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punqsux
05-30-2004, 08:43 PM
what do you guys think is the worst console ever?

im gunna wait to announce my, because you guy might remind me of something that sucks even more lol, but right now im thinking atari jaguar

sj41
05-30-2004, 08:45 PM
There's so many choices. :) Hmm.....

MrBrando
05-30-2004, 08:51 PM
Phillips CD-i, I can't believe I actually wanted that thing.

punqsux
05-30-2004, 08:52 PM
Phillips CD-i, I can't believe I actually wanted that thing.

haha yeah i can remember wanting that too

mario23air
05-30-2004, 08:54 PM
Amiga CD32...worst...system...ever... I should know, I have one.

dcfox
05-30-2004, 08:58 PM
I know its technically not a system, but the tiger hand helds that could only play one game were pretty bad. Looking back, I bought so many of those I could've gotten a gameboy instead.

zewone
05-30-2004, 09:04 PM
Looking back, I bought so many of those I could've gotten a gameboy instead.

damn me too. i think virtual boy sucked

bignick
05-30-2004, 09:07 PM
I know its technically not a system, but the tiger hand helds that could only play one game were pretty bad. Looking back, I bought so many of those I could've gotten a gameboy instead.
lol same here, but eachof those was the same price as a Gb game. Worst system? hmmmm, Im gonna have to say saturn I fucking hated it.

punqsux
05-30-2004, 09:07 PM
virtual boy didnt suck, the games it had were fun (for the most part) it just suffered from not getting any support, and having a high price point, i mean even nintendo didnt support it that much!!

but it has its fair share of good games, like mario clash, nesters funky bowling, mario tennis, there were a couple others i liked as well

CaseyRyback
05-30-2004, 09:08 PM
I know its technically not a system, but the tiger hand helds that could only play one game were pretty bad. Looking back, I bought so many of those I could've gotten a gameboy instead.
lol same here, but eachof those was the same price as a Gb game. Worst system? hmmmm, Im gonna have to say saturn I shaq-fuing hated it.

The Saturn is only good if you are willing to import. If not then it is a pretty lackluster system.

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 09:09 PM
I vote for Game.com

punqsux
05-30-2004, 09:10 PM
I know its technically not a system, but the tiger hand helds that could only play one game were pretty bad. Looking back, I bought so many of those I could've gotten a gameboy instead.
lol same here, but eachof those was the same price as a Gb game. Worst system? hmmmm, Im gonna have to say saturn I shaq-fuing hated it.

when saturn came out, i HATED it. why? because i was 12 and loved playstation. simple as that, i wished nothing but bad luck on saturn games, but i for one a few years later, and you know what? its a fun system.

its an aquired taste tho, but there's a good number of domestic games that were just great games. most are kinda pricey now tho (at least for cheap asses, id still rather pay 50$ for dragon force disc only used than van helsing Xop )

chosen1s
05-30-2004, 09:27 PM
I have to second the Game.com

That is easily one of the worst video game experiences of all time for me.

MauMauProductions
05-30-2004, 09:34 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

dcfox
05-30-2004, 09:39 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more.
You could say the same thing about the Game Gear, Neo Geo, and the Wonderswan. I wonder if 10 years from now people will be talking about the N-Gage and Tapwave the same way.

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 09:42 PM
^^HAHAHA...did he really just say Game.com was better than GB???????

bignick
05-30-2004, 09:42 PM
ngage they suck in the now

punqsux
05-30-2004, 09:46 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:

Alpha2
05-30-2004, 09:49 PM
I have to second the sucking of the Vboy.


What better way to spend your afternoon than staring into something that makes you blind? The quality of the games dosent matter if the system is burning your retinas with bright red LED.

ex0
05-30-2004, 09:50 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:

Ohhhh bbbuuuurrrrrnnn

punqsux
05-30-2004, 09:51 PM
I have to second the sucking of the Vboy.


What better way to spend your afternoon than staring into something that makes you blind? The quality of the games dosent matter if the system is burning you retinas with bright red LED.

gaming > retinas
i wonder why my eyesight is so bad... :-k

gamereviewgod
05-30-2004, 09:54 PM
Game.com by far.

The CD32 is great if you have the right games. Just don't expect anything to take full advantage of the hardware. It's kinda like a 16-bit console really.

The Saturn was great here in the states. Guardian Heroes, Virtua Racing, Virtua Fighter 1 & 2, SF Alpha 1 & 2, Panzeer Dragoon (all of them), and plenty more.

The V-Boy had some great soft too. Don't knock until you've played all the way through Wario Land, Panic Bomber, and V-Tetris (import).

paean
05-30-2004, 09:56 PM
Nuon.

dcfox
05-30-2004, 09:59 PM
I have to second the sucking of the Vboy.


What better way to spend your afternoon than staring into something that makes you blind? The quality of the games dosent matter if the system is burning you retinas with bright red LED.

gaming > retinas
i wonder why my eyesight is so bad... :-k
Is that why you have the eyepatch? Just had to get in a few extra minutes on the V-Boy. But no matter how much you knock the Virtual Boy it's by far not Nintendo's worst business decision. For those who read Game Over might remember Nintendo's venture into love hotels.

alongx
05-30-2004, 10:00 PM
The Saturn is only good if you are willing to import. If not then it is a pretty lackluster system.

I'd have to disagree there. I had around 30 games for my Saturn, all of which I loved, and only 8 of which were imports. If you loved the Capcom fighting games, you had to import.

My vote for the worst ever would have to be the Atari Jaguar. Nothing I played on that was even remotely fun, and the POS had the worst controller I've ever seen. A close second would be the CD-i. And I'd say that the 32X should be somewhere on the list of worst consoles, but definitely not the worst. At least 32X had Kolbri, which was possibly the finest humming-bird based shooter I've seen.

red flare graf
05-30-2004, 10:03 PM
I don't even really know.. I haven't taken any big chances with gaming consoles, really. Everything I've bought, I've loved.

epobirs
05-30-2004, 10:05 PM
If it's a system from an established company with deep pockets that simply should have known better, the prize has to go to the Nintendo Virtual Boy. This practically had the word 'DOOMED' printed in 288 point type on the front of the package.

In a business venture you can typically survive one major flaw but not two. The Virtual Boy had two major flaws in that it had a very high price for what it was and it had a terrible lack of a must-have game until well after rigor mortis had set in. If the price were $125 or under it could have held out much longer on sheer novelty until worthy software was produced. Alternately, the presence of a must-have Nintendo franchise would have sustain a lot of sale until the price be brought more in line with mainstream interest. With those two failing working against it simultaneously there was never any hope.

When Blockbuster was getting rid of their rental units (packed with all the accessories in a nice carrying case) for $20 and the game for $2 each I bought a dozen or so to use as gifts. Most of the recipients weren't up enough on the game scene to know what it was so they were utterly blown away.

A close runner up is the Nokia N*GAGE. The idea that this product went into production with the stunningly idiotic design that required removal of the battery to change game cards suggest a incredible among of arrogance within the company in that they apparently conducted almost no serious testing with potential buyers. Going farther back, it's simply stunning that they even got past the blueprint stage without someone pointing out what a horrible design flaw they'd incorporated.

I cannot award the Nokia the grand prize since they've already produced a replacement model that correct most of the implementation flaws. The product may still become a profitable platform.

The Atari Jaguar gets much more abuse than it deserves. In its day it offered a lot of capability the incumbent 16-bit systems couldn't touch. It points out a very important aspect of console marketing. Atari's #1 problem is that they simply didn't have the necessary capital resources needed to make a new platform viable. This same lack of capital is the doom of a number of potentially great devices like the Tapwave Zodiac. The price of properly marketing a new game platform, both to developers and players, starts at $1 Billion. If you can't command that kind of financial resources you're dead before you've even begun.

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 10:08 PM
^^You didnt say which one you vote for...You just went on rambling about different ones and never said a pick...

punqsux
05-30-2004, 10:12 PM
^^You didnt say which one you vote for...You just went on rambling about different ones and never said a pick...

cd-i was a good nomination, but i think my pick is the jaguar, i cant think of anything id even want to play on it

epobirs
05-30-2004, 10:13 PM
OTOH, love hotels are a well established business in Japan and Nintendo's investment in those was likely less than they spent on the company who produced the Virtual Boy technology, nevermind the cost of manufacturing all those units software.

Once again, I must defend the Jaguar and state that it had a number of very enjoyable games, some of them even exclusive. I say this as someone who has owned nearly every system ever offered in the US since the early 80's.

By virtue (?) of its failure overall the Jaguar certainly belongs on the list but all the entries should be made with some perspective and appreciation of each console's specific flaws rather than a blanket "It sucks!"

epobirs
05-30-2004, 10:20 PM
Perhaps someone should create a comprehensive list for a poll. There can be different categories for the nature of the failure. For instance, for a lot of folks the failure of the NUON stealth console within a DVD player would score high in the "Who?" category.

Anyone remember the name of the Pioneer Laser Disc system that took plug in modeules to handle Sega Genesis and TurboGrafx-16 games? It had a genlock feature that let it overlay objects from the game system over FMV for its exclusive games. It was kind of nifty actually but doomed by its very high price, which was around $1400 with both Sega and NEC modules, IIRC.

dcfox
05-30-2004, 10:29 PM
Is it fair to rate hybrid machines along with those that are primarily dedicated to gaming? I mean sure NUON can play games but so can other dvd players. There even have been games made for the VCR (not sure how that would work myself but I've seen them on ebay). Maybe there should some restrictions on what is considered a gaming console.

epobirs
05-30-2004, 10:36 PM
CD-i was a good example of a perfectly good system that was killed by its own parent's bad decisions. It actually did a fair amount of business in some markets. The worst single thing Philips did was to forbid developers to create console-style sprite oriented games. There wasn't great hardware support for such but the sheer horsepower and resolution of the system was so much greater than what else was available when it first hit the market that it still could have had some very impressive games that attracted console gamers while still offering all of those other items that reached beyond the console market into the realm of CD-ROM (which was still far from universal then) equipped PCs without any of the hassles.

Philips was so determined that their product not be mistaken for a overgrown Nintendo that they completely cut themselves off from a critical portion of the market. Like so many others, by the time they wised up and starting trying to do things right it was too late. Too much bad word of mouth and the arrival of the Sony Playstation (the first truly successful CD-ROM based game system in the US) made it impossible to get back that critical market lead time they'd once enjoyed.

I've got a CD-i that Philips me sent with the MPEG-1 decoder module. They were trying to make a software and modem package that would let a CD-i act as a WebTV sort of device. THe MPEG decoder was needed because it added a megabyte of RAM to the system which was desparately needed for the task of web browsing. It was pretty miserable, as you'd probably expect but it did work and did some things better than the Dreamcast software even though this was only a early beta. They never sent a final version but they also never asked for the hardware back. When Best Buy was selling CD-i games and movies for 50 cents I built a very nice instant library.

A lot of my former co-workers from Cinemaware spent time working on CD-i titles. Most of them had gotten to the 'married with children' stage of their lives and found it was much more important to work for the company least likely to bounce a check rather than the one with the coolest rig as they had in their Amiga.

epobirs
05-30-2004, 10:58 PM
Yes, there have been some DVD games but they are of a very limited sort, using the underlying menu system to handle simple branching and plying a chunk of video for that branch until the next decision point.

In other words, Dragon's Lair and not much better.

NUON was far more than that. They used a fairly unconventional architecture that was becoming fashionable at the time but has failed to appear in any reallt successful products. The MPACT chips were also based on VLIW. The company who produced those, Chromatic, was bought out by ATI and their engineers put on completely different projects. Nowadays, the only VLIW product that gets much attention is Transmeta's line of CPUs which have been of dubious value to date.

Nuon didn't have the kind of structure you'd recognize from a sprite or 3D polygon oriented video system but it could do some pretty good stuff. Tempest 3000 was pretty spectacular, albeit a simple classic game enshrouded in spectacular effects. The kart racing game was pretty decent but bizarrely featured a cast of characters with no established visual recognition factor, just names from the Arthurian mythos. Iron Soldier 3 was a pretty fun mech game for the era.

None of it was going to give Sony or Nintendo nightmares but that wasn't the idea. The intent was to create market for DVD with much more than just movies and associated documentaries onboard. Getting the movie and the game of the movie on a single disc was what they were hoping to see as a big enticement to movie studios.

What ultimately doomed NUON, before anything else could, was the price of plain DVD players. This dropped at a much faster rate than they'd expected while the NUON took much longer than planned to reach the market. By that point the product just wasn't very compelling. When the PS2 came out with DVD playback as a subsidized freebie there wasn't the slightest shred of hope for NUON to ever build a nice little niche market.

epobirs
05-30-2004, 11:08 PM
Speaking of games for VCRs, that raises a whole other kind of failed system. Game console than were fully developed with a small library ready but never released.

My favorite is the Hasbro Isyx. This was a box that went in between a VCR and a TV. It had full quality FMV before the first CD-ROM console add-ons were produced. The tape was split into four video tracks to allow all kinds of branching tricks.

This was the platform on which the tempest in a teapot game 'Night Trap' was originally created, along with 'Sewer Shark' and the make your own video series. There was also a sharpshooter.SWAT/assassination sort of exercise in the prototype sample we had but I don't think that ever became a game on another system. All the rest were eventually released as CD-ROM games on the Sega-CD, 3DO, and others.

Basically, Hasbro thought they had a great product but couldn't get the price below $300. They felt this was guaranteed to kill the product so they junked the whole project before going to the manufacturing stage.

dokkeynot
05-30-2004, 11:14 PM
By far, the Playstation 2. How can a system have hundreds of games, and not a single even halfway decent one?

manofpeace20
05-30-2004, 11:14 PM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

sj41
05-30-2004, 11:17 PM
:o :o :o Epobirs, I haven't read a single one of your posts. Damn, those are long. I'm sure you have some good insight into this but I'm too lasy to read that much. Too much work. :wink:

The Cheapest Ass Gamer
05-30-2004, 11:17 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more.

WTF? Are you sure you're talking about Game.com??? I own one of those bastards (I know, I know...I was about 7 when it came out and thought it looked cool) and the framerate almost never goes above like 15 fps. The damn thing is impossible to use! At least the Game Boy actually gave the illusion of movement. :?

Anyway, I vote Game.com.

The Cheapest Ass Gamer
05-30-2004, 11:23 PM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

Yes, NES systems never lasted more than a few years. I remember the sad, slow deterioration of my first gaming console, but that was because of the moving parts that Nintendo for some reason thought was a good idea. Reliability-wise, yes, the NES was not an example of a well-built system. But look at what it did to the gaming industry! The games themselves were revolutionary. You wouldn't have PS2 or Xbox today if not for the NES--it saved a defunct, downhill fad from being just that.

CaseyRyback
05-30-2004, 11:23 PM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

the only problem with your philosophy is that all that is bad are the pins and replacment pins cost 8 bucks or you can just bend the ones in your system back to fix the problem.

SolinariDotCom
05-30-2004, 11:26 PM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

Yes, NES systems never lasted more than a few years. I remember the sad, slow deterioration of my first gaming console, but that was because of the moving parts that Nintendo for some reason thought was a good idea. Reliability-wise, yes, the NES was not an example of a well-built system. But look at what it did to the gaming industry! The games themselves were revolutionary. You wouldn't have PS2 or Xbox today if not for the NES--it saved a defunct, downhill fad from being just that.

I can't see all the heavy heat on the blinking issue. My 15 year old NES systems (three or so) have the problem, but it's just an annoyance at best and doesn't hinder me indefinitely.

manofpeace20
05-30-2004, 11:27 PM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

the only problem with your philosophy is that all that is bad are the pins and replacment pins cost 8 bucks or you can just bend the ones in your system back to fix the problem.

The only problem with that is the games get messed up. each time I bought a new NES and I put in a game I previously put in the NES, the whole system would have the flashing red light.

I'm not denying the NES had excellent games, some of my favorites of all time are on that system.

Ugamer_X
05-30-2004, 11:29 PM
The worst system would probably be the Memorex VIS. It was released during that period where companies were trying to establish the All-in-One box. It had almost no true games, just a bunch of edutainment software.

That being said I still hold a soft spot for the VIS just because it is an extremely obscure console and it was the first console that Microsoft worked on (not the Xbox). It included the precursor to what became known as Windows CE.

elprincipe
05-30-2004, 11:37 PM
Virtual Boy is my pick. I have yet to play a system besides VB that actually physically hurt me (it hurt my eyes after trying for 5 minutes in TRU). As crappy as any other system has been, at least you could play them without physically damaging your eyes (maybe psychological damage though).

Jaguar isn't anywhere near the worst I would say. Sure, there aren't more than a handful of good games for it, but there are a few that make it worth my while to own one. Tempest 2000 in particular is an excellent game.

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 11:42 PM
Also I vote for the Socrates...I dont know if anyone else had one...but the only games were learning games (yes I know it was a system for learning) but they were not fun at all...well maybe they were cuz I was little but still...It had soooo many problems...Like one out of 10 times it would actually work and it had wireless controllers but they were like really bad remote controls and you had to point it at the system for it to work...

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 11:43 PM
this is it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2518&item=31876481 79&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

FaintDeftone
05-30-2004, 11:44 PM
I'm going with the CDI. Crap educational games = crap system.

The Virtual Boy would have been my pic, but I loved that Wario game they had on it. It was a blast. Then I was gonna say Game.com but then I remembered that it was fun to play Solitare on.

and shame on the folks who hated the Saturn. The console was the shit. You gotta be a die hard gaming freak to enjoy most of it's games though. Like someone said above, you gotta have a certain taste.

punqsux
05-30-2004, 11:45 PM
socrates fucking ruled!!!!

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 11:48 PM
Wow...I cant believe someone else knows what it is...no one else that Ive ever met has ever know what in the hell it was...I wish mine still worked (I threw it away cuz it wouldnt work)...I found one on ebay a while ago for 5 bucks but I missed the bid time...

elprincipe
05-30-2004, 11:49 PM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

Actually, the original NES had just one problem: the connector eventually wore out and made the games difficult to use. It is one piece of the system that is easily replaced with a $6 new one (people sell them on eBay all the time). The systems themselves, other than this one piece, are extremely durable and reliable. If you're looking to get your NES to work every time I suggest getting a new 72-pin connector and installing it in your NES. I did so; it only takes 10 minutes of your time and a screwdriver. My NES games work every time.

The least reliable systems are no doubt Playstation and Playstation 2. These things break very easily and are cheaply made, especially the first models of each.

punqsux
05-30-2004, 11:52 PM
Wow...I cant believe someone else knows what it is...no one else that Ive ever met has ever know what in the hell it was...I wish mine still worked (I threw it away cuz it wouldnt work)...I found one on ebay a while ago for 5 bucks but I missed the bid time...

it was my first "computer" i loved it when i was a kid, especially the spelling game with the space ship! oh man next time im home im gunna ask my mom if its around anywhere

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 11:55 PM
haha...yeah i remember the space ship! Im trying to find one on ebay but I cant find one...I did find FF1 for $5 though ^_^

karmapolice
05-30-2004, 11:57 PM
nobodies nominated this cd-i...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=81080187 31&rd=1

Missingdata
05-31-2004, 12:02 AM
yea... game.com is the worst yet...

GizmoGC
05-31-2004, 12:06 AM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

For Game.com? I need to play this!!!!

hohndog
05-31-2004, 12:07 AM
In my experience, I'd have to vote the worst video game system to be the Sega 32X. It had a very short life with nothing but slightly beefed-up rehash games. I'm a huge fan of Sega and still own a Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn. The 32X was a waste of time and money. As for the CDi, there were a few games that were decent for adults, but most were designed for little kids. We still have two CDi systems, but my kids have long since stopped using them. Same CAG's voted for the Virtua Boy, but that system was actually pretty cool, if you could get over the color RED for every game. Good graphics for the time however. My 2 cents...

karmapolice
05-31-2004, 12:12 AM
gizmo if your serious...well...then you need serious help...

GizmoGC
05-31-2004, 12:18 AM
It was suppose to be a port of the PSX from what ive read. I'd love to atleast try what they had finished of it. Sounds interesting.

alongx
05-31-2004, 12:51 AM
nobodies nominated this cd-i...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=81080187 31&rd=1

Eh, this just exemplifies one of the things that made CDi a little...well, retarted. There was Magnavox CDi, Philips CDi, and I think there might have been Panasonic and Matsushita models as well. I still can't figure out why they'd want to have multiple manufacturers producing the same hardware.

Maynard
05-31-2004, 01:13 AM
see i disagree that xbox doesn't have good games even though i hate MS i still think that did the system right and developers love it. AND in animation school were lerndined how to program with console (game development class) and it is much easier. I would have to say the worst system ever was 32X i remember my dad yelling at me cause i begged for one and then my neighbor got it. I remember playing Doom 32x and some motocross game and saying holy shit i'm so glad i didn't make my dad buy this, he would have beat me with the unit.


meynerd

WeaponX2099
05-31-2004, 01:19 AM
I vote for Phillips Cd-I. My Mom was helping test market them, and 1 out 20 store employees didn't even knew the thing existed. So how can you sell them. Plus the games sucked.

32x was ok. Doom was good for it.

Also, the saturn kicks ass. the capcom games main reason to own a saturn besides Nights.

Maynard
05-31-2004, 01:26 AM
ROFL i'm not making fun of you but it seems that the only game ANYONE remembers on 32x is the almighty doom it just makes me laugh, and the other funny part is you say it was "ok" doom was good


heh funny stuff

meynerd

SolinariDotCom
05-31-2004, 02:13 AM
Knuckles Chaotix.

SneakyPenguin
05-31-2004, 02:17 AM
X-Box

gamefreak117
05-31-2004, 02:20 AM
My vote goes to game.com...

I remember a years back that I saying how cool it was to a friend seeing it advertised. I made him buy it, I tried it, and I accidently dropped it. Oopsie, Some part chipped off. Anyway I forgot about the quality of the system, but I think the dashboard was hard to control.

Eclipse
06-01-2004, 07:19 AM
um...Id go with the ngage...That system was a damn dog, and i knew it the first time i picked it up. Taco phone, or as better put by Admiral Ackbar, "gonorrhea'

+32x

As for the virtual boy, poor thing was doomed thanks to it being rushed. I read that there were many more features that were supposed to be implemented which didnt make it thanks to the deadline being pulled back to release the system on a favorable sales season.

Among these missing features: Full color

So i cant call it that bad. Some of the games were actually decent.

hohndog
06-01-2004, 07:31 AM
CDi had some excellent edutainment titles for kids and a few decent games for adults if you had the digital video cartridge. Kether comes to mind. There are others, but I have not used the system in a while. They also had a kid roller controller that my kids were using at 3 years old. It had its place back in the day, but again, it was really focused towards younger kids.

Eclipse
06-01-2004, 08:02 AM
to the cdi, i counter with...

http://www.nippobrasil.com.br/2.semanal.manga/top10/fotos/top10_04Zelda.jpg

wand of gamelon.......

chosen1s
06-01-2004, 08:04 AM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

Yes, NES systems never lasted more than a few years. I remember the sad, slow deterioration of my first gaming console, but that was because of the moving parts that Nintendo for some reason thought was a good idea. Reliability-wise, yes, the NES was not an example of a well-built system. But look at what it did to the gaming industry! The games themselves were revolutionary. You wouldn't have PS2 or Xbox today if not for the NES--it saved a defunct, downhill fad from being just that.

Your NES didn't work because you didn't take care of it. I had an NES for years and never experienced the blinking problem.

moe11888
06-01-2004, 08:56 AM
n-gage

PsyClerk
06-01-2004, 09:29 AM
I have a Virtual Boy still set up at my house. In fact, I bought games for it not too long ago, though I haven't played it in a few months. It had some great games, like Wario Land, Mario Tennis and Panic Bomber. It's biggest problem was price, and when it didn't sell at $220 or whatever the hell it was priced at, Nintendo gave up on it.

The Game.com doesn't have much of a library, but it had Lights Out, which was addictive. A couple of it's ports were ok, but it just had too many card games and crap like Jeopardy. Note that Game.com had an internet kit, which was ahead of it's time. Anyways, it's a handheld, not a console.

Sega 32X...well, I can't think of any redeeming qualities for it. I guess it gets my vote.

Sylent Khaos
06-01-2004, 09:47 AM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:

Yea I see what you mean, thats why no one owns an Xbox, and it doesn't average 7 game sold per a console <END SARCASM>

Are you high? The Xbox is the only system to out sell the PS2. Did you see Xbox's E3...they took the show.

As for the worst tytem ever, its a tie between the Virtual boy and the Jaguar. Why people say the Saturn i don't know (The Saturn was great, it just had terrible advertsing/marketing and never became as popular as the Playstation).

bmulligan
06-01-2004, 11:15 AM
Are you high? The Xbox is the only system to out sell the PS2.

Yeah, for 1 month, in an almost saturated market. Do your math fanboy and add up the months for the last few years.

And as for power and lack of sales. Look at TG16. Most power, last in sales. Atari-Lynx? Jaguar? Neo-Geo? Lots of things are at work in the market besides raw system power, my fine feathered friend.

punqsux
06-01-2004, 11:23 AM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:

Yea I see what you mean, thats why no one owns an Xbox, and it doesn't average 7 game sold per a console <END SARCASM>

Are you high? The Xbox is the only system to out sell the PS2. Did you see Xbox's E3...they took the show.

As for the worst tytem ever, its a tie between the Virtual boy and the Jaguar. Why people say the Saturn i don't know (The Saturn was great, it just had terrible advertsing/marketing and never became as popular as the Playstation).

xbox outsold ps2 for 1 month, when xbox dropped in price. ps2 didnt sell as many when they dropped because so many people already own a ps2, there wernt as many waiting for a price drop.

im not sure if you even know what e3 is, but it was all nintendo. xbox had nothing but a release date for halo 2, and really, who cares about that?

i said the xbox purley in jest, but it has a weak line up. yes it has good games, and ill list them:

ninja gaiden
panzer dragoon

i know xbox has alot of 3rd party games, but so do the other 2 systems, so they really dont count because exclusive games are where its at., and xbox lacks greatly in this department.

just because of your post, i change my vote to xbox as worst system ever

back to you cave troll

Hot Sizzle
06-01-2004, 11:34 AM
Wow all the hatin' on the xbox reminds me of gamefaqs.com boards lol

Anyway I vote for CD-I too, I remember watching some video about it and wanting one, but never even saw it in any store or any games.

PsyClerk
06-01-2004, 11:34 AM
Actually the trolls are the ones that say something that's obviously stupid, like calling the Xbox the worst console ever when it's obvious the GameCube is the worst console ever.

http://home.nc.rr.com/clerk/images/torch.jpg

punqsux
06-01-2004, 11:36 AM
i think saying "xbox took e3" is obviously stupid ^^

daphatty
06-01-2004, 11:40 AM
By far, the Playstation 2. How can a system have hundreds of games, and not a single even halfway decent one?

I hope you don't call yourself a gamer because you are not.

daphatty
06-01-2004, 11:49 AM
Are you high? The Xbox is the only system to out sell the PS2. Did you see Xbox's E3...they took the show.


What are YOU smoking? Xbox took the show? Please. I guess you didn't see how shitty the playable Doom 3 looked did you? It truly showed what the Xbox can't do. And what's up with that booth design? It was a cluster fuck. Elbow to elbow gamers in a space barely bigger than Sega's booth.

Eclipse
06-01-2004, 12:32 PM
http://www.kartek.com/prod-windows/all/safety/bsr-a500.jpg



flame off...

Akkis99
06-01-2004, 12:46 PM
id say the 3d0. my cousins got one and i played it. Id say that was hot garabge.

Theenternal
06-01-2004, 12:57 PM
Also I vote for the Socrates...I dont know if anyone else had one...but the only games were learning games (yes I know it was a system for learning) but they were not fun at all...well maybe they were cuz I was little but still...It had soooo many problems...Like one out of 10 times it would actually work and it had wireless controllers but they were like really bad remote controls and you had to point it at the system for it to work...

Yesss I had a Socrates, my mom bought me it, and the system was pretty lame..

I had a Jaguar too, and it had some worthy titles during its day, although iits high on the list for bad consoles, I remember I traded my snes +14 games in to funco so I could get a jaguar. Luckally all the snes games I had are pretty cheap to get today...But after play the few games good games, I put an ad in the newspaper, and some redneck came and bought it... said he sold his playstation so he could buy it. I bought a playstation later that year :).

But for also being an owner of a 32x,cdi,and 3do. I feel I have a good assortment to compare sorry systems too ;)

btw anyone purchase a gameaxe?

jshorr
06-01-2004, 01:15 PM
I was pretty big into game.com when it first came out. I even went out and bought the communications kit or whatever it was called, and hooked it up to an external modem. You could dial up and access a shell, check your email. A few months later I realized it was horrible....

PsyClerk
06-01-2004, 01:16 PM
The Jaguar is going for about $150 on eBay right now. Why?

CaseyRyback
06-01-2004, 01:18 PM
The Jaguar is going for about $150 on eBay right now. Why?

I guess it is because they sold off all the excess systems and turned them into something for dentists (did not catch the whole story, saw a clip on G4)

Eclipse
06-01-2004, 01:18 PM
because its a ripoff.

opportunity777
06-01-2004, 01:22 PM
NGAGE anyone? :)

It's pretty close to the worst if not the worst. Easily in the top 3.

eldad9
06-01-2004, 01:46 PM
What about the Adventure Vision (http://www.adventurevision.com/)?

Enjoy a huge range of titles - collect all four.

karmapolice
06-01-2004, 06:26 PM
Game.com was made by Tiger Electronics...enough said...

bmulligan
06-01-2004, 11:52 PM
hmmmmmph...I thought adventurevision was pretty cool.

I vote Atari 5200. The controlers were crap, easily broken. And non-centering analog sticks were a stupid idea. The games were great but without a decent controller, it was meaningless. Not to mention the idiotic, irreplacable power supply/ rf modulator.

And some of you guys complain about Sega not supporting their consoles?

epobirs
06-02-2004, 12:34 AM
One of the things that created an ongoing market for Jaguar systems is that it's open to anyone who cares to hack at it. When Hasbro acquired all of the Atari assets they made the security codes and schema publicly available and also put the SDK in the public domain. There is a interesting little community doing Jaguar games still. Having easy access makes it a different scene than hacking other defunct consoles.

The source code for Jaguar Doom can be obtained here:
http://doomworld.com/classicdoom/ports/index.php?platform=4

Those bringing up Doom on the 32X should be ashamed of themselves. That was one of the worst version of Doom ever. The enemies weren't 3D! No matter which direction you approached them from they were always facing you. This meant they always saw you, too and thus completely changed the game play. Pretty sad considering that the original Pac-Man arcade game incorporated enemy behavior based on which way their eyes were facing to determine if they saw you and gave chase.

Doom for the Jaguar, OTOH, was undeniably the finest ROM based version, encoded by id, not handed off to some hapless contractor. (The Jaguar version of Wolfenstein 3D was also coded by id but was only practice for Doom in term of technical accomplishment.)
http://www.atariage.com/manual_html_page.html?SoftwareID=2516

If someone wants a good 32X game to point to there's Star Wars. This one was pretty fun and for some odd reason there has never been another home version of that arcade game on more capable hardware. Some dispute between Sega and Lucas?

PittsburghAfterDark
06-02-2004, 12:45 AM
Nothing comes close to the suckiness of the Atari Jaguar. The launch consisted of Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy and Cybermorph. For every AVP, Tempest 2000 or Iron Soldier there was a Kasumi Ninja. It was pure unadulterated crap.

Next on my list of sucky consoles is the Virtua Boy. I wouldn't know about any of the games on it being any good. I played the demo in a Toys R Us and had a headache for 2 hours that wouldn't quit. Sorry, that defines pure unfiltered suck.

Say what you want about the CD-I, 3DO (Which had at least 20 good games even if they were PC games.) 32x or any other "contenders" but those two are the top suck fiends ito date.

epobirs
06-02-2004, 12:47 AM
Heh, in the early 80's I worked at a computer store that was also an Atari Service Center. We spent a huge amount of time fixing 5200 controllers free of charge to the customer but we did get paid by Atari since there was a recall on the first generation units. The only recall on avideo game controller I've ever known. We did a nice business on the Wico replacement controller that had proper centering.

The 5200 controller is like the game slot debacle on the Nokia N*Gage. Why didn't they give consumer test groups a chance to tell them it was a terrible idea. It wouldn't have been so bad if it had centering and if they took advantage of the analog in more games. (I only recall one game that did but cannot remember the title.) The vast majority of 5200 games were existing Atari 400/800 games recoded to use the 5200 controller. The systems were completely identical from a programming perspective other than the controllers and a tiny handful of other items. Hardly any developer wanted to make games that really used the 5200 controller thoroughly since they also wanted to release that game for the 400/800 with its single button 4-switch sticks. I can only recall one 5200 exclusive release in its whole existence: Countermeasure.

PittsburghAfterDark
06-02-2004, 01:00 AM
The Atari 5200 was nothing more than a 400/800 chipset. That was obvious even at the time. It wasn't a next generation console, the 7800 would have been. The 5200 was a chipset designed in 1978 designed to be an advance in 1982. That's like someone now coming out with a 500 Mhz G3 chip or a Pentium 3 733 and telling you now it's state of the art console. They'd be laughed off the stage before their announcement was done.

I have to comment on this quote... "And as for power and lack of sales. Look at TG16. Most power, last in sales. Atari-Lynx? Jaguar? Neo-Geo? Lots of things are at work in the market besides raw system power, my fine feathered friend."

The TG-16 was not the most powerful 16 bit machine. In fact it wasn't even a true 16 bit machine, it was an 8 bit CPU with a 16 bit graphics chip hence it was really an 8 bit machine. The Lynx may have indeed been the most powerful handheld until the GBA launched. It ate batteries like a fiend as did the Sega Master System based Game Gear. On to the Jaguar.... it was NEVER a 64 bit machine. Nothing in the architecture was 64 bit, it was a combination of chips that let Atari make the claim.

Last but not least the beloved Neo Geo. Yes, it was the most powerful console released until 1995. It was the undisputed power king for 6 full years and still to this day arguably the best 2-D console ever made. However the Neo was never, ever aimed at the mass market. Not when it cost $500 to buy and the games were so memory ROM intensive they cost $200.

Last but not least, with the exception of the PSone, the most powerful console doesn't win. Oh and to you SNES crybabies.... yeah... Nintendo won when Sega quit and went Saturn head to head they were always second. It's easy to win a race when your competitor quits.

EDIT: POST 100! WOOOHOO! :beer:

bmulligan
06-02-2004, 01:16 AM
The TG-16 was not the most powerful 16 bit machine. In fact it wasn't even a true 16 bit machine, it was an 8 bit CPU with a 16 bit graphics chip hence it was really an 8 bit machine.

It may not have been a 'true' 16 bit machine but were not comparing it to 16 bit machines. It's competition was the NES and it was, inarguably, the more powerfull of the two. Or the three if we're counting the Master System which was also an NES competitor.

YoshiFan1
06-02-2004, 01:20 AM
I'm going to say Virtual Boy. Any system was a warning on the box saying that anyone under 7 who uses it could get permanent eye damage is a disaster. Other than Wario, none of the games were that great and it was an uncomfortable system to use and was very fragile.

As for the CD-I, I thought it was a good system at the time. I had a lot of fun playing some of the games like Video Speedway

elprincipe
06-02-2004, 01:32 AM
Everybody ragging on 32X should go play Space Harrier. Perfect arcade port of an incredible game, minus the ultra-cool moving chair of the arcade of course. SH alone made my 32X well worth the $15 I spent for it (also included 2 games).

BlueWingX
06-02-2004, 01:33 AM
I'm going with Virtual Boy, too. I rented one when they came out, and yeah, the games were fun for the few minutes I could play them before the fucking headache from hell set it. Good god! If I wanted a headache from gaming, I could just sit real close to the tv, turn the colume way up, or just bash myself in the head with a fucking NES Advantage for a few minutes!

Also, I got my NES back when the original Zelda came out, and sure, it acts a little funny sometimes, but overall, it works just fine. I love my NES. :)

PittsburghAfterDark
06-02-2004, 01:37 AM
"It's competition was the NES and it was, inarguably, the more powerfull of the two. Or the three if we're counting the Master System which was also an NES competitor."

Dude, it wasn't an NES competitor. It was launched head to head with the Mega Drive in Japan. It was supposed to be a Genesis and SNES competitor not an 8 bit competitor.

epobirs
06-02-2004, 01:51 AM
Some clarification is called for.

In terms of the video game market in 1982 the use of the 400/800 chipset was indeed a big advance on the Atari VCS. The two system were designed by the same engineers consectutively with the difference at the time being that the VCS would be a $300 video game while the Atari 800 would be an $1100 computer. From a game development perspective that difference was massive.

The competition was hardly any better in terms of the recentness of their chipsets. Everything in the Colecovision was equally of 70's vintage. A Z80 CPU, Yamaha/GI audio chip that was in a zillion devices, and the video chip TI had been putting in their TI-994A home computer for years when the Colecovision was released. Atari at least engineered their own coprocessors. Coleco was entirely dependent on COTS parts, which is why Japanese companies were easily able to build their MSX design as a Coleco clone and run the same carts with a pinout adapter.

The Jaguar most certainly did have a 64-bit element in its architecture in the form of its main bus. It was a 64-bit wide path which was useful for moving data around quickly and such wide busses are extremely common on graphic systems today. This is not the criterion used by most to decribe the 'bitness' of a system. By this description the Intel Pentiums would be 64-bit chips since they use a 64-bit path to memory. Yes, the Atari marketing blather was overdone but this doesn't change the fact that the Jaguar could do quite a lot of things that the existing systems when it was first released couldn't touch. As I said before, the deficiency was in Atari's funding, not in the machine itself.

The Neo-Geo was never intended to be a force in the home market. I had an interesting interview with SNK's North American manager about this. SNK's single biggest expense item was mask ROMs. They used huge amounts in their arcade boards but ordering ROMs exclusively for the arcade business meant very small production runs and very high cost per set. Creating a niche market home version their arcade machine allowed them to quadruple the size of their mask ROM orders and reduce the cost per set by nearly half. The home business wasn't a big money maker but it cut the cost of the arcade board so much that those margins were a big boost for the company. It was a great idea for a while but things changed over the years and SNK failed to keep up with those changes. They missed a big chance to get serious in the home market by taking too long to go to CD-ROM and not putting enough RAM in the systems to deal with the transition from direct memory mapping to loaded data.

I'd comment on your last paragraph but frankly, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. At what point when the SNES and Genesis were their respective producer's lead products did Sega 'quit.' If you're referring to the point where Sega withdrew from the hardware market after Dreamcast failed to reach the mainstream consumer market, what has that to do the SNES era of the better part of many years prior? If you're trying to suggest that the Genesis was a more powerful machine I'd have to disagree. Having been involved in Apple ][GS software development I have no great love for the 65816 (although the CPU in of itself wasn't what was wrong with the ][GS it very existence made the ][GS and much horror possible) the SNES coprocessor set was substantially more sophisticated than that of the Genesis.

Nintendo didn't win on hardware alone. They also had a contractual stranglehold on third party developer publishing in the US and this gave them a huge early advantage in in exclusives like Street Fighter II until Sega finally wised up and sued. They eventually settled out of court and the field was finally even. (NEC never sued because they were also a chip supplier to Nintendo and weren't willing to risk that business. So many of the best PC Engine games were never released for US consumption on the TG-16 because those games had already appeared on the NES and had a minimum 2 year period before they could appear on a competing platform, by which time the game no longer were considered worth issuing.

epobirs
06-02-2004, 02:09 AM
"It's competition was the NES and it was, inarguably, the more powerfull of the two. Or the three if we're counting the Master System which was also an NES competitor."

Dude, it wasn't an NES competitor. It was launched head to head with the Mega Drive in Japan. It was supposed to be a Genesis and SNES competitor not an 8 bit competitor.

Not true. The PC Engine was on sale in Japan well before the Mega Drive was shipping. At the company where I then worked (Cinemaware) we had both NEC and Sega trying to get our support. NEC was able to ship us for retail packages of the hardware and then library of about 16 games while Sega provided us with primarily pre-production material. (Cinemaware ended up going with NEC because Bob Jacob, the boss, was utterly psyched about the potential of CD-ROM and NEC was already well underway with add-on for that. It wasn't until the PlayStation that CD-ROM really paid off.)

At this point the Famicom/NES was the platform to beat. The Super Famicom/SNES was released in Japan almost two years after the PC Engine had ascended to the #1 position in the Japanese market. The Mega Drive never achieved better than a distant third position in Japan, much like the same status the TG-16 had in the US. Sega had its own arcade hits to draw upon but was still getting the hang of working with third party developers. Many of them like Capcom and Namco were intense competitors with Sega in the arcades and weren't thrill about supporting Sega's home system. Nintendo OTOH had largely withdrawn from the arcade business and most arcade companies were happy to do Famicom games except for Namco whose leader was highly resistant to Nintendo's royalty scheme despite the huge sums Namco had already earned as a Famicom developer. NEC, likewise, was not a competitor for the arcade market and just about everybody was happy to produce games for them. This included versions of many Famicom hits that anyone could immediately see were hugely improved on the new platform. NEC gained marketshare at a ferocious pace.

tolhurst
06-02-2004, 02:27 AM
I'll have to go with game.com I bought on at kb for 9.99 and subsequently ordered four games for 18 dollars (Sonic Jam,Resident Evil, Duke Nukem and Fighter's Megmix). I opened and played the Sonic Jam first... the frame rate was so horrible it was like playing a Game and Watch..but then add blurring four times worse then the original game boy. A few years later I still have not had the nerve to try the other three games.

I also have (but still unopened) an R-Zone (two different versions) and a few games (including NIGHTS of all things) are these worth opening up and trying out?

one more thing.... by virture of unresponsive, uncomfortable and near impossible to replace controllers (do to them being hardwired onto the console) The intellivision is a major chore to try to enjoy.

Maxwell31
06-02-2004, 02:49 AM
Turbografix sixteen system. What a piece of junk.

manofpeace20
06-02-2004, 03:06 AM
My vote goes out to the original NES, and here is why:

Sure the games were incredible, as many will find out when some more get rereleased in the coming months, but the system was a piece of crap. Many people I know nowadays complain about the PS2 disc read errors as being the end-all, but old school gamers will surely remember that constant twitching red light. The only reason I bought 3 NES systems was because the games were so addictive. To this day, there has not been a poorer model than the first NES.

Yes, NES systems never lasted more than a few years. I remember the sad, slow deterioration of my first gaming console, but that was because of the moving parts that Nintendo for some reason thought was a good idea. Reliability-wise, yes, the NES was not an example of a well-built system. But look at what it did to the gaming industry! The games themselves were revolutionary. You wouldn't have PS2 or Xbox today if not for the NES--it saved a defunct, downhill fad from being just that.

Your NES didn't work because you didn't take care of it. I had an NES for years and never experienced the blinking problem.

Are we talking about the NES here? You are the first person I ever known to say that about the NES.

muhammed
06-02-2004, 04:13 AM
I think it was the Sega Cd, to this day i dont know why I forked over all that loot for that piece of gamin crap. The game that came with it Sewer Shark shouldve been flushed down the sewer, the system was a piece of junk.
Fo Shizzle My Nizzle

bmulligan
06-02-2004, 08:46 AM
"It's competition was the NES and it was, inarguably, the more powerfull of the two. Or the three if we're counting the Master System which was also an NES competitor."

Dude, it wasn't an NES competitor. It was launched head to head with the Mega Drive in Japan. It was supposed to be a Genesis and SNES competitor not an 8 bit competitor.

In Japan, shortly after the introduction of Nintendo's Famicom (Japan's version of the NES), the electronics giant NEC entered into the videogame market with the introduction of their "next generation" system, known as the PC Engine (PCE).


http://www.classicgaming.com/museum/tg16/

mmm,mmmmm, Bitch!

Eclipse
06-02-2004, 08:56 AM
zzzzzZING!

schultzed
06-02-2004, 09:08 AM
Virtual Boy was an awful system . . . that said I wish I had bought one when I saw it for $20 used at a Blockbuster . . . damn!

Also of note is the N-Gage . . . having to remove the back to change games???

PittsburghAfterDark
06-02-2004, 09:32 AM
Try this one bitch....

History of Turbo Grafx 16 (http://www.eccentrix.com/members/tokeijikake_ki/pc_engine/pce_history.htm)

Or...

History of Computing: games Modern Age (http://www.thocp.net/software/games/modern_age.htm)

Or even this one...

7 generations of gaming consoles . (http://www.freewebs.com/ultimatevideogamecollection/)

Toss my salad you wannabe expert.

punqsux
06-02-2004, 09:42 AM
umm tg 16 was released in 89, same year as the genesis, but tg16 didnt make an impact until ~1 year later, which was a year before the snes. while it was around at the same time as the nes, it wasnt really competition because the next nintendo system was on its way in by the time tg16 started getting popular

elprincipe
06-02-2004, 12:35 PM
Turbografix sixteen system. What a piece of junk.

So the only games you tried were Keith Courage and Vigilante, right? :roll:

PsyClerk
06-02-2004, 12:42 PM
I don't recall that many great TG16 games myself. Though it had Military Madness, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

LeviathynX
06-02-2004, 12:52 PM
3DO or Jaguar. Two 32 bit processors. Now that's blazin!

XboxMaster
06-02-2004, 04:21 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:


:shock: , ARGHHH......FANBOY......RAGES......EMERGING!!! CAN'T.....HOLD....IT.....MUCH...LONGER.....

daphatty
06-02-2004, 04:38 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:


:shock: , ARGHHH......FANBOY......RAGES......EMERGING!!! CAN'T.....HOLD....IT.....MUCH...LONGER.....

HAHAHAHAHA!!! :rofl: At least he admits he's a fanboy. That's the first step to recovery. :lol:

XboxMaster
06-02-2004, 05:11 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:


:shock: , ARGHHH......FANBOY......RAGES......EMERGING!!! CAN'T.....HOLD....IT.....MUCH...LONGER.....

HAHAHAHAHA!!! :rofl: At least he admits he's a fanboy. That's the first step to recovery. :lol:


Have you been gone for a while? I can remember pretty well many times I have called myself an Xbox fanboy. Anyway, I think I'm in too deep to ever come out.

Ericnmel99
06-02-2004, 05:15 PM
I think the worst system ws the Super combined Mountain combo of the Sega Genesis With Sega Cd and the 32x attached at top. Talk about one big combo system of pure crappiness.

bmulligan
06-02-2004, 11:40 PM
Try this one bitch....

History of Turbo Grafx 16 (http://www.eccentrix.com/members/tokeijikake_ki/pc_engine/pce_history.htm)

Or...

History of Computing: games Modern Age (http://www.thocp.net/software/games/modern_age.htm)

Or even this one...

7 generations of gaming consoles . (http://www.freewebs.com/ultimatevideogamecollection/)

Toss my salad you wannabe expert.

LOL! Go toss yourself some more. You just linked to 3 sites that proved my point. Don't they teach you to read in high school nowadays?

epobirs
06-02-2004, 11:52 PM
The Famicom was sold in Japan for over five years before NEC released the PC Engine. If the two systems had entered the market simulataneously the Famicom would have been utterly destroyed, unless you consider that the PC Engine's video chip would have made for a prohibitively expensive game system in 1982.

NEC's PC Engine came into the Famicom dominated market toward the end of the Nintendo's reign but with a substantial lead over the announcement of the Super Famicom/SNEs and managed to grab a major chunk of the Japanese market in that time because it was ripe for a new hardware platform.

epobirs
06-02-2004, 11:59 PM
I think the worst system ws the Super combined Mountain combo of the Sega Genesis With Sega Cd and the 32x attached at top. Talk about one big combo system of pure crappiness.

Ah yes, Mt. Sega I like to call mine. Which in turn meant finding outlets for three big wall warts so Sega created their own poer strip. It had five sockets in stead of six with the sockets spaced with the letters S E G A to make especially useful with wall warts.
http://www.shinforce.com/general/Peripherals.htm

At one point Good Guys was having one of their blowout sales and had these marked down to $3 each. I bought about a dozen and still get a lot of use from them almost a decade later.

Thunderscope
06-06-2004, 10:52 AM
Thats looks kinda cool, but remember you can only plug Sega systems into it! LOL

Reality's Fringe
06-06-2004, 02:44 PM
My vote goes for the SNES. Never in my life have I had a console which I'm STILL shelling out tons of cash for games and accessories on. DAMN YOU AND YOUR HIGH QUALITY GAMING GOODNESS!!

Tom
06-06-2004, 04:16 PM
Try this one bitch....

History of Turbo Grafx 16 (http://www.eccentrix.com/members/tokeijikake_ki/pc_engine/pce_history.htm)

Or...

History of Computing: games Modern Age (http://www.thocp.net/software/games/modern_age.htm)

Or even this one...

7 generations of gaming consoles . (http://www.freewebs.com/ultimatevideogamecollection/)

Toss my salad you wannabe expert.

LOL! Go toss yourself some more. You just linked to 3 sites that proved my point. Don't they teach you to read in high school nowadays?
Actually they teach him reading in elementary, but when he made it to high school he was too far gone so they just let him stare at the wall.

Lil Stinky
06-06-2004, 04:32 PM
Game.com was much more fun that the original Game Boy. If only it was supported more. Castlevania SOTN (played a Demo ROM got it from Rom World) was sick...if that came out I woulda been SOLD.

Worst system...I HATED The N64 but I'll say The Pippin.

the most powerful system in the world dosent matter if it dosent have good games....look at xbox :wink:

Ohhhh bbbuuuurrrrrnnn

It only burns if its true. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Lil Stinky
06-06-2004, 04:33 PM
I vote for the Virtual Boy. Not because the games sucked but because of the headache that happened when playing one.

xspeedracerx
06-06-2004, 04:47 PM
I vote for gamecube, there is like one good game on it, and thats..... well none. :hot:

Lil Stinky
06-06-2004, 04:50 PM
I know its technically not a system, but the tiger hand helds that could only play one game were pretty bad. Looking back, I bought so many of those I could've gotten a gameboy instead.
lol same here, but eachof those was the same price as a Gb game. Worst system? hmmmm, Im gonna have to say saturn I shaq-fuing hated it.

Are you nuts? The Saturn was home to Panzer Dragoon Saga, Virtua Fighter 2, Fighters MegaMix, Nights Into Dreams, Daytona(even with all the pop-up it was glorious), Dragon Force, Gaurdian Heroes, Iron Storm, Panzer Dragoon 1&2, Sega Rally Championship, Shining Force 3, Three Dirty Dwarves, World Series Baseball 1&2 and X-Men:Children of the Atom. I rest my case!

BlueStorm781
06-08-2004, 02:53 AM
I would say out of hardware quality, popularity, game lineup and consumer success, the Atari Jaguar comes out as the worst console. The hardware was a joke. Atari claims it was 64-bit, but a lot of the games still looked like they belonged on the Super NES. After October 1996, could Atari seriously and honestly stare us in the eye and tell us that the Jaguar was 64 bit, after seeing what the N64 did? The system's popularity seemed almost less than Nintendo's Virtual Boy system. The game line-up was bad, and not a hell of a lot of third party companies would publish for the console. Even Acclaim stayed away from the system, and we all know how much of a "quality" company Acclaim is.

Some say that the Virtual Boy was the worst system made, but I digress. It was an experiment, and I don't think many people were ready for what Nintendo wanted to do. But despite the fact that it was a consumer flop and had a very small lineup, it still had a couple of really great games that can stand the test of time.

The 32x could be considered one of the worst systems due to the fact that the game quallity was not much better than the Genesis itself, but the 32x never seemed like a console, but more of an expensive add-on (like Sega CD or Jaguar CD).

Overall, the worst system is the Jaguar. It was Atari's last stand, and failed miserablly to make an impact on the industry.

BlueStorm781
06-08-2004, 02:56 AM
I vote for gamecube, there is like one good game on it, and thats..... well none. :hot:
I feel the same way ... about the PS2. Neither are awuful systems (and the Gamecube is far from the worst system of all time). But I find myself playing the Gamecube (and my Xbox) more than my PS2. The only games I really like are the Gran Turimso series, Silent Hill games and Amplitude. I have a hard time finding something that interests me on the PS2.