman match, another boring and pointless Austin segment, a Diva tag team match (well, at least they finally pulled the trigger on Mickie). There was too much to sit through between the good opener and the Shane/HBK match... which had a lousy ending.

Even with that said, it was still better than most RAW/SD episodes. You can see they were trying hard for a PPV-quality thing here. Pyro budget alone must've been nuts!

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 05:05 AM

Okay a few comments about both Impact and SNME... first with SNME... (edit: I'm spoilerizing this)

- Opening match was pretty decent but it seemed like as if everyone was just doing the same ole routine with the same ole spots we've seen week in week out. Would of been nice to see a little risk taking to make the opening match on the first SNME in nearly 15 years feel a little special for even those of us who watch every week. Oh well, it served its purpose on the show which was to hype up both World Title bouts on the card.

- Speaking of the opening match... like I posted earlier... its a sad day when I'm cheering for Triple H.

- Its a bummer that its not JBL vs Austin at Mania. If I hadn't known better I would of sworn that was going to take place instead of JBL vs Benoit for the US Title since until the end of the segment there was hardly any mention of the match, Benoit, or the US Title.

- Anything with Mark Henry pretty much is fast forward material. Sorry, but you would have to be brain dead or retarded to think that WWE would actually have Mark Henry be the one to end The Undertaker's undefeated Mania streak.

- You would think one of these days a wrestler would know when the lights in a room goes red and that tribal music hits they can just turn around and go "Hi Boogeyman." :rofl:

- The Edge/Foley promo worked on all levels to hype up the hardcore match at Mania. Its sad that I still feel that Edge should be champ instead of Chumpena, but then again Vince McMahon must think we all want another lengethy Triple H title run as that will certainly raise PPV buyrates, ticket sales, merchandise sales, and everything else you can imagine. (sarcasm implied heavily on that last sentence)

- I don't know what is worse... the ending to SNME with Shane putting HBK in the Sharpshooter while Vince calling for the bell ala Survivor Series 97.... or Jeff Jarrett's emulation of the NWO.

Speaking of TNA Impact....

- Believe it or not all joking I made about Steiner's promo earlier in this thread it did get the point across that him and Jarrett are "TNA's new face." Rather that is good or bad we'll have to wait and see, but it does work on the level of putting Steiner across as a heel even further than his actions at Destination X did. I don't fee in 2006 however that we the wrestling fans (and even further us TNA fans) need to see another version of the NWO lead by Jeff Jarrett - who out of all people should of realized how much damange this did to WCW.

- So far if anything in this there has been a few positives especially in giving a much better identity to a few talents including Alex Shelly and Eric Young. We can finally see that Alex Shelly can do more than just wrestle (and wrestle great mind you). I really do hope that TNA does find ways to add more character to other talents. If TNA can do this kind of magic to Shelly and Young I can only imagine what kind of character they can add to.. say... Jay Lethal.

- Kinda funny to see Cassidey Riley given the jobber status as of lately.

- I must say that this week's build up alone for Christian Cage vs Abyss is far better than the first week's build up for Cage vs Brown.

- Two nice matches during the show for both the World X Cup tournament qualifying match and the main event. Worth watching the Monday replay for these two alone.

- I'm also glad that TNA did a nice job in hyping up next week's broadcast which looks to be worth watching just for the main event Team 3D vs Team Canada cage match. They also hyped up a Steve Borden/Sting interview that will be on the show. I didn't read the spoilers so I don't know if this was shown to the Impact Zone crowd, but the general comments I read on the cage match is that its pretty good.

There ya go... hope this can get some chatter going on in this thread. Enjoy. :D

guyver2077

03-19-2006, 05:05 AM

Good Lord, Scott Steiner is on the mic...

whens that ever been a problem... hes da big bad booty daddy!!! his promos rock!

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 05:18 AM

Here's some food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnI8KTgcJKc&search=lex%20luger

No matter how many times I watch it, it never gets old.

:rofl:

guyver2077

03-19-2006, 05:29 AM

Here's some food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnI8KTgcJKc&search=lex%20luger

No matter how many times I watch it, it never gets old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-4yK7dr81A&search=lex%20luger

evilmojo12542

03-19-2006, 08:37 AM

I thought this one of the better shows I seen from them on tv. keeping in mind I do not have cable so do not see monday nights. was lots of action and less mic time. If they did this every show there rateings and attendance surely would go up again

ECW_fan

03-19-2006, 09:43 AM

Here's some food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnI8KTgcJKc&search=lex%20luger

No matter how many times I watch it, it never gets old.
That pretty funny. Speaking of that have you guys ever seen the Luger vs Brody match where Brody no sells Luger in a cage and scares him shitless.

GuilewasNK

03-19-2006, 09:43 AM

whens that ever been a problem... hes da big bad booty daddy!!! his promos rock!

Your can literally see his thought process in real time when he tries to think of what he is trying to say next. Plus, he slurs and runs words together a lot. It's minor stuff, but I am surprised he gets as much mic time as he does.

evanft

03-19-2006, 11:12 AM

Is it just me, or is Shane more entertaining than Cena, HHH, and Mark Henry combined?

mykevermin

03-19-2006, 11:32 AM

Your can literally see his thought process in real time when he tries to think of what he is trying to say next. Plus, he slurs and runs words together a lot. It's minor stuff, but I am surprised he gets as much mic time as he does.

There is a car wreck quality to them, certainly. I do think he does effectively convey his superiority complex and disdain for the crowd. Regrettably, he also conveys that he is a complete buffoon that has a penchant for talking like a pirate. I think they're better than most people think they are, however.

SNME was fun. I got to FF through the Mark Henry segment, as well as the HBK/Shane match, so I got to watch what I wanted to see. I still don't care for the women's division, but Mickie James' character turn is awesome. "DO YOU LOVE ME NOW!!!?!?!?!" C'mon, it's the best they could do with it. Now they can do away with that bullshit Tony Basil theme music she has, and give her a devastating finisher. If there's something WWE knows very well, it's that an awesome finisher can erase the memory of the shitty match preceding it.

Impact was fun as well. I thought Simon Diamond showed himself to be a great character on the mic, the segment w/ the White Sox was funny (though I don't believe that AJ wears TNA shirts nor sports the X-title 'round Spring Training). Most importantly, Diamond seems to get the old wrestling adage that in professional wrestling, heels, in order to be heels, need to have an implicit character flaw or weakness. It's also important for them to show us that flaw often. In Diamond's case, it's the willful deception of showing him only hitting batting practice, while the good and truthful TNA knew better, and he felt embarrassed for himself at first (scrambling in a way that, dare I say it, reminded me of Heenan), then just making shit up ("any 10 year old with an iPod can do that on their computer"). Thumbs down of the night to computer nerd Mike Tenay, who shot back "I don't think you mean iPod, YOU MEAN PHOTOSHOP!" NYEH!

The reason that I bring up Diamond is because the two major bad guys in wrestling right now, Doubles and Triples J and H (respectively), have no idea how to convey weakness. The thing about pitting a good guy and a bad guy in a main event match is to convey the idea to the viewer that, in a completely fair match, with no runins or interference, the good guy would win everytime. That's a crucial part of a bad guy being a bad guy - he has to, out of necessity, or else he'd rarely win main event matches. The other half of that is to show the crowd what your weakness is: whether it's dependence on a manager, dependence on opportunities to cheat, playing a tough guy until confronted (the coward approach, most recently abandoned by JBL), and generally being beatable under most circumstances. The top two guys for both companies lack a great deal of that; as a matter of fact, them losing a match (*especially* a title match) is the exception, and no longer the rule. You and I, and many others, would be amazed to see HHH lose at 'Mania, and we'll be surprised to see JJJ lose the title (which recently happened, but that, I'd argue, doesn't invalidate my claim). It's interesting that I feel Triple H and Double J would learn a great deal by watching *Simon Fucking Diamond*, but hey, it's what I feel.

The wrestling was wrestling. TNA can only do so much in an hour, and much of it was good, but at the same time, nothing to talk about. Samoa Joe kicking down the door, and the wall art falling down? +10 points.

At any rate, the night was short on quality wrestling (and shaddup, I don't care about Shane) and long on new storylines and some predictable, but nonetheless fresh twists.

BTW, you can hate the "canned promos" from the beginning of SNME, but it's (1) an homage to old SNME, and (2) a fast way of introducing characters to the audience who may have not watched before. As to why Cena and HHH didn't destroy each other? You can ask that about a lot of circumstances, both on and off camera, so I don't think that's a fair criticism.

guyver2077

03-19-2006, 12:57 PM

That pretty funny. Speaking of that have you guys ever seen the Luger vs Brody match where Brody no sells Luger in a cage and scares him shitless.

yea thats a classic match lol

neocisco

03-19-2006, 05:15 PM

That pretty funny. Speaking of that have you guys ever seen the Luger vs Brody match where Brody no sells Luger in a cage and scares him shitless.

Bruiser Brody was one of the few guys in wrestling who was actually scary. He truly didn't give a damn amd would beat the life out of you just as much as look at you.

Myke, what's your beef w/Shane? Personally, I find him entertaining.

Roufuss

03-19-2006, 07:25 PM

SNME was some of the most quality non PPV work WWE has done in years. I loved all of it except for the Booker T / Boogeyman crap, Booker T is absolutely horrible on the mic and should be banned, and Boogeyman has gotten sale.

JBL / Austin's finish was predictable, but still alot of fun... like Demolition Man said, its really too bad its not JBL vs Austin at Wrestlemania.

I even liked the women's division... Trish flipping both girls was great, and I enjoyed the ending.

I marked out when Mick Foley took the thumbtacks to the head... that was very very cool. Its too bad they put out the burning table, as I REALLY wanted someone to get thrown through it.

The ending of the Shane / HBK was clever... I really didn't see that one coming.

The short promo's at the beginning were very well done. And having JR, King, and Tazz as announcers was great, they all worked well together... its alot better then Raw, where Joey Styles sucks. And who loved the part where "Coach has the interview with Mickie James" and all they showed was Coach's hand? :lol:

If they keep putting out SNME's like that, I will watch every single week. This is going to be a weekly show, right?

Scorch

03-19-2006, 07:27 PM

I wouldn't be suprised if it was just a one-time thing for Wrestlemania.

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 07:29 PM

Myke, what's your beef w/Shane? Personally, I find him entertaining.

My guess is because Shane McMahon is getting a big push just because of him being daddy's son without actually paying his dues. While yes Shane is entertaining and yeah the match between him and HBK for the most part was pretty good (outside of the ending)... I can see if I'm right then why myke doesn't like Shane.

Scorch

03-19-2006, 07:32 PM

Dirtsheet time!! SNME bombs in the ratings,

The Fast National rating for WWE's "Saturday Night's Main Event" came in below a 3.4 last night (specific numbers were not available at press time), indicating that wrestling's presence on a major network did nothing to revitalize interest in the product.

According to Nielsen Media Research, NBC's two hours of wrestling caused the network to place last among the four channels offering national programming Saturday night.

The professional wrestling industry was looking for a significantly higher number, going as far as to suggest that anything below a 5.0 would be a disappointment.

While those within the TV industry had lower expectations, the score is also below those estimates and does not create an optimistic outlook for future WWE programming on NBC (outside of the confirmed summer SNME).

WWE sources will likely attribute the low rating to the NCAA tournament, but even then, the company will not be able to spin this as great news.

A number of WWF talent contracts from WrestleMania 11 are up for auction on Ebay for those interested. On sale are the contracts for Pamela Anderson, Steve McMichael, Reggie White, Chris Spielman, Jenny McCarthy and Joe Walsh, whose appearance was later nixed by Vince McMahon.

During the commercial break last night as the doctors were attending to both Shawn Michaels and Shane McMahon, Michaels leaned on a half fof the broken table with the legs still upright and a table piece flew and smacked McMahon hard under the eye. Vince immediately went out of work mode and got a concerned look on his face. When they came back from the break, you could see the cut under Shane's eye and would assume it was from the bump. (Thanks to Jack Encarnacao)

WWE advertised another Saturday Night's Main Event for 7/15 in Dallas at the American Airlines Arena. (So no, not a weekly thing)

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 07:37 PM

I wouldn't be suprised if it was just a one-time thing for Wrestlemania.

According to what I know SNME will be a twice a year event on NBC.

mykevermin

03-19-2006, 07:43 PM

No, nothing against Shane personally. I'm just bored to tears of the "McMahon versus ______" shit they continue to pull, despite it only having one majorly successful run (vs. Austin).

I enjoy Shane's work, and don't really care if he paid his dues or not (though I understand everyday wrestlers claiming the bumps he take makes their job harder, since he wrestles so infrequently). I just don't care for the feud that it's contextualized in, so I don't feel like paying attention. More apathy than dislike (the latter belonging to any feud involving people like Mark Henry).

My only "smart mark" complaint about the show was that RVD was absent from a big-time Detroit show? That just shows the WWE is intentionally trying to bury him, IMO. Can't say I blame them, since he can't wrestle and the crowds hate him everywhere they go. :roll:

hopesfall

03-19-2006, 07:50 PM

Booker T is absolutely horrible on the mic and should be banned

Wow, is he really that bad to you? I thought Booker T was a highlight of the show, to be honest. I loved the over-the-top acting with Teddy Long and the doctor, and Booker playing up the coward role is great. There are a ton of wrestlers who I think would rank well below Booker's mic skills.

Scorch

03-19-2006, 07:53 PM

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<3 PWT

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 08:00 PM

SNME was some of the most quality non PPV work WWE has done in years. I loved all of it except for the Booker T / Boogeyman crap, Booker T is absolutely horrible on the mic and should be banned, and Boogeyman has gotten stale.

I don't think I even need to make a bet that Boogeyman will be either forgotten about or will be Velocity fodder within a year from now.

JBL / Austin's finish was predictable, but still alot of fun... like Demolition Man said, its really too bad its not JBL vs Austin at Wrestlemania.

Since I don't watch WWE on such a consistant basis like the rest of you I actually thought that the whole beer bash was a build up towards JBL vs Austin as Mania... until suddenly Benoit runs in at the end and someone (forgot who) screamed on about JBL vs Benoit at Mania.

If WWE wants to actually sell me on wanting to order Mania then they didn't do a very good job on building up that match. Yes the segment was entertaining but it didn't exactly sell to me that Benoit is a legitimate US Title champ if you know what I mean.

I even liked the women's division... Trish flipping both girls was great, and I enjoyed the ending.

I'll have to admit..... Alexu.. I mean Micke James really does play the psycho insane part very well.

I marked out when Mick Foley took the thumbtacks to the head... that was very very cool. Its too bad they put out the burning table, as I REALLY wanted someone to get thrown through it.

I didn't care much for watching Foley just jump up after taking that thumbtacks spot. I know the point is that Foley is insane and can take a lot of pain without it bothering him but still....

The ending of the Shane / HBK was clever... I really didn't see that one coming.

I called it out right when I saw Vince coming out to the ring with Shane.

The short promo's at the beginning were very well done. And having JR, King, and Tazz as announcers was great, they all worked well together... its alot better then Raw, where Joey Styles sucks.

Its a bad constast in styles on RAW where you have Joey Styles trying to call whatever is going on meanwhile you have Coach and King off on their own little whatever that they are ranting about. JR does a better job at interjecting his comments within what King/Tazz was ranting about while still commentating on the match - something that Joey as much as I love him as a play by play announcer needs to learn how to do if he wants to be successful at WWE style commentating.

If they keep putting out SNME's like that, I will watch every single week.

Even with SNME's flaws I did enjoy what I saw. I really wish RAW and Smackdown could have this energy level every week. I would watch far more often and maybe even occasionally order a WWE PPV that has a good card on paper if the product on a weekly basis could be at least entertaining.

Its a bummer this tanked in ratings too. However outside of the hype on the internet wrestling world I didn't hear much of ANYTHING about this in the mainstream. Hell I'm hearing far more about Simond Diamond's trip to the White Sox's training camp than SNME (which was damn funny btw). We'll have to wait and see how this will affect the next SNME.

Scorch

03-19-2006, 08:06 PM

Why did you break his post down and give your opinions on his opinions? I'm confused

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 08:10 PM

No, nothing against Shane personally. I'm just bored to tears of the "McMahon versus ______" shit they continue to pull, despite it only having one majorly successful run (vs. Austin).

I enjoy Shane's work, and don't really care if he paid his dues or not (though I understand everyday wrestlers claiming the bumps he take makes their job harder, since he wrestles so infrequently). I just don't care for the feud that it's contextualized in, so I don't feel like paying attention. More apathy than dislike (the latter belonging to any feud involving people like Mark Henry).

Very good point myke.... especially in regards towards dislike at Mark Henry. Any bet's we are going to see a Mark Henry vs Shannon Moore fued very soon on Velocity... with Shannon doing the job every single week?

My only "smart mark" complaint about the show was that RVD was absent from a big-time Detroit show? That just shows the WWE is intentionally trying to bury him, IMO. Can't say I blame them, since he can't wrestle and the crowds hate him everywhere they go. :roll:

RVD has to be wishing he could jump to TNA right about now.

Demolition Man

03-19-2006, 08:12 PM

Why did you break his post down and give your opinions on his opinions? I'm confused

Last time I checked a message forum is to discuss and communicate ideas and opinions. I guess since you are so confused on that idea I thought I would pass that along to you.

Genocidal

03-19-2006, 08:22 PM

<3 PWT
Me too.
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It's disappointing that SNME bombed so bad in the ratings.. I think even if NCAA wasn't on, you can maybe only hope for a 4-4.5, which is definitely not the 5 that they were looking for. If they can deliver a good Raw this week though, maybe they'll capture a few of the fans who got to see SNME that don't normally watch. Here's hoping.

ph33r m3

03-19-2006, 08:29 PM

I haven't watched wrestling in a long time, probably the last time I watched it was when it was WWF and was on USA before it switched to Spike.

I thought SNME was done very well, it sucks to see that it bombed in ratings because I really liked most of the matches they put out. And damn that shit with Michaels vs Shane when they smashed the table on the landing....dayam.

ace25one

03-19-2006, 09:19 PM

I just read this from the march 8 Wrestling Observer newsletter

"It was very clear from those around that Vickie Guerrero should not have been brought to No Way Out. She was very nice to everyone publicly, but appeared uncomfortable, but luckily had Nancy Benoit and Valerie Coleman as friends to hang around with. There were people appalled at the company for flying her in coach, by herself and the idea they gave a confused woman a guilt trip to be there by saying Eddie would want her to do anything to help Rey, which she does believe. At the same time, they recognized she wasn't there to help rey's career, but to be the justification that the angle people were up in arms about was really okay, proof being that she was being part of it. And it did work, as much of the heat subsided with the idea that if she thought it was ok, then it must be. She had a hard time being there by the end of the night. The real tragedy of all this is that she is apparently in the process of losing her home."

Dam, thats just sad if true. Just how reliable is the wrestling observer?

GuilewasNK

03-19-2006, 09:44 PM

I heard some rumors that Eddie had some financial issues he was working through. Most of it was due to his excess before he found his faith. Those are the rumors anyway.

cdeener

03-19-2006, 10:19 PM

Well, if anyone wanted to see what happend to Simon Diamond at White Sox camp here is the clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mj50-Iy2GCk

Zenithian Legend

03-19-2006, 11:20 PM

So, my rant on how backwords this fucking shithole town Mt Pleasant is stands. True, I decided to come here, but where I was and who I was back when I made that decision are just so different that I almost painfully regret not going to Michigan State instead of trying to get further away from home, while staying at a more affordable in-state school like Central Michigan.

Anyway, as I was sitting on the couch with my girlfriend, flipping through channels a little after noon... what do I come across, of course SNME in on.

Now go ahead and ask me what channel it was on...

No, not NBC, that'd make too much fucking sense, I live in Mt. Buttfuck remember? So, the delayed SNME aired (un-listed mind you) on the WB. I have no idea why, Charter makes about as much sense as Vince McMahon.

As for SNME's ratings, this has to be a terrible sign for Wrestlemania. The WWE really pumped SNME on both their shows, so the low rating must be devastating.

Vince should attempt to rethink what little time he has left going into Wrestlemania, although given my knowledge of the company that I've watched for oh so many years, I'm sure he'll just say fuck it and go through with the worst WM ever.

mykevermin

03-20-2006, 02:37 AM

Well, it's a bit late to change WM even if he had the idea to do so.

He ought to hire Austin Aries and perhaps Roderick Strong, since I'm certain that if Shannon Moore wasn't under TNA contract, they aren't either.

I think, at the end of the day, all the smart mark bullshit culminates in this rhetorical question that we all ask ourselves twice weekly: What the fuck has to happen to get Vince McMahon to put wrestling back on his show?

cdeener

03-20-2006, 09:37 AM

Zenithian Legend

03-20-2006, 11:04 AM

The question is... why not just put the Pistons/Bobcats game on the WB? I'm a huge Pistons fan and all, but it was such a minor game, and against the Bobcats no less.

Anyway, seems I've fallen well behind the top spot in our fantasy league, so looks like my picks this week will have to really come through in order to catch up to that damn Captain Charisma. I'd hate for things to be already wrapped up going into Wrestlemania.

Zenithian Legend

03-20-2006, 11:55 AM

An interesting read on 411... http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/37845

While guys like Taker (obviously) and Edge are undefeated, and Hogan has his share of WM wins too, there's guys like Bret Hart, HBK and the winless Big Show that are the biggest "losers" in WM history.

Scorch

03-20-2006, 01:33 PM

-- Apparently Vince has given the order for a series of WWE novels. The first one, scheduled for a summer 2006 release, features Vince himself in a James Bond-like role where he and several wrestlers go undercover to bust a drug operation.

I cannot wait to read that.

Oh, and Tajiri has agreed to be on ECW: One Night Stand this year

2Fast

03-20-2006, 01:38 PM

Demolition Man

03-20-2006, 04:27 PM

I cannot wait to read that.

:rofl:

I'm sure these "novels" will end up on Wrestlecrap soon enough.

GuilewasNK

03-20-2006, 04:39 PM

Oh, and Tajiri has agreed to be on ECW: One Night Stand this year

Awesome.

darkcrawlspace

03-20-2006, 05:26 PM

Do you think some fans might actually boo Joey Styles at ONS stand this year for signing with the WWE?

GuilewasNK

03-20-2006, 06:08 PM

Do you think some fans might actually boo Joey Styles at ONS stand this year for signing with the WWE?

I don't why they should. The man has a right to make money like everyone else.

darkcrawlspace

03-20-2006, 06:19 PM

Yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear some boo's.

IGN's been doing a lot of interviews with WWE wrestler's lately. Here's the most recent one with Randy Orton: http://sports.ign.com/articles/696/696778p1.html

He even mentions TNA:
TNA is up and coming, and that's great, we need competition. I wouldn't consider them competition right now, but besides WWE and TNA, unfortunately, there really isn't another place to make a good living being a professional wrestler.

Scorch

03-20-2006, 08:06 PM

Now that everyone's at the arena, I can let it leak out if it hasn't already.

The reason for the super show this week in Memphis is because they're giving everyone a suprise drug test. I don't know if this information has leaked out or not. The company doing the testing is based in Nashville, so it was a quick 2 hour drive to get down to the arena.

That's why I mentioned this next week will be interesting.

Zenithian Legend

03-20-2006, 08:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorch
Why do you automatically assume it has something to do with drug testing?

If it's information that you have access to that isn't already available on the internet, my immediate presumption is that it has to do with testing. Am I wrong?

And he was right

TheRock88

03-20-2006, 09:17 PM

Anyway, seems I've fallen well behind the top spot in our fantasy league, so looks like my picks this week will have to really come through in order to catch up to that damn Captain Charisma. I'd hate for things to be already wrapped up going into Wrestlemania.

You might be able to catch up. I forgot to do my team this week so there may be a chance no 2 and 3 can catch up.

mykevermin

03-20-2006, 09:31 PM

Do you think some fans might actually boo Joey Styles at ONS stand this year for signing with the WWE?

Nah. ECW fans are fuckin' idiots. Don't waste your breath flaming me.

My evidence is this: Because of ECW, *any* wrestling match at *any* point in time that involves two guys doing any routine that can feasibly be considered "chain wrestling," no matter how good or how bad, that ends with the two guys facing each other in a "pose" (think RVD/Jerry Lynn's early match chain wrestling as the best example of what this looks like when it's *good* wrestling), fuckin' ALWAYS ends with the lumpy ass fat shits in the crowd applauding like they just saw Giant Baba and Jumbo Tsuruta go for an hour and a half. I can't count the number of times fuckin' boring-ass wrestlers did nothing but run the ropes in between hip tosses and shoulder blocks, only to end the moment in a "fight" pose. And the fuckin' sheep always cheer! Goddammit!

Pardon my crabbiness. While I'm upset that Rollergirls was cancelled (evidently it was the two of us and my father in law, alone, who watched the fuckin' thing), my wife attended a meeting tonight for an upstart Roller Derby league in Cincinnati (at the old bar I worked at for four years, appropriately enough).

To satisfy DemoMan's image of me as a lush, yes, I had a glass of Bock and Dortmunder. It's coffee for the moment for me.

hopesfall

03-20-2006, 09:43 PM

Nah. ECW fans are fuckin' idiots. Don't waste your breath flaming me.

My evidence is this: Because of ECW, *any* wrestling match at *any* point in time that involves two guys doing any routine that can feasibly be considered "chain wrestling," no matter how good or how bad, that ends with the two guys facing each other in a "pose" (think RVD/Jerry Lynn's early match chain wrestling as the best example of what this looks like when it's *good* wrestling), fuckin' ALWAYS ends with the lumpy ass fat shits in the crowd applauding like they just saw Giant Baba and Jumbo Tsuruta go for an hour and a half. I can't count the number of times fuckin' boring-ass wrestlers did nothing but run the ropes in between hip tosses and shoulder blocks, only to end the moment in a "fight" pose. And the fuckin' sheep always cheer! Goddammit!

Pardon my crabbiness. While I'm upset that Rollergirls was cancelled (evidently it was the two of us and my father in law, alone, who watched the fuckin' thing), my wife attended a meeting tonight for an upstart Roller Derby league in Cincinnati (at the old bar I worked at for four years, appropriately enough).

To satisfy DemoMan's image of me as a lush, yes, I had a glass of Bock and Dortmunder. It's coffee for the moment for me.

Haha I love Myke...I always picture the "grumpy old man" of the boards when I see Myke's posts...not that they aren't welcome Myke :lol:

mykevermin

03-20-2006, 10:09 PM

Well, thanks. Just as long as you don't think I look like Walter Matthau. ;)

Zenithian Legend

03-20-2006, 10:25 PM

You might be able to catch up. I forgot to do my team this week so there may be a chance no 2 and 3 can catch up.

Let's hope so ;)

Here's the SD results, not many matches, so you can expect a lot of storylines, etc

Dark Match:

Matt Hardy v. Vito. Winner-Hardy. HOT CROWD!

Smackdown:

The show opened with a Randy Orton promo about WrestleMania 22 and Smackdown.

There was a battle royal for the last spot in the Money in the Bank match with: MNM, Lashley, London, Kendrick, Jordan, Funaki, Scotty, Kash, Noble, Sylvan, Nunzio, Dean, Gymini, Mexicools, Tatanka, Burchill, and Road Warrior Buffet. Buffet was out first. Melina is hotter in person. Winner: Lashley

JBL did a promo about SNME, Benoit and other stuff.

The building is 90% full now and the crowd is still hot.

Rey Mysterio vs. Fit Finlay saw Randy Orton run in and RKO Rey while he was making a comeback. Finlay wins.

Next up was a contract signing for WM22: Booker v Boogeyman. Sharmell checks under table before sitting down. Teddy Long then makes it a handicap match, Boogeyman vs. Booker and Sharmell.

Chris Benoit vs. William Regal was next. Benoit won with the Crossface. JBL throws a tantrum.

The main event saw Mark Henry (without Daivari) take on Kurt Angle. Randy Orton runs in during the ankle lock. Rey runs in and accidentally hits Kurt. Henry gets the 3. I guess it wasn't for the title. Post match there was a staredown. Kurt pushes down Rey and yells at Orton. Rey dropkicks Kurt, hits the 619. End of Smackdown.

AdamInPlaidum

03-20-2006, 10:46 PM

I'm still trying to figure out of the bodog.net music is The Bashams theme when they were a part of JBL's cabinet.

And speaking of commercials during WWE programming, I hate Larry the Cable Guy.

mykevermin

03-20-2006, 10:58 PM

And speaking of commercials during WWE programming, I hate Larry the Cable Guy.

Hurr hurr FART! Haw-haw! Multiply that X 2 hours, and I just saved you the $9 cost of a movie ticket to see that uncreative hillbilly fuck.

ZL, there's one match on Smackdown involving Chris Benoit versus an opponent he typically has stellar matches with, given sufficient tv time. I've been lax with watching SD! lately, but I'll certainly watch that match.

GuilewasNK

03-20-2006, 11:01 PM

While I'm upset that Rollergirls was cancelled (evidently it was the two of us and my father in law, alone, who watched the fuckin' thing), my wife attended a meeting tonight for an upstart Roller Derby league in Cincinnati (at the old bar I worked at for four years, appropriately enough).

Man, girls cussin' and knockin' the shit out of each other should have garnered better ratings. :lol: To be honest, it seemed more like it should have been a SpikeTV program and not A&E. I didn't see as much of the show as you did but I enjoyed it.

I'm still trying to figure out of the bodog.net music is The Bashams theme when they were a part of JBL's cabinet.

And speaking of commercials during WWE programming, I hate Larry the Cable Guy.

Dude, you should visit where I live. Git-R-Done grates on my nerves as much as Deez Nuts did as a catchphrase. I went to the bowling alley last year and this jackass kept saying git-r-done to the point where I had to leave.

2Fast

03-20-2006, 11:24 PM

Heh. I have the inglorious honor of living literally 20 minutes East of Larry the Cable Guy's hometown. When I was in high school, Git-R-Done was used in place of hand raising to answer (or ask) a question in class.

neocisco

03-20-2006, 11:26 PM

LTCG's tour bus was at my CC last year. A couple of people were running around the store looking for him but never found him. He probably wasn't even there. I was very grateful. Just sharing some useless info.

neocisco

03-20-2006, 11:28 PM

ZL, there's one match on Smackdown involving Chris Benoit versus an opponent he typically has stellar matches with, given sufficient tv time. I've been lax with watching SD! lately, but I'll certainly watch that match.
Angle, Angle, Angle! Please!:pray:

AdamInPlaidum

03-20-2006, 11:29 PM

CaseyRyback

03-20-2006, 11:36 PM

IMO Mickie James has the best finisher in the WWE. What kind of DDT was that?

mykevermin

03-20-2006, 11:40 PM

Angle, Angle, Angle! Please!:pray:

While I'd love to see that feud rekindled (perhaps even letting Benoit be the heel this time, although since he's kinda the "standard technical wrestling guru," it may be hard to make him a bad guy - then again, they did a great job towards the tail end of Bret Hart's WWF run), it's someone who he never had a long-running feud with, but at the risk of spoiling too much, it's an opponent who basically was hired by the WWF because of a five-star match he had with Benoit years ago, and someone pitted against Benoit once or twice per year (usually on Velocity), and still knows how to go.

It's the guy I'd love to see feud with Finlay. ;)

mykevermin

03-20-2006, 11:42 PM

IMO Mickie James has the best finisher in the WWE. What kind of DDT was that?

It's the "BREAK YOUR GODDAMN NECK!!!!11!" DDT. That was excellent, and I have to admit that I really enjoy Mickie's character. My internal predictions were wrong, as I figured that Trish was under the box as soon as she "didn't" come out at the beginning. As soon as it was revealed to be Ashley, I initially saw her and said "who the hell is that?" :lol:

Genocidal

03-21-2006, 12:21 AM

Good show up until the main event... at which point the crowd DIED, and I don't blame them. I don't really want to see Cena take the place that Austin had 5 or 6 years ago... it was good then with Austin, but Cena? He's too much of a 'good guy' -- evident at SNME when he wouldn't take advantage of the ref having his back turned.

mykevermin

03-21-2006, 12:28 AM

I dunno, the crowd seemed to be hoppin' during the main event. Me? I was resisting the growing temptation to hurl my PSP at the fucking wall in much the same way that Roger Clemens hurls a fastball. I fucking SUCK at Metal Gear Acid.

The crowd, though I was only kinda paying attention, seemed to be hot during the main, although I couldn't very well interpret their reaction to the McMahon/Cena match for next week.

Genocidal

03-21-2006, 12:35 AM

If you taped it or plan on downloading it, listen to the crowd (or lack of it) when Cena is gone and Shane and Trips are just beating the hell out of HBK. King could only describe the people as "stunned" :lol:

2Fast

03-21-2006, 12:37 AM

Also, notice the crowd when Carlito comes out - nothing.

neocisco

03-21-2006, 12:42 AM

While I'd love to see that feud rekindled (perhaps even letting Benoit be the heel this time, although since he's kinda the "standard technical wrestling guru," it may be hard to make him a bad guy - then again, they did a great job towards the tail end of Bret Hart's WWF run), it's someone who he never had a long-running feud with, but at the risk of spoiling too much, it's an opponent who basically was hired by the WWF because of a five-star match he had with Benoit years ago, and someone pitted against Benoit once or twice per year (usually on Velocity), and still knows how to go.

It's the guy I'd love to see feud with Finlay. ;)

OK, that cleared it up. You're right, it should be really good if they're given the time. The mystery man vs. Finlay? Ouch!:boxing:

Demolition Man

03-21-2006, 01:55 AM

I will certainly have to watch Smackdown this week for...

Benoit vs Regal

... as they always deliever. :D

Demolition Man

03-21-2006, 01:56 AM

To satisfy DemoMan's image of me as a lush, yes, I had a glass of Bock and Dortmunder. It's coffee for the moment for me.

:rofl:

How did you know I pictured you as a grumpy old man? ;)

OntheDL

03-21-2006, 03:19 AM

I found a torrent of Wrestling With Shadows, watching it now, I saw it when it first came out and caught parts since then but, man, it's weird, around 7 minutes in and in a span of about 30 seconds they show, Owen, the Bulldog, Brian Pillman and the Road Warriors.

In my head, I'm just going, dead, dead, dead and...dead.

In baseball, you can watch some games from 7 years ago and not see 4 guys that are dead.

Oops, forgot Sunny was right there too, isnt' she dead? Or at least lost her way. That doesn't count as much.

onetrackmind

03-21-2006, 11:10 AM

I was resisting the growing temptation to hurl my PSP at the fucking wall in much the same way that Roger Clemens hurls a fastball. I fucking SUCK at Metal Gear Acid.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Roufuss

03-21-2006, 11:45 AM

Maybe it was just because I enjoyed SNME so much, but this weeks RAW was reeeeeeeeeeally boring.

The whole "lets make yet another main event tag match" was predictable and stale, I called it as soon as Cena ran out.

That match with Torrie / Victoria was pointless, lasted about 5 seconds, and Candice really needs to get over her shitty airbrushed Playboy thing. Its funny, Chris Masters entrance was longer then that whole match.

Speaking of which, is Chris Master's entrance getting longer each week?

I really was bored this entire week... I can't think of any redeeming qualities about the show. Mickie James character has really grown on me, though.

Its sad that Vince vs Cena for next week had me more excited then anything this week.

PS Mick Foley giving Lita the mandable claw was nice, too.

evanft

03-21-2006, 11:50 AM

PS Mick Foley giving Lita the mandable claw was nice, too.

I'd like to shove MY mandable claw in her mouth. :D

thatstoobad

03-21-2006, 12:03 PM

Speaking of which, is Chris Master's entrance getting longer each week?
i'm not sure if his entrance is, but his hair is. it looked like they finally gave him a transplant or something and covered up his massive bald spot that was just getting bigger every week.

mykevermin

03-21-2006, 12:08 PM

Don't anabolic steroids cause severe hair loss (lookit Snitsky!)? If so, there's your answer, perhaps.

GuilewasNK

03-21-2006, 12:42 PM

Don't anabolic steroids cause severe hair loss (lookit Snitsky!)? If so, there's your answer, perhaps.

I've heard it can, but it may just be genetics. I started losing my hair my senior year in high school. Masters should just shave his head. It works for Chapy, it works for Jason Statham, and it works for me. :)

Snitsky can do whatever he wants because he'll still be the ugliest SOB this side of Bastion Booger.

getmeoutofjoliet

03-21-2006, 03:10 PM

Don't worry, the only thing of note you missed was a table spot that I'm sure someone will convert into an animated GIF in the next couple of days. Oh yeah, and you missed Mark Henry.

sorry for not posting it earlier...

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1754/shanehbk0gr8va.gif