Who here is 1080p ready?

[Zoglog]

Just out of curiosity I'm wondering who here is actually even 1080p ready. I have a feeling not many people will be when the ps3 launches. But I guess sense for the price of the PS3 that anyone who is willing to pay that much for one might just have a 1080p TV. Oh yeah and by 1080p ready I mean your TV can display At 1080p, Not just that it'll accept a 1080p signal and downscale or DLP 1080p wobble technology.

Personally I just returned my 1080p 37" Sceptre to costco for a 42" Westinghouse 1080p. (Mainly for the extra ports)

[SMMM]

Remember that the net is full of tech geeks that love their home theater systems.

[rodeojones903]

I will be 1080p ready. I ordered the Samsung 40" 1080p LCD from Best Buy and it comes in Friday. Its already paid for, so I voted yes. :D

[Richlough]

I have an HDTV with 480p & 1080i only .

I chose #3 . #4 would be lying .

[whoknows]

I chose #4, since I have no HDTV and I don't plan to anytime soon...I still plan to get a PS3 though :D

[js1]

I chose #4, since I have no HDTV and I don't plan to anytime soon...I still plan to get a PS3 though :D

Ha ha! you suck!! Just kidding.;) I don't have either, but I am saving towards one, i'll get the tv before I end up getting the ps3 though.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I think Sony and Microsoft have done a good job convincing technophiles that they actually care about video games.

[Ivanhoe]

i dont plan on getting hdtv until 2010 ish

so the 499 ps3 is fine by me :)

[pdiscool]

Was wondering guys how would you list best manufactureers for hdtv, especially in 1080p. Also how does westington stack up in quality and features compared to the big companies? I have been seeing alot of westington tvs lately and they have been pretty cheap also.

[jkam]

I'm #4. HD is over rated. It basically gives people the chance to fill the void in their life by spending a ridiculous amount of money on a TV. They can show all their friends how cool they are and tell them how much money they spent on their latest technological wonder. I'm paying no interest at Best Buy for a year! In reality what you have is a nice TV with a sharper image. Yes I have seen and even played games on a HDTV and it looks nice but that is about it. For those of you who own one and say its so amazing I can never go back then I feel bad for you because you would have to throw away all your non-HD games which include some amazing games. Yes I can afford to buy a HDTV but I will wait until they cost about what TVs do now. Remember if a game looks good but sucks it still sucks.

[Ravenlunatic]

Have a 56 inch samsung 1080

[js1]

#1.In reality what you have is a nice TV with a sharper image.


#2. I feel bad for you because you would have to throw away all your non-HD games which include some amazing games.


#1.That's the point of hdtv correct? Makes things you watch sharper ,clearer . I've never heard anyone say hdtv is the coming of christ in a box.(or do anything crazy)

#2.You don't have to throw away non hd games, non hd games still look better on a hdtv, than a regular tv.

[friedram]

Just look at my Sig. 62 inches of 1080p love baby!

[jkam]

That's the point of hdtv correct? Makes things you watch sharper ,clearer . I've never heard anyone say hdtv is the coming of christ in a box.(or do anything crazy)

It is definitely the point. The way some people talk you would think it is.



You don't have to throw away non hd games, non hd games still look better on a hdtv, than a regular tv.

I didn't say you had to either...this is for the people that say they can't go back to anything non-HD as in not made for HD.

[jam3582]

I'm #4. HD is over rated. It basically gives people the chance to fill the void in their life by spending a ridiculous amount of money on a TV. They can show all their friends how cool they are and tell them how much money they spent on their latest technological wonder. I'm paying no interest at Best Buy for a year! In reality what you have is a nice TV with a sharper image. Yes I have seen and even played games on a HDTV and it looks nice but that is about it. For those of you who own one and say its so amazing I can never go back then I feel bad for you because you would have to throw away all your non-HD games which include some amazing games. Yes I can afford to buy a HDTV but I will wait until they cost about what TVs do now. Remember if a game looks good but sucks it still sucks.

lol everything in this world is over rated to some person or another .
I understand your points myself, I never suggest an HD to anyone without giving them the lowdown on the ups and downs .

my pick would be number 3 as Im good with my HD set I doubt I would notice 1080p as my boys at sony will have u believe. also this 1080p fiasco about a tv being 1080p ready and actually downconverting the signal is pretty freakin lame . Stupid tactics like this is what freakin slows the upgrade process down for many people .Oh and HDCP is another sheeeeeeeeeesh

[Tha Xecutioner]

1080p all the way

[ryanbph]

i have a 50" sony sxrd...

[javeryh]

I'm pretty sure my TV can do 1080i max. I have a panasonic plasma but I bought it 2.5 years ago.

Also jkam, HDTV is the second coming of Jesus. :D I seriously believe it makes TV more enjoyable to watch and games more enjoyable to play. Crap is still crap but playing something you like in high definition widescreen is more fun than playing it on a regular old TV.

Also, sporting events are completely different in HD. 3 years ago I would have preferred to go to Giants Stadium but now I can honestly say it's more enjoyable to watch in the comfort of my own living room. I'm in love with HDTV.

[Trakan]

I'm #4. HD is over rated. It basically gives people the chance to fill the void in their life by spending a ridiculous amount of money on a TV. They can show all their friends how cool they are and tell them how much money they spent on their latest technological wonder. I'm paying no interest at Best Buy for a year!

Or, like most people, you just enjoy the better picture.

[kaw]

60" SXRD here.. It upconverts everything to 1080p, but can only accept signals to a max of 1080i. I still hope Sony releases a software upgrade that will allow 1080p signal input, but I'm probably dreaming.

[guyver2077]

I'm pretty sure my TV can do 1080i max. I have a panasonic plasma but I bought it 2.5 years ago.

Also jkam, HDTV is the second coming of Jesus. :D I seriously believe it makes TV more enjoyable to watch and games more enjoyable to play. Crap is still crap but playing something you like in high definition widescreen is more fun than playing it on a regular old TV.

Also, sporting events are completely different in HD. 3 years ago I would have preferred to go to Giants Stadium but now I can honestly say it's more enjoyable to watch in the comfort of my own living room. I'm in love with HDTV.

Man do sports really look better?? I want one for my 360 but it sucks to buy something knowing that 1080p is better etc... Its like i feel im buying something for the hell of it...

Someone throw out some hd tv deals while your at it.. I havent decided if i should buy a cheap hd 30'in tube or shell out extra for a nice hd lcd.. Where do you guys typically buy tv's? Im planning on using credit and hopefully taking advantage of a no interest plan

[Vinny]

I chose #3 since our big TV has 1080i but no 720p. Still, 1080i is HD...

Me personally, I don't have anything HD. I'm too poor.:-p

[shadylane]

how would i know if my tv has 1080p i know my tv has one hdmi port and i got it less than a month ago...it's vizio brand

[javeryh]

Man do sports really look better?? I want one for my 360 but it sucks to buy something knowing that 1080p is better etc... Its like i feel im buying something for the hell of it...

Someone throw out some hd tv deals while your at it.. I havent decided if i should buy a cheap hd 30'in tube or shell out extra for a nice hd lcd.. Where do you guys typically buy tv's? Im planning on using credit and hopefully taking advantage of a no interest plan

Yes. Sports look AMAZING. I can't even watch sports in non-HD now unless I'm shitfaced at a bar. I won't even go to a friend's house to watch a football game unless he has an HDTV - it's that much better.

If I were you I would wait and save enough so you can get a 50" DLP (or plasma if you want to splurge). Anything smaller and you will be wanting a new TV in a few years (42" might be OK if you have a small room though). You can get a great HDTV that's 50" or bigger for less than $3,000 if you look around. Wait until Best Buy does their 10% off anything sale and definitely look for no-interest financing for 24 months or something if you don't want to spend it all at once.

[guyver2077]

Yes. Sports look AMAZING. I can't even watch sports in non-HD now unless I'm shitfaced at a bar. I won't even go to a friend's house to watch a football game unless he has an HDTV - it's that much better.

If I were you I would wait and save enough so you can get a 50" DLP (or plasma if you want to splurge). Anything smaller and you will be wanting a new TV in a few years (42" might be OK if you have a small room though). You can get a great HDTV that's 50" or bigger for less than $3,000 if you look around. Wait until Best Buy does their 10% off anything sale and definitely look for no-interest financing for 24 months or something if you don't want to spend it all at once.

Nice. I was reading into it and i definitely didnt like those tv's that you have to change the oil and pull the crank or whatever. I think those were dlp not sure..

I was looking in the 40' in range. Give or take a few

Im also not looking to spend 3k on a tv. Heck im having trouble spending more than 1k. Id hate to spend too much and not have it 1080p ready.

I was even considering at a poing those cheap refurb philips but everyone said stay away.

[Zoglog]

HD is very simply boiled down to just a higher resolution picture. In order to get good HD displayed you need a reasonable sized screen and a good source. In addition it does wonders for doubling up as a monitor - http://zoglog.clearlyseen.net/photos/sceptretv/IMG_1717.jpg

you will see many people try to claim HD is as clear as looking out a window when it's simply not true. However HD is a very noticeable improvment over standard. The most impressive HD in my opinion is footage from the HD news cameras. You can definetly notice a higher amount of detail. Honestly the only person who would complain about HD is somone who cannot afford it or is trying to be cool emo retro geeky. And if you hate it so much, don't buy it instead of trolling about.

Do we need better TVs? no. but then again we don't really need video games either.

As far as 1080p sets, Sceptre and westinghouse have excellent 1080p sets at reasonable prices (with prices dropping in the future). If you care much about brand name you can go with Sony's new overpriced Bravia line. Personally if you're gonna spend that much on a sony i'd recommend a Sharp.

As far as the 1080p Buzz goes, the main benifit (in my opinion) is def PC usage as a monitor. honestly when you go from 720p to 1080p the difference is not extremely apparent or dramatic as the jump from 480i/p to 720p. So if you have a HDTV Set already I wouldn't recommend just to upgrade to 1080p.

[javeryh]

Honestly the only person who would complain about HD is somone who cannot afford it or is trying to be cool emo retro geeky.

You forgot blind. :D I totally agree with you - of course it's not necessary but it sure does make watching TV a lot more enjoyable.

[cautioustoast]

i just have a regualr hdtv 1080i and yes sports are amazing on hd

[Quackzilla]

yeah, I have a Sony Trinitron...

It's HDTV ready, of course I don't actually have any HDTV compatable devices...

THough I *have* played games in HDTV, and I must say it makes them look as pretty as PC games played on a monitor... not a 1ms CRT monitor, but a monitor nonetheless.

[JohnnyDrama]

I have an HDTV with 480p & 1080i only .

same here

[graf1k]

Just actually got my HDTV yesterday. Was looking at an SXRD or possibly waiting until the new SXRD & XBRs come out in September, but I decided to go with the 40" XBR1 because the new ones from Sony are 1080p, but also $4000 which I can't afford for a TV right now. I may upgrade in a year or two as my mom liked my TV so much she offered to buy it full price whenever I want to sell it.

[sj41]

What's with the whole semi 1080p controversy? I have a Samsung 56" DLP 1080p HDTV, so I think I have the real 1080p unless I missed something about DLP.

[crystalklear64]

No HD for me.

[pop311]

Wait, why is 1080p DLP bad 1080p? wobble tech?

[dallow]

To JKAM,

Jeeze, shut that rant up already.
HDTVs are no longer the cost of an arm and a leg unless you're looking for a GIANT size.

It makes TV so much better, I can't believe the detail.
I even started watching football games because they looked unreal on my TV.

And games, wow, clear as a bell. It's hard for me to watch even regular DVDs now as they suck compared to the HD broadcast that is available.
It's brought new life even into my old PS2 games, finally got around to beating some of them that have been on the waiting list.


How anyone can diss HDTV is beyond me.

[dallow]

To add a little bit:

It's nice to see HDTV owners starting to become the majority.

At the AV forum, with hundreds of votes, less than 10 still had a SD tv.
Hehe, well, that's expected over there.

[guynextshore]

I have a 42" lcd hdtv moniter 1080p by westinghouse in my room.
but I suppose that doesn't compare to the 60" in the entertainment/family room.

[atlcrei]

I have a 5 year old Panasonic 37" 480p plasma - but it can take upto 1080i signals.

Nevertheless, HD still looks great on it; HDTV and PS3.

My next TV will definitely be 1080p; but I'm in no hurry to upgrade for now.

[sarausagi]

It basically gives people the chance to fill the void in their life by spending a ridiculous amount of money on a TV. They can show all their friends how cool they are and tell them how much money they spent on their latest technological wonder. I'm paying no interest at Best Buy for a year! In reality what you have is a nice TV with a sharper image. Yes I have seen and even played games on a HDTV and it looks nice but that is about it. For those of you who own one and say its so amazing I can never go back then I feel bad for you because you would have to throw away all your non-HD games which include some amazing games. Yes I can afford to buy a HDTV but I will wait until they cost about what TVs do now. Remember if a game looks good but sucks it still sucks.

Okay, first of all, tell me how spending $140 on a Philips/Magnavox/RCA 20 inch SD set, or spending $250 on a 24 inch Toshiba or Sony SD set, is in anyway frugal or intelligent, when there are several 30 inch plus HDTV's avaialble for as low as $400.

And now, for facts, HD is not just "sharper", HD is actually more than twice the amount of information on screen. When you are viewing true HD, you are viewing a widescreen image that gives you many more advantages. For example, in a sporting event, you can see more of the field, more of the movement, as much as possible that can fit in a 16:9 space. The views are panoramic, everything is on a grand scale. And when you're watching movies, you are viewing what the director intended, as much as 33 percent more image, and the whole shot [what the camera was actually seeing]

Not only that, HD is showing not only more color, more detail, more "sharpness", but is plain showing more lines of resolution, more actual information on screen, therefore it's not just "more sharp", but you're actually seeing more details and more aspects of the image viewable on the screen.

Millions of consumers buy shit $90 sets at Wal-Mart, they replace them every year or use them until they're completely out of service, they spend more money on cables and adapters so that they can watch DVD's, digital cable, and play new consoles, because their TV's are bare minimum and can't accept a standard signal. What business do you have playing an Xbox 360 or a PS3 if you need to buy a $20 RF adapter so you can hook it up via the coax antenna input?

So yeah, your post is almost to the point of being threadcrapping, trolling, because having an HDTV doesn't make a person scum of the Earth, it doesn't make them any less intelligent, and it doesn't mean their lives are empty: it just means they have discerning taste and expect the best from everything they own.

I'd be glad to hear your argument about how all these "new" cars with air conditioning, air bags, CD players, anti lock breaks, and on board computers are useless pieces of shit that only make people feel better about their pointless existence.

[vasco]

Yeah, I just became HD. My Sharp 52" AQUOS LCD just made me join the club. Screw what you heard about banding and dead pixels. Plus I just paid $3752 with 36 months no interest. The Wii Sports is more fun, and HD DVD so far look FREAKIN AMAZING!! I had a nice 12%off coupon from Best Buy. Life is now awsome!

[Psykodelik]

1080i for me. I believe they said on avsforum..you wont see a difference (if any) for 32/7" and below. Since the tv is in my room...1080i it is!

[Milkyman]

there are always people who are down on something just because other people like it. hdtv, ipods, pokemans, halo. they complain about people lauding said products and proclaiming them the second coming of christ and don't realize being on the ultranegative end of the spectrum is just as bad as being on the other end.

[zman73]

My new tv (see signature) does true 1080p, but has to be through HDMI, although Ive heard even on a tv this size, there is no noticable difference between 1080i and 1080p, the HD dvd for 360 looks awesome on this tv (after minor calibrations)

I have a 1080i tv in my game room as well, and will have HD programming in the near future through DTV (along with a couple HD DVR's)

I enjoy the HD for alot of the reasons discussed, it lookd freaking amazing, got hooked while over at my mothers for christmas, even with only a 32" Vizio (which I plan on getting for the bedroon later this year)

[GizmoGC]

I have a 720p/1080i HDTV. 1080p is a bit too much for me right now.

People bitching that HDTV is not worth it and 'too expensive' are just dumbasses. Do they even sell 'normal' TVs anymore? Nearly everything I see is HDTV.

[zman73]

I have a 720p/1080i HDTV. 1080p is a bit too much for me right now.

People bitching that HDTV is not worth it and 'too expensive' are just dumbasses. Do they even sell 'normal' TVs anymore? Nearly everything I see is HDTV.


Its really is getting to be much more reasonable for 1080p, myself, I was expecting to spend upwards of 3000 for mine, plus tax, plus a few hundred for a new stand, and had no idea about cheap HDMI cables (monoprice.com baby)

Simple price search and reviews led me to my current TV, which would have ran me around 2600 from Best Buy (that was a sale price), online I found the same tv for around 2000, free shipping, and no tax... and didnt have to worry about delivery fees that I would have had with BB

The stand purchase was blind luck, I was all set to either build a stand (resulting in many lost hours, or spend around 150 on one from Wal Mart, many stores wanted ALOT more for crap... out of curiosite I stopped by a salvage store (Hudsons) and they had stacks of boxes of nice tv stands that fit my tv... it was the only tv stand there, and was exactly what I was looking for, no particleboard, just metal and tempered glass

The cost 99.95- 40%... only 60 bucks

[jimbodan]

Full 1080p here.

Honestly I can understand people bitching about HDTV not being all it's cracked up to be. Now for games or DVD's, or HD/Blu-Ray DVD's or really anything where you can send it a pure uncompressed true HD source it is absolutely incredible and I think you'd have to be crazy to say it's not worth it for those.

BUT for TV....EH not so much, first off depending on your TV provider you may or may not get very many HD channels which sucks because standard definition shows look much worse on HDTVs then regular TV's. Also a lot of HD networks don't know how to broadcast in HD their little production mistakes and bad cameras that used to go unnoticed on an SD TV can be pretty glaring in HD. Also a lot of broadcats are plagued with compression artifacts and other technical problems.

[b3b0p]

Don't have one yet. Will someday when I'm ready.

I saw no reason until I could actually buy HD (DVHS was not something I was going to invest in) content to watch on it. I don't watch sports and don't even watch an hour a day.

A few channels over the air doesn't cut it and I'm not paying to use the HD part of an expensive TV, especially if I can't record/archive it. That's like subscribing to play an online game after paying $50+ for it. And upconverting is not HD.

I'll wait, because honestly, I really don't care that much.

Now with Blu-ray, I'm a bit more enthusiastic. Just waiting for more titles that interest me.

[getmyrunon]

No reason to own a 1080p television until you have a true 1080p source to go along with it (and even then the differences are negligible on the smaller TVs).

[deekayex]

I bought a Westinghouse LVM-37w3 37" 1080p LCD monitor for $900 back in December. I have my Xbox 360 connected to it via VGA (to take full advantage of DVD upscaling) and my PS3 through HDMI. Can't wait to see Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII.

[Derrick Barra]

Got me a Samsung 244T 24' 1200p Super HDTV (Technically a computer monitor, but whatever).

When it's in your face you can totally see the difference between 720p and 1080p, thats why I chose this beast!

[gofishn]

I was going to buy the 42" 1080p Sceptre LCD from Costco for $1299, but went with a 720p 37" Olevia LCD from Frys.com for $669 shipped. It's going in my bedroom and the difference in quality will be minimal at that size, not to mention the TV I wound up with comes out to be less than half the price (after tax from Costco).

[Zoglog]

I used to have a sceptre 1080p 37" but I swapped out for the westinghouse one. Much more satisfied with the westinghouse.

Sceptre TV had a real ghetto feel to it in the menus and the design of the product.
Westinghouse TVs do have some issues but overall I really do prefer the westinghouse's

As for Olevia, i'd stay away. At work we had a few of the Syntax LCD TVs and they all broke.

But yeah with the ps3 out and in full force Content is already here. Or HD-DVD if you're goin there. also 1080p content has always been around in the form of PC games.

[Mechafenris]

I got the 32" Samsung LCD TV that was on sale for $1399 at Best Buy last October... it's 720p, but like others have said, at that screen size, you're not losing terribly in quality.

The PS3 looks AWESOME on this TV, btw. :)

And the 360 looks phenomenal (I played it initially on a 24" Toshiba flat tube standard TV).. .BOY it's like night and day.

I'll go 1080p eventually... when I decide on how big I really want to go :)

[MarkMan]

1080p here as well.

Thought that I might as well jump in...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/335781626_450f6b3e2c.jpg

[pop311]

1080p here as well.

Thought that I might as well jump in...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/335781626_450f6b3e2c.jpgwhat game and system is that. Can HD DVD do 1080p?

[zman73]

what game and system is that. Can HD DVD do 1080p?

Yes HD DVD CAN do 1080p, via XB360 drive it can through VGA, IF your tv will accept 1080p through VGA, mine will not, but mine has such good deinterlacing that there is no difference between 1080i and 1080p

As for stand alone players, I only think there is one player out now that does 1080p

Id had been hoping my use of VGA on the 360 would free up a component slot for something else but my setup is like this

input 1 (component) XB360
input 2 (component) dvd changer, Wii, modded Xbox, PS2 via switch box
Input 3 (s video and VGA inputs) plan on running a dreamcast VGA into that opening, through an s video switcher have Sega Saturn (for Karaoke), and N64
Input 4 (composite) plan on putting my TG16 there when I can find a turbobooster online
HDMI 1 (this is for Directv HD in a couple weeks)
HDMI 2 upconverting RCA dvd recorder which I run DTV through at the moment

[zewone]

what game and system is that.
Playstation 3 and Tekken 5: Dark Ressurrecton (PS3 store download).

[oasisboy]

According to this poll, it seems that 1080p from DLP is not the same as any other 1080p TV? What is the difference? I want to buy a Samsung DLP 1080p TV and all reviews were positive.

Here is a dumb question, what is the difference between 1080i and 1080p? Is it a huge difference in quality or what?

[AZPunisher]

I bought a 61" Samsung, and I'm very satisfied with it.
Young & The Restless is one of the only shows I watch on TV, and it's broadcast in HD. =D

WWE needs to get their ass in gear.

[Pootie Thang]

1080p here as well.

Thought that I might as well jump in...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/335781626_450f6b3e2c.jpg

Nice BRAVIA man! Is that the XBR2 series? Or is it the XBR3 series. I'm all confused now. Anyways, I'm 1080p ready with a Sony 50" SXRD XBR2 and a Sony 60" SXRD XBR2. 1080p really is that amazing in my eyes.

[Plinko]

To add a little bit:

It's nice to see HDTV owners starting to become the majority.

At the AV forum, with hundreds of votes, less than 10 still had a SD tv.
Hehe, well, that's expected over there.

HDTV owners aren't even close to becoming the majority yet. The number is growing, though, but I'd expect it to take a couple more years.

As for the poll, I have a 480p/1080i TV, and I love it. The difference between HD and SD television is huge and I also believe it makes television more enjoyable to watch.

That said, I find the difference between 1080i and 1080p to be completely negligible and something that only technophiles are really going to notice/care about.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Nice BRAVIA man! Is that the XBR2 series? Or is it the XBR3 series. I'm all confused now. Anyways, I'm 1080p ready with a Sony 50" SXRD XBR2 and a Sony 60" SXRD XBR2. 1080p really is that amazing in my eyes.

That's the XBR2 series (I'd imagine), the XBR3 series is basically identical though. I think the only real difference is it came standard with a black bezel instead of silver (but I think you can actually change the XBR2's bezel color anyhow).

[Lorddraco07]

Question for everyone. I'm gonna be graduating in may and wanted to take some grad money and get a hdtv. Is this a good tv for the price? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889234001
It seemed to be getting some good reviews and I'm hoping the price drops a little by May if not i would still get it if it is a good tv.

I was thinking about picking a ps3 up this summer with it so I could take advantage of 1080p and then finally have all 3 consoles so I don't want to make a mistake on picking a bad tv to go with it.

[Mechafenris]

Question for everyone. I'm gonna be graduating in may and wanted to take some grad money and get a hdtv. Is this a good tv for the price? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889234001
It seemed to be getting some good reviews and I'm hoping the price drops a little by May if not i would still get it if it is a good tv.

I was thinking about picking a ps3 up this summer with it so I could take advantage of 1080p and then finally have all 3 consoles so I don't want to make a mistake on picking a bad tv to go with it.


People have said (quite possibly in these forums) that the Westinghouse HDMI connector is quite cruddy in terms of handshake time (which causes issues when first booting up a PS3 and playing some games). Westinghouse seems to be aware of the issue and tells customers to wait for the fix by using component in the meantime... It's an issue with HDCP and HDMI as implemented by their TV, IIRC. (The TV requires an in-home firmware update to solve the issue, when they do fix it, assumedly..)

I have a Samsung 32" 720p LCD TV and I've not had the issues in question that the Westinghouse has with my PS3. The picture is phenomenal, no matter what TV brand you go with... I prefer the LCD TV's to projection or DLP's, but whatever looks best to you in person is probably your safest bet. :)

[Lorddraco07]

Is the 42" any better from them? I found this on pricegrabber.com and looks be around the price of the 37".

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=16643153

If not could anyone recommend me a good lcd or plasma doesn't matter at 1.3k max? Thanks.

[Mechafenris]

Is the 42" any better from them? I found this on pricegrabber.com and looks be around the price of the 37".

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=16643153

If not could anyone recommend me a good lcd or plasma doesn't matter at 1.3k max? Thanks.


It's hard to say... the 2007 models do fix the issue with the HDMI dropout problem, but the problem is, you can't really tell (that I know of) if the TV is from 2006... and is pre-firmware fix.

It's a nice screen otherwise, as I've heard (and seen some places), but the only caveat is you might have to have an in-house firmware update scheduled if you don't get a 2007 model...

That might be worth the price difference, I'd wager... I know that as this segment of the market starts to become more mainstream... we're going to see quite the price war... :)

[Zoglog]

Is the 42" any better from them? I found this on pricegrabber.com and looks be around the price of the 37".

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=16643153

If not could anyone recommend me a good lcd or plasma doesn't matter at 1.3k max? Thanks.

I have that set, it is quite fantastic. The only problem is depending on what firmware you get. It will probably be 1.00 which does have problems with the PS3 over HDMI, but DVI works ok. I'm going to westinghouse tomorrow to get my firmware flashed to 1.03 which fixes the HDMI handshaking issue with HDCP.

[Lorddraco07]

Ok seems like I'll pick up the 42" when the time comes and get the firmware changed on it to fix the hdmi problem. Thanks for the help.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Ok seems like I'll pick up the 42" when the time comes and get the firmware changed on it to fix the hdmi problem. Thanks for the help.

If you end up waiting til summer you may check out their 2007 line. According to reports from CNet it'll have 3 HDMI inputs as opposed to the 2/3 DVIs it has now. Not a huge deal but chances are you'll use HDMI connections for most anything out now and I'm sure they'll have any HDCP hang-ups totally cleared up for the new line when it rolls out (or at least I'd hope so).

[Zoglog]

I just swapped my 1.00 Westinghouse 42" 1080p Set for a 1.03 firmware flashed set (I happen to live close to thier main HQ) and it works nicely now. HDMI port is now fully compatible.

For those who want this set I really recommend making sure you get the 1.03 firmware.

As for why this HDMI issue occurs, it's all because the whole HDMI thing is messy and there are all sorts of incompatibilities arising. As witnessed by this set because it works just fine with the Samsung bluray player but with the ps3 initially it had issues. I have a feeling it's an HDCP thing. But yeah with 1.03 everything works swimmingly :D

[sononkyo]

When HDMI 1.3 TVs are all mature with the latest marketing nomenclature and in conjunction >50% PS3 games run in 1080p, that's the time for true HD. Quite content with 720p NOW. Future definitely 1080p.

[H.Cornerstone]

I'm #4. HD is over rated. It basically gives people the chance to fill the void in their life by spending a ridiculous amount of money on a TV. They can show all their friends how cool they are and tell them how much money they spent on their latest technological wonder. I'm paying no interest at Best Buy for a year! In reality what you have is a nice TV with a sharper image. Yes I have seen and even played games on a HDTV and it looks nice but that is about it. For those of you who own one and say its so amazing I can never go back then I feel bad for you because you would have to throw away all your non-HD games which include some amazing games. Yes I can afford to buy a HDTV but I will wait until they cost about what TVs do now. Remember if a game looks good but sucks it still sucks.

You have obviously never lived in a 25 year old neighberhood. The difference between HDTV and Regular TV is so ridiculous it's not even funny. It's 20x bigger difference than that between DVD and VHS.

BTW, I guess DVD's and CD'S are pointless to because all they give us are clearer picture, better sound and more accessbility....

[Zoglog]

When HDMI 1.3 TVs are all mature with the latest marketing nomenclature and in conjunction >50% PS3 games run in 1080p, that's the time for true HD. Quite content with 720p NOW. Future definitely 1080p.

well not necessarily. Blu-ray and HD-DVD are both 1080p and tons of trailers online @ 1080p (tho quicktime sucks). Also playing quake 3 @ 1080p is still great and don't forget PC gaming in general.

[gofishn]

well not necessarily. Blu-ray and HD-DVD are both 1080p and tons of trailers online @ 1080p (tho quicktime sucks). Also playing quake 3 @ 1080p is still great and don't forget PC gaming in general.

IMHO none of those reasons justify paying double the price of a 720p TV.

[Zoglog]

IMHO none of those reasons justify paying double the price of a 720p TV.

Also forgot that 720p sucks for PC usage which is a shame because that's one of the greatest things about these 1080p HDTVs, they have adequate resolution for PCs. @ 720p it reminds me of using 800x600 on regular sized monitors.

And saying it's double the price is misleading. You can get 42" 1080p LCD TV for only maybe 1/4 more the cost.

[DarkNessBear]

Not yet. I wanted to be, but I got some problems along the way...

Damn you Westinghouse.

[Zoglog]

Not yet. I wanted to be, but I got some problems along the way...

Damn you Westinghouse.

yeah, unless you have the 1.03 firmware it's a bit annoying.
I was just lucky enough to be able to live close to their factory. But I did start with a 1.19 set

[Trakan]

Just ordered the LVM-42w2 from Crutchfield. I emailed their tech support beforehand and asked if these models would have the most recent firmware. He said there was no reason to believe they wouldn't. All I have to do is wait for it now.

[rodeojones903]

That's the XBR2 series (I'd imagine), the XBR3 series is basically identical though. I think the only real difference is it came standard with a black bezel instead of silver (but I think you can actually change the XBR2's bezel color anyhow).


The XBR3 is not "basically identical" to the XBR2. There are many differences between the two models, besides the color of the frame. :rofl:

[Duo_Maxwell]

The XBR3 is not "basically identical" to the XBR2. There are many differences between the two models, besides the color of the frame. :rofl:

Care to elaborate then instead of just trying to be a know-it-all ass without revealing anything (and succeding). The only differences I know of between the two models are the bezel color and the correction of a possible "cloudy" picture problem resulting from the backlight or somehting (mura defect, IIRC, which I've been told is still around for the XBR3s somewhat). Maybe there is a small difference like I'm sure the chipset for video processing has been refined somehow or maybe slightly different parts on the insdie, but for everything I've seen the specs are damn near identical, making the 40", 46" and 52" "basically identical" to me. The way the two operate didn't change much at all that I can tell.

Edit to back me up from people who actually know something:


Finally, the company will ask an even prettier penny for the flagship KDL-XBR3 line, which again comes in 40-inch and 46-inch versions. These 1080p sets distinguish themselves from the rest with a glossy black frame, again ringed by floating glass -- and that's the only difference. Sony's press release pimps these models as being compatible with its forthcoming BDP-S1 Blu-ray player, but of course any 1080p-input-capable, 1080p-resolution HDTV could claim the same level of synergy. You'll pay $4,300 for the privilege of owning the 40-inch KDL-V40XBR3 and $5,300 for the 46-inch KDL-V46XBR3.

The features and performance of the 46" KDL-46XBR3 are identical to the KDL-46XBR2 — the only difference is the XBR3's gloss-black cabinet, which looks extra stylish encased in Sony's clear "floating glass" case.

[fuzz]

I am #4 also I have normal HDTV (720p and 1080i)

[donth8dre]

I have a 56" 1080p DLP from samsung that cost $1600

[Indiana]

No reason to own a 1080p television until you have a true 1080p source to go along with it (and even then the differences are negligible on the smaller TVs).

Well if you send 1080i to a 1080p tv you will see 1080p on the tv I believe. Nearly all 1080p tvs convert the interlaced signal to progressive. There is no such thing as an LCD interlaced screen after all.

[donth8dre]

Umm yeah there is such thing as a interlaced display on an LCD

[H.Cornerstone]

Umm yeah there is such thing as a interlaced display on an LCD

Don't believe so. Every LCD tv I have ever seen is either 720p or 1080p. Their native resolution is 720p, they can merely accept a 1080i signal and convert. Now I could be wrong, but thats how I understand it.

[dallow]

That's right, LCDs are inherently progressive because it's a fixed pixel display.

Interlaced signals are de-interlaced. Progressive signals bypass the internal de-interlacer.

[Zoglog]

That's right, LCDs are inherently progressive because it's a fixed pixel display.

Interlaced signals are de-interlaced. Progressive signals bypass the internal de-interlacer.

yeah... what he said lols