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Your man screwed by Japan

By dv8mad 09-22-2010 06:00 AM
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Got back from immigration just a little while ago, updated the lowball thread and now time to update on the situation.

Over the phone, we were told that, when we arrived, we should go to counter A. That was pretty easy, but the thing with the immigration office is, even though it is full of foreigners, English is really hit or miss with the employees. So, Ai started talking with the lady and outlined the situation so she would understand why we were there. She looked at me with a big smile. I thought she was going to say "no problem", or "don't worry"... Something along those lines, but she said "It's a big problem!" Thanks lady.

Anyway, we took our number and went to wait for it to be called. Last time, we sat there for an hour and 40 minutes before being called, so this time, Ai decided to take Ryu and change his diaper since we would have to wait.

As expected, my number was called almost immediately after she left. I trudged up to the counter hoping the guy would be able to speak English and, luckily he could a bit. I can speak some Japanese, but the main problem is I can speak conversational Japanese. When it come to the names of official forms and such, I'm lost!
He asks If I had the 会えにゅさぬんすめすみゅえんべうせそあえうぃわびゅ (Ok, I admit I just hit a bunch of random keys right there because I don't know what he said). I gave him all of the new paperwork that we had received yesterday at the Ward Office and he said that the item in question was not there. I told him that we had previously brought some documents that were kept and that it's quite possible they were in that packet. He just looked at me and said "Mmmm".

After a bit of useless back and forth, Ai made it back, he asked about the document and she told him that we brought it on our previous trip and that they had it. He said that they do not keep forms. Ai insisted that the immigration office would never do that and that it had been returned to us. She said that actually, not only did they not return that form, but they had kept my Alien Registration Card and insurance card as well. Again, he went into his "we don't do that" mantra, when suddenly the girl that had dealt with us last time came up and told him that she had our packet in the back. Lo and behold, it contained the document in question!

Next, he asked if we had the form proving that I was divorced from my ex-wife, Satan.

I am usually a pretty calm person, but I was ready to flip out. We had our wedding certificate as well as our family registry there showing AI, myself and Ryu, and he still wanted to see this document? The same document we must present to the government in order to receive the two documents we brought with us?

As always, this is my biggest "complaint" about the Japanese people. They just do not get logic. FACT: A always results in B and B always results in C. You can ONLY get C by going through the A,B,C process.
If someone has C, did they ever have A?
Correct answer Yes, of course.
Correct answer in Japan I am unsure. Let me check for document A in every nook and cranny. I do not see it. Let me ask them if they have it. They do not. Let me find out if they have a copy of the original. They do not. Let me find out if they can leave and come back with it another day. They cannot because they are short on time. I must assume that document A never existed.

I won't even get deep into why we do not want to try to get document A again. In all actuality, it was a fricking circus trying to get it the first time as my last name and my wife's last name didn't match.
Short version:
You don't have the same last name.
Yes, I am aware of that.
We can't give you the document.
But my name is on it.
Yes, but it is not the same last name as hers.
Right, but it is my name.
Yes, but not her name.
ARGH!

Eventually, he broke down and said that "maybe" they could do without it since we had our marriage papers...

Final question, did you bring the form showing how much you have paid of your city taxes? This is when I really started sweating it because, as I said in the last blog, we haven't been paying on it since we had so many other bills. Mostly the payments to The Master of Darkness (that would be my ex again). At least, I was sweating it until Ai found out that the Ward Office supplied us with all of the paperwork we requested EXCEPT for that one.

Now, we have to get it ASAP and mail it to the immigration office. I was told that I need to get my stamp Before October 1st, because I may only be here 2 months past the current visa or I have to leave.

So, scorecard for those keeping track at home:
I messed up and screwed myself over.
Government screwed me.
Government office screwed me.
Other government office screwed me.
Original government office screwed me again.

I can't wait until I get to go back to a government office Friday to get the document I did get the first time and then mail it to immigration. I have a feeling it will go very smoothly!

 Comments (Total Comments: 18)  

MattJ1991's Avatar
Yeesh that's a mess...best of luck
callmewoof's Avatar
So sorry, hoping the best for you! If I've been keeping up on my blogs, at least your satan payments are done/almost done, right?
machtdh's Avatar
I can't wait to get married!!
elessar123's Avatar
I thought the Satan paymented ended in either August or September.

Also, there's no law there that keeps families together in Japan? Seems a little weird they would deport someone with a kid there.
Tsukinikawatte's Avatar
WHHAAA the insanity. If you have to go back to the states temporarily make sure to grab the dog from Satan. She can't follow you there.... Or can she?


dv8mad's Avatar
elessar123 - We made the last payment to her last month, so we are finally done with that, but giving her a total of 2 million yen over 2 years isn't a hole we can dig ourselves out of overnight.
Interestingly enough, if you add up absolutely every single bit of debt we have right now, it comes up to just barely under 2 million yen.

As for the laws on something like that, I honestly have no idea. But, we are doing our best no to test out any laws that may exist. I'm hoping that when I get the correct paperwork on Friday, that's it's just general like, TOTAL TAXES 250,000 TOTAL REMAINING 223,500 or something like that. I know that we have paid a tiny bit, but not much at all. Certainly nothing within the past 8 months or so, so if it's detailed month by month, then I will be hoping very much for some pro family law to save me. LOL

No one should worry too much though. The backup plan (since she and Ryu can't afford to come to the US anyway) is that she will keep up with the buying/selling/bidding for the site while I do whatever is necessary to make the money to get back and reapply from the beginning again.
Tsukinikawatte's Avatar
That would suck though, to start over. So, we'd like to avoid that... by we I mean you, but I mean we as in support of you.
Panda's Avatar
What a mess. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
dastly75's Avatar
Dude reading all this shit you're getting infuriates me. Keep persevering! Japanese policy is bureaucratic as hell but I know you'll make it sooner or later and have a less stressful future to enjoy.
I'm not sure it's a Japan thing for logic to take a back seat to bureaucracy.

In their defense, perhaps there's a history of men getting married multiple times without actually getting a divorce?
it sounds like these people were never hit or yelled at as kids. have you tried a good strong tone with them if they start giving you that maybe shit again?
Lord Humongous's Avatar
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Arkanos's Avatar
It's too bad the situation isn't reversed and you were trying to stay here in the US. If that was the case you could sneak in, get free health care, avoid paying taxes, get a free college education, and never have to worry about getting kicked out. :P

In all seriousness though, just keep jumping through whatever hoops they need you to, I'm sure it will all end well for you.
Link927's Avatar
Good luck with the whole mess, even though I was in Japan for less than two months, I ran into many bureaucracy issues. Sometimes it worked out for us, and other times it really was a pain.
darkcecil32's Avatar
Oh man, that really sucks. I hope that everything works out well, especially since you have a (young?) child over there. I've really wanted to visit Japan for a long time, I've heard they're very weary of gai-jin and situations like yours are the types of things that makes me a bit wary of going over there. Anyways, best of luck to you.
Bonesinski's Avatar
You are so right about the logic of the Japanese is most cases. It is always an interesting experience when you have to work with the local government offices. My wife and I always had odd experiences that made no logical sense.
Ganbatte! I hope things work out well for you.
MiNuN's Avatar
G a n b a t t e !
G a n b a t t e !
phantasyx's Avatar
The Japanese are soo racist they just don't want you there thats why you were getting such a hard time.

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