K I spoiler'd the Dance Central and Rock Band sales info. I have no idea where all these phantom spaces keep coming from, they're impossible to delete out.

To be honest, I'd like to see this thread closed and someone start and maintain a new one, non-wikified. Not that this one isn't fine, but it's easier when one person has full control of it, and can take suggestions from the rest of the group.

I know the 2 guys that I'd nominate, but they both already maintain other threads on this site and I'm sure they're not dying to take another one under their wing.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 K I spoiler'd the Dance Central and Rock Band sales info. I have no idea where all these phantom spaces keep coming from, they're impossible to delete out. To be honest, I'd like to see this thread closed and someone start and maintain a new one, non-wikified. Not that this one isn't fine, but it's easier when one person has full control of it, and can take suggestions from the rest of the group. I know the 2 guys that I'd nominate, but they both already maintain other threads on this site and I'm sure they're not dying to take another one under their wing.

I don't think the wiki formula isn't working, but Tuesday's are just a little hectic to keep up, and unless you're careful & check the OP history just before you hit "post", then a lot of helpful work by well-intentioned folks goes down the toilet.

I totally agree on adding "spoiler" tags to the music sale, as well as price drops, since the thread's focus is all about limited-time sales. What made limelight022's edit a little strange was spoiler'ing all the sections, which then forced the user to wonder which sections were most pertinent, so that was a little weird.

I don't claim to have editorial control, since I'm just like the rest of everyone. I merely want the OP to be "complete" on sales, and give first-timers a welcome & easy-to-understand place to find sales to increase CAG's readership. Apologies if I overstepped or went a little crazy.

I don't think that the wiki part is bad. In fact, I like that part. What I don't like is how the thread has become a megaconglomerate for everything on Xbox Live. People come into this thread to discuss anything and everything related to Xbox Live when the thread is supposed to be about Xbox Live Deals of the Week. This thread is an unwieldy mess. People just camp out in this thread. I guess that's fine for those with the dedication but for other people, we shouldn't have to go through pages of info just to find pertinent info.

With the way the thread is, it should just be called Xbox Live.

Sheesh, Reddjoey hasn't been involved with the OP since July--if the second post including Rewards info is any indicator, maybe a simple link to the Xbox Live Rewards thread would be more efficient?--that makes me a little sad.

Originally Posted by Cornelius I don't think the wiki formula isn't working, but Tuesday's are just a little hectic to keep up, and unless you're careful & check the OP history just before you hit "post", then a lot of helpful work by well-intentioned folks goes down the toilet. I totally agree on adding "spoiler" tags to the music sale, as well as price drops, since the thread's focus is all about limited-time sales. What made limelight022's edit a little strange was spoiler'ing all the sections, which then forced the user to wonder which sections were most pertinent, so that was a little weird. I don't claim to have editorial control, since I'm just like the rest of everyone. I merely want the OP to be "complete" on sales, and give first-timers a welcome & easy-to-understand place to find sales to increase CAG's readership. Apologies if I overstepped or went a little crazy.

Ya my only concern is that there's too much in the OP, and it scares away the first-timers and casual checkers. I don't think many of us regulars even use the OP. When you come to this thread everyday, you pretty much catch every sale going on.

And you're find, I appreciate you and Bobbytastic keeping the OP up to date. And part of the blame for the jumbled OP actually rests with MS. There are literally 7 or 8 sales going on right now (DotW, Activision Sale, Family Deal, Kinect Central Deal, Rock Band Sale, Dance Central Sale, Scratch n Match Deals, and Chain Reaction). It's obviously a good thing that we're having so many concurrent sales, but putting them in a good, straight order isn't exactly easy.

Originally Posted by dirtyvu I don't think that the wiki part is bad. In fact, I like that part. What I don't like is how the thread has become a megaconglomerate for everything on Xbox Live. People come into this thread to discuss anything and everything related to Xbox Live when the thread is supposed to be about Xbox Live Deals of the Week. This thread is an unwieldy mess. People just camp out in this thread. I guess that's fine for those with the dedication but for other people, we shouldn't have to go through pages of info just to find pertinent info. With the way the thread is, it should just be called Xbox Live.

You're not wrong, but please point me to one thread on the main deals page that actually stays on topic of the mentioned deal and that's it? I don't think CAG would be nearly as popular (and therefore Cheapy wouldn't be bringing in nearly as much money) if it wasn't for the community here.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 You're not wrong, but please point me to one thread on the main deals page that actually stays on topic of the mentioned deal and that's it?

That's true. But if you had a separate thread, that would limit any potential tangents. Because a separate thread would be more specific and have a smaller number of posts anyway. So even if a thread went off tangent by 20 posts, you'd still only have a couple of pages of posts.

But in a mega thread like this Xbox Live thread, that's hundreds of pages of posts. Fine for those who live in this thread. Not for the rest of us.

People in this thread are talking about the Midway compilation. Shouldn't that be in a Midway compilation thread? There's a perfectly fine one in the Xbox forum. Is the compilation an XBL sale?

I think I even saw a post about what size hard drive to buy.

And I see a lot of posts for the Xbox Live Rewards. We do have a rewards thread as well.

The way I think this thread should be set up is all things on Xbox Live that are on sale this week. Just because this week is heavy on sales doesn't mean we shouldn't include them. If it's an Xbox Live deal that's on for a temporary time, regardless of whether it's officially a "deal of the week" or "activision sale of the week" or whatever, it should be listed in the OP.

Has anyone played Matt Hazard? It's been over two years and no sale, is it worth $15?

Originally Posted by Strider Turbulence Has anyone played Matt Hazard? It's been over two years and no sale, is it worth $15?

I did and only have a few achievements left to do...it was a fun game (more fun as I've expected for 5 bucks) I would say it's worth $10 but 15 seems a bit pricey hum

EDIT: Ignore my comment I may have confused the game with eat lead starring matt hazard LOL

Originally Posted by Strider Turbulence Has anyone played Matt Hazard? It's been over two years and no sale, is it worth $15?

Played it. Got bored after about 15 minutes. Probably played another 2 hours. Regretted the wasted time. I could have been napping or, even better, watching youtube videos of pretty ladies napping. That's what I'm into now.

It suffers from a lot of the same problems as Comic Jumper, but without any of the redeeming qualities. It's dull, doesn't do anything that other, similar games do, and like the retail Matt Hazard games is sometimes made worse by calling attention to its own poor gameplay choices as jokes.

edit: Raptr confirms that I played for 2 hours. Apparently that was enough to get me the achievement for completing the game in single player mode. I don't know why I did that. It's one of only three achievements so it may not be the game for you if points are your thing.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 Ya my only concern is that there's too much in the OP, and it scares away the first-timers and casual checkers. I don't think many of us regulars even use the OP. When you come to this thread everyday, you pretty much catch every sale going on. And you're find, I appreciate you and Bobbytastic keeping the OP up to date. And part of the blame for the jumbled OP actually rests with MS. There are literally 7 or 8 sales going on right now (DotW, Activision Sale, Family Deal, Kinect Central Deal, Rock Band Sale, Dance Central Sale, Scratch n Match Deals, and Chain Reaction). It's obviously a good thing that we're having so many concurrent sales, but putting them in a good, straight order isn't exactly easy.

This is the thing that bugs me about the OP. It's far too busy and it seems like everything is given its own section when it doesn't really need to be. Maybe it's just my style of listing that sort of stuff that is getting in the way, but I'd just like to see a simple list of all the XBLA and Games on Demand games on sale, DLC, and other stuff with maybe just the Sales & Specials+ App deals being the only thing that needs to be separate. Since there's no one single post cataloging the new set of deals that have been added, I try to check the OP for the full scoop before being overwhelmed with colored text and a million sections. It probably doesn't help that Microsoft doesn't seem to do a good job of labeling things as sales or permanent price drops since I see everybody discussing that frequently when something new pops up.

It's probably a result of this being a Wiki thread, so everything is shoved into the one post since nobody can use the rest of the OP. Unless Joey's going to be coming back to man the thread full time, it may be time for somebody to step up and take the reigns to provide some stability and a singular vision about what the OP should be. There's no sense trying to keep this thread alive when it needs to be spread out over the first few posts so that all of that info can breathe a bit.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki This is the thing that bugs me about the OP. It's far too busy and it seems like everything is given its own section when it doesn't really need to be. Maybe it's just my style of listing that sort of stuff that is getting in the way, but I'd just like to see a simple list of all the XBLA and Games on Demand games on sale, DLC, and other stuff with maybe just the Sales & Specials+ App deals being the only thing that needs to be separate. Since there's no one single post cataloging the new set of deals that have been added, I try to check the OP for the full scoop before being overwhelmed with colored text and a million sections. It probably doesn't help that Microsoft doesn't seem to do a good job of labeling things as sales or permanent price drops since I see everybody discussing that frequently when something new pops up. It's probably a result of this being a Wiki thread, so everything is shoved into the one post since nobody can use the rest of the OP. Unless Joey's going to be coming back to man the thread full time, it may be time for somebody to step up and take the reigns to provide some stability and a singular vision about what the OP should be. There's no sense trying to keep this thread alive when it needs to be spread out over the first few posts so that all of that info can breathe a bit.

+1 to everything you said.

Originally Posted by Strider Turbulence Has anyone played Matt Hazard? It's been over two years and no sale, is it worth $15?

Ridiculous, campy tone. Duke Nukem feel to it. Worth a rental but not a purchase at $15.

Originally Posted by yamayama I think the only things that need spoiler tags are the music game stuff.

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.

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For any Australians out there, Transformers: WFC is 640MSP on the Australian marketplace.

Originally Posted by silverrat23 For any Australians out there, Transformers: WFC is 640MSP on the Australian marketplace.

Thanks for the heads up!

EDIT: Can confirm that its 640MSP, just purchased it. Thanks again.

Originally Posted by silverrat23 For any Australians out there, Transformers: WFC is 640MSP on the Australian marketplace.

its good that we get a game on demand this cheap, even cheaper than america. usually we would be paying a little bit more

Has anyone been brave enough to download the Australian WFC offer, for use on another profile/region (does it work?)?

Aw man, I just made my first accidental purchase on Xbox Live. I was checking out the Toy Soldiers Invasion DLC 'cause I was planning to buy it next week. I absentmindedly clicked through to purchase while distracted by the presidential debate. I feel like such an idiot right now. I guess at the least I'm only out 200 points.

Originally Posted by xbox_man its good that we get a game on demand this cheap, even cheaper than america. usually we would be paying a little bit more

Yeah, Prototype is $20+ for us at the moment.

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Ok so here's a question that I'll probably get some heat for...

Are the MW2 DLC's worth it at all? Which one or both?

I hated MW3 and recently stumbled upon my old MW2 disc. 600 points a pop is horrible, sure, but the MW1 maps seem like they could be great on MW2. Considering that MW1 is hacked to smithereens these days, I'd love to play those maps again in MW2....

Anyone?