I got officially blacklisted at EB Games today!

[Kerig]

To those of you not following the "trade 3 get $10 bonus" thread at EB Games, there have been a few loopholes found for a deal or two. I found one, and tried it out a bit the other day. It went something like this:

Buy a few cheap games ($1.99/$2.99) for about $6.27 (after 10% Edge Discount) at EB/Gamestop, then trade them later in groups of 3 at a time, and get $14.40 (w/10% Edge Bonus) in credit. Net Credit Gain: $8.13 per transaction.

I jokingly mentioned in the EB thread about doing it once a day until the deal is over, a total of 25 days for July. I would never do that, but figured I would try it out just a bit.

Here's how it went:

Day 1:
EB Games 1: Purchased 3 Powerdrome, 1 Gran Turismo3 , 2 Max Payne, 2 The Getaway.

EB Games 2: Purchased 2 Powerdrome, 4 Gran Turismo3, 1 Airblade.

Day 2:
EB Games 3: Traded in 1 set of 3
EB Games 4: Traded in 1 set of 3
EB Games 5: Traded in 1 set of 3

Yes, we have that many EB's here, and that's NOT including G-Spot locations, I stay away from them, one even literally smells like rotten eggs/sulfur 24/7...something wrong with the store, I guess. I hope the rent is cheap there. One day soon I'll be going there and asking them why their store always reeks of fart. On to Day 3, where the problems begin:

Day 3:
EB Games 4: Traded in a 2nd set of 3, no problem (diff. employees from last time.)
EB Games 2: Tried trading in a 2nd set of 3. This is where things get hairy. The employee remembered me from the day before, and says, "I'm not taking these from you, you just traded in pretty much the same thing yesterday, I think you've made enough profit from it already." I say OK, and leave nicely. No mess no fuss. I figured I've got 4 other locations, 1 of which I've never traded any sets to...

Day 4: (Today)
EB Games 1: (back to the original one, which is even in a different state than the other locations)
Trading in my FIRST set to them, he takes a look at the games and asks "What's your name?" I tell him my first name, he says hold on, grabs a binder from behind the counter, flips through a few memos and then says: "sorry, I can't take trades from you, I've been told by the District Manager not to."

Intrigued, I start asking questions: "did I reach my trade limit?", "Does it really have my name on there?", "Can I trade better/other games in?". He apologizes for the situation and says "it's vague, but it pretty much says not to take trades from you until further notice".

I almost feel honored at the overnight infamous status I've gotten, and it's even state-crossing. He mentioned it had my name (including my last name, which I never told him), in the memo, but he wouldn't let me actually read the memo. When I asked, he looked it over once more, then closed the book quickly and shoved it back behind the counter and said: "no, sorry, I can't do that".

The most ironic part of this is that it was my last set of games I was planning on trading in, and then my experiment would have been over.

Moral of the story:

1. EB Games really DOES have a blacklist (I thought CAGs were just being silly by saying that so frequently in the threads).

2. EB Games has no problem raping us with their trade-in credit prices, but when their own pants get a quick drop, they castrate you within 24 hours.

FINAL NOTE: I admit what I was doing was a bit underhanded, but nothing I did was illegal, fraudulent, or dishonest. It was a simple loophole, and I respect their decision to deny my 5th trade. Heck, I even PLAYED the games I bought before trading them in, and now I know why they're $1.99 :). The only thing I don't like was how they did it. A silent memo with my name specifically blacklisted, instead of a more logical across-the-board approach to the loophole problem (perhaps pulling all 2 or 3 of the $1.99 games from the shelves until the deal is over? How could they not see that coming?)

[vietgurl]

It looks like you were only blacklisted in your district though. Try asking for the district manager's number and see if you can sort things out with him.

[Skelah]

It seems wrong you traded in 2 sets of games u paid for a few days before whats wrong about that?? U couldve played and beat those games and wanted to trade them this isnt the same as buying cheap games elsewhere and trying to build credit you shouldve threw a fit when the original guy refused to let u trade.
They let u buy games from them but not trade them back in??? Id flat out tell them to there face ITS NOT MY PROBLEM trade my games or I report to the bbb .

[Radioactive_Man]

If I didn't work at GS I would be doing the same thing you guys are doing. Too bad they would track my trades on the quick.

[Pookymeister]

I dont know - they ask for your name, phone, address etc etc. But do they do any verification after the fact? Is there any reason you can't have a new name every time you walk into an EB, besides the fact that the clerk might remember you as someone else yesterday?

[GrimNecroWizard]

Sweet, I might walk down to EB and buy some of those games, walk across the street and trade them to Gamestop then buy some from them and trade them at EB

[js1]

I think that the problem was that you tried to do multiple sets of the same games, instead of trading one set of 3 at each store, while you picked up more,1.99-2.99 games.

[Vinny]

Tell the BBB that they have a blacklist. Why? Because it's racist. Or better yet, tell them they put you on the blacklist because of your skin color.

(Yes, I am being sarcastic.)

[whoknows]

Now I want to do this to see if I get on the blacklist :lol:

[Kerig]

I think that the problem was that you tried to do multiple sets of the same games, instead of trading one set of 3 at each store, while you picked up more,1.99-2.99 games.

I know it's confusing, but I actually only traded in one set per visit, and I never mixed buying/selling during the same visit (except once when I was buying completely unrelated games for myself while trading in). I also never used duplicate titles in the same transaction: it was always: 1 Gran Turismo3, 1 Powerdrome, and 1 $2.99 game: Max Payne/Airblade/The Getaway.

AMUSING SIDENOTE: on one occasion, the clerk said he wouldn't accept The Getaway because it was too scratched up, and the $2 resurfacing fee would bring the trade-in value to Negative $1. He then said it also wouldn't count towards the $10 bonus because they have to be in working condition to qualify. I didn't bother telling him I just bought it the day before from another EB, but instead went to my car and grabbed a mint Max Payne for the 3rd game. Worked fine.

Pooky: EB falls under Pawn Shop laws here, they have to see and record valid ID for every trade they receive. (same reason why some EB's can't accept unopened games, they're not allowed to buy/resell new from off the street).

[RedvsBlue]

Thanks for the idea, I'll be duplicating it tomorrow!

[Pancake Rabbit]

Hold your head high Kerig, you sir are a true American hero.

[smash bro]

I would have made a scene if they told me that they wouldn't take my trades. I would have screamed someting like this, "I've made enought profit? I've made enough profit? I trade my games that I've paid full price for and you give a few dollars for each of them and then sell them for $5 under retail? I've made enough profit? How about that when you make these ****ty little trade-in deals to get $10 extra, you drop the trade value of the games $3 or $4. I've made enough profit? **** you!" Or something along those lines, maybe not the last sentence, but I would definitely make my opinion of those stores heard.

[Sporadic]

It seems wrong you traded in 2 sets of games u paid for a few days before whats wrong about that?? U couldve played and beat those games and wanted to trade them this isnt the same as buying cheap games elsewhere and trying to build credit you shouldve threw a fit when the original guy refused to let u trade.
They let u buy games from them but not trade them back in??? Id flat out tell them to there face ITS NOT MY PROBLEM trade my games or I report to the bbb .


I would have made a scene if they told me that they wouldn't take my trades. I would have screamed someting like this, "I've made enought profit? I've made enough profit? I trade my games that I've paid full price for and you give a few dollars for each of them and then sell them for $5 under retail? I've made enough profit? How about that when you make these ****ty little trade-in deals to get $10 extra, you drop the trade value of the games $3 or $4. I've made enough profit? **** you!" Or something along those lines, maybe not the last sentence, but I would definitely make my opinion of those stores heard.

What the hell has happened to this site?

This is a crack in the system and you guys get pissed when they bust out the Spackle? Imagine that, EB hates giving away money especially when you make it really obvious that you are taking advantage of them.

"DAMN U EB IWNT TEH FREE MONEIES YOU RICK fuckS :bomb: ILL CALL TEH BBB ON U LIERS I M ONLY TRING TO EXPLETE U:bomb: "

[Ma12kez]

Day 4: (Today)
EB Games 1: (back to the original one, which is even in a different state than the other locations)
Trading in my FIRST set to them, he takes a look at the games and asks "What's your name?" I tell him my first name, he says hold on, grabs a binder from behind the counter, flips through a few memos and then says: "sorry, I can't take trades from you, I've been told by the District Manager not to." Maybe you should have given him a different name? It's not like they have pictures of you all over their offices or something. Although that would be extreme, but funny at the same time.

[kjauburn]

The new Cag flash mob lets see how many of us could get banned. HAHHAHAHA... Really it wouldn't be that hard to do. Everyone could visit walmart grab the 3 pack for $10 from last christmas and hit every ebgames you could find. Imagine organizing that and ebgames buying 1000 copies of powerdrome in one day, talk about getting their panties in a bunch...

[rodeojones903]

The whole "I'll call the BBB" routine does not work at all. The BBB does nothing and holds no power over companies. The BBB is just like bizrate, most companies don't give a fuck what they say about them. The BBB gets so many complants per day about large corporations, its become common place.

[kjauburn]

The whole "I'll call the BBB" routine does not work at all. The BBB does nothing and holds no power over companies. The BBB is just like bizrate, most companies don't give a fuck what they say about them. The BBB gets so many complants per day about large corporations, its become common place.

Have to agree 100% on the BBB nowadays. Do you know they sell memberships to companies. I get cold call from them all the time about paying a $250 fee to be a member of the BBB. The fee includes a plaque, description of company, use of logo on company material, etc. They are a joke...

[RedvsBlue]

Have to agree 100% on the BBB nowadays. Do you know they sell memberships to companies. I get cold call from them all the time about paying a $250 fee to be a member of the BBB. The fee includes a plaque, description of company, use of logo on company material, etc. They are a joke...

That's the way they've always been...

[62t]

if thing doesnt work out you can always kick a magazine rack.

[Skelah]

The whole "I'll call the BBB" routine does not work at all. The BBB does nothing and holds no power over companies. The BBB is just like bizrate, most companies don't give a fuck what they say about them. The BBB gets so many complants per day about large corporations, its become common place.

Its the mind game tho not everyone knows this and if your a low level employee and ur manager is out u dont wanna deal with bad thoughts like that.

[botticus]

The whole "I'll call the BBB" routine does not work at all. The BBB does nothing and holds no power over companies. The BBB is just like bizrate, most companies don't give a fuck what they say about them. The BBB gets so many complants per day about large corporations, its become common place.
The BBB is a fairly respected organization by consumers. What reporting someone does (not that I'm advocating it in this case) is leave an open complaint on their record until it is resolved somehow. That means when new customer A wants to see what kind of organization EB is, they could look them up with the BBB, and now they will see an open complaint. No company wants that, so they usually just deal with it and move on.

... I think I'll stop trading in GR clearance games now. Though at least the multiple copies of games I'm trading in are still being sold for a profit.

[zebbers]

The whole "I'll call the BBB" routine does not work at all. The BBB does nothing and holds no power over companies. The BBB is just like bizrate, most companies don't give a what they say about them. The BBB gets so many complants per day about large corporations, its become common place.

While it still does require willful action on the corporations part, they usually do care. I recently complained to the BBB for a graphics card company that didn't honor my rebate cause it was "2 days late". I tend to stay away from mail in rebates because they are a scam but anyhoo. Complained to the BBB and by the end of the week I had an email from the company telling me they will honor it.

[schuerm26]

I have 2 things to says about this type of trade in.

1. I like it and if a company puts you on the blacklist when you are doing something perfectly legal, it is a joke. They set up this trade in system. If they didn't think of loopholes then screw them.

2. If to many people do this and they get screwed over to much, THEY WON'T DO THIS DEAL AGAIN!!!


#2 is more than likely to happen so why not just show some restraint and not screw it up for everyone.

Speaking of rotten eggs, i was in a g-stop in my area the other day and that is EXACTLY what it smelled like. It was amazing that people could actually be working in there.

[bradtwitty]

You knew that you had a good chance of getting busted for cheating the system. You know this because you went to four different stores, one in another state. If you thought that there really wasnt anything wrong with what you are doing then you wouldn't have done that. Buisnesses make money, that is what they do. If someone is ripping them off then they have to stop doing buisness with that person. That is a very smart District Manager and you got what you had coming.

[Skylander7]

I'd have walked in the next day shitfaced and taken a slam in the bargain bin.. who knows. Just aim at the disc only copy of Oni or something

[botticus]

You knew that you had a good chance of getting busted for cheating the system. You know this because you went to four different stores, one in another state. If you thought that there really wasnt anything wrong with what you are doing then you wouldn't have done that. Buisnesses make money, that is what they do. If someone is ripping them off then they have to stop doing buisness with that person. That is a very smart District Manager and you got what you had coming.
I don't think he is arguing that.

For once, this is a time where GameRush actually had a better policy :shock:

Set up a minimum sale price for qualifying games or don't allow the buy back price to exceed the used price, and there's no way for people to exploit this for their profit/EB's loss.

I bought and traded some of the 2.99 games a couple times, usually just when I needed another game or two to hit the 4-game limit (before the trade 3 started). Of course, that was before the $1 minimum trade value started, so I didn't really have a chance at much of a profit.

[Lizard Axe]

This kind of reminds me of the trading in the Suikoden games and how people used to trade stuff like this a long time ago.

I guess EB doesn't like it when people play their own game.

[Dr Mario Kart]

Its up to EB to close the loophole and make it to where those games arent eligible for the promotion. To single the OP out is not the right way to do it.

[Mookyjooky]

Some peoples time is worth this.


Gas to go to EB twice a day, or at least once.
Time to hunt for old crappy games
Time to plan this scheme.This hardly seems worth the 8 bucks a day. Get a real job and make 8 bucks in an hour, and you dont have to be a douche or get blacklisted from EB.

[GizmoGC]

Solution? Get a friend to do the trading, lol

[Daddy]

JUST A HINT.....there are eb games managers on this site...try PMing your master plans instead of posting....also they do have a 3 time limit on promos. I anally RAPED eb for about $2000 in credit before they changed the policy on trade in for pre order...now you cant cancel...it went like this:

Buy cheap games abour 5 bucks to 9 bucks (red hot volleyball and outlaw golf and such) trade in 4 or 5 get a PSP or PS2 or Xbox game free for a preorder...then when it comes in or before cancel it or return it and put towrds what you want....about a year back or so now....but it was insane...they had the madden deal killer 7...you name it...it was crazy....i was black listed and it was funny....the last time i went to do it they just changed the preorder rules about cancelling or returning them. This wasnt as bad as yours as i wasnt buying there games to return them right back but they hated me either way and it was pretty unfair. i did go to multiple Eb's but i am also one of there best customers as well. So in essense i give them alot of my money i just got some of it back thats all

PS- My profit was about 45 bucks on each set.....i did about 40 sets, and the time was easy a friend gave me the list of PO games (yes they pulled the PO games list off the site around the same time they stopped the cancel preorder deals) and gas...well I have 6 eb's within 5 miles of me. I made alot of ROI baby


I think the funniest part is mine was not illegal or dishonest...they wanted games, i gave them games and put them towards there deal....what would have been bad is if I took half the credit for cash, but im getting games either way so it wasnt worth it. i just find the whole thing funny and so does my friend who runs an eb.....they dont like to lose apparently

[mykevermin]

Though I don't care for retail schmucks very much, I respect the fact that you didn't throw a temper tantrum to the clerks about being blacklisted.

We have a great number of grown-up five year olds who would prefer kicking and screaming because they couldn't trade in a copy of fuckin' "Black and Bruised" than acting like an adult. Kudos to you.

[Daddy]

Yeah i smiled at them i knew i had it made and they hated me for it b//c they couldnt do it themselves...a couple of places were like "damn thats awesome!"

[mykevermin]

Actually, I was referring to the OP.

I stopped reading your post once I saw that "anal rape" was being used as a literary witticism, as if it were (1) creative or (2) tasteful.

[the3rdkey]

You stuck it to the video game man. I salute you.

[Daddy]

Actually, I was referring to the OP.

I stopped reading your post once I saw that "anal rape" was being used as a literary witticism, as if it were (1) creative or (2) tasteful.

Sorry thats the "gamer" part of me talking...to much GRAW as of late...bahbah...either way Mr. rogers Eb got "pwned" lol

[SaraAB]

You dont have to waste gas to see whats in stock in a store, all you do is go to gamestop.com and use the store locater on the game you are looking for, it updates within an hour of each game being sold (i tested it) so its very reliable.

It sounds like they had a problem with you buying the games at ebgames and trading them in at the same chain, i traded in many multiple copies of games from the kmart sales and i have not had a problem yet, i did open my games and i did actually play some of them, i never tried to trade in something that was in shrinkwrap. This really is their fault and there must be some pretty stupid people running ebgames right now on the higher ups side of things (above the district manager) because if intelligent people were running the corporation they would have closed the obvious loophole somehow.

But congrats, you sucessfully beat the system!!!! This is for everytime ebgames sold you a game with a million stickers on it, for every time they tried to sell you a used game as new, for every time they gave you a so-called display copy of a game that the employees have either played in the store or taken home and played, for everytime they stickered up the packaging on your supposedly new game... etc. I do applaud you for not acting like a 5 year old and punching the clerks and stuff, what i think you should do is try to sort things out with the district manager, explain that this was an obvious loophole in the system and that you were not doing anything illegal, essentially you were just doing the deal legally. If they see that you are a cool, calm and rational person they might just change their mind, also if they dont, call them out on some of the above stuff, ask them why they sell games as display copies, and why they sell used games as new, you know they are doing it, so call them out on it, show them that the district manager and their employees are not perfect either, be sure to call them out on the whole "display copy" game fiasco, and state that you know the employees take the games home and play them or play them in the store on the store systems, tell them that you have bought gba games that were supposedly new that already had save data on them etc...

If you cant get hold of the district manager you can go to www.gamestopfeedback.com (i am sure you have a reciept from a recent ebgames purchase), explain the situation and request a reply from the manager.

[Daddy]

The trade back the games you just bought things I can see being bad, but to stop you from trading games in each day is plain ridiculous

[Vinny]

While it still does require willful action on the corporations part, they usually do care. I recently complained to the BBB for a graphics card company that didn't honor my rebate cause it was "2 days late". I tend to stay away from mail in rebates because they are a scam but anyhoo. Complained to the BBB and by the end of the week I had an email from the company telling me they will honor it.

I too feel that the BBB must hold some power... I used to complain though emails all the time before (didn't care to be kept on hold) and I never got replies. Then, I mentioned the BBB on two occasions (one for GS and the other to CompUSA). The DM from GS actually called me and asked me what he'd like me to do (an employee lied to me about a product). And with CompUSA, the manager emailed me back saying that she'd price match my item if I bought the receipt back to the store.

[Broccoli Storm]

This reminds me of what I did with Blockbuster last summer...One day, I was in there right when the trade in 3 get any used game for $5 deal started, and I noticed that there were a bunch of refurbished games. Most of them weren't anything special, but there were a few God of Wars, Fight Nights, and Midnight Dub whatever it's called. They were also having the buy 2 get 1 free sale going on...so, I bought all of them, and started trading them in right away for the games...after I traded in about 3 sets, the district manager actually called my house and told me that she was going to call the police on me the next day. I calmly explained to her that this was not against the trading guidelines and she just got even angrier and told me to wait until tomorrow because I was going to be arrested for sure.

She called me the next day saying she had spoken to the loss prevention department of the company and that what I was doing was perfectly legal and ok. She apologized and told me that what I was doing was sneaky, but smart. Just to rub it in, I went back there and traded about 9 or 10 copies of each.

In the end, I ended up with a little over a thousand dollars in credit plus a bunch of good pre-owned games.

The moral of the story is, every time any store has a deal that gets exploited, the store always blames you for doing something horrible. These things are not hard for BB or GS or EB to fix. Just add a few extra conditions to the deal, and it's done with. If they don't want to get screwed, they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place.

[Desiboi1992]

I tried that.. but then my GS said that the game u trade in has to be 29.99 or more in store.. THOSE FUC*ERS!

[noodles]

Actually, I was referring to the OP.

I stopped reading your post once I saw that "anal rape" was being used as a literary witticism, as if it were (1) creative or (2) tasteful.

best.post.ever. :applause:

[Daddy]

best.post.ever. :applause:

Considering youve only been on here for maybe 2 weeks thats funny

[noodles]

Considering youve only been on here for maybe 2 weeks thats funny

You're going to set my country music award on fire?

[Daddy]

You're going to set my country music award on fire?


Anyway enough highjacking the thread....


Im glad to see someone else made out on Blockbuster deals as well

[dracula]

Maybe you should have given him a different name? It's not like they have pictures of you all over their offices or something. Although that would be extreme, but funny at the same time.


i think they need to check your drivers license?

[wbc1228]

In the end, I ended up with a little over a thousand dollars in credit plus a bunch of good pre-owned games.

The moral of the story is, every time any store has a deal that gets exploited, the store always blames you for doing something horrible. These things are not hard for BB or GS or EB to fix. Just add a few extra conditions to the deal, and it's done with. If they don't want to get screwed, they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place.

that is the moral of the story?!
lol

hum.............
according to your justification:
- if people forget to lock their doors, it is perfectly OK to take stuff away from them since " they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place".
- if a hot chick was walking alone at night in a dark alley, you would probably rape her and your reasoning would be that it was her fault for being vulnerable in the first place.

just because there is a loophole in the policy, it doesn't justify you abusing it.

[Daddy]

that is the moral of the story?!
lol

hum.............
according to your justification:
- if people forget to lock their doors, it is perfectly OK to take stuff away from them since " they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place".
- if a hot chick was walking alone at night in a dark alley, you would probably rape her and your reasoning would be that it was her fault for being vulnerable in the first place.

just because there is a loophole in the policy, it doesn't justify you abusing it.


Um there is no loophole they should have put the restriction on the games (as in make them NON PO TITLES) so they couldnt be used for the deal....in your case posted above the restrictions are called LAWS set forth so idiots dont do the things you posted like rape people or steal....hence EB should think before they set up a deal like hey maybe we should take out games people can pick up in the bin in front of our registers and re use back to us for this deal? EB needed to get there act together.....either way Gamestop will screw the trade in stuff either way....youd figure they would pay someone to watch out for this stuff. the fact that they tried to involve the police and threaten people is EXACTLY what the BBB is for....you should have called them in that case saying you were threated by an employee for following thier policy and they didnt like it....that would have shut her up

[gofishn]

that is the moral of the story?!
lol

hum.............
according to your justification:
- if people forget to lock their doors, it is perfectly OK to take stuff away from them since " they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place".
- if a hot chick was walking alone at night in a dark alley, you would probably rape her and your reasoning would be that it was her fault for being vulnerable in the first place.

just because there is a loophole in the policy, it doesn't justify you abusing it.

That is probably the worst logic I have ever seen.

[guessed]

that is the moral of the story?!
lol

hum.............
according to your justification:
- if people forget to lock their doors, it is perfectly OK to take stuff away from them since " they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place".
- if a hot chick was walking alone at night in a dark alley, you would probably rape her and your reasoning would be that it was her fault for being vulnerable in the first place.

just because there is a loophole in the policy, it doesn't justify you abusing it.
Stealing and rape, in addition to being immoral, are both illegal, i.e., they are against the "rules". Neither buying games from BB/EB/GS nor trading games in to BB/EB/GS is illegal or against any posted rules, in fact, they are activities encouraged by BB/EB/GS. Your analogies are terrible.

Edit: Beaten to the post.

[schuerm26]

This reminds me of what I did with Blockbuster last summer...One day, I was in there right when the trade in 3 get any used game for $5 deal started, and I noticed that there were a bunch of refurbished games. Most of them weren't anything special, but there were a few God of Wars, Fight Nights, and Midnight Dub whatever it's called. They were also having the buy 2 get 1 free sale going on...so, I bought all of them, and started trading them in right away for the games...after I traded in about 3 sets, the district manager actually called my house and told me that she was going to call the police on me the next day. I calmly explained to her that this was not against the trading guidelines and she just got even angrier and told me to wait until tomorrow because I was going to be arrested for sure.

She called me the next day saying she had spoken to the loss prevention department of the company and that what I was doing was perfectly legal and ok. She apologized and told me that what I was doing was sneaky, but smart. Just to rub it in, I went back there and traded about 9 or 10 copies of each.

In the end, I ended up with a little over a thousand dollars in credit plus a bunch of good pre-owned games.

The moral of the story is, every time any store has a deal that gets exploited, the store always blames you for doing something horrible. These things are not hard for BB or GS or EB to fix. Just add a few extra conditions to the deal, and it's done with. If they don't want to get screwed, they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place.

Notice how Blockbuster has never done that sale again. Because of a few greedy bastards it screws it up for everyone. It's people like you with a short sighted mindset that screw it up for everyone.

[King_Sprout]

Notice how Blockbuster has never done that sale again. Because of a few greedy bastards it screws it up for everyone. It's people like you with a short sighted mindset that screw it up for everyone.

Yeah, and BB is all I have around here. Stop being assholes and cut down on the exploiting loopholes, other customers exist too.

[Daddy]

Yeah, and BB is all I have around here. Stop being assholes and cut down on the exploiting loopholes, other customers exist too.


I used to say that all the time but ya know what they still do BOGO's and this site has hoarders out the ying yang that scap stuff up on deals just read this thread:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79164


Point is you snooze you lose...and if they set up deals that backfire well set them up better next time to prevent this stuff. You cant set up a lemonade stand and not expect bugs to attack your stand....come prepared (I think this works better than the rape/steal example...lol)

[Broccoli Storm]

And PS, I also traded a lot of those games/sold them at a fair price to people on the site and I've done the same for other deals, but anyway, this thread is not going to get into another 'opinions on hoarding' thread.

[hotwls13]

Flipping has been around for a long time and had always been frowned upon.

Scenario 1: I personally don't have a problem with picking up some cheap games from TRU, CC, BB etc and trading them in to GR or EB to double or triple my gaming value. Maybe even going back and forth between GR and EB to further increase my gaming value (although I don't have enough time to do this with any kind of regularity). This is basically a supply and demand system, you just happen to have good suppliers (CAG).

Scenario 2: What I do have a problem with is buying games from EB than going back the next day to trade them in for more profit at EB. I don't blame them for banning you. What would you do if you owned a Franchise/business and every day some kid comes in, smiles at you, all the while sticking it to you and basically taking money from your business. Yes there is a loophole, which evidently in your case they have closed.

Scenario 2 is why we see these trade-in deals less and less. People see $$$ and decide to go and rack up hundreds even thousands of dollars of credit and then get pissed when these company's catch you.

I'm no saint, and I have made my share of $$ and gotten my share of practically free games, but personally for me flipping is pretty much stealing. Stealing is wrong, therefore I don't flip.

OK I'm geting off my soap box now.

[help1]

I used to say that all the time but ya know what they still do BOGO's and this site has hoarders out the ying yang that scap stuff up on deals just read this thread:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79164


Point is you snooze you lose...and if they set up deals that backfire well set them up better next time to prevent this stuff. You cant set up a lemonade stand and not expect bugs to attack your stand....come prepared (I think this works better than the rape/steal example...lol)

Your grammar is terrible and the only form of grammar you actually use is the ellipses.

[ajh2298]

I stoped at my EB today to pick-up a Power Drome for $1.99, I needed it to make sure I had 5 sets of 3 to trade in. While I was there I asked the guy about people buying up all the $1.99 and $2.99 and trading them right back in the next day. He told me it kinda helps the numbers for the stores in a weird sort of way.

[botticus]

I stoped at my EB today to pick-up a Power Drome for $1.99, I needed it to make sure I had 5 sets of 3 to trade in. While I was there I asked the guy about people buying up all the $1.99 and $2.99 and trading them right back in the next day. He told me it kinda helps the numbers for the stores in a weird sort of way.
Not weird at all, really... sure the actual amount of money is important, but as we all know, trades, used game sales, and preorders are their big numbers.

[CocheseUGA]

I'm not really a fan of flipping, but I don't really care anymore. There's nothing anyone can do about it, and it's not going to go away. Why not get into the action a little. I would have done what the OP did in a heartbeat, mainly because those are some damn shitty titles no one wants anyways. While you may not agree with that logic, I don't care. I differentiate between a shitty $2 title, and a short-lived sale title that people want, because I've been there.

I don't understand why because a company does something, it's ok for them to do it and a person not to. EB/GS absolutely rapes you on trade-ins, why not get a little back? If they close the loophole, there isn't anything you can do. They absolutely CAN and WILL stop you from trading. They can refuse your business for any reason, and sometimes will. Corporations have all the power. They've provided you with the opportunity to make up earnings on your trades, it should be your right to do so.

But what I will say is that if they had better trade-in prices, they might not have so many people trying to rip them off in return. I've not seen a better system in which the consumer gets the shaft in the video game world.

For the record, I don't think I've ever flipped a game (bought and traded in a short period of time), but I have made money/credit on games before. But they don't want you to make ANY kind of decent return on your games. A game they sell for $17.99 gets your $2.50 in credit? Fuck that, and fuck them.

We get excited when they offer us an extra $10 credit on 3? When did this become ok? It must be a good deal because all other times suck. So now the game I bought at $17.99 now gets me $5.83. Thank the maker, because that is such an awesome deal. I think by now everyone knows why I've only traded to them twice in my life. Give the companies who run better deals legitimate good trade-ins and watch EB panic. Support GR and Rhino (even though Blockbuster absolutely SUCKS as a corporation - enjoy these stores while they last) for their good deals, and don't do your business with EB as much as you can...at least with their cash cow - used items. I know everyone can't do this (sometimes that's the only place that has it), but someday they might get the picture.

Eh, don't mind me too much. It's late, and I've pissed myself over the Voter ID thing here (why the fuck is it so hard to show an ID to be able to vote?)

[King_Sprout]

Your grammar is terrible and the only form of grammar you actually use is the ellipses.

Yeah, most notably is the fact that he needs a few hundred goddamn commas to understand what the fuck he's saying.

[Skelah]

again I see no reason why some people get upset that some people actualy get a deal when they flip . Does anyone think about how they sell the games u flip to them for way more than what your getting even when your 'scamming there deals'.

Why cant we just get a specific percentage back on games we buy say a game comes out new for 50 for the first week it should be 40 in credit then 30 the week after then 20 then stay at 20 till the end of the year or a nationwide price drop gamers are getting scammed by the system DAILY.
I cant even own a sport game even tho I love basketball cause its like renting a game for 10 months its worthless.

[Broccoli Storm]

I know the difference is that GS/EB, etc. are stores and we are not, but aren't all retail stores techinically flipping? They buy games in bulk at a highly discounted price and then turn around and sell them for $50 or $60. I know it's not the same thing, and I realize it does stop some of these deals pre-maturely, but honestly, in the last 6 monhts alone, we've seen the TRU sale, CC sale, and a new GR promo in addition to this EB/GS deal. Obviously flipping and taking advantage of these deals does not stop them completely, so until that happens, which it probably never will, I don't think it's that huge of a deal.

[psiufoxx2]

Um.. in caps just to clarify: THERE IS NO BLACKLIST.

Honestly I think that employee just got hip to your scam and decided not to let you trade. We oftentimes forget that we are customers in retail stores, and if the store does not want to do business with us, they do not have to. There is no law stating that EB must accept your trades even if they are legit - they can refuse under any basis and any premise and they do not have to explain themselves.

This is not directed to you OP - but it just infuriates me when people cry foul because a retailer doesn't swallow their bait. Seriously, look up the law before you get all hot and bothered.

[Daddy]

Um.. in caps just to clarify: THERE IS NO BLACKLIST.

Honestly I think that employee just got hip to your scam and decided not to let you trade. We oftentimes forget that we are customers in retail stores, and if the store does not want to do business with us, they do not have to. There is no law stating that EB must accept your trades even if they are legit - they can refuse under any basis and any premise and they do not have to explain themselves.

This is not directed to you OP - but it just infuriates me when people cry foul because a retailer doesn't swallow their bait. Seriously, look up the law before you get all hot and bothered.

NOt an "official" blacklist its just one store calls another or 2-4 in the area and spreads your name and what your doin...there is no BLACKLIST in essense though they are tryin stop you like a bad check writer at a grocery store

[help1]

NOt an "official" blacklist its just one store calls another or 2-4 in the area and spreads your name and what your doin...there is no BLACKLIST in essense though they are tryin stop you like a bad check writer at a grocery store

Were you homeschooled?

[Daddy]

Were you homeschooled?


Yes your mom was my teacher, but no worries I taught her a thing or two. Why dont you stop tyring to jack the thread, I can type however I want its a message board not a spelling bee or grammar school fool.

Anyway flipping frowned upon I can see, but doing trade in deals is legit and they still stopped people from doing that too. EB is stupid like that

[psiufoxx2]

NOt an "official" blacklist its just one store calls another or 2-4 in the area and spreads your name and what your doin...there is no BLACKLIST in essense though they are tryin stop you like a bad check writer at a grocery storeI do agree with that -- the store clerks could have called around and been like "This guy is ripping us off."

Altogether it seemed to be a worthwhile experiment. You got away with 3 of 4 trades but then EB caught on. I say bravo to you and bravo to the EB team.

[Kerig]

Um.. in caps just to clarify: THERE IS NO BLACKLIST.

Honestly I think that employee just got hip to your scam and decided not to let you trade....they do not have to. There is no law stating that EB must accept your trades even if they are legit - they can refuse under any basis and any premise and they do not have to explain themselves.

Blacklist: a list of persons who are disapproved of or are to be punished or boycotted.

I went into EB having never traded the cheapies to that location or employee before. He took one look at the games and asked what my name is. I told him only my first name. He looked in a binder and after I requested him to, he read to me my last name. Definitely blacklisted.

You're 100% correct about EB not required to take my trade. Heck, not only is there no law stating they have to, but they have a nicely-sized sign on the counter saying they have the right to refuse any trades for any reason.

Ahj2298: You actually asked an employee about it?? :lol: You know, his answer about helping numbers is exactly what I was thinking. During one set I traded, the employee told me something to the effect of: "Wow, we're actually losing money on this trade, these games only sell for about $2 each." He said it as an employee should: matter-of-factly with a bit of surprise, but not the least bit of care or regret. This is their deal, they take what they get from it, and they should like it. (if you're wondering what my reply to that was: "It's not really money, it's just credit")

For the record: I won't be contacting anyone re: the situation, since I don't plan on trading in any more games for quite a while and I really don't feel like getting into a morality/policy grudge match with the DM (unless it were in person).

[Kerig]

Altogether it seemed to be a worthwhile experiment. You got away with 4 of 5 trades but then EB caught on. I say bravo to you and bravo to the EB team.

Thanks, I couldn't have summed it up better myself (and I can't exactly say "bravo to me", either). I think it was a win/win situation in the end.

[simpsonps121]

Kerig - You handled it well. I have 5 or 6 EB/GS in my region, and they all treat me great. It is a lot more valuable to have the CS like and respect you, than to try force the issue for $5. Even the initial buying and selling I have no problem with. Whenever they asked me to stop, I would politely agree to. :-)

Side note: My guys are great. They hold games for me, volunteer to ship games around for me, allow me to go from store to store for the buy 2 get 1 (to mix and match.) I guess it helps that I spend $200-$300 per store when a B2 get 1 shows up.

Moral of the story - Make money. No problem. Make friends - Great benefits.

Matthew

[Broccoli Storm]

Ugh...I can't believe there are actually GS/EBs with nice people. The other day I was in one and I wanted to get a GBA game that was used and I asked them if they kept the boxes or manuals when they were traded in. The guy responded "It's a videogame. You don't need the box and booklet to play it."

[Daddy]

Ugh...I can't believe there are actually GS/EBs with nice people. The other day I was in one and I wanted to get a GBA game that was used and I asked them if they kept the boxes or manuals when they were traded in. The guy responded "It's a videogame. You don't need the box and booklet to play it."


Ohhhh...thats a challenge...you should be like do you have XBL? We should play a match...school him then be like "Maybe you should have read the manual!"

[wubb]

Um.. in caps just to clarify: THERE IS NO BLACKLIST.

Honestly I think that employee just got hip to your scam and decided not to let you trade. We oftentimes forget that we are customers in retail stores, and if the store does not want to do business with us, they do not have to. There is no law stating that EB must accept your trades even if they are legit - they can refuse under any basis and any premise and they do not have to explain themselves.

This is not directed to you OP - but it just infuriates me when people cry foul because a retailer doesn't swallow their bait. Seriously, look up the law before you get all hot and bothered.

The flip side of that is a consumer has the right to bitch and complain about being refused service.

EB denying people that trade in too much is a little crappy IMO. They should just put out official written guidelines (i.e. We reserve the right to limit customers to trading in no more than 1 copy of any game within a 60 day time period.) and be done with it. I doubt there'd be much of an outcry on that sort of reg outside of people looking to do this sort of thing.

Frankly the whole thing is a non-issue for me as I greatly prefer cash to EB credit and you can typically do better than EB on ebay.

[ajh2298]

We got to remember for every person trading in a Power Drome, GT3, and Max Payne set, there might be another 2 people trading in sets of games they might make money on.

I have traded in about 170 games total this week during this promotion and I know for a fact I have traded in just as many good games then crappy ones.

[GrimNecroWizard]

that is the moral of the story?!
lol

hum.............
according to your justification:
- if people forget to lock their doors, it is perfectly OK to take stuff away from them since " they shouldn't put themselves in the position to do so in the first place".
- if a hot chick was walking alone at night in a dark alley, you would probably rape her and your reasoning would be that it was her fault for being vulnerable in the first place.

just because there is a loophole in the policy, it doesn't justify you abusing it.

Of course I would, considering trading in games to a company that rips thousans of people off everyday and raping is similiar.

-_- I love the terrible analogies some CAGs have.

[io]

We got to remember for every person trading in a Power Drome, GT3, and Max Payne set, there might be another 2 people trading in sets of games they might make money on.

I have traded in about 170 games total this week during this promotion and I know for a fact I have traded in just as many good games then crappy ones.

And don't forget, there's plenty of people trading in 1 or 2 games, or some amount that is not a multiple of 3 - and they are getting screwed out of the bonus (or at least part of it). Really, it is only those 3 games they will lose money on. The rest will still be priced at more than they give in credit (not that they will necessarily sell at that price of course). I don't feel bad at all for getting $3.33 on top of their crappy trade-in prices :D.

[friedram]

Some peoples time is worth this.


Gas to go to EB twice a day, or at least once.
Time to hunt for old crappy games
Time to plan this scheme.This hardly seems worth the 8 bucks a day. Get a real job and make 8 bucks in an hour, and you dont have to be a douche or get blacklisted from EB.


Buhahahaha- no doubt- awesome

[IAmTheCheapestGamer]

What I laugh at is how I exploited the trade values of certain cheap games I bought from EB/GS on my EDGE card and swapped to FYE. I got a PStwo slim with the credit from the running around.

So, flipping is a good thing, if done for a single solitary end, but just to amass massive amounts of credit to use 'later', it ruins it for everyone admittedly.

Although, I may try one or two of these game combos to my local EB/GS later today, I'll laugh if they try to deny me for the condition, when it came from their crap stores in the first place.

That part alone of the OPs original post made me laugh, them denying a copy of the one games because it was 'too scratched' and had to be resurfaced.

[Ilovephysics]

I had no idea that eb had ps2 games that were $1.99.. heh

[WolfPac_Ite]

Oh, Kerig. What have you intangled yourself with this time. :\

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

Bro, you should start going in with obvious disguises on just to fuck with them and create scenes. That would be fucking hilarious. For example, go in with one of those $1 big nose glasses like humpty used to wear. Then, get like a blue wig and go again. Man, that shit would be classic. Shit, I'd fly there just to tape it.