I'm bored, let's talk fighters 15th Anniversary Collection!

[62t]

So I've been playing a shitload of fighting games recently and I figured that it might be time to ditch the d-pad and start using an arcade stick. Unfortunately, I've never known how to use an arcade stick well in the arcades and I don't know anything about home arcade sticks so I do need some help deciding on what to get. So are there any relatively cheap sticks that are recommendable? I need it to work with the PS2, but it would also be nice to have it work with the Dreamcast and Xbox since I still have fighters on those systems as well. Also, what's a "Japanese style stick?"

Markman, this question is aimed somewhat directly at you.
you could easily get a PS2 to Gamecube/Xbox converter. I got one and I can easily use a ps controller on gamecube and xbox.

I think the best stick would be to get the SF or Tekken stick and mod with arcade parts, might be a little too much work.

[62t]

also the gamcube version of Battle Stadium D.O.N shipped!!! I will have to wait for the PS2 version.

[DomLando]

I usually prefer my Saturn controller pad for fighters. But I do use sticks to. I just got so used to pads back in the day when I did not have arcade sticks at home it became easier for me to use.

[whitereflection]

Has anyone seen the KOF anime/promo Another Day? Are there any others like it?

[RelentlessRolento]

Has anyone seen the KOF anime/promo Another Day? Are there any others like it?


I loved the Another Day minis that they had since they hit the mood of my liking pretty well... basicly very dark and serious...

As for pads vs. sticks I am currently stuck with pad, or have been for over 10 years already, but I know if I had a stick that I would be more comfortable with a stick. Every time I play on pad, it's feels normal to me, but on stick I feel like I don't know what I'm doing while feeling more natural... weird eh?

[asianxcore]

D-Pad Vs. Arcade Sticks?

I've gotten so used to default pads/controllers on consoles. I haven't owned an arcade stick since the SNES days, which I bought specifically for SF II. I do prefer arcade sticks though. When I'm able to find an arcade that has a fighting game I like, I feel much more comfortable with that setup. I also play a little different on consoles than I do in arcades. In Capcom fighters on consoles, I tend not to use MP/MK because of the layout of the controller. But in arcades, since the layout is there, I use all the buttons.

I recently got the Street Fighter Anniversary stick on the cheap, so hopefully I'm able to mod it correctly. I've never done a joystick mod before, but if I can get great buttons/joystick to go with that great artwork I'll be happy :)

[62t]

I actually prefer keyboard over d-Pad or Arcade Sticks

[kainzero]

finding your stick is all about preference really... and once you do find something that feels nice, stick with it.

japanese style sticks are the ones with the balltop, whereas american sticks look like baseball bats.

i personally prefer j-style sticks, since i really like how loose they are, but that's just me. i've had a friend who couldn't adjust until he started using an unmodded SFAC stick, which i thought was really really stiff and i couldn't get used to it at all.

the t5 stick imo is one of the best values for joysticks if you like the japanese style. a bit more upscale are the hori real arcade pro joysticks. the main difference is the quality of the joystick and the button position.

as for as american sticks, SFAC seems to be the only cheap option. i suppose you can mod it but for people who aren't experienced it's pretty scary. i don't know if MAS is still around, they used to make good (but pricey) sticks.

lastly, shoryuken.com's forums have some great stick makers. check the trading outlet section and hunt for sticks you want. i know some guys who've gotten sticks from finkle and they seem pretty solid... plus they put your name on it and the artwork you want so you can impress all your geeky friends =P

i just can't play fighting games on pads anymore. it feels so weird especially if it uses a 6 button layout... that's really the main reason i switched to sticks. even saturn-type pads, i can't get used to. =P

[MarkMan]

Pad vs Stick comes down to pure preference. It's really tough to decide especially if you're so used to something. If you want to start playing on stick, you gotta dedicate yourself to it and get used to it.

As far as sticks go, get a PS2 one, they have good convertors for both DC and Xbox, so that's the way to go.

The next order of business on deciding is whether you will go Japanese or American. Japanese style is like the Agetec DC stick aka Green Goblin, or the Tekken 5 Hori stick that came out here. American being the Street Fighter Anniversary stick from Nubytech. (Which IMO needs to be modded with real arcade parts)

American sticks are more circular in range of motion and have a wider throw/pull on the stick. Japanese sticks are usually by default, square gated and have a more restricted range of motion but require less input to be able to perform certain moves.

Buttons are buttons, but I'll say this, Japanese buttons feel much more comfortable. Sanwa buttons(not available on any retail stick except for the Hori Real Arcade Pro SA) are so comfortable and you don't even have to press on them hard for an input to register. Hori buttons are good too, but compared to the Sanwa buttons, they're nasty. American buttons are usually concave or convex. The better being the ones without the 'dimples' as they can actually hurt your fingers easier when you're trying to 'mash' out of certain moves etc.

That's all for now, I just woke up.

Back to finishing the Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection combo vid.

Btw, Tekken Zaibatsu is going to start the ghost system really soon, and it's going to feature some really cool listing options, be sure to check it out.

[Chacrana]

Wow. That's a lotta helpful information. I'm thinking that I'll try to find the Tekken stick somewhere (any suggestions?) since it seems relatively inexpensive and like it'd be a good basic stick. When I get used to the stick and get better I'll move up to something custom made though.

[SilverPaw750]

anyone know how easy it is to mod the Street Fighter Anniversary stick?

http://arcadestickmonk.com/SFACmod.html

I was reading through that mod there, and it seems very difficult for someone like myself, who have no experience at all doing stuff like that :)
Wondering the same thing. I have the money, and am on the fence with this one. I hate the buttons/joystick on my SFAC stick, but I'm afraid I might fuck it up if I try to mod it...

[Jimbo Slice]

Wondering the same thing. I have the money, and am on the fence with this one. I hate the buttons/joystick on my SFAC stick, but I'm afraid I might fuck it up if I try to mod it...

Yeah but if you hate it to where it's unplayable, then why not try and mod it? If you fuck it up, you'll still have a nice collection piece.

[asianxcore]

Wondering the same thing. I have the money, and am on the fence with this one. I hate the buttons/joystick on my SFAC stick, but I'm afraid I might fuck it up if I try to mod it...

as stupid as it sounds, I emailed a couple local electricians to see if they could do something small like this. :) even sent them the link to that SFA mod site.

a buddy of mine I worked with offered to pay for half the cost of my buttons/joystick order today, so I thought why not.

[Roufuss]

Just got my 360 today, and DoA 4... I'll get Xbox Live hooked up right soon (need to grab a hub) so I'll let you fighters know when I do, we can get together and play.

[Chacrana]

We'll have to play DOA 4 tomorrow if you have a chance. Apossum apparently is too scared to fight me so I need a new CAG to fight.

[RelentlessRolento]

Just got my 360 today, and DoA 4... I'll get Xbox Live hooked up right soon (need to grab a hub) so I'll let you fighters know when I do, we can get together and play.

Damn you! jk

i guess I'll be the most "scrubby" out of everyone on this thread when I get my hands on DoA4... I gotta wait at least another week or so before I'll have my 360.

[Chacrana]

Damn you! jk

i guess I'll be the most "scrubby" out of everyone on this thread when I get my hands on DoA4... I gotta wait at least another week or so before I'll have my 360.

I'll take the "scrubby" title... I'm terrible at DOA 4. 2D fighters are more my thing, but of course those aren't online. I like talking trash, but I can't exactly back it up... oh well, should be interesting having new competition.

[gigan54]

Damn you! jk

i guess I'll be the most "scrubby" out of everyone on this thread when I get my hands on DoA4... I gotta wait at least another week or so before I'll have my 360.


not true, as that honor goes to me. I've yet to even touch a DOA game.

I feel like such a newbie now.:cry:

[Apossum]

We'll have to play DOA 4 tomorrow if you have a chance. Apossum apparently is too scared to fight me so I need a new CAG to fight.


that's it *gloveslap* I demand satisfaction!

I am on at weird times and only stay on for a half hour at a time these days. stupid school and life getting in the way. like a broken record, hopefully I'll be around this week.


on a side note, not only do I recommend white PSPs, but I encourage you all to sell your black ones and pay the difference for a white one if you want to seriously play fighters on the psp. you won't get *perfect* tournament worthy results, but close to it.

[RelentlessRolento]

on a side note, not only do I recommend white PSPs, but I encourage you all to sell your black ones and pay the difference for a white one if you want to seriously play fighters on the psp. you won't get *perfect* tournament worthy results, but close to it.


I'm guessing you're talking about the d-pad... am I right?

[SilverPaw750]

Yeah but if you hate it to where it's unplayable, then why not try and mod it? If you fuck it up, you'll still have a nice collection piece.
I hate the buttons/joystick, but I still enjoy using the 'cade stick millions of times more than the xbox/ps2 pads.

[Strider Turbulence]

Holy shit! The d-pad on the white PSP is a huuuuge improvement! I can finally do special moves and combos in Darkstalkers! :shock: it's more like the PS2 pad, but still a bit awkward.




it isn't compatible, since the slide card is used to pull out the tray and the slim is a flip top.

you can do this-- open the slim ps2, put a piece of thick foam tape on the button right above the power button, then put a piece on the other button near the back-right hinge of the lid.

that may sound vague, but you'll see what I mean when you open it. those are two sensors which make sure the lid is closed before loading a disc. If you want to keep your warranty sticker, hold a blow dryer on it for a couple minutes (loosens the glue), then slowly peel it off and put it somewhere safe (if you stick it to something else, blow dry it again before you take it off!)

let me know if you have any questions about that...


Thanks. I was tempted to try this but knowing my luck, I'd probably end up frying the whole system. Still, it's defintely gonna be something I'll attempt if my other option doesn't turn out well.

Chacrana: Thanks for the info on the slide card and it's impact on the system, I found something similar that is compatible with a slim ps2. A cheap import from play-asia will have to confirm if everything can work properly.

[MarkMan]

Everyone that gets PSP and Tekken: Dark Resurrection, make sure you sign up at www.tekkenzaibatsu.com ! The ghost download library is currently going through beta testing and it is awesome stuff.

It should be open by the time the US version is out.

[RelentlessRolento]

Everyone that gets PSP and Tekken: Dark Resurrection, make sure you sign up at www.tekkenzaibatsu.com ! The ghost download library is currently going through beta testing and it is awesome stuff.

It should be open by the time the US version is out.

yeah I posted castel's development screenshots here as a reminder... I'm already set to go. All I need next is my actual ghost data.

One question... is the ghost CPU any good at registering mix-ups for combos? a regular of mine (and this will give away one of my crappy strategys) is with Kazuya: I do a few 1, 2, 4 and then throw out occasionally 1, 2, df+2

[Daddy]

1. who's your favorite street fighter 2 character and why?

2. what's your favorite strategy to use with said character?

3. what's your preference when it comes to controllers?

1.Gotta go with 3rd strike and Ryu/Akuma if I dont wanna lose ever...lol, for humilation i'll do E.Honda or Hugo depending on which SF it is

2.Jump in med kick,jab,strong punch fireball or jump in med kick,jab,jab, lightning special move dragon punch w/ ryu (combo takes over half to 3 quaters of your opponents energy)

3.Arcade...miss playing SF:3rd strike....best in the series. I really like SF:anniversery.

PS- I have 2 SF:anniversery arcade sticks for trade or sale if anyone is interested,,,never used,perfect condition boxes and all. Pm if interested

[Apossum]

I'm guessing you're talking about the d-pad... am I right?

yep :) the buttons seem raised as well.

[RelentlessRolento]

yep :) the buttons seem raised as well.


damn it! >_< I guess I'll eventually sell my model and pick up a white, even though I can't stand having a white version... (mainly to distinclty seperate my sony stuff from my nintendo stuff).

[Chacrana]

damn it! >_< I guess I'll eventually sell my model and pick up a white, even though I can't stand having a white version... (mainly to distinclty seperate my sony stuff from my nintendo stuff).

I'm a little annoyed because I just got my PSP like half a year ago... maybe a few more good fighting games would convince me to ditch this black one but right now... can't make myself pull the trigger.

[Apossum]

on the other hand, I don't see why they wouldn't fix the buttons on U.S. PSPs, so maybe impulse buying the white one wouldn't be the best idea.

[SilverPaw750]

1. who's your favorite street fighter 2 character and why?

2. what's your favorite strategy to use with said character?

3. what's your preference when it comes to controllers?

1. Sagat. He is just really awesome. First time I watched my cousins beat SF2:WW for the SNES and they got to sagat, I thought he was awesome. His appearance, the way he says 'Tiger', etc, are awesome. Though I really hate his alpha sprite, and his new voices suck too...He looked pretty awesome in SVC Chaos though.

2. Using his long limbs as pokes - lots of crouching MK/HK's, throw lots of tiger shots to put on the pressure, and when you can, the two hit standing HK. Use tiger uppercut as both an anti air and a close range punshing option (it's not SF2, but my GOD in SFA1 is tiger uppercut overpowered!), etc etc.

3. Arcade stick, followed by Xbox/Saturn/SF Controller D-Pad. Hate the PS2 D-pad - can't do Half Circles, Double QC's, let alone 360's on it.

[Roufuss]

Just got my KoF 94 Rebout today from Play Asia... don't know when I'll get around to rigging my PS2 to play it though, I'm probably hooking up Live tonight and I don't feel like messing around with the PS2 (yet).

[MarkMan]

yeah I posted castel's development screenshots here as a reminder... I'm already set to go. All I need next is my actual ghost data.

One question... is the ghost CPU any good at registering mix-ups for combos? a regular of mine (and this will give away one of my crappy strategys) is with Kazuya: I do a few 1, 2, 4 and then throw out occasionally 1, 2, df+2

The ghost registering mixups is kinda iffy, sometimes it will, but then sometimes it'll do a move that you NEVER used in your life. Pretty weird stuff.

Been helpin Castel with some of the testing this morning, we just added all the ranks etc. The Ghost Project is going to have a lot of cool stuff. I'm pretty sure it'll be open soon, we just need some region confirmation.

[gigan54]

originally posted at the youtube thread by jawman311. watching this video makes me want to up my karin game.

Street Fighter Alpha 3 Combos Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHZxQYpVhyc

[Apossum]

ground throws that leave them dizzy...craziness.

[Chacrana]

Jeese... I've never played as Karin before but I might try it now... come to think of it, I already forgot about Alpha Anthology. Nice surprise to remember that I have it.

[RelentlessRolento]

Well, I finally changed my avatar after not liking it for about a year :lol:

I kept the same character just so people would still somewhat recognize me... even though Bryan still isn't my main (though he use to be).

[RelentlessRolento]

that alpha video barely had Mad Gear/Final Fight love... awsome though.

I did like the Cody knife cancel though.

[Sarang01]

Anyone heard about anything like "Melty Blood" hitting the PSP?

[Chacrana]

I've heard nothing about Melty Blood apart from the PS2 game coming out August 10th.

[asianxcore]

Just got my KoF 94 Rebout today from Play Asia... don't know when I'll get around to rigging my PS2 to play it though, I'm probably hooking up Live tonight and I don't feel like messing around with the PS2 (yet).

Once you get it going, let us now how it is :)

Is that Play-Asia sale going until the end of August? I was thinking about getting Rebout for my PS2, since it was so cheap.

[apokalipze2]

http://gear.ign.com/articles/712/712352p1.html

Anyone ever feel the lag when playing fighting games in hd? My friends, who had never played on hdtv, couldn't frc that properly on my hd set this past weekend. They went to anolog and busted out all their frcs without a hitch. They claim that it was my tv that lags. After reading this article I don't think I'll ever play on hd again

[RelentlessRolento]

http://gear.ign.com/articles/712/712352p1.html

Anyone ever feel the lag when playing fighting games in hd? My friends, who had never played on hdtv, couldn't frc that properly on my hd set this past weekend. They went to anolog and busted out all their frcs without a hitch. They claim that it was my tv that lags. After reading this article I don't think I'll ever play on hd again


wow... that sucks ass. I'm sure down the line HD will get this fixed, but at the state HD is right now, it might not be safe :(

[Apossum]

Anyone heard about anything like "Melty Blood" hitting the PSP?

no, but I did think of how could that would be the other day ;)

[62t]

Once you get it going, let us now how it is :)

Is that Play-Asia sale going until the end of August? I was thinking about getting Rebout for my PS2, since it was so cheap.
i think it is oos

[Daddy]

originally posted at the youtube thread by jawman311. watching this video makes me want to up my karin game.


Thats why no one wanted to play that version of street fighter the cheapness was insane....stick with sf2 or 3rd strike

[SilverPaw750]

Thats why no one wanted to play that version of street fighter the cheapness was insane....stick with sf2 or 3rd strike
If MvC2 can get tournament play....

[asianxcore]

i think it is oos

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-40-77-7-49-en-15-king%2Bof%2Bfighters-70-ckd.html

looks like it's back to regular price.

[RelentlessRolento]

Thats why no one wanted to play that version of street fighter the cheapness was insane....stick with sf2 or 3rd strike


I still can't beleive that people think SFIII is the most balanced 2d fighter out there... oh well, back to my Waku Waku 7...

[GuilewasNK]

Well, I finally changed my avatar after not liking it for about a year :lol:

I kept the same character just so people would still somewhat recognize me... even though Bryan still isn't my main (though he use to be).

Cool upgrade. :)

I want to change mine, but I haven't founf anything yet. I would try my hand at drawing one but my art skills aren't that great.

[MarkMan]

Ghost Library will be active tonight on TZ. :)

COMIC CON TOMORROW!

[Chacrana]

Didn't realize Comic Con was so soon... hope some good anime licenses get announced. Or at least that Sony says something about Blood+ DVDs.

[RelentlessRolento]

Cool upgrade. :)

I want to change mine, but I haven't founf anything yet. I would try my hand at drawing one but my art skills aren't that great.


just spend a few hours googling the hell out of guile... you'll come across somethign eventually :)

[Chacrana]

Maybe something can be done with this http://www.coke-babies.com/writing/streetfighter/animation01.gif

[GuilewasNK]

just spend a few hours googling the hell out of guile... you'll come across somethign eventually :)

I have but ther art is stuff I already have.

[RelentlessRolento]

I have but ther art is stuff I already have.

try chacrana's suggestion. You can't go wrong with Van Danm :lol:

[kainzero]

Thats why no one wanted to play that version of street fighter the cheapness was insane....stick with sf2 or 3rd strike
nah, no one played alpha 3 because as major tournaments began moving to console, there was too much fighting over which version of a3 to use.

as for that video, i hate it because i can't do crouch cancels that aren't ryu's and they make karin's VC look so easy =P i think i finally got it... but it's still at 25% now.

[Darkside Hazuki]

You can't go wrong with Van Danm :lol:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1104/guilepf0.gif

Indeed!

[GuilewasNK]

Good Lord! :lol:

[HumanSnatcher]

I hope I'm not asking in the wrong spot, but what are some online fighting games for the PS2? The only one I know of is MK:Deception. I ask because my XBL account has run out...

[Chacrana]

I don't think there are any... I dunno about the MK series because I avoid that like the plague, but Tekken, Soul Calibur, and all the 2D fighters in the US haven't had an online mode.

[Rodimus]

Hazuki - I went to that Pimp-Production a while ago. There's some pretty good gifs in there. Do you work on the site?

[HumanSnatcher]

I don't think there are any... I dunno about the MK series because I avoid that like the plague, but Tekken, Soul Calibur, and all the 2D fighters in the US haven't had an online mode.

Thats what I kinda figured. I totally forgot about the list of online games thats on wikipedia. You know, that what would be a good thing to put on the CAGwiki. A list of online games for each system.

To be honest, I have thought about getting Deception for my PS2, and use my Codebreaker to just unlock the other fighters. I've all ready done so on my xbox, no way am I doing it all over again on another system. It almost seems like an untapped market on PS2 for online fighting games. Then again it seems the only games people play online with the PS2 are sports games.

[RelentlessRolento]

I have yet to try the online stuff in the new MKs, but plan to since I finally have broadband once Armageddon comes out. Yes the series is not like it use to be or as deep as it was, but it's still a very enjoyable game. It's one of those games that are more enjoyable if you realize it's not trying to be the best fighter, but just enjoyable. Good pastime though.

I am, though, looking forward to UMK3 on Xbox Live when it's out... I will get my ass handed to me so badly on it, but I won't care just because I am playing UMK3 online :) (still need a 360, but by then I will have one for sure).

[RelentlessRolento]

new God-Hand info:

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3152276

[asianxcore]

I decided to scrap my SF Anniversary stick mod idea, and go with a custom stick.

Two of my friends have offered to partially pay for the cost (for my birthday), so I am in the talks with a stick maker on artwork, joystick, buttons and so on.

I am very excited. :)

Also I never knew you could do those kind of things in SFA 3. Insane.

[SilverPaw750]

I decided to scrap my SF Anniversary stick mod idea, and go with a custom stick.

Two of my friends have offered to partially pay for the cost (for my birthday), so I am in the talks with a stick maker on artwork, joystick, buttons and so on.

I am very excited. :)

Also I never knew you could do those kind of things in SFA 3. Insane.

I would go custom, but I really need the multi console compatability - and I haven't been able to find a PS2 -> Xbox converter with a decent reputation.

[asianxcore]

I would go custom, but I really need the multi console compatability - and I haven't been able to find a PS2 -> Xbox converter with a decent reputation.

The majority of the fighting games I play are on PS2 or Dreamcast. Since I'm fine with playing KOF games on the regular PS2 pad, I thought I'd get something for Capcom fighting games.

Good luck on your arcade stick hunt! :)

[MarkMan]

Played a ton more of T: DR on Network play with 2 UMDs tonight again.

It was much better this time around, less laggier.

There were sometimes where it would slow down.

I noticed since we were playing by my CPU the first time it was really slow, and so laggy.

But when we went outside to my backyard it was much better. It should be decent to play outside or when you're out with a friend.


---

Also everyone, the TZ ghost library is open! Check it out here:

http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/ghostlist.php

[Apossum]

one more week :drool:

[Roufuss]

Apossum, add me to Live, and anyone else, so we can play some DoA 4 (or anything else). I already got my ass whooped by Chacrana and 2Fast :(

[Chacrana]

Yeah, Roufuss had a 10 game losing streak. Which was interesting because I've never seen such a thing happen =P

Anyway, is anybody buying the Garou Densetsu Archives (the Fatal Fury Collection?) I'm sorta on the fence about it because I haven't really played much of the original FF games... when the Real Bout collection comes out though, I'm buying that immediately.

[Apossum]

Yeah, Roufuss had a 10 game losing streak. Which was interesting because I've never seen such a thing happen =P




I've seen it happen...........TO YOU :-P j.k.

roufuss-- i'll add ya. hopefully I'll be on sometime soon.

[Darkside Hazuki]

Hazuki - I went to that Pimp-Production a while ago. There's some pretty good gifs in there. Do you work on the site?

Nope. I just enjoy their work. Like this...

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3016/taburgertimezg1.gif

[RelentlessRolento]

Well, problem solved for all those who don't like the d-pad on the 360:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiP0WLx7V7Q&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fxbox360%2Eqj%2Enet%2F

[Rodimus]

Nope. I just enjoy their work. Like this...

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3016/taburgertimezg1.gif

Awsome!!! That's some crappy Mortal Kombat rip-off for the 3DO right?

[RelentlessRolento]

Awsome!!! That's some crappy Mortal Kombat rip-off for the 3DO right?


I saw the chicken fatality and car fatality... sad hilarity :)

[Apossum]

Nope. I just enjoy their work. Like this...

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3016/taburgertimezg1.gif

Tattoo assassins? :lol:


well, it looks like the left speaker on my psp has been busted and there are drop marks on it that I never noticed. yay, I love talking with sellers on ebay about refunds (read: them not responding until you threaten a chargeback) :roll:

[RelentlessRolento]

Tattoo assassins? :lol:


well, it looks like the left speaker on my psp has been busted and there are drop marks on it that I never noticed. yay, I love talking with sellers on ebay about refunds (read: them not responding until you threaten a chargeback) :roll:


Yeah, I've made it a point for myself to never buy used portables since they always have a higher chance of being nerfed than a home console. GL on the discussion and if you need a second voice, feel free to give me a hoot for backup.

[Chacrana]

Tattoo assassins? :lol:


well, it looks like the left speaker on my psp has been busted and there are drop marks on it that I never noticed. yay, I love talking with sellers on ebay about refunds (read: them not responding until you threaten a chargeback) :roll:

Good luck with that, Possum. I hate Ebay.

[Apossum]

Yeah, I've made it a point for myself to never buy used portables since they always have a higher chance of being nerfed than a home console. GL on the discussion and if you need a second voice, feel free to give me a hoot for backup.


definitely learned my lesson. just noticed this guy had bought another white psp on the same day mine went up. :bomb:

[RelentlessRolento]

well, I may be getting a review copy of the Super DBZ game comming out even thouh I have no interest in DBZ and very basic knowlage of the series... I'll probably have to review it from the "I am new to DBZ" angle... hopefully I wont come off as too much of a DB idiot, but I probably will with good intention :)

[Chacrana]

well, I may be getting a review copy of the Super DBZ game comming out even thouh I have no interest in DBZ and very basic knowlage of the series... I'll probably have to review it from the "I am new to DBZ" angle... hopefully I wont come off as too much of a DB idiot, but I probably will with good intention :)

That's actually a lot more useful... I'm far less interested in which characters are included and who's faithful to their role in the show/manga than I am in knowing how this ranks as a fighting game. This seems like the first legitimate attempt at a fighting game for DBZ so I'm pretty optimistic and I'm really only concerned with gameplay... which I think is how a lot of people on the fence about this game are.

[RelentlessRolento]

That's actually a lot more useful... I'm far less interested in which characters are included and who's faithful to their role in the show/manga than I am in knowing how this ranks as a fighting game. This seems like the first legitimate attempt at a fighting game for DBZ so I'm pretty optimistic and I'm really only concerned with gameplay... which I think is how a lot of people on the fence about this game are.


I'll keep that in mind if I do pick up and review this game.

EDIT: Decided to review game after taking chacrana's advice... good point...

also, great news for every PSP owner! SFA3Max has dropped to $20 :)

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101181&page=3

[DomLando]

Roufuss add me I'm up for some DOA

[Apossum]

well, I may be getting a review copy of the Super DBZ game comming out even thouh I have no interest in DBZ and very basic knowlage of the series... I'll probably have to review it from the "I am new to DBZ" angle... hopefully I wont come off as too much of a DB idiot, but I probably will with good intention :)


That's awesome...no DBZ bias! :)

"awww, the dude with the hair who screams and throws fireballs isn't in it and it's inconsistent with episode 407 at 15:32:05 where the green guy clearly states that he doesn't like tacos, yet in his ending, he is CLEARLY eating a taco. 3/10"

i'm interested in it simply because its made by the Street Fighter guy (whose name I should know but forgot.)

[RelentlessRolento]

i'm interested in it simply because its made by the Street Fighter guy (whose name I should know but forgot.)

Yeah, that's the main reason why I am at all interested. My friend forced me to play all the other DBZ games, and I never liked any of them alot really. This one looks like it may be deep enough to enjoy, but I guess we'll see.

[Chacrana]

That's awesome...no DBZ bias! :)

"awww, the dude with the hair who screams and throws fireballs isn't in it and it's inconsistent with episode 407 at 15:32:05 where the green guy clearly states that he doesn't like tacos, yet in his ending, he is CLEARLY eating a taco. 3/10"

i'm interested in it simply because its made by the Street Fighter guy (whose name I should know but forgot.)

Way to be an ignorant ass. :roll:

There's only 291 episodes, nub. :lol:

[MarkMan]

Preview night for Comic-Con was awesome.

Capcom has the best gaming related booth in my opinion. They have tons of retro stuff for sale it's amazing! Bunch of Japanese Rock Man and Street Fighter stuff on display. It's going to be a long weekend.

To those of you that PM'd me about getting stuff, I haven't had a chance yet. I'll keep you all updated.

[Chacrana]

I didn't know they sold cool stuff at Comic Con (though I suppose it should've been assumed.) Hmm... any other stuff of note they'll have for sale there?

[MarkMan]

There's a bunch of stuff from Square Enix and Kotobukiya, Final Fantasy stuff etc. Capcom has the best stuff for sale like I've mentioned.

I ended up doing small purchases today, got 2 decks of Tekken 5: Epic Battles cards and a box of boosters. The real shoppin' starts tomorrow. :)

[ratzombie]

I hate you MarkMan, you're making me (and probably a lot others) jealous as hell. :D

[MarkMan]

All in a days' work.

[Chacrana]

They wouldn't happen to have.... PS2 arcade style joysticks with relatively high levels of quality, would they?

[MarkMan]

Nope, but Hori is sponsoring the tournament I'm throwing and we'll have those as prizes. :)

[Chacrana]

Nope, but Hori is sponsoring the tournament I'm throwing and we'll have those as prizes. :)

You lucky bastard. ;)

Guess that's what I get for avoiding conventions

[Apossum]

Way to be an ignorant ass. :roll:

There's only 291 episodes, nub. :lol:


ignorance is bliss! :-P

[asianxcore]

I envy all of you who get to go to Comic Con. damn you MarkMan

My custom joystick art was just finished today. I'm really excited. :)

Oh and IGN's review of Super Dragon Ball Z is up.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/719/719641p1.html

[Chacrana]

Nuby's got a Street Fighter Anniversary stick listed on their site now that uses Happ parts... would that be worth looking into for my first stick?

[Rodimus]

I was reading on another forum on a diffrent site, some fans of the DBZ Budokai series say Super DBZ can be difficult to play for people not used to the engine. I guess some DBZ fans have trouble doing a QCF + P instead of just Forward + P.

I read the IGN review and it said the game is based on the Manga not the Anime. Aren't they pretty much the same thing, with the same basic story. I know there might be extra stories for the anime (like Naruto) but I don't understand how it makes any difference?

Remember years ago when Toonami first started showing it (along with Tenchi and Sailor Moon) and blew up big? I knew a couple people that had to get home at like 5 PM everyday just watch DBZ. Since I knew the story years ahead of time I ruined it for em' by by blurting out whats gonna happen. For example: "Freeza doesn't die, he comes back as a half/cyborg but gets killed by Trunks who is Vegeta and Bulma's son from the future." or "Goku never dies, even when he's dead, he's still alive, and that's stupid." That would piss em' off.

Remember to keep your kids away from DBZ. Just say "NO" to DBZ!!!

[Apossum]

the show just had a funny name to me and my fellow 13 year old buddies... "Dragon balls...lol"

[asianxcore]

Nuby's got a Street Fighter Anniversary stick listed on their site now that uses Happ parts... would that be worth looking into for my first stick?

Do you know how much they charge for shipping? $89.99 + shipping might equal the cost of getting a stick builder to make you your own custom arcade stick.

[HumanSnatcher]

Wasn't the original versions of DBZ supposedly quite violent, but Toonami drasticly edited?

[Chacrana]

Wasn't the original versions of DBZ supposedly quite violent, but Toonami drasticly edited?


There was some blood but it wasn't really that violent. Nothing on the level of Berserk or Gantz or Elfen Lied.

[Chacrana]

Do you know how much they charge for shipping? $89.99 + shipping might equal the cost of getting a stick builder to make you your own custom arcade stick.

There's one that's up on Amazon (though I'm not sure if it's the Happ version or the regular version) and the shipping on that is about $20... so at $110 would there be any alternatives I should consider?

[Supreme]

Anyone mind givin me their opinion on the Bushido Blade games? Should I pick up 1, 2, or both?

[Apossum]

Anyone mind givin me their opinion on the Bushido Blade games? Should I pick up 1, 2, or both?

I liked number 1 a lot-- the stages were huge and battles took a long time, if you played with someone who knew how to parry and dodge and all that. I couldn't get into Bushido Blade 2, the stages just weren't as good and they simplified it by taking out some key moves, stances, and injuries, iirc.

[Rodimus]

Anyone mind givin me their opinion on the Bushido Blade games? Should I pick up 1, 2, or both?

I just got a Bushido Blade 2 in a trade. I'd pick up the second one. More weapons, characters and modes. Have you ever played them before? It's made to be realistic (except they jump too damn high) so no life bars, if you hit a vital area like the head or heart, they're dead. You should find it pretty cheap also.

[Supreme]

nah, i havent played them at all, but they look like the type of games ive been lookin for (realistic samurai sword fighting type of game). and yeah, im wathcin a couple of them on ebay, nothin too expensive. Bushido Blade 2 seems to be goin for more though.

[Chacrana]

Tekken: Dark Ressurection reviewed at IGN.

Gave it a 4.7.

http://psp.ign.com/articles/719/719836p1.html

[Chacrana]

Oh, and Super Dragon Ball Z got reviewed as well and it got a 7.4. Not bad, but I was hoping it'd score a little better (strange that this would get rated below the various Budokai games despite those sucking.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/719/719641p1.html

Well, guess I'll have to wait for other sources' reviews.

[Rodimus]

asainxcore posted the link for the IGN review of Super DBZ above. I was also expecting higher reviews over Budokai, since now it's a real fighter, and not just cineimatics with button mashing.

[Apossum]

Tekken: Dark Ressurection reviewed at IGN.

Gave it a 4.7.

http://psp.ign.com/articles/719/719836p1.html


I refuse to click the link. *insert generic rant about IGN* Eveyone knows Devil Within mode is what makes Tekken "Tekken" anyway.

okay, I'll be on DoA 4 tonight. I have to practice offline for a while first.

[Chacrana]

I refuse to click the link. *insert generic rant about IGN* Eveyone knows Devil Within mode is what makes Tekken "Tekken" anyway.

okay, I'll be on DoA 4 tonight. I have to practice offline for a while first.

I'll go on tonight then too... but I won't practice offline... hell no. I'll bring my KOF XI fighting style and Dream Cancels to DOA 4 and watch as I get crushed.

Oh... and they didn't give it a 4.7. They gave it a 9.2. I love trickery. If anyone's offended by it, I guess I can change the post to reflect the actual score...

[GuilewasNK]

Oh... and they didn't give it a 4.7. They gave it a 9.2. I love trickery. If anyone's offended by it, I guess I can change the post to reflect the actual score...

I decided to see the article before I said anything. No way Namco would drop the ball that much on one of their two flagship titles. :lol:

[Chacrana]

I decided to see the article before I said anything. No way Namco would drop the ball that much on one of their two flagship titles. :lol:


Good. The intent was to have people actually read the review before reacting... sometimes I'm not sure if people actually do that anymore.

[kainzero]

asainxcore posted the link for the IGN review of Super DBZ above. I was also expecting higher reviews over Budokai, since now it's a real fighter, and not just cineimatics with button mashing.

well, how many game review sites and magazines do you trust enough to know how to play fighters?

for me? zero.

=P

[Rodimus]

well, how many game review sites and magazines do you trust enough to know how to play fighters?

for me? zero.

=P

I know a couple, but they're devoted just to fighting games.

[Apossum]

I was kidding about not clicking the link...I hope you guys knew that :oops:

[Roufuss]

I refuse to click the link. *insert generic rant about IGN* Eveyone knows Devil Within mode is what makes Tekken "Tekken" anyway.

okay, I'll be on DoA 4 tonight. I have to practice offline for a while first.

Shoot me a request tonight sometime, I won't be on for a couple of hours though.

[Chacrana]

Shoot me a request tonight sometime, I won't be on for a couple of hours though.

Bah... we're playing now... I'll try and get on later though.

[RelentlessRolento]

hmm... I might have a 360 this monday so that looks good.. I'll be getting DOA4 most likely as well... If I'm lucky, I'll have one on saturday.

As for the IGN review: it was a given that it'd be 9.0... Tekken 5 scored very well on ign, and this is basicly an improved version of Tekken 5 downscaled, so no surprise.

also, not technicly a fighter but close to a brawler, check out this:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/clips-castle-crashers-from-the-makers-of-alien-hominid-188725.php

[Chacrana]

Castle Crusher looks okay... I fucking hate the designs of everything though and it doesn't look cool -- it looks like an ameteurish Flash game.

On a side note, I played some DOA 4 today (still really struggling to play it because I'm used to 2D fighting) and yeah... I'm doing alright. I played a few matches with 'Possum and I think I have a few more wins now. Roufuss was not difficult to win against, but I have a bit of an unfair advantage I suppose. Anyway, once you get a 360, Rolento, we can have somewhat ghetto CAG DOA tournaments which would be interesting.

[RelentlessRolento]

Castle Crusher looks okay... I fucking hate the designs of everything though and it doesn't look cool -- it looks like an ameteurish Flash game.




same thing here, but any news of a brawler to me will perk me up, even though it's usually disapointing... still waiting for Final Fight Streetwise to drop in price jus tso I can get back into Final Fight and get nausiated.

oh and more yakuza stuff... still is going from gold to shit pretty quickly: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/720/720044p1.html

[62t]

am I the only one playing Battle Stadium D.O.N? I will give impression when I have time.

[RelentlessRolento]

God must love horrible dialoge :lol:

http://www.gamebrink.com/playstation-2/1413-Metal_Slug_3D-video-7.html

it's not a fighter, but SNK... here's the import review:

http://www.gamebrink.com/playstation-2/1413-Metal_Slug_3D-reviews.html

[asianxcore]

There's one that's up on Amazon (though I'm not sure if it's the Happ version or the regular version) and the shipping on that is about $20... so at $110 would there be any alternatives I should consider?

The only reason why I mentioned getting a custom stick was because of the price. At the price you would be paying for the SFA stick mod + shipping you have a bunch of alternatives. I would say the only reason to get the SFA stick was if you love the artwork (it's great) or if you needed that PS2/Xbox functionality. Maybe someone can elaborate on these sticks and help Chacrana out? :)

Hori Real Arcade Pro Stick:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-77-2-49-en-15-arcade%2Bstick-70-5w3.html

Hori Real Arcade Pro Stick 2:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-77-7-49-en-15-arcade%2Bstick-70-10up.html

Tekken 5 Bundle Stick:
http://www.dignews.com/admin/screenshoot/tekken_5_arcade_stick.jpg

Also if I am not mistaken, most if not all custom stick builders use quality parts such as Happ or Sanwa. I'm sure you can check the http://shoryuken.com/ forums for either stick builders or already made custom sticks for sale.

[Chacrana]

While I'm getting a better idea of what I need to look for in a stick I still feel somewhat clueless and a little bit like an idiot. Anyway, my (hopefully last) question is: If I'm playing a ton of Guilty Gear and sNK fighters, would it be beneficial to have the buttons that are placed at an angle (a la the Hori stick) or would I be fine with the SF stick where the buttons are all in a straight line?

[Apossum]

GGs as always Chacrana, except for the matches I lost of course. Roufuss-- had to bounce, but I'll be on more this weekend.

hopefully I'll figure out why my connection suddenly sucks though. i've turned off windows firewall, and there's an "xbox" port setting on my router that I have switched on. my wireless stuff hasn't moved a bit either.

[Roufuss]

GGs as always Chacrana, except for the matches I lost of course. Roufuss-- had to bounce, but I'll be on more this weekend.

hopefully I'll figure out why my connection suddenly sucks though. i've turned off windows firewall, and there's an "xbox" port setting on my router that I have switched on. my wireless stuff hasn't moved a bit either.

No, my connection went shitty too.. Chacrana and I were playing games at 5 FPS. He still beat my ass, though... everytime I get on to practice I just play Frogger and Uno :(

I don't think it's your router though... it cleared up after 10 minutes or so. I got my mic working too!!

Thanks for the friend add too, I knew I missed someone from CAG. I've been thinking about getting a DoA 4 stick...

[Roufuss]

Roufuss was not difficult to win against, but I have a bit of an unfair advantage I suppose. .

I hate you.

[kainzero]

While I'm getting a better idea of what I need to look for in a stick I still feel somewhat clueless and a little bit like an idiot. Anyway, my (hopefully last) question is: If I'm playing a ton of Guilty Gear and sNK fighters, would it be beneficial to have the buttons that are placed at an angle (a la the Hori stick) or would I be fine with the SF stick where the buttons are all in a straight line?

Buttons come down to preference. If you're used to ABCD being next to each other, the angle would definitely help seeing as it's hard to stretch your fingers across the straight line... but the newer games that use five buttons, it shouldn't matter if you use a setup like

BCD
AE

The major issue between Hori and the SF stick is the actual stick itself... IMO, American sticks tend to be a lot tighter than Japanese sticks... which I think is worse for games like GG which require constant airdashes using double taps.

[Apossum]

No, my connection went shitty too.. Chacrana and I were playing games at 5 FPS. He still beat my ass, though... everytime I get on to practice I just play Frogger and Uno :(

I don't think it's your router though... it cleared up after 10 minutes or so. I got my mic working too!!

Thanks for the friend add too, I knew I missed someone from CAG. I've been thinking about getting a DoA 4 stick...


it's something on my end, because I hardly get matches with 3 green bars when I search for games nowadays. before, Chacrana and I used to play with almost no lag since we live about 2 hours away from each other.

the weird thing was that our last few matches went into "turbo, anti-lag mode" and we were playing faster than the game goes offline :lol:

[Chacrana]

Buttons come down to preference. If you're used to ABCD being next to each other, the angle would definitely help seeing as it's hard to stretch your fingers across the straight line... but the newer games that use five buttons, it shouldn't matter if you use a setup like

BCD
AE

The major issue between Hori and the SF stick is the actual stick itself... IMO, American sticks tend to be a lot tighter than Japanese sticks... which I think is worse for games like GG which require constant airdashes using double taps.

Would the same thing apply to Happ's parts? The new SF stick has all Happ stuff, but if it's going to be a bit of a detriment to playing GG, I'll have to reconsider.

[apokalipze2]

Just as long you don't use p360 you should be fine in gg.

[kainzero]

Would the same thing apply to Happ's parts? The new SF stick has all Happ stuff, but if it's going to be a bit of a detriment to playing GG, I'll have to reconsider.

I wouldn't necessarily call it a detriment...

However, when I did go to a GGXX slash meet in SD, almost everyone had HRAPs or custom sticks with Sanwas. there was a really good player playing on a MAS (uses a happ-stick) though. I don't know if you know Sextaro from 3S vids but that was him playing on the MAS... but he also played Potemkin, and I don't think he moves very much =P When he played T5, he switched to the T5 stick though.

[Chacrana]

Hmm... right now it's between the Happ SF Stick, the HRAP, and the T5 stick (I saw one at my Gamestop earlier this morning for $70.

From what I can tell, the advantage that the SF stick would have is that scrubs could use it and not break it while the Hori sticks are more accurate... so it really makes the Japanese options seem a lot more enticing. Is there a major difference between the Tekken 5 stick and the HRAP and which one do ya'll suggest out of those two?

Edit: Actually, would it be wise to just get a Tekken stick for now since it's cheapest and still very functional rather than go all out and get the HRAP? I was thinking that it might not be a bad idea to get the Tekken stick now and then get a custom stick down the road when I get better at using a joystick.

[apokalipze2]

We'll I'm not kain zero but the main difference between the tekken stick and the hrap is the actual stick. Hrap uses sanwa and tekken I dunno. I personally have both and I'll say that the tekken stick feels hella loose compared to the hrap. But if your looking to save the tekken stick is fine imo. I like playing 3s on it

[kainzero]

Hmm... right now it's between the Happ SF Stick, the HRAP, and the T5 stick (I saw one at my Gamestop earlier this morning for $70.

From what I can tell, the advantage that the SF stick would have is that scrubs could use it and not break it while the Hori sticks are more accurate... so it really makes the Japanese options seem a lot more enticing. Is there a major difference between the Tekken 5 stick and the HRAP and which one do ya'll suggest out of those two?

Edit: Actually, would it be wise to just get a Tekken stick for now since it's cheapest and still very functional rather than go all out and get the HRAP? I was thinking that it might not be a bad idea to get the Tekken stick now and then get a custom stick down the road when I get better at using a joystick.
apok is right; the HRAP uses a Sanwa stick, whereas the T5 stick is a Hori stick.

The JPN sticks aren't necessarily more accurate... it's just more loose, which makes it easier to do double taps and such. While a lot of GG Slash players use HRAPs, it seems like a lot of Marvel players use MAS or other Happ-sticks, although to be fair you don't do a lot of double taps to dash.

From my experience, the HRAP's Sanwa joystick feels much lighter than the T5's Hori stick. The HRAP is also easily modifiable if you want to swap out buttons and sticks... like if something breaks. The T5 stick however, really has cost going for it, and personally I wouldn't pick the HRAP for $50 more unless I was a huge gaming enthusiast... which I am =P

The SF stick, modded with Happ is also good too, and might even be preferable for slower paced games. Chun's SA2 hit confirm, I think, would be easier on the SF stick because I tend to do the motions too fast on the HRAP because of the smaller gate...

I dunno, they're all good, the HRAPs and Happ counterparts are better than the T5 stick and more versatile, but the T5 stick is still good... it's kinda like buying basketball shoes. The best basketball shoes won't make you a lot better than the other guy, but it might be more comfortable and might make you play just a tad better.
But crappy basketball shoes aren't very good for anyone =P

[Chacrana]

Wow... that's a lotta info and a surprisingly good analogy. I think I'm going to go ahead and get the Tekken stick for now. I'm just trying to learn how to use a stick efficiently and when I get good with it, I'll move up to a custom stick or a HRAP. Considering that the Tekken stick is quite a bit cheaper, it seems like the best option at this point and I won't have to wait for shipping either which is nice. I decided against the Happ stick because I know that I'm going to want the Japanese style one at one point because I like what that style has to offer... so anyway, thanks to everyone who had input on this (lotta well informed people on here) and unless there's anything I'm really missing, I'll be getting the stick tomorrow morning (and maybe the DOA 4 one for the 360 if it's as cheap as some people have found it to be at Gamestop.)

Edit: Oh, forgot I'm a cheapass... any clearances or wicked deals I should know about?

[asianxcore]

Good luck Chacrana :) I hope you find an arcade stick that works out for you.

The custom stick that I'm currently having built is actually my first arcade stick since the SNES days. I was looking at all the different joysticks you could order, either here in the states or outside. Most if not all of the sticks I read up on, mentioned that it would be good to mod them with better parts to improve them. I decided then it would be worth it to just get a custom stick, since I don't know anything about modding. Also I thought the cost might equal to the same as getting one made for me.

http://www.draculax.de/gfx/superfamicom/capcom_fighter_power_stick1.jpg
That is the last arcade stick I bought :) I remember when SF first came out for SNES, I just had to have that joystick.

[Chacrana]

Good luck Chacrana :) I hope you find an arcade stick that works out for you.

The custom stick that I'm currently having built is actually my first arcade stick since the SNES days. I was looking at all the different joysticks you could order, either here in the states or outside. Most if not all of the sticks I read up on, mentioned that it would be good to mod them with better parts to improve them. I decided then it would be worth it to just get a custom stick, since I don't know anything about modding. Also I thought the cost might equal to the same as getting one made for me.

http://www.draculax.de/gfx/superfamicom/capcom_fighter_power_stick1.jpg
That is the last arcade stick I bought :) I remember when SF first came out for SNES, I just had to have that joystick.

So is there an image you're plastering on the front of your stick? That's always the most interesting part.

[Jimbo Slice]

Wow... that's a lotta info and a surprisingly good analogy. I think I'm going to go ahead and get the Tekken stick for now. I'm just trying to learn how to use a stick efficiently and when I get good with it, I'll move up to a custom stick or a HRAP. Considering that the Tekken stick is quite a bit cheaper, it seems like the best option at this point and I won't have to wait for shipping either which is nice. I decided against the Happ stick because I know that I'm going to want the Japanese style one at one point because I like what that style has to offer... so anyway, thanks to everyone who had input on this (lotta well informed people on here) and unless there's anything I'm really missing, I'll be getting the stick tomorrow morning (and maybe the DOA 4 one for the 360 if it's as cheap as some people have found it to be at Gamestop.)

Edit: Oh, forgot I'm a cheapass... any clearances or wicked deals I should know about?

The DOA4 stick is cheap as Gamestop? How cheap? I think my G-stop still has 1...

[Chacrana]

Well I've been hearing $40 and one guy said $20 but he thought it could've been a wierd glitch. If it's $40, I'm going to think about getting one myself... at $20 I'll buy however many the store has.

[asianxcore]

So is there an image you're plastering on the front of your stick? That's always the most interesting part.

Yup. The finished artwork was just sent to me a day or so ago.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/koi_stick/frank_stick.jpg

It's going to have a blue happ joystick and white happ buttons. All of that will be housed in a white box, with the start/select buttons mounted on the side.

Also does anyone know if there a difference between SF: 3rd Strike on PS2 and Dreamcast? Is one better than the other?

[FriskyTanuki]

Castle Crusher looks okay... I fucking hate the designs of everything though and it doesn't look cool -- it looks like an ameteurish Flash game.
So you've never played Alien Hominid? ;)


I was reading on another forum on a diffrent site, some fans of the DBZ Budokai series say Super DBZ can be difficult to play for people not used to the engine. I guess some DBZ fans have trouble doing a QCF + P instead of just Forward + P.

I read the IGN review and it said the game is based on the Manga not the Anime. Aren't they pretty much the same thing, with the same basic story. I know there might be extra stories for the anime (like Naruto) but I don't understand how it makes any difference?

Remember years ago when Toonami first started showing it (along with Tenchi and Sailor Moon) and blew up big? I knew a couple people that had to get home at like 5 PM everyday just watch DBZ. Since I knew the story years ahead of time I ruined it for em' by by blurting out whats gonna happen. For example: "Freeza doesn't die, he comes back as a half/cyborg but gets killed by Trunks who is Vegeta and Bulma's son from the future." or "Goku never dies, even when he's dead, he's still alive, and that's stupid." That would piss em' off.

Remember to keep your kids away from DBZ. Just say "NO" to DBZ!!!

I think the manga references are due to the graphical look being more related to the manga than the show (sound effects literally appearing on screen and the look of the characters). It's pretty much that the game doesn't do anything outstanding in any department, but is overall a solid game for those not looking for BT2-level graphics or features. I might pick it up depending on sales since I know plenty of people that like the Budokai series, but want more to appeal to them as hardcore fighting fans. It'll take me some time to get used to the gameplay shift since I haven't played much 2D stuff since Street Fighter 2 on the SNES over 10 years ago. :lol:

[Rodimus]

So you've never played Alien Hominid? ;)


I think the manga references are due to the graphical look being more related to the manga than the show (sound effects literally appearing on screen and the look of the characters). It's pretty much that the game doesn't do anything outstanding in any department, but is overall a solid game for those not looking for BT2-level graphics or features. I might pick it up depending on sales since I know plenty of people that like the Budokai series, but want more to appeal to them as hardcore fighting fans. It'll take me some time to get used to the gameplay shift since I haven't played much 2D stuff since Street Fighter 2 on the SNES over 10 years ago. :lol:

Thanks, I guess that makes some sense. If they do the comic style box framing then that'll also make more sense. Like JoJo's Bizzare Adventure and Jump Superstars. I did take a peek in the strategy guide for Super DBZ. I was expecting more moves for each character, but that really doesn't mean anything about how the game plays.

[62t]

Yup. The finished artwork was just sent to me a day or so ago.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/koi_stick/frank_stick.jpg

It's going to have a blue happ joystick and white happ buttons. All of that will be housed in a white box, with the start/select buttons mounted on the side.

Also does anyone know if there a difference between SF: 3rd Strike on PS2 and Dreamcast? Is one better than the other?

the dreamcast version has some bugs and slowdowns. The Ps2 version is more arcade prefect.

[kainzero]

Wow... that's a lotta info and a surprisingly good analogy. I think I'm going to go ahead and get the Tekken stick for now. I'm just trying to learn how to use a stick efficiently and when I get good with it, I'll move up to a custom stick or a HRAP. Considering that the Tekken stick is quite a bit cheaper, it seems like the best option at this point and I won't have to wait for shipping either which is nice. I decided against the Happ stick because I know that I'm going to want the Japanese style one at one point because I like what that style has to offer... so anyway, thanks to everyone who had input on this (lotta well informed people on here) and unless there's anything I'm really missing, I'll be getting the stick tomorrow morning (and maybe the DOA 4 one for the 360 if it's as cheap as some people have found it to be at Gamestop.)

Edit: Oh, forgot I'm a cheapass... any clearances or wicked deals I should know about?
outpost.com has the t5 package w/ stick for $50 before shipping, since you guys don't have fry's and can't pick it up b&m.

but since it's kinda heavy, i don't know if it'll be cheaper than that GS deal.

[Chacrana]

outpost.com has the t5 package w/ stick for $50 before shipping, since you guys don't have fry's and can't pick it up b&m.

but since it's kinda heavy, i don't know if it'll be cheaper than that GS deal.

I don't want to drive out to Downer's Grove to check out Fry's... Outpost does have a good price and ground shipping is like $8.50 (tax would probably be like $5 though) so I save a few bucks, but then I'd have to wait for quite a while for Outpost to actually ship, and then I'd have to wait for UPS. So far, the $69.99 price at Gamestop is still looking like the best option.

[asianxcore]

the dreamcast version has some bugs and slowdowns. The Ps2 version is more arcade prefect.

Thanks for the info.

I bought a copy of the SF Anniversary Collection today and I was wondering if I should've held out for the DC version.

[Chacrana]

Gamespot's Tekken DR Review is up. 9.2 (no, I'm not messing around this time.)

http://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/tekken/review.html?sid=6154503

Apparently, the only thing that's bad about the game is that it's on the PSP (the diagonal issue is the only con listed.) This game sounds about as perfect as I'd want it. I'm amazed that it got such a good rating at Gamespot since they usually rate games a little lower than IGN... I believe that this is the highest score a PSP game has ever gotten too.

This doesn't make the wait easier... (goes back to VP:L)

[GuilewasNK]

Sounds like the Killer App the PSP has been waiting for. Man, when I get a PSP I'm gonna be all over this.

[RelentlessRolento]

Gamespot's Tekken DR Review is up. 9.2 (no, I'm not messing around this time.)

http://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/tekken/review.html?sid=6154503

Apparently, the only thing that's bad about the game is that it's on the PSP (the diagonal issue is the only con listed.) This game sounds about as perfect as I'd want it. I'm amazed that it got such a good rating at Gamespot since they usually rate games a little lower than IGN... I believe that this is the highest score a PSP game has ever gotten too.

This doesn't make the wait easier... (goes back to VP:L)


To be totally honest, alot of the gamespot staff is very big into Tekken, so the higher score dosn't surprise me.

oh, and some good news: I got my paycheck today and realized it was alot more than I was thinking I would get... I deposited it tonight, and tommorow if it shows up on my bank account once I get off of work at 4pm, I'm off to get myself a 360 and DoA4... I jsut wish the live arcade fighters were out already since that's the secondary reason why I'm getting it.

The Thing I'm scared about now is my 360 overheating since my room tends to heat up at times (damn you florida weather and heat waves!).

[Apossum]

sweet! getting a new system is always a blast....well, except for getting the 32X. setting that system up was traumatic. are you getting XBL gold as well?

[RelentlessRolento]

sweet! getting a new system is always a blast....well, except for getting the 32X. setting that system up was traumatic. are you getting XBL gold as well?


yeah, gold is half the reason why I'm getting it. I'm going to either use up the 1 month free that comes with it, or just buy my full year right away.

I want some good matches though! I'm free bait for anyone who wants an easy win... I play too offensively in DoA4, so keep that in mind :) Plus, I play Hitomi since she's the closest styel to the way I play, though I'm still not comfortable with her.

so yep... I'm looking forward to some "Live" action on my Commoder 64 screen :)

[Chacrana]

yeah, gold is half the reason why I'm getting it. I'm going to either use up the 1 month free that comes with it, or just buy my full year right away.

I want some good matches though! I'm free bait for anyone who wants an easy win... I play too offensively in DoA4, so keep that in mind :) Plus, I play Hitomi since she's the closest styel to the way I play, though I'm still not comfortable with her.

so yep... I'm looking forward to some "Live" action on my Commoder 64 screen :)

I already get enough freebies with the scrubs I'm fighting against now (they shall remain nameless. :) ) But yeah, things should get really interesting when HF comes out mainly because I never played very much of SFII.

[RelentlessRolento]

I already get enough freebies with the scrubs I'm fighting against now (they shall remain nameless. :) ) But yeah, things should get really interesting when HF comes out mainly because I never played very much of SFII.


Well, I never played too much UMK, and I hope to put in a bunch of time to work on my skills in it when it hits live late this year (hopefully).

[Apossum]

I already get enough freebies with the scrubs I'm fighting against now (they shall remain nameless. :) ) But yeah, things should get really interesting when HF comes out mainly because I never played very much of SFII.


just choose Kokoro, hold down and keep pressing the RT. she does a sweep that kills this guy in no time :lol:

yeah, gold is half the reason why I'm getting it. I'm going to either use up the 1 month free that comes with it, or just buy my full year right away.

I want some good matches though! I'm free bait for anyone who wants an easy win... I play too offensively in DoA4, so keep that in mind Plus, I play Hitomi since she's the closest styel to the way I play, though I'm still not comfortable with her.

I'm back to being a scrub at this game to, so don't worry about it. It takes some skill to stop someone who's always on the offensive...skill that I pretty much lost altogether. sucks knowing exactly what's happening to you, but not being able to do anything about it :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

sucks knowing exactly what's happening to you, but not being able to do anything about it :lol:

Sounds like something the man on the top of the mountain would say :)

[Chacrana]

just choose Kokoro, hold down and keep pressing the RT. she does a sweep that kills this guy in no time :lol:


I hate that move. I hate all low attacks. In fact, that's the one thing I can't seem to do in 3D games but I'm a master at in 2D games. I have no damn chance against any low attacks in Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, etc.... and it's sad. Of course, if you guys prey on that, I'll eventually get better and then you'll stand absolutely no chance. :lol:

[RelentlessRolento]

I hate that move. I hate all low attacks. In fact, that's the one thing I can't seem to do in 3D games but I'm a master at in 2D games. I have no damn chance against any low attacks in Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, etc.... and it's sad. Of course, if you guys prey on that, I'll eventually get better and then you'll stand absolutely no chance. :lol:


Just practice in one game, and eventaully it will come over to the other games... I sucked ass at low attacks for a while and when I started playing Tekken 5 more competitvely I realized low is a very valuable fighitng real-estate.

[kainzero]

Just practice in one game, and eventaully it will come over to the other games... I sucked ass at low attacks for a while and when I started playing Tekken 5 more competitvely I realized low is a very valuable fighitng real-estate.
Strangely, it was the opposite for me.
Even though DoA is more fast paced it seemed easier to block low...

T5, I always get hit by Bryan's Snake Edge even though it's the slowest move in the world =\

[RelentlessRolento]

Strangely, it was the opposite for me.
Even though DoA is more fast paced it seemed easier to block low...

T5, I always get hit by Bryan's Snake Edge even though it's the slowest move in the world =\


in the world of Tekken 5, either down + 2, or down/forward are your best freinds on low... crushing or parrying is the way to own an opponent in terms of changing your defense into your offense.

[Roufuss]

I hate that move. I hate all low attacks. In fact, that's the one thing I can't seem to do in 3D games but I'm a master at in 2D games. I have no damn chance against any low attacks in Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, etc.... and it's sad. Of course, if you guys prey on that, I'll eventually get better and then you'll stand absolutely no chance. :lol:

I don't stand a chance against you already.

You asshole.

10 losses in a row. People laugh at me online :(

At least I have a bitchin gamer pic.

[RelentlessRolento]

I don't stand a chance against you already.

You asshole.

10 losses in a row. People laugh at me online :(

At least I have a bitchin gamer pic.


I may be easyer, but no promises.

[Chacrana]

I may be easyer, but no promises.

No, you will be :lol:

Anyway, I know what makes blocking low difficult for me. It's the block button. I expect that holding the block button makes me invulnerable and it just feels wierd to have to move while holding that down. Well anyway, you block by holding back in Tekken, right? I should be fine there.

[MarkMan]

in the world of Tekken 5, either down + 2, or down/forward are your best freinds on low... crushing or parrying is the way to own an opponent in terms of changing your defense into your offense.

For Bryan's d/f+3 it's better to block it than low parry it.

[RelentlessRolento]

For Bryan's d/f+3 it's better to block it than low parry it.


really? because of the recovery for both sides? man... I'm still not happy that namco is being very Bryan friendly... I am glad though that they really made Jack-5 amd Kuma into good fighters... still pissed about Ganryu and Lei getting the sham, though Lei has had a slight comeback in DR.

and yes chacrana, I will be easyer. Guaranteed win against me since I havent touched a DoA game in about a year (though I've owned every US release).

I'm expectign it to play like a deeper version of Ultimate.

[MarkMan]

Blocking is better in most cases because the move is -29(for Bryan) on block opposed to +17(for your character) with a low parry.

More frames = better punishment.

Bryan isn't as good as he was in 5.0. His wall game sufferred a lot and so did the tracking on one of his best moves. He still has f,b+2 which is really good but now it's actually punishable by the wall and always by Yoshimitsu.

Jack-5 is still crappy and so is Kuma :( Unfortunately. Ganryu though is still really good because of mainly his d/f+2. Safe launcher that will juggle on both standing and crouching opponents. No one else has a safe d/f+2 that does that. Also Ganryu is one of the only characters in DR that can land an easy/consistent 65-70% lifebar juggle WITHOUT a wall being nearby.

Lei is still about the same, a lil' better when you compare it tierwise because the top tiers from 5.0 got severely toned down.

[Roufuss]

The SF 2 Theme in the marketplace is awesome, and definitely worth 150 points imo (for Xbox 360).

[DomLando]

The SF 2 Theme in the marketplace is awesome, and definitely worth 150 points imo (for Xbox 360).
Yeah I picked that one up. Nice art. I wasn't going to pick up Tekken DR for PSP since I'm not a huge Tekken player. But since all the praise the game has been getting I might go out and get it. Any deals on it?

[Chacrana]

Yeah I picked that one up. Nice art. I wasn't going to pick up Tekken DR for PSP since I'm not a huge Tekken player. But since all the praise the game has been getting I might go out and get it. Any deals on it?

I dunno if you get the Fry's ad or not where you live, but it will almost definitely be $30 in there. PM that price at BB or CC and voila.

[Apossum]

Sounds like something the man on the top of the mountain would say :)


not any more man, that was during Ultimate, and my first month of owning 4 (which flowed with my Ultimate playing days.) ahhh, the glory days. :lol:
now I'm just a washed up old hag.

but hey, now everyone owns this game, so that's incentive to get back into it.

[Chacrana]

Yeah. And people will likely be able to beat the hell out of me if I end up getting the DOA stick when I go to Gamestop today (in about 10 minutes) since I won't know how to use it. Enjoy it while you can, guys.

Anyway, it is good to see more CAG's playing DOA4... I don't play FPSes on consoles (hell, I just don't like multiplayer most of the time) so this is really the best opportunity to trash talk.

[Chacrana]

Wicked. Picked up the Tekken stick. Saw the DOA 4 stick but I passed for now because it was $40. If I somehow miraculously find that this stick is the answer I've been looking for all my life though, I'll go back and buy the DOA 4 one.

[DomLando]

I dunno if you get the Fry's ad or not where you live, but it will almost definitely be $30 in there. PM that price at BB or CC and voila.
No Fry's close to me at all so I can't PM it at CC or BB.

[Chacrana]

Impressions:

This thing is nice. Really nice. I was expecting a semi-dinky joystick like every other joystick I've ever seen in my life but no... this thing is built like a tank and the pic on it is awesome. I'm also amazed by how semi-proficient I am with the stick already... I'm able to do Akuma's air fireballs without any issue whatsoever and the only issue I'm encountering is moving the joystick down... it just feels so much more exaggerated than what I'm used to wtih the d-pad... but I'm even getting used to that now. Anyway, I can tell that I won't be able to go back to a d-pad after I get a little better with this.

I also forgot that the Tekken stick comes with... er... Tekken. With DR just around the corner, is it really worth hanging onto Tekken 5 (for a good reason other than playing against other people) and the collectors thing? If anyone wants these and I decide to get rid of them then we can talk via PM about it.

Anyway, back to practicing.

Edit: I just played through all of SFA 2 without losing once... which was amazing considering I still can't get my super off except for rare instances. Having all the buttons available is a godsend... now I actually use the mid attacks.

[karsh]

Okay, I got my Slide Card. Now all I need are some fighters. Any suggestions for importing some fighters? I plan on eventually getting KoFXI, although I'm not too sure if it's totally worth the 65+. I also think I'm gonna eventually get Naruto: Narutimett Hero 3. But besides that, I'm not too sure what else to look at.

[Chacrana]

Okay, I got my Slide Card. Now all I need are some fighters. Any suggestions for importing some fighters? I plan on eventually getting KoFXI, although I'm not too sure if it's totally worth the 65+. I also think I'm gonna eventually get Naruto: Narutimett Hero 3. But besides that, I'm not too sure what else to look at.

Get Garou: Mark of the Wolves and Guilty Gear XX Slash for sure. I should be getting Neo Geo Battle Coliseum either today or Monday so I'll have impressions then... but most people I've talked to have really, really liked the game.

Oh, and KOF XI is worth it. I've played it for between 1 and 2 hours a day every day since I've gotten it back in late June.

[asianxcore]

Congrats on getting your arcade stick Chacrana. Glad you like it.

[Jimbo Slice]

When is the next time you guys will be playing DOA4? I wanna play with you guys.

[Chacrana]

probably tonight around 9 or 10 (that time slot is always when we start.) I'll be sure to add you.

And yeah, the stick is definitely great... I'm still getting used to it, but I'm finding KOF so much easier to play now because I can actually control my characters well... the moves where you have to hit horizontal directions rather than rotate are actually doable now... so I'm even better with Oswald as a result. Anyway, this was definitely the best purchase I've made for my fighting addiction in quite a while... considering that I saw an improvement almost immediately after I started getting used to the stick, I'd recommend that people who don't have a stick go and buy one.

[Sarang01]

Hey karsh, any word on if that "Fate Stay Night" game coming is a fighter? I would really be psyched to play that as a fight. Archer, Berserker, Saber, Lancer, Gilgamesh and ummm the blind chick. Also including the masters would be a smart choice.

[Apossum]

If I don't go out, I'll be on around 9 or 10:30 (right after Futurama.)

[DomLando]

If I don't go out, I'll be on around 9 or 10:30 (right after Futurama.)
Same here if I dont go out I'll be on DOA tonight. I also have been wanting to play with you guys. I think I am going to a party though so depending on how good or bad it is will be if I'm on or not.

[Roufuss]

I won't be on tonight until late I don't think... I need to list a ton of stuff that I've been slacking on (I wasn't prepared at all for the 20 cent listing and only got a few things up) and I think I might play Oblivion or CoD 2 as well.

Possibly Condemned.

Or Ninja Gaiden Black.

I own too many games already.

[RelentlessRolento]

damn it! my money wont be deposited till probably monday, so I'll have to wait till monday before I get my 360... oh well.. hopefully I'll find some people online playing DoA4 from CAG on monday... hopefully my left pinky will heal after it got shocked on a disposable camera by then >_<

[Chacrana]

At least you know you'll be getting one on Monday. Anyway, my lack of obligations means that I can play pretty much whenever I want so I'll most likely be able to play then. You let your pinky recover while I let my ego recover after getting gangbanged by SFA 3 while using the stick...

I'm really on the fence about the DOA 4 stick now so I'm wondering, are there any good fighters hitting the 360 other than SF2HF (UMK 3 doesn't count)?

[RelentlessRolento]

At least you know you'll be getting one on Monday. Anyway, my lack of obligations means that I can play pretty much whenever I want so I'll most likely be able to play then. You let your pinky recover while I let my ego recover after getting gangbanged by SFA 3 while using the stick...

I'm really on the fence about the DOA 4 stick now so I'm wondering, are there any good fighters hitting the 360 other than SF2HF (UMK 3 doesn't count)?

i don't think anything non-arcade has been announced yet... best bet is for DoA5, so it may be a while.

[Roufuss]

Unfortunately, Rolento, I won't have DoA 4 much longer to play with any of you since I'm sick of losing 100 times over... my grade is a D - now and my win percentage is 10%, and I threw the game at the wall, so I can't even sell it on Ebay now, have to trade it in.

[HumanSnatcher]

Unfortunately, Rolento, I won't have DoA 4 much longer to play with any of you since I'm sick of losing 100 times over... my grade is a D - now and my win percentage is 10%, and I threw the game at the wall, so I can't even sell it on Ebay now, have to trade it in.

If I had a gold account, I'd hop on and play you. I'm honestly no master of the game. In fact, I haven't played it in probably 2 months, let alone take it on Live. I intend on gettingh at least a 1 month card by this time next week or just saying fuck it and update my credit card and just go for a one month jobby

[RelentlessRolento]

Unfortunately, Rolento, I won't have DoA 4 much longer to play with any of you since I'm sick of losing 100 times over... my grade is a D - now and my win percentage is 10%, and I threw the game at the wall, so I can't even sell it on Ebay now, have to trade it in.


:lol: wow. I reccomend keeping it but that's all I'm going to say. At least trade it in before the 25th with another 360 title to get $10 extra.

[Apossum]

I'm hopping on now...

if the match suddenly stops it's because SBC Yahoo DSL is fucked up and drops out about 10 times an hour. and if I suck it's because I'm learning how to play with the Hori stick :) if I lose, it's because you're cheap and you cheated!

[RelentlessRolento]

well, it looks like namco is finally nice to US players on PSP:

http://portablereview.com/news218.html

[Chacrana]

Gamestop pricematches, right? I want to get the D-pad thing, but I don't want to pay $10 more than I have to.

[Roufuss]

Gamestop pricematches, right? I want to get the D-pad thing, but I don't want to pay $10 more than I have to.

It's very very YMMV but I'm going to say that they won't, unless you're part of the .01% of the population who gets lucky.

If it makes you feel better it's supposedly be like the SFA 3 d-pad mod, that attached to the PSP by sticky goo that eventually leaves residue on the pad and falls off constantly.

[Apossum]

Roufuss-- don't give up man! I'll give ya some pointers when we play.

chacrana-- it booted me just as I was saying "last match cause Futurama's on" so I just stayed off. GGs :)

[Chacrana]

chacrana-- it booted me just as I was saying "last match cause Futurama's on" so I just stayed off. GGs :)

Yeah, yeah. You know who had that last match anyway. But yeah, GGs as always.

[RelentlessRolento]

friggin fuck urinal cake window squeegy hemroid tackle point based vector muscle ass!

I may have to hold off on getting a 360 till August 1st since the damn rumor about the Pro Bundle comming out...

if you can't tell by now, I'm pissed by how many times I'v had to hold out on getting a 360...

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... zangeif still can't be beat:

http://www.action-figure.com/events/main.php?g2_itemId=42224&g2_page=2

[Roufuss]

friggin fuck urinal cake window squeegy hemroid tackle point based vector muscle ass!

I may have to hold off on getting a 360 till August 1st since the damn rumor about the Pro Bundle comming out...

if you can't tell by now, I'm pissed by how many times I'v had to hold out on getting a 360...

That bundle isn't happening... the ads for the week after next are already leaked and there is no mention of an Xbox 360 bundle at all.

If that bundle was a reality, it would have been in the ads. Not Target or Circuit City made a mention of it.

I finally got my DoA 4 legs back with Bayman, so I'm now a rank C and have a bronze star.

[Sarang01]

I'll play you soon enough Roufuss, once I get my 360 mem card in the mail to transfer my profile to my Japanese 360 with my Japanese copy of DOA4. $30 beats $40-60 any day after all.
Apossum so I'm not the only one? I want them to stop dicking around and go to fucking Fiber. I need my HDTV IP STB NOW. Give me any HD feed from some prominent Japanese and Korean channels and I'll be deliriously happy. TV Tokyo HD for the win!

[kainzero]

At least you know you'll be getting one on Monday. Anyway, my lack of obligations means that I can play pretty much whenever I want so I'll most likely be able to play then. You let your pinky recover while I let my ego recover after getting gangbanged by SFA 3 while using the stick...

I'm really on the fence about the DOA 4 stick now so I'm wondering, are there any good fighters hitting the 360 other than SF2HF (UMK 3 doesn't count)?
I think Markman said that the DOA 4 stick is a really good joystick solution for the PC, since it's a USB stick, and converters are sometimes funky.

[Apossum]

Apossum so I'm not the only one? I want them to stop dicking around and go to fucking Fiber. I need my HDTV IP STB NOW. Give me any HD feed from some prominent Japanese and Korean channels and I'll be deliriously happy. TV Tokyo HD for the win!


this is a common thing with SBC, eh? it's really bad and this never happened before... If I play online for an hour, it's guaranteed drop out at least 4 times. I was planning on calling them on monday to find out what the hell is going on...hopefully I won't get outsourced

[Rodimus]

For people that play X-Box live: What do you think about Street Fighter AC? On average I play it online twice a week. The competition is stiff, and most people that play are either B rank or higher. Even though at first I got beat most the time, it did make me much better.

[Chacrana]

Fuck. I knew I didn't stand a chance. I bought the DOA 4 stick.

[apokalipze2]

For people that play X-Box live: What do you think about Street Fighter AC? On average I play it online twice a week. The competition is stiff, and most people that play are either B rank or higher. Even though at first I got beat most the time, it did make me much better.A lot of players that play on xbl are really good offline tournament players. So yeah SAC is really good. I'm just hoping they make it BC on the 360 so I can continue my 3s streak8-)

[GuilewasNK]

So, anyone know the story behind this?

http://www.dk-soft.com/maribato.html

Plug it into this... http://babelfish.altavista.com/ for translation.

I can't tell if that is a demo they have there or just a patch.

[Apossum]

For people that play X-Box live: What do you think about Street Fighter AC? On average I play it online twice a week. The competition is stiff, and most people that play are either B rank or higher. Even though at first I got beat most the time, it did make me much better.


I wish it was BC, cause I miss it. 3rd strike online with hardly any lag...can't go wrong.

[Sarang01]

this is a common thing with SBC, eh? it's really bad and this never happened before... If I play online for an hour, it's guaranteed drop out at least 4 times. I was planning on calling them on monday to find out what the hell is going on...hopefully I won't get outsourced

Yeah although for me it's not as bad as it seems with you but when it drops sometimes it'll just be fucking gone for who knows how long.

[GuilewasNK]

Hey, is anyone interested in some Xbox Live today?

I have Guilty Gear X2 Reload (haven't played this in a LONG time), Samurai Shodown V, Capcom vs. SNK2, Street Fighter AC, KOF 2002/2003, KOF Neowave, SVC Chaos, DOAU, Capcom Fighting Evolution (I haven't played this much at all though), MK Deception (haven't played this much either).

[Rodimus]

A lot of players that play on xbl are really good offline tournament players. So yeah SAC is really good. I'm just hoping they make it BC on the 360 so I can continue my 3s streak8-)

Who do you use mostly in 3s? I'm guessing Hugo.

Guile - I'm at work right now, but coincidentally I brought my X-Box with SF AC. So I might be on that later.

[GuilewasNK]

Who do you use mostly in 3s? I'm guessing Hugo.

Guile - I'm at work right now, but coincidentally I brought my X-Box with SF AC. So I might be on that later.

Ok, I'll check later.

[Jimbo Slice]

Anyone wanna play some DOA4 tonight around 9 or 10?

[Roufuss]

Hayate's Raijin throw is impossible =/

[Apossum]

Anyone wanna play some DOA4 tonight around 9 or 10?


I'll be on from like 8 or 8:30 until Futurama starts.


and Hayate's throw is hard. remember you gotta get the commands off when "combo throw" is on the screen.

[Roufuss]

and Hayate's throw is hard. remember you gotta get the commands off when "combo throw" is on the screen.

I can't even pull off the first part of it, he keeps going into that similar but different throw.

[RelentlessRolento]

That bundle isn't happening... the ads for the week after next are already leaked and there is no mention of an Xbox 360 bundle at all.

If that bundle was a reality, it would have been in the ads. Not Target or Circuit City made a mention of it.

I finally got my DoA 4 legs back with Bayman, so I'm now a rank C and have a bronze star.


awsome! thanks for the heads up. I gotta mow my lawn tommorow in the morning, but after that it's straight to EB to get my 360 and pay off my Tekken DR. I'll probably get the system + DoA4 + $20 of MS Points (whatever that comes out to). Once I get my next paycheck I'll buy the year of Gold Live, but use my free month in the mean time.

I plan to re-pickup some xbox titles I use to own. Anyone have the list of Xbox fighters that don't work on the 360 yet? Even though I don't like it too much, I'll probably pick up SF AC again for it so I can get some online fights and maybe Neowave...

oh, and about neowave: how good is the online community for it?

[DomLando]

I'm pretty sure almost all the 2D fighters dont work on 360 yet and probably never will. I think DOA3 and maybe Ultimate work but who cares about them if you are going to have 4.

[Roufuss]

I plan to re-pickup some xbox titles I use to own. Anyone have the list of Xbox fighters that don't work on the 360 yet? Even though I don't like it too much, I'll probably pick up SF AC again for it so I can get some online fights and maybe Neowave...

oh, and about neowave: how good is the online community for it?

To my knowledge, none of the Xbox fighters work, only DoA 3.

Ultimate dosen't work, which is odd.

[Chacrana]

I'm playing KOF XI with some friends but I'll try and get on later tonight.

[RelentlessRolento]

damn it again! :rofl: I have an odd turmoil that I only can blame on M$:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/pgr-3-xbox-360-bundle-confirmed-189214.php

[Apossum]

I plan to re-pickup some xbox titles I use to own. Anyone have the list of Xbox fighters that don't work on the 360 yet?



all of them but dead or alive 3 :(

[Roufuss]

damn it again! :rofl: I have an odd turmoil that I only can blame on M$:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/pgr-3-xbox-360-bundle-confirmed-189214.php

Eh, it dosen't bother me if the bundle comes out or not... I got a 1600 marketplace card for free at BB thanks to a gift card, PGR 3 is $10 from the MS Retail team, and I got a year of Live for $26 thanks to a CAG.

The only thing I hope is if that bundle comes out soon within the next 24 or so days, they will lower the cost of the Premium and I can get some cash back.

[RelentlessRolento]

Eh, it dosen't bother me if the bundle comes out or not... I got a 1600 marketplace card for free at BB thanks to a gift card, PGR 3 is $10 from the MS Retail team, and I got a year of Live for $26 thanks to a CAG.

The only thing I hope is if that bundle comes out soon within the next 24 or so days, they will lower the cost of the Premium and I can get some cash back.


aww... just fuck it for me... I'll pick it up tommorow. The extra points are about $16 more, I dont care one bit about PGR3, and I dont need the 3 months since I'll be getting a year subscription when My next paycheck comes by.

I'm tired of waiting anyway and need something to pass the days (2 to be exact) till Tekken DR comes out... actually if you hadn't posted with that minor rebutle Roufuss I probably would have waited... Really I would have saved money if I wait, but barely much anyway. I'll just start asking around on CAG for 360 stuff now.

[Roufuss]

It took all day, but I'm about to finally unlock Helena and the Spartan.

If only I could do Hayate's fucking Raijin throw i'd have the Tatami stage too.

[RelentlessRolento]

It took all day, but I'm about to finally unlock Helena and the Spartan.

If only I could do Hayate's fucking Raijin throw i'd have the Tatami stage too.

nice... though I hate that spartan is i the game, good for you... I'll post my gamertag-mckthingy name tommorow once I get my account all set-up and whatnot.

[Roufuss]

nice... though I hate that spartan is i the game, good for you... I'll post my gamertag-mckthingy name tommorow once I get my account all set-up and whatnot.

Word on the street is that the Spartan is just a modified Leon / Bayman.. she started as a completely Bayman ripoff but Team Ninja wanted to make her unique.

I need someone to partner Bayman / Leon (if I don't feel like using both in a Tag match) up with, so this works out nicely.

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... soeone on gamefaqs needs to calm down :lol:

guess he really wants that-dpad mod:

i called them every day for like a week before the game camse out, so today i call them and say i will not be abile to make it in today, and i would be there on wendsday when the game comes out, i Said this to all the people working there on all shifts of the day. The manager (12- closing time) said he stapled my pre-order rescept to the box for the D-pad, the morning guy (oppining-12:00) said the same

[Apossum]

EVERYONE on gamefaqs needs to calm down! even when I post there, it's usually because I'm pissed and need to call someone a moron :lol:


I hopped on doa4 for about 20 minutes tonight and dropped out twice, so I give up for now. I went 5 and 1 against A ranks though :boxing:

[RelentlessRolento]

EVERYONE on gamefaqs needs to calm down! even when I post there, it's usually because I'm pissed and need to call someone a moron :lol:


yeah, GFs is a great place to vent since a mjority of the time your target for the hatred is mainly highschoolers/middle schoolers.

[Apossum]

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

arrrgh...connection died twice more since my last post. this is seriously hella weak lame.

[RelentlessRolento]

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

arrrgh...connection died twice more since my last post. this is seriously hella weak lame.


call ur ISP... I hate being on the phone with any phone company since they usually don't give a crap about you, but at least you can find out really waht's going on.

[Roufuss]

I hopped on doa4 for about 20 minutes tonight and dropped out twice, so I give up for now. I went 5 and 1 against A ranks though :boxing:

I slaughtered an A rank last night, then Scorch beat him as well... now the A rank is a B + and he quit our game ;)

[RelentlessRolento]

I slaughtered an A rank last night, then Scorch beat him as well... now the A rank is a B + and he quit our game ;)

wow... lol

you're probably not as bad as you seem to think.

[Chacrana]

Yeah, Roufuss isn't as bad as he was a few days ago... he's a legitimate challenge now and there's really no CAG's I don't like playing against at this point.

Oh, and I'm back from destroying my friends in KOF XI... so I'll be on. Invite me mofcka's.

[Rodimus]

Most of the Gamfaqs topics are stupid, like:

Which King of Fighter Girls would you sleep with?
or
Who thinks Sakura is the worst SF character?

It's hard to find mature gamers, and because of that I rarely post. May their souls find what they seek in life.

[RelentlessRolento]

Title for a topic on GF's Tekken DR boards:

voting for the best panties

I think that sums it up pretty nicely.

[Chacrana]

Title for a topic on GF's Tekken DR boards:



I think that sums it up pretty nicely.

I know it's the Tekken DR board, but Kasumi definitely wins with her schoolgirl panties.

[Roufuss]

Alpha 152 is the most horrible character ever invented... Itagaki can burn in hell.

He can also burn in hell for making the Raijin throw for Hayate, which is the ONLY thing stopping me from getting the damn Tatami Mat stage.

[Apossum]

Alpha 152 is the most horrible character ever invented... Itagaki can burn in hell.

He can also burn in hell for making the Raijin throw for Hayate, which is the ONLY thing stopping me from getting the damn Tatami Mat stage.

you've got all the costumes already?! very impressive :) I don't have any except for everyone's C3 and all of the ones for the people I use.

[TheUnsane1]

I may have to get in on one of these doa 4 sessions you guys seem to be having alot of lately. I haven't played in a long while but its always cool to find people who just like playing the game and aren't gonna be all 6th grade when you win a close one(or beat them like a small child).

[Chacrana]

I may have to get in on one of these doa 4 sessions you guys seem to be having alot of lately. I haven't played in a long while but its always cool to find people who just like playing the game and aren't gonna be all 6th grade when you win a close one(or beat them like a small child).

Well... I'm not gonna be all 6th grade, but I do tend to be a nuisance.

[Roufuss]

you've got all the costumes already?! very impressive :) I don't have any except for everyone's C3 and all of the ones for the people I use.

No, I've got a fair amount of costumes though, I'd say maybe 1/2 of all of them.

I *finally* pulled off Hayate's Raijin when I got disconnected from Chacrana's game, so I'm going through everyone in time attack to hurry up and get Tengu. Once I unlock him and do his exercise I should be able to get the tatami stage, since I'll have done everyone's exercise in training mode.

I've gotten the bronze, silver, and gold achievement for time attack, it's just too bad you don't get costumes when you put the round count to 1.

[Chacrana]

No, I've got a fair amount of costumes though, I'd say maybe 1/2 of all of them.

I *finally* pulled off Hayate's Raijin when I got disconnected from Chacrana's game, so I'm going through everyone in time attack to hurry up and get Tengu. Once I unlock him and do his exercise I should be able to get the tatami stage, since I'll have done everyone's exercise in training mode.

I've gotten the bronze, silver, and gold achievement for time attack, it's just too bad you don't get costumes when you put the round count to 1.

It's funny -- You've had your 360 about a week... I've had mine for 2 months... and you've got about 5 times the achievement points.

[Roufuss]

It's funny -- You've had your 360 about a week... I've had mine for 2 months... and you've got about 5 times the achievement points.

Haha, I'm maxing out my DoA 4 playtime, that's where most of these achievements came from.

I literally have played it for roughly 8 hours today. Getting Helena was awesome though, she's still pretty decent.

[apokalipze2]

Who do you use mostly in 3s? I'm guessing Hugo.

Guile - I'm at work right now, but coincidentally I brought my X-Box with SF AC. So I might be on that later.Yeah it's the only character that I find interesting in 3s. I play him pretty decently, I think;) . When i want to whore out wins I'll bust out my ken and chunli, you can't go wrong with those 2. Anyhow want to play, I'll throw you a frequest. I'm training for evo right now so different playstyles will be good to play against.

[Chacrana]

Haha, I'm maxing out my DoA 4 playtime, that's where most of these achievements came from.

I literally have played it for roughly 8 hours today. Getting Helena was awesome though, she's still pretty decent.


Good God... I'm not sure I've ever played 8 hours of various games in a day... well it's good to see you're practicing.

I've been thinking though... as good as DOA 4 is, I really wish MS would try and get a second fighting game on the system (apart from the XBLA stuff.) Instead of guaranteeing us the next generic FPS, why not give hardcore fans something like Fist of the North Star for once?

Ah well...

[Roufuss]

Good God... I'm not sure I've ever played 8 hours of various games in a day... well it's good to see you're practicing.

I've been thinking though... as good as DOA 4 is, I really wish MS would try and get a second fighting game on the system (apart from the XBLA stuff.) Instead of guaranteeing us the next generic FPS, why not give hardcore fans something like Fist of the North Star for once?

Ah well...

Namco has their head buried too deep into Sony's ass, same with Sega.

I think something like Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection with Live play would do decently in sales.

Maybe if SF 2 does good Capcom will give us more fighters through XBLA.

IGN does have a listing for Soul Calibur IV 360 in their collection lists, take that for what its worth.

[Rodimus]

Yeah it's the only character that I find interesting in 3s. I play him pretty decently, I think;) . When i want to whore out wins I'll bust out my ken and chunli, you can't go wrong with those 2. Anyhow want to play, I'll throw you a frequest. I'm training for evo right now so different playstyles will be good to play against.

How about Monday night? Just got off work and I'm drained. Gotta sleep to get some HP back. I pretty much only use Necro, but I can use other people (I'm just not as good with them.)

Guile - I feel bad for leavin' you hanging. Usually weekends are very easy but today I had to set up cameras for an interview with Udonis Haslem (Miami Heat.) What a pain that was.