I swear the mods on OCN take shit way to seriously. Why delete threads that are trying to help people in your community and aren't harming anyone?

Anyways, I cant speak for the Catleap, but the Shimian stand isn't half bad. It's right about on par with the stock stand my old Gateway came with. It wobbles a bit, but a lot of people on OCN made them out to be way worse than they actually are.

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