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Nightmare Customer Service Experience with Microsoft after Xbox Live Account Hacking

By dmaul1114 02-01-2012 10:52 AM
Updated by dmaul1114 02-01-2012 03:59 PM
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Edit: My gamertag is dmaul1114

On October 25th, 2011 I received an automated e-mail from Xbox that was in Russian. I knew something had to be wrong, so I used Google Translate to read the e-mail. It was an e-mail confirming my account had been successfully migrated to Russia. I was also missing 1200 points that had been used to purchase “Rift” from the Russian marketplace. So while I didn’t have any FIFA related content or achievements added to my account, I knew I’d fallen victim to this recent round of account thefts that had been in the news.

I called Microsoft’s Customer Support immediately upon receiving the e-mail to report the unauthorized access, and they took down my information and started the investigation. I was informed it could take up to three weeks to get the account back. That deadline came and went, and I received an e-mail with a free 1-month Xbox Live code in late November, with a form message noting there was a delay with the investigation. By late December I had still heard nothing, and then I got another form e-mail with a free 1-month Xbox Live code.

I called the phone support again and they were unable to provide me with any information, explaining that they have no direct line of communications with the investigations team. As such, I decided to file a report with the Better Business Bureau (BBB) as I had been without a paid service over two months. Additionally, with the account locked while under investigation, I really couldn’t even play offline on the profile, as I was told I’d lose any achievements or game saves generated offline when recovering the migrated account back at the end of the investigation. The BBB complaint was filed on December 28, 2011 and processed by the BBB on January 3, 2012.

I again heard nothing from Microsoft for a few weeks, but finally got a phone call from an Exceptions Analyst from Microsoft’s corporate office in response to the BBB complaint on January 23, 2012. He got more info from me and promised to follow up on the case and make sure it got taken care of. He was very helpful and did indeed get things moving. On Jan. 26 I got an e-mail in Russian saying my 12-month Xbox Live subscription had been canceled, and on Jan. 27 I got another e-mail in Russian confirming my account had been migrated to the US. Later in the day on the on the 27th, I got e-mails confirming the investigation was completed, my 1200 points had been refunded, and instructions on how to change my Windows Live ID password and recover the account to my console.

So I thought my 3+ month ordeal was over. But then I noticed another e-mail from Xbox--this one stating that my profile was permanently banned for a code of conduct violation. At this point I was majorly annoyed that they’d give me my account back, and leave a ban on it for something the hacker must have done while in control of my account. So I called up phone support and they told me it was an issue for the Xbox Live Policy Enforcement Team (XBLPET), and to post in the Suspensions forum area in the Xbox.com Support Forums as that’s the only way to reach them.

So I followed their advice and posted in that forum. A few hours later I received a form e-mail response telling me that if I felt the violation happened while the account was compromised that I needed to call phone support and file another Unauthorized Access Claim to get it looked at, and that the ban would remain in place unless that claim could be substantiated.

At this point I was very frustrated from getting the run around, but I did call and file the complaint. I also decided to call the Exceptions Analyst on Monday when he was back in the office and see if he could find out what was going on. I placed that call, and he informed me that the notes showed that the XBLPET had ruled the violation happened when I was in control of the account. I asked what the violation was for, and he stated it said it was for attempting to steal other accounts. At this point I’m livid, and explained to him that I have never done anything of the sort, and it’s obvious that the hacker gained control of my account before I was aware of it and reported it, and must have been using the stolen account to try to steal other accounts as a way to cover his tracks.

As these hackings are apparently happening from the account thieves obtaining users’ Windows Live IDs and passwords somehow, there would be no suspicious activity on the account until they migrated it to Russia, as that’s the first action that would have generated a physical record since they had obtained my log-in information somehow.

The Exceptions Analyst says he believed me, and that XBLPET sometimes make mistakes and are currently very overworked with all these hackings going on. So he forwards all this info on to them and asks them to look at the case again. He calls me back a day later and tells me the XBLPET team got back to him and said the ban is staying in place. They didn’t give him any details and says he can’t get any more info as they keep the XBLPET team isolated even from other units in the Xbox division. He apologizes profusely but says there’s nothing more he can do and the ban will stand.

So now, after being locked out of my account for over 3 months while it was migrated to Russia and being investigated, I’m now permanently banned from ever getting the account back online. And thus I lose the licenses for all my purchased Xbox Live Arcade titles, all my DLC, and can’t access any of my game saves unless I just want to play offline on this banned Gamertag. Thus I cannot import my Mass Effect 1/2 characters into Mass Effect 3 if I want to play the online modes with my existing characters.

All because the XBLPET can’t put two-and-two together and realize that attempted theft of other accounts from my account, which was CONFIRMED as stolen by a Russian hacker and returned to me (along with my points refunded) by the investigations team, were committed by said hacker before I was aware that my account had been compromised and called Customer Support to start the investigation.

I’m a 30 something, college professor who lives in the US, not a Russian hacker stealing Xbox Live accounts! This is all info they have and can easily verify. Yet they refuse to unban my account simply because there’s no official record of suspicious activity before I called them after the account was migrated. The hacker had my log-in info, so they have no way of knowing the exact point when the account was taken over, and thus they are just blame me for anything that happened prior to my starting the investigation. And it gets permanently banned due to their zero tolerance policy.

What kind of customer service is it to not give the customer the benefit of the doubt in such a simple case as this? Are account thieves reporting their own accounts stolen, going so far as to file Better Business Bureau complaints to try to get them back? Am I omnipresent so that I can be hacking accounts from Russia while living and working in the US? It’s just baffling that Microsoft can treat a loyal customer this way. The 360 was the only console I’ve owned most of this generation, and I’ve spent a great deal of money on the hardware (two consoles since the first got the RROD outside of the 3-year warranty), X-box live memberships, X-box live points and games. I’ve never had any suspensions or other disciplinary action on my account prior to this debacle.

Yet when I’m victimized by a hacker, I get the run around on getting the account back and then get accused of being a hacker myself when all logic and reason clearly illustrates that the violations which got my account banned were committed by whoever stole my account.

At this point, I don’t even want any compensation from Microsoft. I don’t even want my account back. After being treated so poorly, I’ll never spend another dime of my money on a Microsoft product. In fact I’ve already traded in the 360 and switched to PS3. I’m simply sharing my story in the hopes it will get some publicity and put some much deserved negative PR on Microsoft in hopes that they at least change their practices so other gamers aren’t treated as poorly as I have been.

 Comments (Total Comments: 69)  

Thongsy,

I posted this to the other blog in response to your post there, but will put it here too:

As I said above, I'll take it back (they're also sending me Gears 3 and Skrim which I'd sent out on Goozex).

But the PS3 will be my main console going forward, with the Xbox just used for those 2 games and the rare exclusive like Halo 4.

It is absurd that it took these lengths of me posting this and blasting it out to all the blog sites and you CAGs doing the same to get it resolved.

But at the same time, my banning wasn't related to the hacking issue. It was a fluke, unrleated case with my RROD console somehow getting fixed and used by a hacker. So it was a weird case. And the manager said the enforcement team had learned from the experience and have updated their forensic investigation routine to make sure the same mistakes (like missing the last log in date) aren't made in future cases.

As I understand it, the 3 month wait on getting the hacked/migrated account back was due to the international migration. There's apparently some international law issues with the software licenses that have to be ironed out before migrating the account back to the US, and that's why those cases are taking so long. Where as the ones that didn't get migrated out of the US are only taking a few days to resolve now that they've hired more people to work on investigations.
Kaiser499's Avatar
Glad you got your situation resolved. Hopefully Micro$oft smartens up about this hacking crap.
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My console was not banned. Only my dmaul1114 Xbox Live gamer account.

I could play online etc. on my other temp gamer tag fine.
Oh, I see. I thought you'd received a console ban. My bad!
EdRyder's Avatar
Great to hear this issue was resolved. I think you deserve a new console for pain and suffering

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As I understand it, the 3 month wait on getting the hacked/migrated account back was due to the international migration.
Xbox support told me they've disabled international migration since back in December. Hopefully this is going to put an end to the insanity
Yep, they have disabled internation migration, so no one should get hit with that.

And they're turning around the regular, non-migrated fraud cases in 3-4 days now, so they have pretty much taken care of that issue.
Damn I feel bad for you but thanks for sharing your story. I never ever heard about people staling Microsoft points before this.
What you said about stolen accounts being used is probably right on the money. Some friends got hit by the hack recently, but they all happened in the same short timespan -- i.e. they were clearly using friend lists to pick the next easy targets.

Glad to hear the situation was resolved, though. My friends have been struggling w/ the issue as well and have not had as much luck getting MS to listen.
drkshr's Avatar
What great and amazing lengths you had to go to for this to be solved. You are very lucky that you have the gift of writing a very well thought out and cohesive timeline of events. If you were a less educated individual your problem most likely would not have been fixed as you would have just banged your head on the keyboard and given up. Congrats to you for going forward and with every resource available to all of us.
Freemason's Avatar
Glad it was resolved, same thing happened to my friends account T0V0P7. Took him 2 months plus, lost $70 in fraude charges on his account. He finally got his account back, but no refund on anything, and the same shit service as described above.


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