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Ikohn4ever
06-09-2006, 07:41 PM
Crave Talk: Is Nintendo the apple of Apple's eye?

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In 1995 Apple launched its first games console, the Bandai Pippin. It was based on a 66MHz PowerPC processor and ran a stripped-down version of Mac OS 7. The market for the device was not immediately obvious. The Mac was notorious for its lack of mainstream gaming titles, so basing a games console on OS 7 was a staggeringly perverse decision -- some might say suicidal.

The 603e processor the Pippin used was woefully under-specced for decent gaming even back in '95. Set adrift in a world where almost every gamer had a Sony PlayStation, Sega Saturn or Nintendo 64 tucked under their television set, the inevitable happened and Pippin died a horrible, embarrassing death. Recently, the Pippin was included in PC World's '25 Worst Tech Products of All Time'.

Apple's track record with games has improved slightly since. Many major titles like World of Warcraft and Halo are available to buy for the Mac -- although often the Mac version is one release behind the PC versions. Only the bestselling PC games make it to the Mac and there's often a six- to 12-month wait while companies port a title. But this may be about to change.

Just last month, CNET.co.uk's sister site GameSpot reported on a rumour that a secret videogames division is being set up at Apple, headed up by LucasArts' technical director Mike Lampbell. The brief of the department is rumoured to be focused on games for the iPod, but some observers ask why a heavyweight in the industry would be recruited to make iPod games in the vein of the current bat-'n'-ball titles?

Online conspiracy theorists suggest that Apple is about to frag the gaming community with a revelation that could shake Microsoft to its core: Apple will buy Nintendo. What could be more quintessentially left-field Apple behaviour than buying out the US's number three games console manufacturer?

Between howling at the moon, these looneys point to the similar corporate philosophies of Apple and Nintendo (bull-headed determination in the face of defeat); the similar consumer perception of the companies (both have followings whose brand dedication verges on the religiously devout); the similar design styles (the Nintendo DS Lite practically looks like Jonathan Ive built it); and the complementary market spaces (Apple wants games, Nintendo wants style). But somewhere in the looney's mind, is there a scintilla of logic? A tiny fragment of truth spluttering for breath in the soup of madness? Could Apple actually buy Nintendo, and more importantly, why would it want to?

Cisco was rumoured to be looking at a purchase of Nintendo earlier in the year, so the idea of Nintendo being bought is not outlandish in itself. Apple's market cap is $51.7bn (Nintendo's is $23.1bn), so it's got a fair bit of financial clout. If Apple wanted to buy Nintendo it could theoretically raise debt to cover the cost because it has a good credit rating, not to mention $6.34bn in cash reserves. However, a city analyst told Crave that agressive takeovers of Japanese companies can be difficult and expensive. Japanese companies use the keiretsu system of interlocking holdings and partnerships, which makes conventional takeovers exceptionally hard.

If Apple was to acquire Nintendo, a friendly takeover or merger would be more likely. In the merger scenario, Apple might have a chat with Nintendo and convince them to agree to form a new company. Still, the viability of a merger is low. Now may be a bad time to adopt Nintendo -- Apple would do better to wait a year or two to see how the Wii does.

So why would Apple bother with Nintendo anyway? With the massive success of the iPod, Apple has become a hugely popular mainstream vendor and has finally seen the recognition it always felt it deserved. The Motley Fool believes Apple may even be making effective strikes against Dell. However, Apple has not seen similar success with its flagship product, the Macintosh computer.

Apple was the first computer manufacturer to commercialise the windows- and icon-based GUI that is now used by almost every desktop operating system in the world. Yet the market share of Apple's Macintosh is only 2.3 per cent globally and 3.5 per cent in the US. iPods, on the other hand, have an estimated market share of between 60 and 70 per cent. A Nintendo purchase could potentially let Apple bring the success enjoyed by the iPod to the Macintosh computer.

Consider this: the Mac Mini currently retails for not much more than the forthcoming Sony PlayStation 3 will. The Mac Mini can play high-definition video, edit music and photographs, surf the Web, word process and edit video -- things no console can currently do well, if at all. The Mini also runs Apple's extremely robust OS X operating system. What if the Mini could also play Nintendo games? And not just play Nintendo games, but play Nintendo games specifically tailored to the strengths of the Mac Mini's hardware? Would Apple have a viable console on its hands? And if so, could it penetrate the mainstream consumer market with Macintosh computers in a way that has constantly eluded it in the past?

The newsgroups are constantly awash with the dregs of idle wondering, but the Apple and Nintendo partnership is one rumour we can't help hoping is true. The Pippin was the company's biggest disgrace -- how delightful if Apple were to get Mario to redeem its games strategy a full decade on. -Chris Stevens


http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49276362,00.htm


I would preferably want a Co-Op, also I doubt Nintendo would sell. If the Wii is a flop it would easily leave it open for some business manuever. I coulde see myself buying a DSlite 2 with itunes player.

Apossum
06-09-2006, 07:53 PM
The Mac Mini can play high-definition video, edit music and photographs, surf the Web, word process and edit video -- things no console can currently do well, if at all.


and in all my years of gaming, I've REALLY been missing these features. I wanna be able to multi-task between a Mario window, Garageband and a term paper. PLEASE APPLE SAVE US

R1V3R5
06-09-2006, 08:00 PM
Blah.......


Every damn week we hear about someone buying Nintendo and it never happens. Microsoft, Cisco, etc. Now we get Apple as a potential buyer because the DS lite and Wii controller are ipod'ish? Fuck that.

Michaellvortega
06-09-2006, 08:15 PM
I heard CheapyD was buying Nintendo but Defender was out bidding him. Meh.

A Happy Panda
06-09-2006, 08:30 PM
I heard Kutagari bought out Nintendo, but Iwata had him killed so he still owns Nintendo.

ryanbph
06-09-2006, 08:35 PM
it would be interesting, but I like my ipod the way it is. I also enjoy the ds the way it is.

Vegan
06-09-2006, 08:46 PM
A supposedly reputable news site is no place for "Wouldn't it be cool if...?" articles. They may as well be writing articles on whether a Star Destroyer would beat the Enterprise in a fight.

Strell
06-09-2006, 09:00 PM
Man.

Everyone be on Ninty's nuts now.

Which is expected. Ninty has huge fucking nuts.

megaseadramon
06-09-2006, 09:24 PM
I think nintendo will never be bought out, unless for some ungodly reason the Wii and DS bomb at the exact same time, No one buys the games, and Nintendo goes on a gambling spree in vegas and made the wrong bet so they need to sell the company to pay the bookies.

terribledeli
06-09-2006, 09:46 PM
A supposedly reputable news site is no place for "Wouldn't it be cool if...?" articles. They may as well be writing articles on whether a Star Destroyer would beat the Enterprise in a fight.

Speaking of such, a Star Destroyer would totally kill the Enterprise. The Enterprise would be like "Not in the face" or "that hurts"...then it would cry.

sying
06-09-2006, 10:01 PM
Isn't Nintendo too financially strong to be bought by Apple?

David85
06-09-2006, 10:46 PM
Microsoft got close to buying and Nintendo still said no.

All I get from this is....

"OMGz!!!11!1!1 @pple is soooooooooooo goin to bi nINtenDo bcuz they both got da white thing gunnin on!!!!1111!!11!!"

graf1k
06-10-2006, 01:05 AM
Man.

Everyone be on Ninty's nuts now.

Which is expected. Ninty has huge fucking nuts.

Fuckin' right. Dick riders, all of 'em!

Moxio
06-10-2006, 02:30 AM
Wow, this rumor's way out of line.

RelentlessRolento
06-10-2006, 02:32 AM
So when will we see some Mario iPods?

TimPV3
06-10-2006, 02:53 AM
While searching eBay for a cheap Panasonic Q, which lately has become a favorite pasttime of mine, I started thinking, what's stopping Apple from having a Nintendo Wii or Gamecube built into a Mac? I mean, if Panasonic can release a DVD player/Gamecube hybrid, why can't Apple? What am I missing?

2poor
06-10-2006, 03:05 AM
Do you guys ever wonder why I'm so poor?

Vinny
06-10-2006, 03:31 AM
While searching eBay for a cheap Panasonic Q, which lately has become a favorite pasttime of mine, I started thinking, what's stopping Apple from having a Nintendo Wii or Gamecube built into a Mac? I mean, if Panasonic can release a DVD player/Gamecube hybrid, why can't Apple? What am I missing?

Uh... maybe because Nintendo spent money developing the hardware for the games. And if Apple decides to just make it so that their computers can play Nintendo games. Guess who's going to be pissed that they spent a ton of money researching & developing something only to have another company come in to and steal the benefits without any of the work? The only reason Panasonic can make a DVD/GC hybrid is because Nintendo and Panasonic have a partnership. Otherwise, wouldn't it make sense for every console to play the competition's game?:roll:

I call total bullshit on this. Both Nintendo and Apple are high profitable but it just does not make sense for Nintendo to want itself to be purchased. If anything, I'm betting money that Nintendo and Apple are working something that'll let Apple products 'talk' with Nintendo products (much like 360 and XP Media Center). Problem is, with Apple computers controlling 10% of the market, I can't see it having much to do with their computers. But iPods are fair game.:)

TimPV3
06-10-2006, 03:52 AM
The only reason Panasonic can make a DVD/GC hybrid is because Nintendo and Panasonic have a partnership. So why can't Apple and Nintendo make a partnership to put out special Mac's with Wii's in them?

Vinny
06-10-2006, 04:05 AM
So why can't Apple and Nintendo make a partnership to put out special Mac's with Wii's in them?

Because they haven't... yet (or already have, we just don't know). The reason why I can't see Apple's playing Wii games is because of the simple fact of company ideals. While both of similarities, one look at the hardware for each company shows some differences. Apple believes in top of the line stuff at a top price whereas Nintendo believes in value with quality.

Of course, a gaming iMac could be the perfect middle point for the two companies. Imagine using the Wiimote to play a game on your MacBook Pro and then quitting the game to go on surfing the net using the Wiimote.:drool:

Scobie
06-10-2006, 10:43 AM
Do you guys ever wonder why I'm so poor?

No, not really, but now that I have awareness of your poverty, it will haunt my waking life.

Anyway, this rumor is bull-chit, mang... bull-chit.

I AM WILLIAM H. MACY
06-10-2006, 03:06 PM
Breaking News!!!!!!!

Nintendo Is Combining With Sega And Atari To Form Ningari!

Richlough
06-10-2006, 04:53 PM
Does this mean Nintendo owners will have to turn into snobs and act like they and their hardware are superior .

"Dude , your Xbox 360 crashes because it's Microsoft , You should get a Wii .
They're now made with an annoyingly hard to use OS made by Apple ."

Fuck even the thought of this .

If iTunes is any indication of how Apple shit is designed , I'll never buy a Mac .

Commodore 64 > Apple IIe .

SpeedyG
06-12-2006, 01:02 PM
Does this mean Nintendo owners will have to turn into snobs and act like they and their hardware are superior .


Umm, not to start flames but half of us already are!

Strell
06-12-2006, 01:04 PM
Meh. I just can't hang out with you...non-Nintendo Apple people. You just don't get it anymore.

Besides, if Apple took over Nintendo, we'd only get...what, like 5 games a year? And they all would be from 1-2 years ago.

lionheart4life
06-12-2006, 01:13 PM
Not everything needs to be portable and play damn mp3s. Plus the Wii would probably double in price and be rereleased constantly with slightly larger hard drives

GrimNecroWizard
06-12-2006, 01:28 PM
Not everything needs to be portable and play damn mp3s. Plus the Wii would probably double in price and be rereleased constantly with slightly larger hard drives

They would also keep making them smaller...
Nintendo Wii
Nintendo Wii Mini
Nintendo Pea or Pii or whatever you'd wanna call it

UncleBob
06-12-2006, 01:48 PM
Well, hell people. I'm interested in buying Nintendo(not-a-rumor).

Let's start a thread about that! Meanwhile, I'm going to go start counting my laundry quarters...

daroga
06-12-2006, 04:33 PM
Well, hell people. I'm interested in buying Nintendo(not-a-rumor).

Let's start a thread about that! Meanwhile, I'm going to go start counting my laundry quarters...
Want to go halfsies on Nintendo? I just washed the truck and found at least $1.59 in change. That's gotta be more than LASTendo is worth, right? LOLOZORZ!

munch
06-12-2006, 04:52 PM
Does this mean Nintendo owners will have to turn into snobs and act like they and their hardware are superior .

"Dude , your Xbox 360 crashes because it's Microsoft , You should get a Wii .
They're now made with an annoyingly hard to use OS made by Apple ."

Fuck even the thought of this .

If iTunes is any indication of how Apple shit is designed , I'll never buy a Mac .

Commodore 64 > Apple IIe .

Someone's jealous because he can't afford an apple! Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

And please tell me you're kidding about OSX being 'annoyingly hard to use.' It's so simple, and it's true that it just works. Give it a try before you go knocking it!

zman73
06-12-2006, 07:40 PM
Someone's jealous because he can't afford an apple! Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

And please tell me you're kidding about OSX being 'annoyingly hard to use.' It's so simple, and it's true that it just works. Give it a try before you go knocking it!

THANK YOU!!! I was about to post the same thing... mac OS... hard to use?... even my own wife after spending months complaining about my mac, went and got a PC laptop... she tells me now how much easier the OS was on mac... and I like itunes as well

Macs are well designed and functional computers (esp for those with design type job like myself) with less risk of viruses, etc

daroga
06-13-2006, 11:56 AM
I think I understand what he means by annoyingly hard to use, in that for someone with a deep MS-DOS/Windows background, the Mac OS is a different kind of animal. It's not that I couldn't learn it, it's that I don't really want to. ;)

That, and Macs are just very expensive. Not saying it's not worth it, but it's just a fact. I do like Apple's stuff, but I think out of sheer laziness if nothing else, I'll stick with PCs.

Chacrana
06-13-2006, 12:04 PM
I seriously doubt that Apple would actually buy Nintendo... it doesn't fit with Apple's fondness for overpricing hardware and to be perfectly honest, Apple has nothing valuable to offer to any console manufacturer. So maybe you can't live the emo dream and edit video while listening to music and looking at peoples' myspaces on your console... but why the hell would you want to?

daroga
06-13-2006, 12:14 PM
I seriously doubt that Apple would actually buy Nintendo... it doesn't fit with Apple's fondness for overpricing hardware and to be perfectly honest, Apple has nothing valuable to offer to any console manufacturer. So maybe you can't live the emo dream and edit video while listening to music and looking at peoples' myspaces on your console... but why the hell would you want to?
If Apple's buying Nintendo, it's not what Apple could bring to Nintendo but what Nintendo can give to Apple, like a whole new market to already have a strong presence in, higher profit margins than any other game hardware manufactuer, etc.

I'm pretty sure the PS3 will do all the above functions. So, maybe it's more likely that Apple would buy the Playstation division. Over priced hardware? check. Competteor with Microsoft? check. Yes, it will happen. I bet my giant enemy crabs on it.

Chacrana
06-13-2006, 12:21 PM
If Apple's buying Nintendo, it's not what Apple could bring to Nintendo but what Nintendo can give to Apple, like a whole new market to already have a strong presence in, higher profit margins than any other game hardware manufactuer, etc.

I'm pretty sure the PS3 will do all the above functions. So, maybe it's more likely that Apple would buy the Playstation division. Over priced hardware? check. Competteor with Microsoft? check. Yes, it will happen. I bet my giant enemy crabs on it.

Even if it was what Nintendo could bring to Apple, I don't see anything significant enough to make buying Nintendo worthwhile... Nintendo likes innovation and Apple likes pretending to be innovative... that's where the similarities end.

But yes, Apple would love the PS3 -- it's exactly the system that they would've made.

Richlough
06-13-2006, 07:37 PM
I think I understand what he means by annoyingly hard to use, in that for someone with a deep MS-DOS/Windows background, the Mac OS is a different kind of animal. It's not that I couldn't learn it, it's that I don't really want to. ;)

That, and Macs are just very expensive. Not saying it's not worth it, but it's just a fact. I do like Apple's stuff, but I think out of sheer laziness if nothing else, I'll stick with PCs.

I think iTunes , being version 6.whatever , could of had a lot of potential .
There's alot of little things it should do by now .
Why doesn't it warn me of duplicate songs . It shows them to me .
Why the fuck do I have to delete them manually .

If anything , iTunes should be used as a "gateway drug" to get people to buy a Mac .

My brother in-law has Mac's (Musician) , he's always on his high horse about them .
" Yeah but you play games " , exactly why a Mac is useless to me .
It gets old fast . Constantly going on about Firewire , like it's the ultimate .
Yeah the ultimate in price , compare it to the price of a USB cable , WTF ?

I guess he's never had a kick-ass PC .

usickenme
06-14-2006, 01:46 AM
I seriously doubt that Apple would actually buy Nintendo... it doesn't fit with Apple's fondness for overpricing hardware and to be perfectly honest, Apple has nothing valuable to offer to any console manufacturer. So maybe you can't live the emo dream and edit video while listening to music and looking at peoples' myspaces on your console... but why the hell would you want to?

No offense, but you're an idiot. At the very least Apple has some of the best industrial designers around. That is worth a lot.

FYI- Rich. Firewire is much much better than USB 2.0. That's a fact. It costs more but the better things usually do. I guess you've never used it.