Microsoft E3 Conference Discussion - Halo 3, GTAIV, Live Anywhere, Lumines Live!

[shipwreck]

The last and probably least anticipated presentation this year (because they aren't introducing a new system) starts in a little over an hour. Talk about it here.

Live Video Feed: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/index.html

Live Text Feed: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64375

[rvdrock]

Not for me...bring it on!

[KaneRobot]

probably least anticipated presentation

Thanks for that.

After Sony's weak showing yesterday, the MS one just became the most interesting.

[Scorch]

Can't wait, I just hope they don't fill it with nothing but portable news stuff

Way to subtly incite a fanboy riot, Shipwreck

[guyver2077]

least anticipated presentation this year .


actually most anticipated for me

[shipwreck]

Thanks for that.

After Sony's weak showing yesterday, the MS one just became the most interesting.

No problem. I was just stating the obvious since they aren't releasing a new console this year. I'm looking forward to seeing what they are going to present though. I'm guessing there is going to be a lot of information about new Live features.

[RelentlessRolento]

I'm going to watch, but I really have no interest in anything unless they reveal Killer Instinct for 360 or something in that vein...

[graf1k]

While Nintendos showing was great, it didn't bowl me over with any "Holy shit I can't believe they just announced X" moments. Now that Sony is telling me that I need to sell my first born child on the black market to afford a PS3, I'm really hoping MS comes with the Oops Pow Surprise! shit.

[Scorch]

Oh, right.. aren't they supposed to show off Halo 3 today or something at the conference? A teaser trailer or something?

[Rei no Otaku]

Are we having another chat for this one?

[RelentlessRolento]

just to get the ball rolling on one of the few titles I actually care about on the 360:

DOAX2 Preview
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3150544

awsome to hear it's basicly a waverace with nice girls to look at :)

[Purkeynator]

I want to see their xbox branded ipod killer that has been rumored. I also want to see Halo3, xbox live upgrades, and larger hard drive sizes.

[KaneRobot]

Are we having another chat for this one?

I don't see why not. AIM chat room "cag". Don't think I can sneak in while I'm at work but I'll give it a shot.

[mykevermin]

I'd like to see some backwards compatibility announcements, but since all of the main presentations are "forward looking," my guess will be no.

On the plus side, didn't they say they were going to debut the look and price of the HD-DVD adapter?

[Zoglog]

I better not see those damn break dancer and asian stereotypical guy and hip to be a gamer crap again this year......... But since it's been in the last 2 press conferences I bet we won't be spared.

MS has so far been the worst offender....

[apokalipze2]

More games plz

[Zoglog]

yes more games.

Master chief = Jack bauer.

[RelentlessRolento]

yes more games.

Master chief = Jack bauer.


that's an overstatement...

it's more like:

Ryu Hyabusa = Jack Bauer

[Apossum]

No problem. I was just stating the obvious since they aren't releasing a new console this year. I'm looking forward to seeing what they are going to present though. I'm guessing there is going to be a lot of information about new Live features.


you were clearly acting against MS' best interests and this will not be forgotten. I will now PM you tons of viruses.

j.k.

anyway, no Ninja Gaiden 2 news this year unfortunately. A tasteless showing of XBV 2 is inevitable.

[Zoglog]

that's an overstatement...

it's more like:

Ryu Hyabusa = Jack Bauer

Heh in that aspect i'd go with

Ryu Hyabusa = Toshiro Mifune

[pdiscool]

Does anyone know of any sites doing the microsoft conference live?

[Zoglog]

gamespot

[ArthurDigbySellers]

I don't own an Xbox or Xbox 360 but I am interested in seeing what they are going to present. Sony's presentation was crap and Nintendo didn't give us enough information. Maybe Microsoft will shake it up.

[cdeener]

Does anyone know of any sites doing the microsoft conference live?

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/index.html

This is the link to gamespot E3 coverage and on the right side of the screen it will list the three companies and have a timer for the MS Conference.

[Rei no Otaku]

Does 1up have a live feed? That one was better than GS's.

[Tyga24]

Gamestop doesn't have a live feed of Microsoft's Pre-E3 press conference, they only have a taped one available after it's over. Does anyone know any sites that have a live broadcast of it?

[Rig]

Has it started? Gamespot has been fucked since yesterday, and I haven't been able to get to the videos via their page. Does anyone have the direct link that goes right to the video? That worked when Cheapy posted the Sony one yesterday...

[Rei no Otaku]

I don't think MS is having a live feed for theirs. No one has one.

[yops2k]

As far as I know, nobody has a live feed of the press conference. They'll all be tape delayed.

Also, the press conference already started with a demo of Gears of War.

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3blog.html?topic_id=24603247

[shipwreck]

Well, the Live Text feed is up: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64375

[shipwreck]

New Live Arcade Titles:

Pac-Man
Contra
Frogger
Galaga
Sonic The Hedgehog
Defender
Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting
Time Pilot
Ultra Mortal Kombat 3
Scramble
Dig-Dug
New Rally-X
Ms. Pac-Man
Paperboy

[KaneRobot]

God damn, I don't know how good the GoW preview was that they just showed, but the Gamespot write up sounded amazing.

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149698

[shipwreck]

Lumines Live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CAG 79]

Live Arcade best thing ever?

[shipwreck]

Fable 2

[KaneRobot]

Fable 2. Nice surprise (not a huge one, but welcome nontheless).

[Scorch]

Thanks for the fucking spoilers. Sucked the fun right out of watching the conference.

[shipwreck]

Don't read this thread if you don't want to know. I don't think I need to put spoiler tags on news.




Forza Motorsport 2 was just announced.

[Scorch]

Don't read this thread if you don't want to know. I don't think I need to put spoiler tags on news.

I do. Especially since so many were waiting to watch the video feed. Whatever. I guess you can do no wrong, since you're a moderator and all.

I'll just read the text feed.

[RedvsBlue]

New Live Arcade Titles:

Pac-Man
Contra
Frogger
Galaga
Sonic The Hedgehog
Defender
Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting
Time Pilot
Ultra Mortal Kombat 3
Scramble
Dig-Dug
New Rally-X
Ms. Pac-Man
Paperboy

Huzzah, CONTRA mother fucker!

Nintendo better have quite a bit available for download at launch for their virtual console because at this rate Live Arcade is gonna be HUGE by then.

[Scorch]

I wish that list was something beyond things that are on every compilation, though (besides Sonic, SF2, UMK3 and Contra).

Do we really need Dig-Dug, Pac-Man, Frogger, Galaga, Defender, Ms. Pac Man and Paperboy AGAIN?

[Roufuss]

Huzzah, CONTRA mother fucker!

Nintendo better have quite a bit available for download at launch for their virtual console because at this rate Live Arcade is gonna be HUGE by then.

Wasn't the arcade version of Contra not so great?

[shipwreck]

Wasn't the arcade version of Contra not so great?

It was awesome.

[ryanbph]

I wish that list was something beyond things that are on every compilation, though (besides Sonic, SF2, UMK3 and Contra).

Do we really need Dig-Dug, Pac-Man, Frogger, Galaga, Defender, Ms. Pac Man and Paperboy AGAIN?
No but they do keep selling, so someone is buying them

[RelentlessRolento]

don't know if I think Lumines is selling out or not:

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/DSC_2945.JPG

[shipwreck]

Viva Pinata time.

[RelentlessRolento]

better be some announcement of killer instinct >_<

[KaneRobot]

Holyyyy shit. XBox Live just paid for itself. Halo 3 trailer available BEFORE it's shown at E3?

Shove that up your fucking ass, Sony.

[Roufuss]

Viva Pinata time.

Which is apparently a title for kids, as Peter Moore put it.

[shipwreck]

Trade Pinatas over Live. Could be interesting.

Looks like they are going to try and make a killing on microtransations with DL's on this one.

Holiday 2006 release.

[Roufuss]

As many have noted, Viva Pinata appears to be very similar to Nintendo's Animal Crossing in concept. Moore doesn't miss a beat in reacting to the weak applause, "C'mon, it is an E-rated game, let's not forget here."



Ouch.

This is interesting too:



Pre-orders for Fight Night increased by over 5 times after the Fight Night demo was released.

[shipwreck]

Tonight, first time ever, you can download high-def TV content. Tonight's: "Gears of War: Road to E3". A docu-drama. Starts tonight, finishes next week on MTV.

meh

On to the HD-DVD player.

[RelentlessRolento]

please kill me, i don't want to hear any halo news...

[KaneRobot]

Gta 4!!!


Vista now. Why bother? I guess they have to, but this is a square peg in the round hole.

[shipwreck]

Grand Theft Auto IV, that's freaking huge to get that at least at the same time as Sony.

[Javery]

Lumines Live is going to be awesome!!!

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: gta IV... at least it's not halo

[Roufuss]

Gta 4!!!

October 17th, 2007... no mention if its exclusive or not, either.

[Radioactive_Man]

TCHBO

GTA 4 = Teh Casual market has been won by M$

[Zoglog]

that's a good catch. On a side the racing wheel, will it really be force feedback or just vibration?

[shipwreck]

October 17th, 2007... no mention if its exclusive or not, either.

Doesn't sound exclusive, but it will be out the same day for X360 as it is for PS3. Looks like they are working on exclusive download content though.

[KaneRobot]

October 17th, 2007... no mention if its exclusive or not, either.

I'm sure it won't be.

[RelentlessRolento]

baby 360s!

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3116.JPG

[shipwreck]

that's a good catch. On a side the racing wheel, will it really be force feedback or just vibration?

EuroGamer specifically wrote "Force Feedback", so that's probably what they said.

[jalu6]

GTA4 and $200 cheaper... sony must be crying.

[Roufuss]

Microsoft and Rockstar games have entered into an exclusive partnership to provide exclusive episodic content through Xbox Live.



What does this mean? The game is exclusive, or that the downloads themselves are exclusive?

[Radioactive_Man]

Doesn't sound exclusive, but it will be out the same day for X360 as it is for PS3. Looks like they are working on exclusive download content though.

The way Gamespot put it makes it seem like its only xbox 360.

12:22: "Major announcement about one of greatest franchsies of all time." Says its so exciting that he has to take his shirt off. Shows Halo 2 tatto--GRAND THEFT AUTO IV tatoo on other arm. Grand Theft Auto IV October 16 to Xbox 360 ONLY.

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149698

[KaneRobot]

12:26: Grand Theft Auto IV will be updated with regular fresh content, more details later. Crowd is stunned, gasps all around.

The Eurogamer one is quicker, but the Gamespot one rules because it's more descriptive.

[RelentlessRolento]

What does this mean? The game is exclusive, or that the downloads themselves are exclusive?


it's Live content exclusive only

[Blind the Thief]

Grand Theft Auto IV, that's freaking huge to get that at least at the same time as Sony.

Yeah, I'm surprised, particularly that they chose MS' conference to announce it.

[mykevermin]

So does Peter Moore still have the Halo 2 tattoo? What terrible, terrible ideas.

Walk down the hall and borrow a copy of PowerPoint. Can't be expensive, your fucking boss owns it.

EDIT: To be sure, Grand Theft Auto for next-gen *this year* is a huge deal. If it's 360 exclusive, look for fewer and fewer people to care about PS3. What exclusive franchises does it have left? Obviously, Squaresoft's alliance with MS for the 360 was nothing but a big ol' shit sangwich (FFXI?) since they showed no forthcoming 360 stuff. So, outside of MGS and Squaresoft, is there anything?

I demand Contra, Galaga, and Street Fighter II fucking NOW!?!?

How ironic, that the future of gaming may be determined by the availability of its past?

[KaneRobot]

I'm forgetting (for now) that I hate Peter Moore. The GTA IV reveal sounds like a hilarious way to swerve the audience.

[RelentlessRolento]

temporary tatoo

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3121.JPG

[shipwreck]

Enough of this Windows Vista stuff.

[RelentlessRolento]

Enough of this Windows Vista stuff.

enough M$.

[RelentlessRolento]

go here for updated pics...

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/engadget-and-joystiqs-live-coverage-of-microsofts-xbox-360-e3-ev/

[KaneRobot]

Now Shadowrun. They're hitting ever corner here, I can't wait to actually see the presentation.

[Roufuss]

Man... GTA 4 is still so long away, I wonder how many people will run out an buy a 360 ASAP for a game that is still a year and a half away from being released?

Wow, Microsoft is bringing Shadowrun to the PC as well, and is talking about joint releases? I may never need to buy one, at this rate.

[shipwreck]

Wow, Gates is there.

[KaneRobot]

Shut up Gates, you don't play PGR3.

[shipwreck]

"The future of gaming really involves software - better tools, better environments, being user-centric so you can find your friends, and use these games on any of the devices you have."

Is something big happening?

[gamerx0]

Alan Wake (developer: Remedy) exclusively for Xbox 360 and Windows.

[KaneRobot]

It looks like Gates is stalling. I'm sure it's the Halo 3 trailer, but they're doing a nice job of making them wait for it.

[RelentlessRolento]

Alan Wake (developer: Remedy) exclusively for Xbox 360 and Windows.

so if I'm windows vista owner, I'm pretty much a 360 owner?

[apokalipze2]

the halo3 trailer is availabe already on xbl marketplace. just saw it, good stuff

[shipwreck]

Live on Windows Vista. This is getting crazy.

[Roufuss]

so if I'm windows vista owner, I'm pretty much a 360 owner?

Pretty much, which works out awesome for me.

With both Shadowrun and Alan Wake hitting the PC, I'm losing my eagerness to buy a 360.

Apparently Rolento, you're even more right with this last announcement.

[spoo]

the halo3 trailer is availabe already on xbl marketplace. just saw it, good stuff
Thanks DL now

[RelentlessRolento]

I am just going to say I hate halo...

[KaneRobot]

I am just going to say I hate halo...

For the third time. We get it.

[RelentlessRolento]

For the third time. We get it.

:rofl: sorry, I just have too much hate for the series... didn't mean to over emphasize it...

looks more like I'll be upgrading my PC than getting a 360 since there's almsot no point now in me getting a 360.

[radjago]

Cross-platform Live Anywhere... Gamerscore through Vista.

Gamerscore whores of the world go nuts!

[shipwreck]

Live Anywhere - Vista, 360, Mobile

Looks like you can play X360 games versus people playing on Vista.

[radjago]

Marketplace and Arcade on Windows Mobile too.

[KaneRobot]

looks more like I'll be upgrading my PC than getting a 360 since there's almsot no point now in me getting a 360.

Point taken, but it's not like EVERY GAME is going to be on both platforms.

[CAG 79]

GS is showing the conference from the beginning now.

[the3rdkey]

Live Anywhere - Vista, 360, Mobile

Looks like you can play X360 games versus people playing on Vista.

Keyboard and mouse people will own the shit out of 360 controller users for FPS!!

[KaneRobot]

Although I'm getting a little weary of all the PC stuff, being able to buy it on XBLA and play it on your phone or PC IS pretty cool.

[spoo]

So MS now has a VMU type thing but instead of a VMU we use cell phones?

Live Anywhere will provide cross-platform possibilities. Just scratiching the surface of mobile gaming. "Start a game on Xbox, continue it on your phone. There are games that will work that way."

[RedvsBlue]

GTA IV as a 360 exclusive as well as Halo 3 obviously being exclusive means Microsoft has a VERY good shot at locking up the males 18-34 market. Sony has a very uphill battle in the US now.

[shipwreck]

It looks as though you can edit skins (and other things) in Vista and then transfer them back over to the 360 as well?

[radjago]

GS is showing the conference from the beginning now.
Link? Says 2:30PT for me.

[KaneRobot]

It looks as though you can edit skins (and other things) in Vista and then transfer them back over to the 360 as well?

That's what I gathered.

[shipwreck]

And finishing with Halo 3.

[Roufuss]

Live Anywhere is an interesting concept... I wonder if they can pull it off.

Can we assume Fable 2 will show up on the PC then? GTA 4?

MS seems to want to unite all three things (360, mobile phone, PC) into one kind of super entity.

[radjago]

GTA IV is not exclusive.

http://www.rockstargames.com/grandtheftauto4/

[CAG 79]

Link? Says 2:30PT for me.

Click the watch now on the video player. The Gears of War demo is awesome!

[RedvsBlue]

GTA IV is not exclusive.

http://www.rockstargames.com/grandtheftauto4/
Well now that's interesting...

[radjago]

Click the watch now on the video player. The Gears of War demo is awesome!
I keep getting a Subscriber screen.

[spoo]

GTA IV is not exclusive.

http://www.rockstargames.com/grandtheftauto4/

From Joystiq:

- Microsoft and Rockstar games have entered into an exclusive partnership to provide exclusive episodic content through Xbox Live. Moore is interrupted by applause after this announcement. The crowd was not expecting this, and is pumped to hear it.

[RelentlessRolento]

decent show for M$... nothing too huge really but decent overall

[me2evil13]

here's the link for halo 3. video. if its not already posted. http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/D158C5B2-697A-4F7E-95D5-DB7C36AAAB31/0/vidh3e32006hi.asx

[radjago]

From Joystiq:

- Microsoft and Rockstar games have entered into an exclusive partnership to provide exclusive episodic content through Xbox Live. Moore is interrupted by applause after this announcement. The crowd was not expecting this, and is pumped to hear it.
That's cool. I thought I heard something about that, but the boxed game will ship for both systems.

Halo 3 trailer available from bungie.net

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/b/3/5b3d8532-65bc-4bf6-b5ea-6ba0f2084d74/h3_e32006_announce_large.wmv

[Roufuss]

So... I wonder if they will do a joint release for Halo 3, on 360 and Vista? It wouldn't make sense for them not to, espically since the two will be so closely bound together now.

[CorporalJackson]

So... I wonder if they will do a joint release for Halo 3, on 360 and Vista? It wouldn't make sense for them not to, espically since the two will be so closely bound together now.
then they would lose money on the 360

[BustaUppa]

to what extent will the Live Arcade be integrated with Vista? My main motivation for considering the 360 was the upcoming Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 on Live. If I can just get UMK3 on Vista, and still play online with 360 users, I could save myself some cash!

[Rig]

Why did I get excited after seeing that Halo 3 trailer? I've hated both campaigns for the first two...but I'll still be picking it up for multiplayer, I guess.

[botticus]

then they would lose money on the 360
Yeah, my 360-owning friend and I were just discussing this. We figure they're going to have to stagger releases for PC versions of games, or the need for 360 purchases will really fall off.

[Roufuss]

then they would lose money on the 360

Um... how? Most people would rather buy a 360 anyways then upgrade their comp. Microsoft seems very intent on merging the PC and 360 worlds together, with common Marketplace, Live on Windows, 360 and PC people playing against each other, why would they then deny their one killer app to a new operating system they are trying their hardest to build?

It wouldn't surprise me if they did a joint release, because it would probably be a huge selling point for how Live Anywhere would work.

Oblivion still sold a ton for the 360, and that's while it was available on the PC as well.

I wouldn't buy a 360 for Halo 3, but would I buy it for the PC if it was available around the same time? I sure would. I would also play it on Live through Windows Vista.

I don't think the 360 sales for Prey and Shadowrun will be hurt either, because they hit the PC on the same exact day.

[radjago]

to what extent will the Live Arcade be integrated with Vista? My main motivation for considering the 360 was the upcoming Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 on Live. If I can just get UMK3 on Vista, and still play online with 360 users, I could save myself some cash!
I have no clue. The game they used as an example was Zuma. I'd assume not all the games will make it to every platform.

[shipwreck]

I'm somewhat anxious about this whole Vista & Xbox 360 marriage. I don't think it will cut into 360 sales at all though. People who want to play the game on a console will buy it for 360, people who want to play it on the PC will buy it for Vista.

It will definitely be interesting to see how Live Anywhere turns out.

[jer7583]

Sony just got it ass kicked all over the place by MS and Nintendo. I love this E3!!

[Javery]

If GTA4 is going to be a system seller, why would anyone buy the PS3 version knowing they will be missing out on the episodic content? Oh yeah, PS3 is also $600 :rofl:

[radjago]

If GTA4 is going to be a system seller, why would anyone buy the PS3 version knowing they will be missing out on the episodic content? Oh yeah, PS3 is also $600 :rofl:
GTA games have so much content already that only a small percentage of people that buy it actually finish it.

[trq]

Why did I get excited after seeing that Halo 3 trailer? I've hated both campaigns for the first two...but I'll still be picking it up for multiplayer, I guess.

Considering how much the trailer for Halo 2 differed from the final content, I'm going to keep my expectations a bit more subdued this time around.

However, I've been in an either/or kind of mood with the 360 and the PS3, and after the conferences, I think I'll be squeezing the trigger on the 360...

[shipwreck]

Okay, so by opening up Live to Vista and Mobile, Microsoft has effectively greatly increased the amount of people that could potentially subscribe to Live. This is going to be an opportunity for them to make a lot of money off of subscriptions.

Sorry... I'm still sorting through all the possibilities of this announcement.

[Blind the Thief]

Okay, so by opening up Live to Vista and Mobile, Microsoft has effectively greatly increased the amount of people that could potentially subscribe to Live. This is going to be an opportunity for them to make a lot of money off of subscriptions.

Sorry... I'm still sorting through all the possibilities of this announcement.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So far, seems like a smart move to me.


But seriously...that Halo 3 trailer? Boooring.

[Tyga24]

I believe Halo 2 was supposed to be launching on Vista. Highly unlikely MS will release Halo 3 on 360 & PC at the same time; just look at the amount of copies moved when Halo 2 was introduced, and imagine the number of 360's that will be sold thanks to that game. MS will do the same thing that they did with the rest of the games in the series: release it about 3 years later on the PC.

[Roufuss]

I believe Halo 2 was supposed to be launching on Vista. Highly unlikely MS will release Halo 3 on 360 & PC at the same time; just look at the amount of copies moved when Halo 2 was introduced, and imagine the number of 360's that will be sold thanks to that game. MS will do the same thing that they did with the rest of the games in the series: release it about 3 years later on the PC.

Then what is the point of integrating Live and Marketplace into Vista, if they are just going to hold back the best games for it? I really doubt they are taking this strategy.

As Shipwreck said, people who want it on 360 will get it there, and people who want it on PC will get it there. I don't think Halo 3 hitting the PC / 360 will take away 360 sales... people with a 360 aren't going to upgrade their PC, and people with shitty PC's (which there are many) are just going to buy a 360 and not deal with upgrading.

Only the tech heads will get it for PC... and to release it years later, when nobody cares (like Halo 2) won't do anything for the Live Anywhere cause on the PC side. They are just killing their own sales for the PC if they choose this route.

[KaneRobot]

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So far, seems like a smart move to me.


But seriously...that Halo 3 trailer? Boooring.

GTAIV was the show stealer here. The Halo 3 teaser was just the icing on the cake or the "overkill." It was pretty much what I expected.

[Tyga24]

Then what is the point of integrating Live and Marketplace into Vista, if they are just going to hold back the best games for it? I really doubt they are taking this strategy.

As Shipwreck said, people who want it on 360 will get it there, and people who want it on PC will get it there. I don't think Halo 3 hitting the PC / 360 will take away 360 sales... people with a 360 aren't going to upgrade their PC, and people with shitty PC's (which there are many) are just going to buy a 360 and not deal with upgrading.

Only the tech heads will get it for PC... and to release it years later, when nobody cares (like Halo 2) won't do anything for the Live Anywhere cause on the PC side. They are just killing their own sales for the PC if they choose this route.

You make some good points there Roufuss about those with the high end PC's going for Halo 3 but I don't understand why MS would push to bring Halo 2 to Vista only to release Halo 3 also. I don't think anybody would want Halo 2 and this time around Bungie is working on the port so you know MS put some money into the project. Here is a link to the article from GS a few months ago.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6143976.html

[CrimsonPaw]

GTAIV was the show stealer here.

And THUS why I will be purchasing a 360 at the next price drop. GTA IV exclusive ... Sony just got kicked in the nuts!!

[Roufuss]

And THUS why I will be purchasing a 360 at the next price drop. GTA IV exclusive ... Sony just got kicked in the nuts!!

But it's not exclusive.... just the downloadable Live content is.

By the time GTA 4 comes out the 360 might even go through a second price drop, since didn't they want one every year?

[swetooth9]

You make some good points there Roufuss about those with the high end PC's going for Halo 3 but I don't understand why MS would push to bring Halo 2 to Vista only to release Halo 3 also. I don't think anybody would want Halo 2 and this time around Bungie is working on the port so you know MS put some money into the project. Here is a link to the article from GS a few months ago.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6143976.html
i agree, i don't think they would release h2 and h3 for vista too close together; that would make h2 irrelevant, especially if h2 and h3 cost the same amount...

i think if they make h3 for the PC, they will bank on h3 being so popular on the 360 that when they release h3 on the PC, people would still be intersted in playing against 360 people so they would still generate fairly good sales for the PC version..

[help1]

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/b/3/5b3d8532-65bc-4bf6-b5ea-6ba0f2084d74/h3_e32006_announce_large.wmv

[Setzer]

GTA IV will NOT be a 360 exclusive. Where do you guys get this shit from? It will be released simutaneously for the 360 and PS3 in October of 2007.

[Scorch]

GTA4 and $200 cheaper... sony must be crying.

What is $200 cheaper?

[TC]

GTA IV will NOT be a 360 exclusive. Where do you guys get this shit from? It will be released simutaneously for the 360 and PS3 in October of 2007.

Yup, the downloadable content will be exclusive to 360 only. Damn thats going to be friggin sweet. I never expected this.

[erehwon]

To be honest, the only thing I was wanting to hear from Microsoft was a price drop for the Xbox.

[swetooth9]

What is $200 cheaper?

360 is 200 dollars cheaper than a ps3

[radjago]

To be honest, the only thing I was wanting to hear from Microsoft was a price drop for the Xbox.
I don't see that happening. Xbox is dead to them, short of back compat. They don't want to sink any more money into that sinking ship.

[sonicfreak5]

gamespot finally up!

[help1]

I don't see that happening. Xbox is dead to them, short of back compat. They don't want to sink any more money into that sinking ship.

Well, their NVIDIA contract or something is up... so tehy stopped making them.

[cdeener]

Well, their NVIDIA contract or something is up... so tehy stopped making them.

You are correct they haven't been in production for a few months now.

[Kaijufan]

I just finished watching the Microsoft press conference. It was ok, much better then Sony but not nearly as good as Nintendo. Gears of Wars looks great, Fable 2 could be good (I hope it's less linear and longer then Fable 1).
Having Xbox Live on Windows is a good idea, but is it Vista only?
The Halo 3 trailer was really boring.

[mmn]

I just finished watching the Microsoft press conference. It was ok, much better then Sony but not nearly as good as Nintendo. Gears of Wars looks great, Fable 2 could be good (I hope it's less linear and longer then Fable 1).
Having Xbox Live on Windows is a good idea, but is it Vista only?
The Halo 3 trailer was really boring.

Yeah, Vista only.

And the Halo 3 trailer was fine. Its just the announcement of the game. It doesnt even come out until sometime in 2007, so we'll be seeing actual gameplay at next year's E3.

I think Nintendo kind of won by default this year, since Sony really bombed and MS didn't have a new machine to hype up.

[XboxHardcore.com]

GTA IV as a 360 exclusive as well as Halo 3 obviously being exclusive means Microsoft has a VERY good shot at locking up the males 18-34 market. Sony has a very uphill battle in the US now.

GTA IV is not a 360 exclusive. It just means 360 is getting 360 the same day as the other guys instead of having to wait 6+ months.

[ryanbph]

no it isn't exclusive, but bonus content/storyline is exclusive according to msft.

[Kendal]

Yawn, until Live Anywhere. That was actually pretty cool. I also wish that fake tattoo is real and they change the name to GTA something else. Please do not give Bill Gates air time. True Episodic Content. What a fucking joke.

[RedvsBlue]

GTA IV is not a 360 exclusive. It just means 360 is getting 360 the same day as the other guys instead of having to wait 6+ months.

Yeah at one point this afternoon Gamespot had posted the news as GTA IV being 360 exclusive. It didn't last long though.

Either way, its one less thing the PS3 can hold over the 360.

[Cth]

If it's released on Oct 16th, it'll be exclusive until the other consoles debut.

Didn't they say late November/early Dec on the PS3?

[Javery]

If it's released on Oct 16th, it'll be exclusive until the other consoles debut.

Didn't they say late November/early Dec on the PS3?

October 2007. The PS3 *should* be out by then...

[vherub]

Was there any mention made towards backwards compatibility?

[shipwreck]

Was there any mention made towards backwards compatibility?

No.