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I Don’t Think I Want to Live in California Anymore...
By the_grimace 03-03-2013 09:24 PM
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So about a month ago, I had mentioned I was taking a 11 day business trip out to San Francisco. I really haven’t had an opportunity to blog about it since I’ve been back, so I’ll mesh my thoughts on the trip with the topic of this blog.
To foreword this, I always had this certain immense fascination with California for a long time growing up. Something about the state always just really interested me, and I always felt like I would absolutely love to live there. Maybe it was the large amount of game development in the state. Maybe it was the warm and mild weather. Maybe it was because California was a state thriving on technology. In short, California seemed to hit all of my interests, I figured I would love living there. Not so much anymore... I’ve only been to California twice, once to Los Angeles and just recently to San Francisco, all my trips being business related. The high and glorious expectations I had turned out to be way more wrong than I could have ever imagined. When I traveled to Los Angeles, I was immediately turned off by the smog. Seriously, even coming in to the airport on the plane, the skies went from crystal clear to a giant mass of gray nasty smoke as we breached the city boundaries. My phone was constantly telling me the weather was “sunny”, but looking up at the sky only showed a giant gray screen of smog with not an ounce of sunlight poking through. Furthermore, I felt the city to be pretty rundown, and there were many homeless people loitering around the city. Housing looked cramped, and man was it expensive, something like $1200 for small studio apartments... I went expecting to see the glorious and exciting city from my imagination, only to be presented with the mundane and beaten down reality that the city was. My recent trip to San Francisco was not much different. After hearing many good things from friends and family that have visited San Francisco, I was hoping for the best. Google map searches of the city showed a city that looked WAY too crowded for me, but whatever, I was being paid to go out here, and no better time than now to check the city out for myself. San Francisco was probably worse than Los Angeles! I was in the Market Street area, and good lord, it was just way too urban for me. Nature and green foliage was nonexistent, and the entire city was just this concrete jungle from coast to coast. There were tons of homeless people, and even more questionable people in between (druggies for example) I had about a 15 minute walk to work each morning, and there was not one day I didn’t encounter at least 5-10 crazy people on the way... Besides the crazy busyness of the city though, I would say one of the biggest things that turned me off about it was just how dirty and beaten down the city looked. Some might call it eclectic, but to me, it was just a mess of mismatched buildings and apartments. Houses, businesses, and buildings were cramped right next to each other, with not as much as an inch in between, and not one building would be the same color. Next to high scale apartment buildings were run down little apartments that were literally falling apart and homeless people sleeping outside. I was terribly upset about the terrible amount of litter and trash in the city as well. It was everywhere. Last but not least, mystery “droppings” on sidewalks led to daily games of “Is is human or dog?” I came up with an interesting way to describe how I felt about the city. Do you know how some video games might have a plot where humans have sapped the Earth of all it’s natural resources, and Earth went nearly extinct and now civilization is trying to begin all over again in a broken world? San Francisco was that city for me. A city that looked abused and run down like no where else I have ever been. A city littered with homeless people, trash, and mismatched buildings. A city where the earth’s natural resources have been mis-used and depleted. I even equate it another way, saying the city reminded me of a post apocalyptic city, being repopulated by the remaining people. Yes, the buildings seemed that broken down to me. It was really depressing. So two trips to California, and at this point I feel like I never want to live there. All the high expectations I had turned out to be very wrong. Plus, cost of living was stupidly high, taxes are terrible, and things were much more busy and cramped than I could ever handle. Maybe it’s just me, I’m a suburban guy. Grew up in the suburbs, went to school in a suburban town, and currently living in yet another suburban town. I like nature, I like a homely neighborhood feel, and I like having some privacy and space in my home. California just doesn’t seem to have that. A funny joke I heard recently, “7 out of 8 Americans are already in California”, doesn’t seem far from the truth after seeing how busy and cramped everything was with my own two eyes. On one hand, I feel some closure about the whole thing. For years I thought I would love to live there, but was just never sure. After being in two major cities, I really doubt that California is the place for me. It does upset me a bit considering how much opportunity for game development the state offers, San Francisco and Los Angeles being the #1 and #2 biggest cities for game development, with several other CA cities following up on the list. However, for the time being, I feel good that I had the opportunity to visit the state and clear my mind on where I truly want to end up with my career and with my life. I feel better knowing I’m probably not making a mistake choosing to pursue my life in another state, even if it may be more difficult. I look forward to having a good life, career, and family, and I was to be somewhere I truly love calling home. So needless to say, I didn’t enjoy my trip to San Francisco. I really enjoyed being at work with my company team, but the hours in between work hours were pretty dreadful. Regardless, I am very glad I had the opportunity to go. So now I’ll turn it over to you guys? Do I have the wrong impression of the state? How do you CAGs that live in California like the state you call home? I don’t know, just doesn’t seem like the right place for me. Thanks for reading, and looking forward to hearing your thoughts and comments! |
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- 03-03-2013, 09:35 PM
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I've lived in California my entire life. Yeah, after coming back from a trip to New Zealand/Australia, seeing the smog above Los Angeles was actually a complete shock to me. I don't live anywhere near the major cities, and I think that's where the beauty of it lies for me. I live in a suburban area, which is ideal. The mountains aren't dead, foliage still grows; the beaches, however, are horrendous as of late.
In my opinion, California is pretty nice, but only in the suburbs. The weather is never at an extreme like in other states. That's just talking about the environment though. Taxes, traffic, and population-wise, I'd imagine it differs from person to person. There's always something to do in Cali, never a moment to really stop. |
- 03-03-2013, 09:56 PM
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San Diego has it's fair share of studios too. I live here and have been to both SF and LA and have to say it's quite different. You get a portion of the hustle and bustle without the problems of overcrowding or everything crammed together. There are cities quite close to the east with more of a country vibe (don't know if that's what your looking for but it's there). Also since we border Mexico there is the huge influence of Mexican Culture here and also the second highest population of Chaldeans in the country although I'm not the biggest fan of the second one. Lots of military presence too if you like that sort of thing. Basically if you ever had the chance I would say give SD a shot before you write off the whole state.
I'm pretty sure Sony and Rockstar both have studios here. Also High Moon Studios is here. Mad Catz too if that helps. Midway and THQ were here too but we all know how that went. Probably more i don't know of too. |
- 03-03-2013, 10:13 PM
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Avoid anything north of San Diego county and I think you can have a blast in California.
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- 03-03-2013, 11:17 PM
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The irony of your impression is that it's suburbs with their car-centric sprawl and ensuing giant carbon footprints that are sucking all the life force out of nature. But I do agree with your impression of both LA and SF.
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- 03-04-2013, 12:01 AM
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I've lived in four states-- FL, PA, NJ, and now CA. California is definitely the most expensive of the bunch, and not just in rent (which is high in the Bay Area to begin with), but also for basic costs like groceries and sales tax. I'm also not a fan of all the homeless people in San Francisco, which has some nice things about it, but NYC-- despite its own problems-- is still the best in my opinion. As for all the natural resources stuff, to be fair, a lot of cities are like that, but it does seem like the ones out here tend to favor concrete more than in the Northeast and South Florida. Actually, Seattle is very nice, and I hear Portland is too, so maybe it's just California? Sonoma County is one of the loveliest places I've been to so far here, especially if you like green spaces (and wine; not a requirement, but it definitely helps). There's also a metric shit-ton of state and national parks both in CA and neighboring states. Minuses: expensive, lack of real NYC-style bagels, some parts of SF look worse than Elizabeth, NJ. Pluses: Wine Country, great organic strawberries, generally friendly people. |
- 03-04-2013, 01:24 AM
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Your sample size of California is only two metropolitan cities...I think you need to give the state another shot. There are many quiet suburban cities just east and south of SF that are very pleasant and somewhat affordable to find housing. Plus, they rarely have buildings that are more than 5 stories because of city building ordinances.
I have a couple of friends who work for Ubisoft. They live in the South Bay and just take pub trans to SF each day. If you go further south, you'll run into the most beautiful area of California IMO - Monterey/Santa Cruz. I lived in Monterey for 5 years and absolutely loved it. The weather is mild for the whole year - rarely does it get below 50 or above 75. You're also a stone's throw away from beaches (including ~40 minutes to Santa Cruz), world renowned golf courses and snobby rich people in Carmel =) |
- 03-04-2013, 02:21 AM
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Love it here in California, but I can't stand LA. Just hate trying to find parking, and driving around there makes me crazy. San Diego is the better city in my opinion.
Where I live, it is nice enough no real issues outside of how expensive it can be for a rental around here. If I were to be transferred to one of the Texas departments I work for I'm sure I'd probably not be a CAG but a full-price gamer. |
- 03-04-2013, 02:24 AM
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It's just like any other place. Big cities everywhere are generally the same, a concrete jungle. You can go to ATL, Chicago, New York, even here in Anchorage; it's all the same. A sprawling mess of a city. California is like every other state and it's what you make of it yourself.
The beauty of California is you're not too far away from doing many things. You can go to the beach in the Summer or skiing in the Winter or numerous other things. Just like if you live in Hawaii, it's a island paradise but if you live there you're not enjoying the paradise but grinding day-to-day to survive. |
- 03-04-2013, 08:49 AM
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California. It's a bankrupt, socialist/liberal, Godless hellhole. The smog, cost of living, and bums of LA are just icing on the cake.Not saying the rest of the country isn't going there, but you can try to stave off integration as long as possible. |
- 03-04-2013, 11:48 AM
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Hah wow burritoman. Someone had a bad experience in California. I'm not sure if you actually believe that or if you are going off Rush Limbaugh radio.
Anyway, living in California all my life, San Francisco and Los Angeles are two of the cities where I personally wouldn't live. It's way too crowded for me. I live in Northern California and I think if you stay in the suburbs of Cali then you'd be fine. The only complaint I would have is the high taxes, but I make twice as much (as a registered nurse) as I would in other states. |
- 03-04-2013, 12:24 PM
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I think you'd probably run into that in a lot of downtown big cities around the US. I've lived in the Suburbs of Salt Lake for years (usually only 5-10 mins from downtown) and I don't really enjoy just "going downtown" unless I have something to do. It's not overly crowded, but there are definitely weird people and it's never very clean except for our new mall.
I think the only appeal to downtown, city living is if you want to live it up at night in the city. Otherwise, looking for a suburb outside of a city (any city) is usually the way to go if you can afford it. |
- 03-04-2013, 12:59 PM
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There are plenty of valid reasons to hate on California. But you picked the two worst cities to visit if you are not a fan of big cities and the baggage that comes with them. I generally can't stand LA and SF either, though I do visit occasionally to visit friends and check out things that can only thrive in such an environment (unique stores, a variety of museums, strange social activities, etc). I live in Santa Barbara and I absolutely love it here. It's a beautiful beach town that hasn't gotten too big for its britches yet. If that's not your style, we have the redwood forests and Yosemite up north. Or the Mojave desert to the east. Wine country in central CA. There's a little of everything here within a day's drive and that is one of the things that makes it a pretty great state IMHO. That said, yeah the cost of living sucks donkey nuts. And our government and it's debt and the fact that we get the shit taxed out of us every way possible is not so great. Every place has positives and negatives you need to weigh. Job. Allergies. People. Cost of living. Weather. Safety. Culture. And a million other things that may or may not be important to you. I wish you luck finding the place that best works for you.
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- 03-04-2013, 01:29 PM
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I have lived in California for most of my life, different parts of it. Lived a bit in Santa Cruz, a bit in San Jose, a bit in Bakersfield and travel a lot all throughout it every now and then. I personally love the idea of living in SF but when I'm visiting the city, I realize, every time, that I don't. I don't have issues with how it looks (it has plenty of green but obviously on the side that you weren't at lol), I just always think I can become a big city guy but I really don't want to. So I think everyone is usually let down by their expectations. I live in the Santa Cruz county and while I don't want to say it's the best, I can't think of many places we're I'd rather be. I want to someday move to San Jose because that place isn't too far inland, is big but not too big, easy to navigate, plenty of space for growth and just the best of both worlds. I think it sucks that those two cities are the highlights in game development so you would have to move near one but the great part is you don't have to move INTO one, just near it. Find a comfortable city or town and just be a short drive/train away and your life would be so much better. I'm sure there's tons of CAGs that wouldn't mind showing you better places to visit. The weather is always great in NorCal, worse but tolerable in SoCal but always nice when not bogged down like LA usually is.
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- 03-04-2013, 03:50 PM
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All of the trips to big cities like nyc or la have just made me appreciate living in the burbs of Chicago more. Just the right fit of homeliness, cleanliness, things to do, culture, money/taxes. I can't see myself ever staying too far from the Midwest. Why don't you like Illinois?
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- 03-04-2013, 05:36 PM
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If you want to go to a part of California that is actually pleasant, your best bet is San Diego. Much less urban, and there are a lot of great attractions near by. (the wild animal preserve, Sea World, etc...) There are also the Sequoia and Redwood National Forests. Those are definitely worth a look. Drive up the coast a bit and you can see some other very picturesque locales.
But I'm right with you on the whole urban environment thing. I've always vastly preferred the suburban scene. Much cleaner and less crowded. I've never understood why anyone would want to live in the inner city. (no matter what city that happens to be) |
- 03-04-2013, 11:09 PM
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You seem to have a major problem with homeless people.
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- 03-04-2013, 11:09 PM
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People like Burritoman make me happy I don't live in either the bible belt or fly over states. San Francisco is amazing if you actually know where to go and hang out and eat, etc, and avoid the touristy market street.
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California. It's a bankrupt, socialist/liberal, Godless hellhole. The smog, cost of living, and bums of LA are just icing on the cake.
