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yester
05-10-2006, 03:21 PM
Which company do you think will vanish during the console war?

Dr Mario Kart
05-10-2006, 03:22 PM
who says they have to. The industry might just be able to support 3 major hardware players, despite what non-gaming motives some companies may or may not have.

klwillis45
05-10-2006, 03:25 PM
FADE...FADE...and no one is leaving anytime soon

yester
05-10-2006, 03:25 PM
who says they have to. The industry might just be able to support 3 major hardware players, despite what non-gaming motives some companies may or may not have.

I believe that in this console war, we may see a company to depart. Sony might, if it fails with the PS3.
Of course, that is just a assumption, but it might be interessting, what everbody thinks about that.

Scorch
05-10-2006, 03:26 PM
I voted for Sony. If they continue 3DO'ing it up, they'll go belly up within 10 years.

Of course, this will never happen.

botticus
05-10-2006, 03:27 PM
Hmm... during this generation? Neither.

If the Wii doesn't do well, then eventually Nintendo may, but that would be a long time from now or a voluntary decision given their cash reserves.

If the PS3 and 360 can't do more to differentiate themselves from each other next generation (they're fine now, but they're moving closer and closer), one of them will probably hang it up, probably Sony with their ginormous price tag.

In short, this generation: nobody. Next generation or two, I don't know.

Puzznic
05-10-2006, 03:34 PM
Nobody is going to fade away but I think Sony is going to lose more market share than the other two.

Zoglog
05-10-2006, 03:39 PM
NONE OF THE ABOVE, flawed poll =p

BustaUppa
05-10-2006, 03:40 PM
I don't think it will "vanish," but I just get this feeling of an impending trainwreck for Sony. Their wreckless, reactionary business decisions are gonna end up costing them big-time. And I still don't understand why they made that "PSX" thing in Japan... did anything significant ever come of that?

Greetard
05-10-2006, 03:55 PM
I believe that they're going to take turns for the lead from now on:


Every generation leading up to last was Nintendo.
Last generation was Sony.
This generation will probably be Microsoft, despite how much I love Nintendo. More new gamers will be attracted to the cheaper PS3 that doesn't require a wierd controller to play. At least, that's what the knee-jerk reaction is from most non-gamers I've talked to.
Once the rest of the world starts to get into gaming, they'll eventually get tired of the repeativeness that we endure, and they'll start to flock to Nintendo for innovation. Nintendo will hold the title again next generation.


No one will fade.

Lieutenant Dan
05-10-2006, 03:56 PM
Say what you want about the prices, but Xbox and Playstation are playing it safe with the hardware. What has worked in the past few generations will probably work this time (better technology for each gen). I don't think it's possible that either are going to make their company go belly up.

While I'm getting more excited about the Wii as the days go by, I think everyone has to admit that nintendo is taking the biggest risk with this new techonology. With innovation usually comes risk. What happens if it isn't the best thing to happen to gaming since the NES? Nintendo will be stuck with a system with the weakest graphics and iffy technology.

Of course, I don't think this will happen, but it's possible. Even though the 360 could be the new Dreamcast and the PS3 could be the next Saturn, I think with all the variables in Nintendo's plan, they would be the most likely to go belly up (plus their last two systems weren't as successful as the rest). Sony and Microsoft could take a big hit this generation and still make it out okay, Nintendo: not necessarily.

Something else I've noticed about these new games, and something Nintendo has said, is that they all seem to be for mainstream gamers. I'd bet that the majority of gamers on this board aren't going to be as happy playing games that require the skill of old people or little kids as they would be playing some of the more advanced titles on other systems. Of course there will be games on the Wii that will be intricate and take a lot of skill, but the majority are said to be for the mainstream, and in my eyes, that seems to suggest they will be dumbed down.

I think all three will be successful. If I had to pick though, I'd pick Nintendo for those reasons.

terribledeli
05-10-2006, 04:01 PM
I'm predicting Cyberdyne will be the only company around after the war.

Snake2715
05-10-2006, 04:07 PM
Say what you want about the prices, but Xbox and Playstation are playing it safe with the hardware. What has worked in the past few generations will probably work this time (better technology for each gen). I don't think it's possible that either are going to make their company go belly up.

While I'm getting more excited about the Wii as the days go by, I think everyone has to admit that nintendo is taking the biggest risk with this new techonology. With innovation usually comes risk. What happens if it isn't the best thing to happen to gaming since the NES? Nintendo will be stuck with a system with the weakest graphics and iffy technology.

Of course, I don't think this will happen, but it's possible. Even though the 360 could be the new Dreamcast and the PS3 could be the next Saturn, I think with all the variables in Nintendo's plan, they would be the most likely to go belly up (plus their last two systems weren't as successful as the rest). Sony and Microsoft could take a big hit this generation and still make it out okay, Nintendo: not necessarily.

Something else I've noticed about these new games, and something Nintendo has said, is that they all seem to be for mainstream gamers. I'd bet that the majority of gamers on this board aren't going to be as happy playing games that require the skill of old people or little kids as they would be playing some of the more advanced titles on other systems. Of course there will be games on the Wii that will be intricate and take a lot of skill, but the majority are said to be for the mainstream, and in my eyes, that seems to suggest they will be dumbed down.

I think all three will be successful. If I had to pick though, I'd pick Nintendo for those reasons.

The only thing I can say is even if it is less complicated that doesnt directly relate to what is less fun or addictive. I have gamed for 24 years (since I was 3) and I am really really bored with what is popular now. I was playing FPS in the early 90's and its been 16 years and they are hitting their peak of popularity.. but for me its old news and been there done that no matter how pretty it gets.

Anyway.

javeryh
05-10-2006, 04:09 PM
No one is going anywhere. If we are talking about market share, I think there is going to be a bit of evening out among the big three but Nintendo will continue to dominate the portable market...

P.S. It's better to burn out!!!

wubb
05-10-2006, 04:09 PM
I believe that they're going to take turns for the lead from now on:


Every generation leading up to last was Nintendo.
Last generation was Sony.



Sony dominated with both the PSX and the PS2, that's the last two generations.

Nintendo dominated with the NES (albeit for an interval longer than your typical gen these days) and was neck and neck in the US with the SNES vs. Genny. (If we're defining 'winner' by number of consoles sold.)

Anyway, I voted for all 3. Yay!!!

vherub
05-10-2006, 04:30 PM
If the Bluray technology fails, and fails miserably, to the point where it drags the PS3 down, then Sony will be in some trouble. Whether their restructuring will right the other divisions remains to be seen, but the PS has become the flagship of the company and I would imagine Sony does not leave this fight easily.

MS does not need the Xbox, it is not their main priority and yet they are convinced it can be a great chip in the overall industry as well as whatever convergence looms large. Their track record show they stay at something, offering upgrade after upgrade until they dominate. So there probably will be Xbox x.0xx for the near future, but they have abandonded other efforts when they did not pan out.

Nintendo has the handheld market, but was the cube profitable? And they seem to be pulling out all the stops with Wii. So if that fails to take root with gamers, where else can they go?

Like the shallowest of RPG bosses, each have weaknesses, personally, I think Bluray may be Sony's undoing.

freestyledust77
05-10-2006, 04:38 PM
It is going to take more than one generation of failure to knock anyone out. Sega failed w/ the 32x, cd, saturn, and the dreamcast before they stepped down. And nintendo is the only one that completly relies on video games. sony and MS have tons of other things to make them money. And look how long atari fought after they were loosing money, for several years. and sega and atari did not have the money that the current three have.

BustaUppa
05-10-2006, 04:45 PM
Like the shallowest of RPG bosses, each have weaknesses, personally, I think Bluray may be Sony's undoing.I agree. Blu-Ray, UMD, Memory Stick... Sony gets way to occupied with pushing its own formats. If they quit trying to take over the world and just focused on their gaming interests, the PS3 would be in much better shape. While Sony goes on its format crusade, Microsoft is just chilling out and focusing on the online experience, something that can actually make the games better. And yeah, they are pushing Vista on people, but that's pretty much a winning battle since most windows users will end up upgrading at some point (and would have before Xbox Live was even part of the equation).

depascal22
05-10-2006, 04:48 PM
The Gamecube was very very profitable. The fact that they sold the Cube for such a low price and still turned a profit shows not only that Nintendo understood exactly what they wanted to but how strong the game market really is.

Microsoft has enough money to stick around for another couple generations regardless of actual success in the market.

Sony is interesting because they're quickly going from mainstream to a niche hardcore market. The PS3 will sell out but it's hard to imagine it'll push as many units as the PS2 with a $500-$600 price tag.


There should be no problem for the world to support 3 consoles. Soon enough, there might even be enough growth to support 4 but I don't know who the hell will try to go up against the Big 3.

Greetard
05-10-2006, 04:51 PM
Sony dominated with both the PSX and the PS2, that's the last two generations.

Nintendo dominated with the NES (albeit for an interval longer than your typical gen these days) and was neck and neck in the US with the SNES vs. Genny. (If we're defining 'winner' by number of consoles sold.)

Anyway, I voted for all 3. Yay!!!

I was always under the impression that the SNES blew the Genesis out of the water, and I completely forgot about the N64-PS1 era. My bad.

asianxcore
05-10-2006, 04:54 PM
No one will be fading away.

But I think Sony is the company to be most worried about. Though I don't think people will shy against it because of it's price tag, there will be those who go towards Xbox or Nintendo because of a lower price tag (more casual gamers). Also as others have said, if Blu-Ray doesn't work out and ends up being a failed format, that could be a problem as well. Is Blu-Ray essentially better than HD-DVD? Halo 3 and a cheaper price tag may get new buyers excited about the 360. Also many people who were not excited about Nintendo's new system are really anticipating it's release after the conference at E3. It's nice to see there are still people out there who want next-gen to change how they actually play games and not how games actually look. Fun for all, not for just those with high-end TVs.

Sony is pretty lucky though to have Metal Gear Solid 4 and an exclusive. Damn.

tyecko
05-10-2006, 04:58 PM
I believe that they're going to take turns for the lead from now on:


Every generation leading up to last was Nintendo.
Last generation was Sony.
This generation will probably be Microsoft, despite how much I love Nintendo. More new gamers will be attracted to the cheaper PS3 that doesn't require a wierd controller to play. At least, that's what the knee-jerk reaction is from most non-gamers I've talked to.
Once the rest of the world starts to get into gaming, they'll eventually get tired of the repeativeness that we endure, and they'll start to flock to Nintendo for innovation. Nintendo will hold the title again next generation.


No one will fade.

Oh man you are SO wrong, the PS3 is definetly not cheaper than the Wii, try $500 for a 20GB PS3 and $600 for a 60GB and only $200 for Wii.

wubb
05-10-2006, 04:59 PM
I was always under the impression that the SNES blew the Genesis out of the water, and I completely forgot about the N64-PS1 era. My bad.

That's what I always thought as well, but it's been discussed here in the past and apparently the Genny actually had sold more units overall than the SNES in the US at times. Worldwide I think the SNES did win, but it wasn't nearly as dominating as the winner of any of the other recent gens. (NES, PSX, and PS2.)

Oh man you are SO wrong, the PS3 is definetly not cheaper than the Wii, try $500 for a 20GB PS3 and $600 for a 60GB and only $200 for Wii.

I think he meant people will see the 360 as 'the cheaper PS3.' I had to read it a time or two before sussing that out myself.

Tyga24
05-10-2006, 05:07 PM
You should've added a choice for no one fading away. I think Sony will lose some market share with the PS3 and MS will gain on them somewhat. Sony and MS are huge companies that gaming isn't even the top priority for each company (although with all of the Blu-Ray tech and how much money Sony made off of the PS2 I'm wondering if they are rethinking that), so they have more than enough finances to stay in the gaming sector for the long haul (if they choose to). Unfortunately for Nintendo, like Sega and Atari before them, they are solely dedicated to the gaming market. Without any outside assests apart from gaming, Nintendo needs to make a nice profit and increase on this console and any other products (the DS has done great, but as the games for the PSP improve people are going to begin buying the system). they currently have on the market, or they could be the one to rethink their mindset. I don't think anyone is out this generation, but if consumers don't come back to the Nintendo brand, it's sad to say, but they may be in trouble.

$hady
05-10-2006, 05:23 PM
They wont fade away to nothing but the next generation losers will be Sony and their Ultimate fanboy system.

defiance_17
05-10-2006, 05:44 PM
After the press conferences, I was completely turned off by the PS3. Yeah, MGS4 and FFXIII look awesome, but not that awesome. Hopefully the technology will advance rapidly, and they can get it down to $399 or so relatively quickly.

I really think the Wii is going to catch on like wildfire, although it will take awhile for the casual market to accept it (similar to the DS). Across the board, the games they're announcing look incredible.

As far as Microsoft...save a few titles, nothing on the original Xbox interested me enough to justify a purchase. So far it's been more of the same with the 360. Sports + FPS - no exclusive "console" RPGs = meh. I'm waiting anxiously on more Blue Dragon information, however.

At this point, I'd say the race is completely up for grabs. Microsoft has had some success lately, and they're doing a nice job of knocking a little of the wind out of Sony, but I really think they need to try a little harder to gain some ground in the Japanese market.
Sony's third party support and brand recognition should be able to carry them at least until they can get the PS3 down to a more "reasonable" price. I think they are really going to have to step up, and soon, or they're going to be in serious trouble (but not this generation). As great as they are, people are getting sick of all the uninspired sequels.
I really like what Nintendo is doing--I thought their conference was great, and they've been doing an excellent job of generating some buzz lately ("Wait, Duck Hunt? Like the Duck Hunt?!"). Hopefully the Wii can manage to please everyone, and not scare off the "hardcore" crowd by over-appealing to the casual/non-gamer.

ryanbph
05-10-2006, 06:17 PM
I don't think anyone will be forced out of the market this or next gen. But I think it is possible a company could sell themselves/or a gaming division to a competitor.

xbox 360 does have console specific rpg's...the 2 from japan, as well as the bioware one, mass effect. I like the wii's setup, but I still really question how much 3rd party support they will get a couple years from now. I also hear all there talk about getting non gamers to play, but I have yet to see a non gamer have any interest in the DS from my interactions. Yes the DS is selling great, but couldn't that be going nintendo fans. Yes the brain game has sold well, but I hear more gamers talk about it, then my non gaming friends. Granted, I am going to be giving my grandmother my ds, and ger her the brain age game.

whoknows
05-10-2006, 06:28 PM
No company is going to fade away. I'm pretty sure this topic was made due to the PS3 price.

Photomotoz
05-10-2006, 07:14 PM
I am quite sure that all three will survive to the next generation. Although Nintendo does not look so good now they are giving new ideas(DS, Wii) a try and I think it will pay off. Microsoft has so much funding that there is very little chance anything will happen and if it does, money will fix it. Sony has a huge fanbase and I think that if people will not buy the PS3 at the current cost, over the course of it's life, more and more people will buy it due to price drops. It will take time but the PS3 will have a huge player base.

P.S. Sega's coming back, fo realzz

Kayden
05-10-2006, 07:30 PM
If anyone would loose out this gen it's going to be MS. The widespread rings of doom launch and its aftermath really aren't winning many fans. However, a lot of MS's fan base are (my perception at least) the brainless Madden/Halo fans- your teens/young adults that get hings just because 'they be phat'. Stupidity is a userbase that never shrinks. The library doesn't offer much beyond Ninja Gaiden. Everything else worth while is available either on another console or the PC.

Then theres Nintendo. They own probably 80% of the handheld market. Thats not going anywhere for a long time. Revolution is hard to speculate about. A lot of people scoffed at the DS and now they swear by it. Nintendo
has been around for over 100 years. More than 20 has been in the videogame industry. Additionally, they have first party IPs that other companies can only fantasize about. N is going nowhere for a very long time.

Sony has had the lion's share of the market since they entered the console arena. They were given a significant head start by FF7 and other FMV games along with the poor pricing of Sega's Saturn. That could have just been attributed to luck for the PS1, but Sony continued to dominate the next generation with its massive and varied library with both great first and third party series. Undoubtedly the most arrogant company, however, its not like its without cause.

I'd say the breakdown of the console market is probably 50% Sony, 30% Nintendo and 20% Microsoft. If all three consoles were going strait DVD, I'd pick Sony to once again be the winner. Last gen Microsoft was more powerful graphically and the GC was more user/coder friendly and cheaper than both by $100 and Sony still won hands down. This time around, Sony is set to be the number one in power, but also in price. Part of Sega's problem with the Saturn is how gravely they were undercut by the PS1. The 599 price point will most definitely cost Sony support this time around, but its hard to say to what extent. The PS2 did a lot for DVD acceptance. However, Sony isn't known for its proprietory formats. Personally, I think its a bit soon for a new standard format. Laserdisc jumped the gun and got burned. People just werent ready to update their VHS libraries. Hell, there are still movies you can't get on DVD yet. Its much too soon for Blueray or HDDVD. This too will be a possible chink in Sony's armor. However, if theres one thing that Sony does have going for it, it's its massive library. Japanese friendly and RPG heavy, the games Sony has in its deck are plentiful and diverse. It only took Halo to sell the Xbox. Sony has Kratos, Dante, Jak, Rachet, Final Fantasy, Suikoden... the list of exclusives is long and distinguised.


No matter what your preference, this generation is going to be very rewarding. When three companies so powerful go head to head, the true winner will always be the consumer. Personally, I'm going to preorder a PS3 the first day I can as I look forward to the continued support of the great RPG and action catalog Sony has been sporting for the past 10 years.

Vinny
05-10-2006, 07:38 PM
I doubt any of them will go fade away...

But Sony stands to lose the most out of all three. Not only do they have a new new format but a new processor as well. And if that wasn't bad enough, they've spent millions on development of the PSP, PS3, Blu-Ray, and Cell. And even worse, I hear they have some outstanding debts and all of their departments have now posted losses (yes, even their once highly profitable gaming department which took a hit due to the PSP/PS3 development costs).

But they're not going anywhere fast...

yester
05-10-2006, 08:52 PM
Hi,

ok, i should have added another choice for the vote.

I am not really assuming that at the beginning, one of the competitors will go out of the run, but i am assuming that over the long run we might see changes which may lead to a drawback.

In Microsoft's case the plans seems to be clear.
Online-gaming is one of their main domain they want to control and its getting clear that either platform (Pc&Xbox) will be bound together.
Another blow towards Sony is the announcement of GTA4 to the Xbox360.
One of the popular mainstream games Sony had to over.

Nintendo attracts for sure also gamers with their redesign of the gaming experience in the whole.
Their joystick (remote) will have sensors, speaker and rumble feature.

I think Microsoft did indeed approach the question more wisely, not to include a HD-DVD drive in the first place.
Sony is poised to include their Blue ray drive and nobody knows if people will adapt it and if people are willing to spend a lot of money for that kind of feature. Plus, i am still not convinced if we really get what Sony promises on the specs.

I don't think that Blue-ray will be, what DVD was to the masses at the time of arrival.

Also Sony is surly a big co-operation, but their only cash cow is the Playstation. TV and DVD don't contribute to their profits, the Playstation does.

The point is, i think Sony is the company what has the most to lose in this battle.

Not to forget the price tag on the console. As far as Europe, people over there are not that crazy to spend 400-500 Euro's on a console, due the fact that the money is relatively tight anyway.

In the end, i am just curious and critically. Maybe nothing will change. The future will tell.

onikage
05-10-2006, 08:56 PM
If one of them had to go I would hope and expect it to be Microsoft. Nintendo isn't going anywhere, if anything I think they will take the lead during the upcoming generation.

graf1k
05-11-2006, 10:23 AM
If it's anybody, I think it'll be Sony. It PS3 fails, Sony is in trouble as a company, Wii can't do anything but be good for Nintendo, especially if they keep their history of selling the system at a profit. If Xbox 360 fails, Microsoft as a company can still eat it and probably not even notice. Then again, if Microsoft doesn't make any headway against Sony, they might just give up on consoles and stick to PC gaming.

Personally I think they all are going to be around next cycle.

wageslave
05-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Looking into my crystal ball...

I think the console market share will go something like: 40% / 31% / 29%

I say MS wins this generation of consoles but by a slim margain - and only because they launched first and PS3 is $100 more. Nintendo and Sony grab nearly equal amounts of market share in the console market, but Nintendo takes 70% of the portable market and Mario kicks ass. PSP Will have a following of gamers, but not like the DS and will continue to be as much a gadget as it is a gaming device. Sony will have to match the price of the Xbox 360 a year after launch. I think we've reached parity and there is something for everybody. PS3 for the hard core gamer, Xbox 360 for the online gamer, and Nintendo for the casual and retro gamers. It's a good time to be a gamer, folks!!!

In the end, I think MS will stay because they have the money and resources. Nintendo stays because of it's loyal fanbase, innovation, and Risk Taking. Sony stays because people will buy anything called "playstation" - including myself who just got a PS2 BTW.

Dr Mario Kart
05-11-2006, 11:44 AM
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7282/quickpoll9fc.jpg

Sony lost to Microsoft IN JAPAN

C O N S O L E P A R A D O X

jpuma1
05-11-2006, 11:50 AM
I don't think anyone will be forced out. I think there's room for 3 companies, esp. since only two of them (PS3 and 360) are really competing head to head. Nintendo is attempting to distance themselves from that war and create a different category of gaming altogether.

With Sony's price, I think they've just completely opened the door for Microsoft to grab dominant market share. This will cement there place as a legitimate gaming force (at least in the US, anyway).

PS3 for the hard core gamer, Xbox 360 for the online gamer, and Nintendo for the casual and retro gamers.

Just a little amendment to the above. I'd hardly call the PS3 for the hardcore gamer. I really think I'd reserve that title for a Nintendo owner, Gamecube and Wii. If you wanted to categorize gamers, it'd have to be

360 (Mainstream) > PS3 (middle of the road, caters to both types) > Nintendo (supremely hardcore)

KaneRobot
05-11-2006, 02:43 PM
None. Nintendo will be in bad shape if the controller flops, and Sony will be in trouble if Blu-Ray loses out to HD-DVD...but neither will vanish in this round or the next.

360 (Mainstream) > PS3 (middle of the road, caters to both types) > Nintendo (supremely hardcore)

I'm just curious as to how you came up with that. I'm not saying you're wrong, but MS has struck me a lot more as the "middle of the road" console than Sony.

Sony has the brand name, the lead, and is content to stay on course as they have been with upgrades only in the areas that they feel are necessary. MS takes conservative risks to expand their platform, but never something that could/would wind up detrimental to them. Nintendo is throwing part of the accepted strategy completely out the window and risking a lot to try to become the new industry leader.

jpuma1
05-11-2006, 02:56 PM
I'm just curious as to how you came up with that. I'm not saying you're wrong, but MS has struck me a lot more as the "middle of the road" console than Sony.

I try to look at it in terms of broad game appeal. You could switch MS and Sony and still be somewhat right, but my theory is that Sony has a lot more niche games, which moves it more towards the center. Sony has a wealth of hardcore RPG franchises, the Disgaea's, Wild Arms, Star Oceans, Grandias. These are games that take a lot of time and effort to play. Add in all the platformers it has (cutesy platformers, like R&C, Jak, which you must admit, has become more of a hardcore genre when compared to mass appeal games like God of War, Prince of Persia)

To me, the XBox only really has Halo and sports games. the 360 may be trying to change that, but as of now, to me it stands as the least harcore gaming system. Especially since it's the newest gaming franchise. The new kid on the block will always be seen as the "flavor of the week" until they can prove otherwise.

Nintendo just amazes me with it's hardcore-ness because it just does whatever the hell it wants. Plus, no one fucks with grandpa. Grandpas will always be hardcore. :lol:

JSweeney
05-11-2006, 04:30 PM
The only one I could see that it would be possible that they leave the market would be Microsoft, but that would only be if outside forces (Apple, Google, etc) started attacking it's core business, and the entire devision was seen as a drain by management and shareholders. Of course, I don't think that will happen.

javeryh
05-11-2006, 05:14 PM
The only one I could see that it would be possible that they leave the market would be Microsoft, but that would only be if outside forces (Apple, Google, etc) started attacking it's core business, and the entire devision was seen as a drain by management and shareholders. Of course, I don't think that will happen.

That's an excellent point and something that's not totally out of the realm of possibility if MS cannot break even (or show substantial improvement) this generation.

CappyCobra
05-11-2006, 10:32 PM
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7282/quickpoll9fc.jpg

Sony lost to Microsoft IN JAPAN

C O N S O L E P A R A D O X
ROFL! Wonder if any of the Sony executives are performing Seppuku for thier shameful showing :-P

CappyCobra
05-11-2006, 10:49 PM
Easy Killer! The 'ring of death' is a blackeye for the launch no doubt, but there are others that have been imfamous for that (Looking at you Sony). The production issues have been ironed out for the most part and will continue to improved when they step down to the 65nm process.

As for appealing to the mainstream market, thats what the market forces have called for in recent times. Back when gaming was more niche in the '80s, more niche games could be had. After PS1, mainstream market has outgrown the niche.

Hopefully, the Wii's intial 'gimmickyness' will wear off and eventually grow on them as a viable controller. I think the market can support 3 players, but Sony will definatly be losing the most ground with both MS and Nintendo closing the gap

If anyone would loose out this gen it's going to be MS. The widespread rings of doom launch and its aftermath really aren't winning many fans. However, a lot of MS's fan base are (my perception at least) the brainless Madden/Halo fans- your teens/young adults that get hings just because 'they be phat'. Stupidity is a userbase that never shrinks. The library doesn't offer much beyond Ninja Gaiden. Everything else worth while is available either on another console or the PC....

DisturbedZen
05-11-2006, 11:27 PM
Wow, I'm shocked at the results, I voted for Sony because of their pricing.

But wow, Sony is @66% at the moment. Wii looks like a success or a bust.

DomLando
05-11-2006, 11:32 PM
I don't think any will vanish anytime soon. I haven't read to the whole thread so I'll just give my quick opinion. The industry right now is healthy enough to have all three companies succeed. The two that are really competing are Microsoft and Sony. Nintendo does there own thing really and is aiming in a diffrent direction. Eventually Sony or Microsoft will vanish. But not anytime soon. I think Nintendo is headed towards the top again. And Sony and Microsoft will have to switch focues into competing with them instead of each other. Only time can tell.

Kendal
05-11-2006, 11:48 PM
If E3 is any indication, I would place my money on Microsoft for first out. Then again Super Nerd has way too much money. They put me to sleep with their conference. Best thing was Live Anywhere. Xbox has never really enticed me.

Duo_Maxwell
05-12-2006, 12:11 AM
I think it'll be just like Taco Bell winning the fast food wars in Demolition Man. There'll be some kind of huge super war and the sole winner will be a company we currently think of as a joke like Infinium Labs (or whoever the hell made up the Phantom thing).


Honestly though I don't think we will see anybody go completely out this generation.