Nintendo E3 Conference Discussion - Controller Speaker - Always On - Yoshi's Island 2

[whoknows]

Just to annoy people...

NINTENDO STEALS CAPCOM'S GAMEPLAY IDEA IN METROID PRIME 3

Seriously, anyone who has played Resident Evil Gun Survivor 2 (its an import game) its the same damn thing basically. You move with the d-pad on the back of the light gun and use the lightgun to shoot. I have said it before and I say it again, the Wii controller isn't as "innovative" as people have been leading me to believe. Its still a cool thing though, but I'll wait until something truly innovative is done with it before I buy.

For clarity:
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8862/7g0eu.th.jpg (http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7g0eu.jpg)

[Ecofreak]

Dude, you've been trolling the Nintendo forums all day, if you don't like Nintendo then just leave.

Word - for those of you who arn't interested what's the point of posting here?

It's already been confirmed NUMEROUS times that the Wii won't look as good as the PS3 or 360, but the degree to which is debatable and really not that important to a lot of people. Well, except for the hard core cataegory which Nintendo is not explicitly catering to. For those of us who are more casual, we are excited about the new possibilities of interfacing with games.

To be honest, I am REALLY excited about the Wii as I can see myself playing these games with my parents. My mom wants to play with me, but can't get past the interface learning curve of current gen systems. Can you imagine, a 22 year old son and his mother and father playing video games together?! It's all but unheard of and exactly how Nitendo hopes to expand the market. Try doing THAT with the 360 and PS3.

So you all can enjoy your HD graphics with the same control mechanisms from 2 Generations ago while those of us who are not completely closed minded will get to try something new.

BTW - I'm buying a PS3 when it hits $500 for the premium pack, so don't call me a fanboy. I'm just sick and tired of flammers who have no experience with the controller. You want proof that the concept is at least feasible and has possibility? Look at all the blogs, newspaper articles, and what not before you open your cake-hole.

[crazytalkx]

Just to annoy people...

NINTENDO STEALS CAPCOM'S GAMEPLAY IDEA IN METROID PRIME 3

Seriously, anyone who has played Resident Evil Gun Survivor 2 (its an import game) its the same damn thing basically. You move with the d-pad on the back of the light gun and use the lightgun to shoot. I have said it before and I say it again, the Wii controller isn't as "innovative" as people have been leading me to believe. Its still a cool thing though, but I'll wait until something truly innovative is done with it before I buy.

Actually its Retro that is developing Metroid Prime 3 ;) . And that was one game, not a console foundation that was stolen, ah I <3 Sony.

[whoknows]

Actually its Retro that is developing Metroid Prime 3 ;) . And that was one game, not a console foundation that was stolen, ah I <3 Sony.
Eh, Retro is owned by Nintendo though...and I was just stating a point that they didnt invent the concept, just bringing a little heat to the topic ;)

[Robobandit]

Well, according to the gameplay impressions, you play metroid prime 3 with the nunchuck analog stick and the remote, change weapons with the d-pad

"tossing" the nunchuck activates samus grapple beam, which can pull shields off of the enemies, and you can be blasting enemies on one side while taking their shields away on the other.. sounds pretty cool :)

[daroga]

So this is fun.

A friend of mine at school is a die hard Sony guy. Loves his PS2, wants to get a PSP. Fine, whatever. We joke a kid around with each other. With E3, I had to be the one to break it to him that it was going to cost $600. Today he came into the lbirary where I was working asking if Wii was the same thing as the Revolution, because he was trying to comapre specs, beause price alone he might get a Wii while he waits for the PS3 to drop in price. I showed him the first of the two Wii trailers from today's conference, and his reaction was immensely positive.

[daroga]

Just to annoy people...

NINTENDO STEALS CAPCOM'S GAMEPLAY IDEA IN METROID PRIME 3

Seriously, anyone who has played Resident Evil Gun Survivor 2 (its an import game) its the same damn thing basically. You move with the d-pad on the back of the light gun and use the lightgun to shoot. I have said it before and I say it again, the Wii controller isn't as "innovative" as people have been leading me to believe. Its still a cool thing though, but I'll wait until something truly innovative is done with it before I buy.

For clarity:
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8862/7g0eu.th.jpg (http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7g0eu.jpg)
The similarites between Light Gun games and the Wii things aren't improperly pointed out. My friend and I were talking today and figured that these were the games that people designing light gun games really would've wanted to make. It's really a blending of the obvious nature of the Light Gun games and the complexity of a console (or PC) FPS.

I can't wait to play it for myself.

[Purple Flames]

So this is fun.

A friend of mine at school is a die hard Sony guy. Loves his PS2, wants to get a PSP. Fine, whatever. We joke a kid around with each other. With E3, I had to be the one to break it to him that it was going to cost $600. Today he came into the lbirary where I was working asking if Wii was the same thing as the Revolution, because he was trying to comapre specs, beause price alone he might get a Wii while he waits for the PS3 to drop in price. I showed him the first of the two Wii trailers from today's conference, and his reaction was immensely positive.

If Reggie can get through to just ONE, then it was all worth it.

[crazytalkx]

ust bringing a little heat to the topic ;)

you know what.......fuck YOU!!!!
:lol:

I keed I keed, MGS 4 looks orgasmic but I'll wait for a price drop on the PS3 since my lack of an HDTV=lack of Blu-Ray hi def powah.

[whoknows]

you know what.......fuck YOU!!!!
:lol:

I keed I keed, MGS 4 looks orgasmic but I'll wait for a price drop on the PS3 since my lack of an HDTV=lack of Blu-Ray hi def powah.
Lol, yeah, I know MGS4 looks really awesome (and will be awesome, I can predict since its by Kojima) but I say I will get a PS3 at launch but I might end up ebaying it and rebuying it when MGS4/DMC4/Killzone 2 come out. Depends how I feel then about spending $500 :lol:

[Ikohn4ever]

two Wii Trailers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrF0U5laHtg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQiJLokuUSQ

[SpottedNigel]

http://press.nintendo.com/e32k6/index.html

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[daroga]

http://press.nintendo.com/e32k6/index.html

user: golin
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What are you trying to do, embark on my leetness by posting similar login credintials to what I posted a few hours ago!?!?!?!? HOW DARE YOU NOT SIFT THROUGH AN ENTIRE 25 PAGE THREAD TO SEE IF THE INFO YOU POSTED WAS ALREADY HERE!!!!111

Just kidding, thanks for the post! :)

[SpottedNigel]

:)

:P

I was at work. Shut-up.

moo

:)

Neat stuff though. Might have a few things to PS together to make some new desktops

[js1]

Dude, you've been trolling the Nintendo forums all day, if you don't like Nintendo then just leave. Here are some examples from his posts...

"Hmmm, i'm dissapointed in the standby time for the DS lite. My psp can go on a week in standby mode but the DS lite only seems to a few days =(."

Who needs a system to standby for an entire week?

"I just hope the game support doesn't end up like the gamecube. So far for the gamecube the only real game worth playing on the console was Smash Bros."

I guess Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4, Eternal Darkness, Super mario Sunshine, Viewtiful Joe, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario TTYD, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, F-Zero GX, and Pikmin all weren't good enough?

"The Mario game seems gimmicky and metroid prime has always been a mediocre..."

"2D Zelda, finally something worth getting interested about. I'll finally get a game to play on my DS lite..."

Yeah, you know, because the DS doesn't have any good games.

"oh i'm sorry, am I supposed to suck nintendo's cock too just cuz they show some clips of nostalgia? This reeks of fanboyism"

..Said during a casual conversation amongst gamers who were enjoying themselves, and not bashing, or even speaking about any other systems/brands.

"wow that was boring, he was just reading off marketing text. Nice move nintendo. Forcing people to get a seperate version so they will buy the Wii.

Forcing? Who's forcing? If you have a GCN, you can get the GCN version. If you have a Wii you can get the Wii version. How, in any way, is that force? Not to mention you can play the GCN version on the Wii if you CHOOSE to.

red steel might be the only decent game coming out due to appropriate use of the control scheme. minus the gangster style..."

He later bashed this game.

"oh wow Zelda will have the same crappy control scheme...... lame"

You mena the same crappy control setup that earned it 10 out of 10 on IGN for Zelda OOT? The same crappy controls that are known by many a gamer to be one of the best games of all time? Then yes, it's still there.

"Funny thing is if this was any other company you people would be bitching "Omg looks just like the Xbox" or "omg just like my ps2" "lol no nextgen graphics"

Did you forget Nintendo's charing $200-$300 less for their console than the other ones?

"Well this is purely fanboy so i'm out of this. Prob gonna still buy the Wii if it's cheap though. you people disgust me with that constant cock sucking"

Who's the fanboy again?

"playing on the margin" HAHA like all your damn Handhelds nintendo? But hey fanboys dont care"

Ha ha, you got me there! Mostly because you made zero sense.

"Mario is gay.."

nuff said.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[jkam]

Just to annoy people...

NINTENDO STEALS CAPCOM'S GAMEPLAY IDEA IN METROID PRIME 3

Seriously, anyone who has played Resident Evil Gun Survivor 2 (its an import game) its the same damn thing basically. You move with the d-pad on the back of the light gun and use the lightgun to shoot. I have said it before and I say it again, the Wii controller isn't as "innovative" as people have been leading me to believe. Its still a cool thing though, but I'll wait until something truly innovative is done with it before I buy.

For clarity:
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8862/7g0eu.th.jpg (http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7g0eu.jpg)

I'm anxiously awaiting DMC4 now just so you'll be busy playing that rather then posting this crap. We get it you like Sony. Ok all kidding aside if you watched the Red Steel demo you would see that the d-pad or left-handed analog stick is also represented with the use of motion. It is raised to block with the second sword. I don't think resident evil gun survivor 2 did that. I also don't think you could turn your hand to the side and handle the gun differently like in Red Steel.

Yeah its not innovative....at least to any of us....because we haven't played it. We can understand the concepts but none of us can say for sure if its truely innovative or not. I always equate things based on how much fun I'm having with them. So if I try a Wii and I'm having fun based on the new controls then its all good.

[SilverPaw750]

I must say, while Super Mario Galaxy looks orgasmically fun, Red Steel really did look like total shit. The graphics were bad, the movement was jerky and akward, the animations were terrible...unless they can really turn it around or it somehow has freaking amazing gameplay, then I'm not sold.

But why are people complaining about graphics? The graphics in Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, and Excite Truck were actually really good. There wasn't enough video of Project Hammer and no ingame of Disaster, so I cant judge those.

[whoknows]

I thought Disaster looked really cool...I like the whole natural disaster thing, and if its done right it could be awesome but...usually not. Remember Disaster Report for PS2? Those games just dont turn out very well, I still had some fun with it though...

[Broccoli Storm]

Maybe it was just the bad monitor I was watching the event on, but I didn't really notice a graphical upgrade for MP3 and Mario Galaxies looked pretty similar to Sunshine...not that I really care because they both look great and I'm sure, more importantly, they'll play great (and I know that the console's main focus is NOT graphics).

[Ikohn4ever]

http://press.nintendo.com/e32k6/index.html

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this is the shit, they have a pdf of all the Wii games in production as well as DS ones too. Also every one check out the Hotel Dusk trailer here, it looks badass for the DS

[RelentlessRolento]

Hotel Dusk seems to be very underated by most.

[basketkase543]

So it looks like you play Hotel Dusk by turning the DS vertically. That and the unique art style make the game look pretty interesting.

[mofo1115]

Overall I thought it was amazing, and my girlfriend actually agreed. We're both excited to get our hands on mario and zelda and even the wii sports game.

I'm kinda bummed out about having absolutely no information about smash though. Maybe I missed it...

[megaseadramon]

I'm very excited for Red Steel and H.A.M.M.E.R. Hammer looks really good and sounds really fun to play.

[Vegan]

this is the shit, they have a pdf of all the Wii games in production as well as DS ones too. Also every one check out the Hotel Dusk trailer here, it looks badass for the DS

They also have a neat PDF showing proper and improper uses of the Wii logo.

[seanr1221]

After watching those two Wii trailers...there's just something so damn charming about the Wii, I can't quite figure it out.

[Vegan]

After watching those two Wii trailers...there's just something so damn charming about the Wii, I can't quite figure it out.

Wii Wii, lol

[Rig]

Overall I thought it was amazing, and my girlfriend actually agreed. We're both excited to get our hands on mario and zelda and even the wii sports game.

I'm kinda bummed out about having absolutely no information about smash though. Maybe I missed it...

Nintendo didn't show a single thing...not even a movie. :cry:

That might be a bad sign, and I hope that's not the case.

[RelentlessRolento]

Nintendo didn't show a single thing...not even a movie. :cry:

That might be a bad sign, and I hope that's not the case.

SSBM has had so much life and still has it. The only possibly way it'll be dead is if it's not announced at next E3.

[Mattte]

Overall I thought it was amazing, and my girlfriend actually agreed. We're both excited to get our hands on mario and zelda and even the wii sports game.

I'm kinda bummed out about having absolutely no information about smash though. Maybe I missed it...


There was nothing on Pikmin 3 or even the new Miyamoto they talked about :(.

[Gameboy415]

I'm enthralled by 99% of the stuff announced (YOSHI'S ISLAND 2!?!? YES!!!!), but there's some major stuff missing here:

-SMASH BROS!?!? Supposed to be a launch game right? So.....where is it?!
-Virtual Console - Games/Prices/ANY INFO!?
-Does it play DVDs? Not a huge issue, but still something I'd like to know
-How will we charge the controllers?
-Other add-ons for the remote

Well E3 is JUST STARTING so maybe some stuff will be cleared up. Its already been said that DUCK HUNT for the Wii will be shown on Day 1 and there was NO mention of that at the conference. I just want to see ANYTHING on Smash Bros....

[botticus]

Well E3 is JUST STARTING so maybe some stuff will be cleared up. Its already been said that DUCK HUNT for the Wii will be shown on Day 1 and there was NO mention of that at the conference. I just want to see ANYTHING on Smash Bros....
You ask and are answered by evanft in the Wii forum: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93704

[evilmax17]

Kojima didn't show his Wii game, which is too bad. Elebits is a Konami game yes, but I don't think it's Kojima's specifically.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Duck Hunt better be a pack-in. Its not something you can charge a terrible lot for, I dont think.

[BREVITY]

So is there any reason to keep my Cube once I finnish a couple of games I missed? I got to finnish Skies of Arcadia and Paper Mario. I really didnt see anything that they talked about as comming to GC. I of course will pickup Zelda for Wii.

[encendido5]

So is there any reason to keep my Cube once I finnish a couple of games I missed? I got to finnish Skies of Arcadia and Paper Mario. I really didnt see anything that they talked about as comming to GC. I of course will pickup Zelda for Wii.

Why keep the Cube if you can play the games on the Wii? I don't know if you're into Monkey Ball, but Monkey Ball adventure has been announced on the Cube. Super Paper Mario also looks like a good upcoming GCN title.

[basketkase543]

Super Paper Mario also looks like a fucking awesome upcoming GCN title.


Corrected it for you :D

[Vegan]

24 hours later and I've probably read 200 complaints about Smash Brothers. Seriously, get over it. If that's the worst thing you have to complain about, be happy.

[BustaUppa]

So is there any reason to keep my Cube once I finnish a couple of games I missed? I got to finnish Skies of Arcadia and Paper Mario. I really didnt see anything that they talked about as comming to GC. I of course will pickup Zelda for Wii.Only practical reason I can think of to keep the Cube would be if you had the GBA player. Unless some kind of built-in GBA player is a secret unannounced feature on Wii.

[Apossum]

Nintendo didn't show a single thing...not even a movie. :cry:

That might be a bad sign, and I hope that's not the case.

I think they just have too much too show. I mean, they've showed so many good titles so far and the floor just opened. There's a chance they're saving the best for last.

[Mattte]

Theres an end of E3 conference usually isn't there?

[Rig]

Yes! Capcom announced they're making a Resident Evil for Wii! :D

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6150075.html

[pop311]

Did wii (ha ha) know anything about the Wii and it being Online?

[coltcannon]

Whoa! First Duck Hunt and then of course
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707077p1.html

I hope they use the light gun for RE Wii. Use the speaker to make scary noises while you cling to the light gun.
Peace
coltcannon

[basketkase543]

Whoa! First Duck Hunt and then of course
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707077p1.html

I hope they use the light gun for RE Wii. Use the speaker to make scary noises while you cling to the light gun.
Peace
coltcannon

NICE! :D :D :applause: :applause:

I guess the shells are back after all. I have to wonder, though, if a gun shell is even necessary considering how much the controller itself is gun-like. But if it ends up being as inexpensive as IGN hopes it'll be, I'll probably end up buying it.

[asianxcore]

I love you Nintendo.

Bringing back light gun games :) I hope they make it so it works with LCD TV's though. (if possible)

[evilmax17]

I love you Nintendo.

Bringing back light gun games :) I hope they make it so it works with LCD TV's though. (if possible)
It will. The Wii Remote bases it's movement on the sensor bar, not what's on the screen.

[botticus]

NICE! :D :D :applause: :applause:

I guess the shells are back after all. I have to wonder, though, if a gun shell is even necessary considering how much the controller itself is gun-like. But if it ends up being as inexpensive as IGN hopes it'll be, I'll probably end up buying it.
I have a feeling in this particular case, it's not so much the gun being necessary, but to make it feel like Duck Hunt.

And they can certainly make the gun necessary by not putting a cursor on the screen where the controller is pointing. Unless you can aim well from your hip, you'd need to sight it.

[Strell]

Are they going to let me paint it orange?

Cuz they better.

[ryanbph]

:applause: :applause: :applause: love the gun

[botticus]

Are they going to let me paint it orange?

Cuz they better.
It came in orange and in gray.

You're forgetting the more important question: Does the trigger have a loud metallic springy sound still? Or do I have to hack my NES lightgun to use on the Wii?

[Rig]

It came in orange and in gray.

The original ones were gray. They later moved to the orange because the gray ones looked "too realistic." :lol:

[shipwreck]

Screw Zapper, they should have gone with the SuperScope. :)

[Ecofreak]

Screw Zapper, they should have gone with the SuperScope. :)

Always wanted to try it, but my glasses made it too difficult to use. :-(

[pop311]

Does anyone know if the Wii will have to be positioned right in front of you, or if you can place it off to the right, left, etc.

[gofishn]

Doesn't matter where you place the main unit, there a sensor bar that you have to put in front of the TV

[SpottedNigel]

Cant wait to see the shotgun mods. Just seeing what people where doing on the Guitar Hero boards akes any controller seem ripe for modding.

[Ecofreak]

That's it - with the announcement of a new Super Smash Bros (with such additions as Solid Snake) I am declaring the Wii the official party machine of the next generation.

http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3389.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3387.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3388.jpg

Carboard box FT fucking W!!!

[RelentlessRolento]

That's it - with the announcement of a new Super Smash Bros (with such additions as Solid Snake) I am declaring the Wii the official party machine of the next generation.

http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3389.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3387.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3388.jpg

Carboard box FT fucking W!!!

no offense about SBB, but I really want to hear about all the virtual console stuff...

[SpottedNigel]

http://e3.nintendo.com/e3media.html
Time-lapse booth construction.

And Relentless, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo has more to say. By having bits and peices known/talked about each day it simply overshadows anything thier competitors do.

[Ecofreak]

http://e3.nintendo.com/e3media.html
Time-lapse booth construction.

Those videos are INSANE! I wonder how long it will take them to take everything down.

[whoknows]

SNAKE! SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEE!!!

Damn it...now I gotta buy a Wii :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

http://e3.nintendo.com/e3media.html
Time-lapse booth construction.

And Relentless, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo has more to say. By having bits and peices known/talked about each day it simply overshadows anything thier competitors do.

agreed. If I don't hearanything about it tonight, I'll be expecting it tommorow.

[botticus]

SNAKE! SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEE!!!

Damn it...now I gotta buy a Wii :lol:
The cardboard box owns you.

[whoknows]

The cardboard box owns you.
If smash bro's is a launch title I'll consider getting it on day 1...if not I may (and probably will) go for PS3...I honestly still cant decide.

[botticus]

If smash bro's is a launch title I'll consider getting it on day 1...if not I may (and probably will) go for PS3...I honestly still cant decide.
Not out till 07. But come on... 2 million PS3s at launch? You're not gonna get one till 07 anyway ;)

[whoknows]

Not out till 07. But come on... 2 million PS3s at launch? You're not gonna get one till 07 anyway ;)
Not if I pre-order...then again...that pre-order PS3 might go to oh..idk..ebay...depends on how I feel about spending that much money at that time.

If for some reason I cant get my hands on one then I may get a Wii...but MGS4 also comes out in 07. Do I want Snake or Snake? Hmmmm....

[daroga]

Phoenix Wright, Capcom Mini going up. Smash brothers will be up soon (~10 mins)

http://www.daroga.org/NintendoE3/

[Namelessloser]

^^ You are too awesome man

[gigan54]

^^ You are too awesome man

qft
without daroga, all of us here would have nothing to drool over. thanks!!:applause:

[daroga]

qft
without daroga, all of us here would have nothing to drool over. thanks!!:applause:
My pleasure.

Smash Bros. is online now. Sweet little movie. :)

Anyone seena Trauma Center vid up anywhere?

[Z-Saber]

The main reason I checked this thread again was to see if I could download the Smash Bros. trailer. And you delivered once again.

Thanks, daroga!

[botticus]

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3150688

The airplane game is not Pilotwings. Currently it's just a generic flying game that may or may not be included in the WiiSports package.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I'm on to their game now. They plan to have something available after hours to win E3 each day.

Mother 3 today?
Mario Kart tomorrow?
Pikmin?

[Snake2715]

Goodness smash bros looks great.

[evilmax17]

I'm on to their game now. They plan to have something available after hours to win E3 each day.

Mother 3 today?
Mario Kart tomorrow?
Pikmin?
I still can't believe we're 1.5 years into the DS's lifespan and there's been no talk of Smash Brothers DS. I strongly doubt there'll be anything about it at this E3, but I'm hoping for next.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Mother 3....with SNAKE!

[SpottedNigel]

I still can't believe we're 1.5 years into the DS's lifespan and there's been no talk of Smash Brothers DS. I strongly doubt there'll be anything about it at this E3, but I'm hoping for next.

If they dont announce anything at E3, I'm probably going to import Jump Superstars soon after

[daroga]

Uploading two huge MP3 and SMG movies, and 3 madden gameplay vids.