Quote: Originally Posted by smthng I think you're getting two things mixed up. It sounds like you're talking about Pinball Hall of Fame. Pinball Arcade is the followup by Farsight Studios and was released yesterday. It's a pinball simulator and includes a couple of each of the above I think. It's not bad, but the camera view can be a bit weird at times and it's a bit hard to follow when things get frantic. Zen Pinball 2 is not a sim... they do stuff on their tables that can't be done with real world physics. It's still a good setup, it just adds a bunch of "virtual" stuff. I like them both, although I've found that Pinball Arcade seems a bit easier than the Zen series. The Zen (and Marvel) series are merging in Zen Pinball 2 and are all done by Zen Studios. I'm just posting this up so people know they are two separate products and that you shouldn't expect to see the Zen stuff if you snag Pinball Arcade. Zen is separate and has not yet been released (and I don't think they've listed a release date).

No, I'm not mixed up. I was referring to the two PSP Pinball sims, the Williams and Gottleib collections, that both came out a while ago on UMD. I know Pinball Arcade is different, but it is the same philosophy as the previous two collections; detailed, well emulated versions of classic pinball tables like Gorgar, Firepower, Black Knight, Funhouse, etc.

I know Pinball Arcade for PS3/Vita is different, but the same philosophy and style as the two older collections.

I also know Zen Pinball is totally arcade (non-sim) oriented pinball, with impossible physics.

I was just commenting about the vertical mode in the two PSP titles, and saying it would be nice to see that mode in the Vita pinball games. So far, I haven't found the vertical mode in Pinball Arcade (Vita), only three similar view modes (facing the table, no vertical flip), which is a bit disappointing. But overall I'm happy with this new release and looking forward to future tables for Pinball Arcade, just as I am looking forward to Zen 2 (which isn't out yet).