Quote: Originally Posted by nasum dohdough: Why does there need to be a different cultural standard for anyone? We're Americans, no matter what skin tone we have, no matter what religion we are, no matter what are sexual desires are (well except for beastiality and pedophelia) and no matter what our political natures are. There is an implemented set of rules/laws by which OUR society operates. Toe the line and you'll do fine (speaking in terms of incarceration here), decide to go against the rules/laws and you'll deal with BS your whole life.

Are all people treated equally under the law?

Quote: Why does a portion of black culture embrace and celebrate violence? Hell if I know. It's pretty ridiculous and obviously rather self defeating in the long run. Why do rural white kids get hooked on meth? Same answer, I have no clue why someone would willingly engage in stupid behavior.

So in other words, you have no idea why, yet you have strong ignorant opinions about it while boasting your logical conclusions.

Quote: As far as a small portion of the population making the whole population look bad. Let me put it this way, do you think Redneck Nascar fans are idiots? If most redneck Nascar fans are southern white guys, does that Nascar population make most of the southern white guy population look bad? Yeah, it kinda does doesn't it? Stereotypes exist, there's simply no getting around that fact.

It makes a difference when you're comparing dumb hicks to gangbanging pimps. Way to false equivalence.

Quote: Pretty simple to address the when/where of crime. More people live in densely populated areas, ergo the police presence is higher because of the demand of a certain cop/citizen ration. If you have more cops around, they're more likely to find people doing stupid stuff and arrest them.

Lemme get this straight: you're saying that "white" crime happens in less populated areas so they don't get caught or punished as much. Yet, in densely populated areas, black people are just happen to commit more "crimes" than white people so they're stopped and punished more.

You know, there's actually several studies on racial profiling stating that black people are stopped more and white people tend to be the ones caught with more drugs when stopped. Once again, this is the exact opposite of fairness under the law.

Quote: Why do black people have longer sentences? Well I suppose that's because all judges are racist? Or is it maybe because of repeat offenses, extenuating circumstances? It's easy to play the race card, but it also dodges several other possibilities.

Dodges what? I said they have harsher punishments and longer sentences for the same crimes. The only "extenuating circumstance" is because they're black. This isn't some conjecture. No one "plays the race card." They ing live it.

Quote: Accept that the system is racist? It seems as though you (personally) already have. Instead of pointing fingers how about we (people of the world) just take responsibility for our actions, avoid circumstances where we know we can get in trouble (we're all guilty of this one to one extent or another) to the best of our abilities, conciously avoid getting into circumstances where we know crime beyond shoplifting or the occasional bar fight might happen (i.e. "hey, we're gonna shoot this dude, wanna hop along?" Nah, I've got a headache today, but thanks anyway!) and if you do get caught doing something stupid, realize that it's because you did something stupid, not because you belong to category X. Now if you come back and say that it's difficult to avoid trouble within the culture, then you've identified the problem. Why is it difficult to avoid trouble? Seems pretty straightforward to me. If one decides to "accept" the notion that they're a second class citizen, it's pretty hard to shake that notion.

In other words: poor black people are poor and black because they're poor and black; the only way out of it is if they stop thinking they're poor and black. Add a sprinkling of hard work and bootstraps and viola!!! They're not going to be treated poor and black!!! HOLY SHIT!! YOU JUST SOLVED RACISM!!!ONEONE1111!!!