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Does your TA have an accent?

By The Linguist 02-04-2009 10:39 PM
Updated by The Linguist 02-04-2009 11:58 PM
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On a recent CAGcast Cheapy was talking about difficulties understanding instructors who were not native speakers of English. I'm sure any of you who attend(ed) universities with graduate programs in math, engineering, the sciences, etc. are familiar with this issue. Even though most schools require that their international TAs and professors pass some kind of test of English proficiency, many of them can still be hard to understand. Anyway I wanted to share the results of a study of this problem. (If you want the citation for this study, just pm me.)

This was a controlled study in which the same lecture was delivered by two TAs: one white and one Asian. Different groups of undergraduate students heard the lectures and afterward graded the lecturers on their accents and took a test of how well they understood the material in the lecture.

The results: the Asian TA was graded as having a foreign accent and the students who heard that lecture scored much lower on the comprehension test. So, this was a strong confirmation of what you all know: a teacher with a foreign accent makes it harder to understand the class material.

Now the kicker: Both groups of students actually heard the exact same thing. The video was manipulated so that they thought they were listening to either a white or Asian lecturer but the audio was the same in both cases. And, the voice on the audio track was that of a native speaker of English (from ing Ohio, no less!).

Discuss amongst yourselves.

 Comments (Total Comments: 12)  

fugazi_chichimon's Avatar
All I have to say is lolz. I've heard many of my classmates say that they couldn't understand their TAs, when in reality these kids don't want to work hard for their grades. Lecture is an important part of any course, but I don't think a majority of students realize or want to accept that you have to study outside of class as well.

edit: It'd be great if you could PM me the link.
zenprime's Avatar
Awesome. I love studies like this.


These kinds of studies are funny, but we already know people are assholes. Why not have a study where the Asian TA has a thick accent, speaks softly, and kinda mumbles? Seems like that would actually be useful for whoever hires TAs.
mykevermin's Avatar
Don't talk shit about Ohio.

And, since your first sentence's subject is singular (barring the parenthetical phrase hesitantly adding Wombat), should you use the verb "was"?

Just sayin.
The Linguist's Avatar
Myke: my point was that Ohio (at least central OH where the person was from) is linguistically about as unremarkable as it gets. And I edited the first sentence. Thanks.
Thongsy's Avatar
A couple of years ago I had a Chinese math professor who I couldn't understand. Last semester I had a German history professor who I understood fully, and I wasn't even paying attention half the time.

I have no idea what to think, where was this study done at? As to get an idea of what kind of students partook in it.
eliter1's Avatar
I took a math class where the teacher was from India. I could not understand a word she was saying, after speaking with some people it became clear a lot of us could not understand her. I had 3 TA's but I could only attend review for one of them. The TA was Asian and again I had no ing idea what he was saying. He would write one thing and say a different thing, he told us to not listen to him because his English was terrible and to just look at what he was writing instead. I passed that class by attending MSI (Modified Supplemental Instruction) since that was the only person who could speak good english. I am very bad at understanding people with an accent even though english is my second language, spanish is my first. I can hardly understand what my mom is saying when she tries to speak to me in spanish. I think it's just a matter of who is listening and how well you understand the subject the proffessor is trying to talk about. I am pretty sure if I was better at math or if the lecture was about video games or something else i would have understood more of what was being said.
Koggit's Avatar
I definitely have a ton of foreign profs and TAs, more foreign than native, and certainly prefer native speakers.

The only really good non-native speaker I had was a German guy.
nitrozoom's Avatar
Interesting study but it belittles the issue IMO
The Linguist's Avatar
@Thongsy: the study was conducted at Auburn, I think - some big university in the South, though I think you'd get similar results almost anywhere in the country.

@nitrozoom: not sure why you think it belittles the issue. It's not saying that some non-native speakers aren't hard to understand or that schools shouldn't do more to improve the English-language skills of their teachers. It's showing that communication is a 2-way street and that our stereotypes affect perceptions. That seems to me to be useful information that a school with a problem like this might want to take into consideration as they work to improve the situation.
mykevermin's Avatar
'salright, Linguist. A Frenchman once told me that he thought everybody from Cincinnati had a "CNN Accent," so it's not like your claim is off the mark.

Except, of course, for that whole "please" thing we tend to do that other people don't understand.
nitrozoom's Avatar
@el lingo - because the real issue is students being negatively impacted by teachers that are difficult to understand. Anything that can be used to redirect the focus from the teachers' shortfalling to the students' perceptions is counterproductive IMO

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