The PS3 is absolutely worth $600.

[PawnTakesKing]

I'm mainly posting this in an attempt to justify the PS3's $600 price tag, which I can't at all seem to do. But here's my best shot:

Let's just say for a moment that the PS3 really IS a computer, as Ken Kutaragi claims. It ships with a Linux OS that allows you to perform all the basic functions of a computer: word processing, web browsing, e-mail, etc. etc. Then let's dream that it comes with a full set of drivers installed, so that your printer, digital camera, iPod, and other devices work with it out of the box.

Now let's take a look at the specs: 512 MB of RAM and a 60 GB hard drive. A Blu-Ray drive that is also backwards compatible with your DVD library. Bluetooth and Wi-Fi enabled. 3 (I think?) USB ports, and HDMI output.

Now let's take a look at the gaming side of it. You can play most, if not every, game from the PS2 and PS1 libraries, including all future PS3 titles, and it comes with one controller. The online XBox Live-like service is (rumored to be) free.

So, in conclusion, when you look at it that way...you're paying for a low-end Linux PC that will play your Blu-Ray movies and a bunch of games. And potential. Don't forget potential.

Well, I tried anyway.

(And before I get uber-flamed, no, I am not Sony bashing. Like many, I am interested in the PS3 but just can't afford one at that price. Or at the $499 price either. This is my way of coping with the fact that I won't own one at launch.)

[opportunity777]

... Like many, I am interested in the PS3 but just can't afford one at that price. Or at the $499 price either. This is my way of coping with the fact that I won't own one at launch.)

I feel ya man. I can afford one, I just refuse to pay that much for it. Also, I have bad vibes about it up to now, and not even MGS4 or whatever has persuaded me to throw down big green on it.

[Broccoli Storm]

I think that for what you're getting, $600 is a great price, but for Sony it comes down to two things: Most people who have been customers of Sony, specifically the Playstation, are buying the systems to play games, which means many of these people will simply want a console for games. Sure, all that stuff is great at that price IF you want all of it. Secondly, a lot of parents just buy their kids consoles around Christmas time, birthdays, etc. because it's the new thing. I know plenty of people who have a GCN or PS2 that barely, if ever, use it. The combination of the high price tag and uninformed shoppers is going to lead to a lot of people steering clear of what they think is just a gaming system for $600.

[omegaweapon7]

oh yea, is worth every fucking penny, but that doesnt change the fact that most people here cant afford it. PS3 is gonna sell a decent amount anyway, if people can drop 400 for a freaking ipod, then they will drop 600 for a blueray gaming machine.

this forum seems very anti-sony, which is strange because alot of cagers are rpg fans, and playstation is the ONLY machine for rpgs. Plus, GC always have teh worst cheap ass gaming prices, heck i waited 2 years for zelda WW to officially drop to 20, while MGS3 dropped within 4 months.

[cyberlian]

If nothing else, I think that sony took a huge risk in their strategy with the ps3. They have absolutly owned the console market for the past two generations. Why did they change their stategy away from mass market, relativley affordable consoles to super computer, fully-loaded, no choice but to pay for every feature gaming/bluray machines?

[PawnTakesKing]

I think that for what you're getting, $600 is a great price, but for Sony it comes down to two things: Most people who have been customers of Sony, specifically the Playstation, are buying the systems to play games, which means many of these people will simply want a console for games. Sure, all that stuff is great at that price IF you want all of it. Secondly, a lot of parents just buy their kids consoles around Christmas time, birthdays, etc. because it's the new thing. I know plenty of people who have a GCN or PS2 that barely, if ever, use it. The combination of the high price tag and uninformed shoppers is going to lead to a lot of people steering clear of what they think is just a gaming system for $600.

Exactly. What most people expected was that Sony would tout the PS3 as a gaming console first, which didn't happen. Instead it's being marketed as an all-in-one media solution. Sometimes I think it would actually be better if Sony slapped the Vaio label on it and sold it as a low-end PC.

My bet is that eventually someone will find a way to put Windows on it, and then maybe that $600 price tag will look better. Until then...I'm gonna have to stick with Wii60.

[PawnTakesKing]

this forum seems very anti-sony, which is strange because alot of cagers are rpg fans, and playstation is the ONLY machine for rpgs. Plus, GC always have teh worst cheap ass gaming prices, heck i waited 2 years for zelda WW to officially drop to 20, while MGS3 dropped within 4 months.

No one is being "anti-Sony," at least not yet. Like I said, I want the system, and I'd be glad to drop the cash on it if it were at least $399. My main problem is that I can't bring myself to pay that much for what is essentially a crippled PC that plays Playstation games.

I'm not doubting it will sell either. In fact, I predict PS3 will be more rare than the XBox 360 was at launch.

In short, I'm just a CAG mourning Sony's price decision.

[gunm]

Like many, I am interested in the PS3 but just can't afford one at that price. Or at the $499 price either. This is my way of coping with the fact that I won't own one at launch.)

Nice try, but that's the gist--only the early adopters and certain of the high-end A/V crowd are going to opt-in @ $600. The rest of us are going to wait until the price comes down to < $300.

Regardless of what Sony wants the public to believe, the PlayStation brand is all about games and the mass market is not ready to pay $600 for a game system.

I 'm inclined to agree with analysts who suggest that the PS3 is going the route of the high-end PC gaming niche and that this will likely affect their share of the gaming market.

[omegaweapon7]

No one is being "anti-Sony," at least not yet. Like I said, I want the system, and I'd be glad to drop the cash on it if it were at least $399. My main problem is that I can't bring myself to pay that much for what is essentially a crippled PC that plays Playstation games.

I'm not doubting it will sell either. In fact, I predict PS3 will be more rare than the XBox 360 was at launch.

In short, I'm just a CAG mourning Sony's price decision.

na im not talking about this topic, im talking about this whole forum in general. heck even if you go to the Sony boards there are alot of hate and nay-saying.

[dastly75]

I'm not even considering buying a PS3 until MGS4 comes out in late 2007 at earliest.

[jlarlee]

I am having a hard time getting over the fact I can buy a 360 and a Wii for about the same price

[b0bx13]

The "HAY I CAN USE IT AS A COMPOOTER" argument is a load of shit, IMO. First off, the Sony's main demographic is NOT going to learn linux, period. And even if they were, a $100 Xbox can do everything PC that the PS3 will be able to, excluding BluRay. Yeah, the PS3 obviously has more power than an Xbox, but when you're talking about word processing and web browsing, it becomes a moot point.

Note that this isn't an attack at anyone besides Sony.

[6669]

As of right now, I'm not gonna pay over $700 to play MGS4 (PS3+game+taxes).

[RelentlessRolento]

I am okay with the price as along as:

A) It dosn't prevent me from buying a Wii

and

B) It dosn't have a death or error similar to 360 system deaths

I can see B happening, but this will enforce me to buy insurance/warranty for a system for the first time.

[adamsappel]

It is definitely worth $600. Am I going to spend $600 on it? No way. Not until and unless $600 ceases to be a big deal to me. Actually, I thought I'd recently come across something worth a large amount of money and one of my first thoughts was, "Guess I won't sweat pre-ordering a PS3." Unfortunately, the find turned out to be less lucrative than I'd thought (though still significant), so I'll wait for -$400 pricing.

[Graystone]

If the PS3 cost $299 and $399 for the two sku's. I would get the cheaper one and depending on the games I might kept it. If the first year titles are looking weak I would sell it after I beat MGS4. However it being $500 and $600 I say fuck Sony until its $250.

[NoRain]

1. If they are gonna call it a computer why not slap a tv tuner and some sage tv on it.

2. Why not have it play PC Games and PS1,2,3 games.

3. If it were a computer why the heck would you want a controller. I'd want a keyboard and a mouse.

4. In what way is this more like a computer then say a PS2 with a network adapter and a hard drive?

Ok I've vented. Stop calling game systems a computer. Just cause something has a processor in it does not mean its a computer. You can get shoes with a processor in them. And lastly why would you want a printer on this thing, so you can print out your Gran Turismo XXV scores?

[Theduck]

this forum seems very anti-sony, which is strange because alot of cagers are rpg fans, and playstation is the ONLY machine for rpgs. Plus, GC always have teh worst cheap ass gaming prices, heck i waited 2 years for zelda WW to officially drop to 20, while MGS3 dropped within 4 months.

I'm anti-spending 700+ dollars on a system and a game. It's ridiculous.

[crazytalkx]

Hell, most of CAG loved Sony and the PS2 until this year's E3. The price point is too high for me and well its expected that something that high would be disliked in a forum thats based on the foundation of getting video games for cheap.

[Vinny]

Is it worth it? Hells yeah! That's a lotta crap for $600. But what the hell do I need a replacement for my PC when my PC does the work way better than the PS3 could ever hope to? Why do I need a Blu-Ray player if I don't plan to buy Blu-Ray DVDs and a 1080p HDTV?

While I can understand the Linux thing, I'm 99% sure that the inclusion of Blu-Ray was to do nothing more than move Blu-Ray into homes and take out HD-DVD. Honestly, space an issue with DVD? Hah! If they can fit Oblivion on to a dual layer DVD, I doubt space is a problem. And there's nothing stopping developers from using multiple DVDs without increasing the price because DVDs aren't as expensive as Blu-Ray discs.

Don't get me wrong... I want a PS3. What I don't want is all the bullshit Sony decided that I needed with it.

[mykevermin]

I agree with those who say "it's worth $600, but I ain't payin' $600." Hell, universal region support for games is awesometastic for me, but it still doesn't mean that I'm going to pay that much for it.

[Tha Xecutioner]

Get rid of most of that shit an offer a version of the 360 Core version and count me in. By the way, PS3 is not more powerful than the 360, and also don't blame them for setting $600 as their limit, it should be priced higher and they will lose a ton of money each system already.

[elmyra]

Hell, universal region support for games is awesometastic for me, but it still doesn't mean that I'm going to pay that much for it.

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but but does anyone (besides Sony) know yet if it will play all region PS1/2 games?

[gunm]

ps2 games are region coded, so i don't expect that to change w/PS3.

[hufferstl]

360s were going for way more than $600 for the first two months that it was out on ebay. Sony could be just trying to stop the ebayers. Since they won't be able to meet demand(if it was $399), maybe they are just going to have the fastest pricedrop in console history.

[epobirs]

Gee, while we're at it, why don't we also assume the PS3 will do your laundry and administer blow jobs when you finish a level?

Trying to seriously suggest that the PS3 is going to see use as a PC replacement is just laughable. Sony has been down this road before and less than a year after annoucing such unwanted applications for the PS2 tried to pretend they had never been demoed at the previous E3.

Linux is being used as the kernel developers run their code on. That is a very far cry from a full featured distro that'll let you run OpenOffice.org. Unless Sony can figure out a way to get people to pay for Linux desktop apps, something the entire computer industry has largely given up on, this would be a suicidal waste of resources by Sony. The PS3 is only a win for Sony if it gets people to buy a lot of games and movies. Running Linux apps isn't conducive to either.

Consider how much Microsoft fought against the Xbox being used as a cheap PC, especially for media center apps. On the Xbox 360 those functions exist mostly only in conjunction with a Media Center PC as a separate, and profitable in of itself, purchase. Why do you suppose that is?

You know, for $600 you can get a pretty good PC with keyboard, mouse, 17" monitor, even a printer. It'll even do a pretty good job with older PC games. But that bugger is sold at a profit. Dell doesn't care if you never take it out of the box. If someone uses a PS3 to mainly run Linux and Linux apps, that PS3 is a a money loser for Sony.

[soonersfan60]

Get rid of most of that shit an offer a version of the 360 Core version and count me in. By the way, PS3 is not more powerful than the 360, and also don't blame them for setting $600 as their limit, it should be priced higher and they will lose a ton of money each system already.

No, the price is directly Sony's fault for insisting on Blu-Ray and the other specs. When Xbox 360 was released, I thought it was expensive. Sony takes the cake.

[mykevermin]

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but but does anyone (besides Sony) know yet if it will play all region PS1/2 games?

Well, as someone points out below, PS1/2 games *are* region coded. I don't think that means much, however, and it wouldn't be very difficult at all for them to allow any PS1/2 game to be played on a PS3.

That said, they haven't been very forthcoming about whether or not previous generation games from any region will work on the PS3. I want to assume they will, but recognize that it is just that, and assumption. Some may think making a blanket claim for universal region support doesn't need to be elaborated upon, but we all know Sony, and other companies, like to spring surprised, many of them unpleasant, on us. I'm going to regard it hesitantly, like I should have regarded the 360's "Backwards Compatibility."

Short answer: dunno.

[CosmosTheMouse]

I'm a big SONY fan and i'm not about to get a PS3.

Why? Mostly because of the price, and yes I can afford one... but i'd be sooner cast into a pit of fire before spending 600 bucks on a game system. Why not just get a computer. It does more. And yes i'm saying the word "computer" while talking about the PS3. I think that after Sony made the statement of "We don't want to just be a game system, we want to become home entertainment. The next step up in gaming" it became apparent that they want to branch the PS3 into something SIMILAR to a computer. Sure it's not a computer, but it's a hell of a lot like one.

It's also scary that basically everything from the 1st word on PS3 up to now . . . things are still up in the air about it except the price. We saw the sudden change of the controller at E3 so who knows what else will be changed at the last second. Blue Ray is still being debated, the actual structure of the system itself, most of the titles shown havent shown games in action. I wouldnt be suprised if the whole thing changes before release.

Plus. I recall another Sony product that tryed the same thing. . .
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/screenshotalbum/Sony_PSX.jpg
*cough!*

[elmyra]

Well, as someone points out below, PS1/2 games *are* region coded. I don't think that means much, however, and it wouldn't be very difficult at all for them to allow any PS1/2 game to be played on a PS3.

That said, they haven't been very forthcoming about whether or not previous generation games from any region will work on the PS3. I want to assume they will, but recognize that it is just that, and assumption. Some may think making a blanket claim for universal region support doesn't need to be elaborated upon, but we all know Sony, and other companies, like to spring surprised, many of them unpleasant, on us. I'm going to regard it hesitantly, like I should have regarded the 360's "Backwards Compatibility."

Short answer: dunno.

Ah, I see, thanks. It's a bummer that they won't say one way or another. I know that PS1/2 games are region coded, but the coding only matters if the console is set to check for it, just as with DVDs. I'm hoping that they'll choose to leave region-checking out of the legacy support, but even then it'll probably be a long time and a lot of price drops before I buy a PS3. I'm definitely in the "not worth $5-600" camp.

[elmyra]

360s were going for way more than $600 for the first two months that it was out on ebay. Sony could be just trying to stop the ebayers. Since they won't be able to meet demand(if it was $399), maybe they are just going to have the fastest pricedrop in console history.

Sony doesn't give a damn about eBayers.

[the_deej]

WiiDs60

[terribledeli]

Value is a perception.

I don't think the console is worth $600, but then I don't care about any of their exclusives or blu-ray.

Some might, which then it would be worth the $600.

[ryanbph]

Is it worth it, maybe. But like others have said, I will not be dropping that much on a system. As for the comments about it being a cheap blue ray player. Most of the information that I have read about the blue ray side, is that it will be a very cheap model. It was a couple months back in one of the gaming mags, about the speed of the blue ray laser in the ps3 being slower then the dvd laser in the 360, making it complelty useless. While that may have changed, I don't belive you will be getting a blue ray player that is comparable to the $1k models on the store shelves. When the ps2 hit, dvd players were roughly the same, maybe a tad more. A $400 price difference is huge, do you really expect them to do all the cell processing stuff and toss in a high end blue ray player for $400 less then the standard blue ray players out there. IMO, if someone is into home theatre setups, they most likely will do the research and see that the ps3 most likely isn't worth saving the $400 for a blue ray player.

[sqyxzylyx]

$600 is justified if Sony releases a Blue-Ray DVD player that plays PS3/PS2 games. I mean its a rectangular shape so that it can blend with my HT/component system and not look like a game machine. Is this really hard to do?

[alongx]

I think I've said this here before, but I'll say it again.

Sony has one major problem in their reasoning with the PS3 price. They say that, like the PS2 with DVD, the PS3 gives you the "bonus" of Blu-ray for one solid price. And the price is just when you consider that Blu-ray is involved, as well as a top of the line (and untested, but we'll ignore that for argument's sake) CPU and GPU.

The problem with this logic is as follows: as someone wanting a game machine, the PS2 fell in with the price range that was expected. PS2 cost just as much as a game console should have, in the public's eyes, and included a DVD player at no additional cost above expectation. Hell, if you wanted a DVD player, the PS2 cost as much as your average DVD player in 2000, and you got a free game console with it.

With the PS3, they have broken out of the range of expectations. People expected to pay $299 - maybe $399, now that MS pushed the bar up last year - but not $499-599. In order to justify the additional $200, the gamer has to say "Well, it has Blu-Ray too, for only $200 more. Otherwise I'd be paying $1000+ for an additional Blu-ray player. What a deal." But what if the gamer doesn't want Blu-ray? I don't, and I assume many others wouldn't - at least not right now. To us, it just seems like we're paying $200 for shit we don't want and we don't need. There's added value to the package, sure. But there's added cost to support that value, unlike PS2/DVD where there was added value with no added cost.

[strayfoxx]

I know this is an argument that can have a well-substantined rebuttal but it has caused me to think of things in a different way.

Looking back at the PS2, and the great games I've gotten out of it: Ico, Katamari Damacy, Shadow of the Colossus, Ratchet and Clank, Devil May Cry series, Metal Gear Solid series, Timesplitters I, Dragonquest VIII, the Grand Theft Autos, Socom..Looking back at those games, would it have been worth $600 of an initial investment to play those games? With me, you're damn right.

I am not trying to convince anyone, but that is what I am thinking when I plunk down the money to purchase this gaming machine.

[tenzor]

well look at it this way

XBOX 360 Pro System - $399.99
XBOX 360 Wireless WiFi Adapter - $99.99
XBOX 360 HD-DVD Add-On (when released) - $99.99-$199.99?
XBOX Live Gold Service - $49.99 a year

Total - estimated around $700
Total - (w/o HD-DVD add on) $500


Playstation 3 High End System - $599.99 (includes Blu-Ray Player, WiFi, Free Online Service)


Total - $600

Nintendo Wii System - estimated $199.99-$299.99? (No Blu-Ray, HD-Dvd, but prob free online service, and wifi is free too I think)

Total - estimated around $200-$300

So if you look at it that way the PS3 isn't that bad because you get your money's worth. A blu-ray player itself right now will cost you about $1000, and the PS3 high end system already gives you the WiFi adapter built in so no need to pay the extra $100 dollars. Then the online service is rumored to be free, so no need to pay $50 a year. In the end it looks like the PS3 price is just about right.

The Wii however is not really trying to be all high-tech like the 360, and the PS3. Wii is more for gaming, classic gaming, and innovation. I myself will be getting a Wii also for that.

I will be looking forward to owning all three next-gen systems (already own a 360), since each system has its own unique features. I understand a lot of people won't have enough money to buy a PS3 at launch, but you still got a good system like the Wii coming out (at a decent price), along with good current gen systems like the Gamecube, PS2, DS, PSP, XBOX to keep you busy until a price drop occurs for the PS3.

[Fatesealer]

Let's check my track history:

PS2: Bought one at/near launch
GC: Bought one months after it came out
Xbox: Bought one months after it came out
Xbox360: Bought the day it came out
PS3: Too close to the date I move out of my apartment... if I can swing some overtime I'll buy. If not, pass.
Wii: No question - Ill buy at launch.

What most people have a problem with is being that guy/that girl - the first to have something. They aren't keeping up with the Joneses: they are trying to BE the Joneses to be caught up with. When Xbox 360 first came out, it was scarce everywhere. Now, 9 months later, you can pretty much go anywhere and get it. Hell there were like 10 at my CC that haven't moved and I've been to this store several times this last month.

Which brings me to now. PS3 has a high price tag and two editions. So does the 360. The premium wasn't exactly as 'limited mega scarce' as the folks said it would be ebcause you can still have a choice of either or. I want the $600 model of PS3 and I can WAIT for it. BLuRay? So what? I hardly use the DVD function on my current slim model PS2. Launch lineup? Nope, nothing I want at all.. I'll give it a year. BC? My PS2 still works and there are tons of games in the catalog that I still haven't played. SO Good luck to those that get one: I'll be patient.

[lordxixor101]

First, I hate the "Well, if you add everything up, the Xbox 360 costs the same amount". First off, it's coming in pieces, so you can pick and choose, but I digress.

Someone brought up something very interesting, that Sony might be trying to stop the ebayers here. Heck, 360's were going for 700, so why won't PS3's? So, they will sell early.

I wonder if Sony has a plan here that they aren't sharing. Notice how no one here is saying that they won't buy a PS3 (they will), just not at the current price. Here might be Sony's plan.

1) They know there won't be many PS3's for this Christmas anyway, so sell it at the high price. Put money in their pockets, not the resellers. Many people buying are early blue-ray adopters anyway. Not only are they getting a Blue-Ray here on the relative cheap, but people who may never have bought a game system before now have a PS3.

2) After they are regularly on the shelf (I'm figuring around E3 2007, rumors of price drops will hit. Maybe not a price drop from chart, but maybe throwing in a game or 2. They pick the right games, and the systems will move, especially the cheaper version for those that don't care about Blue-Ray.

The more I'm thinking about this, the more I think it could work out, and Sony comes out smelling like a rose. I think the launch here in 2006 really isn't for gamers, it's more for the cheaper Blu-Ray. Possibly for gamers, it'll be Christmas 07 before gamers really start buying the system. It's a huge risk, but with MS not seeming to be dominating right now (though, I really want one to play oblivion) and Nintendo's facination with connectivity (making you buy tons of attachments to play their games, something I think will happen a lot with the Wii, I think Sony might be able to ride this out.

We'll see, just a thought.

[botticus]

Since I don't particularly care for Metal Gear Solid, and at this point we don't know what other exclusives the PS3 will have, and I've survived without a PS1 or a PS2, I have no interest in a PS3. So remove your above statement ;)

Stopping the eBayers would do more to just stop sales. As I've said before, the number of 360s going for high value were probably 5% max (I don't recall the launch numbers, but it had to be over a million and the eBay numbers were in the tens of thousands). So this whole "people paid that much for the 360" line just isn't gonna cut it for the PS3.

[Strell]

Oh? It's worth $600?

....

So you have bought one then, right?

[epobirs]

The question isn't necessarily "Is the PS3 worth $600?" In terms of the combined functionality it offers, it is quite reasonable. But it hardly ends there.

I can easily manage to get financing for a $40K car that is worth every penny. But I will then have much of my life owned by the ongoing expense of car payments, much higher insurance, and other costs. While it would be a nice upgrade of my life to have that car it would also be far more burden than I'm willing to bear at this time.

The PS3 only qualifies its value if you're currently invested or planning an investment in a decent HDTV monitor. You could watch it on an NTSC screen but then you could also masturbate to the ladie's underwear section of a department store catalog because it's cheaper than a decent skin mag. Some things are hardly worth doing if you cannot properly accessorize it. Along the way you are also planning a steady flow of PS3 games and Blu-ray movies or what is the point of being an early adopter? If you wait for the premium model of the PS3 to drop to under $500 you'll also be rewarded with a good selection of heavily discounted games and movies.

I've bought a lot of systems at launch but no more. I may not get a Xbox 360 until well into next year and sometime in 2008 for the PS3. Getting a big stack of $5 games at GameRush last week makes it very easy to resist. The Wii's low price and features may win me over but whether I'll jump on the launch is a decision I'll leave for the last minute. The exact price, package and how much TRU credit I have piled up will be contributing factors to the decision.

[Quackzilla]

I agree, the PS3 is definitely WORTH $600, hell it's probably worth more.

But how many of us HAVE $600 to spend a gaming system?

"High-end" is a double edged sword...

[friedram]

Tell you what- it's worth $600 IF THE DAMNED THINGS LAST instead of dying all the time- ALA Xbox 360 or PS2. Hell... my Sega Saturn (Jap) and Dreamcast still work.

[Azumangaman]

I'm anti-spending 700+ dollars on a system and a game. It's ridiculous.

Same here! Especially when Kutaragi himself said that he can't guarantee the games to be 59.99 USD.
Take a look for yourself.http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151823

I'm guessing games to be about 69.99-74.99, which could destroy us all.

But anyway, I could buy a Wii and an XBox 360 (Canadian) 400 for Xbox, 250 (not official of course), for Wii. That's 50 dollars more than the PS3. And of course I could find lower prices on both of those systems.

Although PS3 *may* be superior, I'm going to pass. It's way to expensive (tax here is 14%) and the Canadian price is 649.99 (60gig). Add tax to that, and your past 700. Add some games, and who knows, you could be at 1000!

[javeryh]

I will not be buying a PS3 until it hits at least $400 for the premium system. I can afford it but it's just too much money to spend for something to play video games. Plus, I think my Wii and 360 will just about cover me except for the Sony exclusives like R&C and MGS...

[sying]

I think the PS3's 600 is worth it. What other console keeps your buns warm and knocks out the fat at the same time?

[Strell]

I think the PS3's 600 is worth it. What other console keeps your buns warm and knocks out the fat at the same time?

Oh shut up. There's no need for that.

After all, how can it knock out the fat when it's making you waffles at the same time?

That's not something we can joke about in society today.

[SilverPaw750]

The PS3 is absolutely worth $600.
No it's not.

[sethrhf]

Is the Playstation worth $600?

YES YES YES it is worth $600

They are not making any money on the hardware side.

Can the average gamer afford it?

NO NO NO

Is it a smart move?

NO



Most of the systems I have bought in my lifetime on or near launch day



Coleco Vision - Bought winter of 82 $249.99 was it worth it in 82 dollars hell yes, but then again games were only $20
Atari 5200 - Bought spring of 83 $199.99
Nintendo had 85 system bought at Hills $199.99 Robot Version was $249.00 or $279.99
Sega Master System 86 $199.99
Genisis $249.99 launch day
Turbo Graphx 16 - $199.99
Super Nintendo $199.99
Turbo CD - $399.99
Lynx 1 $199.99
Neo Geo Gold - $499.99
Turbo Duo -$299.99
3d0- $499.99 Four weeks after $699.99 launch
Jaguar- $249.99
Lynx 2 - $99.99
CD-I second Gen with MPEG 1 card $499.99
Sega Saturn- Launch day $399.99 - now that was crazy
Playstation - $299.99
Nintendo 64 $199.99
Dreamcast - $199.99

Was out of the country for the launch of the PS2. PLUS I WAS DIE HARD DREAMCAST. PS2 launch sucked big time.
I waited till the Gran Tourismo 3 pack in before I bought a PS2 that was $229

Gamecube $199.99
Xbox- $299.99
Gameboy SP $89.99
DS + Mario launch $159.99
Xbox 360 - $275 after 30% off $400 price

Will I buy a PS3 on launch day? No. Wait till I can get 20% off at Meijers or wait for the first price drop.

I got too little time and too many games anyway.

By that time I'll be able to pick up PS3 titles used buy 2 get 1 free at EB or Gamestop.

I'm all about saving money now.

[epobirs]

I will not be buying a PS3 until it hits at least $400 for the premium system. I can afford it but it's just too much money to spend for something to play video games. Plus, I think my Wii and 360 will just about cover me except for the Sony exclusives like R&C and MGS...

You're in luck! The PS3 will be at least $400 at launch. By $100 and $200 margins depending on SKU.

Perhaps you meant under $400?

[epobirs]

Tell you what- it's worth $600 IF THE DAMNED THINGS LAST instead of dying all the time- ALA Xbox 360 or PS2. Hell... my Sega Saturn (Jap) and Dreamcast still work.

My launch PS2 and Xbox still work perfectly. Does my anecdotal experience trump yours?

[dwhelan]

I am not sure that the PS3 is worth 600 and the arguments given here did not really sway me, but maybe someone can address my issues

1) People say that the PS3 will function as a Linux workstation.

Will it run KDE or Gnome or is that going to be a Linux command line?
Will the browser let you update flash or other plug-ins?
Will Sony let us install applications (i.e. Open Office) on the system?
What programs will be compatible with the cell processor other then Sony's distro and OS X?
Will there be virus protection and definition upgrades?
Will I be able to print to a wireless print server, or use the USB port to hook up a printer?
Will core files be stored on the hard drive?

2) People are also saying PS3 will have built in wireless to work with Sony's online plan

What is the plan?
Who is playing for the bandwidth?
Will there be a ping limit?
What encryption schemes are built in?
Will the MAC address be accessible?
Will I have to be online for console updates or is there an alternative method of obtaining them?

3) PS3 will be the cheap High Definition Player

Will it be able to play CD media, since the PC drives do not?
Will I be able to integrate a universal remote with the system?
Will HDMI with CPM be the only way for me to see the 1080p picture?

4) Misc.

Will the cooling system be enough for a component in an enclosed TV center?
Will the PS3 broadcast PSP firmware updates to force PSP owner to upgrade?
Finally, will there be some magical shortage in October, shrinking the 8 excepted units to gaming store further down?

I tried to keep my questions in the realm of the system and not the games. I will admit that if Sony pulls off all their promises it would be an amazing system. But I can remember when PS2 was supposed to replace my computer, and that never happened (Heck I remember when NES was supposed to be used to trade stocks) but promises and end results are extremely different.

Finally, if I hear another statement about how we no longer need out computers when PS3 comes out, I know I will not buy it. Any company so convinced that they can offer a single locked down solution for my media lifestyle is too pompous to invest in because in the end they will fail.

P.S. Epobirs I have seen 10 times the amount of malfunctioning wide Ps2 to functioning ones but I also used to work for a gaming company so maybe that is expected.