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For those People who decry Game Piracy Read here:
By E*Master 03-17-2009 09:04 AM
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I was encouraged, almost inspired to write this post thanks to Renaissance 2K's post about game piracy. He made an excellent point about how Piracy is not about being rebellious but rather about getting "it" for free. I agree with this but I will also not be a hypocrite and say that it's not just wrong but those who perform game piracy should be <Insert derogative comments here>.
Fact of the matter is Those who decry Game piracy are nothing but a bunch of Hypocrites. Oh why? Because I will bet my last dollar that person doesn't have Hundreds of Megabytes (or EVEN Giga or Terra Bytes) of data that was acquired illegally. I am not just talking games but Movies, TV shows, Music Videos, MP3s (or whatever audio format you fancy), images, Porn (oh god each and everyone of them positively has this), ebooks, applications. I don't give a shit what these ppl say who decry Piracy (here or anywhere else) but EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM has performed an act of Piracy in their lives. Which makes them nothing but a pirate themselves. Any person Denying this is not only a hypocrite but a iiar. If you grew up during the early stages of the internet you are definitely guilty. "Oh no I haven't this is all lies you spread *grumble mumble*" Really? Remember napster or any other snazzy P2P app.... everyone here has used one at some point in their lives. Guess what? You got stains of Pirate Booty (Metaphorically speaking! Get ur mind out of the gutter kids!) on your hands. However, putting all that aside, I too am not too much of a fan of game piracy. Especially when doing it to "the little Guy" and it is for that reason DRM was invented. Which I don't have a problem with because I would rather 1.) Not care or 2.) find a way to strip it from my purchased content. Especially that of iTunes. Anyhow getting way off point here. Fact of the matter is everyone here has pirated at one point or another in their lives. Even if u copied a VHS tape, as obsolete as that may be now... that is still piracy. So if you have and you decry game piracy just know that you are no  ing better than those that do. So don't bitch about it. No matter how little or how much you have Pirated, it's still stealing and it's wrong. So don't point ur finger of judgement upon those that do unless you do that to yourself in the mirror first..... hypocrites. |
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The Linguist
- 03-17-2009, 09:20 AM
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Yeah and speaking of hypocrisy, how 'bout those people who point to SUV drivers and complain about how they're contributing to global warning. I mean these people drive cars and use electricity too. Man,
ing hypocrites!I'm with you; stealing a pack of gum is just as big a crime as stealing a car - they're both crimes and the law certainly doesn't distinguish. |
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nitrozoom
- 03-17-2009, 10:42 AM
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ouch
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IGC
- 03-17-2009, 11:02 AM
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@the linguist... you are not 100% correct, it is not the same thing to steal a car or to steal a pack of gum. They are both stealing and a crime, but even the law has different rules for each... I don't know if it applies everywhere, but in most places they have set a value, and you are charged either a misdemeanor or a felony depending if you fall above or below such value... So they are not technically the same thing, not even as defined by law.
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blackjaw
- 03-17-2009, 11:18 AM
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@IGC....you failed to see the sarcasm in The Linguist's post.
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nitrozoom
- 03-17-2009, 11:19 AM
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he forgot to include <sarcasm> tags, you realize
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Treehouse Gamer
- 03-17-2009, 11:28 AM
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I don't really think that Renaissance's original post was, as most see it, a man casting a stone against piracy. The whole point was to shed light that what is usually thought of as a victimless crime indeed has consequences.
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Anexanhume
- 03-17-2009, 12:02 PM
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While I did steal music via napster years ago, I haven't pirated anything in several years, and have no illegally obtained data on my computer, unless you consider N64 and further back ROMs as stolen. (How can you steal something which is no longer for sale?) The wrong in stealing is denying the creator(s) of that product compensation for their work.
Besides, saying someone else is guilty is no justification for one's own wrong actions. |
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evanft
- 03-17-2009, 12:07 PM
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Wow, my IQ dropped.
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eliter1
- 03-17-2009, 12:51 PM
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I think most people that use that use the internet today have pirated something but I think people feel differently about the things being pirated. Some people think it's ok to download pirated music but they go crazy when they know people pirate games for example. Other people think stealing because you have starving children at home is ok but hate people that download movies online. The fact of the matter is that stealing or pirating is illegal and wrong but people have different points of view about what is ok to pirate or steal and what is not.
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E*Master
- 03-17-2009, 01:05 PM
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@Anexanhume: Let me quote you "The wrong in stealing is denying the creator(s) of that product compensation for their work". Are you saying the people who made that N64 game no longer deserve compensation because the game is no longer being sold? Sure it's being sold. It's not a relic. Check your flea markets n shit. Will the Maker be compensated? Likely not. But you're still stealing morally.
LOL sure u "used to" download your music.... riiiiiiiight ;-) I am by all means no saint and I would be a liar if I said I don't participate in piracy. All I am saying is I will not be a hypocrite and decry piracy because I have/do participate in it just like everyone else here. |
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iceveiled
- 03-17-2009, 01:09 PM
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This is a post to justify why you steal? I hope it makes you feel better about committing theft.
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Akira119
- 03-17-2009, 01:54 PM
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What really funny about piracy is that people always say, "the creators are not getting any money". This is true, but I buy 95% of my 360 games from ebay for fractions of the price in-store. To the developers/publishers, used game sales and piracy are one and the same. Game companies need to figure out a way to reward consumers who buy brand new. Until then, I'll just buy my games used a couple of weeks after they come out for half price.
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E*Master
- 03-17-2009, 03:38 PM
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@ iceveiled: I never mentioned that I justified my, or anyone else's stealing of anything. Or in this case digital Media. What the point of my post was (guess I have to dumb it down for you in case you didn't read it all the way through) is that people who decry game piracy are hypocrites because those people commit enough piracy in other forms of digital media.
Again, don't tell me you never committed a theft of digital media in your life ever. Please... Akira119: you have an excellent point that I can tell, can be debated for years. In some aspect I too see used games as piracy because the developer never made a cent off that resale. But Morally it doesn't feel like piracy because you dished out your cash to a legitimate business. I remember there used to be a day where you bought your games when they first came out and the stores had a pre-order promotion or first day sales promotion. Regrettably, at least in Canada, that stopped almost 10 years ago. |
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Anexanhume
- 03-17-2009, 03:49 PM
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""Are you saying the people who made that N64 game no longer deserve compensation because the game is no longer being sold? Sure it's being sold. It's not a relic. Check your flea markets n shit. Will the Maker be compensated? Likely not. But you're still stealing morally. "
No, they absolutely deserve compensation. The problem is, the publisher of that media has decided not to sell it anymore. I couldn't compensate them if I wanted to. In stealing, you're either depriving someone of ownership of an item, or you're taking a product without compensating the store, producer of the product, etc. Neither of these is valid because a digital copy deprives no one, and the product isn't for sale in stores anyway. "LOL sure u "used to" download your music.... riiiiiiiight ;-)" I don't even download music that I pay for. I hate not having the physical CD and jewel case. Part of this is a distrust for rights management and me wanting to retain the physical copy for security. The used game problem is being somewhat rectified by DLC. I didn't buy Fable 2 retail, but I did pay for the knothole island DLC. |
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wune
- 03-17-2009, 03:57 PM
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dubbfoolio
- 03-17-2009, 08:43 PM
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I pay for what I can afford. And always pay for the things I truly endear. I'm not perfect but I've cut back substantially on internet piracy. And I've stopped pirating games altogether, CAG was a big part of this, allowing me to obtain a lot more for my dollar. Legal, commercial supported streaming such as Hulu has been a big plus too.
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hcamacho
- 04-04-2009, 05:22 PM
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Stop the madness. This is why we need a Resource Based Economy....http://www.thevenusproject.com/intro...whatis_tvp.htm
...although they sell stuff there, to pay for the project.....IRONY..... |
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