Sony E3 Press Conference Discussion - Price & Date Revealed!

[Grave_Addiction]

Wow, thats impressive.

[Moxio]

Tiger sounds like an idiot.

[Purkeynator]

what are they showing? I am still dead

[spoo]

Just like Hot Shots taunts, OMG!!

[alpo845]

tiger woods demo impressed me

[evilmax17]

Too all dead: Exit and reopen

[bmulligan]

oooh, panning around a prerendered tiger woods bot. Really impressive.

[Purkeynator]

Too all dead: Exit and reopen

tried about 20 times

[gigan54]

lol one guy clapped for that man from EA

[ryanbph]

thats the first I had heard of army of 2, and hopefully the new medal of honor game plays as good as it looks

[guyver2077]

nba looked nice..lets hope they fix dome things..

i like the 360 version but lack of features and framerate dips hurt

[Purkeynator]

back in after closing browser, thanks

[marten]

Finally, Square-Enix...

[Moxio]

Wewt Square-time!

[TC]

I'd pay to see a video of the crowds faces with the audio. I bet the reactions would be priceless.

[bmulligan]

sorry, but mixing all of this CGI and littering it with gameplay footage kinda pisses me off.

[ryanbph]

final fantasy 13, when is 12 coming out?

[Moxio]

...Okay. FFXIII looked like crap.

[Purkeynator]

coming soon. the end of the world in final fantasy 13

[guyver2077]

that will sell big..

here comes metal

[slimpip]

Mgs4! Yes!

[mtxbass1]

where is warhawk?

[spoo]

Damn now I have to spend what Sony charges for FFXIII

[GizmoGC]

Ugh. Still can't get a decent feed.

[ryanbph]

anyone elses mg 4 video fucked up

[Kaijufan]

My Mg4 video is working fine.

[guyver2077]

o shit otacon

[Moxio]

Yeeeyyyy MGS4 saves the day!

[mtxbass1]

WTF...WHY ARE THEY CUTTING OUT just when you want to read the screen!

[whoknows]

Mgs4 Holy Shit!! I Want Now!!!

[guyver2077]

i hate this guy


ooo secret!!!

[Purkeynator]

tell us some real shit ken

[evilmax17]

MGS4 actually looked cool. No gameplay, but you know.

[Moxio]

Ken... secret... *soils pants*

[Grave_Addiction]

here it comes!

[Kaijufan]

Why did they zoom out so we couldn't see the subtitles?

[GizmoGC]

Pass. I'll DL the video later tonight. This is unwatchable. I'm still waiting for some 'amazing' news. So far, nothing.

[Purkeynator]

a silver dual shock 3 ! brilliant!

[guyver2077]

why the fuk is he smiling....same shit!!


ok sumthin new

[mtxbass1]

if that controller dances...i'm leaving.

[evilmax17]

They Ripped Off Nintendo!

[Reality's Fringe]

Yes, I knew it
MOTION SENSING!

[marten]

Well now...the controller is gyroscopic...that could be interesting...

[GizmoGC]

New button!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 Looks just like the 360's....

[Purkeynator]

the controller senses movement? Genious ! uh done already

[Kaijufan]

Sony rips off Nintendo again.

[slimpip]

These cameramen are fantastic.

[Vinny]

This press conference sucks... nothing exciting at all besides games we've already seen. Besides Lair and that one game from Sony's London studio, I'm not all too impressed.

But it's not over yet, they're probably saving the goodies for last... hopefully.

[evanft]

Fucking A, man.

[alpo845]

those mother fuckers

[daphatty]

Show the fucking video AND the controller at the same time damnit!!

[mmn]

Holy shit....so they combined Nintendo's ideas and Microsoft's ideas and came along with nothing of their own. Unbelieveable.

[Purkeynator]

steal from the other guy yay go sony!

[Moxio]

Um... WHAT was the secret? Some ability to hold a controller???

[Grave_Addiction]

WTF was that all about?

[alpo845]

i am seriously so mad

[GizmoGC]

Ripping off Nintendo? No...you don't say...

[whoknows]

Motion detection Dual Shock? Sweet, and it doesnt look like a tv controller!1!

[Purkeynator]

sony you wasted 2 hours of my life and I want them back

[mtxbass1]

wow. now you can look RETARDED just like this guy!

[alpo845]

if i was nintendo, id be soooooooooooooo pissed

[guyver2077]

ummmm

[Grave_Addiction]

He can't even fly straight.

[Dr Mario Kart]

the functionality will be limited. 2 handed approach, no sensor bar. Its a good addition, but it cant approach what Nintendo will do. You cant use it as a sword.

[TC]

So they are going to rip off LIVE & the Wii in the same press conference. Impressive shit.

[sonicfreak5]

kirby tilt n tumble

[spoo]

WTF Wiihawk?

[GizmoGC]

Sony laughed at Nintendo's controller...yet they steal another idea...again. Please let Sony die.

[Moxio]

The more I watch that guy move his body to pilot the plane, the more I hate Sony.

[Reality's Fringe]

This is so beautiful.

[Link127]

Holy shit....so they combined Nintendo's ideas and Microsoft's ideas and came along with nothing of their own. Unbelieveable.


QFT

[Purkeynator]

gay

[alpo845]

seriously, nintendo is screwed

[evanft]

This fucking sucked.

[Vinny]

Looks like I'm behind you guys by a quite a bit...

Surprise, surprise... Sony copies Nintendo's idea. Funny how they never considered Nintendo a rival.:roll:

[Purkeynator]

coming next year from sony the X-Cube 360

[Grave_Addiction]

I actually feel sorry for Nintendo. They said they didn't want to show their controller because others would copy it. But they did, and look what fucking happened.

[Moxio]

Yes Detailz!

[spoo]

20GB lies,

[mtxbass1]

holy shit 499/599!

[Moxio]

$599???


*dies*

[evanft]

$500, fuck you.

[Purkeynator]

500 I knew it

[Grave_Addiction]

$600!!!! Omfg!!!

[TC]

seriously, nintendo is screwed

They just validated the Wii.

[ryanbph]

why it didn't look like fun, as the guy was all over the place and he controlled the plane shitty, I am suprised people are upset on sony stealing nintendo's plan. Like no one else was going to take that.

[whoknows]

Holy shit....so they combined Nintendo's ideas and Microsoft's ideas and came along with nothing of their own. Unbelieveable.
What is Microsofts idea? I just want to clarify.

[guyver2077]

price!!!



i thought they said only one package


lmao....microsoft has a chance!!!!!

[Kaijufan]

2 SKUs. Where did they get that idea?

[evilmax17]

Wooooooooph. $499 for the CHEAP ONE. $599 for the REAL ONE.

WOW!

[daphatty]

HOLY SHIT!!!

$499 and $599?!?!?!?!

[slimpip]

Yea right. Fuck PS3.

[daphatty]

HOLY SHIT!!!

$499 and $599?!?!?!?!

[GizmoGC]

Just wait till the Sony fanboys come around....Ugh.

They bashed the Wii controller so much...and not look at the PS3 controller.

They bashed the 360....and now look at the PS3 controller.

They bashed the N-Gage....and now, wait, nevermind. Well, unless Son announced the controller can be used as a phone...wouldn't be surprised.

[gamerx0]

$499 wtf!

[ryanbph]

that is fucking pricey for the 20gb one....I was hoping to hear some exclusive deals with companys...I know that they got tekken and virtual fighter, but I am a little shocked they couldn't pull that out of there bag of tricks

[mmn]

Expect to see a $250 360 by then, so MS can brag about how you can own one for half the cost of the PS3.

[Grave_Addiction]

Take me off the list.

Ill have to sell my youngest daughter to afford one.

[guyver2077]

cmon microsoft,,,, take em out!!!

[Radioactive_Man]

Rofl At The Price

[GizmoGC]

$600?

Excuse me a moment.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Purkeynator]

The PS4 will cost your soul

[whoknows]

$499? I'll pay it, its not that unreasonable.

[Grave_Addiction]

seriously, nintendo is screwed

With that price, I dont think so.

[mackaikai]

499....affordable for early-adapters

now if Wii is 199 and maybe a small price drop on 360, damn

this next-gen war is fun!

[TC]

Sweet I might be able to fetch $1400 for the premium on ebay!!!!

[evilmax17]

So who's up for $600 without a pack-in game?

[mmn]

What is Microsofts idea? I just want to clarify.

They were the first to come along with a "guide" button and nobody in the current gen is using triggers like they are.

[Moxio]

:rofl: at the ending song. Cheesy Chemical Brothers, oh you ;)

[CaptPete]

Holy crap! I guess that I was figuring that it would be something like that, but whoa!

Is the only difference between the $499 and $599 machines the size of the hard drive? (ie. 40GB?) My stream cut out there for a bit.

I do like that they completely backpedaled on the controller design though...I was hoping that they would do a little something to the controller's shape.., Bah.

[Grave_Addiction]

Sony is fucked.

[evilmax17]

Quick, who has the "price-is-right" losing sound effect?

$600

Wow wow wowowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[My Name Is BoB]

Sweet I might be able to fetch $1400 for the premium on ebay!!!!

That's the first thing I thought too.

[evanft]

Dude, you KNOW MS is gonna drop the price $100.

[Kaijufan]

I'm not getting a PS3 until they drop the price of the good one to $400, if I get one at all.

[Purkeynator]

is the hard drive upgradeable if you get the 20 gig?

[GizmoGC]

Im still shocked. Sony scoffed at the 360 launch...and now Sony pitches it $200 more!

[whoknows]

They were the first to come along with a "guide" button and nobody in the current gen is using triggers like they are.
Dreamcast can be counted as this gen...it just died early and it did have the triggers first.

[I AM WILLIAM H. MACY]

Well, that's it, PS3 is done for.

360-quality graphics, less than 360 quality games, total ripoff of 360 and Wii controller, total ripoff of XBLM, and on top of that, $600.

I'm glad I chose Microsoft this time around.

Sony, RIP.

[daphatty]

Sony is fucked.

Agreed.

[guyver2077]

well im just glad that smackdown is coming to xbox so i dont have to shell out for this thing at launch!!!

for anyone in the blueray market thought.. it might seem reasonable

[orphicblue]

How much do you think they paid Squeenix off to put FFXIII on the fucking Foreman Copycat Grillorama?

[evanft]

Well, that's it, PS3 is done for.

360-quality graphics, less than 360 quality games, total ripoff of 360 and Wii controller, total ripoff of XBLM, and on top of that, $600.

I'm glad I chose Microsoft this time around.

Sony, RIP.

QFT.

[CAG 79]

$600 is outrageous. That's not even including any games or accesories.

[GizmoGC]

No PS3 for me at launch. No PS3 for atleast 2 years. Not like im missing anything at all.

Wii = Will wait 2 days outside of Best Buy

[radjago]

Dude, you KNOW MS is gonna drop the price $100.
With prices like that, MS has no incentive to drop prices.

[TC]

Oh wait remember you get a blue-ray player out of this LOL

[Zoglog]

not a bad price for a blu ray player and a game console in november. You people forget bluray players are 999 now and just came out.

[Professor Oreo]

worst conference ever.

[KaneRobot]

Agreed.

They're overestimating their appeal. The first batch will sell out, but it won't last.

[DomLando]

Sony is the worst company ever. Hands down.

[sonicfreak5]

bought a PS2 and PS1 and PSP at launch sorry im not ready to shell out $600 for a system.... $400 tops i will enjoy my 360 for the next 2 years!

[orphicblue]

Honestly, what market are they targeting with that price? Are they just getting it out there as a gimmick now so that in 3-4 years it will be feasibly priced?

[ArthurDigbySellers]

The feed died on me so I didn't actually get the pricing details. Can someone sum up what you get for $500 and $600?

[godhatesjustyou]

now, 14 hours and 38 minutes til Nintendo..

[evanft]

With prices like that, MS has no incentive to drop prices.

Dropping the price would make PS3 seem even more expensive by comparison and drive down demand for it even more.

Oh, and everyone go to ps3forums.com to check out some sad sony fanboys, like this one:

Guys.....I love sony.
I am absolutely wowed and mezmorized by what the ps3 has to offer. The controller is revolutionary, the tech is revolutionary, the design is revolutionary. The graphics far surpass anything i have witnessed thus far from anything. And obviously, the games shown, like Resistence: Fall Of Man, show us that Killzone is so possible, and that Sony is delivering on what they promised. I love sony....

[TC]

That's the first thing I thought too.

Great minds.......Shit that thing could pay for all my Xmas gifts and I can buy myself a Wii!!!!! Thanks Sony!!

[Apossum]

The feed died on me so I didn't actually get the pricing details. Can someone sum up what you get for $500 and $600?

core = $500

premium = $600


but damn, that MGS 4 trailer was fucking awesome. I need that game.

[guessed]

I remember when 40GB of hard disk space was worth $100, but it wasn't this year. Is that really the only difference between the two versions? If so, that's insane.

[SilverPaw750]

All I have to say is $500? $600?! Are you KIDDING ME?

[Purkeynator]

Quick, who has the "price-is-right" losing sound effect?

$600

Wow wow wowowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


I believe this works http://darthshowcase.ytmnd.com/

[ArthurDigbySellers]

core = $500

premium = $600

I got that from the posts, but what is different b/t the two. Just the HD size?

[GizmoGC]

Blu Ray = Dead
HD-DVD = Winner

[Professor Oreo]

Yeah it may cost less than a stand alone bluray player but who needs a standalone bluray palyer at launch. $1000, plus 30 bucks a disk? No way buddy.

[mackaikai]

lol, glad that i did my freepay PS3 =o

[Kaijufan]

I won't be all that sad if Sony goes bankrupt because of the PS3.

The only PS3 exclusive series I'm really looking forward to is Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy, and FFXIII looks kinda stupid (I hate futuristic FF games).


I think I'll be happy with a Wii and a 360.

[Apossum]

I got that from the posts, but what is different b/t the two. Just the HD size?

as far as we know.

[JSweeney]

What would Sony do without Nintendo? :)
(Or Microsoft, for that matter?) :)

[TC]

not a bad price for a blu ray player and a game console in november.

Yeah those $10 target dvd's I get are gonna look great on blue-ray for only $600 bucks more. Especially after I drop another $3000 on a tv that makes them look nice.

[coolsteel]

I loved Warhawk on the psone and have really been hoping for some kind of sequal but let me say the guy looked completely retarded playing it with that controller , the fact that he couldn't even land it straight really makes me think they should give these people a test run if they want to showcase a controller feature.

[RelentlessRolento]

time to start saving money... don't forget to add the cost of the Wii >_< hope its cheap!

[Zoglog]

I think i'll prob go for the 20GB one. Honestly I don't know why people expected it to be 400. Blu ray players cost 999 currently. This one has that, cell processor, and the RSX. You got to be kidding me if you were honestly thinking (even at cost subsidizing) that they were going to offer it for less.

From a personal standpoint it is not that expensive for a Blu ray player. I have a 1080p LCD TV so I'm excited that I can get a bluray player in november without having to shell out 800 bucks.

also in comparison DVDs are 480i resolution, you can upconvert them but the quality is extremely subpar compared to 1080p video. I've seen some bluray discs already go for 21 bucks. In time it will drop to the price of DVDs. I think sony are bastards but I think they're gonna win this format war.

[jer7583]

LOL. I love it. $500!

I plan on getting on in 2010.

[Namelessloser]

i plan on buying a 360 and a Wii. Sony absolutely disgusted me. I will wait until its about 200 bucks cheaper when its on the clearance racks at Circuit city :)

[XxFuRy2Xx]

Clearly Sony isn't aiming for the folks here at CHEAPASSGAMER. You may not want to shell out $500 or $600, but plenty of others will.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

as far as we know.

OMFG. I cannot believe the prices. Hell I can't believe the dual SKU after all the shit that MSoft caught for doing it. But what really pisses me off is them tacking on a motion sensing controller. Those unoriginal fucks.

My PS2 library is by far the most extensive of the consoles I own, but hell if I am going with Sony this gen. It will be years before I buy a PS3. I may pick up a PS3 just to Ebay that fucker out of spite.

[graf1k]

Sony just prices themselves out of my range of what I'm willing to pay. $400 for the 360 was pushing it for me, but I'd do it again for a PS3 with a hard drive and for MGS4. The Blu Ray player doesn't mean shit to me. Oh well.

[Reality's Fringe]

Well, at least they're not going for some dumb controller gimmick like the Wii ...wait a second...

[Darkside Hazuki]

They're overestimating their appeal. The first batch will sell out, but it won't last.

Agreed. Your patience will be rewarded in hundreds of dollars.

[whoknows]

Those of you who say Sony is in trouble are way off. The PS3 will sell, and it will sell like crazy whether you like it or not. With all of its exclusive games there is no way it will fail.

[Apossum]

all the half ass features and that weird music service are all just awful.....but the mgs 4 trailer was sooooooooooooooo good :)

[GizmoGC]

Those of you who say Sony is in trouble are way off. The PS3 will sell, and it will sell like crazy whether you like it or not. With all of its exclusive games there is no way it will fail.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[crazytalkx]

Considering it costs $500-600, I lack an HDTV, and it blalantly ripped off the Wii, no thanks.

[Apossum]

he's right. PS2 has sold 100 million consoles world wide...someone remind me how much the cube and xbox sold. it'll take another gen or two to knock em out.

[CaptPete]

Blu Ray = Dead
HD-DVD = Winner

Just think about it.

Microsoft hasn't announced how much their HD-DVD add-on will cost yet, have they?

If it's just a standard USB HD-DVD drive (more or less), they won't be able to sell it for cheap either. So even with the rumored price drop on the 360, it'll still likely be just as, or close to as expensive as the PS3. There have been plenty of people claiming that the 360 was _under_priced, and that microsoft should have bumped it up $100, since obviously people were more than happy to pay it.

That's still a ton of change to drop on a `console' though. It's going to be one hell of a hard-sell to the wife at this price.

[RelentlessRolento]

ill still get it no matter what Sony wanted to show me. The winner for me was Tekken 6 and Virtua Fighter 5. Im set from there on out.

[My Name Is BoB]

Those of you who say Sony is in trouble are way off. The PS3 will sell, and it will sell like crazy whether you like it or not. With all of its exclusive games there is no way it will fail.

People were/are hesitant buying the 360 at $400, so what makes you think people will pick this up at $600?

[whoknows]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Look at what people were paying for the 360, more than double of what it costs, do you seriously think that the PS3 being $500 will make people not buy it?

[TC]

he's right. PS2 has sold 100 million consoles world wide...someone remind me how much the cube and xbox sold. it'll take another gen or two to knock em out.

I would never want them out of the market. Hell its better for all of us that there are more companies in the gaming market.

[mackaikai]

well N64 was so dead even after Super Nintendo =p
PS3 will do fine, but might not be in front of xbox or Wii by THAT much

[Scorch]

It's funny how people bitched and bitched and bitched about the 360's $400 tag.. yet when the PS3 is announced at $500/$600, everyone's all "OMG WHEN CAN I PREORDER?"

[Purkeynator]

the race to preorder ps3's is on...... http://nsconanb.ytmnd.com/

[Chris in Cali]

It's funny how people bitched and bitched and bitched about the 360's $400 tag.. yet when the PS3 is announced at $500/$600, everyone's all "OMG WHEN CAN I PREORDER?"


Dude, what are you talking about?

[GizmoGC]

Just think about it.

Microsoft hasn't announced how much their HD-DVD add-on will cost yet, have they?

If it's just a standard USB HD-DVD drive (more or less), they won't be able to sell it for cheap either. So even with the rumored price drop on the 360, it'll still likely be just as, or close to as expensive as the PS3. There have been plenty of people claiming that the 360 was _under_priced, and that microsoft should have bumped it up $100, since obviously people were more than happy to pay it.

That's still a ton of change to drop on a `console' though. It's going to be one hell of a hard-sell to the wife at this price.

A stand-alone HD-DVD is $500 at the moment. I imagine a 360 will be $300.
However, Im not statting this is why HD will win.
Sony including DVD in there PS2 really helped make DVDs the standard. Selling a system with Blu-Ray for $600 will not.

[Sarang01]

I think i'll prob go for the 20GB one. Honestly I don't know why people expected it to be 400. Blu ray players cost 999 currently. This one has that, cell processor, and the RSX. You got to be kidding me if you were honestly thinking (even at cost subsidizing) that they were going to offer it for less.

From a personal standpoint it is not that expensive for a Blu ray player. I have a 1080p LCD TV so I'm excited that I can get a bluray player in november without having to shell out 800 bucks.

also in comparison DVDs are 480i resolution, you can upconvert them but the quality is extremely subpar compared to 1080p video. I've seen some bluray discs already go for 21 bucks. In time it will drop to the price of DVDs. I think sony are bastards but I think they're gonna win this format war.

I will take whatever has the best PQ. I don't give a fuck about storage size if you can't deliver on PQ because you're using a shitty copyright protection format that fucks up the picture, COUGHSonyCOUGH. So in this case give me a 2 disc 1080p HD-DVD movie that costs a $ or 2 more than the Blu-Ray equivalent and I'll buy it instead. Hopefully Sony fails and then I can GET a copy of Heavy Metal on HD-DVD instead.

[Vinny]

he's right. PS2 has sold 100 million consoles world wide...someone remind me how much the cube and xbox sold. it'll take another gen or two to knock em out.

Uh... you do realize that they'll be losing money for every console sold for at least the first few years right? And it's not just a little, they're losing a lot of money since a Blu-Ray player (with the drive and Cell CPU) alone retails for $1000. Think about the PS3, it has a Blu-Ray drive and Cell plus all that other crap. It's like MS did with the XB for the first, what, 4 years of the system's life?

[Ikohn4ever]

he's right. PS2 has sold 100 million consoles world wide...someone remind me how much the cube and xbox sold. it'll take another gen or two to knock em out.


i believe they said 100million shipped, huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuged difference from sold

[Island Dog]

do you seriously think that the PS3 being $500 will make people not buy it?

Yes I do.

[jer7583]

fuck the ps3 bring on the Wii.

Was there ANYTHING announced in their conference that didn't have a number behind it? lol.

[TC]

It's funny how people bitched and bitched and bitched about the 360's $400 tag.. yet when the PS3 is announced at $500/$600, everyone's all "OMG WHEN CAN I PREORDER?"

Hell yeah baby. I got cash to make on ebay.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Uh... you do realize that they'll be losing money for every console sold for at least the first few years right? And it's not just a little, they're losing a lot of money since a Blu-Ray player (with the drive and Cell CPU) alone retails for $1000. Think about the PS3, it has a Blu-Ray drive and Cell plus all that other crap. It's like MS did with the XB for the first, what, 4 years of the system's life?

I think MSoft lost over 4 billion (or more) over the lifespan of the original Xbox. Sony can't take a hit like that.

[b3b0p]

Major Details Revealed!

Launch Date & Price

Nov 17th USA
20gb - $499
60gb - $599

Nov 11th JAPAN
20gb - 59800yen
60gb - retailers set price

Controllers are motion sensitive and look like PS2 controllers




Now that I have a job, I can afford it, but think I'll pass and get one when Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts is released. I'll stick with the Wii and my crapload of games I haven't played yet. No rush.

[GizmoGC]

fuck the ps3 bring on the Wii.

Was there ANYTHING announced in their conference that didn't have a number behind it? lol.

Nope. All sequels to some games that been have dead for ages. Slap them on a new system and 'WOOOOOAH!!!!!!'

Can;t wait for Fantavision 2 - Now with Wi-err- PS3 Gyromantiacsiouly controller!

[Purkeynator]

fuck the ps3 bring on the Wii.

Was there ANYTHING announced in their conference that didn't have a number behind it? lol.

As much as I hate sony, nintendo makes stupid games too. Just look at this one http://marioteachesptkfgs.ytmnd.com/

[Scorch]

Dude, what are you talking about?

I thought I made my point pretty clear.

[spoo]

As much as I hate sony, nintendo makes stupid games too. Just look at this one http://marioteachesptkfgs.ytmnd.com/
Interplay is part of nintendo :roll:

[GizmoGC]

As much as I hate sony, nintendo makes stupid games too. Just look at this one http://marioteachesptkfgs.ytmnd.com/

....and it was one of the best PC/MAC titles of the 90's. What's you're point? Who wants to play Mavis Beacon when MARIO can teach them. What a LAME comeback.

[chargeup45]

Two types of people will buy the PS3 at launch: people who can afford it, and stupid people getting the resells on ebay. It'll sell out because there are enough people who are either diehard PS fans or tech junkies, but beyond the six month frantic period is when we'll figure out if the average guy goes for it.

I'll wait.

[Purkeynator]

uh was 1up.com watching the same thing we were? http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3150516
80 gig hard drive my ass

[Roufuss]

Look at what people were paying for the 360, more than double of what it costs, do you seriously think that the PS3 being $500 will make people not buy it?

This is an awesome point.

In a world where people were paying $800 for a 360, people will definately drop $500 on this, and will probably be paying a grand on Ebay for it.

[TC]

Two types of people will buy the PS3 at launch: people who can afford it, and stupid people getting the resells on ebay.

You can call me retarded because I'm going to get all I can to cash in.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Two types of people will buy the PS3 at launch: people who can afford it, and stupid people getting the resells on ebay. It'll sell out because there are enough people who are either diehard PS fans or tech junkies, but beyond the six month frantic period is when we'll figure out if the average guy goes for it.

I'll wait.

I have no doubt that it will sell out. They just won't be selling one to me.

[crazytalkx]

uh was 1up.com watching the same thing we were? http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3150516
80 gig hard drive my ass

Gamespot had the 60 gig model as costing $550.

[GizmoGC]

Oh, I too will buy a few. Just to resell.

[jer7583]

I'm still stunned by the arrogance of the $600 price tag. You know they're going to nerf the $500 version so that there's some incentive for the $600 version to sell other than HD space.

The wal-mart crowd will eat it up. How's it feel to be in the same lot with the guy who drives a 98 civic with fart pipes and tribal styled decals on his car?

[jngx80]

I don't think MS will drop the price by $100 that would be a bit too much too soon. Maybe $50 and a free game or something.

$540 (tax included) for the PS3 is a bit high. I still want to get it at launch but I just don't want to be screwed - buying early and it craps out.

What are your guesses of when there'll be a price drop? The PSP dropped by $50 after a year, granted the tech is less sophisticated.

[Roufuss]

Oh, I too will buy a few. Just to resell.

Yep, this is how smart people are going to do it.

I'll preorder one at GS, I'll wait in line at Best Buy or somewhere similar, and resell the extra.

If I can get double what it's worth, or even close, it's a ps3 for free.

I'm just pissed they used fucking Ridge Racer to show off the ps one emulator on PSP... way to miss the point, Sony.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I don't think MS will drop the price by $100 that would be a bit too much too soon. Maybe $50 and a free game or something.

$540 (tax included) for the PS3 is a bit high. I still want to get it at launch but I just don't want to be screwed - buying early and it craps out.

What are your guesses of when there'll be a price drop? The PSP dropped by $50 after a year, granted the tech is less sophisticated.

The PSP price drop is not a legitimate price drop. They just cut the extra crap and matched something similar to what the Japanese have had since launch.

[botticus]

First: :rofl:

I walk in the door, turn on my computer, and my friend tells me the costs, causing me to laugh. Then he asks me what the controllers include, and obviously I correctly guess motion detection. I love Sony.

As far as Sony losing: losing can be measured in market share. They don't have to go bankrupt to lose. If they drop under 40-50% market share, that's losing. Right now they're around... 55% or so in the US, much larger in Japan. I honestly don't want Sony to go bankrupt, I want them in the game; I just want a more even playing field so everyone wins.

And finally, the number of 360s sold on eBay probably numbered in the tens of thousands (I know shortly after launch it was around 10-20k). The total number of 360s sold last I saw was like 1.2 million. That's a tiny fraction of people spending outrageous amounts.

[Zoglog]

the controller is dissapointing mainly because they kept the damn primary analog in the same place. They really should have shifted it up like the xbox.... So much better for FPS

[GizmoGC]

Did Sony do ANYTHING for the PSP? Announced a LONG overdue Greatest hits program...and what, a 2 minute PS1 on PSP demo? That it?

[GizmoGC]

the controller is dissapointing mainly because they kept the damn primary analog in the same place. They really should have shifted it up like the xbox.... So much better for FPS

There's always next Gen...something else for Sony to copy.

[whoknows]

the controller is dissapointing mainly because they kept the damn primary analog in the same place. They really should have shifted it up like the xbox.... So much better for FPS

Thank God they didnt. Not everyone plays FPS games, and IMO the way the PS3 controller is now is more than fine. Sony will have much more different types of games on the PS3, so instead of making it a controller good for one type of game they made it a controller good for all types....

[Dr Mario Kart]

the controller is dissapointing mainly because they kept the damn primary analog in the same place. They really should have shifted it up like the xbox.... So much better for FPS

Speaking of better controls for FPS, wait till tomorrow morning at 9:30 Pacific ;)

[Zoglog]

Thank God they didnt. Not everyone plays FPS games, and IMO the way the PS3 controller is now is more than fine. Sony will have much more different types of games on the PS3, so instead of making it a controller good for one type of game they made it a controller good for all types....

I really don't see how putting the analog shifted up is disadvantage for any type of 3d game where you primarily use that stick.............

[GizmoGC]

Speaking of better controls for FPS, wait till tomorrow morning at 9:30 Pacific ;)

I have to work!!! Ahh! What will I do? Someone needs to e-mail me the specs.

[jeffreyjrose]

Well this made my decision for the next generation much easier. To get the 360 or the Wii???

[Scorch]

I have to work!!! Ahh! What will I do? Someone needs to e-mail me the specs.

You could hand your phone number off to someone and someone could use online SMS stuff to send you a text message from the net

[ArthurDigbySellers]

You could hand your phone number off to someone and someone could use online SMS stuff to send you a text message from the net

and that message could simply say "Wii is teh uberz"

[GizmoGC]

Good idea... What time is the MS Confrence?

[thorbahn3]

$499 for a system huh? Guess I'll get a Wii first and then a 360.

[ananag112]

What was Afrika exactly?

And I like the PS3 controller. It is a perfect blend of innovation and evolution. They ripped off Nintendo yes, but they were more conservative. I also like all of these announced games. MGS4, Warhawk, Virtua Fighter, Tekken, and a ton of other games. PS3 will be good, but I will wait for a price drop.

[Scrubking]

I said it would cost no less than $500 and look.

I wasn't interested in a PS3 before this and there is no way I am interested now. It will be a hell of a long time before I consider getting what amounts to a Wii 360 that plays blue-ray movies that I don't give a shit about because I am not going to rebuy all of my movies.

I'm sure the fanboys will buy the PS3, but how many regular people will buy? How many moms are gonna by their kids a $600 videogame machine?

[GizmoGC]

Apparently the $500 system does not seem come with HDMI (so much for TRUE HD 1080p), nor does it come with WiFi, nor does it come with MemoryStick/Compactflash/SD slots.

[jngx80]

This is an awesome point.

In a world where people were paying $800 for a 360, people will definately drop $500 on this, and will probably be paying a grand on Ebay for it.

People will pay $500 but it's definitely questionable whether people cam resell them for a grand on ebay. The 360 sold double because it was cheaper. With the PS3 starting at $500 already, there may be a few people buying at $1000 but that shouldn't be the norm.

[WrestleCrap'sRD]

Clearly Sony isn't aiming for the folks here at CHEAPASSGAMER. You may not want to shell out $500 or $600, but plenty of others will.

I think this is the wisest thing said yet in this forum.

I'll pass for sure, but others won't. Sony will make an absolute killing.

RD

[daroga]

Wow... I never thought Sony could pull such a bonehead move, but, sure, why not?

- Price yourself well above a system that was already viewed to be expensive.
- 1/2 assedly copy a competeors controller design, yet don't actually adapt the controller to take advantage of its new ability.
- Have karaoke be a main selling point of your machine.

Wow... just wow.

[Scorch]

Good idea... What time is the MS Confrence?

I'll do it if you want, i'll be watching it in the morning, just PM the phone number

[Kaijufan]

Well this made my decision for the next generation much easier. To get the 360 or the Wii???
Get both of them for the price of a 60 GB PS3. ;)

[GizmoGC]

How ill Sony come back from this? Now, I'm not a big fan of Sony, but if Nintendo did this....holy shit.

[Kendal]

People were/are hesitant buying the 360 at $400, so what makes you think people will pick this up at $600?

Yes, but the 360 is still using last generation DVD technology. Fuck the 360. Add-ons are for sex toys. $600 for the whole package is awesome. I am not saying i will get one day 1, but I want too. A machine that utilizes next gen DVD format for a higher price, or a high priced PC with a promise of an add-on of inferior technology. Blu-ray>HD-DVD.

[daroga]

I think this is the wisest thing said yet in this forum.

I'll pass for sure, but others won't. Sony will make an absolute killing.

RD
Correction, sony will be KILLED. Console sales = loss of money for them. They've gotta move software before they'll make that killing, and they have to get games on the system worthy of a purchase.

[SpreadTheWord]

Apparently the $500 system does not seem come with HDMI (so much for TRUE HD 1080p), nor does it come with WiFi, nor does it come with MemoryStick/Compactflash/SD slots.

Link?

[daroga]

Link?
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/08/engadget-and-joystiqs-live-coverage-of-sonys-playstation-3-e3-ev/

[radjago]

They also removed the rumble feature to fit in the motion sensing parts.

[daroga]

They also removed the rumble feature to fit in the motion sensing parts.
And by a court order!

[GizmoGC]

Yes, but the 360 is still using last generation DVD technology. Fuck the 360. Add-ons are for sex toys. $600 for the whole package is awesome. I am not saying i will get one day 1, but I want too. A machine that utilizes next gen DVD format for a higher price, or a high priced PC with a promise of an add-on of inferior technology. Blu-ray>HD-DVD.

But how many people would pay $600 for a 360 with a HD-DVD? Now how many people will pay an extra $200 6-9 months later for a HD-DVD? Many. Add-ons rock.

[Apossum]

*honk* *can't land* *one guy claps and "woo hoos"* *snake commits suicide*

in any case, i'm pre-ordering tomorrow. not making the same mistake as last time. even if i don't deem it worthy of owning at $500, it'll be a win win situation.

[Professor Oreo]

What was Afrika exactly?

And I like the PS3 controller. It is a perfect blend of innovation and evolution. They ripped off Nintendo yes, but they were more conservative. I also like all of these announced games. MGS4, Warhawk, Virtua Fighter, Tekken, and a ton of other games. PS3 will be good, but I will wait for a price drop.

Afrika was a giraffe leaf-eating sim.

[Dr Mario Kart]

They also removed the rumble feature to fit in the motion sensing parts.

My video feed blacked out for a while. Did they actually say that there is no rumble?

[Apossum]

But how many people would pay $600 for a 360 with a HD-DVD? Now how many people will pay an extra $200 6-9 months later for a HD-DVD? Many. Add-ons rock.

and that'll make it the same price as a PS3 premium, but with an add on that won't take advantage of the extra power and only play dvds.

[GizmoGC]

and that'll make it the same price as a PS3 premium, but with an add on that won't take advantage of the extra power and only play dvds.

...at the 360's current price. But I'd gladly pay that for a format that has a better chance at being around 2 years down the road.

[Dr Mario Kart]

But how many people would pay $600 for a 360 with a HD-DVD? Now how many people will pay an extra $200 6-9 months later for a HD-DVD? Many. Add-ons rock.

The good thing about add-ons is that you DONT HAVE TO BUY THEM. I just want a gaming machine, I dont want a "complete home entertainment solution"

[GizmoGC]

How many people think Nintendo will announce the price and date of the Wii tomorrow?

[Dr Mario Kart]

How many people think Nintendo will announce the price and date of the Wii tomorrow?

I do, both Nintendo and Sony have known well and have been ready to announce it for quite some time. They've just been playing a little waiting game with each other.

Before today, it was rumored that neither Sony or Nintendo would have price or date. It is crucial that they come in tomorrow with a console that is a full half price.

[WrestleCrap'sRD]

Correction, sony will be KILLED. Console sales = loss of money for them. They've gotta move software before they'll make that killing, and they have to get games on the system worthy of a purchase.

Doesn't matter - they will sell systems, largely due to their loyal fanbase. On top of that, because people are shilling out that kinda coin, they will, undoubtedly, buy games to justify the purchase.

Plus there are so many people out there that geek over stuff like Tekken 6 (!!) or a new Final Fantasy or whatever. The sequels will sell, whether we like it or not.

RD

[radjago]

My video feed blacked out for a while. Did they actually say that there is no rumble?
It's in this press release.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509be.pdf

Link?
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf

[WrestleCrap'sRD]

How many people think Nintendo will announce the price and date of the Wii tomorrow?

For sure. Any guesses? How about November 3, and $199, with a $249 package for all virtual console games?

RD

[dpatel]

How many people think Nintendo will announce the price and date of the Wii tomorrow?

Probably. It will make the price look a lot better after hearing the $500 ps3 announcement.

[Purkeynator]

....and it was one of the best PC/MAC titles of the 90's. What's you're point? Who wants to play Mavis Beacon when MARIO can teach them. What a LAME comeback.

it was a joke asshat

[I AM WILLIAM H. MACY]

Did Sony do ANYTHING for the PSP? Announced a LONG overdue Greatest hits program...and what, a 2 minute PS1 on PSP demo? That it?
They used it as a fucking rear-view mirror for Ridge Racer PS3.

[botticus]

How many people think Nintendo will announce the price and date of the Wii tomorrow?
Honestly, I would have been surprised before about seeing a price. I don't know why they wouldn't release a date other than wanting to do them at the same time. But now after the $500-$600 bomb, if they come in at $200 max, they would get a serious high off of that.

I need to get up early and pack a lunch and a few cans of pop so I can get in early and get work taken care of so I can have a leisurely lunch attempting to listen to their conference.

I'm glad the 360 doesn't include HD DVD support (since now I know that will be my second console thanks to Sony); I'm not going for HD DVD or Blu Ray, but the smartest idea would be getting a standalone combo (BD and HD) player, which will have to exist at some point. No way I'm spending hundreds of dollars on a format that has a chance of dying out very quickly.

[GizmoGC]

PSP = Dead?

[Purkeynator]

got your guide today botticus. leaving feedback now

[daroga]

PSP = Dead?
They're just biding their time until they can release PSP2: The Sequel

[Puzznic]

One thing is for sure, Sony is giving the competition the biggest chance imaginable to steal their market share. It's up to Microsoft and Nintendo to take advantage.

[Grave_Addiction]

Look at what people were paying for the 360, more than double of what it costs, do you seriously think that the PS3 being $500 will make people not buy it?

Yeah, but that was a miniscule percentage of the overall gaming population that did that. The vast majority of gamers have either waited for them to become more readily available or haven't bought one yet.

The PS3 will not be able to support itself by this current price point. Paying $400 is the brink of what I think most people are willing to dish out for a console.

Name another system that's been priced higher than $400 at launch and has been successful. Please do it.

[markholladay]

I wish that gamespot would start to stream it. On their site it says it would be up at 7:00, but that has come and past. Poo, I want to see it.

Anywhere else you guys know of that is showing it? And yes, I know it is over.

[GizmoGC]

Name another system that's been priced higher than $400 at launch and has been successful. Please do it.

3DO

I win!

[CappyCobra]

Name another system that's been priced higher than $400 at launch and has been successful. Please do it.
3DO and Neo-Geo AES:lol: j/k