The Official Guitar Hero II Thread (80's Edition Confirmed w/initial tracklist!)

[Chacrana]

I'm at home and I started playing. They changed the songs from the demo... as in, Shout at the Devil has different notes that you have to play and the song itself is slightly different in parts. I like this version better though. Now I'm playing through Mother... impressions later.

[Chacrana]

Shit, this is incredible. My issue with GH1 was that the first 3 or 4 sets were (for the most part) no fun after a while since the songs were way too simple. Not the case here. The songs are incredible, they have wicked good solos, and they're challenging enough to be fun.

Edit: Message in a Bottle is insanely good. It's clear that RedOctane really knew what they were doing with this game... those moments where the bass has most of the interesting parts and you play a brief few (albeit awesome) notes are some of the best. It's hard to explain, but this takes a shit on GH1.

[gofishn]

Damn you and your broken street date GHII!

[evanft]

Question for anyone who has ever preordered anything from Gamestop online: Do they SHIP on the release date, or do you actually GET the game on the release date?

Oh, and I have another little one: If Harmonix decided to do band-themed versions of GH with 20-30 songs from 1 band at $20-$30 each, what bands would you shell out for? Me:

AC/DC
The Beatles (band+solo work would be great)
Iron Maiden (maybe add some Bruce solo stuff to make it sweeter)
Judas Priest
Led Zeppelin
Metallica
Pink Floyd
Rolling Stones
Slayer

[pete5883]

Usually, they ship on the release date. But FFXII just recently shipped like a week before the release date, so if they're getting them in early, they might ship them out early. Not likely though.

[evanft]

Damn, that sucks.

Oh, and I narrowed down the 4 Iron Maiden songs I would want the most in GH3 or whatever:

Fear of the Dark
Hallowed Be Thy Name
The Trooper
Wasted Years

I made a list of 32, with at least one song from all but 1 IM album, and then used brackets. Those 4 won.

[mykevermin]

Fuck you and not wanting to include Run to the Hills, for at least the bass line, in GH3.

[Z-Saber]

Well, I had about twenty minutes left, and then it jumped back up to three hours. Basically, I should have this ready to go by the end of the night and will post impressions. I want to initially try it on the DLP so I can see how 480p looks. I might bring it up here by the computer and get it going in the chatroom though. Depends on how long it takes and how tired I am.

EDIT: Alright, it's done.

[Z-Saber]

It deserves a double post.

Awesome. Awesome awesome.

Progressive scan, WIDESCREEN, and lag calibration, though that last one actually hurt more than helped. I noticed in the unlockables that certain guitars were only available through completing the Easy, Normal, Hard, and Expert careers, so I started out on Easy WITH lag calibrated. Umm... I sucked real hard. Turned it off, and I was magically delicious once again. Progressive scan and widescreen look excellent, though I have a border on the right and bottom of the screen. I'm pretty sure other games don't do this, but it's no biggy.

The characters look amazing, they added some reflections to the buttons, burning hands, and other little touches. I've only played a couple songs (and not even on Expert), but so far it's AMAZING.

If you don't have this game yet, or don't have a preorder, go to a midnight release party or camp out. This game is going to sell, sell, sell.

[sonicbooom]

It deserves a double post.

Awesome. Awesome awesome.

Progressive scan, WIDESCREEN, and lag calibration, though that last one actually hurt more than helped. I noticed in the unlockables that certain guitars were only available through completing the Easy, Normal, Hard, and Expert careers, so I started out on Easy WITH lag calibrated. Umm... I sucked real hard. Turned it off, and I was magically delicious once again. Progressive scan and widescreen look excellent, though I have a border on the right and bottom of the screen. I'm pretty sure other games don't do this, but it's no biggy.

The characters look amazing, they added some reflections to the buttons, burning hands, and other little touches. I've only played a couple songs (and not even on Expert), but so far it's AMAZING.

If you don't have this game yet, or don't have a preorder, go to a midnight release party or camp out. This game is going to sell, sell, sell.
WHAT? Holy shit. I can't believe this game has widescreen and progressive scan.

I can't fucking wait now. I might just buy it tomorrow. Fuck, I should just buy it now, I have nothing to do tonight and I'm drinking by myself.

[Blind the Thief]

I'm really pissed I still don't have this.

Tuesday is, like, a million years away.


evanft - nice Maiden choices, IMO. I think one of the few bands I'd choose over Maiden for a solo game would be Metallica...pre-Black Album, of course.

[Z-Saber]

They screwed up the PS2 controller controls! NOOOOOOOO! Now I can't play this at school in my car without the guitar! :cry::cry:

That is a hugemongous setback.

Anyway, I'll be in the chatroom for a wee bit. Don't hope for anything ridiculous since I just started and have nothing unlocked. I'm also going to bed pretty soon, since I've been up for almost 24 hours.

EDIT: Nevermind about the chatroom. I can't get into it for some reason.

[asianxcore]

I'm really pissed I still don't have this.

Tuesday is, like, a million years away.


evanft - nice Maiden choices, IMO. I think one of the few bands I'd choose over Maiden for a solo game would be Metallica...pre-Black Album, of course.

Guitar Hero: Kill Em All Edition. I wish.

I also agree the wait for Tuesday is terrible. I tried to see if I could get it early at Circuit City today, but the registers would not let them scan the game.

[sonicbooom]

They screwed up the PS2 controller controls! NOOOOOOOO! Now I can't play this at school in my car without the guitar! :cry::cry:

That is a hugemongous setback.

Anyway, I'll be in the chatroom for a wee bit. Don't hope for anything ridiculous since I just started and have nothing unlocked. I'm also going to bed pretty soon, since I've been up for almost 24 hours.

EDIT: Nevermind about the chatroom. I can't get into it for some reason. Just bring your guitar. You might look stupid playing with a fake guitar in your car, but who cares if you're having a good time. :lol:

[Demolition Man]

Here's my Guitar Hero wishlist if I could make my own disc with the songs I want on it....

Pink Floyd
1. Flaming
2. Intersteller Overdrive
3. Bike
4. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun
5. Fat Old Sun
6. Careful With That Axe, Eugene (Live At Pompeii style)
7. Time
8. Money
9. Shine On You Crazy Diamond
10. Have A Cigar
11. Wish You Were Here
12. Pigs (Three Different Ones)
13. Sheep
14. Comfortably Numb
15. Run Like Hell
16. The Final Cut
17. Sorrow
18. High Hopes
(And for measure let's throw in a few solo songs from Floyd members)
Roger Waters
19. The Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking
20. Every Strangers Eyes
21. What God Wants (Part 1)
23. The Bravery Of Being Out Of Range
David Gilmour
24. No Way Out Of Here
25. Murder
26. All Lovers Are Deranged
27. The Blue
28. Take A Breathe
Syd Barrett
29. Octopus
30. No Good Trying
31. Baby Lemonade

The Police
32. Dead End Job
33. Roxanne
34. So Lonely
35. Message In A Bottle
36. Deathwish
37. Driven To Tears
38. De Do Do Do De Da Da Da
39. Demolition Man
40. Synchronicity II
41. Wrapped Around Your Finger
42. Tea In The Sahara

Sting
43. Fortress Around Your Heart
44. Fragile
45. Jeremiah Blues (Part 1)
46. The Soul Cages
47. Love Is Stronger Than Justice (The Munificent Seven)
48. Something The Boy Said
49. Twenty Five To Midnight
50. This War

Misc Songs
51. Andy Summers - Charming Snakes
52. Metallica - For Whom The Bell Tolls
53. Metallica - One
54. The Offspring - Come Out And Play
55. Dale Oliver - I Am
56. Dale Oliver - My World
57. The Who - Pinball Wizard

There are many others I can add but I'm way too tired..... I might add more later.

[evanft]

Fuck you and not wanting to include Run to the Hills, for at least the bass line, in GH3.

Sorry, those 4 songs I listed are all better than RTTH.

IGN Review (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/743/743905p1.html)

Oh, and if you buy the game at BB, you get a free Wayne's World DVD.

[Z-Saber]

They changed the vocalists on Tattoooed Love Boys and Killing in the Name Of. I'm not familiar with the original songs, so I can't vouch for their authenticity, but having heard a few other Rage songs, I'd say this guy's just as unfit as the first one. Tattooed Love Boys is phenomenally easier to play now though. It was really ridiculous on the hacked demo.

New characters are pretty cool, old characters look pretty different except for Judy Nails (whom most of you have already seen) and Johnny Napalm. Axel's got a weird (dumb) looking face now, Izzy looks really young, Clive looks cooler, and Xavier looks like a totally, completely different person. He's no longer buff and dreaded. He's wearing a leisure suit and sports an afro. Pandora (who I truly hated in the first game) is... well, kinda hot now. Her second outfit's (yes, all characters, except the unlocked ones, have second outfits you can buy) shirt is all ripped up, showing some... stuff. Grim Ripper is awesome.

Playing as Clive Winston, I enabled star power. Like the first game, they all have special animations and such. This time, I think they have two or maybe more instead of just one. Clive, for example, makes the guitar hover and stuff, but his second one is great. He whips out a violin bow and starts playing with that, though it's just a preset animation and not actually what you're playing. Still, I laughed when I saw it.

There are tons of new guitars, including two new ones for each difficulty. You get one for beating the career mode, the other for five-starring. Each guitar has three additional skins.

After beating the last song in a tier/set, you're asked to do an encore. The camera zooms and everyone cheers. It then gives you a dialogue, asking if you want to do another song or not. I don't know what happens if you decline, but if you accept, the venue sports something new (lighting or other effects, such as people throwing beer bottles [out of respect?] on to the stage) and then you launch into the fifth song of the set. They're usually longer songs, such as War Pigs.

The game rocks. I'm about halfway through Expert now.

[Sk8erlink7]

Oh man, Trogdor is a bonus track?! Holy hell, that's awesome! I'm hoping to God that my game comes on time (I ordered from RedOctane).

[evanft]

God damn you Z-Saber!!!!

[Blind the Thief]

So wait, I'm going to have to play through lower difficulties to unlock some of those guitars? That's fucking lame.


Thinking about Pandora is giving me a major stiffy, though. I was always her in the first game.

[Z-Saber]

I can post pics, Thief. :lol:

So... I kinda beat it. It's really really good. The venues get bigger and bigger, and the songs more and more epic. The ONLY song I failed was Misirlou, and I got it on the second try. Some of them were very difficult, but I somehow managed to scrape by.

Unlocked all the guitars (aside from the difficulty-related ones) and their finishes, outifts, and everything except for one of the bonus, behind-the-scenes videos. Also tried out a few bonus tracks. Now these are going to take some time. The Shadows Fall song is impossible, and the Buckethead song is hard as well. I tried them both just once and failed pretty miserably. Beat Thunderhorse (not familiar with Metalocolypse. Dethklok or any of that, but it was fairly flat sounding yet fun) and the Freezepop song. It was fun, but maybe not on par with everything else I've heard by them. I'll have to play it again.

I'm pretty burnt out. I played through the whole thing this morning/afternoon, and I'm a bit tired of it. Having played so long though, I kinda got into "the zone" on Freebird. I struggled, but I absolutely NAILED certain parts that I still can't believe. Speaking of which, the whole Freebird thing (I won't spoil it) is totally amazing. It's... out there, but really funny.

I'll try out some multiplayer tonight.

[karsh]

I'm still debating what I wanna do with this game. I'm definitely getting it Wednesday, I'm just not sure whether I should get it with a guitar (I still have my one from GH1) or seperately and pick up a wireless guitar down the road. Though getting it with a guitar now would let me play multiplayer right away. Decisions decisions.

[Z-Saber]

My problem with the wireless guitar is the price and the lack of necessity. I already have two guitars (one of which, after today's thrashing, is starting to break down a bit) and wouldn't mind getting the bundle to have the new and improved guitar in case this one ever dies, but I don't need wireless freedom. I have extension cables if necessary, and I only use those if I play multiplayer so we each have enough room to move around if we want.

[karsh]

My problem with the wireless guitar is the price and the lack of necessity. I already have two guitars (one of which, after today's thrashing, is starting to break down a bit) and wouldn't mind getting the bundle to have the new and improved guitar in case this one ever dies, but I don't need wireless freedom. I have extension cables if necessary, and I only use those if I play multiplayer so we each have enough room to move around if we want.

Yeah, that's the other thing. I have absolutely NO need for a wireless guitar, but I'm like "Well, wireless is pretty damn cool." I think I'm just gonna pick a bundle up Wednesday.

[Ranger Rick]

Christmas just came early. Found the only copy at my local FYE. Been playing multiplayer with my friends for the last hour or so. Gonna eat and and then play some more. Peace.

[Z-Saber]

In Coop, you can now pick your part instead of player one/left being lead guitar and two/right being bass/rhythm. It also keeps track of your score and star rating, similar to career mode. I don't know if there's any reward or objective in it, but it's kinda cool.

Face-off is the original Guitar Hero multiplayer, with one person playing a part, the other playing a different part, and then both playing together occasionally. The difference is you can now individually select difficulties. I'm not 100% how the scores are factored, but I believe that I (playing on Expert) received 50 points per note, while my dad (on Easy and Medium) would get 100 or something. Honestly, it's hard to tell when you're trying to play these songs on Expert and watch the other person's score and do quick math. :lol: Anyway, I guess that's how it becomes a competition of scores, since the person on Expert has a ton more to play and a much better chance of scoring higher. You also are only allowed to play the lead. No choosing of parts here.

New to the game is Pro Face-off. It was unlocked after beating Expert, though I guess that it would be unlocked on Medium or Hard as well (Easy still has a shorter/incomplete career mode, just like the original). In it, both players play the entire selected song simultaneously on the same difficulty. No back and forth, bass and lead stuff. You both play the whole thing together. The point is that the original Face-off truly isn't a fairly competitive thing. For example, I played You Got Another Thing Comin' on Easy with my mom in the original Guitar Hero. It was about the only song she'd play, and she challenged me to it. Anyway, we both ended up 100%-ing it, but she won. The reason? Her part had more notes. Not many, but I think she had one or two more. That was enough for her to win. Also, on certain songs, one part was decidedly easier than the other, giving that person an edge. This time around, they decided to add a truly competitive gametype, which is this Pro Face-off, for people who really want to compete and not just have a fun time and possibly give an advantage to someone else. Like the original Face-off, you can't pick parts. Lead only.

The second dissappointing thing about this game (the first being the ruined PS2 controller controls) is that there is only one bass guitar to pick. Everyone plays the same bass guitar, 'cept for the Grim Ripper. He, same as his normal guitar, only plays the Scythe.

[evanft]

Actually, I think you can unlock extra basses by playing multiplayer.

[kittycatgirl2k]

How fun is the multiplayer on this, and how accessible is it? I was thinking of picking it up w. the extra guitar to keep the relatives busy during the holidays. My aunt usually chips in on some gimmicky rhythm game to keep the relatives from verbally tearing each other apart or just staring at each other. we've done Karaoke Revolution and Donkey Konga in the past and I was thinking we might have a guitar hero Thanksgiving and Christmas.

It really does make a difference to have an interesting distraction when you have a tiny house jampacked full of people with little in common that are expected to interact with each other for several days in a row. Its even worse if theres alot of snow out preventing them from mingling outside the confines of the four walls....

[Roufuss]

Wow, the game has a song by Dethklok?

That's... strangely awesome.

[munch]

So where are you guys getting the demo? Can you only get it in the OPM magazine?

[Blind the Thief]

I can post pics, Thief. :lol:

Ok, so, uh...why haven't you yet? :)


Anyway, wow, you burned through Expert pretty fast! And here I thought I was decent...still, from what I've seen, it's only those last tier songs that will probably trip me up on Expert. Even Laid to Rest doesn't look too hard (looks fun, though!).


You can choose which instrument you play in Co-op, instead of having to stand on the right/left side? Excellent!

[defiance_17]

I finally beat No One Knows on Hard today in GH1...and then blew through the first 24 songs on Expert (Crossroads leveled me instantly). Maybe I'm somewhat ready for this one after all.

[Blind the Thief]

I finally beat No One Knows on Hard today in GH1...and then blew through the first 24 songs on Expert (Crossroads leveled me instantly). Maybe I'm somewhat ready for this one after all.

Yup, Crossroads is where I got stuck, too. It's great when you get the hang of it, though. My favorite song to play nowadays.

[Z-Saber]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2360/pandoraze9.th.png (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pandoraze9.png)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/409/pandora2uf8.th.png (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pandora2uf8.png)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3200/pandora3ru6.th.png (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pandora3ru6.png)

Sorry about the image quality. If you know anything about my setup, I have my TV connected through S-Video while having the Gamebridge going through composite, hence the not great clarity.

No fapping!

EDIT: I'm in the chatroom if you guys are interested. Seeing as I have everything, you can pretty much ask for anything and I'll try it.

[FriskyTanuki]

So where are you guys getting the demo? Can you only get it in the OPM magazine?
OPM has four songs in the demo, while there's another that has 10 songs and can apparently be hacked to get many more (some not even in the final build). Where that other one can be found, I don't know, but I'm sure the others who actually have it can enlighten you.

[Z-Saber]

You can either download the 10-song demo or (doubtfully) get it from a store employee, from a store who has the demo. I actually asked at EB, and they said they only have one per store, and someone at Best Buy said he took one home, implying there was more than one there. I doubt you'd be able to legitimately get one, so I'd just wait a few days or download it.

[Blind the Thief]

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2360/pandoraze9.th.png (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pandoraze9.png)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/409/pandora2uf8.th.png (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pandora2uf8.png)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3200/pandora3ru6.th.png (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pandora3ru6.png)

Sorry about the image quality. If you know anything about my setup, I have my TV connected through S-Video while having the Gamebridge going through composite, hence the not great clarity.

No fapping!

EDIT: I'm in the chatroom if you guys are interested. Seeing as I have everything, you can pretty much ask for anything and I'll try it.

Boner. BOIOIOIOING.

[Zoglog]

oh wow, thank god for progressive scan and widescreen mode. It makes guitar hero 2 looks leaps and bounds better than the first. The first one, the graphics were more distracting than helpful. In Guitar hero 2 they provide sort of a great ambiance to the game.

Granted graphics don't make much difference in this sort of game, but it's a very nice touch for HDTVs

http://zoglog.clearlyseen.net/photos/guitarhero2_1.jpg
http://zoglog.clearlyseen.net/photos/guitarhero2_2.jpg
http://zoglog.clearlyseen.net/photos/guitarhero2_3.jpg

[Ranger Rick]

Beat all the main songs on expert today except for Free Bird. It's ridiculous. I think it may take me a little while to beat it. I've been playing with my friends for like 7 hours straight. The designs on the wall are dripping downward. I don't think I'm going to be able to sleep tonight. This game has improved on the original in every way. You must pick this game up if you have a ps2.

[Zoglog]

I still prefer guitar Freak's method of showing notes though, it's far less convoluted.

...

I just played Trogdor
The House was Rocked
I got a Boner
Jesus saved the world

[Z-Saber]

There's a few bonus songs I'm having trouble with. I finally beat the Shadows Fall song... somehow. I think there's three I haven't beat. Some of them are super easy, others are impossible.

The new Made in Mexico song (Yes We Can) is even worse than their song in the first game. It's so repetitive, easy, and LOOOOOOONG. Good thing I five-starred it though, because I will never ever play it again. On Expert.

I'll get through the other difficulties in my car (with the PS2 controller) this week. You see, it's still playable, but it's 1000% harder. Easier difficulties, however, should be manageable.

[evanft]

Finally 5-starred Infected on Hard!!! Yippee!!

EDIT: Ha! I just watched the IGN Video Review, and
Your drummer explodes at the end of Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight.
How fucking cool is that?

[Blind the Thief]

Finally 5-starred Infected on Hard!!! Yippee!!

EDIT: Ha! I just watched the IGN Video Review, and
Your drummer explodes at the end of Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight.
How fucking cool is that?

Holy shit, that's fucking incredible. I can't believe it's still not Tuesday!

[Chacrana]

There's a few bonus songs I'm having trouble with. I finally beat the Shadows Fall song... somehow. I think there's three I haven't beat. Some of them are super easy, others are impossible.

The new Made in Mexico song (Yes We Can) is even worse than their song in the first game. It's so repetitive, easy, and LOOOOOOONG. Good thing I five-starred it though, because I will never ever play it again. On Expert.

I'll get through the other difficulties in my car (with the PS2 controller) this week. You see, it's still playable, but it's 1000% harder. Easier difficulties, however, should be manageable.

That Shadows Fall song was pretty cool... I'm on the last set now and Hanger 18 is a fucking incredible song.

[Zoglog]

wow 9.5....

way overrated. This is a good game... but not that good..........
Anyone's tilt sensor a bit busted and not working very well?

[Z-Saber]

wow 9.5....

way overrated. This is a good game... but not that good..........
Anyone's tilt sensor a bit busted and not working very well?Well, you're flat out wrong, and yes, I am discounting your worthless opinion.

Anyway, yeah, mine's a bit wonky, but then again, my guitar is pretty darn beat up.

[Zoglog]

Well, you're flat out wrong, and yes, I am discounting your worthless opinion.

I care about as much as I care about Bono helping starving children in africa.
ZzZzZz

The fact remains that the game is not a 9.5. And that's not an opinion. You can fanboy jizz over it all you want, it won't change that fact. I think Guitar Hero 2 is a damn kickass game (That's an opinion, which you so want to discount... in your own words), but that's not gonna make me ignore how much this game is a ripoff or how they've overlooked some fundamental gameplay flaws.

[projecteightysix]

The guitar hero series is perfect, enough replay value and challenge that makes you play it months and even years after. I rarely ever pick up a game more than twice after i beat it but ive been picking up guitar hero on and off every week or so.

So yes, it deserves the 9.5 in my opinion, and thats not from me being a fanboy. It's actually fun, and most games lack that.

[evanft]

Well, you're flat out wrong, and yes, I am discounting your worthless opinion.

Anyway, yeah, mine's a bit wonky, but then again, my guitar is pretty darn beat up.

He's on my ignore list for a reason. :bouncy:

EDIT: Guitar pics:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1151/usatardu7.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1905/fishtarjj5.jpg

[mykevermin]

The fact remains that the game is not a 9.5. And that's not an opinion.


I'll bite, and play the semantic game. What makes this a "fact" and not an "opinion"?

[FriskyTanuki]

I care about as much as I care about Bono helping starving children in africa.
ZzZzZz

The fact remains that the game is not a 9.5. And that's not an opinion. You can fanboy jizz over it all you want, it won't change that fact. I think Guitar Hero 2 is a damn kickass game (That's an opinion, which you so want to discount... in your own words), but that's not gonna make me ignore how much this game is a ripoff or how they've overlooked some fundamental gameplay flaws.
Why don't you explain yourself instead of coming here to start crap?

[Zoglog]

explain what, I'm pretty sure that statement was self explanatory. =p

though I love how evanft had to mention that he has me on ignore just to grow his e-penis ;), even though u know when you ignore somone, you don't even talk about it =p...

[tcrash247]

Does anyone here play guitar/bass for real and enjoy this game? I can't help but think to myself, why buy this when I could be playing the real thing on bass? My favorite song in this game would be John the Fisherman by Primus, but I can play that on bass. So why buy this and play this song fakely (if that made any sense)? So enlighten my on why to buy this.

BTW, I saw a video for Buckethead - Jordan and goddamn that song is played fast! The best part about this song is the track used in GH is a studio recording, Buckethead never recorded a studio track for this song, only ever did it live. Kudos to that!

Sorry if any of this has been discussed, but I'm not about to go through 28 pages.

[Zoglog]

I couldve swore somone said there'd be slayer in the final list. oh well, big dissapointment =/

[Chacrana]

Does anyone here play guitar/bass for real and enjoy this game? I can't help but think to myself, why buy this when I could be playing the real thing on bass? My favorite song in this game would be John the Fisherman by Primus, but I can play that on bass. So why buy this and play this song fakely (if that made any sense)? So enlighten my on why to buy this.

BTW, I saw a video for Buckethead - Jordan and goddamn that song is played fast! The best part about this song is the track used in GH is a studio recording, Buckethead never recorded a studio track for this song, only ever did it live. Kudos to that!

Sorry if any of this has been discussed, but I'm not about to go through 28 pages.

Well... even if you play guitar or bass, you do not have a band at your disposal all the time let alone one that can play these songs... and it's addictive to try and get high scores and shit.

[FriskyTanuki]

explain what, I'm pretty sure that statement was self explanatory. =p

though I love how evanft had to mention that he has me on ignore just to grow his e-penis ;), even though u know when you ignore somone, you don't even talk about it =p...
how they've overlooked some fundamental gameplay flaws.
That and myke's question.

[asianxcore]

Sweet, 2 more days.

I can't wait to play the Shadows Fall song.

[Mr. Anderson]

www.scorehero.com

Try it out. It's fun!

[FriskyTanuki]

www.scorehero.com (http://www.scorehero.com)

Try it out. It's fun!
Pretty cool site. The only problem with it, though it's has to do more with the game than the site, is that I can't see the % and streaks from my previos high scores on the game since I didn't document them, but it gives me another reason to go through the game again to document what I can. Thanks for the cool link. It sucks that you can't use their little rank sig until you get a certain amount of contribution points.

[Justin42]

Will the wireless controller only be available from RedOctane? I'd like to try to save a bit of money on it and get it maybe through Amazon or something at least (no shipping or tax).

I am REALLY torn. I don't NEED 3 guitars. I'd LIKE a wireless one, so I'm tempted to just get the GHII game only... (my GH1 guitar is fine) But then people have mentioned the GHII guitars are a bit better-- is there an explanation of the differences/tweaks made? I'd assume the wireless would be just as good design-wise, although I'm afraid if for some reason the wireless part sucks, I'd be out even MORE money getting a wired one later.

(I.e., if I buy GHII game only on faith, trying to save a few bucks, I'm afraid it's possibly going to cost me MORE if the wireless one doesn't pan out well)

also, does anyone have an ETA on the availability of the wireless one? All I can see anywhere is "November" which doesn't totally help- it'd be nice if it were later in the month to help out my credit card...

(sorry if these questions have been answered, I skimmed some of the thread and did a search but didn't see anything)

[FriskyTanuki]

Will the wireless controller only be available from RedOctane? I'd like to try to save a bit of money on it and get it maybe through Amazon or something at least (no shipping or tax).

I am REALLY torn. I don't NEED 3 guitars. I'd LIKE a wireless one, so I'm tempted to just get the GHII game only... (my GH1 guitar is fine) But then people have mentioned the GHII guitars are a bit better-- is there an explanation of the differences/tweaks made? I'd assume the wireless would be just as good design-wise, although I'm afraid if for some reason the wireless part sucks, I'd be out even MORE money getting a wired one later.

(I.e., if I buy GHII game only on faith, trying to save a few bucks, I'm afraid it's possibly going to cost me MORE if the wireless one doesn't pan out well)

also, does anyone have an ETA on the availability of the wireless one? All I can see anywhere is "November" which doesn't totally help- it'd be nice if it were later in the month to help out my credit card...

(sorry if these questions have been answered, I skimmed some of the thread and did a search but didn't see anything)
It was in the EB book of preorderable stuff, so I'd guess that you at least have EB/GS to get one from. Check amazon's website and see if they have it in their inventory and you'll have your answer.

As for improvements of the Cherry guitar over the original guitar, there was an explanation a few pages back but I can't find it at the moment. You can check if you want, just use the thread search at the top of this page or just look through the pages. Maybe someone else can post it again if they know where it is.

It should be out this week alongside the game, according to EB (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802556).

[WAJedi]

I'm really looking forward to grabbing this from Meijer Tuesday morning. Getting the game/guitar bundle for 60 will be amazing.

[Logain8955]

As for improvements of the Cherry guitar over the original guitar, there was an explanation a few pages back but I can't find it at the moment. You can check if you want, just use the thread search at the top of this page or just look through the pages. Maybe someone else can post it again if they know where it is.



More responsive fret buttons, tighter strum bar and a stronger whammy bar.

[FriskyTanuki]

If there's one thing I have to say that's missing for GH, and GHII from the screens I've seen, it's that there's no progress bar that lets you know how far into the song you are. It's all too common that I have SP to use and the song ends before I thought it would and waste the star power I saved up. This feature was in their previous games, so I'm not sure why they left it out here. Hopefully GHIII has that feature.

Speaking of GHIII, with the inclusion of fictional bands in GHII, I'd like to see Beck/Mongolian Chop Squad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BECK:_Mongolian_Chop_Squad) in the sequel as they'd fit the game perfectly.

[Z-Saber]

I'm really looking forward to grabbing this from Meijer Tuesday morning. Getting the game/guitar bundle for 60 will be amazing.Explain. Is this something everyone can get on, or are in some way special.

Also, I have joined evan in my ignorance... err, something like that.

[WAJedi]

Explain. Is this something everyone can get on, or are in some way special.

Also, I have joined evan in my ignorance... err, something like that.

In this week's sunday paper there is an insert of Meijer coupons that are good one day only. There is one good tomorrow that is 20 off any game 49.99 or up.

[Z-Saber]

In this week's sunday paper there is an insert of Meijer coupons that are good one day only. There is one good tomorrow that is 20 off any game 49.99 or up.HOLY CRAP! I hope I still have mine!

[asianxcore]

1 more day to go!!

Sounds crazy, but I'm going to work at 6am to pick this up. My manager has about 3-4 hours of stuff to do before the store opens, and he said I could get the bundle when he came in at 6am. Gotta get some play time in before my classes and my shift at work that night.

on a sidenote, I miss Meijer.

[Chacrana]

Can any of you guys who get the bundle let me know if the game is sealed? I've got the game only version since I wanted GH2 early, but I need to replace my guitar... so I was planning on returning the supposedly sealed copy in the bundle and hanging onto my current one.

[Blind the Thief]

The fact remains that the game is not a 9.5. And that's not an opinion. You can fanboy jizz over it all you want, it won't change that fact. I think Guitar Hero 2 is a damn kickass game (That's an opinion, which you so want to discount... in your own words), but that's not gonna make me ignore how much this game is a ripoff or how they've overlooked some fundamental gameplay flaws.

I fail to see how people can ALREADY be making the "fanboy" argument for this series...the second game isn't even out yet!

And I, too, would like to hear this explanation for "fundamental gameplay flaws"...I can't think of a game that this is a worse description for.



If there's one thing I have to say that's missing for GH, and GHII from the screens I've seen, it's that there's no progress bar that lets you know how far into the song you are. It's all too common that I have SP to use and the song ends before I thought it would and waste the star power I saved up. This feature was in their previous games, so I'm not sure why they left it out here. Hopefully GHIII has that feature.

I actually agree with not including that. To some extent, they're trying to make you feel like you're actually in a band, performing these songs...and performers become familir enough with their songs that they just know what to do. Are you telling me, at this point, you still don't know when most songs in GH1 are going to end?

[evanft]

Actually, I agree with Tanuki about the progress bar. I'd love to have one.

[HumanSnatcher]

Can any of you guys who get the bundle let me know if the game is sealed? I've got the game only version since I wanted GH2 early, but I need to replace my guitar... so I was planning on returning the supposedly sealed copy in the bundle and hanging onto my current one.

If its anything like GH1, its sealed, but it doesn't have the stickers on it that the standalone retail would. Just get yourself a new guitar...if you're lucky you may be able to find one sued somewhere...

[evanft]

New Grim Ripper Video. I love it. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6813517687759376564&hl=en)

According to a post over at the scorehero forum, the unlock shop carries over from each career. Awesome.

There's a log guitar!
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/535/gh2thelog011rb6.jpg

And a snaketopus! Complete Hard to get it.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5255/snaketapuspi9.jpg

COFFIN GUITAR! Complete Medium to get it.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4241/coffinhs7.jpg

VIKING!! 5* Medium to get it.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4661/vikingqa8.jpg

[asianxcore]

Thanks for the pics EvanFT

So does this mean I have to play through all the difficulties this time around? (to get all the guitars). I hate playing on Medium :)

[Kendro]

Saw a bum playing this at the Best Buy on Broadway, NY (not being mean, he was literally a bum, but looked like Jimi Hendrix). He was rocking "Free Bird" and that totally convinced me to want this game. I heard this was coming out for 360. Is it best just to wait for that version? I don't like getting major accessories for a system at the end of its life. Is anyone else passing on this to get 360?

[FriskyTanuki]

I actually agree with not including that. To some extent, they're trying to make you feel like you're actually in a band, performing these songs...and performers become familir enough with their songs that they just know what to do. Are you telling me, at this point, you still don't know when most songs in GH1 are going to end?
For the songs I've really enjoyed and know very well, yes. For the rest that I'm not that familiar with, I get caught with a half bar or more of star power and wish there was some cue. Playing through the bonus songs last night, I did that way too often, considering I had never touched most of them before.

There doesn't even need to be a bar, just something that appears on the scrolling board that tells me I've played through 25%, 50%, or 75% of the song or maybe even smaller intervals. The devs have shown that they're all about helping people get better at the game with the practice mode and all, so this just fits right in to help them when they're trying to get to know the songs they're not familiar with.

[FriskyTanuki]

Saw a bum playing this at the Best Buy on Broadway, NY (not being mean, he was literally a bum, but looked like Jimi Hendrix). He was rocking "Free Bird" and that totally convinced me to want this game. I heard this was coming out for 360. Is it best just to wait for that version? I don't like getting major accessories for a system at the end of its life. Is anyone else passing on this to get 360?
I'd rather get the game now than wait 4-6 months more just to play it. Hell, I'd consider buying both depending on what they add to that version in the next few months. Then again, maybe by the time that comes out, they'll announce GHIII for the PS3 and PS2, or something like that.

[screwkick]

If you just can't wait until tomorrow, I just picked up the Guitar Hero 2 bundle @ Gamerush (Blockbuster). The guy said the street date was tomorrow, but he was able to ring it through the system. He said the boxes were taking up too much space in the back and had about 5 of them out on the counter. Obviously YMMV. Good Luck!

[Z-Saber]

Every ten completed CAREER songs (as in not bonus songs) in Coop mode nets you another bass guitar. I've only gotten one extra one, but I'd assume there are five new ones, making a total of six bass guitars to chose from.

[mykevermin]

Gamefly shipped my GH2. Get here NOW, I demand it!

[asianxcore]

If you just can't wait until tomorrow, I just picked up the Guitar Hero 2 bundle @ Gamerush (Blockbuster).

Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunely there are no Gamerush's in my area, all are just regular Blockbuster Videos.

I'm going to hit up Target tomorrow at 8am when they open, hoping they have the game-only copies of the game.

Also thanks Z-Saber for the info about unlocking the basses.

[Sk8erlink7]

Cool, my copy of GHII (along with my kickass free GHII t-shirt) came in the mail today. My friend and I rocked co-op for a bit (he mostly played Bass or Rhythm guitar, while I was usually playing Lead), and then we tried Trogdor on Expert. How hard could it be, right? Needless to say, we got our asses kicked by it. We're nubs.

[screwkick]

Anyone know the unlock code for all the songs in the game?

[FriskyTanuki]

Anyone know the unlock code for all the songs in the game?
try gamefaqs.com

[Blind the Thief]

Anyone know the unlock code for all the songs in the game?

Grow a pair.

[Logain8955]

Grow a pair.

Eh, there might be a legitimate reason for wanting a full unlock code. Perhaps he's running a tournament and cant use a memory card. Perhaps his memory card was banished to the abyss by a circle of evil druids. Perhaps the card slot has become the personal home of one Mr Demon McMakeYouNotSave.

But, yeah, he's probably just a wuss.

[Maynard]

I'm almost done with the game Lamb of God is SO fucking hard.

[Logain8955]

It is finally Tuesday.

I leave to go vote and then hang out in front of EB until they open in about 20 minutes.

I haven't been this hyped for a game in a long long time.

[Chacrana]

Cool, my copy of GHII (along with my kickass free GHII t-shirt) came in the mail today. My friend and I rocked co-op for a bit (he mostly played Bass or Rhythm guitar, while I was usually playing Lead), and then we tried Trogdor on Expert. How hard could it be, right? Needless to say, we got our asses kicked by it. We're nubs.

TROOGGGGDOOORRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

That's the worst song ever made, but damn.... I'm glad they put it in the game.

[Pookymeister]

So is there any design change to the new guitar? I just busted mine out and it seems by holding down the strum bar it is registering as more than one strum?
Is it broken? =[

[mykevermin]

Read back in the thread, por favor.

[Pookymeister]

Read back in the thread, por favor.

Ok, so then does "tigher strum bar" design change = "holding strum bar down registers as multiple strums"

[mykevermin]

I hope not.

Today=election day=no USPS=no GH2 from Gamefly. Sumbitch.

[Pookymeister]

Thankfully not. Returned my copy to Gamestop and the new one doesn't have the problem.
So i guess watch out for the issue with yours.

On another note mentioned earlier, I can confirm that Hammer ons and pull offs are ALOT easier to get right in GH2, fer sure.

[dashwstppr]

yeah, the controls are tighter on this one.
But the difficulty just ramped up. I went straight for expert (since I know the first one by heart) and even the songs in the first set (ie Woman) kicked my butt.

Also pleasant surprise, it allows widescreen and progressive scan.

Oh yeah, and the crowd calls for an encore. Awesome!

[FriskyTanuki]

I like that they've added the breakdown stats to the career mode so you can see how you did, how many SP phrases you completed, avg. multiplier, and how well you did in each section of the song. I also like how they've added the band sign-in to just the career mode since it was useless for anything else in GH.

[Mr. Anderson]

I'm holding it in my hands, just have to get out of school and play it. I am about to cream myself with anticipation.

[kdunn77]

Anybody able to pickup the Red Octane Wireless guitar. the Ebs around me didn't get them in.

[asianxcore]

I finally have my copy, very happy day indeed. :)

I went to Target around 8am, but the manager working could not find the game or the SKU number to even assist finding it. Blah.

Ended up driving to TRU in morning traffic and got the bundle.

I'm loving it so far. I'm on the fourth tier of songs and I hope to get some more play time in before I have to go to work.

The tiers are kind of weird this time around. I just finished "Cherry Pie" and it's almost like the "I Love Rock N' Roll" of GH 2. Whereas a song like Wolf Mother's, which I thought was harder, is in the first tier.

[Z-Saber]

Yeah, I think some of songs in the lower tiers are really easy, and some of the earlier ones are harder. Ah well.

Picked it up at BB. Of course, I already had it, so it's not like it means too much or anything. I do like the new guitar though. The buttons are way better.

EDIT: My last.fm sig thingy screams GH.

[Pookymeister]

Started on Hard and up to 7th tier - now im starting to have some trouble.

[Chacrana]

Yeah, I think some of songs in the lower tiers are really easy, and some of the earlier ones are harder. Ah well.

Picked it up at BB. Of course, I already had it, so it's not like it means too much or anything. I do like the new guitar though. The buttons are way better.

EDIT: My last.fm sig thingy screams GH.

Is the GH2 game sealed in the bundle?

[Pookymeister]

Is the GH2 game sealed in the bundle?
Yup

[Blind the Thief]

Oh God, I love this. My first real roadblock on Expert was Freya, but I finally managed to get it donw (thank you, Practice Mode). I jsut beat Crazy on You, and now I need to finish up that set.

Multiplayer, as expected, is AWESOME.


It's BS that I'm going to have to play on lower difficulties to unlock some guitars, though. Worst idea ever.

[buttasuperb]

Picked this up today, playing through on medium now just to get it out of the way.

Unfortunately when I pick progressive scan mode it shifts the picture up, and it's kinda annoying. Too bad there's no screen position adjust.

Oh well, this game is awesome.

[FriskyTanuki]

Oh God, I love this. My first real roadblock on Expert was Freya, but I finally managed to get it donw (thank you, Practice Mode). I jsut beat Crazy on You, and now I need to finish up that set.

Multiplayer, as expected, is AWESOME.


It's BS that I'm going to have to play on lower difficulties to unlock some guitars, though. Worst idea ever.
It's a good incentive to work your way up through the difficulties.

I just got my first encore. :D

[theGrue]

Phew, just beat all the main songs except Free Bird on Expert in one sitting (standing?). I think it might be time for a little break.

[mykevermin]

I had the inside of my right elbow tattooed today, and now I need to relax bending it for a week to let it heal.

Do you KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Again...sumbitch.

[CokeCola]

Oh God, I love this. My first real roadblock on Expert was Freya, but I finally managed to get it donw (thank you, Practice Mode). I jsut beat Crazy on You, and now I need to finish up that set.

I love this game and everything, but Freya can go to hell.

[Mr. Anderson]

Well, the wait was killing me, so I skipped last period to play GHII today. Me and my bud spent about 8 hours playing this damn game. Finished career on expert, unlocked all characters, a buncha guitars, all the bonus songs, the extra videos, and a few basses. I love this game.

[Blind the Thief]

It's a good incentive to work your way up through the difficulties.

I just got my first encore. :D

I think it's stupid they would do that, when they know how many people out there will be playing on Expert since they rocked the last one.

[Chacrana]

I love this game and everything, but Freya can go to hell.

Freya was pretty difficult for a song in the fourth set, but it's a good song overall.

[kennistond]

Anyone wanna help me?

Whenever I hit the blue or orange frets, they both light up when I am only pressing one of them.

Help!

[FriskyTanuki]

I think it's stupid they would do that, when they know how many people out there will be playing on Expert since they rocked the last one.
And there's a lot of people who aren't experts and will appreciate that they actually get some reason to go through the easy difficulty and learn the songs and get better.

[FriskyTanuki]

I had the inside of my right elbow tattooed today, and now I need to relax bending it for a week to let it heal.

Do you KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Again...sumbitch.
What's next? Are you gonna just break the arm? :lol:

[Mr. Anderson]

Oh god.. my wrist.... it hurts so bad... curse you Guitar Hero II!

[gofishn]

I've had a headache all night from playing this earlier. I guess there really is too much of a good thing.

[FriskyTanuki]

I got my ScoreHero sig working. :D I can't believe I'm ranked so high on easy.

[asianxcore]

It's BS that I'm going to have to play on lower difficulties to unlock some guitars, though. Worst idea ever.

I agree, I can understand why Red Octane did this...but yea, terrible idea.

I just tried "Shout at the Devil" on Easy, just to see how many songs I would have to do on Easy. Unfortunely the number was 28.

What difficulty is everyone starting on? I started on Hard and I'm having trouble with a couple of the songs on tier 6.

My fingertips hurt.

[mykevermin]

What's next? Are you gonna just break the arm? :lol:

I think it's more likely that I'll find out that my itinerary for the day involves an appointment to lay down in front of a moving car with both arms outstretched. I hate breaking appointments, you know.

[FriskyTanuki]

I think it's more likely that I'll find out that my itinerary for the day involves an appointment to lay down in front of a moving car with both arms outstretched. I hate breaking appointments, you know.
Either one works. :lol:

[evanft]

Dammit...I should have just preordered at my local GS insteads of online.

[nickmad]

Tonight Im gonna rock you tonight is fun. Loving that song.
The Buckethead track Jordan sucks ass.
Oh yeah...Thunderhorse...bass track....oh man my hands are going to fall off.

[Heavy-Sixer]

Anybody have a problem with a squeaky wammy bar? The wammy bar on the included guitar controller squeaks and it's really annoying. I don't have this problem with my old guitar controller. I don't feel like packing everything back up and taking it all back to Best Buy. Any ideas on an easy fix? Would WD40 be safe to use?

[Backlash]

Just got mine last night as well. I started on Medium and figured I'd work my way up to hard since I heard this one is more difficult, BUT... after one song it was too slow/boring so I had to go Hard.

I'm on the fourth tier now and I have a feeling when I get to around tier 6 or so I'm going to hit a roadblock and have to go through all of Medium just to unlock the songs for Coop and QuickPlay modes :(

[Consummate Canuck]

Picked up my preorder from best buy yesterday and started on expert with my roommates. We are currently stuck on the sixth tier. The game is awesome though. Definitely harder than the first one.

[gofishn]

Anyone see the new cherry guitar for sale separately yet, or is it even available? I need another guitar and would really prefer to get the new model rather than another one of the old ones.

[asianxcore]

Anyone see the new cherry guitar for sale separately yet, or is it even available?

Nope. But seeing how the first black/white SG was available a while after the bundle was released, I don't think its crazy to think they might do the same with the red one.

There's also a Red Octane wireless guitar, but I haven't talked to anyone that has gotten it yet.

Damn you "Freebird". Last song I need to beat on Hard. I got to 90% and then it ate me alive.

Anyone else think the Lamb of God cover is just downright terrible?

[mykevermin]

Is the GH2 guitar, aside from the improvements made to it, aesthetically identical to the limited Cherry Red SG Red Octane was selling online a year ago?

[Z-Saber]

Oh god.. my wrist.... it hurts so bad... curse you Guitar Hero II!Combine this with achy joints from working and you have a sore week for me.
I got my ScoreHero sig working. :D I can't believe I'm ranked so high on easy.Probably because no one is bothering to play Easy right now since they want to have fun and unlock crap later.
Is the GH2 guitar, aside from the improvements made to it, aesthetically identical to the limited Cherry Red SG Red Octane was selling online a year ago?I have the original Cherry Red SG. It's close, but there are a few differences. I'm at school so this is all from memory.

The new guitar isn't shiny, or at least less shiny. The color is close, but... well crap, I can't remember if it's deeper or brighter. Basically, you can tell them apart, but they are generally the same color, just different shades. The buttons are raised and more... mushy, less clicky. The entire guitar (frets, buttons, and body) has a different finish and feel (as in rubbing your finger along the surface, not generally playing feel). The plug is also hard to push into the PS2, meaning it's equally hard to pull out accidentally or on purpose. It also has a... well, I don't know how to describe it, but the cord coming out of the guitar has a little thing on it. I might take a picture later. It looks cooler, but I couldn't really say what it is. It's like a thing that prevents the cord from shorting by being pulled too much at an angle, sorta like what's on certain AC adapters and such.

I tried the new guitar with Hangar 18. I four-starred it again, but don't think I did any better. I will say I think the buttons feel a ton better. My only complaint is the whammy bar. Yes, it is a lot tighter, and will probably stay that way for a while, but it doesn't have great depth. With the original guitars, you could lower the notes really far without a lot of effort, but with this, it takes a lot more to get it to work at all. It's still better I think, but just different to me for now.

I'm going to go for some better star ratings, and see if I can nail those last few bonus songs. Jordan (as Tanuki witnessed briefly in the chatroom) whooped me from the get-go.

[Broccoli Storm]

There is another difference I've noticed and it's pretty significant, at least for me. It's a lot easier to accidentally (or purposely) activate your star power. This really sucks for me because I like to move around a little when I play and get into the music and I find myself turning my star power on all the time when I don't want to...that kind of sucks.

Anyway, does anyone know the speed code? Sorry if this has been asked already. I'm just curious to see how it works.

As for the game, I passed everything on Expert yesterday except the bonus songs. The only songs I had problems passing the first time were that song by The Living End (I failed right in the beginning), Hangar 18, and Freebird. The game is harder overall though.

[Mr. Anderson]

Beast and the Harlot has been stuck in my head all day. I barely got past the last tier last night on expert, so I wanna start trying to get some higher scores.

[evanft]

With the talk of a GH1 re-release, I made a post about it in the official GH forum:

Maybe they could re-release it with new stuff as a Greatest Hits title? Devil May Cry 3 and Midnight Club 3 both had additional features/changes when they became Greatest Hits titles, so it's not unprecedented. Here's what I would add:

1. HO/PO system from GH2.

2. Characters, costumes, and characters from GH2.

3. Unified unlock shop from GH2.

4. Make Trippolette and Graveyard Shift playable, if possible.

5. Face-off mode with different difficulties for each player.

6. Pro face-off mode.

7. HD Lag option.

8. GH1 saves automatically unlocks songs, characters, etc. that you already unlocked. Scores also show up, if possible.

9. Gold stars when you 100% songs.

10. Practice mode.

11. Make the keyboardist and bassist heroes.

12. "Arrange" mode for all the songs where parts that maybe weren't HO/PO before are now, maybe notes are changed based on possible inaccuracies, new star power placements, and three-note chords. The version can be selected before each song, except in career mode.

13. Co-op, if possible.

14. Generally improved graphics, including HD and widescreen support.

15. 4 separate career modes: Original, Original Arrange, New, and New Arrange. The New career mode will use some of GH2's venues, the encore system, etc. The Arrange option will, in addition to changing the songs slightly, may change their tiers, and may even make the bonus songs part of the career mode. The unlock shop will be unified across all four versions.

16. Improved sound.

17. Maybe rerecord some of the covers, or at least some of the vocals, if possible.

18. 10-20 new bonus tracks, if possible

[Strell]

No, evanft.

These fuckers are killing my wallet enough as is that I don't need another reason to buy GH1 again. :(

[FriskyTanuki]

Probably because no one is bothering to play Easy right now since they want to have fun and unlock crap later.
Excuse me for trying to get used to the songs first before challenging myself.

Another great addition. When in quick play, if you've entered your name once onto one of the high scores, it'll come up for you automatically when you complete successive songs. That's nice because it's time-consuming to keep re-entering it after every song.

Edit: It seems to remember your name even if you exit the quick play menu.

[evanft]

No, evanft.

These fuckers are killing my wallet enough as is that I don't need another reason to buy GH1 again. :(

You'd so fucking buy it for $20, though.

[Strell]

You'd so fucking buy it for $20, though.

That's my point! :(

[asianxcore]

Excuse me for trying to get used to the songs first before challenging myself.


I played through the "Easy" setting in Career Mode on the first GH game. At the time I was still getting used to the mechanics of the game as well as the songs.

I'm trying to grind through "Easy" so that I can unlock more guitars, but I find with the new songs, they are much much longer than the original GH songs as a whole, which makes the experience even more excruciating

[Backlash]

13. Co-op, if possible.

14. Generally improved graphics, including HD and widescreen support.

16. Improved sound.

17. Maybe rerecord some of the covers, or at least some of the vocals, if possible.

18. 10-20 new bonus tracks, if possible


You basically want them to make a whole new GH game with the same songs as the first one (plus new songs).

[Mr. Anderson]

Either one works. :lol:

How did you get that sig to work? Is there a FAQ page?

[evanft]

You basically want them to make a whole new GH game with the same songs as the first one (plus new songs).

See that little "if possible" in most of those? Yeah.

[Z-Saber]

Excuse me for trying to get used to the songs first before challenging myself.

Another great addition. When in quick play, if you've entered your name once onto one of the high scores, it'll come up for you automatically when you complete successive songs. That's nice because it's time-consuming to keep re-entering it after every song.

Edit: It seems to remember your name even if you exit the quick play menu.I didn't mean that in a condescending way. It's just the truth. Hardcore GH fans want to challenge themselves from the start and are worrying about scoring perfectly on Easy later.

Also, I haven't played Quick Play yet, but that was a huge gripe from the first one. Glad they fixed it.

[FriskyTanuki]

How did you get that sig to work? Is there a FAQ page?
I'll see if I can simplify this:

If you have contribution points (w/GHII and a digital camera, it's easy right now), you just buy the upgrade in their store. That lets you use the sig image that I'm using right now.

If you have all of that, then you just insert this

http://www.scorehero.com/images/userstats/X.png (http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=X&diff=Y)
Replace your user ID number, which you can find by clicking on your username on the homepage just after you make a submission, with X and the difficulty you want to link to for Y (1=easy, 2=medium, 3=hard, 4=expert).

That's about the jist of it. If you're having any trouble let me know or consult their boards as they have a topic or two on the subject.

On another subject, I was surprised that YYZ was easier (got a 5) than the other songs in its set (4's and 3's) on medium.

[Mr. Anderson]

I'll see if I can simplify this:

If you have contribution points (w/GHII and a digital camera, it's easy right now), you just buy the upgrade in their store. That lets you use the sig image that I'm using right now.

If you have all of that, then you just insert this


Replace your user ID number, which you can find by clicking on your username on the homepage just after you make a submission, with X and the difficulty you want to link to for Y (1=easy, 2=medium, 3=hard, 4=expert).

That's about the jist of it. If you're having any trouble let me know or consult their boards as they have a topic or two on the subject.

On another subject, I was surprised that YYZ was easier (got a 5) than the other songs in its set (4's and 3's) on medium.

Thanks. I don't have a camera, but I can borrow my girlfriend's soon. In other news, I five starred Beast and the Harlot on Expert. This game fucking owns.

[VanillaGorilla]

See that little "if possible" in most of those? Yeah.roster update

[evanft]

roster update

Wow, you're retarded:

1. Note how it says "as a greatest hits title"? That means it'll be $20 for the new stuff instead of the usual $50-$60 charged by EA.

2. The change to the HO/PO system would fundamentally change the way a lot of songs are played.

3. The practice mode would allow people who didn't much past medium to play on the harder difficulties and nail the harder songs.

4. The relrelease would be sold and advertised as a rerelease, not a sequel.

5. Shut the fuck up.

[Z-Saber]

Wow, you're retarded:

1. Note how it says "as a greatest hits title"? That means it'll be $20 for the new stuff instead of the usual $50-$60 charged by EA.

2. The change to the HO/PO system would fundamentally change the way a lot of songs are played.

3. The practice mode would allow people who didn't much past medium to play on the harder difficulties and nail the harder songs.

4. The relrelease ould be sold and advertised as a rerelease, not a sequel.

5. Shut the fuck up.All five points are true and seperate this from any kind of roster update.

[evanft]

Thank you Z-Saber.

According to GS, my game will show up tomorrow.

[urzishra14]

if the songs are anything like the ones on the PS mag demo.. i started on hard .. medium was too easy for me and expert i needed a few play throughs to get them down (i can't afford the game until next wednesday.. payday)

EDIT: .. in addition though.. most rythem game sequels are just roster updates, no different from sports games.. each offer new songs/players and new modes to play in.. i see GH as no different except rhytem gamers like that each game plays exactly the same with different songs and unlike DDR there are no repeats (which is a good thing IMO)

[evanft]

The game showed up just as I was leaving for school. Motherfucker.

EDIT: .. in addition though.. most rythem game sequels are just roster updates, no different from sports games.. each offer new songs/players and new modes to play in.. i see GH as no different except rhytem gamers like that each game plays exactly the same with different songs and unlike DDR there are no repeats (which is a good thing IMO)

But changing players on a team does little to the actual playing experience, while completely changing the song list does, especially when those songs are more difficult and varied than in the game before it and there are new modes and gameplay tweaks that greatly enhance and/or add to the experience.

[mcgavin27]

if the songs are anything like the ones on the PS mag demo.. i started on hard .. medium was too easy for me and expert i needed a few play throughs to get them down (i can't afford the game until next wednesday.. payday)

EDIT: .. in addition though.. most rythem game sequels are just roster updates, no different from sports games.. each offer new songs/players and new modes to play in.. i see GH as no different except rhytem gamers like that each game plays exactly the same with different songs and unlike DDR there are no repeats (which is a good thing IMO)
No repeats is good but I do really want to play More than a feeling and Killer Queen on Co-op. I would like if they didn't inlcude the same songs but a few (3-4) wouldn't be that bad.

[Z-Saber]

I found the hardest song(s). It might be Jordan by Buckethead, as I'm about to tackle it for the first time since the first day I got GH2 and I don't remember it well, but Six by All That Remains has me in immense and sincere pain right now. I'm struggling to type this. Go into practice mode, pick Expert, and just let the song play at full speed. Heck, attempt it at the slowest. It's uber.

EDIT: Screw what I just said. Jordan starts out semi-hard and becomes impossible. The hardest solo/not solo you've ever seen. Buckethead owns the title of hardest Guitar Hero song without question.

[buttasuperb]

The Buckethead song is insane and awesome.

Haven't tried it on expert yet, but best I did was 86% on hard. The solo is crazy.

[Z-Saber]

Best I can get is 57% on Expert. Even on slowest I can't do well.

[Chacrana]

Is Buckethead a good song though?

[Blind the Thief]

I've been out the last couple days, so let's bring things up to speed:

1. evanft - Any combination of those changes would definitely get my money...let's hope it happens, hm? :) (also, Magilla Gorilla is the only person on this board on my ignore list...it's obvious why)

2. Z-Saber - Buckethead is crazy. I may never do it.

3. I was stuck on that stupid Stray Cats song on Expert for a day, and FINALLY got it. After that, I blew through the rest of the songs until

4. I ran into Reverend Horton Heat. fuck this song. I just can't do it right now. My fingers hurt.

5. The combination of #3 and #4 has confirmed my belief that rockabilly is, in fact, one of the worst genres of music.

6. Laid to Rest, as I expected, wasn't too difficult. fuck you, asianxcore. :)

7. It's kind of boring to play, but I appreciate that they included a doom metal song (Megasus).

[Z-Saber]

If I'm not mistaken, I hated the Megasus song.

[mykevermin]

5. The combination of #3 and #4 has confirmed my belief that rockabilly is, in fact, one of the worst genres of music.

Not in the fucking slightest. Then again, Stray Cats and The Rev are sorta "Rockabilly Primer," if you will.

[Calamityuponthee]

I beat Miserlou, and Hangar 18 on my second try, freebird on my first try (expert).

Then I ran into Jordan, and holy shit.. this song whoops my ass every time. I got to 58%, and my starpower gave out and I was done. Insane.

[Apossum]

this game gives me motion sickness :lol:

if I play a couple songs in a row, wherever i look looks like it's scrolling up :puke:

[FriskyTanuki]

this game gives me motion sickness :lol:

if I play a couple songs in a row, wherever i look looks like it's scrolling up :puke:
I get the same feeling sometimes, but it scrolls down and I don't get sick from it.

[Apossum]

I get the same feeling sometimes, but it scrolls down and I don't get sick from it.


down, up, same difference ;)

[evanft]

I fucking love this game. Jessica and Crazy on You rule.

[Backlash]

I fucking love this game. Jessica and Crazy on You rule.

Agreed. So far tier 6 is my fav to play.

[Blind the Thief]

I fucking love this game. Jessica and Crazy on You rule.

Both are easily some of the best songs in the game. So good.

[Z-Saber]

I'll try to remember what my least favorite is. Yes We Can is automatically the worst to everyone, so I'm looking for the second worst. I know Freya is probably my least favorite to play, and the song itself is pretty dull.

[karsh]

It may be a bit easy, but I think Tier 2 is my favorite. I just have way too much fun playing Message in a Bottle and Carry on My Wayward Son. Plus Heart Shaped Box and Strutter are pretty fun too.

[evanft]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/evanft/GHthread.jpg

[Blind the Thief]

I'll try to remember what my least favorite is. Yes We Can is automatically the worst to everyone, so I'm looking for the second worst. I know Freya is probably my least favorite to play, and the song itself is pretty dull.

You fail at life. The Sword kicks ass. (I do agree, it's not the most fun to play, though)


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/evanft/GHthread.jpg

This thread is so metal. I love this.

[FriskyTanuki]

Why are there songs that throw in notes that they're not supposed to? On medium, Arterial Black throws an orange in there and I missed it. There are a few that throw in blues on their easy versions.

I have to agree that Yes We Can sucks and I have to wonder why it's in Guitar Hero at all, as it sounds more like a tribal song that anything related to Rock.

[Blind the Thief]

I thought Elephant Bones was going to be my favorite bonus track, as it sounds sweet, but then I got that Bang Camaro song...damn, that song is pure rock and roll. It totally sounds awesome.

[Mr. Anderson]

I thought Elephant Bones was going to be my favorite bonus track, as it sounds sweet, but then I got that Bang Camaro song...damn, that song is pure rock and roll. It totally sounds awesome.

I think my favorite bonus song is probably Thunderhorse right now. Raw Dog really surprised me in it's high levels of F-U-N LAWL, but I haven't played too many other extra songs.

[Z-Saber]

Why are there songs that throw in notes that they're not supposed to? On medium, Arterial Black throws an orange in there and I missed it. There are a few that throw in blues on their easy versions.
Probably because this game is generally harder in every way, so throwing in a note or two that was completely forbidden on a lower difficulty in the original is acceptable and should be expected.

[karsh]

Anyone have any idea why my copy of the game seems to enjoy doing this: I've now had it twice say my save file was corrupted and I had to start over. It's starting to get really annoying so I figure I might as well see if anyone else is having it do this.

[Broccoli Storm]

Personally, I feel that Yes I Can is actually better than their song from the other game. That doesn't make it any good, but I would much rather play Yes I Can than the Megasus bonus song, Institutionalized, Psychobilly and some of the other shitty bonus songs.

[FriskyTanuki]

Probably because this game is generally harder in every way, so throwing in a note or two that was completely forbidden on a lower difficulty in the original is acceptable and should be expected.
The original had songs like that too, especially Guitar Hero. It's kind of a cheap trick.

[Z-Saber]

Anyone have any idea why my copy of the game seems to enjoy doing this: I've now had it twice say my save file was corrupted and I had to start over. It's starting to get really annoying so I figure I might as well see if anyone else is having it do this.Sounds like a corrupted memory card, even if it's only doing that for this game. Solution? Buy/use a different one.
The original had songs like that too, especially Guitar Hero. It's kind of a cheap trick.I don't recall Guitar Hero having any orange notes, but then again, I last played on Medium in... February?

[karsh]

Sounds like a corrupted memory card, even if it's only doing that for this game. Solution? Buy/use a different one.

Yeah, I'm prolly gonna switch it to my other memory card but I find it weird that it's only doing it for GH2 and no other game. Plus it's the newer of my two memory cards.

[FriskyTanuki]

I don't recall Guitar Hero having any orange notes, but then again, I last played on Medium in... February?
This was on easy, not medium.

[Z-Saber]

This was on easy, not medium.Bah, it was probably around the same time period either way.

[FriskyTanuki]

Has anybody else that has used Judy Nails noticed that she has a hole in the back of her head during the end of song celebration? :lol:

[Blind the Thief]

Has anybody else that has used Judy Nails noticed that she has a hole in the back of her head during the end of song celebration? :lol:

Sorry, I use Pandora, but I'll try out Judy tomorrow and see if I notice anything.




I hate Psychobilly Freakout. I'm never going to see the last 6 songs in this game.

[FriskyTanuki]

Sorry, I use Pandora, but I'll try out Judy tomorrow and see if I notice anything.
I believe you'll have to use her alternate costume, as her default costume's hair covers up the back of her head.

[DJ K8E]

I'll try to remember what my least favorite is. Yes We Can is automatically the worst to everyone, so I'm looking for the second worst. I know Freya is probably my least favorite to play, and the song itself is pretty dull.
That would be Red Lottery. The best song bonus on the other hand is Gemini, hands down. Other than that, and Trogdor, the bonuses are kinda disappointing.

[evanft]

Damn you Living End!!! It's the only main song I haven't 5* on medium. DAMN YOU!!!

I also really wish they would just straight up tell you what the cutoffs are for 4* and 5* scores. I don't feel like waiting for more scores to be submitted to ScoreHero, dammit!

[sying]

That would be Red Lottery. The best song bonus on the other hand is Gemini, hands down. Other than that, and Trogdor, the bonuses are kinda disappointing.

And the thatched roof cottages!!!!!!

[Chacrana]

That would be Red Lottery. The best song bonus on the other hand is Gemini, hands down. Other than that, and Trogdor, the bonuses are kinda disappointing.

The fact that Trogdor was included is awesome. I never would've thought to put that in the game.

[evanft]

DJ K8E has bad taste in music.

[Mr. Anderson]

I am in love with Beast and the Harlot. Song is so fucking fun.

[Blind the Thief]

The novelty of Trogdor's inclusion has worn off. Meh.

[FriskyTanuki]

I fucking hate Woman's Zerg rush of HOPO's in the middle of the song. I do like how they've give you the option to practice the song if you fail it.

[Z-Saber]

I fucking hate Woman's Zerg rush of HOPO's in the middle of the song.Nice comparison.

[Blind the Thief]

I DID IT! fuck you, Psychobilly Freakout. You're my bitch now.

[Chacrana]

I DID IT! fuck you, Psychobilly Freakout. You're my bitch now.

Nice. That song was a bitch to get through the first time.

I finished Hangar 18 on expert today so I was happy about that. Haven't been playing too much of the game though since I started Final Fantasy XII...

[Pookymeister]

I hate Psychobilly Freakout. I'm never going to see the last 6 songs in this game.


I was having trouble with this on expert, FINALLY beat it and started to play YYZ. Then the damn game FROZE halfway thru. I never had a game freeze on me before.

So, i had to beat psychobilly again :cry:

[Mr. Anderson]

I would still probably get stuck on Psychobilly if I haven't played the shit out of it at EB. Speaking of which, my EB has the retail GHII on the PS2. They even put a memory card in it, and the manager told me they were gonna have a tournament. Needless to say, I've been at EB way too much lately.

[Z-Saber]

So, i had to beat psychobilly again :cry:It saves after every song, so I'm confused as to how you beat Psychobilly, started another song, and had to play Psychobilly over again.

[Pookymeister]

It saves after every song, so I'm confused as to how you beat Psychobilly, started another song, and had to play Psychobilly over again.


It doesn't seem save when you go from 4th song to Encore

[Z-Saber]

It doesn't seem save when you go from 4th song to EncoreAh, there we go. Forgot about that since I already beat it.

[evanft]

The Grim Ripper rules. That is all. Carry on.....my wayward sooooooooooon!!!

[asianxcore]

I beat the game recently on Hard. Probably will go back soon and try to unlock a couple guitars on Medium, and try out Expert (which I know will kill me).

What is everyone's favorite songs to play so far?

[Mr. Anderson]

I beat the game recently on Hard. Probably will go back soon and try to unlock a couple guitars on Medium, and try out Expert (which I know will kill me).

What is everyone's favorite songs to play so far?

Beast and the Harlot on expert. By far.

[Broccoli Storm]

I don't know if this has come up yet, but does anyone have any idea how they find the people who (in some cases at least) have close vocal matches for the songs? Do they just post wanted ads saying "If you sound like Dave Grohl, call us?"

Anyway...favorite songs right now to play are Message in a Bottle, the Freezepop song, Thunderhorse, Gemini, and Beast and the Harlot...

[FriskyTanuki]

I don't know if this has come up yet, but does anyone have any idea how they find the people who (in some cases at least) have close vocal matches for the songs? Do they just post wanted ads saying "If you sound like Dave Grohl, call us?"
I'm pretty sure that they have a rather large database full of VA's that go along with bands/songs that they'd like to have in the game.

[asianxcore]

realized I didn't post my favorite songs to play....

-Stone Temple Pilots- "Trippin On A Hole..."
-Anthrax- "Madhouse"
-Every Time I Die- "The New Black"
-Heart- "Crazy On You"
-Shadows Fall- "The Light That Blinds"
-Kiss- "Strutter"
-Freezepop- "Less Talk More Rokk"
-Megadeth- "Hanger 18"

Geez. That's a lot of songs.

[Blind the Thief]

My favorites to play (all on Expert, of course) from the track list are Madhouse, Carry on my Wayward Son, Sweet Child O' Mine (the last two both have the sort of slower but wildly alternating notes that are fun), and of course Strutter (not just a blast to play, but great to sing along to).

As for the bonus songs, I like playing Elephant Bones, Raw Dog, and Push Push (Lady Lightning). That last one is so rock 'n' roll, it's ridiculous.

[Z-Saber]

I need to get better at Push Push. I watched the credits (freaking long) and wanted to play it so badly afterward. I forgot how hard it was, or rather how bad I am at it.

[Roufuss]

Not sure if this is true or not, but someone said you can get the Grim Ripper from Guitar Hero 2 in Tony Hawk's Project 8.... kinda cool if you can ;)

[karsh]

Anyone have any tips for me? I never quite managed to fully transition from Medium to Hard in GH1 and now I'm reaching the same barrier in GH2. I'm not quite sure what the best way to position my hand is so that I can hit all 5 fret buttons. Any tips would be great.

[Backlash]

I think you just have to get used to moving your hand up and down the neck from Green - Blue to Red - Orange. As you get to know the songs better, you'll start to figure out for particular sections of songs whether your hand should be at green or at orange.

It's really hard to sight read the songs on hard and expert, b/c you'll be reacting to the notes by moving your hand, rather than knowing ahead of time when you'll need to move your hand. At least, this is true for me.

[Pookymeister]

OMG Six is raping me on expert.

[Blind the Thief]

I think you just have to get used to moving your hand up and down the neck from Green - Blue to Red - Orange. As you get to know the songs better, you'll start to figure out for particular sections of songs whether your hand should be at green or at orange.

It's really hard to sight read the songs on hard and expert, b/c you'll be reacting to the notes by moving your hand, rather than knowing ahead of time when you'll need to move your hand. At least, this is true for me.

Yeah, like Backlash said, the only way to do this is to learn to shift your hands.

I found, when I was learning to do it, the best way was to always stay shifted down once (that is, index fingero n Red, pinky on Orange), and if green comes up you can shift back up quickly (since your used to having oyur index on Green - pinky on Blue, this will feel more comfortable and thus won't be hard to forget where your hands are when you shift).

Trust me, it's rough at first (I thought the transition from Medium to Hard was the hardest one to do), but keep at it and you'll be shifting like the pros in no time.

[Backlash]

Can someone give me some advice for Freebird? It's the last song I need to beat on Hard.

In particular, I can't seem to play Solo J at all. This is the one that has the BYR triples over and over, and then moves to YO alternating, and then moves to RB alternating.

Even on the slowest speed in the practice setting I can't get any HO or PO to work. :( I can do them on other songs (e.g. the beginning of Carry Me Home) without much problem, but the damn things just don't seem to work on Freebird. When do you need to strum and can it be done with HO, b/c PO are much harder for me?

[gofishn]

My roommate finally got component cables for his PS2 and WOW, what a difference progressive scan makes on an HDTV. It looks like a whole new game now since there's an entire level of detail that was impossible to see before. Everything looks smoother, the colors are brighter, and pretty much everything just has a much cleaner look to it.

[Santurio]

My roommate finally got component cables for his PS2 and WOW, what a difference progressive scan makes on an HDTV. It looks like a whole new game now since there's an entire level of detail that was impossible to see before. Everything looks smoother, the colors are brighter, and pretty much everything just has a much cleaner look to it.
you got that right

[Blind the Thief]

I think you just have to get used to moving your hand up and down the neck from Green - Blue to Red - Orange. As you get to know the songs better, you'll start to figure out for particular sections of songs whether your hand should be at green or at orange.

It's really hard to sight read the songs on hard and expert, b/c you'll be reacting to the notes by moving your hand, rather than knowing ahead of time when you'll need to move your hand. At least, this is true for me.

I'm not sure how to do it, but I would suggest looking at it on the slowest setting, figuring out where your hands should be (i.e. when to strum when to HO/PO), and then put the speed up one or two settings higher and try it out.

[Z-Saber]

If anyone's interested, I'm in the chatroom, playing Bang Your Head (Quiet Riot) with video and sound.

[Roufuss]

I finally got this game.... I am so fucking psyched to start playing.

$6 out of pocket thanks to a local game store :D

[Chacrana]

I finally got around to playing the game again and I finished Freebird... 4 starred it. I was pretty happy.

[Roufuss]

This game is fucking amazing... I'm sad I didn't pick it up earlier. I was up until 5:30 am playing it because I just had to do "one more song". I'm playing it on easy and I really like the difficulty progression, it's alot better than in, say, Beatmania.

Just being able to play "Killing in the Name Of" is so very awesome.

[Z-Saber]

Now that I have a 360, I'm wondering what I'll do when that version comes out. Graphics certainly aren't a reason to buy a second game AND guitar, but additional content and downloadable songs might be.

I'm really hoping it sucks so I don't have to double dip on an $80/$90 game and controller.

[Roufuss]

Now that I have a 360, I'm wondering what I'll do when that version comes out. Graphics certainly aren't a reason to buy a second game AND guitar, but additional content and downloadable songs might be.

I'm really hoping it sucks so I don't have to double dip on an $80/$90 game and controller.

Achievements will make it worth it for me, I think... and I have to imagine they will add more / different songs to get people to double dip.

What about online multiplayer?

[Z-Saber]

Achievements will make it worth it for me, I think... and I have to imagine they will add more / different songs to get people to double dip.

What about online multiplayer?Achievements would be cool, but online multiplayer means nothing, except for people with the camera. Playing with just a screen showing some other guy missing notes? Boring. Watching him rock out with his c*** out? Aside from gross, sorta fun.

[Roufuss]

Achievements would be cool, but online multiplayer means nothing, except for people with the camera. Playing with just a screen showing some other guy missing notes? Boring. Watching him rock out with his c*** out? Aside from gross, sorta fun.

:rofl:

I just have that feeling they are going to add SOMETHING to make us rebuy it. Shit, I'm this close to just running out and buying Guitar Hero 1 and I only played 3 or 4 hours of GH 2, so I think I'll buy it on the 360 regardless. Is the 360 version just going to be GH 1, or will it be both GH 1 AND GH 2?

That dude who does the cover for Killing in the Name Of.... he's not so good.

[espy605]

I don't know if this has come up yet, but does anyone have any idea how they find the people who (in some cases at least) have close vocal matches for the songs? Do they just post wanted ads saying "If you sound like Dave Grohl, call us?"

Harmonix has been doing Karaoke Revolution for a few years now which also features covers, and I think they contract much of the music work for both games to the company you see in GH1's bonus video about songs. Wave something. It's probably cheaper for them to contract the work out rather than rent or build a professional recording studio.

[mcgavin27]

Harmonix has been doing Karaoke Revolution for a few years now which also features covers, and I think they contract much of the music work for both games to the company you see in GH1's bonus video about songs. Wave something. It's probably cheaper for them to contract the work out rather than rent or build a professional recording studio.
Wavesound, I believe.

[Roufuss]

Ok, what's the correct way to play the strum button?

Right now I'm using my thumb to push it down when I need to, or should I be holding it like a guitar pick?

[Z-Saber]

Either way. I do both. I thumb mostly when it's easier, slower stuff. For anything that needs an up/down alternating strum, I hold it like a pick. Some people are fast enough that they can strum quickly just with their thumb.

[defiance_17]

Ok, what's the correct way to play the strum button?

Right now I'm using my thumb to push it down when I need to, or should I be holding it like a guitar pick?

I hold it like a pick so I can play up and down, but a lot of my friends play like you and do just fine (better than me, actually). I don't think there's a "correct" way--rock however you want to.

I wish I could play right handed, though. The strap is a bitch playing lefty, and I have to hit the whammy bar with my fucking wrist. It was annoying the hell out of me last night (finally).

[Roufuss]

Awesome, thanks for the tip. Got through my little "career" on easy, just have to go back and 5 star some things.. I think I 5 star'd the last three sets, so it shouldn't take long.

Tried a few songs on medium and damn, it's like the game just keeps getting better the better I get.

I also unlocked the Dethklok song, that one is rad.

This game needs more heavy metal, the last set was AWESOME, and less stuff like the set before it with things like Heart =/

[Chacrana]

Bah, Heart was awesome in this game. Carry on my Wayward Son was really good too.

Freebird is easy to play now on expert....

[Roufuss]

Bah, Heart was awesome in this game. Carry on my Wayward Son was really good too.

Freebird is easy to play now on expert....

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong song... there are some songs that are way too mellow and I just hate playing through them. I like my songs to kick ass and bust out some intense solo's.

Just listening to some of the bonus tracks, some of them seem really mellow and I don't think I'll find myself playing them often.

[Backlash]

If you are just learning to play do yourself a favor and learn how to strum both up and down rather than just down. It makes many of the songs on Hard and Expoert much easier.

[espy605]

Now that I have a 360, I'm wondering what I'll do when that version comes out. Graphics certainly aren't a reason to buy a second game AND guitar, but additional content and downloadable songs might be.


If it's anything like Karaoke Revolution, also a Harmonix franchise, they ported Karaoke Revolution 1 to the Xbox and added several Motown songs and the ability to download about a dozen more songs. Not bad, but maybe not worth double dipping. However, when they released Karaoke Revolution Party, they made it possible to download almost all the songs from the original KR, as well as KR 1-3 from the PS2, making it possible to have over a hundred something songs in a single game. I think it was about $1 a song, or a batch price for all of them. They'll probably use a similar scheme since X360's version is based on Guitar Hero 2, so you'll be able to pay to download GH1 songs.

However, because of the popularity of the game with gamers and actual musicians, Harmonix has been talking about allowing indie bands to pay to have their games as downloadable content, so it's possible we'll see a lot of stuff you can buy, but I don't know if the average player will pay good money for unknown songs from people they've never heard of.

Shit, I'm this close to just running out and buying Guitar Hero 1 and I only played 3 or 4 hours of GH 2, so I think I'll buy it on the 360 regardless. Is the 360 version just going to be GH 1, or will it be both GH 1 AND GH 2?


I think the 360 version is GH2 only, but since they already have the GH1 songs done, they'll probably make it downloadable content (for like $20).

[Pookymeister]

I think the 360 version is GH2 only, but since they already have the GH1 songs done, they'll probably make it downloadable content (for like $20).

That would be neat. There are a bunch of songs from GH1 id like to play with the easier HOPO's

[espy605]

That would be neat. There are a bunch of songs from GH1 id like to play with the easier HOPO's

I only have GH1. How did the HOPOs change? I'm still struggling my way through Hard.

[Pookymeister]

I only have GH1. How did the HOPOs change? I'm still struggling my way through Hard.

You don't have to hit them perfectly anymore in GH2. In GH1, i never used HOPO's - but in GH2 i use them all the time.

[Roufuss]

Well, I finally 5 star'ed everything on easy, not so bad at all.

For one, I tried to do a song in hard mode, and it completely destroyed me.

[Pookymeister]

Well, I finally 5 star'ed everything on easy, not so bad at all.

For one, I tried to do a song in hard mode, and it completely destroyed me.


Heres how i played my GH's.

GH1 - First time thru on Medium. Second time Expert.
GH2 - Hard, then Expert(can't beat last two songs , and two of the bonus ones on expert).

Maybe you should try medium before Hard - Hard throws in more buttons than easy did.

[Roufuss]

Heres how i played my GH's.

GH1 - First time thru on Medium. Second time Expert.
GH2 - Hard, then Expert(can't beat last two songs , and two of the bonus ones on expert).

Maybe you should try medium before Hard - Hard throws in more buttons than easy did.

Haha, I've done Tier 1 on Medium with 3 and 4 stars, sometimes 5 and some songs like the encore one.

I was just doing the song on hard for the hell of it ;)

How am I supposed to hit all 5 keys on the guitar though? I only have four fingers to use :( Unless I'm supposed to use my thumb?

[Pookymeister]

Haha, I've done Tier 1 on Medium with 3 and 4 stars, sometimes 5 and some songs like the encore one.

I was just doing the song on hard for the hell of it ;)

How am I supposed to hit all 5 keys on the guitar though? I only have four fingers to use :( Unless I'm supposed to use my thumb?

The max you have to hit at once is 3 - and thats not too common.

[Roufuss]

The max you have to hit at once is 3 - and thats not too common.

I did Thunderhorse on hard mode and there were times I had to go across the whole guitar hitting all 5 buttons =/

Any tips? I mean, what should my finger placement even be like?

[Pookymeister]

I did Thunderhorse on hard mode and there were times I had to go across the whole guitar hitting all 5 buttons =/

Any tips? I mean, what should my finger placement even be like?

oh, there are plenty of those types of progressions, i meant hitting 3 buttons at the same exact time 8-)

i either use all 4 fingers and slide pinky for the 5th, or use first two finger from thumb twice in a sliding motion and third finger for the 5th note...if that makes sense

[Roufuss]

oh, there are plenty of those types of progressions, i meant hitting 3 buttons at the same exact time 8-)

i either use all 4 fingers and slide pinky for the 5th, or use first two finger from thumb twice in a sliding motion and third finger for the 5th note...if that makes sense

Haha yea, it definitely does... I'm just having problems getting my pinky to work right ;)

I guess it just boils down to practice!

[defiance_17]

Haha yea, it definitely does... I'm just having problems getting my pinky to work right ;)

I guess it just boils down to practice!

Yeah, I was absolutely terrible when I first started. I've never played an instrument before, and when I started getting my pinky involved with it, I realized my hand just couldn't take the pressure. I was cramping up after a half an hour or so. I've improved quite a bit, so stick with it.

With GH1, the difficulty seemed to ramp perfectly, but I can't say the same for the second one. From Medium to Hard is a huge difference.

[espy605]

For one, I tried to do a song in hard mode, and it completely destroyed me.
The game is somewhat designed to get harder within one difficulty, so by the time you do tier 4 or 5 on medium, you can at least finish a few songs on tier 1 hard. Pooky seems to agree at least for GH1.


Any tips? I mean, what should my finger placement even be like?
The biggest difference between medium and hard is that due to adding a fifth fret button, you have to slide your hand up and down the neck. There's no way to get around that.

You get used to doing a lot of sliding and improvised hand positions depending on what you're playing. But because of that, you have to have some knowledge beforehand of what you're playing, especially when you get to expert and it gets too difficult to play by sight. Some hand positions you'll only use for certain parts of certain songs.

At first I hated it, but it becomes really gratifying when you're sliding all over the place and you surprise yourself that your streak isn't broken.

I'm just having problems getting my pinky to work right ;) I know some people that only use their first three fingers. They have to do more sliding, but it works for them. The pinky by nature is less dexterious and weaker, so it's more difficult forcing it to do quicker note changes.

There are GH FAQs actually with tips and techniques for hand positions and other ideas. I read a few and it gave me some good ideas. It's true, though, you only get better with practice.



Oh, by the way, I don't know if it's been said, but the GH SG Guitar is compatible with the import game Guitar Freaks and Drum Mania: Masterpiece Silver. It's the only GF game that works with the GH guitar because you can customize your buttons. I don't know how good it is, though.
(http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/934053.html)

[Z-Saber]

Freebird is easy to play now on expert....Good for you. Next task: 100% Jordan on Expert. Good luck. :lol:

[Roufuss]

Thanks for all the tips!!

[Roufuss]

This is one of the very few games I've played where I actually feel myself getting better the more I play. Medium was once pretty daunting but now I'm 5 starring stuff easily!

I love this game.

BTW, I hope Guitar Hero 3 gives you the option to change your bandmates... the lead singer is such a douche bag looking tard.

[Logain8955]

I finally just got into Tier 8 on Expert and beat Misirlou.


Sweet monkey jeebus, my right arm hurts like hell now.