Boob Physics: How Gaming 'Bounced' Forward

[RelentlessRolento]

http://www.clubskill.com/gfx/newslines/brst.jpg

Much to long anticipation (by me at least), here is the article I wrote that takes a look at how breast physics have played their part in gaming. Feedback is welcome. Thx to all the help!

http://www.clubskill.com/Game_Specials/3514/Boob%20Physics













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Much like my research on death ( http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92124 ) I'm starting research for another article I hope to do for http://www.ClubSkill.com

This time I'm looking for all games that have implimented boob physics into their game. Every singel game that comes to your mind would ba a huge help... I know it may sound a bit tasteless for me to do an article on such a thing, but I am trying to cover stuff that most game sites never go over. I'll post a few that I know from memory:

Dead or Alive
Dead or Alive 2
Dead or Alive Ultimate
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball
Rumble Roses
Rumble Roses XX
Tekken 5
Project Justice
Rival Schools
Soul Edge
Soul Calibur
Soul Calibur 2
Soul Calibur 3
King of Fighters (all games that feature Mai)
Rumble Fish
Tomb Raider Dark Angel
Tomb Raider Legends
Metal Gear Ac!d 2


... I know there's a ton more so any help would be superb.

[hiccupleftovers]

Soul Calibur series (i.e. 1-3)
Technically Metroid series.

[Diiz]

Does the new Tomb Raider have bouncing boobies?

[RelentlessRolento]

Does the new Tomb Raider have bouncing boobies?

i posted it up on my list... it's subtle from what I've seen.

[SMMM]

Cammy's boobs bounced in SF2, iirc. Oh, and don't forget Bloody Roar.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9315/cammyssf2stance15jh.gif

[SilverPaw750]

Cammy's boobs bounced in SF2, iirc. Oh, and don't forget Bloody Roar.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9315/cammyssf2stance15jh.gif

That's not physics, that's just a 2D sprite.

Don't forget the Mortal Kombat series! And all the weird H-Games that come out of Japan!

[megaseadramon]

Bloodrayne had ridiculous amount of jiggle just by turning. I think the bloody roar games. Metroid has no jiggle factor. Devil may cry, Ninja gaiden (big time). thats all I can think of now.

[SMMM]

That's not physics, that's just a 2D sprite.

Don't forget the Mortal Kombat series! And all the weird H-Games that come out of Japan!

Ok, I'm confused at what the hell you are guys are looking for then.

[Apossum]

Killer Instinct-- B.Orchid's death move with boobs

[RelentlessRolento]

Ok, I'm confused at what the hell you are guys are looking for then.

anything related to boob movement. Though it's not true boob physics, it's what started it.

I was also wondering if anyone had a basic mathematical physics equation on boob physiscs... I know it sounds insane, but I'm also covering the technical side of boobs in games.

[AshesofWake]

:rofl:

[AlbinoNinja]

you have the greatest article ideas ever...

[basketkase543]

Killer Instinct-- B.Orchid's death move with boobs

And Maya from KI2 also.

Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater had some physics on Eva's model.

I'm enoying your article ideas so far BTW. Let us know when the articles are finished.

Do you have a link to the articles you've already done for clubskill?

[RelentlessRolento]

:rofl:

I don't blame you for reacting that way, it's expected on this type of subject :roll:

[Foolman]

G4's Icon show did an episode on this. Surprisingly, it was very interesting and taken very seriously. Sorry, but I don't have anything to add to your list.

[RelentlessRolento]

G4's Icon show did an episode on this. Surprisingly, it was very interesting and taken very seriously. Sorry, but I don't have anything to add to your list.

comments are more than welcome... any info or opinions are welcome as well.

[SpazX]

Well to properly research the subject you should probably observe real boobs bouncing and compare (that's probably what the programmers did anyway...).

I'd imagine they already had some rubber physics and kind of worked with that, made it a little more fluid. I dunno, something like that.

[swetooth9]

hah, that's the first thing i noticed about MGA2, i was watching takiyama's face, then her boobs started moving (even when practically still, haha)

weird, cool reserach topic though

[Mattte]

It'd be interesting to know which was the first game with them.

[getmeoutofjoliet]

I remember reading that they could have added another character in one of the early King Of Fighter games, but instead they used the available space to make the famous bouncing boobs of Mai


According to the Wiki, mai was the first to have bouncing breasts.

[SilverPaw750]

Ok, I'm confused at what the hell you are guys are looking for then.
Actual boob values written into the physics engine.

[donssword]

An odd little Koei PS1 magic fighter had boob physics along with terrible voice over work -- Destrega.

[RelentlessRolento]

According to the Wiki, mai was the first to have bouncing breasts.

From my knowlage, I think that holds true.

[Kendal]

I think with your article, you should include a video of all the bouncing boobs in question. I mean you have to show your work in math?

[Ebraum]

I may be mistaken but I believe the "Ready to Rumble" games had a little bouncy action. Also "Outlaw Tennis".

[KingDox]

Aggressive Inline has boob physics. Really bad physics too. But it was still a good game as long as you played as the dudes.

[RelentlessRolento]

Aggressive Inline has boob physics. Really bad physics too. But it was still a good game as long as you played as the dudes.

and the funny thing is that it was developed by the same people who made BMX XXX.

I'll think about the video, but it may be too damn distracting >_<

[ITDEFX]

this is the most redicuious thread i have ever replied to lol.

[RelentlessRolento]

I will point out that it seems the one team that has had the most experience with these types of physics has to be Team Ninja.

I beleive that anime had a huge influence on this happening. Alot of animes tend to pull stuff off like this, so it naturally transitioned into 2d fighters (both anime and 2d fighters heavily use animated characters), and moved into 3d.

[Apossum]

I will point out that it seems the one team that has had the most experience with these types of physics has to be Team Ninja.

I beleive that anime had a huge influence on this happening. Alot of animes tend to pull stuff off like this, so it naturally transitioned into 2d fighters (both anime and 2d fighters heavily use animated characters), and moved into 3d.


Boob physics sold DoA 1. and DoA 1 saved Tecmo (it was named "Dead or Alive" because the company had its future completely staked on it.) Thus, boob physics saved Tecmo :)

can't forget the obligatory gif:
http://www.clanpop.org/images/kasumi.gif

[megaseadramon]

God bless boob physics!

[Rig]

Didn't one (or many of) the Sims games have bouncing breasts? I am not certain, because I never cared for the series; I've only seen people playing it. Might be wrong.

[epobirs]

The capital punishment scene in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life would serve as a good real-world reference.

[Kayden]

Lineage II.

The female dark elves have huge boobs. They bend over when running and the boobs bounce up and down and slap off of eachother... ...I was also doing simular research... :oops:

[2poor]

World of Warcraft?

[Chacrana]

Boob physics sold DoA 1. and DoA 1 saved Tecmo (it was named "Dead or Alive" because the company had its future completely staked on it.) Thus, boob physics saved Tecmo :)

can't forget the obligatory gif:
http://www.clanpop.org/images/kasumi.gif


That's a logical fallacy. Boob physics saved everyone.

[Kayden]

World of Warcraft?

Wood elf breasts heave while breathing, but I don't think they bounce.

[nakanenui]

you should watch the burn up w series. its not that great, but they implemented the interesting boob counter (as in how many times a pair of boobies bounces throughout the episode). nothing beats zzz sized breasts on a small framed anime wench.

[opportunity777]

Blood Rayne

I love boob physics! I wouldn't think they are very hard to do, considering if you can program how to move a character's arms or legs, it should be the same type of issue. I wonder if they bring in women with big boobs and have them run in place and stuff and see how much their titties jiggle. :drool:

I want that job :)

[Chacrana]

If we went into anime, I could name approximately 8 trillion shows that have boob physics.

[Apossum]

That's a logical fallacy. Boob physics saved everyone.


they were really on the brink of going under before doa1 came out, but I see what you're saying.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Lots of game have BASIC boob physics. That is to say, Boobs will at some point, move.

I think Shadow Hearts 2 had a LITTLE bit of movement.

[RelentlessRolento]

they were really on the brink of going under before doa1 came out, but I see what you're saying.

If anyone needs proof on what Apossom is saying, unlock the movies in DoA Ultimate and watch the behind the scenes G4 video.

[Blind the Thief]

I'd like to suggest Jessica from Dragon Quest VIII. I could watch those things for hours.

[radjago]

anything related to boob movement. Though it's not true boob physics, it's what started it.

I was also wondering if anyone had a basic mathematical physics equation on boob physiscs... I know it sounds insane, but I'm also covering the technical side of boobs in games.
I'm no game programmer, but making an educated guess as a person with a background in physics, they probably model them as pendula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum) or some other type of oscillators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator) (springs) with damping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping). To model them properly requires use of differential equations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_equations).

I'm sure many developers cheat by either simplifying and tweaking the physics code until they look "good enough" or forgoing physics altogether and simply animating the models instead of relying on real-time caluculations. Employing a middleware physics engine like Havok is another option.

[RelentlessRolento]

As a heads up, I'm currently getting this article put together. I'll post the link as soon as it's done.

[2poor]

Battle Arena Toshiden(sp) had titty physics I think.

[Photomotoz]

TombRaider : Legend. Nearly any new 3d game with a female will have some sort of "boob physics".

[RelentlessRolento]

Article is up! check OP!

http://www.clubskill.com/Game_Specials/3508/Boob%20Physics

[AshesofWake]

Wood elf breasts heave while breathing, but I don't think they bounce.


they bounce when you run. so do the undead females.

[crazytalkx]

Read the article, interesting read ahaha. Wish there could've been some animateddd pictures :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

Read the article, interesting read ahaha. Wish there could've been some animateddd pictures :lol:


I didn't want it to come off too offensive. I tried to make it a good read for both guys and gals... if I do a follow up, I'll try to get some "jiggly"

[Backlash]

Hmm the link doesn't work for me. A page comes up but there's no article :(

[RelentlessRolento]

It's been taken down due to some minro site problems... I'll post the link again once we get some bugs fixed out.

[RelentlessRolento]

If you want to read the, the article is up. Any feedback is welcomed.

http://www.clubskill.com/Game_Specials/3514/Boob%20Physics

[Gaming-Module]

You forgot about the pioneer of women objectification that launched the PS1 into millions of teenager's bedrooms.

Battle Arena Toshinden

I can't remember if it was BAT2 or BAT3, but all I remember about those games and that entire series were the ridiculous undulating boobies and the chick with the dominatrix outfit and the whip.

[megaseadramon]

Just thought I would mention your that your article is on the front page of Kotaku. Big boobs and all.

[radjago]

Congrats on being linked on Kotaku (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/breasts/mammarial-musing-boobs-as-driving-force-in-games-development-176408.php).

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Congrats on being linked on Kotaku (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/breasts/mammarial-musing-boobs-as-driving-force-in-games-development-176408.php).

I just saw that as well. Nice job RR!

[RelentlessRolento]

wow.. :lol: sweet. Didn't realize breasts were so important ;)

[radjago]

wow.. :lol: sweet. Didn't realize breasts were so important ;)
Breasts are paramount.

Your article was linked in this editorial about the ESRB re-rating Oblivion too.

http://www.xxgamers.com/content/view/31/41/

[Apossum]

Great article Rolento! :)

[RelentlessRolento]

Great article Rolento! :)


Thx. the funny thing that kotaku said was that "someone must have done some late night research", which oddly came to be true... I think I stayed up till 4am getting the article finished.