All GDC IWATATON speak goes here

[Strell]

Rumors that should be answered tomorrow, but supposedly Iwata (IWATATON????) will give us the final name of the Rev and a release date, which could be pushed as early as June.

From http://www.gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=4063
(via Kotaku)

June? Shit. Now I have to sell organs to fund both my DS and Revolution addictions. :(

THANKFULLY, THERE ARE SEVERAL INCHES TO GO AROUND.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? I THINK YOU DO.

[ryanbph]

june would be nice.

[botticus]

Make that very nice. Though I was counting on the rest of this year to catch up on my GC games. Rev games would make that tougher.

[SpottedNigel]

I'm just gonna go ahead and believe a June release.
One of the main arguments against it is that final Dev kits arnt out yet...and I dont think that matters especially when it comes to Nintendo developed titles. Nintendo 1st party studios probably have a bit more info than anyone else, so why couldnt they get a game cranked out before others?
As for 3rd parties, they've had at least the controllers for a while now, and frankly, THE GRAPHICS DONT MATTER. yep, they could do a Gamecube quality game, with new ideas/features and be ready for an early launch. Sure, there might be some shovel ware, but I can see things flowing pretty smoothly.

[Ecofreak]

No way - Final dev kits won't be released till this summer. Unless, of course, Big N has a huge line up of 1st person titles ready to keep any kind of drought from occurring.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

No way - Final dev kits won't be released till this summer. Unless, of course, Big N has a huge line up of 1st person titles ready to keep any kind of drought from occurring.

I agree. I don't think it sends a good message to 3rd party developers to release the system before they have even had proper time with the final dev kits. I think it is safe to say that 3rd party support for the Rev is going to make or break this system.

Nintendo makes great 1st party games, but they can't withstand long periods of nothing between their releases.

[Tybee]

I'm going to stick with the week before Thanksgiving, but a June release would be a pleasant surprise.

[b3b0p]

I'm curious about the classic games service. WIthout knowing when this goes live, I'm not that pumped about the launch yet.

What games are there for Revolution that have been shown and announced? No Mario at launch would be a real stinker. Sunshine sucked and I need a next generation Mario fix, soon. I've been denied since the 64.

I would be excited about a possible June Blast Corps marathon though.

[Vegan]

If it's called anything other than the Revolution, I'm gonna be sad.

[Reality's Fringe]

I hope they name it the FURIOUS ORGASM. Not only is it sweet, but asking stores about them entails great fun.

[Strell]

I'm still holding out for Power NES, or P-NES for short.

IT IS A JOKE YOU SEE.

PLZ TO BE PLAYING WITH MY P-NES?

[Tybee]

I hope they name it the FURIOUS ORGASM. Not only is it sweet, but asking stores about them entails great fun.

Nintend-OH---OH---OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

[Reality's Fringe]

I'm still holding out for Power NES, or P-NES for short.

IT IS A JOKE YOU SEE.

PLZ TO BE PLAYING WITH MY P-NES?

GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY P-NES, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED!

Nintend-OH---OH---OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

You see, the jokes write themselves. Nice Avatar, by the way.



The thing about the FURIOUS ORGASM is that it also sounds like a racecar or a spaceship or something. Therefore, when people think of Nintendo, they'll think of going to Mars and boobies and shit.

[undyingforce5]

final development kits dont go out till june...so the june release is pretty much dubunked on this fact alone.

[SpottedNigel]

final development kits dont go out till june...so the june release is pretty much dubunked on this fact alone.

"One of the main arguments against it is that final Dev kits arnt out yet...and I dont think that matters especially when it comes to Nintendo developed titles. Nintendo 1st party studios probably have a bit more info than anyone else, so why couldnt they get a game cranked out before others?"

To elaborate: We are getting a suped up Gamecube. Groups have been developing on that idea alone. The controller support is whats important, not the graphical aspect.

[Tybee]

GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY P-NES, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED!

You see, the jokes write themselves.

Sometimes when my P-NES doesn't work, it helps to blow on it.

Why, you're right!

Nice Avatar, by the way.

Thank you. I like it very much.

Oh! Prince of Space!

The thing about the FURIOUS ORGASM is that it also sounds like a racecar or a spaceship or something. Therefore, when people think of Nintendo, they'll think of going to Mars and boobies and shit.

It makes me think of "A History of Violence."

[javeryh]

June or November doesn't matter to me. I probably won't be buying it until around Christmas anyway. I have so much catching up to do and with games like Burnout Revenge for the 360 that you could play FOREVER because of Live multiplayer I know I never will.

[trq]

Therefore, when people think of Nintendo, they'll think of going to Mars and boobies and shit.

I already do, man. What that says about me, I don't dare consider.

Buuuuuut ... yeah, it can't be June. Between this and the PS3 worldwide "launch" in November, I think everybody is just pulling dates out of the air.

Kutargi: "We will have one million units ready for US, Europe, and Japan in November! Demand FAR outstrip supply! People will kill each other in streets for Sony product! We win again!"

Iwata: "Sure, we'll launch in June. Hope you dumb muthafuckers like playing some Kid Icarus, bacause that's all you're getting for six months anyway."

Moore: "Oh yeah? Well, we ALREADY launched the Xboy! Two months ago! It was crazy! You should have seen it, mate!"

[psiufoxx2]

I love the company to death, but Nintendo hasn't exactly been the leader in the cool system name department.

Famicom = Nintendo Entertainment System (yawn)
Super Famicom = Super Nintendo Entertainment System (super yawn)
Project Reality = Nintendo 64 (64 yawns)
Dolphin = Nintendo Gamecube (how in the.. dolphin to gamecube?)
Nintendo DS = Nintendo DS (millions wasted on market research)

Nintendo Revolution = Nintendo RS (speculation)

Let's hope they do better than that :P

[Strell]

I don't think any system names are cool.

[javeryh]

I don't think any system names are cool.

I agree. They should stop treating them like cars and start treating them like people - like the Nintendo Nancy, the Microsoft Harry and the Sony Dick.

[neocisco]

June (http://June)? Shit. Now I have to sell organs to fund both my DS and Revolution addictions. :(

THANKFULLY, THERE ARE SEVERAL INCHES TO GO AROUND.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? I THINK YOU DO.

You have an overgrown kidney, right? Right?

[daroga]

Wow, I think we can offically say that the people who frequest the Nintendo boards are candidates to be locked up for a while in a padded room. Not even just fanboys, but people are friggin insane.

I wish I could divorce myself from that stereotype but I just can't... I l ove you all too much ;)

[1SwtDeception]

I agree. They should stop treating them like cars and start treating them like people - like the Nintendo Nancy, the Microsoft Harry and the Sony Dick.

I'd like that Nintendo name =[ (no matter the sarcastic comment =P)

[botticus]

Wow, I think we can offically say that the people who frequest the Nintendo boards are candidates to be locked up for a while in a padded room. Not even just fanboys, but people are friggin insane.

I wish I could divorce myself from that stereotype but I just can't... I l ove you all too much ;)
So true.

[Tybee]

Wow, I think we can offically say that the people who frequest the Nintendo boards are candidates to be locked up for a while in a padded room. Not even just fanboys, but people are friggin insane.

I wish I could divorce myself from that stereotype but I just can't... I l ove you all too much ;)

And yet we have no DOA Volleyball. Go figure.

On the subject of system names, the first time I heard the term "Play Station," I pictured a nerd saying, "And this is where I go to masturbate."

Which probably wasn't that far from the truth, now that I think about it. :roll:

[Strell]

Wow, I think we can offically say that the people who frequest the Nintendo boards are candidates to be locked up for a while in a padded room. Not even just fanboys, but people are friggin insane.

I WEAR THE HUMAN PANTS!

[jkam]

I kind of liked the Gamecube as a name. It's a cube and it plays games. Pretty ingenious. Revolution would work as a name...I hope they keep it. The first commercial should have someone playing the system with The Beatles "Revolution" playing in the background. Throw in someone playing super mario bros. 1 at some point and it will sell bagillons.

[Tybee]

I kind of liked the Gamecube as a name. It's a cube and it plays games. Pretty ingenious. Revolution would work as a name...I hope they keep it. The first commercial should have someone playing the system with The Beatles "Revolution" playing in the background. Throw in someone playing super mario bros. 1 at some point and it will sell bagillons.

Yeah. And then we can all piss on the graves of John Lennon and George Harrison together.

[Kendal]

Over in the US of A (we hesitate to use 'good' or 'old')

WTF is that supposed to mean?

I hope it just gets released here and Japan near the same time, whenever is launches.

[b3b0p]

Wow, I think we can offically say that the people who frequest the Nintendo boards are candidates to be locked up for a while in a padded room. Not even just fanboys, but people are friggin insane.

I wish I could divorce myself from that stereotype but I just can't... I l ove you all too much ;)
You are talking about he CAG Nintendo boards, right? Because those Nintendo.com boards are full of nut cases!!!

[evilmax17]

I'm predicting:
-Will NOT release in June
-New name (if any) will NOT be revealed
-Controller shell WILL be revealed

The first two things seem more E3 than GDC, but it would make sense to let developers see the shell now.

[KaneRobot]

Doubt it'll be out in June, although that would be pretty cool. I'll certainly be out before the PS3 though. Guffaw.

I don't think any system names are cool.

Cool console/handheld names (regardless of success):

Sega Genesis
Sega Dreamcast
Atari Jaguar
Atari Lynx
Wonderswan
TurboDuo
Vectrex

[Survivor Charlie]

Wonderswan is a cool name? For a swan from the planet Krypton, maybe, but for a game system? You must be a Clockwork Orange fan.

[Friend of Sonic]

I hope it launches at around Thanksgiving. I'd like a great launch for the Revolution, something better than the GC one (wasn't horrible, but wasn't incredible either)

[Reality's Fringe]

Wow, I think we can offically say that the people who frequest the Nintendo boards are candidates to be locked up for a while in a padded room. Not even just fanboys, but people are friggin insane.

I wish I could divorce myself from that stereotype but I just can't... I l ove you all too much ;)

You can't goes anywheres. You're hooked now boy, hooked on the HOT MARIOS. Once master WIFI IWATA REGGIE POWERNATION hits we'll all play with our P-NESes together. As it should be. I'LL WEAR THE PAINT DOWN ON IT, I SWEAR.

[undyingforce5]

"One of the main arguments against it is that final Dev kits arnt out yet...and I dont think that matters especially when it comes to Nintendo developed titles. Nintendo 1st party studios probably have a bit more info than anyone else, so why couldnt they get a game cranked out before others?"

To elaborate: We are getting a suped up Gamecube. Groups have been developing on that idea alone. The controller support is whats important, not the graphical aspect.

so you actually think the rev will launch in june???

care to make it interesting???

$$$$$$$$$$$$

[SpottedNigel]

so you actually think the rev will launch in june???

care to make it interesting???

$$$$$$$$$$$$

:)

I have no clue when its coming out... I just think its feasible that it could come out within weeks of E3

[psiufoxx2]

The best part about the Revolution is how it will have sex with you on command.

[Strell]

The best part about the Revolution is how it will have sex with you on command.

Must....resist....mom joke......

[SMMM]

The best part about the Revolution is how it will have sex with you on command.

like ur mom, M I RITE?!?

[David85]

Like many others say never will happen.

[Ikohn4ever]

all I know is 1030-1130 will be very interesting

[cochesecochese]

I'm thinking we'll see some more info about the download service, pricing of games, etc. All the big guns are being saved for E3.

[psiufoxx2]

like ur mom, M I RITE?!?You guys picked right up on that setup :)

[Gameboy415]

Hell if it came out tomorrow I'd ditch work to buy it.

And honestly, they should just call the damned thing

"NINTENDO"

To rekindle those days of our (well, MY) youth when people would say "wanna come over and play Nintendo?" and when the word "NINTENDO" was synonymous with ALL things video game-related.

Remember? (fuck I'm only 22 and I feel like an old man....)

[Strell]

Hell if it came out tomorrow I'd ditch work to buy it.

And honestly, they should just call the damned thing

"NINTENDO"

To rekindle those days of our (well, MY) youth when people would say "wanna come over and play Nintendo?" and when the word "NINTENDO" was synonymous with ALL things video game-related.

Remember? (fuck I'm only 22 and I feel like an old man....)

Heh, I was thinking the same thing, kind of as a joke. The Nintendo Nintendo.

And I'm 23 so don't feel too bad. :)

[Wet Ninja]

I don't think any system names are cool.

I always thought Dreamcast was a good name for a system. Other than that, though, you're right.

[SpottedNigel]

I'm thinking we'll see some more info about the download service, pricing of games, etc. All the big guns are being saved for E3.

Like showing the controller? Major things can (and will) happen outside of E3

[evilmax17]

Gonna be a long 5 hours. I'm really excited, but I'm probably setting myself up for a letdown. It'll probably be more DS Lite info and less Rev info.

[botticus]

What time is the address supposed to be?

[evilmax17]

10:30AM San Jose time

[psiufoxx2]

Weren't they going to call this the N5? I hope that doesn't happen. I totally agree with you all, just call the damn thing the Nintendo.

Let's come up with some more interesting names, shall we?

Nintendo Generation
Nintendo Advance
Nintendo Big N
Nintendo N-hance
Nintendo Motion
Nintendo Intuition

and my personal favorite...

Nintendo SonyKiller

[Snake2715]

Weren't they going to call this the N5? I hope that doesn't happen. I totally agree with you all, just call the damn thing the Nintendo.

Let's come up with some more interesting names, shall we?

Nintendo Generation
Nintendo Advance
Nintendo Big N
Nintendo N-hance
Nintendo Motion
Nintendo Intuition

and my personal favorite...

Nintendo SonyKiller

NES?
Nintendo Experimental System?

[Msia]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/23/nintendo-revolution-nintendo-go/

[Strell]

It's just a rumor, but I will say this with definite volition:

Omfg, go <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< rev, gg Nintendo wtf u n00b

[evilmax17]

Yeah, I'd be pretty disappointed with "Go".

But slightly less disappointed if they pronounced it "Gee-Oh", like Neo Geo.

It would be like a Neo Neo Geo.

[Strell]

But what would G.O. stand for?

GREAT ORIFICES, OF COURSE!

Edit: 3 hours to go.....

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Yeah. And then we can all piss on the graves of John Lennon and George Harrison together.

Um, Nike beat Nintendo to it by around 15 years.

[SpottedNigel]

I REALLY want it to be called the NES for Nintendo Entertainment System.

I do.

[botticus]

I wouldn't object. The only problem is the confusion when discussing which system I was going to play. Now I would have two NES/Nintendos. Maybe Uber NES? So I can play my Nintendo, Super Nintendo, or Uber Nintendo?

[SpottedNigel]

Your gonna go home and play Nintendo. Your going to go and play Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario World, Super Mario 64 and the New Mario on a Nintendo. They dont need any other words or numbers.

Also, I think by having Nintendo DS be so popular, it makes a case for the main part of the name to be Nintendo, not Gamecube or Revolution.

[Reality's Fringe]

Go" could be the term they're going to use for their WIFI service?

[neocisco]

Revolution works for me. Considering how different it seems they're trying to make the system it would be appropriate. Why do code names have to be better than the final name? Dreamcast was code-named Katana. That's a great name for a system! Dreamcast made me think of fluffy clouds and other crap like that.

[Strell]

OH FUCKS, BITCHES! 20 min away!

Is it bad to have a hardon for this long? Cuz I know Viagra has that 4 hour limit, and I've been going on...1...2....76 hours now, should I be worried?

CUZ YUR MOM SURE WASN'T BAWUAWAHWHAWHW

:(

[botticus]

This isn't gonna be webcast anywhere, is it?

And Strell, only Levitra warns you about 4 hours. I think naturally or with Viagra, it's acceptable, and even expected.

[whoknows]

It doesnt matter for me if Revolution comes out in June or not...For me it will be PS3 first, then maybe Revolution depending on how this how "special controller" thing works out. I have no plans for the 360 because 95% of the good games on it will probably also be on the PS3.

[botticus]

It doesnt matter for me if Revolution comes out in June or not...For me it will be PS3 first, then maybe Revolution depending on how this how "special controller" thing works out. I have no plans for the 360 because 95% of the good games on it will probably also be on the PS3.
Hopefully you're a patient man, since I don't see the PS3 launch going much better than 360 if they go the simultaneous worldwide thing - you might not be able to get your hands on one till February 07... I'm all about jumping on the cheap (sub-$200) console first, then getting one of the others in a couple years when its cheap as well.

[Ikohn4ever]

This isn't gonna be webcast anywhere, is it?

And Strell, only Levitra warns you about 4 hours. I think naturally or with Viagra, it's acceptable, and even expected.


and couple places are doing transcripts live, ign and maybe gcadvanced

[Strell]

OH GOD I JUST SPLIT MY DESK IN HALF

OW

:(

Fucking desk. It had it coming. (kekekeke)

[SpottedNigel]

The is nothing on the PS3 that I "Must" have yet when I consider what came out for PS2 as far as big name games go.
I want the 360 for Project Gotham (Drool...) and sadly, Viva Pinita.
Revo I want for everything Nintendo does, and weird ass games that the controller just begs for.

For me, I will buy a Revolution on launch day (or pre-order) and until the 360 drops in price or I find one for free It will not be mine. PS3...when there's something that interests me, then I'll take notice (Guitar Hero 3? God of War 3? Maybe that Ratchet game they had a demo for?).

I just want the Revo NOW.

[evilmax17]

Isn't it supposed to start pretty much now? I'm not seeing anywhere covering it yet.

[Ikohn4ever]

i was foolish and thought eastern time, now I have to go back to work and just wait till 5 to glimpse the revo goodness

[Midnite]

No matter what Nintendo changes the name to it will always be knkow as the "Revolution" to me.

As for me if it's Revo first then 360 and maybe PS3 if the backwards compatibility is for all Playstation games and not just the PS3.

[botticus]

i was foolish and thought eastern time, now I have to go back to work and just wait till 5 to glimpse the revo goodness
It should be on now... it was 10:30 PST, so 1:30 EST. I see nothing IGN, but maybe soon. All I know is Iwata is getting introduced somewhere in San Jose at this very moment...

[Strell]

anyone see anything anywhere?

[encendido5]

Come on news.... I am bored at work and have been refreshing this page every 5 seconds to see if anybody found out anything.

Ok, maybe not, but I'm still bored and anxiously waiting.

[SpottedNigel]

http://www.kotaku.com/

[botticus]

Running log at IGN: http://revolution.ign.com/articles/697/697882p1.html

Was delayed till just now, that's why.

[Strell]

OMFG, IWATA JUST SAID HE WAS COMING TO MY HOUSE!

Huzzah!

[encendido5]

Woohoo!! What an update!

10:50: The game industry is ready for disruption.

[evilmax17]

"10:50: The game industry is ready for disruption."

Powerful.

[Strell]

Man, Nintendo is ALWAYS delaying things. :)

[Tybee]

"10:50: The game industry is ready for disruption."

Powerful.

So they're renaming the Revolution the Nintendo EMP?

I'm getting the video game journalism equivalent of blue balls here....

[Tybee]

10:58: Tells story about how the prototype was demoed, they were measure the impact with a brain scanning device.

Ah, that's right. Win over your audience with an amusing anecdote about how you cracked open the skulls of monkeys and implanted electrodes deep in their brains. They'll love it!

10:59: Retailers and sales people questioned title -- "it's not even a game."

"And for that we incite you to bomb their homes and businesses! JIHAD!!!!"

[encendido5]

So a half hour has passed by and all we know is that the DS has disrupted the market and that Brain Training is the essence of the disruption.

[Tybee]

So a half hour has passed by and all we know is that the DS has disrupted the market and that Brain Training is the essence of the disruption.

They call it "brain training," but they don't specify what you're training it to do. Maybe people will start smashing PS3s and 360s in their sleep.

[Strell]

Yay for pepsi.

GET TO THE REVOLUTIOn, IWATA

[evanft]

OMG GEOF KEIGHLY!!!

11:06: Bill invites people up on stage: the director of the GDC, Geoff Keighley (G4's Attack of the Show host), and developer Will Wright. The three try out Brain Age and compete in an arithmetic challenge.

Even though he's not on g4 anymore.

11:12: Iwata takes back the mind.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/lhewitt/Images/mentok.gif

[Tybee]

11:06: Bill invites people up on stage: the director of the GDC, Geoff Keighley (G4's Attack of the Show host), and developer Will Wright. The three try out Brain Age and compete in an arithmetic challenge.

"You sank my proof!"

Is there any doubt that these men will never get laid again?

[encendido5]

Whoa, now what do you think this means?

11:12: Iwata takes back the mind.

edit: nevermind, it was corrected, but funny nonetheless

[Sleepkyng]

shit, strell, you're 23?

you can't be serious... ;)

come on, ge$$$$$ters, gimme some more news.

[Strell]

:( Am I too young, old, OR SEXY?

There is only one right answer.

[encendido5]

"Soon we'll have the whole world playing Nintendo, MWAAHHAHAHAHAHAH"

The development came from the idea that people wanted something new. The only real way to demonstrate the appeal of these games is to let people try them -- found that consumers without interest in games were soon hooked. Encourages gamers to share the title with their non-gamer friends and even parents.

[Tybee]

I know I'm too old to be hanging around here, and yet I do... :roll:

11:16: Nintendo is taking a different approach to technology, but also find a way to make it attractive to everyone. Says network gaming has been around since 1998, but Nintendo Wi-Fi evolves it in a unique way that opens it up to a new audience.

"For instance, our GameCube wifi network was powered by hamsters. We learned from that, built upon it, and moved on."

[evanft]

11:16: Nintendo is taking a different approach to technology, but also find a way to make it attractive to everyone. Says network gaming has been around since 1998, but Nintendo Wi-Fi evolves it in a unique way that opens it up to a new audience.

Yeah, sure it is. And Xbox Live is crap.

[Tybee]

11:22: We've added a new title to use the service: Metroid Prime Hunters. Invites Bill back on stage to demo the game. Another competition: Bill against the creators of the game.

Actually, I'll bet that's a pretty good matchup. I'd like to see that.

[evilmax17]

C'mon Iwata. Give us something new. Anything! C'mon!

[evanft]

You know what I'd like to see? Mario 128.

[Sleepkyng]

:( Am I too young, old, OR SEXY?

There is only one right answer.

you may live inside a 23 year old body...

i think this best sums it up:
http://70.86.201.113/imageserv2/temporary/PBF049BCLeftBrainRightBrain.jpg

just playin'...

the answer is SEXY!

[Tybee]

11:29: Iwata takes the stage.

A pole is lowered. The music from "Flashdance" is cued.

[botticus]

Zelda!

[SpottedNigel]

Drool....

[Tybee]

11:29: Iwata takes the stage. There's one more new adventure for you today: Zelda DS. Cel-shaded-style graphics. Top screen: mostly maps. Action is on the lower screen. Use touch screen to draw things -- transitioning the bottom screen input to the top. Launches later this year -- from Aonuma and team (makers of Wind Waker).

*craps pants*

*dies*

[evanft]

Dammit tybee! Beat me to it.

[DomLando]

Zelda!!! nice

[Sleepkyng]

zomg

[Tybee]

That ain't all:

This release just hit the wire:



SAN JOSE, Calif., March 23 /PRNewswire/ -- Nintendo President Satoru Iwata
today challenged a crowd of game developers to think differently and take a
fresh approach to the creation of video games. During his keynote address at
the Game Developers Conference in San Jose, Calif., Iwata said Nintendo will
provide developers with the tools they need to disrupt the traditional methods
of game creation, much as the company already has.
(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20050915/LATH122-b)
(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20050516/NINTENDOLOGO)
These tools include the controller for Nintendo's next home console
(code-named Revolution), which lets users control the action on their
television screens through the motion of the controller itself. The
controller lets game developers create new kinds of gaming experiences, ones
that enhance the experience for hard-core gamers while making video games more
accessible and less intimidating to novices. The new forms of innovative
software that can be created by any size developer will be made available for
download via Revolution's Virtual Console service.
"This new approach is like stepping onto an unexplored continent for the
first time, with all the potential for discovery that suggests," Iwata said.
"No one else can match the environment we're creating for expanding the game
experience to everyone. Our path is not linear, but dynamic."
Iwata also announced partnerships with Sega and Hudson to offer
downloadable access to their classic games via Revolution's Virtual Console.
Revolution owners will be able to relive their past gaming glories from the
Sega Genesis console by playing a "best of" selection from more than 1,000
Genesis titles, as well as games sold for the TurboGrafx console (a system
jointly developed by NEC and Hudson). These games join Revolution's access to
20 years of fan-favorite Nintendo games from the NES(R), Super NES(R) and
Nintendo(R) 64 eras.
Iwata also revealed for the first time that a new game called The Legend
of Zelda(R): Phantom Hourglass would be released for Nintendo DS later this
year.
Iwata, a game developer himself, revealed behind-the-scenes stories about
the development of three key initiatives.
For the industry leading Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection, internal engineers and
developers overcame a series of hurdles to make the system seamless and
flexible enough to allow players to choose to play wirelessly either with
friends or against unknown opponents. The Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection reached
1 million unique users in just 18 weeks -- nearly five times the adoption rate
of the leading online game console network.
He described a pivotal meeting in coming to agreement on development of
the incredibly popular "brain games" in Japan. A leading Japanese scientist
attached a sci-fi-looking wired helmet to a Nintendo staffer and then visually
demonstrated stimulation of brain activity as the staffer played prototype
software.
Finally, he described the hundreds of sketches, dozens of prototypes and
company-wide collaboration that led to the final form of the unique Revolution
controller system, which resembles a traditional TV remote control. He called
the related research and manufacturing costs of the new control system,
"...our method to disrupt the market...realizing a new way to connect a player
to his game."

Sega Genesis too?! DAMN!

[psiufoxx2]

This is probably old news.. but SEGA GENESIS?

"Iwata also announced partnerships with Sega and Hudson to offer
downloadable access to their classic games via Revolution's Virtual Console. Revolution owners will be able to relive their past gaming glories from the
Sega Genesis console by playing a "best of" selection from more than 1,000
Genesis titles, as well as games sold for the TurboGrafx console (a system
jointly developed by NEC and Hudson). These games join Revolution's access to 20 years of fan-favorite Nintendo games from the NES(R), Super NES(R) and
Nintendo(R) 64 eras."

I did not know that. That is insane. I love Nintendo. Deal is sealed, buyong one at launch. Reserving it as soon as I can.

[encendido5]

:drool:

TG-16 AND Genesis?!?

I will finally be able to play all the bonk games!

Nintendo Disruption anybody?

[evilmax17]

Did you read the news release at the bottom of IGN? Rev development tools available to ANYONE over NWFC!

[Strell]

SEGA DOWNLOADS

I HAVE LITERALLY CUMMED IN MY PAQTNS, PEOPLE

I KNOW YOU ALL WANTED TO HEAR THAT

Wangy wang wang!

[Tybee]

Forget the Revolution...They should call it the Nintendo Retro.

And I mean that in a good way.

[psiufoxx2]

That ain't all:
Sega Genesis too?! DAMN!

You beat me, you bastard.

[evanft]

*masturbates*

[Tybee]

11:38: Most important thing is still to be told.

That's it. Always leave 'em wanting more.

What's better than a megaton? A megaton that prefaces an even BIGGER megaton...

EDIT: Oh wait, he's talking about the downloadable development kit.

You know, I think this system is shaping up more and more as a total love letter to gamers. It honors the past while making freely available the tools to determine the future of gaming....Damn, I'm starting to sound like Iwata.

[Sleepkyng]

wait, does this mean i can play stryder, and gunstar heroes again without having to motherfuckin track them down and a sega?

[Scorch]

I'm so sold that I think i'll buy two.

[Apossum]

and TurbografX? not that any TG-16 game has aged all that well, but still...daz funnay.

edit: this thing will conquer

[Reality's Fringe]

I am sorry. I was going to praise Nintendo for allowing us to download dev tools over Wifi, but once I heard that there will be even more old games than I had previously anticipated for download my balls immediately exploded outward onto my monitor. I will wipe up the mess, pleasure myself, and make another comment.

[encendido5]

And you were all wondering how Nintendo was going to get a hold of the hardcore gamers market. I doubt the casual player will want to download the old games, but people that have been playing for the past 20+ years will.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Holy shit, this is awesome! All the classic Genny games. I love it!

[evanft]

wait, does this mean i can play stryder, and gunstar heroes again without having to motherfuckin track them down and a sega?

Imagine playing gunstar heroes with the Revolution controller. :drool:

[botticus]

I am in love. With something. I don't care what. Fuzzy feelings are fun.

[evanft]

God dammit, is that it?

[encendido5]

It's over, we didn't get a name for the new console, but ho-lee shit the Revo is going to rock!

[Sleepkyng]

Imagine playing gunstar heroes with the Revolution controller. :drool:

two thoughts:

say i want to play gunstar heroes and I need a homey to play with - online shared action?

That's like a videogame gangbang, my friend.

also, do you think it'd be possible to setup a situation where you could download old games from the Rev to the DS?

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:: drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[botticus]

Noo... two more months of waiting...

[Scorch]

11:44: Thanks everyone for inviting him.

Conference ends.

..well, that sucks

[psiufoxx2]

Nintendpwned.

[Strell]

Ok, neat new stuff, but still the secrecy? Why?

[daroga]

Was there a DS Lite in the US announcement? I might have missed in the Genesis annoucment and all the flying bodily fluids...

[Tybee]

So let's review the week's announcements.

Sony: "Our system will be delayed until November. Deal."

Nintendo: "BTW, our system will play every game you played and loved growing up, including those that we didn't even make. In addition, it will play new technologically and conceptually ground-breaking titles impossible to replicate elsewhere. Oh, and our development software is open-ended and downloadable for anyone who wants it. Enjoy."

[Reality's Fringe]

Ok, neat new stuff, but still the secrecy? Why?

E3. I'm expecting Iwata to reveal the real secret behind the REV, which is that Reggie ate J Allard's fucking taint all to pieces and stole his dog.

[Reality's Fringe]

So let's review the week's announcements.

Sony: "Our system will be delayed until November. Deal."

Nintendo: "BTW, our system will play every game you played and loved growing up, including those that we didn't even make. In addition, it will play new technologically and conceptually ground-breaking titles impossible to replicate elsewhere. Oh, and our development software is open-ended and downloadable for anyone who wants it. Enjoy."

But dude, sony has BLUE RAY ^_^ OMG!1seven!

[Ecofreak]

I wish I had been in the audience so I could get a free copy of Brain Training. Bah!

Looks like we'll have to get comfy and wait till E3 for more info.

[Tybee]

As one of the people who really liked Wind Waker, I'm glad the game's style has found a home on the DS (they did a good job incorporating it in Minish Cap as well). Cool name too, in case you missed it:

The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

Let's hope Jar Jar Binks isn't in it.

[evilmax17]

I am sorry. I was going to praise Nintendo for allowing us to download dev tools over Wifi
Think I misread that from the news article, sorry about that. He says:

"The new forms of innovative software that can be created by any size developer will be made available for download via Revolution's Virtual Console service."

So are the tools downloadable, or are the games?

[usickenme]

As one of the people who really liked Wind Waker, I'm glad the game's style has found a home on the DS (they did a good job incorporating it in Minish Cap as well). Cool name too, in case you missed it:

The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

.

Here here, In lieu of a ton of Rev news. I will gladly take this.

[BlaqRenaissance]

I did not know that. That is insane. I love Nintendo. Deal is sealed, buyong one at launch. Reserving it as soon as I can.
Its all come full circle. Nothing but Nintendo for me this year. DS Lite in May (hopefully) and Rev at the end of the year. A new Mario game, 2 new Zelda games.

:applause: to the Big N

[Tybee]

Think I misread that from the news article, sorry about that. He says:

"The new forms of innovative software that can be created by any size developer will be made available for download via Revolution's Virtual Console service."

So are the tools downloadable, or are the games?

Wasn't really your fault. It was worded vaguely. On closer inspection, it looks like they're talking about the software that is developed, not the development software itself. Still, they do say "by any size developer," so chances are a development kit will be easier to get than in the past.

I don't know if the console world is ready for manufacturer-endorsed homebrew games. Still, might be cool.

[botticus]

So let's review the week's announcements.

Sony: "Our system will be delayed until November. Deal."

Nintendo: "BTW, our system will play every game you played and loved growing up, including those that we didn't even make. In addition, it will play new technologically and conceptually ground-breaking titles impossible to replicate elsewhere. Oh, and our development software is open-ended and downloadable for anyone who wants it. Enjoy."
Not even "those that we didn't even make", but more along the lines of "the ones we directly competed against" I never had a Genesis (played it at my cousins once in a while) because my parents sure as hell weren't going to buy me two systems.

[jkam]

Wow great news. This system is going to house a whole lot of gaming in a tiny box.

[botticus]

Wow great news. This system is going to house a whole lot of gaming in a tiny box.
And that is why they could, though unlikely, say at E3 that the Rev is out in June with hundreds of 1980s-1990s games available for purchase.

[munch]

This is cool stuff. Anyone have pics of what the Zelda game looks like on the DS?

And what the hell is up with the sexuality of the Nintendo forums? It's like Sex-ed all day, every day in here! I guess Nintendo fans have strong libidos!

[Strell]

I have the biggest libido of them all.

[ryanbph]

very good news from nintendo as far as games being DL and the content they will have. Not sold on the release dates of some of the games, but if they do make it this year, it will be a great year for the rev and for the ds.

[Tybee]

very good news from nintendo as far as games being DL and the content they will have. Not sold on the release dates of some of the games, but if they do make it this year, it will be a great year for the rev and for the ds.

Indeed...Imagine a single year in which we get a new Tetris, a new Metroid, a new Super Mario, AND a new Zelda. Remember back in the first 6 months after the DS was released and people were complaining there was nothing to play on the system? Now I can't keep up.

[Strell]

All Nintendo needs to do now is somehow secure online multiplayer for Goldeneye 64 and Gunstar Heroes. Then add Snatcher and Policenauts to the VC, and Dracula: Rondo of Blood.

I don't think this is all possible right now, but damn, why not, eh?

[SpottedNigel]

Zelda Video:
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=64wsG8LoGw3vuttzAr5zU-s70OLsg6Fm&page=

Holy fuck.

[Sleepkyng]

goddamnit, load motherfucker!

[Strell]

Zelda Video:
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=64wsG8LoGw3vuttzAr5zU-s70OLsg6Fm&page=

Holy fuck.

HOLEE SHIT.

That is about 1000000X better than I was expecting. SHIT.

[Sleepkyng]

sweet mother of christ that looks awesome!

GOOD FUCKING LORD I AM LOSING IT NOW!

[Jaket]

Zelda Video:
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=64wsG8LoGw3vuttzAr5zU-s70OLsg6Fm&page=

Holy fuck.

my god.

i can't wait for that game

[SpottedNigel]

Our first taste of touch control boomerang :)

[Apossum]

The only thing that could make me more excited would be Snakes on a Plane DS.

[RAMSTORIA]

wow... you had to know that the zelda game was coming but, boomshakalaka!! i like nintendos old school and new school approach with some of their classic franchises. 2d mario with 3d models, and it looks to be similar with zelda, classic topdown view with 3d models. woot.

[Strell]

No way. We need Reggie and Snakes on a Plane DS.

[Sleepkyng]

SNAKES ON A FUCKING DS!

but i digress...

[Tybee]

Zelda Video:
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=64wsG8LoGw3vuttzAr5zU-s70OLsg6Fm&page=

Holy fuck.

homina homina *moves game to top of IGN wishlist*

I can't believe how good that looks. This may be blasphemy, but I'm actually more excited for this than Twilight Princess.

[javeryh]

Holy crap. There are so many Nintendo products I need to buy. Not want. Need.

[daroga]

homina homina *moves game to top of IGN wishlist*

I can't believe how good that looks. This may be blasphemy, but I'm actually more excited for this than Twilight Princess.
I just said the same thing to a friend of mine. In. Cred. I. Ble.

[Apossum]

get these motherfuckin snakes off my motherfuckin DS!

[Strell]

Man. It's like Nintendo wants to compete with itself, Rev vs. DS. And I'm weak so I'm getting banged in between them like a technologic meat sandwich.

[Sleepkyng]

ok ok ok, snakes, ds, zelda, gunstar heroes on my rev. at launch, uh, uh, what else, metroid, tetris,

It is honestly like I'm fucking 10 years old again, and I just caught a snake, played some games on my SNES, then went to my friend's house for his birthday party and beat gunstar heroes at 2 am.

[Sleepkyng]

Man. It's like Nintendo wants to compete with itself, Rev vs. DS. And I'm weak so I'm getting banged in between them like a technologic meat sandwich.
did i not say this was a videogame gangbang?

[Tybee]

Man. It's like Nintendo wants to compete with itself, Rev vs. DS. And I'm weak so I'm getting banged in between them like a technologic meat sandwich.

Actually, since both are wifi enabled out of the box, I imagine there will be quite a bit of interplay.

[Strell]

Interplay? Gangbang? Man this is hawt.

Someone take one of the old SNL "Night at the Roxbury" gifs and replace the two guys with the Rev and the DS when they rub up against a chick in a club.

[Tybee]

Interplay? Gangbang? Man this is hawt.

Someone take one of the old SNL "Night at the Roxbury" gifs and replace the two guys with the Rev and the DS when they rub up against a chick in a club.

The Nintendo Swinger: It plays the field

[Reality's Fringe]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/realitysfringe/IwataRevolution.jpg

Recanize! It's my new Sig!

[botticus]

Zelda Video:
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=64wsG8LoGw3vuttzAr5zU-s70OLsg6Fm&page=

Holy fuck.
This link is busted for me...

[Dr Mario Kart]

Higher Resolution Zelda DS video (http://www.g-freaks.de/Downloads/ZELDADS_640.wmv)

[Sleepkyng]

spank you...

[encendido5]

I didn't get to watch the video, but from the pictures on ign it seems like there's going to be more sailing??

[daroga]

Higher Resolution Zelda DS video (http://www.g-freaks.de/Downloads/ZELDADS_640.wmv)

thank you :)

[Ikohn4ever]

I didn't get to watch the video, but from the pictures on ign it seems like there's going to be more sailing??

yes

[SpottedNigel]

I didn't get to watch the video, but from the pictures on ign it seems like there's going to be more sailing??

but it looks like you'll be able to choose how you sail (across the screen with a loop in the middle) to add some strategy to how you get from one place to the other

[botticus]

I think the video showed you can plot your course (both in dungeons and on sea) with the stylus, and then it throws the map back up on the top screen. That seems pretty sweet.

[MadChedar0]

...
I would be excited about a possible June Blast Corps marathon though.
Man Blast Corps was awesome but do you really want to go through the pain of those outer planet missions again? So impossible.

[Rig]

Wow. I've always been a Nintendo fanboy, but this is too much to handle. I cannot fucking wait. It's killing me...

[Strell]

Nintendo, I'll have you know you owe me a new keyboard. Somebody spilled something on this one.

Eight times.

...

[Vegan]

I said this at the PA forum and I'll say this here....

Give me a perks program for the downloadable games. Give me a free Genesis controller shell with the purchase of 20 Genesis games.

[daroga]

I said this at the PA forum and I'll say this here....

Give me a perks program for the downloadable games. Give me a free Genesis controller shell with the purchase of 20 Genesis games.
Oooh, that's not a bad idea. OR vice versa, like 10 free games with the purchase of a shell for a given system. I do hope they make Nintend-quality shells mimmicking the systems' controllers. The Wavebird sort of works, but how cool would it be to just have a little gray rectangle sitting on the coffee table. "Oh that? That's my wireless NES pad for the Revolution. Wanna throw down some Mario 3?"

[shipwreck]

Have they said whether these classic games are actually downloads that you pay for one time or whether this is going to be a subscription service where you just have access to the titles? I'll have to say that the Revo playing all these old games really doesn't seem too appealing to me (simply because I own or have played most of the old stuff already). I can see how it would be great for a lot of people, but I'm just curious in how they are setting up the distribution service.

[SpottedNigel]

TG-16 Fighting Street

Always wanted to play that...

[botticus]

Have they said whether these classic games are actually downloads that you pay for one time or whether this is going to be a subscription service where you just have access to the titles? I'll have to say that the Revo playing all these old games really doesn't seem too appealing to me (simply because I own or have played most of the old stuff already). I can see how it would be great for a lot of people, but I'm just curious in how they are setting up the distribution service.
Nope, they haven't said that yet. Personally I'm hoping for a combination of the two. There are plenty of NES or SNES games I know I would want to buy for the right price, but since I never played Genny or TG-16, it would great to be able to "rent" them somehow, either unlimited access to a set number for a month, or one game for 50 cents a day or something. Or even rent-to-own...

[Ikohn4ever]

i was hoping he was also going to mention the 2D metroid for the DS i have heard rumblings about. I guess I will have to wait for e3 for everything

[SpottedNigel]

I cant believe I didnt notice it before. The little fairy on screen is what you use to control Link. I think the graphics drew too much of my attention away...

[Vegan]

The keynote said that the download service would be like iTunes. Read into that what you will.

[Kendal]

I am going to have sex with my girl while watching the Zelda DS video.

[gigan54]

my girls at work right now so phone sex for me!!

[2poor]

Was the price and date revealed for the ds lite?

[botticus]

Was the price and date revealed for the ds lite?
Sadly no. Just about everything revealed was unexpected; all the stuff everyone was hoping to see will remain hidden for now.

[Dkellar]

Wow, just wow. I am sold. I will have this badass system on launch day! I am just so speechless....this is just amazing... I wonder if we'll be able to download games that were not released in the U.S.(not translated of course)? Nintendo just needs to get a line up of Sega Saturn games for download now!!!

[SpottedNigel]

The keynote said that the download service would be like iTunes. Read into that what you will.

Downloads for your portable device...

[daroga]

Downloads for your portable device...
that would be sweet. I imagine the service will be more of a buy-to-own rather than subscription based

[SpottedNigel]

And hey, they have 30 second clips of everything on iTunes .... maybe everything will have a demo period (5 minutes, 1st level, etc.)

[Tybee]

The keynote said that the download service would be like iTunes. Read into that what you will.

I don't think you can read any more into it than it will be online and it will sell stuff.

That, and Nintendo would love it if just for one second someone confused them with Apple. ;)

[Vegan]

I don't think you can read any more into it than it will be online and it will sell stuff.

That, and Nintendo would love it if just for one second someone confused them with Apple. ;)

Well, I was referring to the question of whether it would be subscriber-based or a buy-it-and-own-it-forever system. iTunes is not subscriber based, unlike other music stores.

[Scobie]

I think we can all rest easy knowing that Nintendo really is on the right path. I wasn't expecting a lot from GDC, but got a couple awesome surprises -- Zelda PH looks so cool, and the access to Genesis and TG-16 games? SWEET!

The only thing that hurts is knowing there is no chance in hell I'll have enough time to play as much as I want to, between the 'Cube backlog I've got, the DS, new Rev titles, downloaded games, and the GBA which still ain't dead yet.

[Kaijufan]

I can't wait for this new Zelda game. :drool:

[FriskyTanuki]

Nothing really good announced to me. The only Genesis games I'd care to get are already released in the Sonic collections and I don't care about TG-16 games. I've already posted about Zelda its thread. I look forward to E3, though.

[RisingZan]

Nothing really good announced to me. The only Genesis games I'd care to get are already released in the Sonic collections and I don't care about TG-16 games. I've already posted about Zelda its thread. I look forward to E3, though.

You don't care about Turbo games? ...I think you just made Bonk cry.

[javeryh]

I am still in a little bit of shock at what Nintendo has come out with. I think they are really going to do well this generation and they probably just solidified their lead in the handheld market for years to come. I can't wait to pick up a DS Lite and about 10 games that I've had my eye on... Metroid, Zelda, Mario Bros., etc.

[psiufoxx2]

The keynote said that the download service would be like iTunes. Read into that what you will.
99 cents per game? I'll need to save up like $250.

[javeryh]

99 cents per game? I'll need to save up like $250.

Probably more like $0.99 per level and $9.99 for the whole game. Plus the biggest games won't be available due to licensing issues. ;)

[psiufoxx2]

Probably more like $0.99 per level and $9.99 for the whole game. Plus the biggest games won't be available due to licensing issues. ;)At $10 I would not buy a single game from them, no matter how much I love it. I know you're just being facetious, but I hope they do come out with a reasonable price ;)

[cochesecochese]

I can't wait for this new Zelda game. :drool:
Neither can I. I thought the WindWaker style was done for but now that I see it's making it to the DS I'm elated. Really wish there had been an announcement about DS Lite availability to go with it but I'm guessing now it'll be announced at E3 and available very shortly after.

[Tybee]

Neither can I. I thought the WindWaker style was done for but now that I see it's making it to the DS I'm elated. Really wish there had been an announcement about DS Lite availability to go with it but I'm guessing now it'll be announced at E3 and available very shortly after.

If we weren't all so painfully aware of Nintendo's trouble keeping up with DS Lite demand in Japan alone, I'd say they might try to pull an Apple: announcing the product and then releasing it for sale the next day. I don't think they could get enough DS Lites manufactured in time to make that work, certainly not without telegraphing what they were up to way in advance.

[Vegan]

I hate that about Apple. It re-enforces the image that their customers have lots of money to burn at any given moment.

[javeryh]

I hate that about Apple. It re-enforces the image that their customers have lots of money to burn at any given moment.
That's because they do. No one needs a new iPod yet they sell like crazy everytime a new one is released. If the rumors about the "true" iPod video are, um... true, then I'll probably be buying one soon after it is released... because I'm a sucker.

[Tybee]

That's because they do. No one needs a new iPod yet they sell like crazy everytime a new one is released. If the rumors about the "true" iPod video are, um... true, then I'll probably be buying one soon after it is released... because I'm a sucker.

Yeah, those of you who complain about Nintendo releasing improved hardware like the GBA SP and the DS Lite every couple years should try walking in an Apple junkie's shoes. Imagine you lay out $400 for a 60 gig video iPod (as I did) and it's pushing obsolescence in less than six months.

Nevertheless, Apple makes a great product and I love my little geek totem. Even if a new iPod is announced next week, it won't undercut the functionality of the one I already have. It might make me envious, but that's my problem, not Apple's.

[FriskyTanuki]

You don't care about Turbo games? ...I think you just made Bonk cry.
It adds nothing of value to me. Nothing in this address made me excited for the Revolution. I hope E3 changes that.

[Sleepkyng]

well someone's a party pooper!

naw, i know what you mean, i feel the same way about the xbox360 and ps3 ;)

[alongx]

Nevertheless, Apple makes a great product and I love my little geek totem. Even if a new iPod is announced next week, it won't undercut the functionality of the one I already have. It might make me envious, but that's my problem, not Apple's.


How about the fact that, before this year, Apple always waited until after the Christmas holiday to release new iPods. So every year anyone who got an iPod has theirs outdated within the month.

[alongx]

You don't care about Turbo games? ...I think you just made Bonk cry.

I have a Turbo and...the games ain't that good. The only games I'd want to buy are the two Turbo CD games that I loved but never could own (didn't have a Turbo CD): Cosmic Fantasy 2 (never gonna happen, especially since Working Designs went under) and Dracula X (I'd give that a high possibility at least).

Here's hoping they announce Sega CD or 32X games next. I'd actually pay for Kolibri, arguably the finest humming-bird based shooter on the 32X, and probably Sonic CD. Maybe Vay, though, again, a WD game.

[RisingZan]

I have a Turbo and...the games ain't that good. The only games I'd want to buy are the two Turbo CD games that I loved but never could own (didn't have a Turbo CD): Cosmic Fantasy 2 (never gonna happen, especially since Working Designs went under) and Dracula X (I'd give that a high possibility at least).

Here's hoping they announce Sega CD or 32X games next. I'd actually pay for Kolibri, arguably the finest humming-bird based shooter on the 32X, and probably Sonic CD. Maybe Vay, though, again, a WD game.

You're right. I own a Turbo as well and the only games I own are the first two Bonk games and Air Zonk. Honestly I just think its exciting that Nintendo is willing to go this far with its "Virtual Console". Sure it wasn't the announcements everyone was hoping for but that is exactly what E3 was originally designed for -selling. Although I do think Iwata could have dropped a US DS Lite release date/price into his keynote...

[Requiem]

Does anyone think Goldeneye 64 has a chance of somehow making it to the Virtual Console?

And I don't think Iwata answered the question whether we can play online multiplayer with the retro games. And will the new Revolution controller work at all with these old school games. I want E3 now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cochesecochese]

If we weren't all so painfully aware of Nintendo's trouble keeping up with DS Lite demand in Japan alone, I'd say they might try to pull an Apple: announcing the product and then releasing it for sale the next day. I don't think they could get enough DS Lites manufactured in time to make that work, certainly not without telegraphing what they were up to way in advance.

I know, I know. A boy can dream...