Great show again guys! Always a highlight to burn through the CAGcast.

-On the Madden Moments. I'll still pick the game up, but I agree completely with Wombat on how shitty the moments are. They have to have the right rosters. And not just because it is a 'next-gen' game. Does anyone remember QB Club for the SNES and Genesis (and then onto the Saturn and N64)? Because those games had "Scenarios", which were the exact same thing as the Madden Moments, except they had accurate rosters. All the way back in the mid 90s. So I'm calling bullshit on the Moments not having accurate rosters.

-On the flip side, I wholeheartedly disagree with Wombat on LBP's level design potential. First off, they are packaging the game with a buttload of levels (or at least they are saying they will...). So that concern is out of the window. But then, the quality of levels. Of course, there will be plenty of terrible levels. But there are going to be a select few which are fantastic. Countless PC games have benefited from user made content, and even some games out there that are hugely popular are based from user made content.

I do think there has to be a really effective mechanism out there to make sure that the good levels float to the top, and make themselves obviously available to people. On the PC, there were always great fan sites which did a good job of reviewing lots and lots of maps, to make sure you knew which were good. And then you'd start to figure out who were your favorite designers in the community, and then you could just download their stuff automatically, knowing it would be good.

Of course, if they just dump all the levels on top of you, with no way of discerning between them, that will be a definite issue. I think the biggest problem they will have is having an interface that gamers can access in-game. On the PC, it is easy to browse websites, and pick maps to download. On the PS3...not so much. So I'm not sure how they are going to address that challenge.

-On Wombat being...'negative'. I don't know if that is really a bad thing. Nobody really wants to listen to two guys just jerk each other off for an hour or so. People listen for real, genuine discussions about topics, and in order to do that, there has to be a little conflict.

I don't know if anyone happens to listen to Bay Area sports talk, but there is a very popular host called Gary Radnich who's on 9-12, and sometimes people call in and ask "Why are you opinionated on [pick a topic]?" And he answers "Because it's my job to be opinionated. For 3 hours a day, I got to find something to talk about. As soon as the show is over, I'm over it, and go back to just enjoying sports. But during work time, I have to generate topics for discussion". I think the same point applies to what Cheapy and Wombat are doing. Wombat mentioned to not take this statements personally. He's just out there, trying to talk about something.