Selling your carts because of the Virtual Console?

[Reality's Fringe]

It has crossed my mind that I may sell some of my SNES carts after the release of the revolution(this is, of course, based on the contingency that I actually buy a revolution. I will have to weigh the pros and cons of owning such a system against others, in addition to intelligent introspection as to whether or not I will be biased if I purchase the console before the others). I was wondering if anyone else was considering doing the same? There are a few games I cannot bring myself to get rid of (because of this small fanboy-idiot-jerk part of me that I have not yet stamped out of existence), but since most of the "expensive/rare" games are going to be represented, do you think you'll be freeing up some space?

[Ikohn4ever]

i did think about it but I want to see my selection and the prices, I doubt we will see some of the more obscure games. Plus a lot of games are prob in legal limbo over who owns the rights. Like I doubt I will get my Friday the 13th or Jaws on, on the revolution, though I doubt I would buy it anyway.

[botticus]

Yeah, I don't know how many of the games I already own I would buy again on the VC. And I still like having the physical copies of FFIII and BoF and whatnot. There are only a few in addition to those that would probably net me any real cash anyway.

Of course, my NES/SNES collection is relatively small (see my Collection link) so its not as if its really filling up a whole shelf.

Edit: :rofl: Is that a Virtual Boy in your sig?

[TheBlueWizard]

I'm not planning on selling my carts when the Revolution releases. A lot of the titles that I own are RPG's that are NOT Nintendo titles. It will be interesting to see what third party support we see for old games on the Revolution. Final Fantasy games for example. They have PS1 ports of some of them, GBA titles, so who knows what contractual rights there will be for these titles.

Then there is the whole thing about having to buy games again. Until a pricing structure is announced, (with a games list), it will be a wait and see type deal.

TBW

[onikage]

I don't think I'll sell any of my old games. I'd rather just keep what I have and not bother with paying to DL them on the Revolution. The virtual console is a great idea and I would definately consider using it if I didn't already own almost every SNES game and most of the NES games that will likely be available.

[Reality's Fringe]

Well, you damned "Physical Copy Fanboys", what if the games are upgraded/changed (I seem to remember Nintendo saying they were going to add things to a lot of their big titles)? This, in addition to not knowing how long your batteries have left to live (and not having the time/means to change them in regards to the average Joe) could have a big impact.
Eh, I don't know, I guess I'm less of a collector than I used to be. On the upside, if people flood ebay with thier games, you could round out your own collections for cheap

Edit: Botticus, I know you're biased, but the Virtual Boy is a viable console and has the same amount of pros and cons as all other systems...

[botticus]

I don't know who you are anymore.

If they are changed, I will certainly look into rebuying them. Once we see how the VC will really pan out as far as price, selection, ownership, etc, I will make a more informed, objective opinion.

I figure I've kept my carts for the last 10-20 years through GBA remakes and all other sorts of recreations, so no need to give them up now unless some real money is to be made.

[Reality's Fringe]

I don't know who you are anymore.

If they are changed, I will certainly look into rebuying them. Once we see how the VC will really pan out as far as price, selection, ownership, etc, I will make a more informed, objective opinion.

:lol: Now you're getting it. ;)

But it is a question Nintendo is going to have to find a way to answer. How are they going to get the collector's onboard?

[depascal22]

I'm just scared that the Revolution crashes and not only are you out of a system but an entire library. Will Nintendo allow you to download this games again for free if your system crashes?

[daroga]

RF... you're scaring me... bring back Hot Mario... please.... you don't want to make me cry, do you?

Anyway, I'm likely to hold on to my carts. For as great as collection disc / VC is/will be, there's still nothing better than plugging Sonic into that giant Genesis and dlipping the switch, or sliding that grey Mario 3 into the slot and grabbing the as uncomfortable as hell grey rectangle and zoning out for a while ;)

[TheBlueWizard]

:lol: Now you're getting it. ;)

But it is a question Nintendo is going to have to find a way to answer. How are they going to get the collector's onboard?

Here's the secret, Nintendo doesn't care about the collector's. In fact, they don't want the collector's on board.

If the collector's thought now is the time to sell out to get virtual copies, there will be lots of copies on the market of games that they want to sell as a download. They would be much happier if the prices are high for cartridges, so that regular people will be up for the download service.

Even if there was no VC, Nintendo probably doesn't give a rip about collector's. They see NO income from it at this point. They don't make the games or the hardware anymore, so they probably don't wouldn't care at all.

TBW

[SithFran]

I don't really care the for "updating" approach. I like the original Metroid better than Zero Mission. If they enhance graphics or add some other levels, that MAY get me to buy the VC game. But if they make it easier or with different moves, probably not.

Most likely, most of us will keep our systems and just use the VC for what we don't have, like TG-16 games. This way we won't have to go buy another system.

And in a way, isn't Nintendo giving us 'the collectors', the TG-16 games? Who but us would care?

[Chacrana]

I dunno if I'd do that... it obviously depends on what games are available, but I'm also interested in being able to back up my games so that makes or breaks the VC concept for me.

[SMMM]

Here's the secret, Nintendo doesn't care about the collector's. In fact, they don't want the collector's on board.

If the collector's thought now is the time to sell out to get virtual copies, there will be lots of copies on the market of games that they want to sell as a download. They would be much happier if the prices are high for cartridges, so that regular people will be up for the download service.

Even if there was no VC, Nintendo probably doesn't give a rip about collector's. They see NO income from it at this point. They don't make the games or the hardware anymore, so they probably don't wouldn't care at all.

TBW


DAMMIT PEOPLE. There is NO APOSTROPHE IN "Collectors".

[zewone]

No. You know you can play roms on your computer now?

[RAMSTORIA]

No. You know you can play roms on your computer now?

exactly.

[Mookyjooky]

Sold them when I realized when most women find 600 carts around your living room a little lame. Never looked back. Sure theres the one or two emo girls who think playing bubble bobble is a good date... but I'm 25 now, and I like girls in clean panties. I download games on XBL, and I'm sure I'll love the rev...

[urzishra14]

hmm.. well.. i don't play the carts now.. but i mean.. it all depends on a lot of things.. if i'm able to get games i am not rich and famous to afford (read: Earthbound) then yeah i'll go for it.. but i will not pay a lot of money to play classic mario games ( SMB 1-3) as they are easily obtainable and paying more then 2 bucks for them (well i supposed 10 in SMB 2 & 3's case).. if they put like Super Bomberman and all the sequels Japan got, Capcom releases their library, Square Enix does that library.. then maybe.. and if they add online multiplayer for these games.. you bet i'm getting them.

[Chacrana]

No. You know you can play roms on your computer now?

Which is why I see little value in the VC idea unless there's something I'm missing. I already own the games so I'll do whatever I want with them rather than letting Nintendo whore them out to me via the Revo.

[botticus]

Which is why I see little value in the VC idea unless there's something I'm missing. I already own the games so I'll do whatever I want with them rather than letting Nintendo whore them out to me via the Revo.
There's always the possibility that the games may be enhanced (online multiplayer, maybe). Other than that... I'm sure there are millions of people who know nothing about emulation. Not to mention I hate playing Nintendo games on my computer.

[Mookyjooky]

Not to mention I hate playing Nintendo games on my computer.

That and its morally wrong.

[botticus]

That and its morally wrong.
Well, Chacrana implied he emulates games he owns. Outside of that, yeah, its a morality issue. If he hadn't implied such, I would have responded to his "Am I missing something?" with "Morality" ;)

[Stoneage]

DAMMIT PEOPLE. There is NO APOSTROPHE IN "Collectors".
I hear you. But, unfortunately, no one else on the internets here what your saying. Its tru dat.

[Mookyjooky]

Well, Chacrana implied he emulates games he owns. Outside of that, yeah, its a morality issue.

I would seriously doubt he only emulates games he owns, and not to mention... if he didnt build/backup the roms himself, its still illegal. The copywright laws are nowhere near what they were when clinton was in office... Though everyone still uses that "fair backup policy" as a defense...even though that actually isnt still practiced.

[banpeikun]

since most of the "expensive/rare" games are going to be represented, do you think you'll be freeing up some space?which ones are expensive/rare? my favorite games from SNES were:

ff2, chrono trigger, secret of mana, actraiser, super mario world, zelda, ff3, .. that might be about it. so obviously mario and zelda get downloads, but do the others?

[Chacrana]

I would seriously doubt he only emulates games he owns, and not to mention... if he didnt build/backup the roms himself, its still illegal. The copywright laws are nowhere near what they were when clinton was in office... Though everyone still uses that "fair backup policy" as a defense...even though that actually isnt still practiced.

No, I actually do only emulate games I own. There's a reason I'm still looking for stuff like Chrono Trigger and Mario All Stars + World. As far as the whole "you can only backup games yourself other wise it's illegal"... whatever. I feel no moral obligation there.

[paz9x]

I would seriously doubt he only emulates games he owns, and not to mention... if he didnt build/backup the roms himself, its still illegal. The copywright laws are nowhere near what they were when clinton was in office... Though everyone still uses that "fair backup policy" as a defense...even though that actually isnt still practiced.

so we should pay some pencil-dick idiot on ebay $60 to play ff3?
its not like anybody's loosing money.
were not talking about current gen, availible software.

[wageslave]

So are Squaresoft SNES games going to be on the revolution? I have complete copies of all (as far as I know) the Square RPGs for my SNES. I'd probably be to lazy to sell them, though, unless I lost my job or something.

[Kayden]

Would you sell your balls if a sperm bank opened up down the road?

[Reality's Fringe]

Would you sell your balls if a sperm bank opened up down the road?

How much we talking about here?



I don't have a lot of space and, honestly, I don't really play them because I'd have to drag my SNES out and go through all that bullshit. I'll probably end up keeping my favorites (Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Evermore, etc) since the nostalgia makes me happy, and sell the rest.

[Kayden]

Oh... well my SNES is still hooked up. 8-)

[D4rkewolfe]

Sold them when I realized when most women find 600 carts around your living room a little lame. Never looked back. Sure theres the one or two emo girls who think playing bubble bobble is a good date... but I'm 25 now, and I like girls in clean panties. I download games on XBL, and I'm sure I'll love the rev...

LMAO sorry, the clean panties thing just cracked me up.

Honestly, I used to be a collector...until I saw that my systems were given to my cousins who lived in other country, or sold it for cheap to someone I knew to give it to their family in another country (I mean hey...I know how it feels being in a poor country with not much toys and something like an NES or SNES arrives from you parent, it may not be much, but man I loved it when I would get games from my mom).

Anyways little by little I would just sell my game as I was done and get new ones. I did this since I was in 9th grade. That's how I got to play as many games as I did, because I discovered eBay, and had AOL and somehow if you had AOL you didn't need a credit card to register heh, so was selling since then.

Personally if I have games around that will be on the VC...yep, I will definitely sell and get it there. Not to mention the space is nice, and I rather it goes to someone who would play it, than how I have some of my games gathering dust.

Though I've met plenty of girls with clean panties who think a game of anything makes for a fine date :P just had to add that in. Just say no to emo girls with dirty panties

[spooie_redux]

I can't imagine selling my old games. I have no idea how the Virtual Console service will work. Do we "rent" games for a time, or actually buy them to keep? Are they downloaded, or streamed off a server when in use? What happens if the system dies, do we lose it all? These are all risks and uncertanties that would prevent me from parting ways.

Then there are the controls... I want to FEEL the controls as I played them originally, and still don't know what kind of "shell" Nintendo is planning. Then there is the "tweakage" factor, like on MegaMan Anniversary Collection, where they added a few things, and changed the controls and altered the difficulties while CLAIMING it was the original games. I want to play them how I remember them.

So no, I don't, really.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Consider the following of the Revolution's supposed target audience:

People who have stopped gaming.

I submit to you that the Virtual Console may CAUSE these people to re-buy carts long since sold, for old times sake, regardless of whether or not they'll actually play them

[Blind the Thief]

Not to mention I hate playing Nintendo games on my computer.

I couldn't agree more. Obviously the price for these downloads needs to be low, but it wasn't until I bought the Megaman Anniversary Collection that it really hit me: I'm enjoying this because I can finally see Megaman 2 on my TV again.

Something about that fact really hit me; it just feels right to play them on the television.

That, and I've always been a console gamer, and detest using a keyboard for playing NES games.

[Nephilim]

Collectors like me who have boxes of games labeled "Firsts" and "Spares" are not the target of the VC.

As said above, hordes of middle aged people are going to see that they can download Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid, or Mario All Stars and go nuts. Not to mention play the newer games that no one else will have.

[neudog]

I would not trade my carts in for anything. The VC is a nice feature and hopefully I will be able to play some titles I never got my hands on, but there will always be room on my shelves for Nintendo Cartridges:)

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