View Full Version : Should the Original Xbox be redesigned?
bingbangboom
04-15-2006, 02:14 PM
One thing i do not get is why Microsoft has abanodned its own console so quickly. Nintendo and Sony have both shown previous consoles can not only sell but make money. I mean the PSOne has just now stopped being manufactured.
Gameboy Advance is still selling.
Microsoft should redesign the Xbox into a smaller sleeker system and gear it for a family market. I mean the revolution is more powerful than the Xbox and it is so tiny compaired.
Just seems like such a waste and now that market will not grow at all. Just doesn't make sense. I know they want people to get the 360 and people will. Your main buyers of the 360 are people that have the original Xbox.
SteveMcQ
04-15-2006, 02:19 PM
I'd buy another one if they made it a smaller form factor.
rodeojones903
04-15-2006, 02:26 PM
I mean the revolution is more powerful than the Xbox and it is so tiny compaired.
Of course it is, but that is not what is going to be competing directly with the revolution.
bingbangboom
04-15-2006, 02:48 PM
All I was saying is the technology is there to shrink the original X-Box just like it was done with the PS1, PS2 and even NES, GBA and other systems. Smaller would be better and remarketed. Maybe even calling it like "X-Box Nano" or somethign similar. Smaller with the same features. Maybe even an updated hud system on the main menu.
I just think it is a waste of a system with so many games.
Mattte
04-15-2006, 02:48 PM
Of course it is, but the that is not what is going to be competing directly with the revolution.
I think he was just trying to say if the Revolution can be that small (although power source is external and no hard drive is in Revo) why can't a redesigned Xbox.
Gothic Walrus
04-15-2006, 02:54 PM
All I was saying is the technology is there to shrink the original X-Box just like it was done with the PS1, PS2 and even NES, GBA and other systems. Smaller would be better and remarketed. Maybe even calling it like "X-Box Nano" or somethign similar. Smaller with the same features. Maybe even an updated hud system on the main menu.
I just think it is a waste of a system with so many games.
Xbox Nano?
That brings to mind iPod and Apple associations. There's no way Microsoft could ever do THAT. ;)
shrike4242
04-15-2006, 04:15 PM
Microsoft doesn't have any more license rights to the Xbox from Nvidia, so they can't do it.
In any case, their efforts are focused on the 360, and they're not normally a company to be looking back.
dmes65
04-15-2006, 04:26 PM
One thing i do not get is why Microsoft has abanodned its own console so quickly. Nintendo and Sony have both shown previous consoles can not only sell but make money. I mean the PSOne has just now stopped being manufactured.
Gameboy Advance is still selling.
Microsoft should redesign the Xbox into a smaller sleeker system and gear it for a family market. I mean the revolution is more powerful than the Xbox and it is so tiny compaired.
Just seems like such a waste and now that market will not grow at all. Just doesn't make sense. I know they want people to get the 360 and people will. Your main buyers of the 360 are people that have the original Xbox.
I believe the original xbox still has more power than the Rev.
mbstuff
04-15-2006, 04:39 PM
Microsoft doesn't have any more license rights to the Xbox from Nvidia, so they can't do it.
In any case, their efforts are focused on the 360, and they're not normally a company to be looking back.
Not that I think a new Xbox design is a good idea, but it's odd that Microsoft didn't negotiate complete ownership to everything that was in the Xbox. Why does Nvidia have all these licensing rights that causes all sorts of problems?
FriskyTanuki
04-15-2006, 05:53 PM
Not that I think a new Xbox design is a good idea, but it's odd that Microsoft didn't negotiate complete ownership to everything that was in the Xbox. Why does Nvidia have all these licensing rights that causes all sorts of problems?
Because Microsoft used other company's parts to put in the Xbox, so they can't really redesign it. Nintendo and Sony can redesign their systems all they want because they own everything in their systems themselves.
daroga
04-15-2006, 06:03 PM
A lot of it depends on Microsoft's motives too. The Xbox wasn't meant to be so much a tremendous benefit to MS as it was a step in that direction. Get some brand recognition and move on to better things. That's just what they've done. They're more or less trying to cut their losses and move onto building up their name with bigger and better things, ala the 360.
That being said, as a consumer I very much respect Sony and Nintendo's practice in these things. I have confidence that since I don't have a PS2, I'll still be able to get one down the road, new, and cheap and play the games I missed when everything's practically free vs. the Xbox which I wouldn't expect to see in stores after this summer.
Aleryn
04-15-2006, 06:08 PM
Maybe cuz theres more graphic whores in the XBox camp than say, the PS2 camp. And that there just isn't as much interest in aging hardware. Just how it seems to me.
adamsappel
04-15-2006, 06:10 PM
I believe the original xbox still has more power than the Rev.
No.
DT778
04-15-2006, 09:18 PM
i just wish the xbox was flat on top so that can stack my pstwo on top of it.
the contract MS signed with Nvidia was really bad. There is no way they will make any more xbox.
menikmati
04-16-2006, 06:58 AM
i just wish the xbox was flat on top so that can stack my pstwo on top of it.
I do that, sort of. It does a little balancing act on the convex part of it on the Xbox jewel.
mbstuff
04-16-2006, 07:51 AM
the contract MS signed with Nvidia was really bad. There is no way they will make any more xbox.
That's what I'm saying. Who would negotiate such a bad contract? Pay Nvidia ridiculous amounts of money and then not even own full rights to a technology that's now old?
RAMSTORIA
04-16-2006, 08:26 AM
its too bad, i think they would sell very well
Spoon_si
04-16-2006, 09:20 AM
I would buy another 1, some then I can store my Halo edition xbox..
howlinmad
04-16-2006, 11:44 AM
Maybe cuz theres more graphic whores in the XBox camp than say, the PS2 camp. And that there just isn't as much interest in aging hardware. Just how it seems to me.
And there's more Sony whores, who will buy anything Sony, in the Sony camp, so I'd say that makes it even. :)
Look for the redesigned re-re-re-designed PS2 Summer 2008.
=P
Seriously though, while a smaller footprint Xbox would be cool, I just don't see it happening. But they could pull a fast one.
I just don't see it because of NVIDIA for one, as has been pointed out.
That's what I'm saying. Who would negotiate such a bad contract? Pay Nvidia ridiculous amounts of money and then not even own full rights to a technology that's now old?
probably because this was their first time making such a hardware and they didnt do their homework. They learned their lession and have a contract similar to Nintendo and Sony for X360.
Aleryn
04-16-2006, 01:50 PM
And there's more Sony whores, who will buy anything Sony, in the Sony camp, so I'd say that makes it even. :)
Look for the redesigned re-re-re-designed PS2 Summer 2008.
=P
Seriously though, while a smaller footprint Xbox would be cool, I just don't see it happening. But they could pull a fast one.
I just don't see it because of NVIDIA for one, as has been pointed out.
Good point on everyone about the NVIDIA contract and how BAD it is. Better MS put any money they would towards an XBox redesign, and apply it to the backwards compatibility effort on the 360.
wbc1228
04-16-2006, 02:22 PM
probably because this was their first time making such a hardware and they didnt do their homework. They learned their lession and have a contract similar to Nintendo and Sony for X360.
Weird, Microsoft would make a silly mistake like that. With a gazillion lawyers/advisors under their belt, you would think that MS would be smarter than that (Did they not forsee the future?). I'm guessing if MS really wanted to, they could of just paid Nvida to buyout the contract (or even the company themselves if MS wanted to with all that cash, but then ATI is going to be really pissed).
FriskyTanuki
04-16-2006, 07:51 PM
i just wish the xbox was flat on top so that can stack my pstwo on top of it.
It's not that curved on top that you can't set it on top. I've had both my fat PS2 and PStwo on it and they were just fine. As long as you're not pulling on the cord, it'll stay on there.
Puffa469
04-18-2006, 11:00 AM
Wasnt the Xbox designed with alot of 'off the shelf' parts? The reason the Cube, and PStwo can be soo small is that they can redesign the proprietary chips and componets to be smaller and smaller. Multiple chips can be combined into a single chip, etc.
The Xbox is basically a motherboard with a vid card in an agp slot right? It'd be kinda hard to shrink all that stuff down. They could make it like one of those shuttle pc's probably, but theyre not much smaller than an xbox, just different dimensions
Just another reason on top of the Nvidia license issue.