View Full Version : Nintendo E3 Conference Discussion - Controller Speaker - Always On - Yoshi's Island 2
SpottedNigel
05-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Wii sports 4 pack for $20 would be great
CrimsonPaw
05-09-2006, 02:31 PM
That tennis game looks bad-ass!!! I'll need to get me another 3 Wiimotes.
Ikohn4ever
05-09-2006, 02:31 PM
gametraillers is still up
Dogpatch
05-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Seems like alot of fun. Even my wife would enjoy the tennis.
gigan54
05-09-2006, 02:32 PM
That tennis game looks bad-ass!!! I'll need to get me another 3 Wiimotes.
that's exactly what they want us to do. and I for one am totally falling for it
getmeoutofjoliet
05-09-2006, 02:32 PM
hurry up i gotta shave before school!
wheres my price?!!
evilmax17
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Awww over. That was a great show.
Ikohn4ever
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
boo no smash and no price/date
jkircos
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
No mention of Super Smash Brothers...I am sad
mackaikai
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
what, no price?!
CrimsonPaw
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Damn, no pricing ... oh well, it'll be hella cheaper than the PS3
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Awww over. That was a great show.
That's it? No price? No release date? No talk of the virtual console?
Was an entertaining show, but not really that informative... the DS stuff was nice, though.
Dogpatch
05-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Guess no smash brothers. Or Nintendo is holding out.
SpottedNigel
05-09-2006, 02:34 PM
No price.
No SSB.
NO VC Prices.
Still kicked 10 different kinds of ass.
moiety
05-09-2006, 02:34 PM
That was great!
evilmax17
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
That's it? No price? No release date? No talk of the virtual console?
Was an entertaining show, but not really that informative... the DS stuff was nice, though.
Reggie mentioned at the beginning that they were going to keep price/date a secret for a little longer, but that it would be cheaper than the rest, and we'll get it in Q4 2006. He mentioned that early on.
ArthurDigbySellers
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
I am so excited about the Wii but this presentation was sorely lacking. We seriously need a date and a price - now.
Kaijufan
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
Nintendo owned Sony.
Dogpatch
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
Alot to look forward to. Can not wait for some feedback.
AngellicLulu
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
(9:48:02 AM): Says Nintendo will speak about the system, the name, the price and the availability today. Will also explain gamers' "WTF" question of why the name.
So what happened to the price and availability?
Snake2715
05-09-2006, 02:35 PM
More secrets to come with the VCC and I think they held pricing on purpose.
We all kind of know where its going to be.
Decent show until it quit working.
gigan54
05-09-2006, 02:36 PM
i'm worried about the pricing on this now. a small mention about it from the beginning, and nothing at the end doesn't sound too promising.
moiety
05-09-2006, 02:36 PM
Nintendo owned Sony.
No doubt! :)
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 02:37 PM
Reggie mentioned at the beginning that they were going to keep price/date a secret for a little longer, but that it would be cheaper than the rest, and we'll get it in Q4 2006. He mentioned that early on.
Why bother keeping it a secret? If they threw out a date and espically a price now, after that very entertaining presentation with the Wii, it could have had a very very positive impact.
An insanely cheap price would have looked even better, espically since gamers are still reeling from the huge PS3 price.
Purple Flames
05-09-2006, 02:38 PM
That was made of awesome.
I'm preodrdering my Wii ASAP.
I wanted price, release date, Smash Bros., and shell information...I got none... :cry:
It was still a great show.
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 02:38 PM
i'm worried about the pricing on this now. a small mention about it from the beginning, and nothing at the end doesn't sound too promising.
Agreed.. I have a feeling they are trying to build massive amounts of hype, so when the system is more then what everyone expects, it won't make a difference since people will want it regardless.
Survivor Charlie
05-09-2006, 02:38 PM
No Smash Bros? WHO CARES! Mario Galaxy! Crystal Chornicles! Hell, even the Tennis game got me excited.
And on the DS... Yoshi's Island 2!!! Mario vs. DK 2!!!!
This is why being a Nintendo fan pays off. PLEASE Yoshi's Island 2 be better then, shudder, Yoshi's Story for the 64.
Ecofreak
05-09-2006, 02:38 PM
OMG, I am so tired from all the JOYGASMS I just had in the last hour.
Yay For Elite Agent Force! I'm in the mood to play some Ouendan!!!
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 02:38 PM
(9:48:02 AM): Says Nintendo will speak about the system, the name, the price and the availability today. Will also explain gamers' "WTF" question of why the name.
So what happened to the price and availability?
They spoke about it by saying, "We're not gonna speak about it."
Major bummer there. Overall i felt the presentation was lacking real surprises on the Wii front (DS was pretty nicely covered though). Everything that was mentioned about Wii was already known except for a few new IP like Excitetruck and Wii Sports.
EDIT: I COMPLETELY forgot about Mario Galaxy. That part completely kicked all types of ass.
evilmax17
05-09-2006, 02:39 PM
Why bother keeping it a secret? If they threw out a date and espically a price now, after that very entertaining presentation with the Wii, it could have had a very very positive impact.
An insanely cheap price would have looked even better, espically since gamers are still reeling from the huge PS3 price.
My guess is that (much like the reasoning behind announcing "Wii" early), is that they didn't want price/date to take the focus away from the games. This conference was all about games, pure and simple. It was pure. They promised us that we would see Wii hands on, and we saw plenty of it.
They delivered on what they promised.
Apossum
05-09-2006, 02:39 PM
my face has been wrecked..off to finals.
shipwreck
05-09-2006, 02:39 PM
I'm going to guess it's $249 like that EGM leak claimed. They were spot on about the always on system.
y2jedi
05-09-2006, 02:39 PM
Nice presentation, I could easily see this being played more than the 360 in my house.
No damn price though.
Dogpatch
05-09-2006, 02:41 PM
Anyone else feel like they are spacing this stuff out? I bet more will be known this week.
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 02:42 PM
Anyone want to take bets on how long it will take them to cancel the Gamecube version of Twilight Princess?
I'm guessing a few months... they made such a big deal about it on the Wii, I've just got a feeling the Cube one will be silently offed in the coming months, when Gamecube has been forgotten by everyone.
ECW_fan
05-09-2006, 02:43 PM
The Wii is my console! I love interactive games so much and developers have lost interest since the Dreamcast. Maracas, Light guns, and Fishing controler all in one. Plus Tennis racket, basebal bat, boxing gloves and so much more.
There is no way it can't go over 300 in price, well maybe 350, and cheaper games. To me the graphics were on par with the 360.
markholladay
05-09-2006, 02:43 PM
Anyone else feel like they are spacing this stuff out? I bet more will be known this week. I hope so. So what was the big final surprsie, the always on?
I really liked the idea of the speaker in the remote. Should be great 3d sound.
sleepy180
05-09-2006, 02:43 PM
Was it me or did Beat Agents on the DS look similar to Ouendan. I hope it is since I really want to play that game.
im pretty sure beat agents is quendan renamed for america.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 02:44 PM
good stuff:
Starfox DS
Yoshi's Island 2
Osu Tatakae comming stateside
Remote speaker
Red Steel looks great
Wii 24 hours service is very nice
CoffeeEdge
05-09-2006, 02:45 PM
That....was fucking amazing.
Dogpatch
05-09-2006, 02:45 PM
I hope so. So what was the big final surprsie, the always on?
I really liked the idea of the speaker in the remote. Should be great 3d sound.
One of the surprises was the motion sensor in the nunchuck too. The speaker in the wiimote is kickass though. Very interesting idea.
KaneRobot
05-09-2006, 02:45 PM
Presentation lacked meat, but had some nice bread and appetizers. Nothing overly impressive, but better than Sony's. Although that's like saying I'll take an ice cream cone over getting punched in the face.
To be fair, expectations were ultra-high for this, so it's almost impossible to live up to the hype.
Strell
05-09-2006, 02:46 PM
Well. Time to go buy a new keyboard.
Someone spilled....something all over this one.
4 times.
ECW_fan
05-09-2006, 02:46 PM
So can you voice chat on the ds Wi Fi?
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 02:46 PM
Was Yoshi's Island 2 actually called Yoshi's Island 2? Joystiq just called it Yoshi 2, which could be anything.
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 02:46 PM
Looks like the Wii Zelda has a pretty steep learning curve:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3150579
Doesn't phase me a bit though. I'm still incredibly excited about it. I especially love the idea of having sound come out of the controller!
Z-Saber
05-09-2006, 02:47 PM
Good presentation, but could have used another big title, announcement, or more virtual console/price/launch date info.
SpottedNigel
05-09-2006, 02:47 PM
When a game supports it, yes. MP:Hunters has limited voice chat while not playing the game
Strell
05-09-2006, 02:48 PM
No one is saying anything about Project Hammer or Disaster? Those two made my pants fly the fuck off.
Namelessloser
05-09-2006, 02:48 PM
Was Yoshi's Island 2 actually called Yoshi's Island 2? Joystiq just called it Yoshi 2, which could be anything.
It was called Yoshi's Island 2
ECW_fan
05-09-2006, 02:48 PM
When a game supports it, yes. MP:Hunters has limited voice chat while not playing the game
But not in game?
Dr Mario Kart
05-09-2006, 02:49 PM
not overly impressive, bah.
I was literally crying the entire time.
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 02:50 PM
It was called Yoshi's Island 2
Awesome... that's simply awesome.
If they make it as great as New Super Mario Bros... just wow.
SpottedNigel
05-09-2006, 02:50 PM
Zelda - You'll start off learning how to play, not be thrown into the fire like the E3 demo.
Presenters having trouble aiming - They all had to look down at the floor to play, which isnt really the easist/best way to play
I wonder if they'll give a price after the xbox confrence, just incase MS drops thier console down later this year due to the PS3
ECW_fan
05-09-2006, 02:51 PM
No one is saying anything about Project Hammer or Disaster? Those two made my pants fly the fuck off.
Yes those 2 rocked, there is also a servival horror game they did not show but it is up at ign
http://revolution.ign.com/objects/816/816122.html
Scorch
05-09-2006, 02:53 PM
No one is saying anything about Project Hammer or Disaster? Those two made my pants fly the fuck off.
Disaster is my most anticipated title now.
Strell
05-09-2006, 02:53 PM
Yes those 2 rocked, there is also a servival horror game they did not show but it is up at ign
http://revolution.ign.com/objects/816/816122.html
That reminds me. There was another survival horror game called Necro-navia or something like that. It was up for a few seconds and a bunch of bug monsters were crawling towards the player...
Purple Flames
05-09-2006, 02:53 PM
im pretty sure beat agents is quendan renamed for america.
I hope it's a completely revamped game as opposed to just a translated version of Ouendan. That way I can play a new game instead of the US version of a game I already have.
Dr Mario Kart
05-09-2006, 02:53 PM
Microsoft has to follow THAT up? Thats a new variety of being fucked.
ArthurDigbySellers
05-09-2006, 02:53 PM
I wasn't blown away by Disaster as I'm positive the entire sequence was CGI.
Tyga24
05-09-2006, 02:55 PM
Nice presentation, but I really didn't learn anything amazing about the Wii that hadn't already been out there. I really wanted some info on price, release dates, and some info about Wii's online interface. I'm actually a lot more disappointed now thinking about this stuff as I'm typing not knowing too much about the system. Oh well, the games that were shown looked terrific with Zelda, Red Steel, Metroid 3, and Mario Galaxy looking awesome. And this is coming from someone that isn't a Nintendo fanboy, just an equal opportunity gamer.
ECW_fan
05-09-2006, 02:57 PM
I wasn't blown away by Disaster as I'm positive the entire sequence was CGI.
agreed
Rei no Otaku
05-09-2006, 02:58 PM
I was more impressed with the DS lineup. A new Star Fox? Hell yeah! English Ouendan!? *dies*
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 02:58 PM
I wasn't blown away by Disaster as I'm positive the entire sequence was CGI.
I'm the same way. It was just a lot of fancy CGI with no gameplay. I'll admit that the concept of the game sounds interesting (based on the tiny bit of info we were given) but it's just not enough to get me excited yet.
SpottedNigel
05-09-2006, 02:58 PM
Nintendo ON makes more sense now than it ever did before...weird
Grave_Addiction
05-09-2006, 03:04 PM
Okay mofos, I wasn't able to watch Nintendo. Is there any link currently working to see the Nintendo conference?
ECW_fan
05-09-2006, 03:06 PM
Has any one heard any rumors about the disk size?
Apossum
05-09-2006, 03:06 PM
Has any one heard any rumors about the disk size?
it uses dvds and gamecube discs, i think
evilmax17
05-09-2006, 03:08 PM
Gamespot has hands-on articles up. They sound really excited about everything.
Based on what we played, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is poised to fulfill the potential we saw in Tokyo last year. The basics of using the Wii controller were almost exactly what we wanted and worked well with the familiar Metroid control mechanics. The advanced ways to use the controller, such as the grapple beam were pretty slick and presented a lot of interesting possibilities. Look for more on Metroid Prime 3: Corruption soon.
ECW_fan
05-09-2006, 03:09 PM
Has any one heard any rumors about the disk size?
No but it will be here when it is availible http://www.gamespot.com/e3/index.html
KaneRobot
05-09-2006, 03:09 PM
Microsoft has to follow THAT up? Thats a new variety of being fucked.
Yeah. I'm sure they're sitting behind the curtain with their Halo 3 trailer absolutely terrified.
Zoglog
05-09-2006, 03:09 PM
I'm still skeptical but I am eager to try the controller to test out it's potential for FPS. The Mario game seems gimmicky and metroid prime has always been a mediocre game compared to the old metroids so I guess red steel is the game to try.
I really wish they would bring back Bushido blade either on the wii or any console for that matter.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 03:11 PM
an automatic buy for me... PS3 is a must buy as well, but less of a guarantee if I'll have on on launch due to pricing.
slidecage
05-09-2006, 03:12 PM
Reggie mentioned at the beginning that they were going to keep price/date a secret for a little longer, but that it would be cheaper than the rest, and we'll get it in Q4 2006. He mentioned that early on.
cheaper then the rest could mean as high as 350 bucks.
I say by sept nintendo will put out a press release
Due to chip shortage we sadly have to tell you this system has been pushed back to SUMMER 2007
Namelessloser
05-09-2006, 03:13 PM
ill definately buy a Wii at launch. Looks like so much fun playing that tennis game. I was so jealous :(
dmpolska
05-09-2006, 03:13 PM
I thought that presentation was absolutely amazing. The things you can do are, just, wow.
I have basically almost stopped playing/buying games within the last couple of years. The last game I bought before Fifa World Cup for the PS2 was Zelda for the GC. Thats a long while. What was said, about the Wii trying to reach ex-gamers, or gamers who lost interest is true--at least for me it is.
Is anyone else here really excited to try and play some of these games like I am? I mean even the tennis game looked extremely fun to play. Sonic, Mario Galaxy, this is great! :)
Zoglog
05-09-2006, 03:13 PM
an automatic buy for me... PS3 is a must buy as well, but less of a guarantee if I'll have on on launch due to pricing.
same here. It seems every console has something worth buying for. I just hope the game support doesn't end up like the gamecube. So far for the gamecube the only real game I really thought was worth playing on the console was Smash Bros.
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 03:14 PM
Anyone else find it interesting that we haven't really heard any news regarding the controller casings since last E3? I wonder if Nintendo still plans to release them. It seems like they may have been scrapped considering how people have become a lot more open to exclusively using the wii controller as it is, without any sort of attachment.
ryanbph
05-09-2006, 03:15 PM
I wonder if they'll give a price after the xbox confrence, just incase MS drops thier console down later this year due to the PS3
thats what i am thinking...if the egm report is true and it is $250, and msft goes and drops the cost of there systems, then a 360 could be the same or less then a $250 wii...that would ruin the argument I have been hearing for months about how an uninformed parent walks into store, see's 3 systems, and wii is a lot cheaper so they buy that for there kid.
I haven't seen the presentation yet,(stuck at work, need to wait for the boss to leave to DL it.) so I don't have any opinons. It is great they had some good trailers/demo's of games. But the fact they didn't talk about the virtual console, price or release date may hurt them. Yes they sounded better then sony's (I did watch that), but if the highlight was only games, msft can't do much worse. As I would imagine the majority of there press conference will be games as well. It would come down to what games you like to play. While I don't need a price, or an exact date, (the november statement is good enough for me) I would like to know more on the virtual console, the games available, the cost etc...If they had some major announcements on that, that imo could have killed msft chances of sneaking in. As excited as some nintendo only fans are about some of the games shown, there will be as many excited msft only fans to see gears of war, halo 3 etc...
ArthurDigbySellers
05-09-2006, 03:24 PM
Anyone else find it interesting that we haven't really heard any news regarding the controller casings since last E3? I wonder if Nintendo still plans to release them. It seems like they may have been scrapped considering how people have become a lot more open to exclusively using the wii controller as it is, without any sort of attachment.
I was thinking the same thing. Has Nintendo ever talked about the shells in concrete terms or just mentioned it could be done?
SOME informtion about the Virtual Console would have been nice. And by SOME, I mean anything.
slidecage
05-09-2006, 03:26 PM
Nintendo is freaking NUTS if im reading this right
Final fantasy 5 and 6 coming fall or winter. each will be its own cart and probally 29.99
Im sorry but im not going to pay 60 bucks for FF 5&6
hell FF 4 sort of sucked on the GBA
BustaUppa
05-09-2006, 03:27 PM
Just think of how awesome that controller speaker will be... I've got two words for you: LIGHT SABER.
Haven't really kept up with this thread, so maybe someone else already went there. But damn, the thought of swinging around a humming, WHOOSHing, vibrating light saber is too awesome for words!
Abalistar
05-09-2006, 03:28 PM
Anyone else find it interesting that we haven't really heard any news regarding the controller casings since last E3? I wonder if Nintendo still plans to release them. It seems like they may have been scrapped considering how people have become a lot more open to exclusively using the wii controller as it is, without any sort of attachment.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_classic.jpg
That's apparently the normal controller casing. We'll probably hear more about the others as we get closer to the release date.
b1gugly
05-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Look at the Super Paper Mario trailer
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3videos.html
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 03:29 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Has Nintendo ever talked about the shells in concrete terms or just mentioned it could be done?
Last E3, IIRC, they said that the controller shells were in the works and that several styles would be released. No concrete details were given though. I really think that Nintendo is deciding to just scrap the idea altogether unless they are grouping up that info with the rest of Wii's features that still need divulging upon (price, date, online plan, etc.)
ArthurDigbySellers
05-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Just think of how awesome that controller speaker will be... I've got two words for you: LIGHT SABER.
Haven't really kept up with this thread, so maybe someone else already went there. But damn, the thought of swinging around a humming, WHOOSHing, vibrating light saber is too awesome for words!
The speaker in the controller is pretty sweet. I like the fact that it adds to the immersion factor of the games.
Snake2715
05-09-2006, 03:30 PM
Awesome... that's simply awesome.
If they make it as great as New Super Mario Bros... just wow.
It appeared to have dual screen spanning of the game. Kind of like Sonic did.
slidecage
05-09-2006, 03:31 PM
WOW seems like the
WII will be the first system release with a RPG on the first day...
dragon quest swords.
now lets all just hope it dont suck
SpottedNigel
05-09-2006, 03:33 PM
Bonk (classic) will be playable on Wii at the Hudson booth
Abalistar
05-09-2006, 03:34 PM
Nintendo is freaking NUTS if im reading this right
Final fantasy 5 and 6 coming fall or winter. each will be its own cart and probally 29.99
Im sorry but im not going to pay 60 bucks for FF 5&6
hell FF 4 sort of sucked on the GBA
I'm guessing that would be more of a "Square-Enix is freaking NUTS" sort of thing than Nintendo.
And FF6 is going to be redone with new graphics and such, so it's not like they're direct ports(FF5 might, haven't read anything on it).
SpottedNigel
05-09-2006, 03:34 PM
Look at the Super Paper Mario trailer
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3videos.html
2-d mario for the cube. Sweet.
trip1eX
05-09-2006, 03:35 PM
Great conference. The secret wasn't earth shattering, but I believe Nintendo is holding back still. I swear one big feature of Connect24 (Always on) will end being the ability to 'ring' a bud across the country when you want to challenge him to a game even if he's not at his system.
I think Nintendo is deliberately holding back on their games too. For a couple reasons. First trailers don't do them justice. They want attendees to actually play the games before reporting on them. Second, they really don't want the competition to copy them. Yeah Sony talking about you.
b1gugly
05-09-2006, 03:36 PM
Look at the bottom of the page for a Wii classic controller
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/controller.html
evilmax17
05-09-2006, 03:36 PM
Last E3, IIRC, they said that the controller shells were in the works and that several styles would be released. No concrete details were given though. I really think that Nintendo is deciding to just scrap the idea altogether unless they are grouping up that info with the rest of Wii's features that still need divulging upon (price, date, online plan, etc.)
I would say that it isn't scrapped, if only for the VC. Nintendo has said that they want you to play your favorite games as you remember them, and that you shouldn't have to learn new control schemes for them.
evilmax17
05-09-2006, 03:37 PM
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_classic.jpg
SilverPaw750
05-09-2006, 03:37 PM
Look at the Super Paper Mario trailer
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3videos.html
SOLD. I am buying that game. Period.
slidecage
05-09-2006, 03:37 PM
Look at the Super Paper Mario trailer
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3videos.html
makes you wonder why this is a gamecube title and why they didnt try to make it for the WII
i heard release date is LATE 4Q. that would be around the same time the WII comes out.
if Zelda gets cancelled for the CUBe, expect this title to get the Axe as well.
i probally end up dumping my gamecube by AUG. There is nothing on that line up that i want to play. might as well save up for the WII
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 03:37 PM
And FF6 is going to be redone with new graphics and such, so it's not like they're direct ports(FF5 might, haven't read anything on it).
Link to this?
From what I've heard, FF 6 is a direct port, just like FF 4 was (with added dungeons).
b1gugly
05-09-2006, 03:40 PM
http://wii.nintendo.com/philosophy.html
slidecage
05-09-2006, 03:40 PM
LOL looks like xbox has more games coming out for it then gamecube. I thought i read somewhere that 3rd party support was going to dry up for the xbox.
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 03:40 PM
It appeared to have dual screen spanning of the game. Kind of like Sonic did.
Just like Yoshi's Touch and Go did.
That 2D Mario for the cube is awesome, why the hell didn't they bring that up at the conference??
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 03:41 PM
I would say that it isn't scrapped, if only for the VC. Nintendo has said that they want you to play your favorite games as you remember them, and that you shouldn't have to learn new control schemes for them.
That's true, so i guess it makes sense that they'd wait for the VC announcement before they release that info. Thanks to those who posted the new pics of the controller , I hadn't seen that yet.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_classic.jpg
But it looks like it is an entirely different controller as opposed to the wii controller in a classic casing.
Look at the Super Paper Mario trailer
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3videos.html
Holy shyte that looks incredibly fun! Maybe I won't put my gamecube away after all.
Strell
05-09-2006, 03:42 PM
Look at the Super Paper Mario trailer
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3videos.html
Holy SHIT. WHY DIDN'T THEY SHOW THAT IN THE CONFERENCE?
SOLD.
daroga
05-09-2006, 03:42 PM
Edit, NM :)
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 03:43 PM
Link to this?
From what I've heard, FF 6 is a direct port, just like FF 4 was (with added dungeons).
The difference being, FFVI is worth owning. ALWAYS.
I'm still kind of annoyed that no new Smash Bros. was shown...
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 03:43 PM
There wasn't enough damn horn in that conference.
Abalistar
05-09-2006, 03:45 PM
Link to this?
From what I've heard, FF 6 is a direct port, just like FF 4 was (with added dungeons).
Bah, nevermind. I was thinking of FF3 on the DS. I hate Square for mixing up the numbers over the years. Wheneve I see FF3 I automatically think of 6, and 2 of 4, and so on.
Bastards. :headache:
b1gugly
05-09-2006, 03:45 PM
http://wii.nintendo.com/hardware.html
Virtual Console: ....It also will be home to new games conceived by indie developers whose creativity is larger than their budgets.
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 03:46 PM
Holy SHIT. WHY DIDN'T THEY SHOW THAT IN THE CONFERENCE?
SOLD.
No clue... you think they would though, espically with New Super Mario Bros hitting soon, like "Hey, you like that, ANOTHER 2D Mario, this time on the home console!"
Well, I just called over to EB and was the first person to get my name on the list to pre-preorder the Wii. (They don't have any information yet, but they will call when they know when they will begin preorders...)
They also had a similar list for the PS3, but since I'm not paying $600, I didn't need my name on that list...
daroga
05-09-2006, 03:49 PM
I almost feel bad mocking Sony. I'll need well more than $600 when the Wii comes out.
But, you know, that's cause there's about 10 games I want for it already.
Kaijufan
05-09-2006, 03:51 PM
Super Paper Mario looks great.
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 03:53 PM
EVERYONE CAN THANK ME FOR YOSHI'S ISLAND 2!
I randomly played Yoshi's Island on my SNES yesterday...and then they announced this.
Clearly, Reggie was reading my mind.
daroga
05-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Clearly, Reggie was reading my mind.
If that were true, you'd be dead.
daroga
05-09-2006, 04:00 PM
So, if Z:TP hits cube signifcantly before the Wii version comes out, do we get the GC version or wait?
botticus
05-09-2006, 04:04 PM
So, if Z:TP hits cube signifcantly before the Wii version comes out, do we get the GC version or wait?
Both versions are out on launch day of the Wii. I'll probably get both :(
Chat room was good for keeping the 300+ posts of "I don't see anything yet" out of the thread, but I guess it kept most of the discussion out of the thread as well. Someone should put up a log of that somewhere.
I'm ready for Wii Sports and about a dozen of the other games.
And I was pretty confident before the conference, and rightly so... they're likely going to string out press releases across the next 6 months. I have a feeling we'll hear price very soon, and VC info next. They threw enough at you to satisfy you and held enough back to keep you going till launch.
I guess I'll go get my name on a list if EB has one. Not even gonna bother with GameRush for this one.
daroga
05-09-2006, 04:12 PM
I guess I'll go get my name on a list if EB has one. Not even gonna bother with GameRush for this one.
Why not? You want to play the Wii before June 07? Lame.
;)
Abalistar
05-09-2006, 04:15 PM
Both versions are out on launch day of the Wii. I'll probably get both :(
Chat room was good for keeping the 300+ posts of "I don't see anything yet" out of the thread, but I guess it kept most of the discussion out of the thread as well. Someone should put up a log of that somewhere.
I'm ready for Wii Sports and about a dozen of the other games.
And I was pretty confident before the conference, and rightly so... they're likely going to string out press releases across the next 6 months. I have a feeling we'll hear price very soon, and VC info next. They threw enough at you to satisfy you and held enough back to keep you going till launch.
I guess I'll go get my name on a list if EB has one. Not even gonna bother with GameRush for this one.
Damn! I didn't realize there was a chat room. I wish I had read the first two pages of this thread. :-x
CAG 79
05-09-2006, 04:16 PM
Wii Retro Controller announced:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_classic.jpg
Good god. I must own one.
botticus
05-09-2006, 04:27 PM
Damn! I didn't realize there was a chat room. I wish I had read the first two pages of this thread. :-x
Oh yes, there was a chat, and it was good. I think Strell mentioned saving it (I saved it, but Trillian only saves what was cached, so I lost the first two thirds of it, probably), or maybe someone else did.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 04:30 PM
Wii Retro Controller announced:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_classic.jpg
it's pretty!
plus Ign has some sweet metroid Prime 3 shots:
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748547/img_3583106.html
botticus
05-09-2006, 04:33 PM
Thank goodness my fiancee works late tonight. She would get fed up with me catching up on additional details all night.
Supercake
05-09-2006, 04:44 PM
Haven't been able to watch the conference yet, but this was a good topic read. I'm really excited for the Wii, and like others, the name doesn't bother me anymore. Zelda and Wii launch day, perfect fit.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 04:45 PM
E3 DS videos and screens!! Kirby!!! Custom Robo!
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/index.html
botticus
05-09-2006, 04:56 PM
Why is the damn Japanese site getting all this stuff?
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 04:58 PM
Why is the damn Japanese site getting all this stuff?
well, these are all the Japan developed DS games, maybe the US site will start having the US games.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 05:00 PM
Super Paper Mario looks damn good as well.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/index.html
defiance_17
05-09-2006, 05:03 PM
What in the hell is Nintendo trying to do, kill us? I just feel battered right now--it's too much excitement for my body to handle.
All they need to do is announce EarthBound 2, and they can have my soul.
Strell
05-09-2006, 05:07 PM
My head hurts from all the awesome.
daroga
05-09-2006, 05:09 PM
Hey guys, I'm mirroring the videos on my site:
http://www.daroga.org/NintendoE3/
I'll keep that updated as I get new stuff
evanft
05-09-2006, 05:10 PM
Well, Nintendo has officially won my complete support.
I already knew I was gonna pre-order. The limited amount I saw from the press conference makes me want to rush out and do it NOW. I'm so stoked for this. DS + Wii = gaming bliss.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 05:11 PM
Chibi Robo! http://ds.ign.com/articles/706/706242p1.html
botticus
05-09-2006, 05:11 PM
The most surprising thing about today is I managed to accomplish enough at work to make it look like I didn't take a 2.5 hour break to chat and watch streaming video.
Looks like my GC will still get some playtime with that Paper Mario sidescroller. That was looking fantastic!
jer7583
05-09-2006, 05:16 PM
It's a battle between Microsoft and Nintendo now. Does ANYONE care about sony anymore? LOL
The nintendo press conference rocked my world. I bow to their greatness and will buy their products for many years to come.
BustaUppa
05-09-2006, 05:18 PM
first new 2D Mario platformer on a HOME CONSOLE since the Super Nintendo... the awesomenes of that hasn't even fully sunk in yet!!!!
And New SMB rocking on the DS until then, geeze. Overload!!!!!!
Ecofreak
05-09-2006, 05:24 PM
It's a battle between Microsoft and Nintendo now. Does ANYONE care about sony anymore? LOL
I still care about Sony as they still have a lot of RPGs and franchises that I'm interested in. If said developers jump ship, though, then the story would be different.
So my two will be Nintendo Wii first, then a PS3 WAAAY later.
Mattte
05-09-2006, 05:33 PM
Anywhere to download a high quality version of it yet...without paying.
Troz1820
05-09-2006, 05:34 PM
I'm certainly picking up a Wii at launch. My only nagging concern is with the control bar. From the pictures, it looks like it is wired to the console. For my setup, I use a projector with all of my consoles/AV sources located behind me. If the bar needs to be just in front of the screen and is not wireless I'm going to have issues.
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 05:38 PM
God dammit, they added the "retarded baby" noises to Yoshi...I was hoping they'd use the much nice sound effects from the original Yoshi's Island.
Still buying it, though.
Purple Flames
05-09-2006, 05:39 PM
I can't stop thinking about that conference: Super Mario Galaxies, Red Steel, Two versions of Twilight Princess, not to mention the shitload of DS games announded.
Thanks to Nintendo, I'm gonna be broke for a long time to come.
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 05:42 PM
I can't wait tills they get the damn video of the ocnference up. My professor will pay for making me take a final during this most glorious of times.
botticus
05-09-2006, 05:47 PM
I can't wait tills they get the damn video of the ocnference up. My professor will pay for making me take a final during this most glorious of times.
Dearly.
Purple Flames
05-09-2006, 05:48 PM
Seriously. I wanna watch that conference again, and again, and one more time after that.
CrimsonPaw
05-09-2006, 05:50 PM
Best Conference of the Show IMO, these guys really wowed me.
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 05:52 PM
Seriously. Mario Galaxy...I think it was the first time I actually smiled(in a long time) while watching a preview for a game.
DAROGA GETS COOKIES FOR MIRRORING FILES!
corrosivefrost
05-09-2006, 06:00 PM
DAROGA GETS COOKIES FOR MIRRORING FILES!
Yes. Get this man some chocolate chip type goodness (or whatever his preference is.) :D
Did the conference state any difference between Z:TP for GCN and Wii other than the obvious wiimote control scheme?
I find it aggravating that they're doing the 2 version approach, especially due to their approach regarding the release date, particularly if the difference between versions is just the controls.
dafunkk12
05-09-2006, 06:01 PM
I'm happy for a new Star Fox, but you know what I really want to see? A game or cartoon with those muppet-puppets from the SNES game's manual!
Ikohn4ever
05-09-2006, 06:17 PM
wow I left and so much happened after the conference, they still have a lot to tell me, like the pricing, date, pricing of vcgames/shell, smash/punchout/2D metroid, good to see my Cube wont be completely useless
gofishn
05-09-2006, 06:21 PM
WOW! I was going to list my GC on eBay tonight with the 10 cent listing fees but the new Paper Mario just threw that idea in the crapper.
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 06:32 PM
Hey guys, I'm mirroring the videos on my site:
http://www.daroga.org/NintendoE3/
I'll keep that updated as I get new stuff
Thanks for the mirror daroga! Some great vids there!
Purple Flames
05-09-2006, 06:37 PM
Hey guys, I'm mirroring the videos on my site:
http://www.daroga.org/NintendoE3/
I'll keep that updated as I get new stuff
In the Elite Beat Freaks vid, was that Micheal Moore???
daroga
05-09-2006, 06:40 PM
Glad the mirror is useful. Feel free to pass the link on. No big deal. Just don't let it get hacked or anything ;)
I take donations in the form of PayPal and cookie dough ice cream ;)
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 06:42 PM
Will you mirror the conference video? OR MUST I WADE THROUGH GAMESPOT?! =(
Apossum
05-09-2006, 06:44 PM
Sony-- too expensive but I want it for the exclusive games. Eventually. Don't care about the music service, karaoke or 1080p. *Honks*
MS-- still not interested in a 360. don't care about Live Everywhere. I like calling, emailing and hanging out with my friends, but I couldn't care less about what the people on live are doing. No reason to stalk them at every moment. Hopes for Lumine were squashed by Madonna. :lol:
And now, Nintendo. Nintendo just showed about 50 games that I want and a system that looks fun as hell. and it's cheaper and not obsessed with being a media center or connecting you to the strangers you play against online. Reggie's fro supports anvils and is his communication port to Jesus.
it's juuuuuust riiiiiiight 8-)
Thank god at least one of these companies still gives a shit about games.
Lets have a toast to Nintendo pwning the shit out of the game industry this gen *toasts*
daroga
05-09-2006, 06:45 PM
Will you mirror the conference video? OR MUST I WADE THROUGH GAMESPOT?! =(
I will, do they have one up of the whole ocnference yet?
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 06:47 PM
I will, do they have one up of the whole ocnference yet?
I don't know...you're my liason to the good feelings.
daroga
05-09-2006, 06:49 PM
I will, do they have one up of the whole ocnference yet?
nevermind, I see it. It'll be up sometime tonight. I post when I update the files (thoguh check back through the evneing)
For now it's time to hit the gym and supper. FF3 and a redsteel movie are going up right now
Vegan
05-09-2006, 06:49 PM
It's not on mininova yet. I'd kinda like to make a DVD of it.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 06:59 PM
I think this Starfox DS screen points out what I think of Nintendo after all this new stuff:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/01_starfox/img/10.jpg
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 06:59 PM
I felt bad for Nintendo at the start of the conference when Reggie was touting how cool it would be to drive a truck by tilting your controller. Their thunder was kinda robbed by Sony yesterday and their six-degree-capable tilt controller and the warhawk demo.
Also, I can't stress enough how much i LOVE the idea of having a speaker in the wiimote. The idea of hearing an arrow leave your hand and land on the screen makes gaming that much more immersive.
RelentlessRolento
05-09-2006, 07:00 PM
don't forget Nintendo's second page of official stuff... good to see chibi robo there
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/index2.html
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 07:02 PM
Star Fox DS looks to be free-roaming...I want it ON RAILS, DAMMIT!
Roufuss
05-09-2006, 07:07 PM
don't forget Nintendo's second page of official stuff... good to see chibi robo there
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/ds/index2.html
Those screens for Yoshi's Island 2... oh man. Simply awesome.
Looks like it will even have different babies with their own abilities.
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 07:08 PM
Hotel Dusk looks intriguing as well. Kind of Phoenix Wrighty-Trace Memory....y.
RedvsBlue
05-09-2006, 07:10 PM
Also, I can't stress enough how much i LOVE the idea of having a speaker in the wiimote. The idea of hearing an arrow leave your hand and land on the screen makes gaming that much more immersive.
Or reload sounds in gun games. At first I couldn't think what the speaker would be for but now it seems like a decent enough idea.
I must say the Revolution is looking like more a tempting secondary system every day.
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 07:11 PM
Or reload sounds in gun games. At first I couldn't think what the speaker would be for but now it seems like a decent enough idea.
IT'd work in Horror games/mystery games as well. Radios crackling, mysterious phone calls; it's a great touch.
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 07:16 PM
Think of how it could have worked with a MEtal Gear game...you hear the codec noise from the controller, and everytime you talk over the radio/codec, the voices ceom from that thing instead (perhaps even lower the sound so that you have to raise it up to listen, like a phone).
Shit, Kojima hasn't revealed anything yet...I can't wait for him to unveil his new Wii game!
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 07:20 PM
By the way, any links to a Mario Galaxy video in quicktime format?
botticus
05-09-2006, 07:27 PM
No preorders at EB, obviously, but no list yet either. They figure within the month they'll start. We shot the shit for a while about E3 in general, mostly the Wii with some Sony bashing and MS info thrown around.
And for the record, during a half hour-plus conversation with three game store employees and a second customer, there were zero smiles, snickers or jokes about the name "Wii." Nintendo FTW.
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 07:31 PM
No preorders at EB, obviously, but no list yet either. They figure within the month they'll start. We shot the shit for a while about E3 in general, mostly the Wii with some Sony bashing and MS info thrown around.
And for the record, during a half hour-plus conversation with three game store employees and a second customer, there were zero smiles, snickers or jokes about the name "Wii." Nintendo FTW.
But Wii means URINE Botticus...or did you miss the hilarious memos?
Haring tha tthe VC will be open to amateur/indie devs makes me want this all the more; this si asusming Nintendo is finally out of its Assholio Liscensing mode.
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 07:35 PM
But Wii means URINE Botticus...or did you miss the hilarious memos?
Haring tha tthe VC will be open to amateur/indie devs makes me want this all the more; this si asusming Nintendo is finally out of its Assholio Liscensing mode.
Where did you hear that?
I must have missed that...sounds sweet, though.
MadChedar0
05-09-2006, 07:36 PM
I think Super Paper Mario will be able to distract me from the Wii Launch in Q4 long enough for either
a.) Any launch kinks to be cleaned up or
b.) The initial price drop.
Overall I think it's going to be a good E3
1SwtDeception
05-09-2006, 07:48 PM
Screw History testing! I can't believe I'm missing sooo much right now! I want to do all these happy things and say these happiness and DANCE THE HAPPY DANCE!!!!!!
It's just awesome, Nintendo is doing a damn well fine job.
Star Fox DS looks to be free-roaming...I want it ON RAILS, DAMMIT!
I have to agree. I hope that some of the levels are on rails...a mix of both like Starfox 64 would be good. I noticed most of the screenshots show enemies mapped out on the bottom screen though like they would be in a free roaming enviornment. I'm still psyched though.
Javery
05-09-2006, 08:02 PM
Wow, Nintendo really cleaned up.
Vegan
05-09-2006, 08:25 PM
Just call me Wiigan from here on out.
daroga
05-09-2006, 08:32 PM
The whole press conference will be uploaded in about 5 minutes.
You can thank me later:
http://press.nintendo.com/e32k6/index.html
Login:media
PWD:E32006
Oops! I did it again.
05-09-2006, 08:32 PM
My head hurts from all the awesome.
Pretty much sums it up.
What a conference, what a day.
I can't wait to even just get this bad boy on a pre-order list.
Mattte
05-09-2006, 08:35 PM
Elite Beat Agents = Ouedan, right?
All I heard about it was its a sweet rythm game, and I loved Jam With the Band, and hopefully will like this.
daroga
05-09-2006, 08:39 PM
Ok, the press conference in full is up. A big redsteel movie is heading up.
http://www.daroga.org/NintendoE3/
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 08:41 PM
Where did you hear that?
I must have missed that...sounds sweet, though.
He mentioned it in the press conference, saying something like "Now something can be done for those whose creativity exceeds their budget."
Mattte
05-09-2006, 08:41 PM
Ok, the press conference in full is up. A big redsteel movie is heading up.
http://www.daroga.org/NintendoE3/
Thanks daroga. :applause:
daroga
05-09-2006, 08:42 PM
Thanks daroga. :applause:
No prob! Enjoy! :)
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 08:43 PM
Thanks daroga. :applause:
DAROGA FTW!
ryanbph
05-09-2006, 08:45 PM
Thanks daroga, I have been trying to get it to DL for hours...
botticus
05-09-2006, 08:46 PM
Daroga is my hero. Just don't tell Reggie.
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 08:50 PM
Daroga is my hero. Just don't tell Reggie.
He already knows. Tell your loved ones "goodbye"...
Vegan
05-09-2006, 08:52 PM
Thank you, I can't wait to make a DVD out of this and watch it proper, instead of all stealth-like at work.
Mattte
05-09-2006, 08:53 PM
I just noticed this...anyone else think the cord from the wiimote to the analog may be a little too short? There could be some pretty intense sword slashes in the and could rip it right out of the wiimote...
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 08:57 PM
IT'd work in Horror games/mystery games as well. Radios crackling, mysterious phone calls; it's a great touch.
Think of how it could have worked with a MEtal Gear game...you hear the codec noise from the controller, and everytime you talk over the radio/codec, the voices ceom from that thing instead (perhaps even lower the sound so that you have to raise it up to listen, like a phone).
Shit, Kojima hasn't revealed anything yet...I can't wait for him to unveil his new Wii game!
:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool: :drool:
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 08:59 PM
The whole press conference will be uploaded in about 5 minutes.
You can thank me later:
http://press.nintendo.com/e32k6/index.html
Login:media
PWD:E32006
Many thanks daroga! There are some great resources there!
daroga
05-09-2006, 09:01 PM
Just watching the press conference now, gosh I can't wait for this thing. Nintendo wins E3.
crazytalkx
05-09-2006, 09:02 PM
Nintendo pwn Sony! OH NOES!!11
Damn, who cares if its called the Wii, woo!
Mattte
05-09-2006, 09:04 PM
Why does Sony and MS not have their own Reggie...he is pwning everyone else just with his speeches, and his elbows aren't sweating.
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 09:09 PM
Thanks to Daroga and his Nintendo link, we finally have a great pic of the Wii classic controller:
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5286/wiiclassic0501large3ey.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
BTW, the original pic is about three times the resolution and looks BEAUTIFUL!
I think its now pretty clear that this class controller will not be a "shell," as was previously mentioned by Nintendo.
Ecofreak
05-09-2006, 09:11 PM
I must say the Revolution is looking like more a tempting secondary system every day.
Secondary? For me, Wii's going to be my primary w/ DS comfortably next to it.
apokalipze2
05-09-2006, 09:15 PM
They need to release this now
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 09:18 PM
Daroga, any chance you have the media links for either Sony and/or Nintendo? The quality of the pics on these sites is amazing.
gokou36
05-09-2006, 09:19 PM
Did anyone else notice in the last zelda room where he's fighting all those monsters there were slowdowns when he slashed them? I'm not sure if thats video lag or it was an intentional effect.
SpazX
05-09-2006, 09:21 PM
Did anyone else notice in the last zelda room where he's fighting all those monsters there were slowdowns when he slashed them? I'm not sure if thats video lag or it was an intentional effect.
I noticed it as well. I couldn't really tell, but it seemed intentional. It stopped when link went from one enemy to the next and no other time.
Tromack
05-09-2006, 09:24 PM
Did anyone else notice in the last zelda room where he's fighting all those monsters there were slowdowns when he slashed them? I'm not sure if thats video lag or it was an intentional effect.
It's intentional. If you played windwaker it would be obvious.
daroga
05-09-2006, 09:26 PM
Ah, during tennis they had a wrist strap on the controller. Nice.
Mattte
05-09-2006, 09:28 PM
Anyone else notice during one of the demos of people playing Excite Truck...there was some old crazy man sitting on the couch with them holding a steering wheel trying to play :lol:
Reality's Fringe
05-09-2006, 09:45 PM
I don't know if this has been mentioned but....is that Mr. Bean in the Red Steel trailer?!
Where's the Reggie E3 conferrence? I can't find it.
daroga
05-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Where's the Reggie E3 conferrence? I can't find it.
I got it for ya
www.daroga.org/NintendoE3
OMG!!!! Thank you so much.
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 10:03 PM
Daroga...seriously, man...I love you. A LOT.
And damn you...I noticed the wrist strap, and forgot to mention it! I wanted to be first!
Any word yet on that classic controller? (i.e. will they package it in the system, or sell it seperate? My money's on the latter, sadly)
Apossum
05-09-2006, 10:07 PM
Daroga wins thread! thanks so much!
That classic controller is awesome...I'm so glad they put in real dual analog sticks instead of that c-stick crap.
daroga
05-09-2006, 10:08 PM
Daroga...seriously, man...I love you. A LOT.
And damn you...I noticed the wrist strap, and forgot to mention it! I wanted to be first!
Any word yet on that classic controller? (i.e. will they package it in the system, or sell it seperate? My money's on the latter, sadly)
Hey, love you too man. I'll keep throwing up any vids I deem worthy throughout E3.
For the wrist strap thing, you need to be faster on the draw my friend.
My thought is they'll sell it separately, but there will be a few free VC games included with it (like "5 free NES downloads with purchase!" sort of thing)
botticus
05-09-2006, 10:09 PM
If they want people to use the VC, they better pack in the classic controller with the system. Or at worst, give you x free VC downloads with purchase of controller.
I'm still going with system + 2 controllers + classic controller (+ Wii Sports?) = $250.
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 10:13 PM
If they packaged Wii Sports with the system, they would win.
WIN, I SAY!
basketkase543
05-09-2006, 10:14 PM
If they packaged Wii Sports with the system, they would win.
WIN, I SAY!
Here, here!
SpazX
05-09-2006, 10:16 PM
If they want people to use the VC, they better pack in the classic controller with the system. Or at worst, give you x free VC downloads with purchase of controller.
I'm still going with system + 2 controllers + classic controller (+ Wii Sports?) = $250.
That would definitely be worth the $250.
The pic of the classic controller shows it corded though, it would be great to have a cordless version.
botticus
05-09-2006, 10:16 PM
If they packaged Wii Sports with the system, they would win.
WIN, I SAY!
Considering the rudimentary graphics, and the tech demo-ish feel, I can't see it being more than a budget title. And based on what they were talking about - something that everyone can enjoy and will get people involved in the system - they need to include it so everyone will be able to try it/see it.
RedvsBlue
05-09-2006, 10:17 PM
Secondary? For me, Wii's going to be my primary w/ DS comfortably next to it.
My 360 is already my primary system. I don't own a DS anymore, I'm on the fence about getting a lite.
botticus
05-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Has anyone said anything about the Wii/DS WiFi connectivity? I saw that typed up somewhere, not sure where, maybe a GameSpot article (too much news today!). I didn't hear it in the conference though.
evilmax17
05-09-2006, 10:23 PM
Has anyone said anything about the Wii/DS WiFi connectivity? I saw that typed up somewhere, not sure where, maybe a GameSpot article (too much news today!). I didn't hear it in the conference though.
http://wii.nintendo.com/hardware.html
Communication: Wii can communicate with the Internet even when the power is turned off. This WiiConnect24 service delivers a new surprise or game update, even if users do not play with Wii. Users can connect wirelessly using IEEE 802.11b/g, or with a USB 2.0 LAN adaptor. Wii also can communicate wirelessly with Nintendo DS.
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Nothing more than that so far.
Vinny
05-09-2006, 10:26 PM
Ok, the press conference in full is up. A big redsteel movie is heading up.
http://www.daroga.org/NintendoE3/
Thanks man, I've been looking for the conf. video everywhere!
Blind the Thief
05-09-2006, 10:33 PM
I'm definitely happy with Nintendo, but why does everyone say they "won" E3?
I honestly wasn't THAT impressed with the conference. Excite Trucks didn't look that cool, We got a few shots of Mario (and, sadly, very little in the way of details on HOW the controller is used in unique ways with him), and Smash Bros. wasn't even mentioned (something I was personally looking forward to).
Sony's conference was definitely worse (aside from MGS4), Microsoft's wasn't half bad...and Tennis certainly sold me on the system (not that I wasn't sold already...), but really, I'll wait until people get to try games tomorrow before I pass judgement.
encendido5
05-09-2006, 10:35 PM
Thanks for the videos Daroga! I will be watching them as soon as I download them.
dafunkk12
05-09-2006, 10:39 PM
Why's no one mentioned this yet? Sure, we know the N64's C buttons were primarily for the camera, which evolved into the C stick. However, some games used them for other purposes. So why the hell doesn't this classic controller have 6 face buttons?! RABBLE!!!
daroga
05-09-2006, 10:40 PM
Adding some of the new press stuff now to be archived in case we lose access to the site.
daroga
05-09-2006, 10:41 PM
Why's no one mentioned this yet? Sure, we know the N64's C buttons were primarily for the camera, which evolved into the C stick. However, some games used them for other purposes. So why the hell doesn't this classic controller have 6 face buttons?! RABBLE!!!
What? It uses the 2nd analog stick just like the Zelda compilations did on the Gamecube.
Genocidal
05-09-2006, 10:41 PM
Nearly 500 posts in and I haven't seen anyone mention that it's Conference? For shame.
botticus
05-09-2006, 10:45 PM
Nearly 500 posts in and I haven't seen anyone mention that it's Conference? For shame.
We've been blinded by Strell's, er... yeah.
daroga
05-09-2006, 10:45 PM
Nearly 500 posts in and I haven't seen anyone mention that it's Conference? For shame.
For a system whose name is Wii, I think we can get somethings slide ;)
dafunkk12
05-09-2006, 10:47 PM
What? It uses the 2nd analog stick just like the Zelda compilations did on the Gamecube.
Well, I was thinking particularly of fighting games. I was going to specifically reference Killer Instinct Gold, but aside from the obvious point that it won't be on VC, I couldn't remember if it was a 6-button or 4-button game.
daroga
05-09-2006, 10:49 PM
Well, I was thinking particularly of fighting games. I was going to specifically reference Killer Instinct Gold, but aside from the obvious point that it won't be on VC, I couldn't remember if it was a 6-button or 4-button game.
Ahh, yeah. The stick does leave some limitations in that regard. I dunno, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they cookup!
Mattte
05-09-2006, 10:51 PM
Hopefully you can customize the controller buttons. I'd much rather use Y and B to play NES games instead of the way the B and A buttons are placed.
jer7583
05-09-2006, 10:52 PM
This brings up a similar concern to me.. what about 3rd person games? How will camera control work? The traditional second stick that positions manual cameras is not present. The D-Pad on the wiimote doesn't seem like the best substitute.. maybe it'll work.
ryanbph
05-09-2006, 10:53 PM
After finally watching the press conference, I was underwhelmed due to the hype that was built from other cags who had watched it. They did an excellent job in the presentation, espically the intro with miggy. But the wii games were not as promising as I hoped for. Granted I am very happy with my 360, and there showing last year was poor, and the games looked like shit for them at e3. Mario/yoshi games don't interest me. I was happy with the sports game, zelda, and a couple other games. I like the idea of ubisofts fps, but it it didn't look good. The ds stuff looked good, as did the light.
Dr Mario Kart
05-09-2006, 10:55 PM
I tried to set the bar as high as I possibly could, and it was still exceeded regardless.
Looking good was not the point of the conference. Go to a store and play a demo whenever it occurs.
SpazX
05-09-2006, 10:56 PM
This brings up a similar concern to me.. what about 3rd person games? How will camera control work? The traditional second stick that positions manual cameras is not present. The D-Pad on the wiimote doesn't seem like the best substitute.. maybe it'll work.
My thought was just to use the remote for that. If using the remote for swinging or something then hold a button when attacking? I dunno, something like that.
Zoglog
05-09-2006, 10:57 PM
woohooo higher res videos. That red steel promo vid is beyond horrid though.... esp when that part he thinks gangster shooting a tv is so cool......... Animations seem less fluid in the presentation than the promo vid too. I doubt it's gonna happen but they really got to fix that hand model, it looks horrible :D
botticus
05-09-2006, 11:14 PM
I guess these complaints about Red Steel's graphics explain why I'm not excited about the 360 or PS3.... I think the game looks great, but apparently I'm not jaded enough.
seanr1221
05-09-2006, 11:18 PM
While the graphics look Gamecube 1.5ish, I am still very excited for the Wii....however no sign of smash brothers is a huge let down.
dafunkk12
05-09-2006, 11:18 PM
Actually, you know what would work fine for all VC games (including 6-button Genesis)? The N64 controller. (With the addition of Select and Home buttons, of course.) Maybe use one of those two-prong hybrid designs they had back in the day where both the D-pad and analog stick were both on the left side. Never tried one of those controllers though. Anybody here use it? Was it at all uncomfortable?
After remembering the existence of the PlanetGamecube forums, I looked at what they said, and someone made a good point that this pad seems more like a pad to make ports easier to play (It's a DualShock!) than a pad that would play all VC games.
daroga
05-09-2006, 11:23 PM
In regards to the graphics, I'm sure things will be cleaned up. Launch is 7 months away. They were focusing on getting the gameplay to be flawless for E3 rather than the asthetics. Those'll come with time too. And in the end, will I notice that the hand model blows in the middle of a sword fight? I doubt it.
Dr Mario Kart
05-09-2006, 11:26 PM
Reggie said it at the very beginning. If all you're looking for is 'next-gen', you're in the wrong place.
seanr1221
05-09-2006, 11:27 PM
Yea I agree Daroga. It was most Metroid Prime 3 and H.A.M.M.E.R. that didn't look to hot graphically to me. Wii Sports had the perfect graphics for what they were trying to achieve IMO. If I get Wii on day one will depend on how this new Mario game turns out though, since SSB seems to be no where in site.
Ecofreak
05-09-2006, 11:29 PM
http://wii.nintendo.com/hardware.html
Communication: Wii can communicate with the Internet even when the power is turned off. This WiiConnect24 service delivers a new surprise or game update, even if users do not play with Wii. Users can connect wirelessly using IEEE 802.11b/g, or with a USB 2.0 LAN adaptor. Wii also can communicate wirelessly with Nintendo DS.
You know what that means?! VC games downloadable to the DS via a flash ram!!!
WOO - all the classics now portable to your liking. :drool:
Apossum
05-09-2006, 11:34 PM
You know what that means?! VC games downloadable to the DS via a flash ram!!!
WOO - all the classics now portable to your liking. :drool:
:-k eeenteresting. how much flash ram is in the DS?
Genocidal
05-09-2006, 11:46 PM
I was definitely encouraged by how easily the contest winner, with no experience playing the system, picked up the tennis game and just started playing it. If Nintendo's looking to capture the non-gamer with ease of play, Wii Sports is a step in the right direction.
Chris in Cali
05-09-2006, 11:49 PM
woohooo higher res videos. That red steel promo vid is beyond horrid though.... esp when that part he thinks gangster shooting a tv is so cool......... Animations seem less fluid in the presentation than the promo vid too. I doubt it's gonna happen but they really got to fix that hand model, it looks horrible :D
Dude, you've been trolling the Nintendo forums all day, if you don't like Nintendo then just leave. Here are some examples from his posts...
"Hmmm, i'm dissapointed in the standby time for the DS lite. My psp can go on a week in standby mode but the DS lite only seems to a few days =(."
Who needs a system to standby for an entire week?
"I just hope the game support doesn't end up like the gamecube. So far for the gamecube the only real game worth playing on the console was Smash Bros."
I guess Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4, Eternal Darkness, Super mario Sunshine, Viewtiful Joe, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario TTYD, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, F-Zero GX, and Pikmin all weren't good enough?
"The Mario game seems gimmicky and metroid prime has always been a mediocre..."
"2D Zelda, finally something worth getting interested about. I'll finally get a game to play on my DS lite..."
Yeah, you know, because the DS doesn't have any good games.
"oh i'm sorry, am I supposed to suck nintendo's cock too just cuz they show some clips of nostalgia? This reeks of fanboyism"
..Said during a casual conversation amongst gamers who were enjoying themselves, and not bashing, or even speaking about any other systems/brands.
"wow that was boring, he was just reading off marketing text. Nice move nintendo. Forcing people to get a seperate version so they will buy the Wii.
Forcing? Who's forcing? If you have a GCN, you can get the GCN version. If you have a Wii you can get the Wii version. How, in any way, is that force? Not to mention you can play the GCN version on the Wii if you CHOOSE to.
red steel might be the only decent game coming out due to appropriate use of the control scheme. minus the gangster style..."
He later bashed this game.
"oh wow Zelda will have the same crappy control scheme...... lame"
You mena the same crappy control setup that earned it 10 out of 10 on IGN for Zelda OOT? The same crappy controls that are known by many a gamer to be one of the best games of all time? Then yes, it's still there.
"Funny thing is if this was any other company you people would be bitching "Omg looks just like the Xbox" or "omg just like my ps2" "lol no nextgen graphics"
Did you forget Nintendo's charing $200-$300 less for their console than the other ones?
"Well this is purely fanboy so i'm out of this. Prob gonna still buy the Wii if it's cheap though. you people disgust me with that constant cock sucking"
Who's the fanboy again?
"playing on the margin" HAHA like all your damn Handhelds nintendo? But hey fanboys dont care"
Ha ha, you got me there! Mostly because you made zero sense.
"Mario is gay.."
nuff said.
Broccoli Storm
05-09-2006, 11:50 PM
Addressing the issue of the controller having too few buttons--I was at the Nintendo Store today in NYC for the conference, and the employees had pictures of the Wii controller. Two of them were what we have seen (the remote/nunchuck), but there will also be a standard controller similar to the GCN controller. I didn't really get to have a good look because I was kind of peeking over the employee's shoulder, but similar to the DS, just because the system offers this kind of technology doesn't mean every game will use it (certainly in the case of the VC games if they're not getting updated).