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Old 10-08-2012, 04:35 PM   #5012
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Originally Posted by PottyPops View Post
I have not used the words 'I beleive' because there was no cause to use them. I talked about the use of numbers in ancient Hebrew- not a belief but a fact. When I did speak of Heaven I had already stated the things I spoke about were what I liked and that others may take another view. I expressly stated others could do as they liked. It is already determined that those things were my belief and not something of irrefutable proof. I opined, I did not dictate. What you're asking is essentially telling me to put 'I believe" before every single sentence, but there's no need to do that when it is reasonably concluded those are beliefs by simply reading the whole post. And I cannot say anyone is going to Heaven or Hell. I see how my chosen words reflect that, but I do not mean to say such. In my world view God is the only judge for that matter. I do not have the to power to save anyone, so therefore I do not have the power to condemn anyone. I believe I am going to Heaven. I believe everyone has the chance to go too. I do not believe I have any say what-so-ever as to whether another person is going or not. My words did reflect that notion and I will be more careful choosing terminology in the future.

Now for assuming others' beliefs. What choice do I have. No one here has stated a belief other than they believe science disproves any notion of a god. To what conclusion could I arrive at other than those posts were atheistic in nature? Does anyone here who states science disproves the notion of a god believe themselves to be something other than atheist? And to be extra clear, I'm not bashing atheism. I think it is quite bold and admirable to believe there is no higher power, I just do not happen agree.
Of course others can do as they like, this is America and we will - with or without your consent. You have no ability to dictate jack shit to me, so your first paragraph is a pretty empty statement.

Also if you really care so much about our views you could choose not to assume, and just ask the question. I'll do it for you:
Q: Am I an atheist?
A: In a strict material rationalist sense, no.

You can dance around it all you like but your disdain for other religions and ways of thought leak through. I guess what irked me from the start was that you said that before Jesus you were into meth and Wicca. The way I see it, if you didn't look down on Wicca you wouldn't have lumped it in with meth.
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