I'm bored, let's talk fighters 15th Anniversary Collection!

[Apossum]

Well fighter thread-heads, we're up to number 15. I think this means we're supposed to have a blog or podcast by now. Maybe even our own T.V. show on G4, which would start off cool but slowly turn into a show about sports games, then finally end up as a bunch of drunk people on stage with scantily clad girls in bikins and a cheering studio audience.

In the tradition of fighter anniversaries, I'll be rereleasing the first version of the fighter thread:

Hopefully this will spark some conversation with youy 250+ CAGers on here right now.

I'll start it off by saying some statements/asking some questions and you can reply how you see fit. Hell, ask your own questions!

First things first, what's this whole business about "This isn't arcade perfect, the button lag is attrocious" kind of stuff? I've heard this said about SFIII 3rd Strike for DC. I see nothing wrong with it, but I've never played 3rd Strike in the arcade and I'm not a really a arcade kinda guy, so maybe I'm missing some stuff.

Another things I would like to know is what's up with people not liking the DC/PS2/Xbox pads for fighting games? My theory this that they hold it a different way I do (which they probably do). I can see the Controller S not being so popular among people because it's well....fat.

Discuss.


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Special thanks to all who keep the fighter thread alive and those who lurk, feel free to post!

[gigan54]

whoo, good to see the thread alive and kicking after so many installments. now since this is the 15th anniversary thread, I've got a few very easy questions that hopefully haven't been asked yet:


1. who's your favorite street fighter 2 character and why?

2. what's your favorite strategy to use with said character?

3. what's your preference when it comes to controllers?


1. zangief, when I first started playing SF2, I thought he was the most useless character in the whole game (granted I was 8 years old). the only reason why I thought he sucked was because I couldn't pull out the 360 motion for the life of me. now, after much practice, thsoe motions have become second nature to me and I usually get a wtf look from people at the local arcade whenever I pick him (everybody usually whores out the shotos)

2. I love flying towards my opponent with his body splash attack (jumping down+hp) .that move usually has lots of priority and annoys just abuot everybody. I also like to get in close with the banishing flat (the green hand move) and busting out with a quick SPD. it doesn't always work, but when it does, I feel very happy ( that and it looks damn impressive IMO) other than that, pokes with mk. and mini combos with crounching lp x3 to a sweep work well too.

3. I love my sf2 ps2 controller. I use it for just about everything. the button layout is perfect for both snk and capcom fighters. the only problem i have with it is doing pretzel motions (ala geese's raging storm) other than that, I feel like it's solid, and easily the best ten dollars I've ever spent on a control.

[Apossum]

if we're talking normal SF2--

1. Ryu/Ken, because it's so easy to use them and do tons of damage. On the negative side, anyone who has played sf2 can read them like a book.

2. i try to get the other guy dizzy (not too hard of a challenge in Sf2) and then the round is pretty much over with a jump kick, ducking light or medium kick into hurricane kick combo.

3. I love my Saturn-style PS2 controller :D


long time no see, gigan! :wave:

[Purple Flames]

I think it's time I tried to be more active in this thread again. Now on to the questions:

1. As far as World Warrior goes, Guile. I've always been a fan of his play mechanics. He's not as simple to use as Ryu or Ken, but isn't as complicated as oh, say, Zanngief and hiw 360 motions.

2. Turtle Turtle Turtle

3. Arcade sticks all the way. I'd rather use a shitty arcade stick than a normal pad. For 2D Capcom games it's Happs for me, but for everything else I gotta break out the Sanwa.

[Jimbo Slice]

1. who's your favorite street fighter 2 character and why?

2. what's your favorite strategy to use with said character?

3. what's your preference when it comes to controllers?

1) In regular SF2, definately Guile. In Super, Ken.

2) I play an aggressive Guile. I like using jumping sp, crouching wp x4 and then 1 more hit and they'll dizzy. Other than that, Sonic Boom and Flash Kick buffers.

3) I prefer a Hori stick to anything else (except for Tekken, <3 the standard ps2 pad for Tekken) but for a non-stick controller, I like the Saturn Pad

[Roufuss]

I figure this belongs here too... Guilty Gear in the US on PSP will apparently not feature Slash, but will feature Reload. Not the best source in the world but:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=190191

No mention of Slash and it specifically mentions Reload... as compared to:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9f-77-1-49-en-15-judgement-70-1fi6.html

Which mentions Slash right on the cover.

[RelentlessRolento]

even though I dont tag threads, i have to this time... not much time onmy hands atm.

[apokalipze2]

slash ftw, too bad it's on psp:bomb:

[Ilovephysics]

1. zangief, when I first started playing SF2, I thought he was the most useless character in the whole game (granted I was 8 years old). the only reason why I thought he sucked was because I couldn't pull out the 360 motion for the life of me. now, after much practice, thsoe motions have become second nature to me and I usually get a wtf look from people at the local arcade whenever I pick him (everybody usually whores out the shotos)


That's funny because I went with Zangief for the same reason way back when.

[2poor]

1. Guile

2. Turtle/ Rushdown

3. RAP

[MarkMan]

1. CE Bison
2. Psycho Rushdown
3. I have the biggest joystick collection ever.

Nice to see we're at #15!

Keep it alive gents!

[Rodimus]

1. who's your favorite street fighter 2 character and why?

2. what's your favorite strategy to use with said character?

3. what's your preference when it comes to controllers?


1 . Most of you know I'm a Zangief player, so of course, him.

2. Block an air attack then 360 grab before they can do anything. The timing's tough, but you'll notice they won't jump around as much after you catch them with that a couple times.

3. My one-handed RPG controller. j/k :)

[kainzero]

1: depends on the version
sf2: shoto
ce: bison / sagat
hf: ryu / zangief
st: ken


2: with shotos i like to fireball trap, if i score a dp then i get fun tick throw/crossup mixups
bison is redizzy central. get scissors kick blocked and you win
gief is fun though. tick throws galore =P


3: the awesome hrap that i got from markman

[Roufuss]

For everyone who was interested in God Hand, there is no reason to import it:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=281483

$29.99 as well.

[Roufuss]

Battle Arena Toshinden 3 is a steaming pile of shit.

I can't believe I liked this game when I was 15.

[Purple Flames]

Battle Arena Toshinden 3 is a steaming pile of shit.

I can't believe I liked this game when I was 15.

If it makes you feel better I owned fuck.

[Roufuss]

If it makes you feel better I owned fuck.

At least that game has humor going for it... Toshinden 3 is a pile. It controls like shit, it looks like shit, character designs are RETARDED. I forgot how many me too fighters came out on the Playstation.

[Rodimus]

Battle Arena Toshinden 3 is one of those games I still kinda like. I'm the only freak that likes the entire series. But I never played the 4th one, that only came out in Japan.

I always found BAT 2 to be my favorite.

[Roufuss]

Battle Arena Toshinden 3 is one of those games I still kinda like. I'm the only freak that likes the entire series. But I never played the 4th one, that only came out in Japan.

I always found BAT 2 to be my favorite.

What do you like about BAT 3? I can't find anything that would make me want to play this over Tekken, Soul Cal, or DoA.

It just controls so slow, and the game engine is broken as hell, can juggle people off walls, ceilings, everything.

[Jimbo Slice]

What do you like about BAT 3? I can't find anything that would make me want to play this over Tekken, Soul Cal, or DoA.

It just controls so slow, and the game engine is broken as hell, can juggle people off walls, ceilings, everything.

I think is what is kinda fun about it. Plus David is badass!

[Roufuss]

It leads me to a question... what good fighters are out there that aren't a major franchise, or made by Capcom / SNK / Namco / Sega?

[Rodimus]

It leads me to a question... what good fighters are out there that aren't a major franchise, or made by Capcom / SNK / Namco / Sega?

Groove on Fight is a great fighter. I think it 'smade by Atlus.

Jimfoley nailed it. I like BAT 3 cause you can do some crazy combos. Plus each character has alot of moves. And the character selection is pretty big. Even though most are clones.

David was cool. I also like the fact you have to reload with gun characters like Vermillion, so they're not to cheap.

[gigan54]

I haven't played any of the BATs, but I was always interested in it. I remember seeing a gameboy version of BAT in an old nintendo power and thinking the old man with the claws looked like fun.

[Apossum]

I think tobal No.1 is fairly underappreciated. one of these days I'll beat quest mode! I can't believe they don't let you save during it...anyway, just bought this for like the 5th time at EB for $4.

speaking of which, did you guys find that Tobal 2 was a bit slower than 1? I haven't played it in a couple years but I remember being kinda let down by 2.

[RelentlessRolento]

I've never played it, but anyone have impressions of the game "Vs." ?

[Rodimus]

I've never played it, but anyone have impressions of the game "Vs." ?

Awful game. I remember an ad for Vs saying the characters were based of real people. The fighting was slow and VERY stiff.

[RelentlessRolento]

Awful game. I remember an ad for Vs saying the characters were based of real people. The fighting was slow and VERY stiff.


That's what I was guessing... just hadn't heard anything on it really.

Eihgrez (cant spell) was a decent non-usual-fighter-making-company game.... though it was partially handled by namco guys, so I guess I'm wrong >_<

[HumanSnatcher]

That's what I was guessing... just hadn't heard anything on it really.

Eihgrez (cant spell) was a decent non-usual-fighter-making-company game.... though it was partially handled by namco guys, so I guess I'm wrong >_<

You mean Ehrgeiz. I was made by Squaresoft. I rented it when I was a kid with my parents while on vacation in South Carolina. All I remember about the game other than what I just said was that I didn't know how to play it because the BlockBuster I rented it from didn't have the manual. Was interesting to play as Cloud Strife though. Just looked it up at GameStop and they want 20 for it used. So it must not be that easy of a game to find. I certainly don't remember seeing it much of anywhere

Heres some more info from allgame.com (god I love that site):
http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||17278

[kristianator]

i don't have a problem with sitting down to a good session of tmnt: tournament fighters on snes.. that game delivers

also from konami, i used to rock martial champion back in elementary school when i got tired of whatever sf game was out at the time (i think hyper fighting?).. titi for the win!

and i know it's snk, but it doesn't feel like it gets enough love, but i spent at least a few months playing some dedicated world heroes 2 every night at the bowling alley while my mom played bingo in their bingo hall.

and while all my friends went crazy on vs. games (i think msh vs. sf at the time), i was busy trying to better my picky game on fighting vipers

never really got into mortal kombat, never really got into killer instinct, and never really got into virtua fighter (at least not in the arcade)

[DomLando]

Tag because I havent had time to read through what everyone else said. Happy to see the thread get up to 15 though.

[HumanSnatcher]

i don't have a problem with sitting down to a good session of tmnt: tournament fighters on snes.. that game delivers

never really got into mortal kombat, never really got into killer instinct, and never really got into virtua fighter (at least not in the arcade)

I had TMNT Fighters for me Genesis. Honestly, it got kinda boring afterwhile. But it was cool to actually be able to duke it out between your favorite characters.

You didn't really miss much with Killer Instinct. I seriously doubt that anyone really remembers it. Other than us gamers here and the like. Though I did totally pwned the fuck out of KI: Gold on N64 when I was a kid with Jago on the hardest level. I seriously doubt I could much of anything with it today. I've thought about picking it up and playing again, but remembering all those conditions for the super moves and breakers and stuff got on my nerves.

[62t]

Ehrgeiz was made by dreamfactory. sadly their most recent game in the US was Kakuto Chojin.

[Roufuss]

You mean Ehrgeiz. I was made by Squaresoft. I rented it when I was a kid with my parents while on vacation in South Carolina. All I remember about the game other than what I just said was that I didn't know how to play it because the BlockBuster I rented it from didn't have the manual. Was interesting to play as Cloud Strife though. Just looked it up at GameStop and they want 20 for it used. So it must not be that easy of a game to find. I certainly don't remember seeing it much of anywhere

Heres some more info from allgame.com (god I love that site):
http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||17278

That's all I remember about Ehrgeiz too... Cloud, Tifa, and Sephiroth.

I don't think my friends and I played anyone else when we rented it.

[kristianator]

I had TMNT Fighters for me Genesis. Honestly, it got kinda boring afterwhile. But it was cool to actually be able to duke it out between your favorite characters.

You didn't really miss much with Killer Instinct. I seriously doubt that anyone really remembers it. Other than us gamers here and the like. Though I did totally pwned the fuck out of KI: Gold on N64 when I was a kid with Jago on the hardest level. I seriously doubt I could much of anything with it today. I've thought about picking it up and playing again, but remembering all those conditions for the super moves and breakers and stuff got on my nerves.


oh, i actually played ki/ki2/kigold quite a bit. but a lot of times i just play stuff not because i necessarily love it, but because there's competition for it. ki was it for me back then, everyone at my arcade loved ki2.. and i played it because i like getting into the competitive spirit. currently, i guess that game that fits that description for me right now is probably cvs2. all my friends play it, lots of competition for it here in the bay area.. but i really don't like it that much.

[Jimbo Slice]

Hey Apossum, you're nominated more than once in the "best CAG" thread, idk if you noticed

[MarkMan]

I <3 Dream Factory, most of the heads of the production team moved on to Namco and worked on Tekken 4 and eventually Tekken 5.

Tobal 2 was the shit btw.(Hugs copy of the game)...

We just had a nice weekend Tekken 5/Tekken DR tourney at my place yesterday. Fun times! And I still haven't slept!

[HumanSnatcher]

I <3 Dream Factory, most of the heads of the production team moved on to Namco and worked on Tekken 4 and eventually Tekken 5.

Tobal 2 was the shit btw.(Hugs copy of the game)...

We just had a nice weekend Tekken 5/Tekken DR tourney at my place yesterday. Fun times! And I still haven't slept!

You know, I never got a chance to play any of the Tobal games. BTW, does anyone know if Target has Tekken 5 for 10 bucks?? If they do, I'll search it out. As the one closest to me didn't have any copies at all. I'm still pissed that I couldn't find it when there was that 10 dollar TRU sale back in Dec. That was the number one game on my list that I wanted

[Rodimus]

The SNES TMNT Fighters games was definatly the best. Why was the Sega version so crappy? The SNES one was actually decent.

[RelentlessRolento]

Hey Apossum, you're nominated more than once in the "best CAG" thread, idk if you noticed


I was considering myself to vote for apossum, but last minute did someone else. Though, you deserve it (one of the few heavily active CAG users here with a good heart... though eveyone here is nice ;) ).

[Purple Flames]

The SNES TMNT Fighters games was definatly the best. Why was the Sega version so crappy? The SNES one was actually decent.

Agreed. I had the Genesis version it was way too broken. If you wanted to win all you had to do is pick April, do her elbow rush, walk over to them as they're getting up and then spam her throw until they're dead.

[Chacrana]

I'm motherfucking back! London was great... Paris was not. But since my dad went on business and he somehow ended up with the ability to get me a free ticket, I flew first class so I couldn't complain.

On topic, I'm probably terrible at KOF XI again... gotta get goin' on that right now.

BTW, thanks for posting like 14 pages worth of stuff in the last week... at least I have something to read now.

[Apossum]

Hey Apossum, you're nominated more than once in the "best CAG" thread, idk if you noticed

I was considering myself to vote for apossum, but last minute did someone else. Though, you deserve it (one of the few heavily active CAG users here with a good heart... though eveyone here is nice )


hey, thanks guys. I really appreciate that :) Finally, some recognition for spending way too much time on CAG :lol: funny thing is, I easily spend more time here chatting about games than actually playing them nowadays.


About Tekken DR-- how does it record your ghost data? is it constantly doing it during all your matches and copying it to some other file or is there a mode where you "train" your character. I sure hope it isn't the latter...one last thing, I should know this but are there any differences between the U.S. and Japanese versions?

Welcome back Chacrana!

[MarkMan]

It just copies your playstyle. If you use a certain move a lot, that will register. When ever you get a move that launches and it usually follows your juggles that you do etc. It can't copy your defense ability or anything like that. It just copies your move usage/juggles/and some movement to an extent.

The CPU brings up an option often on the PSP version where it asks if you want to update your ghost record etc.

It's way better than how ghosts were in Tekken 5.0 in the arcade. In Tekken 5: DR arcade the ghosts did much better.

If anyone has access to play import games and doesn't have Tekken 5 yet. I reccommend the Japanese version, since the ghosts there are actually doing good combos/juggles lol.

[Kuma]

So i finally picked up Alpha collection over the weekend and realized i had just purchased SFA3 for the 5th time.

PS1
DC
GBA
PSP
PS2

[Roufuss]

So i finally picked up Alpha collection over the weekend and realized i had just purchased SFA3 for the 5th time.

PS1
DC
GBA
PSP
PS2

You don't need any of the other except for the PSP / PS2 version, so dump the other three.

I owned Alpha 3 for:

Saturn
DC
PS 1
Some other system I'm probably forgetting

And I got close to $100 for them on Ebay. It's worth it because Alpha 3 is arcade perfect, and the PSP version has the most extra features.

There's no reason to ever touch the GBA / PS 1 versions ever again.

[RelentlessRolento]

is the world tour mode in the PSP Alpha 3 more like the DC version or Playstation version?

[Roufuss]

I don't even know what the fuck was going on here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBQyJwKKg1s&search=street%20fighter%20cartoon

[RelentlessRolento]

I don't even know what the fuck was going on here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBQyJwKKg1s&search=street%20fighter%20cartoon


wow... talk about turning SF into G.I. Joe... in fact, I'm sure that was the intent. Heck, the animation style looks similar as well (though I do like the animation).

[Roufuss]

That story is just too bizarre to wrap my head around.

Guile is some kind of secret leader in the world tournament circuit against Bison? Wow.

Apparently Zangief is evil as well.

:rofl: I love that one part, "using only their code name... STREEEEEEEEET FIGHTER"

[RelentlessRolento]

That story is just too bizarre to wrap my head around.

Guile is some kind of secret leader in the world tournament circuit against Bison? Wow.

Apparently Zangief is evil as well.

:rofl: I love that one part, "using only their code name... STREEEEEEEEET FIGHTER"


:lol:... and didn't blanka shoot beams out of his claws near the end?

[Roufuss]

:lol:... and didn't blanka shoot beams out of his claws near the end?

I don't know, he's a heroic man beast or some crap like that, so it's possible. Chun Li was flying through the air doing her little hurricane kick, and Ryu / Ken were riding in some kind of tank :lol:

[2poor]

Guile's hair was too short.

[Sarang01]

I was wondering if anyone has played "Spectral Vs. Generation" or "Melty Blood" yet and how they are.
Also this is a franchise fighter my friend seems to like and it's not well known except in Niche Hardcore Fighting circles and that's "Queen Of Hearts".

[Roufuss]

I was wondering if anyone has played "Spectral Vs. Generation" or "Melty Blood" yet and how they are.
Also this is a franchise fighter my friend seems to like and it's not well known except in Niche Hardcore Fighting circles and that's "Queen Of Hearts".

Spectral vs Generation sucks ass.

Melty Blood is awesome.

[MarkMan]

Check out what's going to be in my neighborhood very soon:

http://www.udonentertainment.com/sdcc2006/

[kristianator]

Check out what's going to be in my neighborhood very soon:

http://www.udonentertainment.com/sdcc2006/


i might cop that huge sf collection, as well as try to get a hold of that alvin lee portfolio. it's gonna feel so fucking good to be back in san diego.

by the way, it's been a while.. markman, any idea where i can play some third strike in san diego?

[gigan54]

spectral plays like a bland rendition of guilty gear. Yo're better off just playing //slash.



as for that one clip, since when has blanka ever been tamed? also, is it jsut me or does chun li look hispanic?


edit:
markman, the artwork on that site is truly incredible! I wish I could go...:(

[Purple Flames]

Check out what's going to be in my neighborhood very soon:

http://www.udonentertainment.com/sdcc2006/

man you West Coast people always get the cool shit :cry:

[Rodimus]

It's been years since I last saw that Street Fighter cartoon. Thanks for the post Roufuss.

If you watch it again you'll notice 50% is just them running.

Guile: "What the door is closed? SONIC BOOM!"
Guile: "The chest is locked? SONIC BOOM!"
Guile: "OMG it's a Tank! SONIC BOOM!"
Guile: "Ryu and Ken got kidnapped, cause in this version they're just a couple of theives and I'm the main character? SONIC BOOM!"

[RelentlessRolento]

markman, the artwork on that site is truly incredible! I wish I could go...:(

yeah, Alvin Lee is pretty much the master at Udon... I still prefer his art over anything in terms of anime/manga looking things. The alvin lee portfolio is probably the best thign there, even though everythign else looks great.

and yes, like purprle flames said: you west coast people get all the cool stuff :(

it sucks to be in florida :lol:

[Kuma]

Check out what's going to be in my neighborhood very soon:

http://www.udonentertainment.com/sdcc2006/

I hate people that go to SDCC. Why? because i live on the other side of the country and they get all that cool ass exclusive shit

[2poor]

Check out what's going to be in my neighborhood very soon:

http://www.udonentertainment.com/sdcc2006/

I saw some of that art at AX this year. I wish I could go to CC, but I'll be in Florida during the 20-23. :cry:

[MarkMan]

3S in San Diego... hrm.. kris, best bet is to post on SRK (shoryuken.com) in the San Diego Third Strike players thread. If you want to play 3S though, we're going to have an open gaming room at the convention where you can play all day pretty much from Friday-Sunday.

[Apossum]

I'd love to get all those lithos...except vega.


Thanks for posting that vid Roufuss, I have very vague memories of that...was it a saturday morning cartoon?

Chun-li lightning kicking through a tank :rofl:

[Mookyjooky]

Blanka is the bestest - http://blankastory.ytmnd.com/

[Jimbo Slice]

I really want those door posters... where can I order them? Will they be available through Diamond Select?

[MarkMan]

jim: they should, the Chun-Li one and Morrigan one were...

[RelentlessRolento]

I saw some of that art at AX this year. I wish I could go to CC, but I'll be in Florida during the 20-23. :cry:


well, you can always visit Rodimus or I while you're down here... that's assuming you'll be in miami though...

[2poor]

well, you can always visit Rodimus or I while you're down here... that's assuming you'll be in miami though...

I don't think I'll be in Miami long, but I'll be there for a little while. I think I'll be in Orlando visiting the old folks most of the time. Thanks for offering though. Do you happen to know where that Miami Ink place is located? A friend of mine wants a picture of it for god knows why.

[karsh]

I figured I'd ask here since we seem to have some veteran import gamers here (or at least more experienced at PS2 importing than me). What's easier to mod to play imports, a fat PS2 or a slim PSTwo? Cause I have a fat one and the two easier options (Slide Card and Flip Top) seem to be a little bit risky. However, I could easily get a slim one, which seems in principle to be easier to mod since it's already a flip top. So I figured I'd come ask here, especially since my goal is mainly to get some good 2D fighters.

[RelentlessRolento]

I don't think I'll be in Miami long, but I'll be there for a little while. I think I'll be in Orlando visiting the old folks most of the time. Thanks for offering though. Do you happen to know where that Miami Ink place is located? A friend of mine wants a picture of it for god knows why.


I am almost sure it's located right in South Beach... I don't know specifics though... sorry.

Hey markman, any updates on TDR stuff?

[Roufuss]

Slide Card isn't risky at all, and works fine for 2-D fighters, same with the Flip Top, and they are both relatively cheap compared to a modchip.

I've always heard it was easier to mod a fat one than a slim one, but I don't remember why.

Chacrana also has a slide card and a good deal of imports and he's never had a problem either, IIRC.

[MarkMan]

Nothing really RR... I've posted some info at GameFAQs but that's it.

Noted a lil' bit of stuff on the ghost download pack/wallpaper.

Full ranking list.

That's it.

[RelentlessRolento]

Nothing really RR... I've posted some info at GameFAQs but that's it.

Noted a lil' bit of stuff on the ghost download pack/wallpaper.

Full ranking list.

That's it.


yeah, i just saw the post on GFs... well, at least I've got a little over 2 weeks till I can get this game.

[karsh]

Slide Card isn't risky at all, and works fine for 2-D fighters, same with the Flip Top, and they are both relatively cheap compared to a modchip.

I've always heard it was easier to mod a fat one than a slim one, but I don't remember why.

Chacrana also has a slide card and a good deal of imports and he's never had a problem either, IIRC.

Hmmmm...So it doesn't mess the motor up to the tray like I heard? That's been the one thing I've been worried about with the Slide Card. I especially like the fact that it's only 30 dollars, which might convince me to try it out.

[Roufuss]

Hmmmm...So it doesn't mess the motor up to the tray like I heard? That's been the one thing I've been worried about with the Slide Card. I especially like the fact that it's only 30 dollars, which might convince me to try it out.

Wait for Chacrana to come online, he's used the slide card pretty extensively so he can give you more of a opinion on it than I can.

He's the one who convinced me to get mine.

[Apossum]

I figured I'd ask here since we seem to have some veteran import gamers here (or at least more experienced at PS2 importing than me). What's easier to mod to play imports, a fat PS2 or a slim PSTwo? Cause I have a fat one and the two easier options (Slide Card and Flip Top) seem to be a little bit risky. However, I could easily get a slim one, which seems in principle to be easier to mod since it's already a flip top. So I figured I'd come ask here, especially since my goal is mainly to get some good 2D fighters.


I'm anti-slide card personally...I just don't like making my ps2 do unnatural things and it seems like there's more room for something to go wrong.

my method of choice is with a slim PS2-- it's very easy.

1. use a blow dryer to take off your warranty sticker if you're worried about the warranty. put it somewhere safe. (or if you got a slim ps2 where the sticker is still on the back, rather than on the bottom and over a screw, you can carefully open the system and hinge it on the sticker while you work.)

2. open the system.

3. put foam tape on two sensor points.

4. close the system. done.


I like this because it's virtually invisible and takes about 15 minutes. You could trade in your system and no one would know the difference. From there you just use swap discs like normal, except on newer models where you have to hold back this tab on the tray while the swap disc is loading.

Drawbacks: sometimes the tape gets loose and you have to reapply it. also, you can't use smoothing or fast loading on PS1 games since the system won't read the disc every time you open the lid (only reads on the initial load up.)

hope that helps.

[yukine]

Check out what's going to be in my neighborhood very soon:

http://www.udonentertainment.com/sdcc2006/

Damn, I wish I still lived in San Diego.

Arizona is too damn hot.

[karsh]

Hmmm...So now I have two sides to look at. Maybe I'll PM Chacrana or wait for him to post here and see what he has to say about the Slide Card...

[gigan54]

I use a fat ps2 with the flip-top mod. works like a charm.
i picked mine up here:
http://www.thegiantstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=265

there's also a step by step how-to page with pictures

[Roufuss]

Hm... Capcom Fighting Evoultion isn't as bad as I once thought. Besides the fact the game has 15 different art styles and play styles, it's not so bad a game.

It's a shame Capcom didn't go all out though, but CFE has some of my favorite fighters ever in one game.

The game has the most badass endings ever.

[kristianator]

Hm... Capcom Fighting Evoultion isn't as bad as I once thought. Besides the fact the game has 15 different art styles and play styles, it's not so bad a game.

It's a shame Capcom didn't go all out though, but CFE has some of my favorite fighters ever in one game.

The game has the most badass endings ever.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=RrbUm8X5S94

big smile reviews agrees somewhat

[Roufuss]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RrbUm8X5S94

big smile reviews agrees somewhat

That dude's room frightens me... it's taken him a minute and he hasn't even gotten into the game yet :rofl:

I mean, it's really not THAT bad of a game... I was tempted to dump it, but any game that throws Karin, Alex, Guy, Jedah, Bison, and Urien into one game is alright in my book.

I think it got ragged on because Capcom dropped the ball on the character selection, so people hated the game before it even came out. You know if Capcom added another 40 characters to the game NOBODY would be complaining about it.

It makes me wish that they ported Red Earth / Warzard to any home console. Capcom sure is in love with the fucking characters.

[Chacrana]

Hmmm...So now I have two sides to look at. Maybe I'll PM Chacrana or wait for him to post here and see what he has to say about the Slide Card...

The slide card is good. I like it.

Specifics? Okay -- It's not going to damage your PS2. Though it's understandable that you'd think damage is possible. I mean, you're sticking a piece of plastic in your PS2 and yanking out the disc drive with it. Still, I've been using my slide card for a good amount of time and I haven't experienced any problems whatsoever and I haven't heard anybody complain that the slide card damaged their PS2. The process you go through to prepare your PS2 isn't bad either. You have to take off the front of the disc tray, but (in my case at least), it snaps off pretty easily and it can be put back on without any problem. I didn't have to open my PS2 at all and I haven't had any issues since I started using the slide card method... so it really is an easy and safe solution. The flip top method requires that you take off the top of the PS2 and replace it with a sort of crappy looking top... so you have to open up your system and fuck around with some stuff to make it work... which is why I prefer the slide card.

[asianxcore]

I use a fat ps2 with the flip-top mod. works like a charm.
i picked mine up here:
http://www.thegiantstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=265

there's also a step by step how-to page with pictures

I just ordered one of those this morning from that particular site.

Honestly, is it hard to install? I don't want to mess up my PS2 :) I have an older model.

Also I'm not sure if this has been mentioned. But at work we got in our display cases of the new Guilty Gear game for PSP. Looks like it will include Guilty Gear: Midnight Carnival XX Reloaded. Not sure if I got the name right :)

[Chacrana]

I just ordered one of those this morning from that particular site.

Honestly, is it hard to install? I don't want to mess up my PS2 :)


It's pretty easy, but you do have to open your PS2 (obviously.) IIRC, you just open it, pull the top of the PS2 off and plunk the new flip top on. That's it.

[Roufuss]

Also I'm not sure if this has been mentioned. But at work we got in our display cases of the new Guilty Gear game for PSP. Looks like it will include Guilty Gear: Midnight Carnival XX Reloaded. Not sure if I got the name right :)

Majesco is a fucking trash heap.

Why the hell did they delay the game so long if they are just going to give us Reload?

[kainzero]

i might cop that huge sf collection, as well as try to get a hold of that alvin lee portfolio. it's gonna feel so fucking good to be back in san diego.

by the way, it's been a while.. markman, any idea where i can play some third strike in san diego?

i played 3s in SD, everyone meets up playing console at someone's house.
nickel city in carmel mountain is a crapshoot... sometimes good people will be there, sometimes not-so-good people like me get 15 win streaks...



CFE is okay... too many rulesets to keep track of, really confusing.
But it has karin! And a really easy custom for karin too!

[Roufuss]

How is Dead or Alive 4 these days? Lots of people still playing online?

I'm thinking of getting a 360 namely for DoA 4, Ninja Gaiden Black, and possibly some other games, but a big factor of it is how many peeps are still playing DoA 4 online so I know how much comp I have.

[RelentlessRolento]

How is Dead or Alive 4 these days? Lots of people still playing online?

I'm thinking of getting a 360 namely for DoA 4, Ninja Gaiden Black, and possibly some other games, but a big factor of it is how many peeps are still playing DoA 4 online so I know how much comp I have.


I'm getting a 360 in the comming weeks for the same exact reasons as you (plus Dead Rising... and DoAX2, but everyone here know that already).

[Roufuss]

I'm getting a 360 in the comming weeks for the same exact reasons as you (plus Dead Rising... and DoAX2, but everyone here know that already).

Yea but I'm also interested in stuff like Saints Row ;)

I figure by the time I scrape up some cash, Dead Rising will be out, Saints Row demo will be out, opinions will be out on both and I can make a decision. Crackdown is something I've been following for a long time too, along with Gears of War.

If Dead Rising tanks and is a shitty game, I'm gonna have to rethink my position though.

Plus I want to get WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2007, I think, I hope they take the time to make that game shine for the next gen.

[MarkMan]

I'm sure online is still going strong.

But offline, EVO2006 West qualifier(part of the biggest fighting game tournament in the world), only 9 ppl entered DOA4. Kinda sad. I think the most people I've seen enter in a DOA Major event was around 30.

[RelentlessRolento]

wow... i just watched that youtube review... it was like watching a weird convulsion :rofl:

I could tell he was trying hard, but he did his best.

but like he said "This game isn't BIG ENOUGH!"

[Roufuss]

wow... i just watched that youtube review... it was like watching a weird convulsion :rofl:

I could tell he was trying hard, but he did his best.

but like he said "This game isn't BIG ENOUGH!"

I don't know, I've played it for about 4 hours now, it's not big but Capcom really did add alot of fan favorites to it, so that counts for something with me.

Like I said, if the roster had about 40 more characters you wouldn't hear as many complaints about it, people hated this game before it was even playable.

[apokalipze2]

I figured I'd ask here since we seem to have some veteran import gamers here (or at least more experienced at PS2 importing than me). What's easier to mod to play imports, a fat PS2 or a slim PSTwo? Cause I have a fat one and the two easier options (Slide Card and Flip Top) seem to be a little bit risky. However, I could easily get a slim one, which seems in principle to be easier to mod since it's already a flip top. So I figured I'd come ask here, especially since my goal is mainly to get some good 2D fighters.Just mod your slim ps2 with a flip top. I found to be very easy to do. Really straight forward

[apokalipze2]

I think it got ragged on because Capcom dropped the ball on the character selection, so people hated the game before it even came out. You know if Capcom added another 40 characters to the game NOBODY would be complaining about it.

It makes me wish that they ported Red Earth / Warzard to any home console. Capcom sure is in love with the fucking characters.Nope, everyone hated the game because it played like trash.

[Roufuss]

Holy crap, my Shoryuken account from 2002 is still active, awesome.

[asianxcore]

I'm anxious for my fliptop to arrive. UPS tracking says it should be here by Thursday. I have also decided that KOF XI, will be the first game I import. Gotta have it. :)

[Chacrana]

I'm anxious for my fliptop to arrive. UPS tracking says it should be here by Thursday. I have also decided that KOF XI, will be the first game I import. Gotta have it. :)


Good choice. I can't stop playing the damn game and it's easily the best import game I have so far.

[Chacrana]

I'm sure online is still going strong.

But offline, EVO2006 West qualifier(part of the biggest fighting game tournament in the world), only 9 ppl entered DOA4. Kinda sad. I think the most people I've seen enter in a DOA Major event was around 30.


Jeese... 9 people? Looks like it probably won't be making an appearance next year...

out of curiosity, how was the competition for Guilty Gear looking?

[MarkMan]

^^^^

The GGXX Slash team tourney brought in a lot of people. Ever since EVO started including GG in the tournament lineup it has always had a strong showing.

----


Came across this glitch last night:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6cBrbxg3qdM

o_o

[RelentlessRolento]

^^^^

The GGXX Slash team tourney brought in a lot of people. Ever since EVO started including GG in the tournament lineup it has always had a strong showing.

----


Came across this glitch last night:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6cBrbxg3qdM

o_o


Looks like a glitch in ganryu's hit flash animation... I guess he is powered by mighty blocks!

[MarkMan]

Supposedly it happens with all characters.

I noticed it only happens on moves that have the 'splash' effect.

Ex. Ganryu's 1+2,1+2, CH WS+2, b+2, etc.

[Roufuss]

Supposedly it happens with all characters.

I noticed it only happens on moves that have the 'splash' effect.

Ex. Ganryu's 1+2,1+2, CH WS+2, b+2, etc.

Awesome, I hope they fix that before the US release, but there is probably no time.

How the hell do you miss something like that? Did they not even test the game?

[Jimbo Slice]

Supposedly it happens with all characters.

I noticed it only happens on moves that have the 'splash' effect.

Ex. Ganryu's 1+2,1+2, CH WS+2, b+2, etc.

What are the circumstances to get it to happen? I can't imagine that it's all Dojo mode fights....

[RelentlessRolento]

What are the circumstances to get it to happen? I can't imagine that it's all Dojo mode fights....


:lol: I can only imagine how crazy the unbblockables look, now that I think about it.

[Kuma]

I'm getting a 360 in the comming weeks for the same exact reasons as you (plus Dead Rising... and DoAX2, but everyone here know that already).

theres still enough of a following to warrant a purchase, especially considering the slim pickings of non-sport/racing titles on the system. If youre ever up for a game of DOA4, its not my favorite game on the system but im always willing to play somone from this thread. It would be easy for us to get a game going with multiplt people too considering the tournament style of play on Live

[karsh]

I'd definitely be up for doing some DoA4 sometime with anyone who wants to play. I'm not great though, so don't expect the best match out of me.

And as far as my whole PS2 importing thing, I think I'm gonna go with a slide card. The fact that I don't have to open up my PS2 is a plus to me, as I don't have to void the warranty. I'll prolly order one sometime tonight.

[Roufuss]

theres still enough of a following to warrant a purchase, especially considering the slim pickings of non-sport/racing titles on the system. If youre ever up for a game of DOA4, its not my favorite game on the system but im always willing to play somone from this thread. It would be easy for us to get a game going with multiplt people too considering the tournament style of play on Live

Awesome... I'll take it into consideration. I kinda want to get a HDTV as well. You think there will always be a good group of people playing, considering that it's the only fighter on Live right now and for awhile in the future?

I loved DoA, but none of my friends did, so online play is a big part of me getting it.

[RelentlessRolento]

Awesome... I'll take it into consideration. I kinda want to get a HDTV as well. You think there will always be a good group of people playing, considering that it's the only fighter on Live right now and for awhile in the future?

I loved DoA, but none of my friends did, so online play is a big part of me getting it.


I'm planning on getting SFII as well when it hits live (August 2nd from most recent sources).

I too am now considering getting a HDTV... I've been playing on my Commodre 64 screen for too long... It shows how damn durable it is for lasting this long and still being in relativly good shape.

[Jimbo Slice]

You think there will always be a good group of people playing, considering that it's the only fighter on Live right now and for awhile in the future?

There will be, people love DOA. I mean, people still play Ultimate, even though 4 is out. I'm sure there will be people playing frequently until 5 is out (if it even comes out, I remember Itagaki saying he wouldn't make it for some reason)

And yeah, I'd be down for some DOA4, if you guys wanna meet online and play sometime. Just lmk when.

[Roufuss]

There will be, people love DOA. I mean, people still play Ultimate, even though 4 is out. I'm sure there will be people playing frequently until 5 is out (if it even comes out, I remember Itagaki saying he wouldn't make it for some reason)

And yeah, I'd be down for some DOA4, if you guys wanna meet online and play sometime. Just lmk when.

Will do, give me a few days to dump a large part of my collection and i'm 90% sure I want a 360, because it just seems fun... people play it because it's fun, not because "omg the games are rare" and other dumb reasons.

[RelentlessRolento]

oh wow... I just remembered a horrible game my friend was obsessed with:

Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi

http://www.videogamecritic.net/images/ps/star_wars__masters_of_teras_kasi.jpg

it's actually a fun little title, but broken. Plus you can't lose with a game that has a character named "Hore".

[MarkMan]

Iron Fist Style... Teras Kasi :)

That game was fun when it came out.

Word to the wise. If you got a shitload of crap in your room. Clean it sooner than later. I'm dying here trying to move my boxes and boxes of gaming crap.

Grrr.

[RelentlessRolento]

Iron Fist Style... Teras Kasi :)

That game was fun when it came out.

Word to the wise. If you got a shitload of crap in your room. Clean it sooner than later. I'm dying here trying to move my boxes and boxes of gaming crap.

Grrr.


Yeah, I know that random cleaning helps in the long run. I actually spent half a week non stop stuffing about 1/3 of my room into boxes. I am very glad did now since it feels less pack rat-ish and very clean even when I make a huge mess.

this is possibly worth a read:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/251.html

[kainzero]

a shitload of crap

hurray for feces jokes

someone mentioned ehrgeiz? i tried playing it recently... it's really weird, i just don't like the running system. still, godhand has like all of the mishima moves... even a nice mist step~WGF =P

[RelentlessRolento]

yeah, Godhand is supposedly indircetly related to the mishimas... that game always had an obscure line of story...

and finally I've found something to shut up all the SSBM freaks... :
http://www.siliconera.com/2006/07/05/before-super-smash-brothers-there-was-kart-fighter/#more-1543

[Azumangaman]

I don't even know what the fuck was going on here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBQyJwKKg1s&search=street%20fighter%20cartoon

Just so everyone knows, this series was actually released by ADV Films.
It's been released in 2 volumes, each 286 minutes in length.
Picture of volume 1:
http://www.advfilms.com/catalog/images/DFG001_C.jpgI'd check back when ADV has their 75% OFF sales, this title is practically ALWAYS 6.00 a volume during those sales. Don't have it myself, but I love Street Fighter, and could always use some corny fun.
Check it out at ADV's site: www.advfilms.com

[Apossum]

I'm sure online is still going strong.

But offline, EVO2006 West qualifier(part of the biggest fighting game tournament in the world), only 9 ppl entered DOA4. Kinda sad. I think the most people I've seen enter in a DOA Major event was around 30.


not surprising. you're right-- online is very active, but no one really wants to travel to play it, aside from a pretty small group of people.



I didn't know all you guys had the game. lets get a room going!

[Chacrana]

not surprising. you're right-- online is very active, but no one really wants to travel to play it, aside from a pretty small group of people.



I didn't know all you guys had the game. lets get a room going!

Possum, shoot me a PM if you really do end up going on. We need to settle the score... despite the fact that I have no idea how to play anymore...

[Darkside Hazuki]

I may have to re-aquire DOA4 with all this talk of a thread battle.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8359/kasumipvcshop2cl.jpg

[RelentlessRolento]

I wanna join in!... wait... can't till about two weeks from now >_< , even then I'll be occupied with tekken :(

[Chacrana]

I may have to re-aquire DOA4 with all this talk of a thread battle.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8359/kasumipvcshop2cl.jpg

Is that statue still available anywhere? I seriously want to buy that.

[Roufuss]

I didn't know all you guys had the game. lets get a room going!

I need a 360 first ;)

[RelentlessRolento]

I need a 360 first ;)

At least when you and I pick up a 360, it'll probably be around the same time... we could host the first official unofficial DoA4 CAG tourney :lol:

[Roufuss]

At least when you and I pick up a 360, it'll probably be around the same time... we could host the first official unofficial DoA4 CAG tourney :lol:

Awesome ;)

DoA 4 will be the only game I'll have for awhile, that and Ninja Gaiden Black, no need for anything else I think.

I gotta hit up some Sears and see if they still sell NGB for $15.

[RelentlessRolento]

Awesome ;)

DoA 4 will be the only game I'll have for awhile, that and Ninja Gaiden Black, no need for anything else I think.

I gotta hit up some Sears and see if they still sell NGB for $15.

For me it'll be almost the same... at least a week after that I'll have dead rising as well.

[MarkMan]

MY GOD.

I beat SF II: WW earlier. Bison is cheap as heck in that game.

I did 2 red fireballs. :)

But man, HE'S CHEAP.

[Apossum]

^^^^



Came across this glitch last night:

*vid*

o_o


that's a very odd glitch :lol:


Possum, shoot me a PM if you really do end up going on. We need to settle the score... despite the fact that I have no idea how to play anymore...

Will do, it'll be soon...what are we, 43/43? sumthin like that. ah, and that statue is widely available, I think. it was all over ebay last time I checked (months ago) and I think it's on play-asia too.

there's also these sweet Ninja Gaiden figures...

http://www.amazingtoyz.com/ninjaG.html

and these are almost all gone (they looked "hingey" anyway)

http://www.amazingtoyz.com/DOA.html

[yukine]

Anyone still play Guilty Gear X2 on the Xbox? There is never anyone on, I suck, but it would be fun to play some CAGers.

[Chacrana]

Anyone still play Guilty Gear X2 on the Xbox? There is never anyone on, I suck, but it would be fun to play some CAGers.


GGXX is my favorite fighting game and I'm damn good at it too... but I will never play it on Xbox Live. The community is dead and there's a delay when you enter moves... so basically, the online mode is worthless... which is sad.

[Kuma]

guys if youre getting a 360, please get an HDTV its like night and day. Sony has a bitchin 30 inch for only 700.

as far as GGXX goes, i go on every so often to see if anyone is on but alas. It wasnt to popular when it came out anyway

[yukine]

GGXX is my favorite fighting game and I'm damn good at it too... but I will never play it on Xbox Live. The community is dead and there's a delay when you enter moves... so basically, the online mode is worthless... which is sad.

Ah well, I can't find anyone around here that plays Guilty Gear, it's always been one of my favorites.

[RelentlessRolento]

guys if youre getting a 360, please get an HDTV its like night and day. Sony has a bitchin 30 inch for only 700.

as far as GGXX goes, i go on every so often to see if anyone is on but alas. It wasnt to popular when it came out anyway


:lol: well, I'll have a 360 before I get a HDTV... I won't be able to afford a TV till a few weeks after I get a 360, but I want something that lasts when I get one.

[apokalipze2]

Ah well, I can't find anyone around here that plays Guilty Gear, it's always been one of my favorites.Send me an invite, I still play. My main character is aba in slash but since she's absent in #r I play bridget. btw only person I ever play is pignuttz so it'll be good to play different people.

Edit: Anyone still play SFAC on xbox? I need someone to give my Hugo a good spanking:bomb:

[Roufuss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnG-OBPYa2I&search=daigo

Daigo is on the right side... his Balrog is fucking INSANE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQNz8KH8SlI&search=justin%20wong

Evo 2k3... Justin Wong gets his ass handed to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6A_QCSgciU&search=justin%20wong

Justin Wong pulls out a perfect.

[MarkMan]

^^^ I was there live for all of those matches. Awesome stuff. The crowd went nuts when Daigo did that Rog combo.

He'll be back again this year at Vegas. Can't wait to see the crazy stuff goin down this year.

[MarkMan]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ADv5O6k0GIo
An amazing match from the first and ONLY major Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection tournament in the US. Japan's Mishimastar vs Southern California's chetchetty.

[apokalipze2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_5BHmaSI4&search=daigo%20parry
Might as well:)

[MarkMan]

Oh yea, opening sequence for Super Dragonball Z(Chou Dragonball Z) from Namco. Was released in arcades and just came out on PS2 recently with new stages/characters.

The game was developed by some of the original heads on the SF II team, who also worked on Alpha series and III series.

Check it out:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HOkDIRdGGLQ

Fun game. :)

[Chacrana]

Now this DBZ game actually seems interesting. Gamespot said that the game was radically different from the other games in the series which is a good thing and considering that the people who worked on this also created other legitimate fighters, I really hope this turns out as well as it should.

[MarkMan]

The game has been out in the arcade for awhile now. It's fun and easy to get into. It ran off the system 256 Namco hardware(same as Tekken 5 and Tekken 5: DR). It used the same IC card system in T5/T5DR and VF games.

It's filled with fast paced action and a unique combo system. There are some match vids too, check this one out:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LJcq199HOXI

Chi Chi and Android No. 18 seem to be the most fun chars for me. Ain't it cool Chi Chi is equipped with Kinto'un, Nyoi-bo, and the Bansho fan? lol.

[Chacrana]

That's amazing. The video is awesome and the fact that this got an arcade release means that there was probably a lot more effort that went into this game than with past entries. Changing the developers really seems to have made a huge difference. I'm all but completely sold on this now and I just need to find out if the US version only has the dub cast or if it has a Japanese option as well...

[yukine]

That's amazing. The video is awesome and the fact that this got an arcade release means that there was probably a lot more effort that went into this game than with past entries. Changing the developers really seems to have made a huge difference. I'm all but completely sold on this now and I just need to find out if the US version only has the dub cast or if it has a Japanese option as well...

It does look pretty cool, I might pick it up when I have some money.

Now if only they would release a good Naruto fighting game, and I would be one happy person.

[Roufuss]

I'd just wait on Super DBZ... Atari is notorious for slashing the prices of DBZ games incredibly fast, and with Tenkaichi 2 around the corner Super DBZ will see a price cut in no time.

Hell, I'd say it drops price before the end of summer.

[Kuma]

i picked up Budokai Tenkaichi at the 8.96 sale, i was dissapointed

[asianxcore]

Super Dragonball Z looks fun, but I may wait for reviews on that one.

also can anyone recommend any good lesser known fighters? import-wise for the PS2? is Rumble Fish any good?

[MarkMan]

I ended up unlocking one final rank in Tekken: Dark Resurrection(PSP), after Tekken Lord Black(final rank on arcade version), there's God of Fist. :)

[RelentlessRolento]

I never liked DB or DBZ one bit and still dont, but I always have had a blast playing the SNES fighters for the series. If this one is any good I may get it strictly for the fighting.

[Chacrana]

Super Dragonball Z looks fun, but I may wait for reviews on that one.

also can anyone recommend any good lesser known fighters? import-wise for the PS2? is Rumble Fish any good?

I was sorta on the fence about Rumble Fish, but from what I hear, there's some somewhat major balance issues in that game. I heard that Rumble Fish 2 alleviated those problems though, but that's only in arcades right now.

When that and FOTNS come out on the PS2... it will be a beautiful day.

[RelentlessRolento]

I was sorta on the fence about Rumble Fish, but from what I hear, there's some somewhat major balance issues in that game. I heard that Rumble Fish 2 alleviated those problems though, but that's only in arcades right now.

When that and FOTNS come out on the PS2... it will be a beautiful day.

I love rumble fish, and would play it if I had a modded ps2 like a whore... Rumble fish is probably the closest I've felt confortable with a 2d fighter.

After playing hours of it on campus, I can say it is broken a bit. Some characters are either spam friendly or high damage. And I as well have heard RF2 has fixed a ton of the old problems.

oh and yay! more famitsu stuff on Card Fighters! looks great, and falcoon's art isn't as insane and looks great!
http://ds.qj.net/Famitsu-917-Scans-DS-Mario-Hoops-Tingle-RPG-Starfox-Command-Card-Fighter/pg/49/aid/58494

now we need a translation... looks like you rub certain cards you get to find out what they are...?

[kainzero]

i played rumble fish
i was not a fan of the crazy moon jumping

[RelentlessRolento]

i played rumble fish
i was not a fan of the crazy moon jumping

On of the reasons why I like it so much is the floor combos that are possible. Plus, the attacks in the game are the most original I've seen in a 2d fighter ever.

[RelentlessRolento]

:lol: Korea for the win >_<

http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7/07m/12/psp/tkdrs01.jpg
http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7/07m/12/psp/tkdrs02.jpg

[apokalipze2]

Rumble fish 2 is meh. I've played it at the arcade some time ago. Game is hella slow too

[RelentlessRolento]

Rumble fish 2 is meh. I've played it at the arcade some time ago. Game is hella slow too

I personally favor the pace. It's a nice change up to the rappid stuff that a majority of 2d fighters are...

oh, and everyone should be sure to check out the Godhand website:
http://www.cloverstudio.co.jp/godhand/main.html

be sure to play the minigame while in secret mode, and unlock "God Mouse!" :lol:

oh, and markman, how do you do the Raven Split move at the end of this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms_C20NWGqU

[MarkMan]

^^ That Raven move is done by inputting:

Do d+1+2 repeatedly until Raven's voice/grunt changes then quickly end the input like this...

d+1+2~b,f,u,d+3+4

[RelentlessRolento]

^^ That Raven move is done by inputting:

Do d+1+2 repeatedly until Raven's voice/grunt changes then quickly end the input like this...

d+1+2~b,f,u,d+3+4

wow... geeze. I'm still surprised at the stuff I keep laerning in Tekken 5. heck, it took me close to a year to hear about Jack-5's anti-Devil Jin laser healer.

[MarkMan]

Jacks have had the anti Laser thing since Tekken 2 :)

There is a lot of stuff in the game that's not written in strat guides/books or even online.

I urge you to check out Catlord's complete Tekken movelist. It has pretty much everything. Let me see if I can find it:

EDIT: here it is - http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/tekken5/faq/gen-move-01.txt

Oh yea about Tekken 2/3, my friends and I were playing that the other day. Good old fun.

P. Jack :)

[RelentlessRolento]

Jacks have had the anti Laser thing since Tekken 2 :)

There is a lot of stuff in the game that's not written in strat guides/books or even online.

I urge you to check out Catlord's complete Tekken movelist. It has pretty much everything. Let me see if I can find it:

EDIT: here it is - http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/tekken5/faq/gen-move-01.txt

Oh yea about Tekken 2/3, my friends and I were playing that the other day. Good old fun.

P. Jack :)


on a note about P.Jack... he was a total last minute character by the looks of him in Tekken 1

[asianxcore]

I got my fliptop in the mail today, just a question if anyone can answer. If you choose not to thats fine :)

1. When using my standard (old) way to eject, I get a weird noise when the tray comes in and out. I didn't touch anything on the tray other than removing the cover. I am also having trouble getting the tray to come out all the way or go in all the way. Only when I try to eject it with the regular eject button.

My regular PS2 games are running fine so far. I was also able to get online with MGS 3, so that's not a problem.

Any help would be appreciated!

[Gameboy415]

I figure this belongs here too... Guilty Gear in the US on PSP will apparently not feature Slash, but will feature Reload. Not the best source in the world but:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=190191

No mention of Slash and it specifically mentions Reload... as compared to:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9f-77-1-49-en-15-judgement-70-1fi6.html

Which mentions Slash right on the cover.

Oh snap! The Japanese one is going to have Slash?!?!

I'm assuming its because #Reload came out here as a stand alone game on PSP last fall.... guess I'm buying both!

[Chacrana]

So my list of games to get is right here:
http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?lid=100022&owner=Jxy&mode=edit&sortC=8

And I'm currently thinking about getting Neo Geo Battle Coliseum... what do you guys think? Good move or should I considering getting something else?

[Apossum]

I got my fliptop in the mail today, just a question if anyone can answer. If you choose not to thats fine :)

1. When using my standard (old) way to eject, I get a weird noise when the tray comes in and out. I didn't touch anything on the tray other than removing the cover. I am also having trouble getting the tray to come out all the way or go in all the way. Only when I try to eject it with the regular eject button.

My regular PS2 games are running fine so far. I was also able to get online with MGS 3, so that's not a problem.

Any help would be appreciated!


Take it off and put it back on, making sure to tighten each screw as evenly as possible. That should fix it.
and online games run fine, since they use the DNS on this disc to authenticate it. (unlike modded xboxes, which check the BIOS in the xbox, which was a big pain in the ass)

[MarkMan]

So my list of games to get is right here:
http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?lid=100022&owner=Jxy&mode=edit&sortC=8

And I'm currently thinking about getting Neo Geo Battle Coliseum... what do you guys think? Good move or should I considering getting something else?

I'd recc KOF XI over NGBC. Just my 2 cents though. :)

[kainzero]

I'd recc KOF XI over NGBC. Just my 2 cents though. :)
seconded

i didn't really care for NGBC, but i LOVED KOF XI. when NGBC came out in one of the arcades here, everyone rushed to play it but within a week no one played it.

kinda like CFE.
seriously.

[Chacrana]

seconded

i didn't really care for NGBC, but i LOVED KOF XI. when NGBC came out in one of the arcades here, everyone rushed to play it but within a week no one played it.

kinda like CFE.
seriously.

I'd get KOF XI instead, but I already have it. But I seriously doubt that NGBC deserves to be compared to CFE... I mean that game was fucking terrible.

[kristianator]

markman, do you know if the street fighter tourneys at comic con are controller-provided only, or are people bringing their sticks? i seriously don't want to be carrying my joystick around all day at comic con

[MarkMan]

^^ I'll check on that for you. But I'm positive they will have controllers available there. I'm sure some people will be bringing their controls/joysticks as well.

Don't forget to check out the open gaming room while you're there!

[RelentlessRolento]

I'd get KOF XI instead, but I already have it. But I seriously doubt that NGBC deserves to be compared to CFE... I mean that game was fucking terrible.


I can't stand the game, but only because NGBC was played every day on my campus... my friends there didn't want to paly anything else really.

It's a decent game with too manny characters either too weak or too spammer friendly... also, the tag mechanics in the fighting are a little too one sided since if you lose one character during a fight, you're basicly screwed already no matter how much health you have.

:lol: looks like I'll be getting a wristrap, though I won't use it knowing me:
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B190252A

also, I decided to wait on a 360. I won't be getting it as soon as I said, but I plan to eventually. I realized I was more in a hurry to get it than I should be (partially due to Dead Rising... and that's it...). The only way I would buy one immediatly is if DoAX2 was comming out this month or next. Also, I can wait for prices to drop on certain games and the fact that Tekken DR will be out around the time I was planning on getting a 360 had a large factor in choice. I'll probably have one in a few weeks later than I planned.

[MarkMan]

Did I mention in here? When you play Tekken: DR with two UMDs it lags WAY WORSE than if you gameshare(1 UMD)? Man this is upsetting that to play real VS style would be pretty much impossible without any super annoying lag.

Oh well. PS2 5.0 forever I guess.

Joe: you coming down to Comic-Con next weekend?


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Man that Tekken wriststrap is weak. They should have just released the set they gave out at E3. Those are pretty cool actually. (Lili, Dragunov, and Jin).

[asianxcore]

Take it off and put it back on, making sure to tighten each screw as evenly as possible. That should fix it.
and online games run fine, since they use the DNS on this disc to authenticate it. (unlike modded xboxes, which check the BIOS in the xbox, which was a big pain in the ass)

Thanks. That fixed it. I still get a weird dragging noise when the drive comes out, but I think that's from the PS2 no longer having the drive cover?

I just picked up KOF: Orochi Collection today at an import shop. Having KOF 96' makes me tremendously happy, since I played this game to death pretty much my entire freshman year in high school.

Hopefully I'll be able to order KOF XI and Naruto Narutimett Hero 3 soon. :)

Can anyone recommend any good KOF sticks for the PS2?

[RelentlessRolento]

Did I mention in here? When you play Tekken: DR with two UMDs it lags WAY WORSE than if you gameshare(1 UMD)? Man this is upsetting that to play real VS style would be pretty much impossible without any super annoying lag.

Oh well. PS2 5.0 forever I guess.

Joe: you coming down to Comic-Con next weekend?


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Man that Tekken wriststrap is weak. They should have just released the set they gave out at E3. Those are pretty cool actually. (Lili, Dragunov, and Jin).

I can understand about the UMD and Game Sharing since memory can be accessed faster than disc reading. Kind of sad actually, but oh well... at least they kept vs. :)

oh, and nice articel MM:
http://www.vgonetwork.com/Article.aspx?id=400

yeah, the tekken wristrap sucks ass. Those E3 ones are nice, but I still would prefer the Tekken 3 zippo over this wristrap.

[Roufuss]

Thanks. That fixed it. I still get a weird dragging noise when the drive comes out, but I think that's from the PS2 no longer having the drive cover?

I just picked up KOF: Orochi Collection today at an import shop. Having KOF 96' makes me tremendously happy, since I played this game to death pretty much my entire freshman year in high school.

Hopefully I'll be able to order KOF XI and Naruto Narutimett Hero 3 soon. :)

Can anyone recommend any good KOF sticks for the PS2?

There is the Neo Stick 2 that comes with the Orochi Collection... but you already picked up the Orochi Collection =/

Only $79.90 from Play-Asia for the game + stick, I'm kinda considering it.

[RelentlessRolento]

any impressions on this stick?

http://cgi.ebay.com/King-of-Fighters-Limited-Edition-Arcade-Stick-for-PS2_W0QQitemZ150010791779QQihZ005QQcategoryZ21188Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[apokalipze2]

That sticks looks like ass:-& Seriously if you want a decent stick get an Hrap. They might be pricey but they're worth every penny

[MarkMan]

^^ hot poop.

[asianxcore]

any impressions on this stick?

http://cgi.ebay.com/King-of-Fighters-Limited-Edition-Arcade-Stick-for-PS2_W0QQitemZ150010791779QQihZ005QQcategoryZ21188Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I haven't actually used it for gameplay, but I was checking it out at a local import shop a couple months ago. The owner let me mess around with it because I told him I was looking for arcade sticks. The stick didn't feel that great. My biggest problem were the buttons. They were really hard and it seemed like I had to put a lot of effort just to get them to go down. The stick didn't seem very sturdy either.

Roufuss. I wish I saw that sale before I dropped $50 on just the Orochi Collection today. Oh well :). Here's a review of that Neo Geo 2 stick, this guy seems to love it.

http://www.neogeoforlife.com/hardware_reviews/neo_geo_fighter_stick_ps2.php

[RelentlessRolento]

^^ hot poop.

:lol: now that I look at it again, it looks like a pwerglove version o f an arcade stick... almost as bad as the soul calibur 2 stick...

oh, has anyone ever tried hooking up the SCII stick to an Xbox, PS2, and GC at the same time while playing each different version of SCII at the same time... would be interesting to see.

I guess I'll keep my eye on this baby then since I still havent bought one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&item=170007091314&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Roufuss]

I haven't actually used it for gameplay, but I was checking it out at a local import shop a couple months ago. The owner let me mess around with it because I told him I was looking for arcade sticks. The stick didn't feel that great. My biggest problem were the buttons. They were really hard and it seemed like I had to put a lot of effort just to get them to go down. The stick didn't seem very sturdy either.

Roufuss. I wish I saw that sale before I dropped $50 on just the Orochi Collection today. Oh well :). Here's a review of that Neo Geo 2 stick, this guy seems to love it.

http://www.neogeoforlife.com/hardware_reviews/neo_geo_fighter_stick_ps2.php

I just wish that stick had two larger buttons on it.. I mean, I know it would kill the "feel" of it, but like the review says, that stick is pretty much suckage for any 6 button fighter.

[RelentlessRolento]

if anyone can find me a better price than what's listed for this, please LMK ASAP:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEO-GEO-PS2-Controller-Very-Rare-Playstation-AES-MVS_W0QQitemZ8280808552QQihZ020QQcategoryZ21188QQs sPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

also check here for info and decent pics:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-49-en-70-kuq.html

[MarkMan]

:lol: now that I look at it again, it looks like a pwerglove version o f an arcade stick... almost as bad as the soul calibur 2 stick...

oh, has anyone ever tried hooking up the SCII stick to an Xbox, PS2, and GC at the same time while playing each different version of SCII at the same time... would be interesting to see.

I guess I'll keep my eye on this baby then since I still havent bought one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&item=170007091314&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

It's actually the same stick as the SC II Nubytech stick. Those were so bad.

But yes, the T5 stick is a good/cheap stick!

The Fry's in my area still has the game+stick for $49.99.

[RelentlessRolento]

It's actually the same stick as the SC II Nubytech stick. Those were so bad.

But yes, the T5 stick is a good/cheap stick!

The Fry's in my area still has the game+stick for $49.99.

again to emphasise that the west gets all the best: east people don't have frys :(

[PINKO]

do yall want to know what the best fighter ever is


FX fighter for DOS:):D:D:D:puke::puke:

[Apossum]

Thanks. That fixed it. I still get a weird dragging noise when the drive comes out, but I think that's from the PS2 no longer having the drive cover?




mine did that too. it would go away and come back on it's own. I got rid of it by retightening it a bunch of times (and eventually getting it right just by luck.)

[gigan54]

I dont' use the eject button on my ps2 anymore. I just open it up with the fliptop and insert the disc, then clsoe the fliptop. granted i have to reset everytime i do this, but at least ti still works.

also, on an unrelated note, metal slug 3d sucks. the cutscenes are good, and it's english dubbed, but the game feels clunky, has a confusing camera, and plays terrible.

and as for unknown fighters mentioned in the previous page, power instincts: matrimelee is a decent game with an unrelenting cheap boss.

I've yet to try super dbz, but am really looking forward to it. i've only played the first budokai game and thought it ahd promise, but never tried any of the other titles.

naruto ultimate ninja is a nice smash bros-esque type of game, but the mega powerful cut scenes really take away from the speed fo the game IMO. all in all a fun game for fans of the series, and worth at least a rental.

now a quick question, other than this game and world fighters (JP) are there any other melee type games available for the ps2?

[MarkMan]

Aside from Dream Mix: World Fighters and Narutimate Hero, I can't think of any other games that fit the bill on PS2. :(

[Chacrana]

Maybe Onimusha Buraiden / Blade Warriors?

[kainzero]

it's not likely that i'd go to comic con =X i was supposed to celebrate my graduation with a bbq... buuuuut i might have to cancel that because i might have to look for housing in SD should i get that job.

as for ngbc vs cfe
i really do think that they're on the same level. i'm actually inclined to say i like cfe more.

[Apossum]

there's some good fighter related stuff in this month's hardcore gamer mag (with the Wii on the cover.) there's an article about Super Battle Opera and one about Mortal Kombat 1 clones (anyone remember SURVIVAL ARTS? :lol: )

actually, I'm all done with the mag, so if anyone wants mine, PM me!

[yukine]

there's some good fighter related stuff in this month's hardcore gamer mag (with the Wii on the cover.) there's an article about Super Battle Opera and one about Mortal Kombat 1 clones (anyone remember SURVIVAL ARTS? :lol: )

actually, I'm all done with the mag, so if anyone wants mine, PM me!

I thought Hardcore Gamer was only an E-Zine?

[MarkMan]

Nope there's an actual Hardcore Gamer Magazine, reminds me a lot of GameFan.

[Jimbo Slice]

I'd get KOF XI instead, but I already have it. But I seriously doubt that NGBC deserves to be compared to CFE... I mean that game was fucking terrible.

Honestly I really really like NGBC. It's nowhere close to CFE.

It's a really fun game with a decent tag system, a ton of guys, and a really varied roster. It also has awesome 'secret' tag supers.

I also don't think saying that you're at such a disadvantage when you lose a guy is a fair argument... I mean you freakin lost a character. Just because it's not like KoFXI or MvC2 (which are still very, very possible to win a match in even if you lose a guy) doesn't mean it's bad. I see comeback wins all the time. I mean, in Tekken Tag you really can't come back if you lose a character ;)

[Chacrana]

Yeah, I went ahead and bought NGBC... seems like almost all the people I talked to on other boards really liked the game and watching some more match vids convinced me.

[RelentlessRolento]

Nope there's an actual Hardcore Gamer Magazine, reminds me a lot of GameFan.


Isn't some of the staff former GameFan writers? man... I actually miss gamefan... it was like an actual good version of Gamepro :lol:

[GuilewasNK]

Woah. Can't believe I have overlooked this thread.

We need a VH-1 style "Where are they now?" segment for VGM. :lol:

[kristianator]

i loved gamefan, but i thought it was kinda funny how many typoes there were each issue

[Apossum]

It's pretty much the same people and design style of Gamefan, but with less microscopic print (game magazines used to be HUGE back in the day...anyone else remember those 300 page issues of EGM around the time SF2 for the Snes came out? )

There are still a ton of errors just like gamefan-- on one page, there was broken italic code all over the place :lol:

they reminded me about Tatoo Assassins, an MK clone with actual nude-alities and with worse gore. It never got released, but I guess it's on mame.

[Chacrana]

Woah. Can't believe I have overlooked this thread.

We need a VH-1 style "Where are they now?" segment for VGM. :lol:

So why was VGM banned in the first place? I always wondered and I never found out.

[Apossum]

Woah. Can't believe I have overlooked this thread.

We need a VH-1 style "Where are they now?" segment for VGM. :lol:


long time no see! :)

he's probably in juvi or dead because he talked smack to the wrong guy. :lol:

So why was VGM banned in the first place? I always wondered and I never found out.

as far as i know, he just trash talked in every thread he posted in and annoyed the hell out of the mods.

[FriskyTanuki]

I've yet to try super dbz, but am really looking forward to it. i've only played the first budokai game and thought it ahd promise, but never tried any of the other titles.

naruto ultimate ninja is a nice smash bros-esque type of game, but the mega powerful cut scenes really take away from the speed fo the game IMO. all in all a fun game for fans of the series, and worth at least a rental.
Super DBZ was very fun to play at E3. If your main beef with the Budokai games was that it wasn't for hardcore fighting fans, Super DBZ should fit nicely. I still can't wait for BT2 and it's triple digit character list and huge story mode.

NUN has been very fun so far. I don't see why the special move cutscenes would take away from the speed of the game when you're tasked with trying to enter the button combination ASAP. The humorous cutscenes are great to watch (Rock Lee and Gai-sensei), though with enough luck you can buy them all in the store.

[Roufuss]

Super DBZ was very fun to play at E3. If your main beef with the Budokai games was that it wasn't for hardcore fighting fans, Super DBZ should fit nicely. I still can't wait for BT2 and it's triple digit character list and huge story mode.
.

Budokai Tenkaichi 2 has ALOT of work to do if it's anything like BT.

What the hell is the point of triple digit characters when every single one of them play the same? I'm looking forward to Super DBZ because the characters will actually be UNIQUE, I'll take 15 unique characters over 50 clones any day of the week.

Hell, in BT Trunks w/ sword and Dabura had almost idential move lists, right down to their super move... that's just retarded.

[Chacrana]

as far as i know, he just trash talked in every thread he posted in and annoyed the hell out of the mods.


Oh, that's it? I thought it was something truly damnable like making a move on Mrs. Cheapy or something like that and the banning was just the wrath of Cheapy D.

Well I guess your explanation's a little more plausable.

[FriskyTanuki]

Budokai Tenkaichi 2 has ALOT of work to do if it's anything like BT.

What the hell is the point of triple digit characters when every single one of them play the same? I'm looking forward to Super DBZ because the characters will actually be UNIQUE, I'll take 15 unique characters over 50 clones any day of the week.

Hell, in BT Trunks w/ sword and Dabura had almost idential move lists, right down to their super move... that's just retarded.
I thought BT was well-done for a new developer jumping into the series. Other than a few mishaps, like ground textures clashing with each other, japanese voices for yells and move names though the english dub was chosen, and just small stuff like that. They've done a good job in improving graphics, adding in-game transformations, and improving the game as a whole. The reason they don't play differently is because the game is more of an action-fighting game rather than a hardcore fighting game, so the only differences between them are the moves themselves, power levels, and small stuff like that. It's not made for the hardcore fighting game fan, so expecting it to be will always disappoint you.

[Roufuss]

I thought BT was well-done for a new developer jumping into the series. Other than a few mishaps, like ground textures clashing with each other, japanese voices for yells and move names though the english dub was chosen, and just small stuff like that. They've done a good job in improving graphics, adding in-game transformations, and improving the game as a whole. The reason they don't play differently is because the game is more of an action-fighting game rather than a hardcore fighting game, so the only differences between them are the moves themselves, power levels, and small stuff like that. It's not made for the hardcore fighting game fan, so expecting it to be will always disappoint you.

I've played the DBZ series of games for years now... I didn't expect a hardcore fighting sim, but when all the characters share the same pallet of moves it is boring as hell, everyone is just a clone of someone else with a different costume. I'd unlock someone just to see he shares the same moves as 7 other people, so that's boring as hell.

Tenkaichi dosen't have in-game transformations, either, unless you mean Tenkaichi 2?

[GuilewasNK]

So why was VGM banned in the first place? I always wondered and I never found out.

Just kept on being an ass bascially. I don't know why because from all accounts he was a good trader. Why he would want to jeopardize that is beyond me. I have to admit that the mods were very patient with him though and gave him every chance to get rid of his sour attitude. Honestly, he wasn't that much different from the number two CAG villain from this year's Cheapy awards.

[RelentlessRolento]

Just kept on being an ass bascially. I don't know why because from all accounts he was a good trader. Why he would want to jeopardize that is beyond me. I have to admit that the mods were very patient with him though and gave him every chance to get rid of his sour attitude. Honestly, he wasn't that much different from the number two CAG villain from this year's Cheapy awards.


He was a real picky trader from th few trades I had done with him, but overall we both benefited. I feel kinda bad because VGM started out as a real nice guy and then converted to a total asshole... sad really.

[GuilewasNK]

He was a real picky trader from th few trades I had done with him, but overall we both benefited. I feel kinda bad because VGM started out as a real nice guy and then converted to a total asshole... sad really.

Yep. That pretty much nails it.

I saw a little of X-Play today and Adam Sessler was reviewing Neowave. He was ripping on the graphics saying that 2D fighters should look like Guilty Gear. I admit, the visuals could use a bump. I think if they can get them to Last Blade level that would be excellent :drool:, but Sessler fails to realize that you can't easily redo art for a 40+ roster and 2D fighting games are a niche market now.

[Chacrana]

Yep. That pretty much nails it.

I saw a little of X-Play today and Adam Sessler was reviewing Neowave. He was ripping on the graphics saying that 2D fighters should look like Guilty Gear. I admit, the visuals could use a bump. I think if they can get them to Last Blade level that would be excellent :drool:, but Sessler fails to realize that you can't easily redo art for a 40+ roster and 2D fighting games are a niche market now.

Yeah, KOF XI thankfully looks a lot better IMO.

Actually, I'm thinking about selling off my copy of Neowave now along with KOF 2002/2003... 02's getting a rebout and 03 and Neowave probably aren't worth keeping now... unless there's some reason I should hang onto them.

[RelentlessRolento]

Yeah, KOF XI thankfully looks a lot better IMO.

Actually, I'm thinking about selling off my copy of Neowave now along with KOF 2002/2003... 02's getting a rebout and 03 and Neowave probably aren't worth keeping now... unless there's some reason I should hang onto them.


excuse my lack of knowlage, but who is that barefoot girl in KoFXI? She freaks me out for some reason, possibly due to her head looking a bit oversized and animeish on such a well animated and lifelike body... weird for me though :(

[Esper]

excuse my lack of knowlage, but who is that barefoot girl in KoFXI? She freaks me out for some reason, possibly due to her head looking a bit oversized and animeish on such a well animated and lifelike body... weird for me though :(

Momoko?

[RelentlessRolento]

Momoko?

there you go!

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fightgen/characters2/momoko.html

still don't know why exactly she creeps me out.

[Chacrana]

I dunno either.

But it's worth noting that I unlocked Mr. Big today. Very cool.

[RelentlessRolento]

I dunno either.

But it's worth noting that I unlocked Mr. Big today. Very cool.

:applause: <-- is that happy enough :)

good job...

any chance at it ever comming here? I know sony is a bitch about 2d, but the PS2 is near the end so uh... yep!

[Roufuss]

:applause: <-- is that happy enough :)

good job...

any chance at it ever comming here? I know sony is a bitch about 2d, but the PS2 is near the end so uh... yep!

Last I heard they didn't want to settle for budget prices anymore, so it probably won't come out over here. The games could come out over here if they were priced $20 - $30, but SNK probably wants $50 per game, which dosen't fly with SCEA.

[MarkMan]

http://static.flickr.com/46/189848348_f6b7c4a37a_o.jpg

Just droppin by to share some info. www.SDTEKKEN.com or www.TEKKENZAIBATSU.com for more information!

Actually made a deal with Score Ent./Epic Battles today and we'll be working with them at the tournament for some nice suprises for those who enter!

[Chacrana]

Last I heard they didn't want to settle for budget prices anymore, so it probably won't come out over here. The games could come out over here if they were priced $20 - $30, but SNK probably wants $50 per game, which dosen't fly with SCEA.


I actually think it's good though because now I don't feel guilty about blowing a shitload of money on an import.

Speaking of spending a lot of money, I think this thread has been detrimental for me in that it's making me buy more and more fighters...

[B:L]

Actually made a deal with Score Ent./Epic Battles today and we'll be working with them at the tournament for some nice suprises for those who enter!Yay, Tekken cards compatable with Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter.

...I still prefer UFS though. 8-)

11-12:45 on Saturday? Doesn't that clash with Street Fighter II’ Hyper Fighting from 12-5? How is that gonna work out? :cold:

And what's the V stand for in the poster? :D
VIOLET?

[gigan54]

oooh, pretty flyer.... so... my cousin now thinks he's better than me in SFA3. looks like I've got some schooling to do at midnight. out of curiosity, are there any chun li or cammy players here? he always uses these two, and I want to help him out with some actual strategies for once. jsut an FYI, he's a sweeping whore. [/rant of cousin]

I didn't like Mr. Big in KOFXI. but I did enjoy Mai in this game. I sont' usually pick the high jumpers (excluding choi) but she just feels good in this title. speaking of which, choi should've been a much better secret character. I'd take choi over hotaru anyday.

[FriskyTanuki]

I've played the DBZ series of games for years now... I didn't expect a hardcore fighting sim, but when all the characters share the same pallet of moves it is boring as hell, everyone is just a clone of someone else with a different costume. I'd unlock someone just to see he shares the same moves as 7 other people, so that's boring as hell.

Tenkaichi dosen't have in-game transformations, either, unless you mean Tenkaichi 2?
I've never really had any problem with it as the characters with the same moves are generally characters that weren't in the show for all that long, so they just make cookiecutter movesets for them to throw in. It's not hard to see why movesets are similar when you have one punch/kick button and one for energy attacks, which use the d-pad and rely on current power level/transformation state.

Yeah, the third sentence refers to BT2. You just press the right analog stick in and your character transforms to the next level assuming he can. I got to play as Slug and he just gets really huge, so you can just slap the other guy around pretty easily, but you're slow as fuck. I can't wait to finally DB characters in the game since that show is pretty much perfect for a fighting game with tons of fighters

[MarkMan]

Yay, Tekken cards compatable with Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter.

...I still prefer UFS though. 8-)

11-12:45 on Saturday? Doesn't that clash with Street Fighter II’ Hyper Fighting from 12-5? How is that gonna work out? :cold:

And what's the V stand for in the poster? :D
VIOLET?

11-12:45 is just for the signups.

1 PM is the actual tournament. There's nothing we can do about the times clashing unfortunately :( !

The V stands for VGO. :)

Or Victoly.

Hahah.

[asianxcore]

But yes, the T5 stick is a good/cheap stick!

The Fry's in my area still has the game+stick for $49.99.

How does the stick fair while playing Capcom or SNK fighting games? Is it a good stick even without modding it?

I want an arcade stick that I can use for my PS2 and for my Dreamcast (I'm guessing through controller port/converters). Should I hold out for that Agetec Dreamcast stick?

[kainzero]

oooh, pretty flyer.... so... my cousin now thinks he's better than me in SFA3. looks like I've got some schooling to do at midnight. out of curiosity, are there any chun li or cammy players here? he always uses these two, and I want to help him out with some actual strategies for once. jsut an FYI, he's a sweeping whore. [/rant of cousin] for chun... abuse the hell out of j.lk and her sweep.

after sweep, cross up with j.lk and you get good mixup options. throw, or go into a block string. obviously, if you connect, c.mp into senretsu super...

connect with an air-to-air counterhit, and you get crouch cancel j.hks to the corner for a free dizzy.

sweep is your anti air, or you can be tricky and AA with s.lp, crouch cancel j.mp, c.hk. mm.

play A or X, V is okay because you get all the advantage of activation and a free infinite setup, but you lose quite a bit of damage off of her annoying pokes.

How does the stick fair while playing Capcom or SNK fighting games? Is it a good stick even without modding it?

I want an arcade stick that I can use for my PS2 and for my Dreamcast (I'm guessing through controller port/converters). Should I hold out for that Agetec Dreamcast stick?

unless you're really anal about the quality of your stick and know the physical difference between a Sanwa button and a Hori button... the T5 stick is fine =P

[B:L]

11-12:45 is just for the signups.

1 PM is the actual tournament. There's nothing we can do about the times clashing unfortunately :( !

The V stands for VGO. :)

Or Victoly.

Hahah.Victoly indeed :lol:

So no pulling an EVO2004 where players can alternate between tournaments at the same time, eh? I guess that works only if players are in the same room, but it bogs down the tournament times.

Hmm...I had signed up online for SFII'HF, but you can guess what I'll show up for. 8-)

[Strider Turbulence]

You guys seem to talk quite a bit about import fighters here, so I have a few questions if anyone doesn't mind answering them:

1. What are you using to play imports? I'm close to to getting a slide card/magic disc combo but some sources claim it is incompatible with a slim ps2.

2. I've been told that the slide card method of playing imports does a number on your ps2. Anyone who has used it for a few months experienced any problems? If I can get a year's worth of enjoying imports with that, I'll gladly buy another ps2 when the time comes.

[Chacrana]

You guys seem to talk quite a bit about import fighters here, so I have a few questions if anyone doesn't mind answering them:

1. What are you using to play imports? I'm close to to getting a slide card/magic disc combo but some sources claim it is incompatible with a slim ps2.

2. I've been told that the slide card method of playing imports does a number on your ps2. Anyone who has used it for a few months experienced any problems? If I can get a year's worth of enjoying imports with that, I'll gladly buy another ps2 when the time comes.

1. I don't know much about modding the slim PS2's, but I think it can be done using tape... someone's gotta have more detail than that.

2. Slide card doesn't damage your PS2. I've been using it for a long time without having even the slightest problem and I haven't talked to anyone who's had a problem.

[Apossum]

Holy shit! The d-pad on the white PSP is a huuuuge improvement! I can finally do special moves and combos in Darkstalkers! :shock: it's more like the PS2 pad, but still a bit awkward.


1. What are you using to play imports? I'm close to to getting a slide card/magic disc combo but some sources claim it is incompatible with a slim ps2.



it isn't compatible, since the slide card is used to pull out the tray and the slim is a flip top.

you can do this-- open the slim ps2, put a piece of thick foam tape on the button right above the power button, then put a piece on the other button near the back-right hinge of the lid.

that may sound vague, but you'll see what I mean when you open it. those are two sensors which make sure the lid is closed before loading a disc. If you want to keep your warranty sticker, hold a blow dryer on it for a couple minutes (loosens the glue), then slowly peel it off and put it somewhere safe (if you stick it to something else, blow dry it again before you take it off!)

let me know if you have any questions about that...

[Chacrana]

Are you joking? Fighting games are supposed to be unplayable on the PSP. So what's different about the d-pad? Does it just stick out more?

[Apossum]

Are you joking? Fighting games are supposed to be unplayable on the PSP. So what's different about the d-pad? Does it just stick out more?


it's definitely raised. those forward + 180 forward moves still won't be too easy, but quarter circle moves (and jumping forward) are cake.

not joking at all, I totally encourage anyone who plans on getting a PSP to import a white one (if they don't fix the d-pad) :)

[Jimbo Slice]

You guys seem to talk quite a bit about import fighters here, so I have a few questions if anyone doesn't mind answering them:

1. What are you using to play imports? I'm close to to getting a slide card/magic disc combo but some sources claim it is incompatible with a slim ps2.

2. I've been told that the slide card method of playing imports does a number on your ps2. Anyone who has used it for a few months experienced any problems? If I can get a year's worth of enjoying imports with that, I'll gladly buy another ps2 when the time comes.

I use a flip-top, it's very very easy to install, but since it sounds like you have a slim ps2, then you should just do the tape method. Very very easy.

[apokalipze2]

I modded my slim ps2 with a flip top. The tape method method seemed a little too ghetto

[Chacrana]

I modded my slim ps2 with a flip top. The tape method method seemed a little too ghetto


Actually, that's the sole reason I hate the slide card. Considering that it requires you to jam a piece of plastic into your PS2 and yank out the disc tray (basically fucking your PS2 in the least erotic way possible), it is truly the gettoist (sic) method possible. I halfway expect to buy my meals with foodstamps if I keep using this thing.

[Apossum]

yeah, the tape method is actually really nice and it does the same job as a flip top. you can't even tell it's in there after you close up the system.

[Chacrana]

I don't even know who has DOA 4 anymore, but I'll probably be on tonight. I just destroyed a PS2 controller and that was my only one... so I'll prolly get a new one tomorrow. But it's the 360's chance to shine now.

[Apossum]

I don't even know who has DOA 4 anymore, but I'll probably be on tonight. I just destroyed a PS2 controller and that was my only one... so I'll prolly get a new one tomorrow. But it's the 360's chance to shine now.


we've got a tie to break...and what better time to do it when we both suck ;)

i won't be going out till around 10:30 or so (if i do go out...I got completely dehydrated today...fuckin hot out!) so I'll hop on later.

[Jimbo Slice]

Where can I pick up a boot disc for ps2 to play ps1 imports? One that is compatible with my modded fliptop ps2.

I've been thinking about getting Tobal 2.

[Chacrana]

we've got a tie to break...and what better time to do it when we both suck ;)

i won't be going out till around 10:30 or so (if i do go out...I got completely dehydrated today...fuckin hot out!) so I'll hop on later.

I didn't even leave the fuckin' house today. Probably for the best since everyone's been saying it sucks outside. Tomorrow's supposed to hit 100 or some shit too... good day to enjoy indoor weather again. Maybe I'll play some Ridge Racer 6 since I still haven't opened that.

[Apossum]

Where can I pick up a boot disc for ps2 to play ps1 imports? One that is compatible with my modded fliptop ps2.

I've been thinking about getting Tobal 2.

you need Breaker Pro. I used to have it, it was a pain in the ass to use, but I think it might be your only option. Check out forums.afterdawn.com -- they've got a ps2 mod forum there that's got everything.

I didn't even leave the in' house today. Probably for the best since everyone's been saying it sucks outside. Tomorrow's supposed to hit 100 or some shit too... good day to enjoy indoor weather again. Maybe I'll play some Ridge Racer 6 since I still haven't opened that.

yeah, getting blurry vision from a dehydration migraine on I-94 was not my ideal way of ending my afternoon :lol: but the psp (and 2 hours of sleep and a couple gallons of water) made it all better!

the person I was hitting the bars with has conjunctivitis, so I'll be on doa tonight after futurama.

[Roufuss]

King of Fighters 2006 price dropped to $29.99 before release, down from $39.99... I'll probably GGC it now.

On another note, I also bought KoF Neo Blood EX 2 for GBA today, $9.98 from TRU, debating playing it (it got good reviews) or selling it.

[RelentlessRolento]

King of Fighters 2006 price dropped to $29.99 before release, down from $39.99... I'll probably GGC it now.

On another note, I also bought KoF Neo Blood EX 2 for GBA today, $9.98 from TRU, debating playing it (it got good reviews) or selling it.


Wait for KoF DS... whenever the hell we know anything about that game...

[Roufuss]

Wait for KoF DS... whenever the hell we know anything about that game...

If KoF for GBA is anything like other KoF's, they are all playable games, there usually is no either / or, since both will probably be worth owning (according to reviews for KoF GBA, mostly 80%'s).

Even if it sucks it gets more than $9.98 on Ebay, so it's win / win.

[RelentlessRolento]

If KoF for GBA is anything like other KoF's, they are all playable games, there usually is no either / or, since both will probably be worth owning (according to reviews for KoF GBA, mostly 80%'s).

Even if it sucks it gets more than $9.98 on Ebay, so it's win / win.

well, that's definitly true.

Gald to hear KoF2006 is cheaper... I would have still bought it at $40, but it's win/win anyway.

oh and everyone keep in mind that once TDR is released, to upload their characters to the TZ database (when Castel gets everything coded down). I want to try everyone else's ghosts. I'm expecting MM's to be the best though... hopefully I come in second >_<

http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/ghost_library.jpg

[DomLando]

$29.99 for KoF 2006 is great news. I haven't played the import since i got KoF XI.

[RelentlessRolento]

note: The gamerip of TDR PSP music is up:

http://www.shadowhaxor.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=21&min=10&orderby=titleA&show=10

join if you want to downlaod it though.

I personally prefer the actual OST, so I may be ordering a copy of it soon.

[yukine]

I didn't even leave the fuckin' house today. Probably for the best since everyone's been saying it sucks outside. Tomorrow's supposed to hit 100 or some shit too... good day to enjoy indoor weather again. Maybe I'll play some Ridge Racer 6 since I still haven't opened that.

Only a 100F? It's been about 110 - 111F here.

...I hate arizona. :cry:

[asianxcore]

anyone know how easy it is to mod the Street Fighter Anniversary stick?

http://arcadestickmonk.com/SFACmod.html

I was reading through that mod there, and it seems very difficult for someone like myself, who have no experience at all doing stuff like that :)

[MarkMan]

My ghost sucks on PSP :(

Since the ghost only copies how you play vs the cpu, you'll see me do anti AI moves and juggles lol. I'll upload my business ghosts in a few days. :)

Right now you can just find my Ganryu ghost online. :)

[Chacrana]

So I've been playing a shitload of fighting games recently and I figured that it might be time to ditch the d-pad and start using an arcade stick. Unfortunately, I've never known how to use an arcade stick well in the arcades and I don't know anything about home arcade sticks so I do need some help deciding on what to get. So are there any relatively cheap sticks that are recommendable? I need it to work with the PS2, but it would also be nice to have it work with the Dreamcast and Xbox since I still have fighters on those systems as well. Also, what's a "Japanese style stick?"

Markman, this question is aimed somewhat directly at you.

[Apossum]

Speaking of which, what do you guys prefer-- pad or stick? I think we may have done this one before...

I've tried many times, but can't get into arcade sticks. I never play at the arcades anymore (been like 10 times in the past 10 years) so I'm thoroughly adjusted to a pad. Plus, all the sticks I've owned have been loud and clicky! I might be able to get into them if they were quiet! :lol:


Only a 100F? It's been about 110 - 111F here.

...I hate arizona. :cry:

I used to live in Prescott, AZ! Trust me, the humidity makes the Chicago area worse :-( The whole "dry heat" thing is true... although 'zona can get freaking brutal, since there's rarely any cloud coverage. There's definitely a reason why the streets of Phoenix are practically empty all the time during the summer :lol:

[Chacrana]

It's absolutely always humid in Chicago and it sucks... because you go outside to get the mail or something and you feel like shit by the time you get back to the house. It's awful.

As for pads vs. sticks... as would seem obvious, I prefer pads because that's all I know how to use right now. Really getting sick of having to use the L trigger for stuff... and qcb's on the PS2 pad are annoying.